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Speaker 1: Busting with the Boys, outstanding citizen with us today, third

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Speaker 1: Brad Burberry right, yeah, he came up and how do

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Speaker 1: Right, Hey, the Salt of the Earth Cats And so

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Speaker 1: Their fan base is insane. Michigan. Michigan beat the Balls

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Speaker 1: You're gonna get roasted a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And I thing too when they showed Will

439
00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,119
Speaker 2: Smith sitting there, he was like smiling, having a good time.

440
00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:04,200
Speaker 1: Have you seen the whole clip?

441
00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,840
Speaker 2: And then he looks over, Yeah, how to go defend

442
00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:08,359
Speaker 2: her honor? Yeah?

443
00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought his reaction was perfect though, the way

444
00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,960
Speaker 3: Chris Rock handled it, He's like, wow, what a what

445
00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:15,119
Speaker 3: a fucking pro dude?

446
00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,200
Speaker 1: What a pro though, Oh, there's no question he start

447
00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,400
Speaker 1: saying documentary instead of Oscar, Like had a whole bunch

448
00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:22,679
Speaker 1: of stuff going on. But I think all of us

449
00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,960
Speaker 1: in here if he slapped me, We've talked about this.

450
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Speaker 1: You get slapped for what other man? You like to

451
00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,240
Speaker 1: think level of heads will prevail, But like, I mean,

452
00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,520
Speaker 1: do you getting poked in the chest in general, someone

453
00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,760
Speaker 1: doesn't like just goes right up to your chest toppokes you.

454
00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,720
Speaker 1: You kind of want to kill that person immediately, right,

455
00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,080
Speaker 1: So imagine getting open hands slapped.

456
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Speaker 2: Imagine if that just broke out in the huge fight.

457
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Speaker 1: I think Chris Rock would get his ass be he would,

458
00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:46,480
Speaker 1: you would absolutely get his ass.

459
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Speaker 3: Be well, yeah, he's probably gotten I mean, listen, he's

460
00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,320
Speaker 3: a he's a stand up comedian who has done a

461
00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:52,040
Speaker 3: million shows.

462
00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,639
Speaker 2: Right, that's probably happened to him and the stand up committy.

463
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Speaker 1: I don't think there a bunch of tough guys in there,

464
00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,200
Speaker 1: like too off the top of the head, Shob and Rogan,

465
00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,680
Speaker 1: the two d's that are probably gonna be mask other

466
00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,440
Speaker 1: than that, Like you don't think, I mean, Chris Rock's

467
00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,359
Speaker 1: tiny's five to seven, yeah, fifty four years old or whatever.

468
00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:10,480
Speaker 1: He is absolute legend, legend. But he starts swinging. It

469
00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:11,879
Speaker 1: would have made it, I mean, it would have been

470
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Speaker 1: outstanding TV. Would be talking for an hour longer.

471
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Speaker 3: Got it right when right when he landed the shot

472
00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:18,639
Speaker 3: and when he got back up to the mic, he

473
00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,760
Speaker 3: was like, this is the greatest night in television.

474
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is such a great job. Yeah, such a

475
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Speaker 1: great job.

476
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Speaker 2: It was well, he handled it perfectly.

477
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think it would have been better if

478
00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,880
Speaker 1: he just said keep my wife's name afterr fucking mouth

479
00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,680
Speaker 1: and then it just was that was it. But then

480
00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,880
Speaker 1: he just kept going, Yeah, it was a bad deal.

481
00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:37,119
Speaker 1: And then he goes up and does that two and

482
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Speaker 1: a half minute speech. Did you know were you watching

483
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Speaker 1: it live?

484
00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:40,600
Speaker 2: I didn't watch it live.

485
00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,840
Speaker 1: I wasn't either. Yeah. I see the Twitter and it's thriving,

486
00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:45,520
Speaker 1: it's going off on there, and you immediately go to

487
00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,080
Speaker 1: try to zoom in find it, shout out Japan. Japan

488
00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:49,040
Speaker 1: had the whole thing for us.

489
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

490
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Speaker 3: No, I don't know how how fast it was after

491
00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,920
Speaker 3: he slapped Chris Rock But how fast? What How quick

492
00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,280
Speaker 3: was the turnaround with him winning the award and going up.

493
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Speaker 1: And give him the speech. It was like twenty minutes, right,

494
00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,280
Speaker 1: that's crazy. Yeah, and so he's got to go up.

495
00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,439
Speaker 1: He's talking about being a protector and stuff like that.

496
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

497
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Speaker 1: And it was his first Oscar as well. God hey,

498
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,560
Speaker 1: and then he he just resigned from the Academy. He

499
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:13,840
Speaker 1: just came out the other day and said I'm going

500
00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,359
Speaker 1: to resign, which I don't know what that means. Is

501
00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,320
Speaker 1: that mean he's done acting or he's just no longer

502
00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,760
Speaker 1: affiliated with the PA or whatever they are. He can't

503
00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,359
Speaker 1: go to the oscars. I tell you he's got the information.

504
00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,359
Speaker 1: He just can't go to the award ships anymore. But

505
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:26,359
Speaker 1: he can still win stuff.

506
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:27,000
Speaker 2: He's still good.

507
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's will Smith that he's not going anywhere. If anything,

508
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 1: he probably just got another action movie work on that.

509
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,320
Speaker 1: That the hit movement. That would be a hell of

510
00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 1: a golfer. Yeah, hell of a golfer.

511
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Speaker 2: A quarterback.

512
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Speaker 1: So we go to sc How do we do it? SCE?

513
00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 1: We read shirted our first year.

514
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,440
Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, I read shirt the first year, which I

515
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 3: knew I was gonna do. So, you know how a

516
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 3: lot of quarterbacks go early cool, So I didn't do that.

517
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,720
Speaker 3: I just went in the summer because I knew.

518
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Speaker 2: Yeah, do it all.

519
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,359
Speaker 3: I played basketball, went to prom, did all the cool

520
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,639
Speaker 3: senior stuff to do. You know, as if if I

521
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,160
Speaker 3: wouldn't have done that and then sat for a year,

522
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 3: it's like what am.

523
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,680
Speaker 2: I doing now? Exactly? Yeah?

524
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 3: So yeah, red shirted, red shirted s S sat behind

525
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 3: Cody Kessler and then we're back. Competition started that next

526
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 3: year with Max Brown, it was another you know, five

527
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 3: star kid coming out. I had to sit for a

528
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Speaker 3: few years to wait a shot, wait for a shot,

529
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 3: and then uh yeah, and then he ended up winning

530
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 3: the competition, ended up playing for three games, I believe,

531
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Speaker 3: and then I started the fourth one. We lost that one,

532
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 3: so we started one and three and then we didn't

533
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 3: lose a game after that.

534
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Speaker 1: Well, it was going through your mind when he won

535
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,439
Speaker 1: the competition. He's obviously, you guys are going back and

536
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,719
Speaker 1: forth all campus when they tell you that, hey, you're

537
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 1: not gonna be the starter week one.

538
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 2: Basically what uh what coach said was just.

539
00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 3: We got to make the best decision for the team.

540
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,679
Speaker 3: And that was basically it, you know how it is.

541
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,920
Speaker 3: It was like, very we got to do what's best

542
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 3: for the team, and what's best for the team is

543
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,119
Speaker 3: that Max starts for us, really and so that was

544
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:17,119
Speaker 3: it was very, very simple, which I respected because I

545
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 3: was like, how am I going to argue with that?

546
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,199
Speaker 3: You know, the coach thinks that he's better than me

547
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 3: and that he gives us the best chance to win,

548
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 3: Like do I disagree? Yes, obviously, But that wasn't you know,

549
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,120
Speaker 3: that wasn't for me to say. I was just yeah,

550
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 3: I just kind of took it and uh handled it

551
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,120
Speaker 3: how I handled it, And that was really it.

552
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:39,919
Speaker 1: And so you weren't pissed off at all by that.

553
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 2: I will, so I'll go back a little bit.

554
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 3: He he did mention me getting a package for like

555
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 3: red zone stuff and some stuff for me to like

556
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 3: run the ball in the red zone on third and short,

557
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 3: third and fourth and short, and so that that kind

558
00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 3: of got me a little uh irritated. But I mean

559
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 3: everything that he said was spot on. I Mean, he

560
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 3: was like, he gives us the best best chance to win,

561
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 3: but at the same time, we envision you having like

562
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 3: a red zone package and a third and fourth and

563
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 3: one package. And so I was just like, yes, coach,

564
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 3: because I'm like a you know, nineteen eighteen, nineteen year old.

565
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 2: Uh, I was just like, all right, sounds good.

566
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 1: Yeah I was. I was much more mouthy than that,

567
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure. Yeah, my rush for freshman yar. They told

568
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 1: me I wasn't starting. I told the coach to go

569
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: fuck himself. Yeah, but hey, that's that's how it works sometimes,

570
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: you know. I definitely said that in my head. Yeah,

571
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 1: there you go. Yeah, sometimes I gotta let him know.

572
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, things are going your way.

573
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,120
Speaker 1: You gotta say fuck you on the way the deal

574
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: works sometimes. So the first three games go on, Yeah,

575
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 1: and then what happens this guy he gets hurt, right, No,

576
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: he just got benched, just shitty throwing an iron. T's

577
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 1: left and right.

578
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 2: So he just I mean, I'm still friends with es

579
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 2: this day.

