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Speaker 1: Oh, good time, Staker, Sustus bust time, good afternoon, and

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Speaker 1: welcome to Buffalo Bill's training Camp, not Rochester Americans Camp,

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's training Camp. I'm John Murphy along with a

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Speaker 1: vacation in Steve Tasker here for the next three hours. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry for say habit. We got used to calling

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Speaker 1: you the vacation Ina. No, actually, Brownie wanted us to

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Speaker 1: call you Steve Park time tasker, time prefer Let me

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Speaker 1: think about it. That'll be the next make a note

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Speaker 1: of that. Jay Harrison's next Twitter poll is about what

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Speaker 1: my nickname would be. Steve. I like time off task

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Speaker 1: time off tasker. While you were gone, we came up

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Speaker 1: with a nickname. Actually we did. In Tradevious White did

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Speaker 1: a nickname for the Buffalo Bill Secondary. Did you see that?

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Speaker 1: I heard it as Bill Bill Collectors Genius. No, you're not,

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Speaker 1: You're not like it. I like it, I see it.

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Speaker 1: I like the double and to Andre what Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: to let turnovers exactly. Yeah, we love it. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: should get him on our Twitter pool. Thought we should

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Speaker 1: we should get him up. Welcome back, Steve. It's good

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Speaker 1: to have you back. It's great to be back. It's

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Speaker 1: last night. You said they can't wait for Friday's game.

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Speaker 1: What are you so excited about? You know, thinking it's

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Speaker 1: only Tyrod being over there now and Hard Knocks is

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Speaker 1: they appear to be on their way. They appeared dysfunctional

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Speaker 1: camp in general. Three weeks from today. Three weeks ago today,

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Speaker 1: Coming up at the twelve thirty, Brian Baldinger well had

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Speaker 1: to depend on. But the two they're established. They had

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Speaker 1: a good season, a really good season last year. In

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Speaker 1: the secondary, I think I tend to put the secondary

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Speaker 1: of its own unless you're a corner like Tredavious or

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, a not lockdown corner. I don't

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Speaker 1: think you start breaking the secondary up into corners and

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Speaker 1: say I think the secondary is its own unit. So

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Speaker 1: I don't think if you're gonna say him, they define it. Maybe,

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Speaker 1: But I think as a single player, Tremaine Edmonds in

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Speaker 1: the middle, how he plays and how he commands that

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Speaker 1: defense to play and how they rally around him is

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Speaker 1: going to say a lot about what that defense looks like.

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Speaker 1: What do you think tuned in radio or TV, on

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Speaker 1: MSG and the video side, or on radio on a

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Speaker 1: flagship in Buffalo, w GR or any other outlet you

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Speaker 1: may be listening to us and give us a call.

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Speaker 1: We got lines open eight oh three five fifty toll

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Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: Who's the defining player on the Buffalo Bill's offense for

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen? Who's the defining player on defense? Let's take

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Speaker 1: a call from Mike in Connecticut as soon as I

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Speaker 1: get him fired up here, Mike, Hello, go ahead, you're

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Speaker 1: on the air with us. Hey, John, Steve, how are

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Speaker 1: you well? Um? So I'm seeing with Saw McCoy on

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Speaker 1: offense just because I think he's going to be you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously the work horse to control the tempo of the game.

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Speaker 1: If we have a good running attack with him, I

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Speaker 1: think whoever the quarterback is will benefit from Shady getting

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Speaker 1: you know, twenty maybe twenty five touches a game and

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Speaker 1: just control that part of the game. And then on defense,

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Speaker 1: I still think it's Tremaine Edmonds just to solidify that

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Speaker 1: linebacker position. Um. I think he's going to be, you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously a nightmare for opposing offenses to plan against. Um.

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Speaker 1: And once one final note, Steve, that um call that

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Speaker 1: you or game that you called with Nate Clements with

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Speaker 1: that hit against Tom Brady. It's one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: calls and clips of all time. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you remember where his helmet popped off about twenty Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I remember the play. I was on that game. I

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Speaker 1: called that game. What do you remember? What did he say?

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Speaker 1: What did I say? Mike? You said it? He said

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Speaker 1: it gave you chills. Um, when you saw the helmet

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Speaker 1: come off, it gave you chills. Chills didn't last very

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Speaker 1: long obviously. Yeah. Well, I appreciate it. Thanks. I don't

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Speaker 1: have goosebumps anymore. Thanks, Mike. I appreciate it. Mike Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was that's a long time ago. Cool Nate Clements.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that was a long time. It's been

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Speaker 1: a while. Um. What do you think the uh the

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Speaker 1: defining player offensetive? Since we got a couple from the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet here from Team Many twenty two. Simply put,

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Speaker 1: it's how the quarterback performs on offense and the quarterback

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Speaker 1: of the defense Tremaine Edmonds. Injuries the other key, and

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Speaker 1: being so thin at linebacker, it is crucial for Edmonds

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Speaker 1: and Lorenzo to stay healthy. Well sure they need them both, yea.

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Speaker 1: And health is always the big unknown anyway, So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I get all of that's that's pretty true. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I love what it brings out in people because you know,

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Speaker 1: the quarterback is important, But I don't know if it's

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Speaker 1: going to define who the team is. I think who's

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Speaker 1: playing quarterback. Look, if it's if it's Peterman or McCarron,

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Speaker 1: I think you're saying one thing. If it's Josh, you're

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Speaker 1: saying something else. And that's why I picked quarterback. That's

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Speaker 1: why I picked Josh. Again. If he's playing, he defines

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Speaker 1: what the expectations are, what the team wants to do.

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Speaker 1: Are they looking longer term than shorter term. That's why

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Speaker 1: I picked Josh Allen as my defining player on offense. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting from Buffalo fan, he says, Tremaine Edmonds will

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Speaker 1: define the defense. I think everybody's kind of falling on

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Speaker 1: Tremaine in the defense. But Charles Clay, I believe, will

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Speaker 1: to find the offense. I'd name a quarterback, but the

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Speaker 1: team doesn't hasn't done so yet, possibly Kelvin Benjamin. But

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Speaker 1: I looked to the tight ends to be an integral

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Speaker 1: part of this offense. That's you know, I can see that.

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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what we were going to talk

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Speaker 1: about this when we talk about the All Saint John

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Speaker 1: Fisher team and the MVP's a camp who had a

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Speaker 1: great comeback here. The tight end position has emerged with

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Speaker 1: some guys. I mean, Charles Clay is a good player,

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Speaker 1: and I was thinking, wow, what happens if Charle Clay

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Speaker 1: goes away? You don't have much experience. But that's the

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Speaker 1: same with a lot of positions around the club. So

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna take the way the best and most

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Speaker 1: experienced player, that's gonna crush a lot of positions on

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Speaker 1: the roster. But Charles Clay and the rest of the

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Speaker 1: tight ends with Crum doing the things he had, Logan

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Speaker 1: Thomas doing the things that he had. These guys have

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Speaker 1: really that tight end position as I think, been transformed.

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Speaker 1: Nico Leary it's been while he's got to really hustle,

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Speaker 1: he's getting challenged for his spot. Jason Croom, Keith Towbridge,

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Speaker 1: carry Lee, Logan Thomas, all these guys have really played

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Speaker 1: extremely well and the quarterbacks are thrown them the football.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're not showing any hesitation. These guys have not,

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Speaker 1: and into my mind, I haven't seen it. You know,

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen a tight end make a bad play.

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Speaker 1: And I saw him in the game against Carolina make

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Speaker 1: some really good blocks down inside. So they're doing it

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Speaker 1: on both ends of the of the of the game

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Speaker 1: run game end passed. So I think the tight end position,

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Speaker 1: as as Buffalo fan just tweeted, Charles Clay and that crew,

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Speaker 1: that tight end crew is really might be a difference

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Speaker 1: making group this year. I saw Kyrie Lee, who's an

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Speaker 1: outstanding blocker, a tight and make a great catch out here. Today.

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Speaker 1: Today's practice a little bit shorter than normal, a lot

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Speaker 1: of work on the run game, not practicing today. Several

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Speaker 1: players Brandon Riley still with ribs, Trent Murphy still out

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Speaker 1: with groin, Markabius Lewis was not practicing today. Ray Ray

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Speaker 1: McLeod practiced in a red non contact Jersey had an

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Speaker 1: unspecified injury and the Bills making one roster move today.

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Speaker 1: They sounded into fullback Sam Rodgers and they waved injured

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Speaker 1: Zach olstet. I saw him limp off the field the

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Speaker 1: other day two days ago here and he was waived

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Speaker 1: injured today, So a new fullback Sam Rogers will get

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Speaker 1: more details on him moving forward. Call on the line

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Speaker 1: from Steve in his car. Hello, Steve, welcome, you're on

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Speaker 1: the air with us. Welcome to One Bill's Live. Steve,

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Speaker 1: how you doing, guys? Um good? I agree with Murph. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the kids, Alan and Treman Edwards also.

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Speaker 1: But uh, I just I'd like to ask Steve, Steve,

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Speaker 1: what's um? Why don't you what is the main reason?

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Speaker 1: Hang on, I'm getting the directions from your GPS. Hang on,

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Speaker 1: I gotta turn left here, go ahead, Steve. That's all right,

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Speaker 1: don't miss your turn. No, I won't, Steve, do you think? Um?

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Speaker 1: Josh Hanald wouldn't be ready just because of the mental

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Speaker 1: aspect of the game, or because from every every time

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Speaker 1: I listened to the radio from Salcamacho and I saw

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Speaker 1: these guys jo up at Scaglia. You know, they're like

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Speaker 1: his physical tools just set him apart. So what would

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Speaker 1: we be taking that much of a risk by, you know,

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Speaker 1: by starting him or or even in letting him play

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Speaker 1: with the first team in the preseason, just you know,

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Speaker 1: just wonder what the thoughts are on there. Well, here's

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Speaker 1: the thing, and it is a risk because he's a

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Speaker 1: big investment and you don't want to sour the investment

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Speaker 1: by making bad decisions about his development. If you put

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Speaker 1: him in early and say he has a half like

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Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman had in the Chargers last year, and then

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Speaker 1: he puts and what do you do then? Do you

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Speaker 1: pull him out and bench him and then stick him

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Speaker 1: back in the next week? Do you look at your

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Speaker 1: roster and the guys and the team and say we're

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Speaker 1: gonna play him again, and have those guys look at

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Speaker 1: you like this, he's not ready. You know your then

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Speaker 1: your team gives up on you, and no matter who

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Speaker 1: plays quarterback for you, they're not gonna win, you lose

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Speaker 1: the higher the entire locker room by not giving them

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Speaker 1: the best chance to win with whoever you put out there. Um,

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Speaker 1: that's a risk, so yeah, yeah. And also the risk

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Speaker 1: is that you sour an investment the size that you

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Speaker 1: have Josh Allen, with all that you have your hopes

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Speaker 1: and dreams tied up in him, and not give him

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Speaker 1: the best chance to be successful by taking him slow,

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Speaker 1: being patient with him, and given other guys a chance

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Speaker 1: to get things up and run and teach him how

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Speaker 1: to work, how to do his job during the regular season,

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Speaker 1: when he's getting a game plan, when he's getting number

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Speaker 1: one reps, watching how Aj mccaron or Nathan Peterman do it,

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Speaker 1: guys who have done it for at least one year,

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Speaker 1: in AJ's cases, his fifth year of watching Andy Dalton

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Speaker 1: who was in the playoffs for the first five or

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Speaker 1: six years of his career. Every year he knows how

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Speaker 1: to work during the week of the regular season, give

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Speaker 1: him a chance to see that, give him a chance

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Speaker 1: to look and see where those guys do well and

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Speaker 1: where they do poorly. But because there's no there is

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Speaker 1: no doubt his physical skills dwarf most of the NFL,

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Speaker 1: most of the not all the NFL, but most of

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Josh Allen's physical gifts dwarf a lot of

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Speaker 1: guys that's always going to be there, and you've got

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Speaker 1: to make sure that you give him the learning and

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Speaker 1: the knowledge depth to maximize it. You don't want to

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Speaker 1: send him in there and have him fail because he

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Speaker 1: was not intellectually ready. Okay, thanks for your call. You

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Speaker 1: do agree with that? I mean, is that a roll

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Speaker 1: of the diet is a roll of the dice. But

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Speaker 1: you feel stronger on that than I do. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how much damage you could do. You know what?

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Speaker 1: Jason Peterman had a nightmarish first half against the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: All right, last year he's all right now, he's all right.

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Speaker 1: He was all right when he started against the Colts. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: last year. You know what I mean? I think, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Peterman's a special kid. Yeah, I'll tell you. Well, we'll

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Speaker 1: get into this later because we we've got more to

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Speaker 1: say about what they could what they risk if they

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Speaker 1: start Josh Allen. Brian Baldinger standing by to join us.

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Speaker 1: A twelve year NFL venteroran offensive lineman played for the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys and the Colts and the Philadelphia Eagles. Now, of

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Speaker 1: course he's on NFL Network and he did a pretty

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Speaker 1: good breakdown of Josh Allen and some others. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: with I am Boldinger when we return. John Murphy, Steve

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Speaker 1: Are you okay? You got'm good to be back? So

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Speaker 1: you feel like you're wrong here, don't you? This is

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Speaker 1: this show's flying by. Yeah. I'm glad you feel we're

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Speaker 1: secretly deep deep down. You're really happy on a deep

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Speaker 1: down here. I'm glad you're back. No, not that deep.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you're back right on the surface. I love deep.

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Speaker 1: We got more to come. Brian Ballnacker standing by to

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Speaker 1: join us. Next, we are live at training camp on

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Speaker 1: the final day of training camp one Bills Live on

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to Bill's training camp at

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Speaker 1: Saint John Fisher College, John Murphy, Steve Cashier, the final

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Speaker 1: day of training camp. The Bills are headed down the road.

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Speaker 1: What was final day of camp like for? You were

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Speaker 1: always gonna hurry to get out. I bet you're gonna

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Speaker 1: be a hurry today. What am I asking you about?