580
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:55,959
Speaker 1: Here's a great guy. To shoot on him. Yeah, I'm

581
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: sure he's a great guy. He's awesome.

582
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 3: Yeah I had to say that, but no, he is,

583
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 3: he really is. But uh yeah, that was probably the

584
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 3: weirdest part, to be honest, because we're we're boys my

585
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 3: freshman year because he was kind of showing me the

586
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 3: ropes and you know, when I was going out at SC,

587
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 3: we were kind of hanging out and you know, he

588
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 3: was taking me to parties, doing all that stuff, big

589
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 3: brother stuff, and then all of a sudden, we're in

590
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 3: a competition together and it was like, right, I guess

591
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 3: that's over, you know.

592
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 2: What I mean?

593
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, doing any.

594
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 2: Of that stuff anymore, partying together anymore, and nothing like that.

595
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 3: So so that was kind of the weird part because

596
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 3: I was, you know, we had the same friend group,

597
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 3: you know, boys with you know, everyone on the team

598
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 3: and then some of the kids outside of outside of

599
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 3: football as well.

600
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 2: But you know, it's just part of the deal.

601
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 3: And uh yeah, So I thought the way that he

602
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 3: handled it was insane though, just perfect, the way that

603
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 3: he was just he never even said anything in the

604
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 3: media about me or anything.

605
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,679
Speaker 2: He just you handled it like a bro supported you. Yeah.

606
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 1: That's awesome, dude. I love that when so you play

607
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: those games and then you go on, then you play

608
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 1: the next year. You guys win the PAC twelve championship, correct, Yes,

609
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: win the PAC twelve championship, and then we get to

610
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 1: the twenty eighteen draft and there's kind of the three

611
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 1: guys that everyone's talking about, Baker Mayfield, you and Josh Rosen. Yeah,

612
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 1: and now you and Baker. Well, Baker's pretty outspoken to

613
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: but you seem like a guy kind of like keep

614
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: to himself, don't stay a whole lot, don't read a

615
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 1: lot of stuff. What are you thinking when you see

616
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen staying some mountland as shit, going to UCLA?

617
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's just it's hard. It makes it

618
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 3: just it makes life harder.

619
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, why why does it make it harder on you.

620
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 2: What do you mean you said it makes life harder

621
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 2: for him? Oh, yes, that's why.

622
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 3: I don't, you know, I choose not to and like honestly,

623
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 3: like I would, I wouldn't.

624
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's just not in me to like

625
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 2: do stuff like that.

626
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 3: And now I do have you know, I have great

627
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 3: friends in a great circle, you know, great family that

628
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 3: you know, if there's some shit that I got to

629
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 3: get off my chest, like yeah, everyone has it, you

630
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 3: know what I mean, But going through the media and

631
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 3: making a scene about it, that's you know, it's just

632
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 3: harder to live life that way.

633
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. I mean, it makes

634
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 2: it a little bit more fun sometimes you can.

635
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 1: It's fun if you do well right, right, But if

636
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: you're the tenth overall pick getting traded the next year

637
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: and then it doesn't have happened the way it's happened

638
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: to him, yeah, it's not it's not a good deal.

639
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: And saying for Baker too, he seems like he's in

640
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:21,959
Speaker 1: a bit of a deal right now. So if all

641
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: three of those quarterbacks you're doing the best, Yeah, you're

642
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 1: doing well, argue Yeah, Oh, absolutely so, Baker. I mean

643
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 1: Baker's got to find himself a new home. How do

644
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: you what did you think about him when he came

645
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 1: out with like a see a later letter to the Browns,

646
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: even before they got Deshaun Watson.

647
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's a tough deal, right because.

648
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 3: You got you got, you know, people that you think

649
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 3: are loyal to you in terms of you know, whatever

650
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 3: it is in his circle at the Browns, coaches owner, GM,

651
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,959
Speaker 3: whatever it is for him saying that they're you know,

652
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 3: he's their guy, all this stuff, all the promises that

653
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 3: they make, and then all of a sudden, there's rumors

654
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 3: going out, not necessarily rumors, but you know, factual you know,

655
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,959
Speaker 3: information out that you know, they're looking to potentially get

656
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 3: to Sean Watson, and you know that might hit a

657
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 3: you know, that might hit to the core a little

658
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 3: bit for him. Yeah, And so that's again, it's not

659
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 3: not for me to really comment a ton on because

660
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 3: I don't you know, I don't I'm not gonna choose.

661
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on in Cleveland.

662
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's a it's a tough deal, man, Yeah,

663
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 3: because you know, it's hot throughout business.

664
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, not to get corny, but it is, yeah,

665
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: and you go third, you go a third overall to

666
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: the Jets. And was Adam Gase to coach then? Or

667
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 1: was the that was that the year after? No, he

668
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: was so Todd Bowles. Todd Bowles the coach.

669
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 3: Bulls was our head coach in twenty eighteen twenty nineteen season,

670
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 3: and then uh yeah, I love Todd and mccagnum was

671
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 3: our GM and they were the ones who drafted me,

672
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 3: took me in. And then that next year Bulls gets fired,

673
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 3: they bring in Adam Gase and mccagne is still the GM,

674
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 3: and then the next year they bring in Joe Douglas

675
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 3: GM with Adam Gase as the head coach, and.

676
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: So like, hey, you hear all that stuff. Adam Gaze

677
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 2: is the dude that does like the weird eye thing

678
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 2: right when he's getting what he's interviewed.

679
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, like was he just a crazy person or what

680
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: was the deal?

681
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 2: Adams? Great?

682
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: He's a good you loved him?

683
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 2: Great? Dude? Yeah, I love Adam.

684
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: Because I was watching I was watching some stuff and

685
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 1: I was watching the YouTube video of like the Patriots

686
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: game obviously a tough one out there, and then I

687
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: was watching stuff after they're like Adam Gase didn't do

688
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: anything to help you. They didn't do slide predictions, no,

689
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: like seven man pros, you know, checkdowns, none of that stuff.

690
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: What was going on during that game where he like

691
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: did he come and say anything to you or anything

692
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: like that?

693
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean we just watched the tape.

694
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 3: We you know, we talked about some stuff, and you know,

695
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 3: there were there were definitely some things where I could

696
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 3: have done a lot more with the protection that helped

697
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 3: me out. But it was just, for lack of a

698
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 3: better term, it was a cluster, uh, you know, out

699
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 3: on the field and trying to you know, because Bill

700
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 3: and that that whole tree Flores, Patricia all those guys.

701
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 3: If you can't figure out there's zero pressure and you

702
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 3: don't have an answer, we're going to keep bringing it.

703
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, when they bring seven up, you think they're bringing zero. Yeah,

704
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: so you think if you get the ball out real fast,

705
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden they drop and then only

706
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: rushing three or four.

707
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,959
Speaker 3: Well yeah, and then the next time they bring them

708
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 3: all the one guy that rushes is the guy that

709
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 3: you slide away from.

710
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.

711
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 3: So it's like there's just there's there's a lot of

712
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 3: there's good ways to handle it and there's bad ways

713
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 3: to handle it, and you know, we didn't.

714
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 2: We didn't handle it the best that you could have.

715
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: When you say that was stuffy you could have done

716
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: for protection? Yeah, was it like a development thing for

717
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: you when you didn't know protection very well?

718
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 2: I think it was just.

719
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 3: Kind of getting things lined up to start and then understanding, Okay,

720
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 3: I have five seconds on the play clock, like one

721
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 3: of those like damn, Like you know, I was trying

722
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 3: to figure stuff out with the receivers, like trying to

723
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,959
Speaker 3: give them signals, and I think it was more just

724
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 3: trying to We should have been more in and out

725
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 3: of the huddle, and we were that game.

726
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 2: I think that was really the biggest issue.

727
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 3: And then we started going on the ball and it

728
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 3: helped a little bit, but I mean, yeah, we didn't.

729
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: We didn't have great answers for it.

730
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: Is there anything you said to the guys like, hey,

731
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: we got to get to the line faster so I

732
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: can kind of dissect this.

733
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 2: Thing for sure? I mean that was that was one

734
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: of the first things I said.

735
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 3: And then we started going no huddle, which I did

736
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 3: quite a bit of with Adam, which you know, he

737
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 3: did a lot of with Peyton in Denver, and so

738
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 3: that was kind of that was kind of the go

739
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 3: to if we were kind of struggling or in a rut,

740
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 3: we would go to the no huddle stuff and try

741
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 3: to get on the ball and create some tempo for us.

742
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 3: But then again, like you start to go tempo and

743
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 3: you go three and out, it's the defense in a

744
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 3: shitty position, real bad position.

745
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: And another thing about tempo too, is when you go

746
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: tempo or a two minute type of situation, usually vanilla's

747
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: down the defense quite a bit because they have to

748
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: get ready to they have to get a line up.

749
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: I don't have time to make those.

750
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they were just bringing zero the whole time. Yeah,

751
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 3: that was really putting the pressure on you. Was Yeah,

752
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 3: that was when we started going no huddle. They were like,

753
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 3: all right, we'll just keep calling it. Yeah, and uh yeah,

754
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 3: it was just a tough day and.

755
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: You had the unanimous staying saying you got you were

756
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: seeing ghosts out there, right. Yeah, Well like, hey, that's

757
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: a tough meme.

758
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: Yeah it is.

759
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 3: No, it's a it's a tough thing to uh to handle,

760
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 3: you know, to this day.

761
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: But uh so when all that, when all that stuff cycling,

762
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: what do you what are you thinking about that?

763
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 3: It's it's interesting because like in our room, in a

764
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 3: quarterback room, we would we would see guys kind of

765
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 3: like in the pocket, you know, you have some quarterbacks

766
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 3: flinch a little bit.

767
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 2: We would say, oh, they're seeing ghost out there.

768
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 3: And so like I just like said that to my

769
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 3: coach at the time, you know, when we were down

770
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 3: forty to nothing. Yea, I was just pissed and I

771
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 3: didn't know what to say, to be honest, and it

772
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 3: just it happened.

773
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 2: And they they got it on live TV. So you

774
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 2: think that were you miked up? Oh you fucked up. Yeah,

775
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 2: that's on you.

776
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: I was hoping it'd be like a coach or something

777
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: like that, but you you sold yourself out.

778
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 3: No, it's for sure on me. I'll take that one

779
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 3: of the grave. I'll take that one to the grave.

780
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 3: Shout doubt.

781
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: Dude. That's gotta be a tough deal. But hey, listen,

782
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: everyone has bad games. It's tough, yeeah.

783
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 3: And listen, that was that was the worst game by

784
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 3: far that I've ever played in my life. And I

785
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 3: own up to it.

786
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to own up to it. But that

787
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: week after, like you play Sunday and then Monday you're

788
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: just like.

789
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 2: No, it was Monday night, so Tuesday morning, Tuesday morning.

790
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: Thank god. It's a short week though, Yeah, one less

791
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: way to move on you want to, Yeah, because that stuff, man,

792
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: when you when you have one of those games, like

793
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: I have my we talk about all the time of

794
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: week one. You kind of sit there and we played

795
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: at noon on Sunday, so I had the full week

796
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:40,959
Speaker 1: to think about I'm just a piece of shit, now,

797
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,719
Speaker 1: aren't I. I'm just I'm garbage out here.

798
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 2: And then pay attention to the media and oh hey listen,

799
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 2: start saying, ah, you know you suck, dude. Yeah, try

800
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 2: to go find a different profession.

801
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: It's it's bad too. Are just wild? Yeah? Should I

802
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: do something different?

803
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 2: Maybe they're right, Yeah, it's dude.

804
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: It's it's just crazy how people want to manipulate things

805
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: and if you go one bad game or something happens,

806
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: especially being at quarterback, I feel like it's part of

807
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: the deal. But at quarterback, you you live and die

808
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: with the franchise. Like if things are going well, it's like, wow,

809
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: this dude's just stud But look how great the defense is.

810
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: Look how good wide receivers are. But when things aren't good,

811
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: they're like, it's Sam, it's his fault, it's the quarterback's fault.

812
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: Does that seem fair to you to have all that

813
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: kind of pressure all the time for quarterbacks, not just

814
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: for you.

815
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 3: I think it is for sure. Why is that the money?

816
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 3: I mean the money that's you know, there's.

817
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: A thirty million dollar deal of twenty years what time

818
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: twenty million signing about us?

819
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 2: It was something like that.

820
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know exactly.

821
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: What it was.

822
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: Don't do that. I don't do that, dude.

823
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 3: But uh no, but it's again, like I'm half joking

824
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 3: about the money thing. You get ready all week and

825
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 3: you know there's a reason that the franchise lives and

826
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 3: dies with the quarterback. Yeah, because you're the one out there.

827
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 3: You got the ball in your hand every single play.

828
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 3: Like and it really has become more and more as

829
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 3: as the game keeps progressing, it's becoming more and more

830
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 3: of a quarterback league, and you know, it's it's great.

831
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 3: You know, I think it's great for the game. You know,

832
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 3: like when numbers are going up, you know, passing statistics

833
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 3: are going up, I think it's great.

834
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 2: TV.

835
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 3: You know, for people to watch and all that. But yeah,

836
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 3: it's kind of my take on it. But I really

837
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 3: do think it. You know, some of it's not warranted,

838
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 3: don't get me wrong. There's some stuff that people say

839
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 3: that you know, yeah, people put a keyboard coach and

840
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 3: they know exactly what's going on. They really have no idea.

841
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, so.

842
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 3: That that part's tough. And then you know there's sometimes

843
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 3: where like some guy gets it.

844
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: Like spot on.

845
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 3: You know, he's like the keyboard coast and he's like

846
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 3: he's like, dude, should have seen this, like to the left.

847
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 3: You should have slid it to the left and got

848
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 3: the back out. You're like, dang, dude, He's right, yeah.

849
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: I should have. I should have done that. That's so funny, dude.

850
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 3: But but no, it's it really happens. But uh yeah, man,

851
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 3: it's it's part of the deal.

852
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: Do you do a lot of mental work at all

853
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: during the off season anything like that.

854
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 3: I I started to a little bit a couple of

855
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 3: years ago, just working with someone who not even for football.

856
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 3: It was just to kind of clear my mind. And

857
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 3: then there's some you know, just some low key like

858
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 3: meditation that I would do, like just by myself, like

859
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 3: in the morning or at night before I go to bed,

860
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 3: and uh, just clear clear in my head.

861
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: But do you use an app? Do you like do

862
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: you like the call map or something with that headspace?

863
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 2: It's a little bit.

864
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just mess with a little bit if I

865
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 3: feel like I need it or if I feel like

866
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 3: i'm you know, why am I feeling a certain way?

867
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,479
Speaker 3: Like you know what I mean? So sometimes I feel

868
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 3: like I need it more more days than others. But

869
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 3: I think all that stuff's great though. Yeah, I think

870
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 3: there's I don't think you can talk enough about mental health,

871
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 3: and especially in the NFL.

872
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: Why do you think it's become such a thing lately

873
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: and in the last three four years, it's really the

874
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: mental health has people have talked about so much more

875
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: than they have in the past.

876
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

877
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 3: I just think there's so much more attention around things

878
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 3: that wouldn't otherwise get attention because of social media. You know,

879
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 3: you have such a you have such more of a

880
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 3: you're just kind of a fly on the wall in

881
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 3: anyone's life now, you know, if you follow whoever it

882
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 3: is like Dak Prescott, you know, talking about mental health

883
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 3: I think is great, you know, because you look on

884
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 3: Sundays and you look on the field and he's rushing

885
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 3: it and you're like, dude, this guy makes you know,

886
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 3: you know.

887
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 2: He's just killing life in general.

888
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 3: Like he's throwing touchdowns, he's playing for the Dallas Cowboys,

889
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 3: like you almost feel like he's invincible. And then all

890
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 3: of a sudden he comes out with you know, all

891
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 3: these mental struggles that he's been dealing with, and you know,

892
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 3: you don't realize it, but a lot of a lot

893
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 3: of people deal with the same stuff, you know, huge actors,

894
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 3: a bunch of different people.

895
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: Do you think that like the mental side of things

896
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,439
Speaker 1: has kind of been brought up more because, like you said,

897
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: so many people have more access and like a lot

898
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: of these guys and like the old school dudes played

899
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: ten twenty thirty years ago, like this is so soft now,

900
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: but they don't realize that it used to be a

901
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: newspaper clipping and that would be your news and what

902
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 1: happened in the game before, and you wouldn't see what

903
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 1: everybody else is saying. But now to click up a button,

904
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: you can learn what everybody's thinking about you always great point.

905
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great point. I think it is different.

906
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: I think everything's just different.

907
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think to now there are there are some

908
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 3: times where I'm like, okay that, you know, that's pretty soft.

909
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 3: You know some of the things that would happen in

910
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 3: terms of you know, guys, you know, missing practice for

911
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 3: one thing or the other.

912
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 2: You know, I think.

913
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 3: There's there's a lot of like the basketball talk I

914
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 3: think is very interesting, like when you hear when you

915
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 3: hear guys like Michael Jordan, Larry Bird criticizing guys for

916
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 3: like missing games during the middle of the season, and

917
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 3: you know, I get some of that, but now, you know,

918
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 3: you look at guys like Lebron who like to do that,

919
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 3: and Lebron's and what his nineteenth eighteenth, nineteenth years as

920
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 3: he's a freaking machine.

921
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 2: And so when that when a.

922
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 3: Guy like that sits out a game and gets a

923
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 3: bunch of flag for it, I'm like, dude, you can't.

924
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 3: You can't really give him ship for missing a game. Yeah,

925
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 3: you know, look at what he's with his career. Look

926
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 3: how he literally brought Cleveland up from nothing.

927
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 1: He brought Cleveland for nothing. And then also, like Michael Jordan,

928
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: you everybody watched the documentary The Last Dance, and he

929
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: would you know, have a couple of beers before a game,

930
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: eat a pizza, and.

931
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:15,439
Speaker 2: That's around of golf.

932
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll play around the golf and before playing around

933
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: a golf the day, imagine playing around a golf in

934
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: general in my life. Yeah, that's a hard ass sport.

935
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: Play eighteen holes. I mean, I can't do it. I know,

936
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: those a couple of guys in the back. I'm out there,

937
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: I play three holes and I sit in the cart

938
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: and run. I can't do this. A whistle pig and

939
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: I just move on. But gotta gotta plug it a

940
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: little bit too. Idn't even talk about the Chevy Silverado,

941
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: the most durable vehicle, But with with Michael Dude, it

942
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 1: just seemed like as things have advanced more in science

943
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: and how the body works and all the things you

944
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: can do for your body, now it's I think in basketball,

945
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: you play so many games for Lebron, especially at his

946
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: age too, to take a couple of games sit and

947
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: not play, I mean, I think that's that's the move. Now.