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be if you're gonna be flying down, you

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Speaker 1: know it's kind of you gotta kind of get It's

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Speaker 1: interesting because it's harder to get out the older you are,

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Speaker 1: because the older you are, the more prepared you are

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Speaker 1: for camp, which means the more stuff you bring with you.

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Speaker 1: So you have like an old car load full of

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Speaker 1: stuff that you got to load up and take home

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Speaker 1: and and uh, and you always feel like when you

635
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Speaker 1: get home it's gonna be like ah, you like, oh,

636
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: it's great, and you see to relax, I'm back home.

637
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: Then it's like, no, no, you gotta gotta fix this, dude,

638
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: take the trash out. Can I go back? Everything got

639
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: to go back to, you know, it's like your second job,

640
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Speaker 1: you know. But that's yeah, but it is. It's uh

641
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: sometimes when you're an older guy, especially when you got

642
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: you know, four kids like I did at the time.

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Speaker 1: Camp look pretty good. I'm a line with us right now,

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Speaker 1: the Subway Fresh Take Hotline a gentleman who is an

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Speaker 1: NFL network analyst. You can follow him on Twitter at

646
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Speaker 1: Baldy NFL. You can see him during the week on

647
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Speaker 1: NFL Networks NFL Total Access seven pm. Happy to have

648
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Speaker 1: Brian Baldinger, former offensive lineman twelve years in the league. Brian,

649
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: Steve and I were talking are you guys former teammates.

650
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: Did you guys play together on the Bills? John good

651
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: to be with there? Hey, Steve, what's going on in Yeah,

652
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: I mean near task for teammates for a training camp

653
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: and an all season up there at Beautiful for Donia State.

654
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: My brother was up there with games and helped down

655
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: the special teams for I was up there with them.

656
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,719
Speaker 1: It was it was a great experience for me. Mom

657
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: decided that he went the different directions at the end,

658
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: but I didn't have any hard feelings at all. Man.

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00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: It was it was a great, great team to be around,

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Speaker 1: to be a part of, and it was you know,

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00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: it was a great era for the Buffalo Bills and

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00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: the fans of the Buffalo Bills back then. Yeah, Steve

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Speaker 1: and I were talking, I believe, if memory serves your camp,

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Speaker 1: you were playing behind the great Kent Hall, right, he

665
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Speaker 1: was the starting center, the late great Kent Hall. You

666
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: were kind of backing him up that training camp, man. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was back up to Kent and I played a

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Speaker 1: lot there. I played all offensive, lot of positions, but

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Speaker 1: Kent was he was just you know, one of a time, man.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I don't know, if I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I can say this or not, but I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure to tell him the whole of fame without Kennock

673
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: for them the ball and helping them out. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he was invaluable in so many different ways. But we

675
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: an biff him, but he was he was speckled. Man.

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00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: He helped me, made me feel part of the whole,

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00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: you know, team of the offensive lineback then. Yeah you're

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00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: not You're not talking about a turn, no question. Jim

679
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: says the same thing about Kent and Um. I remember Baldi.

680
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: Baldi was a great teammate. It was it was fun

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Speaker 1: having him there. We were there for an offseason and

682
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: back then everything was different. We kind of worked out together.

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00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: Everybody would come in and uh Baldi through training camp.

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Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun, a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: You know people talk about you know camp and James

686
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: Lodden had um. I thought Barb was exceedingly fair. Um

687
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: and how he ran it. We got our two practices

688
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: in a day. I'll never forget watching the receivers, you know,

689
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Speaker 1: Andre and lockt In. I mean, you know just the

690
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: amount of time that putting catching balls and doing drills

691
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Speaker 1: and we got all our work done. But man, that

692
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: was a close team, and we had a lot of fun.

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00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun. I mean it was

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Speaker 1: it was literally like like you're talking about, Steve no responsibilities,

695
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: played football, you know, have some fun at night. I

696
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: mean it was like it was summer camp and it

697
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: was themar didn't kill us, but we still got all

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Speaker 1: the work down, I thought. So he came out and

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00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: you saw the game the Bills and Carolina Panthers last week,

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Speaker 1: and you had a chance to watch Josh Allen on

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00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: film and and you do a lot of this film

702
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: breakdown stuff, and you know all these quarterbacks that were

703
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: drafted this year, especially those top four guys with Darnold, Rosen,

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00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: uh Mayfield and Alan and they all had warts coming in.

705
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: They all had question marks. And you said, Josh Allen, um,

706
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: you saw some things you really liked about him. Tell

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00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: us about it. I did, Steve Um, you know, I

708
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: watched him coming out of Yoming and and I saw

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00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: the talent, you know, and you kind of draft a

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00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: potential some time. But man, when he played the other night,

711
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: I understand preseason all that kind of stuff. I'll tell

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00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: you this, watching these games this weekend, defenses are not

713
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: vanilla they're not just sitting there uncovered two. They're doing

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00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: a lot because they're getting ready to play. They're playing

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00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: young gunners. I thought Josh played really well. I don't

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Speaker 1: care about his stats. You know, you see the big arm,

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00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: you see you know the sixty and sixty five yard

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00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: bombs that he attempted. How effortless that is. You see

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Speaker 1: some throws. The touchdown throw at the end with a

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00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: minute fifteen seconds ago was dart. You see the athletic

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Speaker 1: ability to get in out of the pocket, extend place,

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Speaker 1: run for from of sounds. You see just the strength

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Speaker 1: that he has. Imagine, think people, if they'll just be

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Speaker 1: patient with this guy. I think there's so much upside

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00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: in so many tools that he has that he's got.

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00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: I think he has a real future. It wasn't too

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Speaker 1: big for him. He was able to get into the huddle,

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Speaker 1: able to get guys lying up that you've got to

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00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: do too much in some place, probably, but you know,

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Speaker 1: this should take something you can you can sort of

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Speaker 1: refine that part of his game going forward. But I

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00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: thought it was a really good debut for a guy

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Speaker 1: that you know, a lot of people did think. You know,

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Speaker 1: the act, the issues at Wyoming and the dump the

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00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: competition that I thought the handle was really well, we're

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Speaker 1: on the line with NFL Network handles probing Baldinger on

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Speaker 1: the subway fresh Take hotline, Ryan, I think I heard

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Speaker 1: you say on NFL Network about Josh's first play, the

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00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: first pass, the first play of the second half, the

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Speaker 1: out of bounds played deep to Foster, where I think

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Speaker 1: I heard you say, all right, that's good. Now let's

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Speaker 1: see you complete that pass, right, that is the logical

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Speaker 1: next step, right, make one of those big plays. Yeah,

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00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: I mean he took two deep shots where look, if

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00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: you're a defensive back playing against Josh Allen this year,

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00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: next year, or whatever, you can't be sitting there, you know,

747
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: thinking about staring in the backfield because that wall should

748
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: go over your head real fast. And so you'd love

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Speaker 1: to see him take the same two or three deep

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00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,919
Speaker 1: shots this week. Well, Kyle Brady doesn't take any of those.

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00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: He might take to a whole season. He throws the

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00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: ball between the numbers and inside the hashes. But if

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00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: you've got that kind of arm, you got to use it.

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00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: I'd love to see him complete one this weekend, you know,

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00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: and against Cleveland and see him connect with. You know

756
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: one of the one of the receivers an steffis Foster

757
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: him a cloud or you know who it is. But

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00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: you'd love to see him complete one of those this weekend.

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00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: Just uh, let people know that this is a real

760
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: gonna be a real viable threat when he's out there,

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00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: and you'd better pay attention. Yeah, one of the other

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00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,479
Speaker 1: players that you looked at not just a deep ball,

763
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: but and it's one that I noticed as well that

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00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: he's his pocket presence. One of the throws he scrambled

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Speaker 1: a little bit actually it's just a little bit out

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Speaker 1: to his left. But what he did was he completed

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00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: this ball to the tight end crewm. But he had

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00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: to stand there and face down a d lineman that

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Speaker 1: had that actually hit him in the chest right after

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00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: he released it. And I think ultimately, you see these

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Speaker 1: young quarterbacks, they don't do that. They won't stand there,

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00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: and Josh did exactly what an NFL quarterback ultimately has

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00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 1: to learn to do. You know, it's interesting to see

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00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 1: that play that's talked about. I put it in there.

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00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: I was with Willie McGinnis and I was asking Willie,

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00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: like he remember was playing against Dud Roethlisberger his rookie

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Speaker 1: year and they got beat in the playoffs I think

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00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: that year, and that was the year that Ben won.

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00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: They won the super Bowl that first year in two

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00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: thousand and four. But Willie said that he was already

781
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: just a bear, you know, in his rookie season. He

782
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: was a hard guy to get to the ground. He

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00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: took some shots and we watched that play together. He's like,

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00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: he said, it reminded him of Ben playing against him

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00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: his rookie year. That you know he's got that body. Well,

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00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: he'll stay in there. He'd take the hit. He didn't

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00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: flix in that pronle and he knew the linebacker was

788
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 1: coming from Carolina and he had to wait till Croom

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00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: kind of you know, got open. He pushed the guy down,

790
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: but he wasn't open to could begin with. He had

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00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: to wait the next year and tick or two, and

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00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: when he did, he's able to make the completion. And

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00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 1: those that kind of sometimes at college Right now, Steve,

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00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: when you evaluate these guys that you never really see

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00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: these guys ever, do you never really have to see

796
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: them because the balls out so fast, but the NFL,

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00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: you gotta wait for some guys to get open. And

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00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: you know, guys to get out of your view and

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00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: obstructed you and all that kind of stuff. And I

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00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: think I've got one player. I think you saw a

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00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: lot right around the line with Brian Balding, your NFL

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00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: network analysts. You broke down Josh. You also broke down

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00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold and his first preseason appearance against the Falcons.

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00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: A lot of people were raving about Darnold's performance last

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00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: Friday night. Brian, what did you see? Well, it was

806
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: it was a lot more conservative than what Josh Allen did,

807
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: but he did show a complete command of the game.

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00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: And the biggest issue for Sam coming out of USC

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00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: he was ball security. And even in the rose Ball

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00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 1: against Ohio State, you know, the balls on the ground

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Speaker 1: twice in that game, and it was an ugly performance

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00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: by USC. And you've got boa, is he ever gonna

813
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: learn this well? Anytime he was under pressure in the

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00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: pocket or escape in the pocket the other day, he

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00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: had both hands on the ball, protecting it really well.

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00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: So you saw that, you saw just the ability just

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00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: to take what the defense gives you. But then there's

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00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: a couple of plays where he really had to play quarterback,

819
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: really read the defense and I thought he really saw

820
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: the field really well, and then the touch that he

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00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: has was exceptional. And what I've been out to the

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Speaker 1: Jets camp. Nothing against Josh McCown or Teddy Bridgewater because

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Speaker 1: I think both of them can play this year in

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00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 1: this league and help a team. But to me, Sam

825
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: looks like he's the best quarterback when I've watched him

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Speaker 1: play this spring and summer. You're talking about the best

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Speaker 1: quarterback for the New York Jets. Yeah, I think I

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00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: think you'll see Sam darn will probably start this weekend

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Speaker 1: against the Redskins, but I think that I think if

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Speaker 1: he if he plays like he did last weekend, or

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Speaker 1: if he even improves the play, I think he's going

832
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Speaker 1: to be the phone runner to start to see right. Hey, Brian,

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00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: thanks for this. Good to spend some time. We do.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate your work on NFL Network and we thank

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Speaker 1: you for spending a few minutes with us today. My pleasure,

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00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: John Steve, I'll see you down the road, bodies. Take

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Speaker 1: care all right, man, travel safe. As Brian Balding your

838
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Speaker 1: NFL Network analysts. You can follow him on Twitter at

839
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: Baldy NFL. You can see him during the week NFL

840
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: Network's NFL Total Access seven o'clock on NFL Network. Brian

841
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: joined us on the Subway Fresh Take Hotline, Subway Eat Fresh,

842
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: Steve and I back with more. We're going to talk

843
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Speaker 1: more about who are the most important players on the roster. Essentially,

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Speaker 1: we want to hear from you eight oh three oh

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Speaker 1: five fifty and toll free one eight eight eight by

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty to defining players on offense and

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Speaker 1: defense for the Bills. That discussion resumes when we come back.

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Kalidah Health from Bill's training

849
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Speaker 1: camp on Buffalo. Bill's Radio. Welcome back camera. If he's

850
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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, Stevens back the vacation. Steve Tasker is back.

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Speaker 1: I will oh no, no, you can't. Actually, I'm worried.

852
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Speaker 1: Deal snack. I just I just retweeted. We had a

853
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Speaker 1: tweet from Dan. He's on Glenn Lake and I'm kayak

854
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: with a fishing poles. Hey, I'm not a brad way

855
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Speaker 1: to listen to One Bill. He's listening to us while

856
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: he's fishing in a kayak on a lake. Why that

857
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: is life? Man? Yeah? Made my next tomorrow on my

858
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Speaker 1: next day off. I'm not taking I'm gonna listen to

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Speaker 1: the show and Fish, I'm gonna listen to the show

860
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: and up here Glen's Falls, New York, Glen Lake up

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00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: there almost in the ad aroundeck. Thanks for tuning in,

862
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: appreciate um. All right, let's talk a little bit about

863
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: where we're at here. We Um just got off the

864
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: phone with Brian Baldinger and uh, yeah, I want to

865
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: talk about this. And we got the Browns obviously coming up.

866
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: And yesterday when you were not here, Steve, I went

867
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Speaker 1: off on a little rant with Brownie about hard knocks,

868
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: that kind of We started a little bit about that

869
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: today and about the Browns how I really don't see

870
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: what they're doing there. And then it almost on Q,

871
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 1: almost like it was meant to be. Jarvis Landry gets

872
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: into a pretty serious practice fight yesterday with defensive back

873
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: Terrence Mitchell and it went on and on and other

874
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: players got involved. Look, I know, Jarvis Landry, what's the

875
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: stat He's caught more passes his first four years than

876
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: anybody in NFL history. I know he's been productive, be

877
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: catching a lot of that short stuff from Tannehill over

878
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: the first four years of his career. Now they're leaning

879
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 1: on him in Cleveland, expect him to be their guy.

880
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: I don't see it because of stuff like this, because

881
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: he's not a good teammate that you didn't see hard Knocks.

882
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: They had inside video of him basically verbally accosting his

883
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: wide receiver teammates about playing hurt or practicing hurt. Hey,

884
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: you got to play him. Some of those guys are

885
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 1: probably hurt, and they don't need to hear the highest

886
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 1: paid guy in the room yell at them for not practicing.

887
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: I don't believe, and they certainly don't need it to

888
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: go national. If he wanted to say that he can

889
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: wait until the Hard Knocks cameras are out. Look, Brown's

890
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: you can't lose sixteen again. I know that. But with

891
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: guys like Jarvis Landry, you're going nowhere. And he proved

892
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: it again yesterday in a really serious, kind of over

893
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: the top training camp fight with his teammate Terrence Mitchell.

894
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: You know, another free agency need. It's some warped way

895
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: he might think he's doing him a favor, like trying

896
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: to get everybody fired up, trying to play tough and

897
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: try and get an edge for his team. That's okay

898
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: if you if the fight's there and it is gone. Well,

899
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: he wouldn't let it go, right, I mean, he had

900
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: kept going and going on. He was like, all right,

901
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: It's like, bro, I got you. That's enough. You know,

902
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: you got on a win to turn that off. And

903
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 1: I think that's yeah, and you're right. I mean, it's

904
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: one thing to be a leader. It's another thing to

905
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 1: bereate your bereate your teammates. That's not the same thing. Awful, Hey,

906
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 1: who's going to be the defining player of the Buffalo

907
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: offense on the Buffalo defense? Tyler around the Line from

908
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: South Buffalo has a thought on this, Tyler, go ahead,

909
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: you're on the air. Hey, how's it going guys? Okay? Yeah, So,

910
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: in my opinion, the most defining player isn't one player.

911
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: It's where every place starts. And that's gonna be with

912
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: the offensive line because I know in the past years

913
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Speaker 1: we have guys that I know I looked up as

914
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Speaker 1: that Jordan Mills, who's gonna be an important player this year.

915
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 1: He was the most penalized player on the team last year,

916
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: and I know that's kind of been an issue with

917
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: him and an important times, you know, taking bad holding calls,

918
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: false starts, and stuff like that. And you know there's

919
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: gonna be some young guys who are gonna have to

920
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: rotate in for the starters on plays like that, who

921
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: can really get exposed against good pass russ as good defenses.

922
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: And if there's guys who talk about how Josh Allen

923
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,720
Speaker 1: could be the most defining player other quarterbacks or Lashawn McCoy,

924
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: it really is going to start with these guys. And

925
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: if these guys can't do it against the better teams,

926
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Speaker 1: then this could end up being not as good of

927
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: a season as we think it could be. Yeah, you're right.

928
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: And when you know, if you're gonna take five guys

929
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: off the starting eleven offensive players, you got to say

930
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: that's a pretty important group. But it's almost half the

931
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: guys on the field. But and I agree with you,

932
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: but here's the thing. There's only one young guy in

933
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: my mind that has a real shot at making this roster,

934
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: and that's Wyatt Teller, who's who's playing guard behind John

935
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Speaker 1: Miller and vladdu Coss along with the rest of the roster.

936
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Speaker 1: But here's the thing. I don't agree with you when

937
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: you say that it's gonna be maybe a young offense

938
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Speaker 1: and it's not John Miller, Jordan Mills, Russell Bodine, Ryan Groy,

939
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Speaker 1: vladdu Coss and Deon Dawkins. Deon Dawkins is the youngest

940
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: guy in there, and he's your starting left tackle. All

941
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: those other guys have got a lot of miles, not

942
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: a lot, but certainly some some played. They've started, They've

943
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,439
Speaker 1: started games, They've started games in multiple year. John Miller

944
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 1: started for two years. Jordan Mills is going into his

945
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 1: second or third year as a starter. You know, Marshall Newhouse,

946
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: all those guys. Those are the guys you're looking at

947
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: that actually have a shot to play a lot. And

948
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: it's Russell Bodine, Ryan Groy, down inside Wyatt teller is

949
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: a swing guy, and maybe DeAndre Wesley. Yeah, it's a

950
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: swing guy. I can say. I disagree. I think there's

951
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: more than teller Beck there. DeAndre Wesley in particularly just

952
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: played guard and tackle. He has a chance to play.

953
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: And once again today Sean McDermott asked about the battle

954
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,240
Speaker 1: between Bodeon and Ryan Groy. He took it to Adam Redman,

955
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: the first year player they picked up a year ago

956
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: from Harvard Um. So there are a couple other young

957
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: guys who may be in the picture here, either on

958
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: the fifty three or on the practice squad. And I think,

959
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: but I think too that that that offensive there's no

960
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: question if the offensive line plays really well this year.

961
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: The reason you know they're playing well is because the

962
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: offense is effective. They can run it and they can

963
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: protect the passer, and that's it, and that's all they

964
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: need to do. If they can do those two things,

965
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,479
Speaker 1: if Lashawn McCoy's you know, averaging you know, one hundred

966
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 1: yards a game of buck ten a game, you're gonna

967
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: be you're really doing well, and that's gonna that's gonna

968
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: be the identity of the team. But listen, that's the

969
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: way it is on team. I don't think if your

970
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 1: offensive lines, yeah, we didn't. We didn't do this so

971
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: you could pick half the offense as their defining factor. Um,

972
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta choose, right, Bums me out. You

973
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: can't just say yea, the offense is gonna be the

974
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: defining factor of the offense. I don't think. So you

975
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: can't pick us, Yeah, pick somebody, come on, we'll do

976
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: more with it. More than I agree with you, the

977
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: offensive I'm missing. I'm a big fan of offensive lineman.

978
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: They're they're awesome, and you can't you can't live without

979
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,439
Speaker 1: a good one, So I get it, but you can't

980
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: pick all of them. Who's the defining player on offense

981
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: and on defense. We'll do more of that in the

982
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: oncoming hour. Plus we're gonna talk with an offensive lineman,

983
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: maybe the best of them, Deon Dawkins, gonna join us.

984
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: An interview we did just before we went on the

985
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: air today while they were doing hockey talk up here

986
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: Deon Dawkins. I didn't say anything. Jay, the producer looks

987
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: at me like I didn't say anything. They were doing

988
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: hockey talks. So we took down over there and talk

989
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: to him. He's gonna join us coming up in the

990
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: next hour as well. And who do you got give

991
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: us a call? Lines open eight oh three oh five

992
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: fifty and toll free one eight eight eight five fifty

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00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: two five fifty the defining player on offense and the

994
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: defining player on the Bills defense this season. Yes, sir,

995
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: you're talking and looking out of the corner of your

996
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: eye over Jay Harris like you're gonna get in trouble.

997
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: He whispering in class caught don't show anything at another

998
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: hour ago. Anytime Murph mentions hockey on the show, you

999
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: can sense the bitterness. I'm not bitter. There's a place

1000
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: for hockey. There's definitely a place for hockey. Your season

1001
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: ticket old you know that. Is this the place for hockey?

1002
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: That's what I'm asking, I would say now. One Bill's

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Speaker 1: Live presented by Collada Health from Bill's training camp on

1004
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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radiofalo Hills Radio Networks Stories Update The update

1005
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: from Buffalo Bill's training camp. The Bills wrapped up training

1006
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,479
Speaker 1: camp today a morning practice in the Rochester sunshine, another

1007
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: big crowd on the hand. Veteran AJ McCarron got the

1008
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: first team reps. Rookie first rounder Josh Allen worked with

1009
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: the two's. Nathan Peterman got worked with a third team

1010
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: for the most part today, Head coach Sean McDermott not

1011
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: ready yet to announce who Hill start in preseason game

1012
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 1: number two. He may not announce it. The Bills focused

1013
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: on the run game and much of their team work today,

1014
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: using offensive formations with extra tight ends. They kept receiver

1015
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: Brandon Riley on the sidelines again. He continues to deal

1016
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: with the rib injury. Defensive end Trent Murphy still out

1017
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: with a growing injury. Receiver Ray Ray McCloud practice, but

1018
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: he practiced on a non contact jersey, and defensive tackle

1019
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 1: Mark A. Bus lewis out with an injury as well.

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Speaker 1: They will walk through a workout at One Bill's Drive tomorrow,

1021
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: then leave in the afternoon for Cleveland preseason game number

1022
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 1: two the Bills in the Browns Friday night, seven thirty.

1023
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: You can hear the game in our flagship in Buffalo

1024
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: WGR Sports, WJR Sports Radio five fifty. Myself and Mark

1025
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 1: Kelso in the boot, Salca Faco in the sidelines. The

1026
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 1: Steelers have Ben Roethlisberger in concussion protocol. He's sustained to

1027
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,919
Speaker 1: hit early in yesterday's practice. Doctors evaluating the six time

1028
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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl performer Roethlisberger fell to the turf at Latrow

1029
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: Memorial Stadium. Right tackle Marcus Gilbert says Roethlisberger was rolling

1030
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: to the right side and ran into another linebacker. He

1031
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: got up on his own, talking with teammates and trainers,

1032
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Speaker 1: but Roethlisberger is in concussion protocol. Browns key wide receiver

1033
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Speaker 1: Antonio Callaway had a lot of work this past week

1034
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Speaker 1: trying to earn back the trust and respect of his

1035
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: teammates after being cited for a marijuana possession and driving

1036
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Speaker 1: with a suspended license. But he earned the work according

1037
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Speaker 1: to a number one overall pick, Baker Mayfield. Mayfield says

1038
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: Antonio Callaway has earned his respect and he's happy to

1039
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Speaker 1: have him on the field, and Broncos general manager John Elway,

1040
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,479
Speaker 1: even with Chad Kelly promoted a number two, Elway says

1041
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,280
Speaker 1: he's still in the market. May be on the lookout

1042
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: for a veteran quarterback on the free agent market. That's

1043
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: the update from Bill's training field. Oh a good time

1044
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Speaker 1: of ute, Tasper b bus do time. Welcome back to

1045
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Speaker 1: Saint John Fisher in College. Our final broadcast here at

1046
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Speaker 1: the Fisher is Bill's lapping enough training camp. It strikes me,

1047
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: see if there's more activity now the camp is over

1048
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: as of a couple of hours ago. More activity going

1049
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: out around us now than any other day after a

1050
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: morning practice, you know what I mean? They are generally

1051
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: tearing it down, tearing it down as we speak, right.

1052
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Speaker 1: I mean, the equipment is pretty much out of the

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Speaker 1: weight room. They are tearing down camp, and this place

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Speaker 1: is going to look like a college campus within a

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Speaker 1: couple of hours. Yeah, it took them a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks or I don't know, a week maybe to get

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Speaker 1: everything over and what we say, it's eighteen semi truck loads,

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Speaker 1: twenty four square panel trucks and you know eight or

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Speaker 1: ten flatbed trailers that took them to get over there. Boy,

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Speaker 1: they load them up and get out. They well, you know,

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Speaker 1: you think about it, they're moving back. Camp doesn't stop.

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Speaker 1: It's just not here at Saint John Fisher. They're back

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Speaker 1: in Orchard Park and they're hitting it hard there just

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Speaker 1: like they are here, and they need everything set up

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Speaker 1: there as quickly as they can get it. Yeah, they've

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Speaker 1: got to walk through tomorrow and then the game of

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Speaker 1: course in Cleveland on Friday, I believe Saturday off. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if fill them in about the rest of

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Speaker 1: our week. We got this. We got this day today

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Speaker 1: here at Saint John Fisher. Tomorrow we'll be back at

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Speaker 1: one Bill's Drive right then after that, you and I

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Speaker 1: we're road tripping right trip, You me and our producer

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Speaker 1: Jay Harris. We're going to Cleveland. We're gonna do Friday

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Speaker 1: show from Cleveland. Where where are we doing our show

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Speaker 1: from Cleveland? Hilton hotel joing the Hilton Hotel in Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: and then we'll do the game and Friday night, Well,

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Speaker 1: that'll be a long day. Fly back private one day.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a long day. Hey, we want you

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Speaker 1: to join us and let us know who do you

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Speaker 1: think the defining players are for the Buffalo Bills this season? Season?

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Speaker 1: Long answer here? On offense? Who do you got? On defense?

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Speaker 1: Who do you have on offense? My defining player is

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Speaker 1: josh Allen, Steves is Lashan McCoy. On defense, my defining

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Speaker 1: player is Tremaine Edmonds and Steves is also Tremaine Edmonds.

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Speaker 1: But you don't have a different idea. The defining player

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Speaker 1: the one who determines what kind of a season we're

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Speaker 1: looking at. Give us a call eight oh three five

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Speaker 1: fifty toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two

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Speaker 1: five fifty, or you can do it on Twitter at

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Speaker 1: one Bills Live. The defining player for the Bills. I

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Speaker 1: think it's a really interesting question about what should be

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Speaker 1: really interesting season. Yeah, because I think it it asks

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00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 1: you to decide what you think it's gonna look like.

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Speaker 1: You know what the team's going to look like, and

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Speaker 1: you know you say Tremaine Edmonds. Both of us, both

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Speaker 1: you and I begrudgingly agreed it with each other, but

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Speaker 1: we both believe it's gonna be Tremaine Edmonds. And you think,

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Speaker 1: interestingly enough, he's like the centerpiece of a linebacking corps

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Speaker 1: that still has some question marks, you know, Tremaine Bendman's

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Speaker 1: how's he gonna plays? A first year guy? Certainly he's

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Speaker 1: physically gifted, but he's he's twenty. Is he really gonna

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Speaker 1: be the kind of player that it looks like he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be, you know, and it you know, and maybe

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Speaker 1: in five years we're gonna say, how could we have

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00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: ever doubted him? But now there's reason too. We've seen

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Speaker 1: other players have all those gifts and not do it.