948
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: You would argue that people paid good money, they work

949
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 1: super hard to come and see Lebron, come and see Kobe,

950
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: come and see those dudes. Rest in peace, Kobe, but

951
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: come and see these guys. But at the same time, like,

952
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: the whole goal when you play a sport is to

953
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: win whatever it is at the end, whether it's a

954
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: super Bowl, the NBA Finals, all that stuff, and so

955
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: I think that's a smart move by him to be

956
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: able to do that.

957
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Did you see that thing with Eric Church going

958
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 2: to the UNC game?

959
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: Yes, dude, Oh my god, what do you think about that?

960
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: He just did in the squad?

961
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 2: He did? He did, But at the same time, was

962
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 2: it not for the boys move A huge er Church

963
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 2: fan too. He refunded the tickets though.

964
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 3: Of everyone that went, now, they were complaining about flights

965
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 3: and hotels and stuff like that, which I get. But

966
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 3: it's also one of it's his dream, you know, to

967
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 3: go see a UNC duke Final four.

968
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, no is what's his name's last game too, right,

969
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: coach k Yeah, But uh.

970
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm I'm kind of I don't know.

971
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 3: I don't know if I want to take a side,

972
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 3: but I lean towards Eric Church just because, like it

973
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 3: might be part of your dream to go see Eric

974
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 3: Church in concert, but it's literally his childhood dream to

975
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 3: go watch you and.

976
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 2: See duke playing the Final four.

977
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, so like where does where do you draw the

978
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 3: line of like whose fault is it?

979
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

980
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I mean just to play Devil's advocate. You

981
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: if you make a commitment to go do something and

982
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: there's nothing restricting you other than a want, Like he

983
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: signed up for it. You signed up to be a

984
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL, So regardless of how you feel

985
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: on Sunday, you're gonna go out there and play. I

986
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: signed up to be a left people, you know if

987
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,439
Speaker 1: I would if I just dipped. We're about to play

988
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: the Ravens one day and I'm like, hey, I love it,

989
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: but this team's playing this team. I really want to

990
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: go see it. Hey, it's my brother's birthday. It actually

991
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: doesn't happen, you know what I'm saying. A big Michigan

992
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: Ohio State game this weekend. Guys, I'm not gonna be

993
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: able to go. Third week in November, I just can't.

994
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: I can't play hopefully the bie weeks. Then it's like

995
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: this doesn't just doesn't work that way, you know. Yeah? Sure,

996
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: But I mean Eric Church, especially in the country music world,

997
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: he's a He's a legend like that. I love his music.

998
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: I think he has three or four albums that just

999
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: absolutely slay. But uh, I don't know if that's like

1000
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 1: the I mean, I don't think it's the best move

1001
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 1: to go and do that. Now he can do whatever

1002
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: he wants with his life. He's still going to go

1003
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 1: play that same venue probably a year later and sell

1004
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: it out and it's gonna be just fine. He's just

1005
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 1: gonna catch a little flak right now and move on. Yeah,

1006
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: it's tough, dude. Yeah, Erek Church, thing is wild.

1007
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think like the best way to

1008
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 3: handle stuff like that is in terms of maybe not

1009
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 3: the Will Smith, but like Eric Church and like other

1010
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 3: things that come out about people like do you think

1011
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 3: it's best to like post right away or do you

1012
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 3: think it's you just kind of eat it and then

1013
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 3: kind of let time.

1014
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: So if you if you're Eric Church, you like, well

1015
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: what I say. If I was Eric Church, I would

1016
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: get out in front of it like he did. And

1017
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: I think I'm a big get out in front of things. Guy.

1018
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: I like to if I fuck up something, if I

1019
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: do something wrong, I feel like I have to tell

1020
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: everybody around me because there's a part of me that

1021
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: has like this anxiety about if I know I did

1022
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: something wrong and everybody else here knows it did something wrong,

1023
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: there's like this barrier that like they're thinking it and

1024
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: I know it, so like and we're not talking about it.

1025
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: For me, I'm like, I just got to talk about

1026
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 1: it to make sure, like this is what I was thinking,

1027
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: this is what happened, and then that's that's just how

1028
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: I am. I think you can go a lot of

1029
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: ways about it, but yeah, I I mean there's a

1030
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: lot of stuff I see where I'm like, why wouldn't

1031
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: someone just say it something like this right away, Like

1032
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: if you know you're agents speaking for you in a

1033
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: contract negotiation. I like when I was doing my contract

1034
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: with John Robinson, I just went and spoke to him

1035
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: and they're like, hey, you shouldn't go do that, you

1036
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: shouldn't go do xcell. I'm like, yeah, I gotta get

1037
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: up there and just see him face to face and

1038
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: be like this is how I feel. Where what are

1039
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: you thinking? And then it takes the business out of it,

1040
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: and now you're having a personal conversation. Yeah, I mean,

1041
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: I I think so I'm still here, you know, so

1042
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: things are going all right, but what would you do

1043
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: would you let everybody else handle it? Yeah? You like

1044
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: that too? Yeah, I think that's definitely the move. Dude.

1045
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: Should we do that Tier talk now? Because I know

1046
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,240
Speaker 1: we have to do too. So we have two segments.

1047
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: There's a locker room talk and the tier talk, which

1048
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 1: is kind of redundant.

1049
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 3: Uh huh Okay, I've stadium's played in top five wide receivers,

1050
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 3: he's ever played with?

1051
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: God, that's tough. Well, I guess I'll give you that.

1052
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: Which what do you want to do?

1053
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: Definitely need some top five qbs to ever play it,

1054
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 2: you'll do. I'll do that.

1055
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 1: We'll do that, Okay, so I could do. I mean

1056
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: the way the way Bust Want the Boys work is

1057
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 1: we have tears so tier ones, the die hard cats

1058
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: on our podcast, the ones that get tattoos. You guys

1059
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: see the guy who got a tattoo on his stye,

1060
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: but he had to be with the with the horns

1061
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: and everything. I love to if we can put up

1062
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: his little name in that picture in this video.

1063
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 2: Does this guy have a lot of tats?

1064
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 1: It looked it was a bare leg. It looked like

1065
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: a bare leg. Outstanding tattoo. I hit a great tattoo artists.

1066
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 2: It's different if you're like tatted up, you know what

1067
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 2: I mean.

1068
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're done, you can kind of just do whatever.

1069
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever you want. Yeah, no one's going to see anything.

1070
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: Right, So when so he would be qualified as a

1071
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 1: Tier one guy. Tier twos like you follow, you comment,

1072
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: you subscribe, you rate five stars, those types of things,

1073
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: and then Tier three of the people that kind of

1074
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: sit in the background and then you see like a

1075
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 1: friend or something, then like hey, I heard you're doing

1076
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: pretty good. I had the podcast is doing all right?

1077
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: That type of thing. That's a Tier three guy, got it?

1078
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: So on these tier talk options, if you give me

1079
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: your top five quarterbacks. So I guess we're doing five

1080
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: tiers today, boys, in order in order of who you

1081
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,959
Speaker 1: want hit the hit the names. You can talk about

1082
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: him if you want. You don't have to talk, you

1083
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: can just hit us right away. But I need your

1084
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: tier one, two, three, four, and five of these names

1085
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: on the board.

1086
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: Yep, can the audience see who's on the board.

1087
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: We'll put it up from that's fine. Yeah, loss is

1088
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: a whiz back there.

1089
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 2: Yeah mm hmm.

1090
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: See a couple of names coming out right now. I'd

1091
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 1: go Carson one, Carson one, Okay, yeah, Carson Palmer. Why

1092
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 1: Carson Palmer, I think just I mean, he won a

1093
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: heisman at SC, won a national championship, and for a

1094
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: lot of people that don't know, he actually had a

1095
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: great career, had some injuries that he's dealt with, and

1096
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: you know, kind of handled it I think very perfect.

1097
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: I could have thrown some people under the bus too

1098
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 1: in terms of what happened in his career in terms

1099
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: of some some different things with some certain teams. But

1100
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 1: I think he handled it like a pro and I

1101
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: just respect him.

1102
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 3: A ton and he's a baller. Go Liner Yeah.

1103
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Line is just stunning man him. We said before

1104
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: him and Reggie Bush, that little duo they had it.

1105
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 2: The sikest thing to grow up and watch them playful

1106
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 2: about that name above, Matt Liner And what do you

1107
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 2: think about that one? No, I don't recognize it.

1108
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: No, no, no either.

1109
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 3: So I know this is this is tough because I

1110
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 3: know Mark and Matt Sanchez and Barkley.

1111
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I hope they're listening right here and we

1112
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 2: can haven't.

1113
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: I mean, Mark's much more handsome than Matt. Yeah that's

1114
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 1: debatable as well, you think, so it.

1115
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 3: Just depends, you know, if you're into you know, you know, yeah,

1116
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 3: exactly the whole thing that Mark has going on.

1117
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 2: Maddie.

1118
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 1: Big NFT guy, Matt the.

1119
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 2: Ft bitcoin guy. Shoot, uh, I'm gonna go Mark. I'm

1120
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 2: gonna go Mark.

1121
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: How does Matt feel about that he follows the pod?

1122
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 3: I know, I'm just gonna go Mark just because, I mean,

1123
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 3: i mean, Matt did some great things that s see.

1124
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 3: But you know, I think he would have won a

1125
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 3: Natty with that team that wasn't allowed to win a

1126
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 3: Natty is the sanctions shout up, Carol.

1127
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, Mark won the Rose Bowl and stuff. So

1128
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 2: Mark had a great career too. So Mark and then Matt,

1129
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 2: and then I'd go, Rodney Pete, you're not gonna put

1130
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 2: yourself in.

1131
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: That list myself, yourself, yourself, And I said myself, but yourself,

1132
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: sorry yourself?

1133
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: No you Uh no, I mean I'm not gonna do that.

1134
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: I don't even know who Rodney Pete is.

1135
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 2: Rodney Pete. Look at his highlights?

1136
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: When do you play.

1137
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 2: Sick Layer?

1138
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 3: I don't even know, but uh, I've seen some of

1139
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 3: his highlights just being around sc You're just.

1140
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: Being too humble on this podcast right now. No, dude,

1141
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: we put in the eighties. Yeah, get the fuck out

1142
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: of here, dude, pull a different game. Leather helmets and

1143
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: ship back then or whatever it is.

1144
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 2: He had a solid NFL career too.

1145
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1146
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 2: It's tough, dude, because you didn't grow up with it

1147
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: and you don't know.

1148
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: And doing these tiers too, are difficult because you've got

1149
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: to take away the NFL part because you just gotta

1150
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: talk about college. Because Mark Sanchez, you have the butt fumble, right,

1151
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: you can probably put the thing. I don't know, that's

1152
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: all I remember. That's all I know. Yeah, that thing

1153
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: lived in the not top ten forever, right, yeah, months years.

1154
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: I think it was retired. Look did you can't even

1155
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: see the film on this thing? It's so grainy? This

1156
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,240
Speaker 1: is like NFL Blitz two thousd.

1157
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 3: That's Rodney Pete quarterback, right, Yeah, okay, I thought so

1158
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 3: looks like him.

1159
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: There's a dime. I mean you should have threw him

1160
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: in stride, am I right? I mean it was a dime, dude,

1161
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 1: So you put you put Rodney some did they play

1162
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: in the eighties? No offense to Rodney. I'm sure I'm

1163
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: positive he doesn't watch this podcast. It doesn't matter what

1164
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 1: I say, but you you never know, you never know exactly,

1165
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: but you're gonna put him over you. You're the third

1166
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: overall pick in twenty eighteen, Rodney Pizza Baller.

1167
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 2: Look at him.

1168
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1169
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 3: We're also watching NFL highlights. If you go back to

1170
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 3: SC highlights, the way we're judging, I guess the tier.

1171
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: I want to go to USC so bad.

1172
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 2: They were telling me before you got here.

1173
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, USC, Texas or any SEC school besides Vanderbilt

1174
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:46,280
Speaker 1: or Kentucky.

1175
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 2: Does Michigan feel about that when you say stuff.

1176
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: Like that, Well, I well, I say, when I was

1177
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 1: in high school and then I had like an up

1178
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: and down deal with Michigan towards the end of my

1179
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: career there.

1180
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 2: In terms of one of the boosters, No, I never

1181
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 2: got paid.

1182
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: Never got paid. I'm sure you did a Hollywood stuf.

1183
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: There's so much. You never got money. You never got

1184
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: a free meal, you never went out to eat. And

1185
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 1: they're like, hey, go ahead, you're lying like a rug dude.

1186
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: It's okay, we're out. You can't get in trouble anymore.

1187
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 2: Actually, never got paid.

1188
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,760
Speaker 1: Do you know guys in your team that didn't? For sure,

1189
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: We'll go ahead. What you got oh I got use

1190
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: name social Security numbers. Let me hear the whole thing.

1191
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, social security numbers. I won't name any names, but

1192
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 3: I'll give social Security numbers.

1193
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: There you go. Yeah, that's uh. I mean there's lots

1194
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: of dudes that people get paid all the time. I

1195
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: mean sec you know what I'm talking about over their tea? Yeah, hey,

1196
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: it means more allegedly. Do you think Tennessee's paying dudes

1197
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: out there? Yeah? You know what I mean, dude, Yeah,

1198
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 1: that's right. The nil thing. We'll do locker room talking

1199
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: a little bit, because I said, they want us to

1200
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:48,919
Speaker 1: do this is all get cuts up too, So sound

1201
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: way better. We'll do locker room talking a second. So

1202
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: you get you get drafted to the Jets. What is

1203
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: that fan base like before you got traded.

1204
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 2: Before I got so so when I got drafted?

1205
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: Yeah when he got drafted a couple of years there. Yeah, great,

1206
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: they're they're their love like that. I mean, they'll let

1207
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 1: you know when you fuck up, there's no question. But

1208
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: they they seem like they're like on par with the Eagles.

1209
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1210
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 3: No, it's it's a very I mean they're devotional fans

1211
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 3: man like they're there would be. There would be games where,

1212
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 3: you know, where season's not going great, and they would

1213
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 3: The stadium was I mean pretty pretty solid. It was

1214
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 3: fun to play in loud dude. It was a great

1215
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 3: fan base, loyal.

1216
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 2: Loved them.

1217
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, you know, thinks things don't go well and

1218
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 3: they'll let you know about it.

1219
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 2: I respect honestly. Yeah, your face though, you're playing a.

1220
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 1: Little vanilla on me right now, and I know there's

1221
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: a little something behind that. They probably passed you off,

1222
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: those Jets fans.

1223
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, you know, there's there's a lot that

1224
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 3: you know, people would say stuff, and you know, but again,

1225
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 3: like I said, like when you when you're in the

1226
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 3: social media world and people are talking so much shit online,

1227
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 3: you respect it so much more when people say it

1228
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:07,959
Speaker 3: to your face.

1229
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I uh, There's only been a handful of time

1230
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 1: someone says, um too my face, right, But Jets fans

1231
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: really do it like that all the time. Yeah, tough.

1232
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 1: You're going to it. You're going to a little deli

1233
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: out there grabbing a sandwich.

1234
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 3: There was a place so I love so I love

1235
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,399
Speaker 3: this place in New Jersey. I'm not going to say

1236
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 3: the name.

1237
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: Okay, you have no free shoutouts.

1238
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 3: I love that, yeah, and I don't live there anymore,

1239
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 3: so but uh no, great people, but there would be

1240
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 3: people that would All the people that go there are

1241
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 3: Jets fans, like they have like the old school like

1242
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 3: eighties letterman jacket, like you know, I'm like did you

1243
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 3: play for the Jets or like nah, I'm just a

1244
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 3: big fan. And uh so they're extra hard hats, like

1245
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 3: they're all the Fireman ad guys. So no, but like

1246
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 3: great fans, but they they would definitely be like, hey,

1247
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 3: what the fuck are we doing? Like can we can

1248
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 3: we get the ball to a Can we put Damarius

1249
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 3: Thomas out there more often? Like when he catches the ball,

1250
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 3: he does something with it every time, and it's like, hey,

1251
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 3: you're not wrong, like I hear you. He's he's dealing

1252
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 3: with some some hamstring issues right right, But they don't

1253
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 3: care about that all about you know what I mean. Uh,

1254
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 3: And so it's just stuff like that. But honestly, it

1255
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 3: was It's fun to have those conversations, you know what

1256
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 3: I mean, because they're like critiquing, like what we should

1257
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 3: do and strategy and stuff like that. The part that

1258
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 3: pisses me off is when people judge like my game,

1259
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 3: like how I'm playing. Then I'm like, hey, Bud, like

1260
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 3: go strap it up, like yeah, you know what I mean.

1261
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 3: Like I was like, you're a fan, and I respect

1262
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 3: you being a fan, and you can talk all the

1263
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,439
Speaker 3: shit you want and I'm not going to do anything

1264
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 3: about it at the end.

1265
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 2: Of the day.

1266
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 3: But like take it easy, Like like what if I

1267
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 3: was like, hey, like the house you just worked on,

1268
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 3: piece of shit, Like you're you're so bad at tiling,

1269
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 3: Like really, go get another job, really think about your profession. Yeah,

1270
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 3: you know, it's like sometimes you just want to say

1271
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:06,479
Speaker 3: stuff like that, but you can't.

1272
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: Well why not?

1273
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah I could, Yeah you're going.

1274
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 1: To No, I'm with you. I wouldn't say that either.

1275
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1276
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. It always sounds so good to think about because

1277
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,240
Speaker 1: you're on that on that Twitter, you see somebody say something.

1278
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 2: Like yeah, like even now I feel like a coward,

1279
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Yeah, damn, Like now.

1280
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 3: I feel like a coward like that guy, that guy

1281
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 3: that's sitting here listening to that podcast like that the

1282
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 3: Jets fans, Like, now I actually know what he wanted

1283
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:29,240
Speaker 3: to say to me, but he didn't.

1284
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1285
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: Oh, there's an actual Tyler out there.

1286
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 2: No, I don't know, I don't know. It probably was

1287
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 2: Carpenter and like, yeah.

1288
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, that is a fucking tough deal when people

1289
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: talk shit like that because you think they think they

1290
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 1: can do it. You go out to a bar and

1291
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: people say something to you and they're like, hey, what whatever,

1292
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,959
Speaker 1: you guys do this? Instead it's like, well, why aren't

1293
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: you the coach? Why are you doing this whole thing?