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Speaker 1: He's also surrounded by Lorenzo Alexander, who's our good friend buddy.

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Speaker 1: He's you know, this is a he's a veteran linebacker

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00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 1: who's gonna be asked to be in there and hold

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Speaker 1: up his end of it as well. And Matt Melano,

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Speaker 1: who you know, he's had a nice season last year,

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Speaker 1: but this is a big question mark group. And you've

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Speaker 1: got you get past those guys. You got guys like

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Speaker 1: Ramone Humber and uh, you can go down the list,

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Speaker 1: but I think the linebackers are a big question mark

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Speaker 1: headlined by you know, a high draft pick who is unproven.

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Speaker 1: It's I think if you're gonna ask who defines the season,

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Speaker 1: I think that's a great place to go. It goes

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on that. The lines open at eight h

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Speaker 1: three oh five fifty and toll free one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty from the tweet sheet

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Speaker 1: and answer this question, who is the defining player offense

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Speaker 1: defense for the Bills? From sipping the kool eight, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna respond in two categories for both offense and defense,

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Speaker 1: visible and non visible. What does that means? For the defense,

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Speaker 1: the visible will be Edmonds and the non visible Lotu

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Speaker 1: La lay On offense, the visible will be McCoy and

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Speaker 1: the non visible is Dable. I think I know what

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Speaker 1: he means. So who's a parent as the defining player

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Speaker 1: on defense? He says it's Edmunds on defense. The I

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Speaker 1: want to say invisible, but the one who might not

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Speaker 1: pop out as leto lay on offense, He's got McCoy

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Speaker 1: and Dable the non visible. Yeah, La is a great

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Speaker 1: is a great answer, because you're right, he's gonna be in.

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Speaker 1: He's not going to jump out on the staf sheet.

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Speaker 1: Loto l in his best year ever, is not gonna

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Speaker 1: get ten sacks. He's not gonna probably get five sacks.

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Speaker 1: He's he's gonna be He's gonna get blocked by two

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Speaker 1: guys every single play of the season, and hopefully it'll

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Speaker 1: be free up a guy like Tremaine Edmonds to run

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Speaker 1: free to the football and make tackles. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: the idea and that's the way these defenses work. But

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Speaker 1: he's also a guy who can rec have it and

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Speaker 1: the havoc in the run game by getting penetration and

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Speaker 1: getting into the other opponent's backfield not to make the tackle,

1146
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: but to force the running back to go away from

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Speaker 1: the design of the play into the arms of another tackler.

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Speaker 1: You know. So, Star Lotulele, they signed him for a reason.

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Speaker 1: They need guys like him, like Kyle Williams, like Harrison Phillips.

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Speaker 1: You gotta have him. They're not going to jump out

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Speaker 1: as statistic players. But when he says invisible, I think

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Speaker 1: that's exactly what he means. They're gonna show up and

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be as appreciated by their teammates and coaches

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Speaker 1: as anybody. Let's don't you think line fifty on this

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Speaker 1: final day of training camp will kind of take stock

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Speaker 1: of where the Bills are and who the difference makers

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Speaker 1: might be. Sean McDermot talked about that a little bit today.

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Speaker 1: He met the media this morning eight fifteen this morning,

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Speaker 1: head coach of the Buffalo Bills, wrapping up his second

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Speaker 1: training campus, head coach of the Bills, and he was asked,

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Speaker 1: how did your team develop? What did you think about

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Speaker 1: the way your team came together during the second training camp.

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Speaker 1: Here's what Sean McDermott had to say to that question. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: as I mentioned, I mentioned to them this morning that

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Speaker 1: this is one of the more focused, hardest working groups,

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Speaker 1: harder working groups that I've been around. Does that mean

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Speaker 1: we're going to have success and no guarantee, but when

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Speaker 1: you can check those boxes and know that we came

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Speaker 1: to camp and and I thought the leadership the player

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Speaker 1: during leadership in particular was really good and allowed us

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Speaker 1: to stay focused and to put in a good a

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Speaker 1: good day's work each and every day. And that's all

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Speaker 1: you can ask for at this point. As we continue

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Speaker 1: to focus on the process of what leads us up

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Speaker 1: to the season. Sean McDermot speaking to the media today,

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Speaker 1: all that stuff, Steve, I'm gonna make a confession. A

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00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: year ago, Sean talked like that about, you know, player

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Speaker 1: driven leadership and focusing on the process. A year ago

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Speaker 1: that sort of washed over me. I thought, whatever he

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00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,359
Speaker 1: means it and it works. I saw it last year.

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Speaker 1: I saw how he got control and commanded this team,

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Speaker 1: and the process is important to him. We know it's

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00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: a joke or respect the process. I know you laugh

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00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: when you hear it, you shake your head, you you know,

1185
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 1: maybe do a shot every time process comes up. Whatever.

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00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: I get that it's not you know, it's not that

1187
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: it's funny, but you think yourself, what is he talking about.

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Speaker 1: It's real to him, and it's real to his players,

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Speaker 1: the process and the player driven leadership, and I saw

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Speaker 1: it worked last year. I have absolutely no doubt it

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Speaker 1: will work again this year. I'm not saying this is

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Speaker 1: a fourteen win team, but they're going to be better

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Speaker 1: than what you might think. What you might think the

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Speaker 1: roster indicates because of that kind of stuff, because of

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Speaker 1: player driven leadership and the process, and that their focus

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Speaker 1: if you if someone asked me, and someone did ask

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Speaker 1: me yesterday was driving down here, my cousin and all.

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Speaker 1: But he said to me, what kind of a campus it? Benn,

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Speaker 1: I said, you know what it's been. It's been business like,

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Speaker 1: it's been focused. Right, you agree, And I think that's

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Speaker 1: what you get with Every so often we've we've gone

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Speaker 1: back to it about how buttoned up this training camp is.

1203
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: And you and and um you get a chance to

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00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: hear Dion Dawkins talk about you know, there's a there's

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Speaker 1: a schedule, morning, noon, and night. Man, they they've got

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Speaker 1: these guys, you know, occupied doing important, meaningful things all

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Speaker 1: the way through the day. And meaningful is also going

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Speaker 1: down to getting some rest, getting some a little bit

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Speaker 1: of time off, getting fifteen minutes of sleep or lift,

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Speaker 1: scheduled meetings, scheduled eating, and it is. It is long,

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Speaker 1: grueling days, and it's easy for old guys like me

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Speaker 1: who went through training camps. And it's easy even as

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Speaker 1: as easy as and lightweight as Marv Levy training camps

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Speaker 1: notoriously were. You're still practicing two days, twice a day,

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00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: and and all old guys say, wow, you guys are

1216
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: just practicing once a day and listen, their day is full.

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00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: It's not like they get practice and they can do

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Speaker 1: like like we used to do in the old days

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Speaker 1: and go off and do our own thing for a

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Speaker 1: couple hours. Go. You don't get to do it. They're

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Speaker 1: they're meeting and they're learning, and it's a classroom atmosphere.

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Speaker 1: And that's a big change, and not to have it

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Speaker 1: all here's the buy in is unbelievable for this And

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Speaker 1: that's the one thing I noticed, Murph. The buy in

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Speaker 1: from all these players is unbelievable. And it starts with

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Speaker 1: the type of guys they sign. It's sign starts with

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Speaker 1: the type of guys they sign as free agents, the

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Speaker 1: guys they draft, you know, and the leadership that they

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Speaker 1: bring in and the guys they keep, guys like Kyle Williams,

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Speaker 1: Jordan Poia, micro Hide, all these guys. It makes a big,

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Speaker 1: big difference. When the best players on the roster are

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Speaker 1: working really hard and they're all engaged, and they're doing

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Speaker 1: all the little things and they're going the extra mile

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Speaker 1: and they're helping their teammates, it permeates the whole roster.

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Speaker 1: Even at the bottom of the roster, guys are trying

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Speaker 1: to help the top of the roster guys and vice versa.

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Speaker 1: It's it's an atmosphere that's really product and that's I

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Speaker 1: think that's been the hallmark of this training camp and

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Speaker 1: it's been pretty encouraging to see camp is over. Steve

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Speaker 1: and I have a couple of awards to discuss, and

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Speaker 1: coming up a little bit later in the show, we'll

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Speaker 1: go through our all Fisher team at each position. By

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Speaker 1: the way, Dean Dawkins going to join us at the

1244
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Speaker 1: bottom of this hour. Love to hear from you. Maybe

1245
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: you were here at camp and you have thoughts on

1246
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 1: these awards eight oh three, oh five fifty and toll

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Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: So ten or twelve practices down here, we've seen most

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Speaker 1: of them, if not all of them. Offensive MVP for

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Speaker 1: Bill's training camp, Steve, I'm not talking about Monday's game,

1251
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 1: that's not on the table, but day in, day out,

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Speaker 1: down here at Fisher, your offensive most valuable player here

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Speaker 1: at training camp. I'm gonna go first, okay, because I

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Speaker 1: have a hard time with this one. Go ahead, and

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Speaker 1: the easy one is I would see McCoy and he's

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Speaker 1: been the best player on offense. He doesn't get a

1257
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Speaker 1: ton of work here, but he's been the best player.

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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna go with Calvin Benjamin, who, to me,

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Speaker 1: routine Lee would get himself open, would if he dropped

1260
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: a pass here at camp I didn't see it. A

1261
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: lot of red zone action for Calvin Benjamin, a lot

1262
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 1: of petition, a lot of contested passes throwing Calvin Benjamin's

1263
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: way that he came up with, which is really the

1264
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 1: way it's going to play out during the course of

1265
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 1: the regular season game. So for my offensive MVP, I

1266
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 1: got the KB Calvin Benjamin. Yeah, and to be and

1267
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: I hate to say it, but oh no, there's no

1268
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 1: other choice. He's the guy. Really, Yeah, I agree. I

1269
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: think he's the guy. See Leshaun McCoy, no questions, he's

1270
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 1: the most dependable player. He's got all this stuff going

1271
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: for him. It but they Leshaun McCoy, I mean, they've

1272
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 1: kind of got him a little bit. In bubble Rap.

1273
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: He took some raps, no question about it, and he

1274
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 1: did some things, but it wasn't like they were handing

1275
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 1: him the ball in practice. Fifteen times they were looking

1276
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 1: at guys and the guys they were looking at that

1277
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 1: needed to and let's face it, with three guys throwing

1278
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 1: the football out there, Calvin Benjamin's got a lot of

1279
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 1: arms to get used to, a lot of different looks

1280
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: coming out and he's risen up. And you can tell

1281
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: we talked about it in there in the run up,

1282
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 1: in the OTAs in the mini camp. He came back.

1283
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: He's ready to play and in shape. He had a

1284
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 1: great game first series or two the other night. Yeah,

1285
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: there's no other and for me, I think it's a

1286
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: it's a runaway. Kelvin Benjamin is the most most valuable

1287
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 1: offensive player in this training camp. Now it's not over.

1288
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 1: They're gonna go back to Orchard Park, but training camps over.

1289
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: He's he is. He has really distinguished himself for me

1290
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways this camp. I wish we

1291
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 1: had little medals to give to these guys. You know

1292
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: these awards something, Come on, man, this is it's kind

1293
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: of lame. Just give him a pair of socks or

1294
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 1: give him an ob l T shirt, Right, we got

1295
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: some of these. We gotta give him some swag, kind

1296
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 1: of get our own stuff to give away. Yeah, defensive

1297
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: MVP for training camp. Steve and I going through this

1298
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 1: camp watching most of not all of the practices, you

1299
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 1: go first on this one. Who is your defensive most

1300
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:42,439
Speaker 1: valuable player here? I think the defensive most valuable players

1301
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 1: to Davious White. Um, I think from the and I've

1302
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 1: said this a couple of times. First snap of competitive

1303
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 1: football and training camp for Davious White breaks up a past,

1304
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 1: almost picks it and goes pick six right off the battle.

1305
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: He was and through the first three or four days

1306
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: of camp, and it has continued throughout training camp. He

1307
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 1: looks I mean razor sharp. I mean he looks yea,

1308
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 1: he looks I mean shiny, new, polished, finished, razor sharp.

1309
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 1: Let's go line him up today. He'll go sixteen games

1310
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be the best corner on the field

1311
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: in whoever the best in the league. But he is

1312
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: he I would say Tredavious White, just because of the

1313
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 1: offseason he had work. Sometimes they was overlooked a little bit,

1314
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: and he had a great year last year, and but

1315
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 1: he came back. And I mean from I mean from

1316
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 1: snap one through training camp he was my guy. He

1317
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 1: I had him down as a possibility here defensive most

1318
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: valuable player, but instead I went for an unheralded guy

1319
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 1: probably an unknown guy to many Bills fans, who has

1320
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 1: had an outstanding camp around the ball all the time.

1321
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 1: Raphael Bush, former New Orleans Saints safety, who Look, we

1322
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 1: talked with Brownie about it the other day. They may

1323
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: be in the market here. I don't know if it's

1324
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 1: markets where they may be in the process of designing

1325
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 1: a defense that gets Bush out there with the other

1326
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 1: two safeties, with player and with Micah Hyde. That's how

1327
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: good Bush has been. Brownie said he saw some evidence

1328
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 1: of that watching some plays. You know, it could be

1329
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 1: like a big nickel tech defense where Bush plays, you know,

1330
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: an extra defensive back. He's that good, He's that aware

1331
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 1: where the ball is and making plays. I got Raphael

1332
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 1: Bush is my defensive MVP. Listen, it's hard to get

1333
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: a coaching staff to notice you enough, trust you enough,

1334
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 1: and know what they're looking at enough to say, you

1335
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 1: know what we need to put a defense in for

1336
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 1: that guy. Yeah, that's big And that's how good hit

1337
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 1: Raphael Bush has played this year, no question about. You're right,

1338
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 1: and he is a he's a great He's a great

1339
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 1: candidate for that, no doubt. And it's no surprise that

1340
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 1: both our guys that you can pick who you want

1341
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 1: out there listening to us. But our guys are both

1342
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 1: in the defensive backbeat because that continues to be that

1343
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: continues to be a yeah, the anchor of that defense.

1344
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 1: Those guys back there, I mean you go, you can

1345
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 1: go down the list. They can play. They can all

1346
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 1: really go and uh, even the guys behind him, although

1347
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 1: they have some things to to prove. Oh man, it's

1348
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 1: they They got a group of guys that's a hard

1349
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 1: roster to break into in that defensive second. By the way,

1350
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 1: if you want to add to our nominees for these awards,

1351
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 1: feel Free ringing in eight oh three fifty and toll

1352
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: Free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty

1353
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 1: awards for training camp, which wrapped up a couple of

1354
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 1: hours ago. Practice got finished about ten fifteen today. Best

1355
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 1: rookie here a training camp. I had a hard time

1356
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 1: with this one. They've been a lot of good ones.

1357
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 1: Who's gonna go first? Here? Um? I can okay, all right,

1358
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say the rookie that I'm let me go.

1359
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to Harrison Phillips. You took too long,

1360
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 1: all right? I got Harrison Phillips. Horrible Harry um. First

1361
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 1: of all, the versatility on display. He's he's played the

1362
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:52,919
Speaker 1: one technique, he's played the three technique. Over the weekend.

1363
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 1: Star La Tulay got a little banged up in the

1364
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 1: preseason game Thursday, so he wasn't available. They held him

1365
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 1: out the Friday and Sunday on Monday, I believe Harrison

1366
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 1: Phillips boom there is he's your one technique. When Kyle

1367
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: Williams gets a veteran day off, boom, Harrison Phillips, he's

1368
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 1: your three technique. Um, he's always um around the ball,

1369
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 1: he's always hustling. I see him work. They work him

1370
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 1: in a little bit on special teams. Uh. Look, there's

1371
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: some good rookies here, but Tremaine Edmonds is one of them.

1372
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is one of them. But I got the third.

1373
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 1: Harrison Phillips, he's my best rookie at camp. All Right,

1374
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with of all the rookies and then

1375
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 1: we've got there's a ton of them in camp, no

1376
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 1: question about it. I'm gonna go with Why I was

1377
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 1: gonna go, that's too that's too much off the radar.

1378
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 1: I can't do it. Um, what I was gonna I

1379
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 1: was gonna say, Mike Love, no, that's not yeah, Mike, No,

1380
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 1: he's not. Yes, Mike Love, the first year player, the

1381
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 1: pass rusher. He's not a rookie though, first year. We'll

1382
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 1: give you that, all right. I'm gonna say that because

1383
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 1: he's a guy that has flashed because of his pass

1384
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 1: rush abilities, and he's a he is a rookie, not

1385
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 1: a first year. I just think that's a guy that,

1386
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 1: like last year, where you get these guys to flash

1387
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 1: like it, like Brandon Riley, like like some of these

1388
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 1: guys do. This is a guy like he was here.

1389
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 1: He was here at the end of last year, but

1390
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 1: this would be as That's just I don't know if

1391
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 1: I can count him as a rookie though, now that

1392
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 1: I'm fumbling all over myselfie, all right, then that's who

1393
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 1: I go. I like him. I've watched him and I've

1394
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 1: I've been intrigued by his playmaking abilities. He's an athlete,

1395
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 1: and I think at a group that you know, they

1396
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 1: need a guy like him to step up, and I

1397
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 1: think he's going to. He's a defensive end, and I

1398
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 1: just I like him. I think you're gonna see him

1399
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 1: in this preseason and in fact, you're gonna see him

1400
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 1: this preseason, next couple of games, I think, watch him

1401
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 1: watch my club and bunch improved me right, Steve and

1402
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 1: I going through our camp awards as camp comes to

1403
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 1: an end. We've got a few. You're welcome to phone

1404
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 1: in yours at eight oh three five fifty and toll

1405
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

1406
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 1: How about this one Bill's Training Camp Award come Back Player,

1407
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 1: come Back Player of the Camp. I got a guy

1408
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 1: I wish I could say was the guy who was

1409
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 1: not and who I actually am going to vote for

1410
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:05,439
Speaker 1: for a comeback player. I wish I could say Trent

1411
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 1: Murphy coming back from serious knee surgery, you know, torn

1412
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 1: knee ligaments. But now he's out with a groin missed

1413
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 1: again today. I'm a little worried. Quite frankly, I'm a

1414
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 1: little worried that he'll be available. They gotta get him healthy,

1415
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 1: they gotta make sure he's ready to go. Comeback player

1416
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 1: for me, though, my real vote, and you know, don't

1417
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 1: don't be surprised by the Steve, but my real vote

1418
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 1: is a guy who's not coming off injury, but he's

1419
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 1: coming off maybe an extended time on the bench John Miller,

1420
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 1: who has reclaimed his NFL career. John Miller was a

1421
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 1: starter for most of two years here and then got

1422
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 1: lost in the shuffle last year, fell out of favor

1423
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 1: with whomever. I didn't even know what happened. They had

1424
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 1: Richie obviously, they had du cost at the right guard spot.

1425
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 1: John Miller back of the lineup as a starter at

1426
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 1: right guard, and he's looked good. I got John Miller

1427
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,639
Speaker 1: as my comeback player of this camp, all right, I think,

1428
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 1: And my guy's not I would say he's a comeback player,

1429
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,719
Speaker 1: but I think he's Do we have a surprise player?

1430
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 1: Is that coming up? We can create an do that

1431
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 1: because this is the guy. Here's the thing. I think

1432
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 1: Jason Crum is gonna be a guy. Is the guy.

1433
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 1: I mean, he was signed as a rookie undrafted free

1434
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 1: agent last year. Nobody knew who he was. He's gonna

1435
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 1: not only make the team, he may be the number

1436
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 1: two tight end on this roster. He is gonna play

1437
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 1: and play a lot. He and Logan Thomas have emerged

1438
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 1: as guys who are able to play tight end in

1439
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 1: the NFL. They can block big, big, heavy dudes, They

1440
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 1: can catch pass routes and get separation. I have really

1441
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:31,639
Speaker 1: been impressed with Jason crum Is. Every time I look

1442
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 1: out there, the guy's doing something and I'm I was

1443
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 1: for a guy who was around but didn't you know

1444
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, wasn't injured or anything like that. But

1445
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 1: I think he was a surprising bounce back guy to

1446
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 1: come in and have the kind of camp that he

1447
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:51,560
Speaker 1: has has been. I think, you know, really really surprising.

1448
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 1: Our training camp awards here at one bills a couple

1449
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 1: of interesting questions here. You know, you come to camp

1450
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 1: three weeks ago. Tomorrow will be three weeks that you

1451
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 1: come to camp with questions. Can they do this? Can

1452
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 1: they do that? Can this guy play? Can that guy play?

1453
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 1: Here's here's this category Bill's training camp. The question that

1454
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 1: has been answered in the last three weeks? What question

1455
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 1: has been answered in the last three weeks? I guess

1456
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 1: affirmatively you would think, what do you meant? Well? I

1457
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 1: think you and I agree with this. It's the offensive

1458
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 1: line and those guys, those guys are I am really

1459
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 1: impressed with them. They've got a great vibe. We talked

1460
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:29,640
Speaker 1: with Dion Dawkins today, who's a phenomenal phenomenal guy to

1461
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 1: get to know, but also the quality of guys that

1462
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 1: step in there and take reps. No matter who's in there,

1463
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 1: all five guys too deep at least are quality guys,

1464
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm impressed with im. I think there's a chance.

1465
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go out and say make all

1466
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 1: these bold predictions. It's not the time for that. But

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01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 1: there's a chance that this offensive line could be as

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01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 1: a huge part of the success of this team this year.

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01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 1: Is as and even as much as the secondary was

1470
01:10:57,800 --> 01:10:59,759
Speaker 1: a year ago for the defense, I think the offensive

1471
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 1: line this year is going to be a huge surprise

1472
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 1: for the positive for this team. I think I think

1473
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 1: they've got the guys that can do it this year.

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01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 1: I got offensive line as well as the question answered

1475
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 1: now unanswered question? What question just did not get answered

1476
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 1: here over the last three weeks of training camp. I

1477
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:17,639
Speaker 1: have to say, I think this is pretty obvious, Steve.

1478
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 1: It's the question that gets asked every day. It's a

1479
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 1: question that people ask you when you walk down the street.

1480
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:25,600
Speaker 1: I was camp, who's going to start a quarterback? To me,

1481
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,600
Speaker 1: it's fairly obvious that is the unanswered question. Yet I

1482
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 1: think coming out of camp we have an answer, No,

1483
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:33,600
Speaker 1: but I do think we are days away from an

1484
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 1: answer on who's the September ninth starter. I really do.

1485
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 1: I think following this game coming up Friday early into

1486
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 1: next week, we'll have a pretty good sense, if not

1487
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 1: a definitive answer, a pretty good sense of where they're

1488
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 1: going to quarterback. But that is unanswered. Still. Do you

1489
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 1: have that for your Unabsolutely? Yeah, And I think you're

1490
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 1: right about the timeline. You may not get an answer,

1491
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:54,599
Speaker 1: but you may be able to discern what they're thinking

1492
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 1: by the reps and the way things are going. If

1493
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 1: they open up some of these practices to the media

1494
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 1: and we'll be able to see they make ryan and

1495
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 1: keep it under wraps. But the third preseason game will

1496
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 1: probably tell you all you need to know. But that

1497
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 1: is the great unanswered question. A close second might be

1498
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you could make an argument for depth at linebacker.

1499
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, not everybody knows who is going

1500
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 1: to be Lorenzo, Alexander, Tremaine, Edmonds, Matt Milano with the

1501
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 1: top three, but then you've got Dion Lacy, Jasus stand Roman,

1502
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 1: Ramon Humber, and then you're down to Keenan Robinson, who

1503
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 1: they signed right at the beginning of the camp. Tanner

1504
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 1: Vallejo back for his second year with the Bills, Corey Thompson,

1505
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 1: Xavier Woodson, Luster. I mean, that's not household names, and

1506
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 1: it's a little bit like it is with the receiving

1507
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:41,639
Speaker 1: corps with Calvin Benjamin at the top. He got Tremaine

1508
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 1: Edmonds at the top, although Lorenzo Alexander is not that

1509
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 1: much of a drop if you expect Lorenzo to come

1510
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 1: out and play well. But man, oh man, there's two.

1511
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 1: You need about six or seven of them the other

1512
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 1: and I agree with then linebacker a secondary unanswered question.

1513
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 1: I think receiving corps is an unanswered question after Benjamin

1514
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 1: and maybe Curly, But I do think you're in the

1515
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 1: process of getting there. With the return of Zay Jones

1516
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 1: this week, they're getting all kinds of playing time now

1517
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 1: for Corey Coleman. They're gonna get through a decision on

1518
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:11,640
Speaker 1: who their top three four receivers are I think in

1519
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 1: the next week or so. Yeah, And it's been the

1520
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 1: word coming out is that Zay Jones was plugged right

1521
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 1: back into the number two spots when he came back.

1522
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not going anywhere so that at least

1523
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 1: in the coach's mind. I think that's where they're starting

1524
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 1: from now that he's healthy and back. I think you

1525
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 1: plug him in and they're gonna they're ready to go.

1526
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 1: And so if you go with Benjamin Curly Jones, at

1527
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 1: least they've got their three guys. Yeah, those are our

1528
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 1: camp Awards coming up in the next hour. We're gonna

1529
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 1: talk a little bit more about our All Fisher team.

1530
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 1: In the meantime, let's hear from you full Night's open

1531
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 1: eight oh three h five fifty and toll free one

1532
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 1: eight eight eight by fifty two five fifty. Trent's been

1533
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 1: waiting on the line from Rochester. Go ahead, Trent, you're

1534
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 1: on the air. Guys, A great show. Three Welcome back

1535
01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 1: West and I tell you what the process like, God

1536
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 1: you were staying earlier. I really trust it and I

1537
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 1: believe that it's going to produce better teams than they

1538
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 1: had last year. I'm harting to be the size and

1539
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 1: speed it lie receiver m and a lot of your tough,

1540
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 1: britty play. Brian Dable is my X factor. I'm starting

1541
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 1: to see New England philosophies work Buffalo. So there's a

1542
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 1: lot of players that I'm really excited about. Steve mentioned

1543
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 1: Logan Thomas, those guys. You know, you could go down

1544
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 1: the line if the process is having a great effect

1545
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:38,640
Speaker 1: on the whole roster. They're very tough, very competitive. I

1546
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 1: can't wite to see how it shakes out, guys, but

1547
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 1: I know that I'm looking at a better team than

1548
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:47,680
Speaker 1: I did last year. That's that's okay, thanks Trent. And

1549
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 1: this is my point of a process. The process is real.

1550
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 1: I think Trent agrees with that too. You know, you

1551
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 1: think it's something that you cute little think you put

1552
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 1: on a T shirt or something. Trust the process, the

1553
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 1: process here with this group, with this coaching's having this group,

1554
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 1: the is real. It's tangible. Yes, yeah, And I agree,

1555
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:06,639
Speaker 1: and he's he's right. I you look at what Trent

1556
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 1: just said at the colleges. I think we've got a

1557
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:10,639
Speaker 1: better team. I think this team is way more physically

1558
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 1: talented at all over the roster than it was a

1559
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 1: year ago coming out of training camp. I just I do.

1560
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 1: I just think they're more physically talented, uh, particularly in

1561
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 1: the front seven and even on the offensive line. I

1562
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:28,639
Speaker 1: think they're deeper now than they were a year ago.