1294
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: Because they can't love the fans. I don't want to

1295
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: feel like I'm being harder than he is. You're being

1296
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: You're being so nice. I feel like I'm being a

1297
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: little too much of an asshole right now.

1298
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's like when we were talking about Max earlier. Yeah, yeah,

1299
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 2: I feel bad about that to ioham a written apology,

1300
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 2: just kind of shipping on him right away.

1301
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: He's a great guy. I'm like, yeah, but he is

1302
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: just playing both sides of the fence on you. So

1303
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: when when the when you started hearing trade rumors about everything,

1304
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: how did that process go for you? Like, did like

1305
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: did they tell you, hey, we're thinking about trading you.

1306
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 1: Did you hear it from the media first? What was

1307
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: that whole process?

1308
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 3: Like there they were, they were just like, hey, we

1309
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 3: got to figure some stuff out when I was leaving.

1310
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 2: This is exit interview, like raving season. So they don't

1311
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:30,280
Speaker 2: know anything.

1312
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 3: They might know what they want to do, but they

1313
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 3: don't know exactly how they're going to do it. So

1314
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 3: they just tell me, hey, we're gonna we're gonna look

1315
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 3: at you know, people in the draft and uh free

1316
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 3: agents and like, you know, we'll be in touch. And

1317
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 3: so right right when they said that, I was like, okay,

1318
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 3: like it's it's a wrap.

1319
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: So how did that make you feel when you heard

1320
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 1: all that? I was just like, you know, I think

1321
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: you guys are making a mistake.

1322
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 3: Obviously told him that, Yeah, for sure, nice work, but

1323
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,439
Speaker 3: like you know, at the end of the day, it's

1324
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 3: it's not you know, that's not my call. So if

1325
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 3: you know they don't think I'm the guy for them,

1326
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 3: then you know it is what it is. But so

1327
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 3: I just kind of reached out to my agent. I

1328
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 3: was just like, hey, like I'm not going to pay attention.

1329
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 3: I'm I'm gonna like not pay attention to social media

1330
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 3: at all, just like let me know if what happens.

1331
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,879
Speaker 3: Like I was like, if you want to, like tell

1332
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 3: me rumors like, I'm fine with that, like rumors that are.

1333
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 2: Real, not just like yeah bullshit.

1334
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 3: So yeah, so I was just like, let me know

1335
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 3: if anything changes, and then got a call. I don't

1336
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 3: even know when, but I think it was a little

1337
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 3: bit before the draft and they're like, yeah, we're gonna

1338
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 3: all right. It was from my agent first of all.

1339
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 3: Literally it was it was crazy. So my agent calls me.

1340
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 3: He was like, hey, like, the Panthers are trading for you.

1341
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 3: It's gonna come out here in a second. And like,

1342
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 3: right as he's saying that, my phone rings had a

1343
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 3: call from Joe Douglas, the GM with the Jets. I

1344
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 3: was like, hey, like the GMS call me. I got

1345
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 3: to pick this up real quick. And so Joe called

1346
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 3: me and very respect just pull me straight up what

1347
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 3: the deal was. And uh I was like all right,

1348
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 3: you know, sounds good.

1349
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: No, no, thank you nothing, you'res like all right, see ya.

1350
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 2: No.

1351
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 3: He was like, hey, we appreciate everything you've done for

1352
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 3: the organization ever since you've gotten here, but we're gonna,

1353
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 3: you know, move in a different direction.

1354
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh yeah, so was it when we were

1355
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 1: talking about how like we like to get in front

1356
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: of things like when somebody knows something you don't, or

1357
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 1: you know that somebody knows something. When you're going through

1358
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: that process when you talk to the team and they say, hey,

1359
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: we'll let you know how everything goes. And then between

1360
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: that and before the draft you get traded, how you like,

1361
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 1: how are you processing those emotions of like wondering because

1362
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: you know you're not looking at social media, but at

1363
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: the same time, you know there's stuff out there saying X,

1364
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,479
Speaker 1: Y and Z, because I mean it's a huge media

1365
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,439
Speaker 1: market with the Jets. People talk about them all the time.

1366
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's it's tough, dude, because like, you

1367
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 3: what are we doing.

1368
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: I know, I'm getting fucking clown horn going off. I'm

1369
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: a very popular guy.

1370
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 2: Uh. I was joking by the way, I know you were,

1371
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 2: or Taylor's like, I'm gonna kill this guy.

1372
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: Guys, I fucked this dude, Man, get him out of here.

1373
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 3: No, but uh, it was it was weird because, like,

1374
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 3: you know, I have that conversation the exit interview, and

1375
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 3: then I just go about, you know, my business as usual,

1376
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 3: and I'm like, because we the uh they hired Robert Sala,

1377
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 3: the new coach of the Jets, and uh, I'm talking

1378
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 3: to the OC like Michael Floor and Matt's.

1379
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 2: Brother and then uh, great, nap, you know, rest his soul.

1380
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 3: But I mean we were in conversation for you know,

1381
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 3: up until I got traded, basically about the offense, what

1382
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 3: we're gonna do.

1383
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 2: And so when you're.

1384
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, so when they're calling, you're talking about what they're

1385
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: gonna do. Were you like, oh, I'm safe.

1386
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 3: No, I mean because I knew, you know, like I

1387
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 3: said in the exit interview, I was like, Okay, I

1388
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 3: feel like these guys are leaning, you know, in a

1389
00:57:58,240 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 3: different direction.

1390
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 2: So I always knew that deep down.

1391
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 3: But you know, like anything I do, I was just like,

1392
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna you know, put everything I got and

1393
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 3: to learn this new offense and if it works out,

1394
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 3: it doesn't, you know, if it works out, it does,

1395
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 3: it doesn't, it doesn't. Yeah, And uh that was just

1396
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 3: kind of my mindset going into it. I was like,

1397
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 3: I might as well, like keep myself busy, learn the offense,

1398
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 3: and work out and do all the normal things that

1399
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 3: I do. And you know, because the worst thing is

1400
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 3: like sitting on something, you know, just just sitting you know,

1401
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 3: waiting to see what happens. It's like, just keep yourself busy.

1402
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 3: That's that's how I kind of deal with stuff like that. Honestly.

1403
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a plow through right in the middle guy.

1404
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:35,919
Speaker 1: I gotta worry about and figure it out. I gotta

1405
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: I gotta know what the hell is going on in

1406
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: my life. But I respect that though. I respect what

1407
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: you're talking about. Look at us back on the same page,

1408
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: insulting my phone and me, and now look at us,

1409
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: we're back to being best friends again.

1410
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 2: Just so popular.

1411
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: I love it so popular. I have three text messages.

1412
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: I think they're all for my wife. So you get

1413
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: trade to the Panthers, the GM calls you and he says, hey,

1414
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: appreciate everything you've done. Blah blah blah. What's the next part.

1415
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: What is it like when you're getting traded? Like, what

1416
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: is that? Has that work? Do you go immediately to

1417
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: Carolina ye to figure it all out?

1418
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 2: Yep?

1419
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:08,479
Speaker 3: So obviously talked to the GM, talked to Coach Rule,

1420
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 3: went to Carolina, met everyone met. There are probably like

1421
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 3: four or five players that were actually their training So

1422
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 3: met some of the guys, talked some of the guys

1423
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 3: on social media through text, had a dinner with some

1424
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 3: of the guys as well, with like GM owner, head coach,

1425
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 3: a few other players that were there that were in

1426
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 3: town during the off season. And I was just there

1427
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 3: for a couple of days, you know, did the whole

1428
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 3: media thing, you know, sitting in front of the locker,

1429
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 3: putting the jersey on. And yeah, and I flew back

1430
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 3: home and started learning the offense.

1431
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 1: Nice. And so you live in California in the off season.

1432
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful time, greattful time being there.

1433
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:54,439
Speaker 3: Great boyt a place four years ago, redid it through

1434
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 3: my first season while I was in New York and

1435
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 3: then came back and been loving it for the last

1436
00:59:59,280 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 3: three years.

1437
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: That's awesome. So this year you start off, you start

1438
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 1: three and oh, things are going great. You get injured

1439
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: week nine. Correct, Yeah, that's what it said. Remember that's

1440
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:10,959
Speaker 1: what it said. Yeah, we do have notes up here.

1441
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: Cam Newton comes in and takes a spot or whatever,

1442
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 1: Like what was that process like with Cam coming back

1443
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: and he scores a touchdown on I'm back doing all

1444
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 1: that shit is obnoxious as.

1445
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 2: He seems Cam is the best.

1446
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 1: I take it back. I think he's as awesome as

1447
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 1: he seems best.

1448
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:28,959
Speaker 2: Dude, No, honestly, I'm being dead.

1449
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: It's so hard on us back in the day, dude,

1450
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 1: when he was at the when he was originally with

1451
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: the Panthers. God, I think they won the Super Bowl

1452
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 1: or I went to the Super Bowl that year. That

1453
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 1: was the year I was on Wesley Woodard and Avery Williams.

1454
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: He was doing the dance and then Avery came up

1455
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: and got in his face and he did it to

1456
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: him again. God, Avery's a great dude. But ever since then,

1457
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: I was like, man, fuck that dude. Cam Man just

1458
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 1: flexing on everybody. Guys got charisma like no one's personality

1459
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: like you've never seen in your life. So when you

1460
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: get injured and they bring cam and what your what's

1461
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 1: your thought?