1563
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 1: And now that some of them are unproven, but you've

1564
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 1: got guys who are who are veteran NFL guys stepping

1565
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 1: up to the starting job. Really, the only difference is

1566
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna start permanently now. They've all started games, they've

1567
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 1: all got experienced, they've all played well at times in

1568
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 1: their career. So I think there's a lot to be

1569
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 1: optimistic about it. And with the great, big, huge void

1570
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:50,680
Speaker 1: question that nobody can answer is who's going to pull

1571
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 1: the trigger? And you know, and it is a big question,

1572
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 1: but all over the roster, you know. And I know

1573
01:15:56,560 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 1: this too. I'm I'm you know, I'm Scar Optimus here,

1574
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I think everything, I spend everything positive,

1575
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 1: I do it. I did it all the way through

1576
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:06,679
Speaker 1: the seventeen year drought too. I mean I was always

1577
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:10,759
Speaker 1: buying in. So I'm I'm I'm a I'm a Koolaid

1578
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 1: guzzler from way back. But it really is refreshing to

1579
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 1: see real tangible results for the process that Sean McDermott

1580
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 1: has done. This team is going to be together and

1581
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 1: cheering for each other and pulling for each other like

1582
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 1: last year's team was, which made him so easy to

1583
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:27,680
Speaker 1: cheer for. It was a lot of fun to do

1584
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 1: that last year. I think we're gonna look for more

1585
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 1: of the same and you're gonna look a better team.

1586
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 1: But it's like Sean McDermot said today to his players,

1587
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 1: you know, we've done a lot of things. We're doing

1588
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:37,639
Speaker 1: all the gritty work. We're doing all that, but there's

1589
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 1: no guarantees. Bill's wrapped up their training camp today with

1590
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 1: the practice in the morning. They are heading now. Most

1591
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 1: of them are probably gone and they're tearing down the

1592
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 1: buildings as we speak. We'll try to keep our set

1593
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 1: together for another hour and a half or so, try

1594
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 1: to keep our little thing together. Our group is here.

1595
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 1: We sat down earlier today with Dion Dawkins, second year

1596
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 1: left tackle for the Bills. That interview coming up when

1597
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 1: we return. It is One Bill's Live from Buffalo Bills

1598
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 1: training camp on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to Bill's

1599
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 1: training Camp. Welcome to One Goils Live, John Murphy, Steve Cats.

1600
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 1: You're joined by Dean Dawkins, Bill starting left tackle. He

1601
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 1: ended training camp. Congratulation to meet through another camp. Appreciate it.

1602
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 1: Definitely made it there no doubt right when you come here,

1603
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 1: you think I know the drill especially in your second year.

1604
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 1: You gotta feel like you're you're comfortable here, you know

1605
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 1: what's what's expected. Yeah, So as your time goes like

1606
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:36,720
Speaker 1: you just know like how to uh, I call it

1607
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 1: finesse your way through. As far as the schedule and

1608
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:43,680
Speaker 1: just being places like like one time and getting your

1609
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 1: rest and a little time pockets. The schedule is demanding,

1610
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:48,919
Speaker 1: isn't it. I mean people see you out here practicing,

1611
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:51,760
Speaker 1: but you've got meeting time, You've got meal times. You

1612
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 1: got a lot to do in the course of a

1613
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 1: typical dat house meetings, lifting, eating, baby naps and then

1614
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 1: U time. What's your baby name? Baby not there's like

1615
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes or less. Yeah, I call him catnaps. The

1616
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 1: same concept. Tell tell us a little bit about your crew,

1617
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 1: your your offensive line group. You got a lot of

1618
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 1: guys that are you know, everybody is questioning how good

1619
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 1: you're gonna be because you know Ritchie and Eric leven. Yeah,

1620
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:17,599
Speaker 1: but you've got a lot of veterans that you're mixing

1621
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 1: in trying to get a starting spot. Tell us about

1622
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 1: the vibe in the room with one caste or your

1623
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 1: line coach. Uh, for sure. Well, our whole group is

1624
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 1: basically all old heads, I will call them. Uh, they

1625
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 1: have a lot of starts and they've played a lot

1626
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 1: of games which a lot of people don't really look at.

1627
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:36,639
Speaker 1: But uh, there's there's a bunch of leaders, Like they're

1628
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 1: all leaders, they're they're all fathers basically, so they're all

1629
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:44,640
Speaker 1: grown men and I know exactly what they have to do.

1630
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 1: And uh, and in that room, it's just a big

1631
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 1: family coach coach that keeps us in and we're just

1632
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 1: one How how important is it or do you have

1633
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 1: a timeline? Wouldn't they need to get the guy need

1634
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 1: to five guys and a couple of d I mean,

1635
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 1: how how much time do you guys need? How many

1636
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 1: reps you need before you start? You know, being able

1637
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 1: to talk without talking? You know what I mean, communicate

1638
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 1: without speaking. Oh yeah, well we're gonna talk the entire

1639
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 1: season because because that's just put and puts us all

1640
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 1: on the same same page and on the field. I

1641
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 1: always say, like, there's no secrets. So if we have

1642
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 1: to block him, me and you were going to block him,

1643
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 1: there's no secret that one guy should never beat both

1644
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 1: of us, right, So there's no secret whether he knows

1645
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 1: it's coming or not, whether right. So, uh, and we

1646
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 1: just talk on and off so and I think that

1647
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 1: that just makes us a better player. So this goes

1648
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 1: without saying. And Murph and I we don't ever do this.

1649
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 1: But when you've got a guy standing like this close

1650
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:36,599
Speaker 1: to each other and the two of you are talking

1651
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 1: openly about pushing the other guy, most people don't have

1652
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 1: a job where they push a guy against their will

1653
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 1: and he knows it's coming. Right. Um, talk a little

1654
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 1: bit about the mindset. I mean, that's that's where you live. Yeah,

1655
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 1: so as the football fans know, it's it's the trenches.

1656
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:54,639
Speaker 1: But uh, like I just live and with that mindset,

1657
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 1: kill or be killed as soon as you um let

1658
01:19:59,880 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 1: U then you will and get got. So you have

1659
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 1: to always be on on your top game and just

1660
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 1: be ready to dominate everybody. But Dan Dawkins bills a

1661
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 1: left tackle, his training camp comes to an end. One

1662
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 1: thing DM that I noticed a fairly early eye last

1663
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 1: year in your rookie season was the fact that you

1664
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:18,720
Speaker 1: seem to finish blocks down field, you go down, you

1665
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 1: go downfield farther than most offensive lineman. Dude, have you

1666
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 1: always done that? And what your mentality did you? Yeah? So, Um,

1667
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 1: play at Temple. Uh we've always uh spoke on toughness

1668
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 1: and uh being uh a lion and not a sheep,

1669
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: and uh I lived by there, so I just like

1670
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 1: carried it on here. Uh. Coaches say that it's hard

1671
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:44,719
Speaker 1: for for God's to to to like to finish because

1672
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:49,360
Speaker 1: it takes condition to push yourself five ten yards down

1673
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 1: the field when everyone one else is like back there.

1674
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 1: So Uh, I just take it as as just a

1675
01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:58,599
Speaker 1: little spice on on my game and it just makes

1676
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 1: me a different type type of player. When you have

1677
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:02,880
Speaker 1: a back like Shady, it would seem like that would

1678
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 1: be a benefit because you don't know, any play is

1679
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 1: potentially a big play for lash McCoy for sure. Yeah,

1680
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 1: because uh and with a guy and shifty like him

1681
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 1: and Murth and Uh and Cadet, like those guys are

1682
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 1: all over the place and Taiwan, so they're and they're shifty.

1683
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,599
Speaker 1: At any point the play could blake uh and break

1684
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 1: left or break right or and break straight. So I

1685
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 1: definitely think that those I call them skinnies, so like

1686
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:30,800
Speaker 1: those like skinny guys definitely appreciate guys down the field. Yeah,

1687
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:33,799
Speaker 1: finished last year, you guys started out with Rick Dennison

1688
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 1: as your offensive coordinators your first year, you went through

1689
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:39,800
Speaker 1: that where they changed the run scheme the bye week

1690
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 1: last year. Talk a little bit about Dave on his

1691
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:44,680
Speaker 1: offense and how is it you know it's different. I

1692
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 1: mean it's it's a versatile You guys are being asked

1693
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,320
Speaker 1: to do just about everything you can think of, right. Yeah,

1694
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 1: so I would say that his playbook is uh I

1695
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 1: call it exotic and uh from me dealing with my learning,

1696
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 1: uh this abilities and like what I go through, it

1697
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:05,320
Speaker 1: just takes a longer time to um process it. So

1698
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:08,760
Speaker 1: it just takes more like like more time studying. But

1699
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 1: I like, I feel like once you get it, it

1700
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 1: will definitely help help us. You're talking about as a

1701
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 1: benefit you have dyslexia. What, No, it's it's uh like

1702
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 1: I just have a harder time like process like sessing

1703
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 1: stuff on paper. I've seen there's a ton of guys

1704
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 1: like that in the league, and it's it's hard to overcome.

1705
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 1: You have to find your own way to learn, and

1706
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 1: then the coaches work with you about that. Yeah. So

1707
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 1: I I learned better on the field and hands on

1708
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:37,719
Speaker 1: than the classroom. Like I they could say a hundred

1709
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 1: times in the classroom and I could come out here

1710
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 1: and do it twice and I'll get it right. So

1711
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 1: it's it's it's just crazy. So that's how you is

1712
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:46,840
Speaker 1: that kind of part of the way that you kind

1713
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 1: of emerged as a starting left tackling. It went from

1714
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:51,599
Speaker 1: a you know, draft pick in the you are left

1715
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 1: tackle because the more reps you got speaking to that,

1716
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 1: you got better and better and better and better because

1717
01:22:56,439 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 1: you needed reps and you could have like skipped the meetings. Yeah,

1718
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 1: just came right if you run by him, because I

1719
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,680
Speaker 1: would coach Castile. He'll have me out here until one

1720
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 1: am every day and then I won't have no energy

1721
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:13,559
Speaker 1: of the practice be on. One thing that we noticed

1722
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 1: last week in the game against Carolina was the variety

1723
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:19,600
Speaker 1: of formations and the variety of offensive sets. Yeah, and

1724
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 1: it was even kind of an up tempo too. To

1725
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:23,400
Speaker 1: get that done in the first preseason game. I was

1726
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 1: quite impressed by that. Can you talk about that the

1727
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:27,640
Speaker 1: challenge that was for you not to make offensive I

1728
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 1: didn't change much, but there was a lot going on

1729
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 1: on offense last week. Yes, So I'm gonna say that

1730
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 1: I'm thankful that I am not a skinny because those

1731
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:38,639
Speaker 1: guys are doing a ton of different things, whether it's

1732
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 1: lining up on or off or motioning back and forth

1733
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:45,400
Speaker 1: for katon and juke and laugh for whatever. Uh So

1734
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:48,720
Speaker 1: I still call it an exotic offense, and it's just

1735
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 1: stuff to uh pull guys heads in this way to

1736
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 1: steer him here and while we're going there. So you know,

1737
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 1: going into the game, talking to Steve and I talked

1738
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 1: to coach McDermott, he actually was worried about making you're

1739
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:01,760
Speaker 1: eleven on the field. That wasn't an issue. You guys

1740
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 1: would seem well schooled and that ready to do that,

1741
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 1: even the skinny guys as you as you point out,

1742
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 1: we're ready. I got to talking about that. But go ahead,

1743
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring that up a minute. Talk to talk

1744
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 1: about the eleven on the field. That that's not easy. Yeah,

1745
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 1: but uh, coach and coach, priests, preachers, just do your

1746
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 1: one eleventh And if you're a part of that first

1747
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 1: group or sect group or the third group, you like,

1748
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:24,680
Speaker 1: you have to know where you're supposed to be, and

1749
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 1: we're counting on you to know where you have to

1750
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:29,120
Speaker 1: be so we can keep winning and keep pushing plays.

1751
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 1: So the old line you call them skinnies. We used

1752
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:35,760
Speaker 1: to call them athletes, yeah, and they call us unathletic guys.

1753
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 1: So I call big gunnies biggies and athletes or those

1754
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:42,040
Speaker 1: you know heavy that kind of say that's yeah. Things change, Well,

1755
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:44,800
Speaker 1: actually they don't change. Really, it's all us about this game.

1756
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 1: What has there been any I know it last week

1757
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott told us there is a game plan for

1758
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 1: for the last game, the Carolina game, But it was

1759
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 1: like this big yeah, very little. Kind of the same

1760
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 1: thing here with against Cleveland. The same thing, although you know,

1761
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 1: you got your guy Tyrod's over there. It's kind of

1762
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:01,640
Speaker 1: got somebody you love and respect, first quarterback. Yeah, so

1763
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 1: it's gonna be kind of weird seeing him going out

1764
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 1: of pre game and checking it out. Well, I wouldn't

1765
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 1: call it weird because coming into the NFL, and but

1766
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 1: you know that like that, this is a business and

1767
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 1: changes happened all all the time, Like Ritchie and e

1768
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 1: Wood like that was a big change, right and Tyrod

1769
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 1: that was a huge change. So like I'm just starting,

1770
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 1: like to starting to understand and just to not take

1771
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 1: nothing personal and just understand that this business is a

1772
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 1: business and things and will change on a daily basis.

1773
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 1: You won't game plan much for Cleveland. They won't game

1774
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 1: plan much for you, but never know about that. It's

1775
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 1: the first home game, that's right. And the defense under

1776
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 1: Greg Williams with Miles Garrett coming over there, they got

1777
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:40,800
Speaker 1: some people who can rush the passer and that's what

1778
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:42,640
Speaker 1: Greg Williams just done over the years. Yeah, and we

1779
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 1: got some people that can block for the quarterback. So

1780
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 1: I don't take nothing serious. We're just gonna do do

1781
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:51,720
Speaker 1: do our job and hopefully they can pursue and do

1782
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 1: their How aware are you guys up front about the

1783
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 1: guy behind you, the quarterback? It's a three way battle,

1784
01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 1: has been sure. How much is that in the front

1785
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:00,639
Speaker 1: of your mind when you get there, when you're playing

1786
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 1: in these game dreaming on the practice field. Yes, so

1787
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 1: that is on our minds at the highest because every

1788
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:09,639
Speaker 1: each of those three quarterbacks are different. Josh is taller

1789
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 1: like obviously, so his sets are deeper, and aj and

1790
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 1: Peterman are similar, but um, they're all different. So as

1791
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 1: a lineman, like, we have to know who's behind us

1792
01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 1: so we can set a certain way so that quarterback

1793
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 1: feels safe and feels like comfortable to make a play.

1794
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 1: And for a big guy, Josh, he's very mobile athletic

1795
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of it seems like a lot

1796
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:32,800
Speaker 1: of RPOs you could use with Josh here right, make

1797
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 1: it you can run right? So, Uh, Josh is a skinny,

1798
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 1: but he is also also and a heavy skinny, a

1799
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 1: heavier skinny. You know, I'm afraid to ask you about

1800
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:48,680
Speaker 1: what you think. Steve and I d camp is over

1801
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 1: your second camp? How further ahead of you now than

1802
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 1: a year ago at this same at the end of

1803
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 1: training camp? Uh, just one step forward. I just take

1804
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 1: one and one step, but like at a time, so

1805
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:00,639
Speaker 1: I can get to my goal and the team goals

1806
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:02,880
Speaker 1: and the team goals and my goals. Uh, just one

1807
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 1: step at it, but like at a time of just

1808
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 1: taking a day and by day, what are your goals

1809
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 1: and what are the team goals? Uh? Well, first I'm

1810
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 1: gonna starting with the team. Uh. I want the online

1811
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 1: group to to be the best. We have a running

1812
01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 1: back that wants to be in a Hall of Fame,

1813
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 1: so we're gonna do everything and everything to help him

1814
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 1: pursue his dreams and then win a Super Bowl, Conference

1815
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 1: champ championship and all of that. So we just just

1816
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 1: just want to do it. But I just winning every

1817
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 1: day and every game one by one. Training camps over. Yeah,

1818
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 1: how do you come out? You come out physically? Okay,

1819
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 1: came through. I mean that's not easy to do. He

1820
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:41,519
Speaker 1: came through. No Nixon cut some that kind of stuff.

1821
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 1: God is real, you know, and he definitely it keeps

1822
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 1: me safe and he keeps me humble. So I'm still

1823
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 1: walking and I could still punch, and I still got

1824
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:52,880
Speaker 1: all of my fingers. So I'm gonna keep using a

1825
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 1: good step starting. Jack, Steve and I back with more

1826
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:01,679
Speaker 1: one Bill's Life from Bill's training camp on Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1827
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:18,759
Speaker 1: Welcome back to Bill's training camp. John Murphy, Steve Tasker

1828
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 1: here again our thanks to Jon Dawkins. He's an interesting

1829
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 1: young man. He's I like his concept of a baby nap.

1830
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 1: I gotta get a baby nap in here. When he

1831
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:28,800
Speaker 1: said that, I like that. Yeah, Murph and I are

1832
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 1: big nap fans. A baby nap. I need a baby nap.

1833
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 1: That was cool. It was great to talk with him.

1834
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:37,720
Speaker 1: Eighty five degrees sunny skuys. They're tearing down Bills training camp.

1835
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 1: Last day here. We gotta tweet a little bit earlier today,

1836
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 1: Steve from a gentleman who was listening to the show,

1837
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:44,920
Speaker 1: and in both it wasn't just the tweet, it was

1838
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 1: the picture that that he sent along with it that

1839
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 1: got us both kind of exciting. I retweeted it. It

1840
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 1: was great. It's unbelievable. Here he is the tweet from

1841
01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 1: a gentleman who's fishing on Glenn Lake, Dan, not a

1842
01:28:58,080 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 1: bad way to listen to one Bill's Live Glen Lake,

1843
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:03,800
Speaker 1: New York. That's up near um Glenn's falls up near

1844
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:06,160
Speaker 1: the end a round decks. Wow, it looks great, right,

1845
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 1: it looks like he's fishing on a fishing round on

1846
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 1: a kaya on a kayak listening. He's got sunscreen on. Jealous,

1847
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 1: very jealous, all right. Speaking of Twitter, this came across

1848
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 1: today from Will Brinson, who covers the NFL, and basically

1849
01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:25,000
Speaker 1: there's a major article uh in GQ with Jalen Ramsey,

1850
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 1: you know who. He is regarded as one of the

1851
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:30,080
Speaker 1: best young corners in the game. Jalen Ramsey, who um,

1852
01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 1: first of all, is he's been thrown out of their

1853
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 1: camp for a week because he was fighting. Shows you

1854
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 1: a little bit about him, um. But he also went

1855
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 1: off in this article in GQ about some of the

1856
01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:43,320
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that the Jags will face this year. Some of

1857
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:47,560
Speaker 1: the guys. Jalen Ramsey on Joe Flacco, did you see this?

1858
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:48,840
Speaker 1: Do you see what he said? You're having in front

1859
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 1: of you? I do. Joe Flacco, he sucks. Yeah. Jalen Ramsey,

1860
01:29:54,400 --> 01:30:00,200
Speaker 1: Jaguars cornerback on Matt Ryan for the Falcons. Who yeah,

1861
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:06,559
Speaker 1: you're laughing at Ramsey On Jimmy Garoppolo, he's all schemes. Um,

1862
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:10,200
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, what do you say about him? Colson Wentz?

1863
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 1: They think they're both gonna be Jared Goff. He didn't

1864
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:15,600
Speaker 1: even think much of Jared Goff. You know, average to

1865
01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 1: above average, a big ben decent at best. Jalen Ramsey says, right, okay,

1866
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:23,880
Speaker 1: But here's the one that got our attention. Josh Allen,

1867
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:27,679
Speaker 1: Bill's quarterback. What a one word answer from Jalen Ramsey

1868
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:32,160
Speaker 1: on Josh Allen. He's trash. Trash Now, I guess he

1869
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:35,439
Speaker 1: had nothing good to say about him about Josh Allen.

1870
01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 1: He didn't. He talked about how when when Josh Allen

1871
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 1: played at Wyoming against the big conference schools, how he

1872
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:45,040
Speaker 1: couldn't handle it. He basically went off. He went off

1873
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:47,640
Speaker 1: on him. It's pretty amazing. I think Jalen Ramsey is

1874
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:50,559
Speaker 1: a good young player, guy's gonna get better. But trash.

1875
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:53,600
Speaker 1: He thinks Josh Allen is trash. Here's the quote. I

1876
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 1: think Allen is trash. I don't care what nobody say.

1877
01:30:57,680 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 1: He's trash and it's gonna show too. That's a stupid

1878
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:02,080
Speaker 1: draft pick to me. We play them this year and

1879
01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:04,719
Speaker 1: I'm excited at this. Hell, I hope he's their starting quarterback.

1880
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 1: He played at Wyoming every time they played a big school,

1881
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:09,040
Speaker 1: like they played at Iowa State, which is not a

1882
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:10,880
Speaker 1: big school in any in my opinion, because I went

1883
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:13,320
Speaker 1: to Florida State and he drew five interceptions and they

1884
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 1: lost by a couple of touchdowns or something like that.

1885
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:19,640
Speaker 1: He never made beat a big school. Jitlan Ramsay, By

1886
01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:25,519
Speaker 1: the way, Allen never played against Iowa State. Josh Allen

1887
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:27,479
Speaker 1: responded today here at camp, he was asked about Jalen

1888
01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:32,240
Speaker 1: ramses comments. Here's what he had to say. No, I

1889
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 1: didn't know. That's the first I've heard of it. So

1890
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:38,120
Speaker 1: he's not on my team. He's not my teammate. You know,

1891
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:44,040
Speaker 1: I don't don't bother me. Good answer. Yeah, yeah, it

1892
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:46,559
Speaker 1: is a good Yeah, that's where you can listen. Yeah,

1893
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:49,240
Speaker 1: a guy he's never faced yet, hasn't even Matt doesn't

1894
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:52,120
Speaker 1: even know. I mean, when you're an NFL player, even

1895
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:55,639
Speaker 1: if you're a rookie, you understand that people are gonna

1896
01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:57,360
Speaker 1: say things about it. You don't have any control over.

1897
01:31:57,479 --> 01:31:59,120
Speaker 1: You just kind of gotta get used to shrugging your

1898
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 1: shoulders and going on about your work. And that's that.

1899
01:32:01,080 --> 01:32:05,160
Speaker 1: Josh Allen did that today, and then Jalen Ramsey is Listen,

1900
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:07,599
Speaker 1: he's a magnet. Now. Now he's a magnet because every

1901
01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:11,080
Speaker 1: he does not hold back. You had he plays? Who's

1902
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:14,200
Speaker 1: he play? Some of these quarterbacks this year? Does right? He?

1903
01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:17,280
Speaker 1: You know, he's like been, he's been Roethlisberger, He's decent

1904
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:20,639
Speaker 1: at best. At best he says and bordles his own

1905
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:26,120
Speaker 1: quarterback playoff Blake is good to say. I mean, come on, man,

1906
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 1: here's a call from Tim in deep Hello, Tim, welcome,

1907
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:31,160
Speaker 1: you're on the air with us. How you doing, guys?

1908
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:34,720
Speaker 1: This is a good tim You belong in the Hall

1909
01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:37,360
Speaker 1: of Fame without a doubt, and not just as a

1910
01:32:38,200 --> 01:32:41,040
Speaker 1: it's a drink that's a shot, but all around football

1911
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:44,840
Speaker 1: player and I'll tell you I remember Jim Kelly saying,

1912
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 1: no matter what for a game against my name. We're

1913
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:54,560
Speaker 1: listening to Tim. Tim's got a bad phone, which is

1914
01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:57,800
Speaker 1: unfortunate because he's paying comments and compliments and Steve task

1915
01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:01,320
Speaker 1: that's my mute button. You love that? You're kidding? You

1916
01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:03,960
Speaker 1: love that? The shot, by the way, man, if you're

1917
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:05,840
Speaker 1: at home watching the show, it's a little drinking game.

1918
01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 1: We've been betted. Anytime anybody says that Steve Tasker should

1919
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:10,639
Speaker 1: be in the Hall of Fame, you do a shot.

1920
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 1: I just did a shot at ginger Le. Don't you

1921
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:17,240
Speaker 1: do that at the Tasker said, listen, yeah, no, you're

1922
01:33:17,280 --> 01:33:19,639
Speaker 1: gonna be a diabetic at that part. People keep calling

1923
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:22,960
Speaker 1: all your buddies. Can't make you look like. We had

1924
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:24,439
Speaker 1: to let you go. The phone line was bad. All right,

1925
01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:27,320
Speaker 1: another hour Togo, Steve Tasker Future All the Famer comes

1926
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 1: back with us, and we're gonna talk a little bit

1927
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:31,840
Speaker 1: about our All Fisher team. Who do you got who's

1928
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:34,000
Speaker 1: your best player at each position? We'll go over that.

1929
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:36,759
Speaker 1: We'll talk with more with you about the defining player

1930
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:39,280
Speaker 1: on offense and defense for the Buffalo Bills, and whatever

1931
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 1: else you'd like to talk about here as training camp

1932
01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:44,479
Speaker 1: wraps up, John Murphy Steve Tasker one does live presented

1933
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 1: by Collada Health Company from Bill's Training Camp on Buffalo

1934
01:33:47,600 --> 01:34:06,280
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio, Hello Hills Radio Network. Stories Update update from

1935
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:08,479
Speaker 1: trainee camp. It is over. The Bills wrapped up their

1936
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen training camp today a morning practice. Another big

1937
01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:13,960
Speaker 1: crowd on hand for the final practice of camp. Better

1938
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 1: in a. J McCarron got the first team reps today.

1939
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:19,519
Speaker 1: Rookie first rounder Josh Allen worked with the twos. Nathan

1940
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:21,439
Speaker 1: Peterman got most of the work with a third team.

1941
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:24,080
Speaker 1: Head coach Sean McDermot not yet ready to announce who

1942
01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:26,679
Speaker 1: he will start in preseason game number two. Focus seemed

1943
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:28,880
Speaker 1: to be on the run game through most of practice today.

1944
01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:31,840
Speaker 1: In the teamwork Candy Way offensive formations plenty of them

1945
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:34,760
Speaker 1: with extra tight ends. Bills kept receiver Brandon Riley on

1946
01:34:34,840 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 1: the sidelines again. He continues to handle his rib injury.

1947
01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:41,320
Speaker 1: Defensive end Trent Murphy still out with a groin injury.

1948
01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:44,560
Speaker 1: Receiver Ray Ray McCloud practice, but he practiced in a

1949
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:48,960
Speaker 1: non contactors. Defensive tackle markabus lewis also out with an injury,

1950
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:51,599
Speaker 1: walked through workout for the Bills that won. Bills drive tomorrow,

1951
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:54,439
Speaker 1: then they leave tomorrow afternoon for Cleveland in preseason game

1952
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:57,320
Speaker 1: number two Bills and Browns Friday night, seven thirty. You

1953
01:34:57,360 --> 01:35:00,320
Speaker 1: can catch the game on radio on our Flagship and Falo.