1462
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 3: You know, I was just like, okay, like see what

1463
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 3: the deal is like, this is like middle of the season.

1464
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to get healthy, honestly, honestly, and I

1465
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 3: was just like all right, like you know, and yeah,

1466
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 3: he was a great dude, great guy to have in

1467
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 3: the QB room, great guy to just have a round

1468
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 3: in general because his.

1469
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 2: Energy is unmatched.

1470
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 3: And then yeah, and then I come back and play

1471
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 3: and he's a great guy, like I said, just a

1472
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 3: great guy to have a practice, great gout to have

1473
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 3: in your team.

1474
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 2: I literally have nothing bad to say about Cam.

1475
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 1: Is he like is he the way he seems on

1476
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: media always? No, he's not always that high up, high energy.

1477
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 2: No. I mean there's you know, just like anyone else.

1478
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 3: He's like he's just gonna be quiet and like do

1479
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 3: his work and sit in the QB room watch tape,

1480
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 3: take notes. He's gonna like be in the training room

1481
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 3: with his headphones on and the hot tub headphones on,

1482
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 3: like just chilling with a tower round, isn't it.

1483
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 2: You know, It's like he's a normal dude.

1484
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 3: But you know when he gets out to practice, when

1485
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 3: he getting ready for games, and there's times, you know,

1486
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 3: in the locker room and stuff where he gets he

1487
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 3: gets very charismatic and very high energy.

1488
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 2: And it's awesome. But yeah, he's just he's just a

1489
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 2: natural born leader.

1490
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just he got he has that energy and

1491
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 3: uh yeah, all I mean just the things that I've

1492
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 3: learned from him in terms of.

1493
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 2: Because he's dealt with a ton.

1494
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 3: Of stuff, a lot of a lot of stuff, a

1495
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 3: lot of ups and downs in his career and the

1496
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 3: way that he's handled it and the way that he

1497
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 3: talks about how he's handled it. Uh, just so much respect,

1498
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 3: and yeah, it's a great dude.

1499
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: He was MVP one year and then a couple of

1500
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: years later it's like it's not going the way he

1501
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 1: wants it to. And he had trouble finding a job

1502
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 1: for a little bit, so to go through that kind

1503
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 1: of adversity, and and he just seems like every time

1504
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 1: he gets on a team or does something, he's the

1505
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 1: same dude over You got to respect that, Oh yeah,

1506
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 1: gotta respect that. So this year, I know you don't

1507
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: you don't read a lot of stuff, but there's a

1508
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:08,959
Speaker 1: lot of people are talking about whether the Panther's draft

1509
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 1: of guy, whether they were in the Deshaun Watson talk

1510
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: for a little bit of trading for the quarterback. Like

1511
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: what is you Obviously like you say you don't look

1512
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 1: at the social media stuff, which I'm not sure one

1513
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: hundred percent believe yet.

1514
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 3: But I see some stuff. Yeah, then, but I really

1515
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 3: try not to pay attention to it. Yeah, I don't

1516
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 3: even know if.

1517
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 2: I try not to. It's just that I don't.

1518
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, because it was so it was you know,

1519
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 3: New York was on another level, So it was like,

1520
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 3: you know, I kind of figured out how to handle

1521
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 3: it there, and it was like kind of going back

1522
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 3: and forth, you know, between my rookie my first year

1523
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 3: and my third year. It was like I figured out

1524
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 3: how to best handle it for myself. Yeah, it was

1525
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 3: just not really paying attention to it. So that's why

1526
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 3: I've handled it. And I've kind of done the same

1527
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,919
Speaker 3: thing this offseason, where like I'm just trying to learn

1528
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 3: coach mcadew's soon and that's where I'm at, you know

1529
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 3: what I mean.

1530
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, do you get nervous when the draft's coming

1531
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 1: up or anything like that with possibilities of them drafting

1532
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 1: a quarterback at six.

1533
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 2: Or it's just it's it's literally like there's a.

1534
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 1: Lot harder questions than I usually ask on this thing.

1535
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 3: I apologize this is good because no one, to be honest,

1536
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 3: no one ever asked me these questions because they're you know,

1537
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 3: whether they're afraid or they don't they don't want to

1538
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 3: bring it up, you know, just in normal everyday conversation. Yeah,

1539
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 3: so no, this is truly like the first time I've

1540
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 3: ever answered questions like this. But dude, it's like, honestly,

1541
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 3: whatever happens, I'm prepared for it, and you know, at

1542
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 3: the end of the day, someone's got to answer for it.

1543
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 2: Whether it's you know, whoever it is, so the GM coach, whatever.

1544
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 3: If something happens like that, then it's like, all right,

1545
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 3: I'm going to see what they have to say and

1546
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 3: that's about it.

1547
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I hear what you're saying, but

1548
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 1: it's for me, it'd be like a tough that'd be

1549
01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 1: a tough thing to kind of to feel and knowing

1550
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 1: when you're when you're quarterback, because you know, like, well.

1551
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 2: It's the Baker thing.

1552
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's the Baker thing, and it's it's understanding

1553
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 1: you're like trying to understand your thought process of like

1554
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: how you're not looking at you're not paying attention that

1555
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 1: you're just focused on what you're trying to do, which

1556
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 1: is be a great quarterback. The only issue is like

1557
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: if they so that they do draft a guy at six,

1558
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 1: you got you know how the you know how the

1559
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 1: politics of the NFL work. You know that guy from Liberty,

1560
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 1: whatever his name is, if they, let's say they draft him,

1561
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 1: you got to sit there and know that if you

1562
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 1: guys play well in camp, you might start the beginning,

1563
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 1: but at some point in time the owner the GM

1564
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 1: is gonna start telling the hew coach, we got to

1565
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 1: get our first round pick to play, you know. And

1566
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 1: so that's gotta that's got to ruffle some feathers on

1567
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 1: the inside a little bit. It's got to be tough

1568
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 1: to think that, Like, I'll give you, I'll give you

1569
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 1: an example.

1570
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 2: So well, shot to the ego.

1571
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a shot to the ego. In twenty sixteen,

1572
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 1: we had the number one overall pick and John Robinson

1573
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 1: was the new GM and everybody that, all the analysts,

1574
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 1: the experts saying that we need to draft a guy

1575
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 1: number one overall off it's a tackle and move me

1576
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: to right tackle. And so at that point, well, I

1577
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 1: won't play right tackle. It's nothing against right tackles. It's

1578
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 1: just I'm a left tackle and that's what I'm gonna play.

1579
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 1: And if they say have to play right tackle, I'm

1580
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: out of here.

1581
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 2: You know.

1582
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 1: That's just how I work. And so I meet with

1583
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 1: John a couple of weeks. It's like the middle of

1584
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 1: April or something like that. He's asked me, like how

1585
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 1: I feel about all this whole thing, and I kind

1586
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 1: of just tell him. I was like, you know, the

1587
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 1: first overall picks a lot of money to pay for

1588
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 1: a right tackle because I'm a left tackle. We go

1589
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 1: through a couple of weeks of OTAs and they end

1590
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 1: up trading the pickaway, you know what I'm saying. So

1591
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 1: like that for me, that's like when I had, like

1592
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 1: I've said, anything that comes to me, I want to

1593
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 1: barrel through it. So people know how I fear. I

1594
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 1: don't leave anything up to I wonder what he was

1595
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 1: thinking that you know exactly how I'm feeling and stuff

1596
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 1: like that. So just when the draft is coming, it's

1597
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 1: got to be a hard feeling or wondering what is

1598
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 1: the possibility. It's nothing you can't control, truly, but the

1599
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 1: thought of it coming coming up, it's got to be

1600
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 1: a difficult thing at times for sure.

1601
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it truly is.

1602
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 3: And this is this is kind of where you're not

1603
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 3: gonna believe what I say, but just bear with me.

1604
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 1: Are you ready?

1605
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1606
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 3: It truly is, like whatever happens happens, because that's at

1607
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 3: the end of the day, like it's out of my control. Yeah,

1608
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 3: And I know that, And so I have enough security

1609
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 3: in myself to where I can be like, I know,

1610
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 3: I'm a good quarterback.

1611
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 2: No, I can be a good quarterback in this league.

1612
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 3: I've proved it, and I know there's a team if

1613
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 3: you know, something happens that would want me.

1614
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. So well, I feel like the emotional maturity to

1615
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 1: handle like that is impressive. Like I think I go

1616
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 1: about I'm not saying the way I do things is

1617
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 1: a mature way, because I don't. I think it's like

1618
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 1: it can be a little reckless sometimes and for you

1619
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 1: to have the head on your shoulders you do as

1620
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 1: a quarterback that you would want.

1621
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think it's it's all about who

1622
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 3: you surround yourself with too. That's how I've always thought,

1623
01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 3: Like my parents, my family, my friends that I have

1624
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 3: back home, Like all my high school buddies are all

1625
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 3: my best friends. So you know, obviously there's guys in

1626
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 3: college that I you know, I'm boys with doo, but.

1627
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 2: Like I'm best friend.

1628
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 3: I have like six or seven best friends in high

1629
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 3: school that were kind of with me before all this

1630
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 3: shit started happening. So I just kind of roll with them,

1631
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 3: and you know, if I start getting a big head

1632
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:23,680
Speaker 3: and they let me know about it, that's impressive.

1633
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 1: So you know, yeah, that's pretty much it having boys

1634
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 1: like that around you is really special to have. Yeah,

1635
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 1: definitely people that I'll keep in your place for sure.

1636
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 1: The locker room talk segment is the last thing I promise. Okay,

1637
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 1: So the whole point of the locker room segment, it's

1638
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 1: a new thing. We started last week. We started with

1639
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 1: Fred Taylor, and it's basically like something like, you're sitting

1640
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 1: with the boys in the locker room a story you

1641
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 1: whether it's off the field, on the field that you

1642
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 1: don't usually talk about with the mainstream media. We're definitely

1643
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 1: not the mainstream media. But with with media types in there,

1644
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 1: we're not trying to be mainstream. We're definitely not trying

1645
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 1: to be mainstream. Buttoned up is not our forte. Yeah,

1646
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 1: but as far as locker room talk.

1647
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 2: No one's gonna listen to this.

1648
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 1: No, we have millions of viewers, millions or its not

1649
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 1: on main stream, you know what I'm saying. We're not

1650
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 1: the ESPN's Okay.

1651
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, I don't know if I can even.

1652
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 1: Have a weird way to segue like a segment too,

1653
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 1: like just to ask, hey, tell us a cool story, right,

1654
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:21,879
Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of tough.

1655
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 3: No, it's kind of funny is ESPN even I don't know,

1656
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 3: like is TV mainstream media now?

1657
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 2: Like is that? I mean? But yeah, like podcasts and

1658
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 2: YouTube are starting to become a little more.

1659
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 1: It's definitely transitioning quite a bit.

1660
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 3: Because I know, like I'll sit on YouTube for hours,

1661
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:39,679
Speaker 3: you know, and not watch a look at TV.

1662
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 2: So maybe I'm just different.

1663
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, ESPN they let off like a hundred laid off

1664
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 1: like one hundred people a couple of years ago, and

1665
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 1: it's I mean, it's tough. Shout out all the grinders

1666
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 1: out there in the mainstream media, though, dude, shout to

1667
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:53,639
Speaker 1: shout out you guys. But the podcast, like you see

1668
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 1: Pat McAfee's doing. I think he's the most watched dude

1669
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,639
Speaker 1: of all the places, right, guys making I would say

1670
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 1: close to undred million dollars to hear right now. Yeah,

1671
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 1: Rogan's out there too, but he's not I mean, he's

1672
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 1: not sports. But yeah, he crushed the CNN and NBC.

1673
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:10,719
Speaker 1: We had a Brandon shab on here and they were saying,

1674
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 1: like all those mainstream news media's takes like a week

1675
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 1: two weeks to just gain one of his episodes, and

1676
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 1: he's putting out three of those a week. Thirteen million views.

1677
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 1: Hawking just talking. He's dude. He's incredible at having conversations

1678
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 1: with people too. Yeah, incredible. Did you have a four

1679
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 1: hour conversation? Yeah? I think I could could. Yeah, well,

1680
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 1: it's it's usually the conversation usually goes off of who

1681
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 1: you're talking to, right, Like, if, for sure, if Joe's

1682
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 1: on here, he's a he's an excellent speaker. Yeah, things

1683
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 1: lowing and he loves talking, so I don't think that'd

1684
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:41,640
Speaker 1: be an issue at all for sure to be on

1685
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 1: with him. But locker room segment, sorry, locker room talk.

1686
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 1: What kind of story do you got for us that's

1687
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 1: going to bless the bus?

1688
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 2: I mean besides all the dudes running around naked in

1689
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 2: the locker room.

1690
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, we can talk about it if you peek at

1691
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 1: meat too in a second. Okay, big part of our thing.

1692
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:58,639
Speaker 2: Two riffs riffs only.

1693
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 1: No, I'm a locker guys with the kind of Yeah,

1694
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 1: I think I've just moved on to not caring anymore.

1695
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 2: Hey, you gotta you got kids, right?

1696
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got kids. Okay, I don't know what that

1697
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:08,600
Speaker 1: has to do with anything. Oh, yes, you know what

1698
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah, it's like it's the best cover up

1699
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 1: I've ever had in my entire life.

1700
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:18,719
Speaker 2: It's outstanding. Yeah, oh man, Uh locker room story.

1701
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's not like a locker room story,

1702
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 3: but it's happened.

1703
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 2: Uh after the Rose Bowl game.

1704
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 3: We were in the Rose Bowl and school's on winter

1705
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 3: break and so so no one's at school, and so

1706
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 3: we're like, what do we do? Like literally, I'm like,

1707
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 3: didn't have a planned out, like nothing, just won the

1708
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 3: Rose Bull. Don't know what the Rose Bull? Like, what

1709
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 3: do we do? You know, Uh, can't go out? You know,

1710
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 3: got my d's taken away? If that's not allowed to

1711
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 3: be on this we can take that out, I'm sure.

1712
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:53,719
Speaker 1: But yeah we won't. But all right, I'm just kidding.

1713
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 2: Got my got my d's taken away? Uh.

1714
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 3: And so I was like nineteen, I think at the time,

1715
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 3: and so I literally was like, what do we do?

1716
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 3: So we go back an hour south down to my

1717
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:08,600
Speaker 3: hometown and I literally all those guys I mentioned, Uh,

1718
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:11,599
Speaker 3: we just had a time. We had a time at

1719
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 3: uh at my buddy's house, who had a bunch of

1720
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 3: people over. He had a sick backyard, jacuzie all that stuff.

1721
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 3: So all this stuff you enjoy when you're nineteen years old.

1722
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 3: So we had a few drinks and I ended up

1723
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 3: we ended up thinking it was a good idea to

1724
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 3: DM Snoop Dogg okay because he wasn't you know, he

1725
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 3: wasn't involved with USC anymore. And I was like, dude,

1726
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 3: he'd for sure respond. All my buddies were like hyping

1727
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 3: me up, like, dude, you just want the rose bull,

1728
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 3: like you should be able to talk to him. And uh,

1729
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 3: to this day, like seven years however long it is

1730
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:48,679
Speaker 3: years later, no response.

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01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:54,720
Speaker 1: Snoop said a word. Nothing, He's that is a cut

1732
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:56,680
Speaker 1: to the core. I really thought that was going to

1733
01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:58,599
Speaker 1: go to like he and he hit us up, went

1734
01:12:58,640 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 1: to his house.

1735
01:12:59,160 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 2: We went to his house.

1736
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:01,599
Speaker 1: Yeah nah yeah. Did he read it?

1737
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 3: So sorry for everyone listening because that was, you know,

1738
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 3: tough story, but the story with stup Dog is good.

1739
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 3: Did anything of Snoop? Yeah, but uh nothing, dude.

1740
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 1: Not didn't read it or anything.

1741
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1742
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:14,600
Speaker 3: He was probably like, who are these fucking kids like

1743
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 3: just recording videos like send them whatever.

1744
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, just like dumb stuff, but uh, dumb ass crackers.

1745
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 2: Yeah that's probably what he said.

1746
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 3: Uh, but yeah, it was just like send him a

1747
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 3: video and he just never responded, and I was pretty devastated.

1748
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's got to be tough when you put yourself

1749
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 1: out there, especially when you tell the boys, yeah he

1750
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 1: probably responded, and they're like, oh, you for sure would.

1751
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 2: It wasn't even my idea. It was like one of

1752
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 2: my boys idea, Yeah, and I.

1753
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:42,720
Speaker 1: Was just like a couple hours go by and it's like, oh,

1754
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 1: it's not looking good for saying yeah right.

1755
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 3: That was that was kind of like where where it

1756
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:50,440
Speaker 3: came from was like we wanted something to go do. Uh,

1757
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:52,679
Speaker 3: you know, an uber up to l A probably wouldn't

1758
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:55,640
Speaker 3: be super cheap, but we're gonna do it. If you

1759
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 3: like was like yeah, like come out with the boys,

1760
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 3: you know it'd be a good time and just never respond.

1761
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 1: Parting with Snoop Dog would be all the time. You

1762
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 1: would be so high, Yeah, regardless of whether you wanted

1763
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 1: to or not. Right, Yeah, second hand, just second hand,

1764
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 1: just a stone out of your mind. You think it'd

1765
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 1: be harder to smoke with Snoop Dog or Willie Nelson?

1766
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:18,640
Speaker 1: Willie Nelson, you think it'd be harder? Well, elaborate, why.

1767
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 2: Do you think I think there was a story that

1768
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 2: came out of Willian Nelson's smoking. Uh.

1769
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 3: It was like Snoop and Whizz kal Walifa under the bus,

1770
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:28,679
Speaker 3: no ship, yeah, under the bus.

1771
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 1: There you go. Yeah.

1772
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 2: I think Toby Keith wrote a song about He'll never smoke.

1773
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 2: We with Willie Nelson again. Yeah, he was like that.

1774
01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 2: I don't know that's what I heard. I think I

1775
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 2: heard that.

1776
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 3: Maybe it was maybe it was flipped, but I'm pretty

1777
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 3: sure it was Willie Nelson.

1778
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 1: And those two Wiz Khalifa and Snoop Dogg. They are like,

1779
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 1: that's those thing guys, that's the weird guys. Yeah, those

1780
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 1: are the weird guys.

1781
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 2: And Seth Rogan. Yeah, yeah, no doubt. Seth Rogan does

1782
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 2: get after it, doesn't you. Listen, dude, I had an

1783
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 2: outstanding time.

1784
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:55,960
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1785
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:58,000
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1786
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:00,559
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1787
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:04,280
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1789
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