1954
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:01,840
Speaker 1: I have the call of the game along with Mark

1955
01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:05,240
Speaker 1: Kelso and Salcapaccio on the sideline seven thirty. Kickoff on

1956
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 1: Friday night the Bills. In the Cleveland Browns, Steelers quarterback

1957
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:11,920
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger is in concussion protocol after a hit early

1958
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:14,920
Speaker 1: in their practice yesterday. Coach Mike Tomlin said that doctors

1959
01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:18,400
Speaker 1: are evaluating him. Roethlisberger, the sixth time Pro Bowl performer,

1960
01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:21,400
Speaker 1: fell to the turf after a hit from a linebacker

1961
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:23,639
Speaker 1: key On Adams. He got up on his own, talked

1962
01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:25,800
Speaker 1: with teammates and some of the others, and did not

1963
01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:29,479
Speaker 1: return bend. Roethlisberger in concussion protocol for the Steelers and

1964
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:32,400
Speaker 1: no word yet on how long he may remain in

1965
01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:36,919
Speaker 1: concussion protocol at the Cleveland Browns training camp. The Browns

1966
01:35:37,479 --> 01:35:40,920
Speaker 1: have had some issues with Jarvis Landry, including a scrap

1967
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:43,960
Speaker 1: with a teammate the other day. Baker Mayfield says fellow

1968
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:47,800
Speaker 1: rookie Antonio Callaway has earned his respect. However, Callaway has

1969
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:49,920
Speaker 1: had to worked hard this past week to regain his

1970
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:53,479
Speaker 1: respect from his teammates after being cited for marijuana possession

1971
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:56,519
Speaker 1: and driving with a suspended license last weekend. And that

1972
01:35:56,800 --> 01:36:01,680
Speaker 1: is the update from Buffalo Bills training camp. Oh a

1973
01:36:01,760 --> 01:36:20,280
Speaker 1: good time, Steve Claspers, doos do not time. Welcome back

1974
01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:23,519
Speaker 1: our number three, John Murphy, Steve Tasker from our broadcast

1975
01:36:23,640 --> 01:36:26,600
Speaker 1: location here at Buffalo Bills training camp in the Pelicano

1976
01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:29,840
Speaker 1: Pavilion overlooking Groundie Stadium. Ye've been a complex here at

1977
01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:33,479
Speaker 1: Saint John Fisher undergoing another transformation, Steve, as they tear

1978
01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:36,320
Speaker 1: down all remnants of the Bills being here. It's kind

1979
01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:38,719
Speaker 1: of sad to be here during the breakdown, isn't it. Yeah,

1980
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:41,120
Speaker 1: But you know what, Saint John Fisher's gotta open their

1981
01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:43,160
Speaker 1: camp up. Yep. They've been here a couple of days.

1982
01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:45,640
Speaker 1: They've been here. Um, you know the the uh the

1983
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:47,720
Speaker 1: Jackson Brown song, what is it called the load out?

1984
01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:51,200
Speaker 1: That's that's what kind of remember you know the song? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Um,

1985
01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:55,080
Speaker 1: stay a little longer. Oh yeah, I feel like, don't

1986
01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:58,400
Speaker 1: have that guy, don't do it. But seriously, that's what

1987
01:36:58,479 --> 01:37:00,519
Speaker 1: I feel bad. Ye, the roadies are loading up, just

1988
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 1: leave me my pianos. It's like, just let me play

1989
01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:05,880
Speaker 1: while you guys breaks down. Yeah yeah, just just let

1990
01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:07,800
Speaker 1: us finish up here with our piano. That's what we're doing.

1991
01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:12,599
Speaker 1: We're playing, right, We're kind of we're the last ones

1992
01:37:12,640 --> 01:37:15,639
Speaker 1: here work. We are, actually we are the last people

1993
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:18,280
Speaker 1: to do if yeah, we're the last people be doing

1994
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:21,439
Speaker 1: our jobs here. If the promoter don't mind, and the

1995
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:25,400
Speaker 1: roadies don't mind, just take a little time. I don't

1996
01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 1: know all the lyrics, but you know what I'm talking about.

1997
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:29,680
Speaker 1: It kind of feels like that as they pick up

1998
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:32,080
Speaker 1: around us, as it does like the end of a

1999
01:37:32,160 --> 01:37:34,840
Speaker 1: festival over here. Yeah, you know, all the good times

2000
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:37,000
Speaker 1: are gone. Right, we're back at We got a show

2001
01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:39,679
Speaker 1: tomorrow in Orchard Park. Then we hop in the card

2002
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:42,640
Speaker 1: drive down the ninety to Cleveland. There could be a

2003
01:37:42,680 --> 01:37:45,120
Speaker 1: stop at Chick fil A in the works and eerie

2004
01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:47,840
Speaker 1: Pa just saying, and then of course the show in

2005
01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:50,360
Speaker 1: Cleveland on Friday, and the two hardest working men in

2006
01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:53,519
Speaker 1: show business go noon to three on Friday afternoon. I

2007
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:55,840
Speaker 1: thought you're talking about you and Kelso And though then

2008
01:37:55,920 --> 01:37:57,679
Speaker 1: Kelso and I do the radio, you do the TV

2009
01:37:58,240 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 1: with you get your boy back this yeah, Andrew Catlo. Yeah,

2010
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:04,120
Speaker 1: Robstone is great. I was great seeing him. I was

2011
01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:06,040
Speaker 1: fun to get and work with him again. We've done

2012
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:07,479
Speaker 1: and I think this is a third or fourth year

2013
01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:09,280
Speaker 1: in a row. We've worked one game with Rob Stone,

2014
01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:11,320
Speaker 1: but then Andrew Catalo and Andrew and I are good buddies.

2015
01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:13,800
Speaker 1: We've worked together a handful of years with CBS, and

2016
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:15,680
Speaker 1: I look forward to see him. He's gonna be on

2017
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:17,880
Speaker 1: the show tomorrow. Yeah, Yeah, he's on the show with tomorrow.

2018
01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:20,080
Speaker 1: Andrew Catalon will be don't play by play with Steve

2019
01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:22,200
Speaker 1: with the Bills and the Browns. You started your work.

2020
01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:25,040
Speaker 1: I see some of your your depth chart work here. Yeah.

2021
01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:28,240
Speaker 1: I'm I'm trying it this way this time for this preseason.

2022
01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:30,120
Speaker 1: It makes it sense because I'm gonna I'm gonna start

2023
01:38:30,240 --> 01:38:32,560
Speaker 1: transferring coaches notes over into the other side of the

2024
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:35,400
Speaker 1: page and get it going. So it's we've got a

2025
01:38:35,439 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 1: lot of you know, it's funny because people don't know

2026
01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:39,840
Speaker 1: people do know it that Sean McDermott talks to the

2027
01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:43,360
Speaker 1: media every day and he says a lot if you listen,

2028
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:46,599
Speaker 1: if he Well, he doesn't tell you a lot of information,

2029
01:38:46,680 --> 01:38:48,360
Speaker 1: but he's talks, you know, a lot, So you got

2030
01:38:48,479 --> 01:38:51,120
Speaker 1: to kind of read when you transcribe it. Oh my gosh,

2031
01:38:51,200 --> 01:38:52,960
Speaker 1: it's like page after page, so you got to kind

2032
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:54,680
Speaker 1: of sift through it to see if you can find

2033
01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:56,439
Speaker 1: some good stuff in there. It's a little bit like

2034
01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:58,040
Speaker 1: the production meaning, but he's a little better in that.

2035
01:38:58,160 --> 01:38:59,760
Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, you gotta read through all this

2036
01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:02,800
Speaker 1: and glean some information out and then and really what

2037
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:04,479
Speaker 1: I do that for? And he'd probably do the same thing.

2038
01:39:05,200 --> 01:39:08,360
Speaker 1: When you read all that transcripts, you're trying to turn

2039
01:39:08,439 --> 01:39:10,840
Speaker 1: what you're gonna ask him in a production meeting. Yeah, right,

2040
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:13,479
Speaker 1: you try and look for questions in all the things

2041
01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:16,400
Speaker 1: that he says. And so I'm doing getting that kind

2042
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:18,280
Speaker 1: of gearing up for that production meeting we have right on.

2043
01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:20,680
Speaker 1: It's on Thursday when they get in town. Right, it's

2044
01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:23,360
Speaker 1: like a four tomorrow, four o'clock tomorrow. Hey, if you

2045
01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:25,320
Speaker 1: just joined us, you missed a pretty good interview with

2046
01:39:26,120 --> 01:39:29,040
Speaker 1: Brian Baldinger from the NFL Network. You can catch up

2047
01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:32,720
Speaker 1: with that on our website Buffalo Bills dot com. And

2048
01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:34,920
Speaker 1: just moments ago, about a half hour ago, Deon Dawkins,

2049
01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:37,639
Speaker 1: Bills left tackle, joined us here at Fisher the last

2050
01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:39,360
Speaker 1: player interview we've done here. We've done a lot of

2051
01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:41,840
Speaker 1: good interviews. Here go to miss training, kim Um. We're

2052
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:44,360
Speaker 1: talking about a couple of different things, and we'd like

2053
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 1: to resume that discussion with you. Which player on offense

2054
01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:49,759
Speaker 1: for the Bills and which player on defense will define

2055
01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:53,439
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. So the most what relevant player? The

2056
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:56,479
Speaker 1: most important player on offense, the most important player on defense?

2057
01:39:56,520 --> 01:39:58,880
Speaker 1: Who do you have? Who's it gonna be, Who's who's

2058
01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:01,000
Speaker 1: the offense gonna lean on? Or who's you know, who's

2059
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:03,240
Speaker 1: gonna set the tone for the entire offense for the

2060
01:40:03,400 --> 01:40:05,640
Speaker 1: entire year. Give us a call, let's discuss. We got

2061
01:40:05,680 --> 01:40:07,720
Speaker 1: phone lines open eight oh three oh five fifty and

2062
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:11,200
Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty,

2063
01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:13,680
Speaker 1: or you can do it on Twitter at one Bill's Live.

2064
01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:17,320
Speaker 1: Steve and I picked our defining players earlier. On on offense.

2065
01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:20,160
Speaker 1: I had Josh Allen on offense. Steve had Lashawan McCoy

2066
01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:23,599
Speaker 1: on defense. We both had three Maine Edmonds. You may agree,

2067
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:26,599
Speaker 1: you may disagree. Let us know eight O three five

2068
01:40:26,680 --> 01:40:29,280
Speaker 1: fifty and toll free one eight eight eight, five fifty two,

2069
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:31,720
Speaker 1: five fifty plus. We'll read from the tweetcheat. We are

2070
01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:34,479
Speaker 1: moments away from naming our All Bills Camp team. Who

2071
01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:36,960
Speaker 1: are the best at Fisher this year through the I

2072
01:40:37,080 --> 01:40:39,840
Speaker 1: counted it up thirteen practices the Bills had. I think

2073
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:42,000
Speaker 1: I was here for eleven or twelve of them. Anyway,

2074
01:40:42,240 --> 01:40:44,200
Speaker 1: who's the All Fisher Team? The All Bills Camp team.

2075
01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:46,080
Speaker 1: We'll go through our list in a moment. Take a

2076
01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:48,360
Speaker 1: call from Tim in DPU. Hello, Tim, welcome, you're on

2077
01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:52,519
Speaker 1: the air. Yeah, John, just because I saw said Stevie

2078
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:54,400
Speaker 1: should be in the Hall Fame. You cut me off,

2079
01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:58,439
Speaker 1: but listen, Well there you go again. That's another shot,

2080
01:40:58,479 --> 01:41:02,120
Speaker 1: and that's number thirty four. I believe one. You can't

2081
01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:05,400
Speaker 1: put him on twice. I'm trying to cut you off, Tim,

2082
01:41:05,479 --> 01:41:07,920
Speaker 1: Go ahead, go ahead. Tim's keep keep saying the seve

2083
01:41:07,960 --> 01:41:10,280
Speaker 1: de Lungs in the Hall of Fame. We acknowledge that

2084
01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:18,240
Speaker 1: you have something else, Tim. It's not as a special

2085
01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:21,760
Speaker 1: teams player, but also as a wide receiver. And I

2086
01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:25,200
Speaker 1: remember a game in the Miami game where you took

2087
01:41:25,240 --> 01:41:28,200
Speaker 1: out the defensive event on two h two plays in

2088
01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:30,920
Speaker 1: a row, where you gave in motion and wiped out

2089
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:35,479
Speaker 1: the team. I'm just kind of curious. Uh, do you

2090
01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:38,639
Speaker 1: actually talk to some of these young receivers that come

2091
01:41:38,680 --> 01:41:43,280
Speaker 1: to the team and give them pointers what's for them

2092
01:41:43,360 --> 01:41:48,639
Speaker 1: to make NFL? Thank you? Well, let's no, I don't.

2093
01:41:48,680 --> 01:41:51,360
Speaker 1: I don't talk to the players except him actually talking

2094
01:41:51,360 --> 01:41:54,280
Speaker 1: to Austin Prole today than for a minute geography Rad

2095
01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:57,080
Speaker 1: was in town for him. He's got a seventeen year

2096
01:41:57,240 --> 01:41:59,360
Speaker 1: veteran dad had played in the NFL. He doesn't need

2097
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:04,559
Speaker 1: your asking sort of an advisory capacity today, which is fine,

2098
01:42:05,120 --> 01:42:07,280
Speaker 1: you just did it today. I wouldn't. Yeah, but I'm

2099
01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:08,760
Speaker 1: not telling him how to make the team. But to

2100
01:42:08,840 --> 01:42:10,960
Speaker 1: Tim's point, no, I don't. They don't ask me for

2101
01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:14,000
Speaker 1: advice to these guys because listen, Nate, they got coaches,

2102
01:42:14,160 --> 01:42:17,599
Speaker 1: they got veterans, they got guys inside the locker room

2103
01:42:18,120 --> 01:42:20,519
Speaker 1: that are that are there for that. All they do

2104
01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:22,400
Speaker 1: is get these guys ready to play. They try and

2105
01:42:22,439 --> 01:42:24,600
Speaker 1: impart on them why they're gonna make it and how

2106
01:42:24,640 --> 01:42:26,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna make it, what they're gonna have to do

2107
01:42:26,160 --> 01:42:28,640
Speaker 1: to make it, and they're working hard to do exactly that.

2108
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:32,280
Speaker 1: If they're smart. Uh, some guys don't believe it when

2109
01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:33,960
Speaker 1: you when they tell them, you know, they you got

2110
01:42:34,040 --> 01:42:37,080
Speaker 1: to have a credible source that doesn't And and to them,

2111
01:42:37,120 --> 01:42:40,360
Speaker 1: I'm I'm just some another old player who's a retired

2112
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:42,920
Speaker 1: guy who's just hanging around. Yeah. But you know what,

2113
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:47,040
Speaker 1: Steve and I noticed this, even uh Coleman Corey Coleman

2114
01:42:47,080 --> 01:42:49,000
Speaker 1: brand new Buffalo Bill the other day. They know who

2115
01:42:49,080 --> 01:42:52,120
Speaker 1: you are. Uh. They don't have to tell them, you know.

2116
01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:54,679
Speaker 1: They're like, oh yeah, special teams, Yeah, Pro Bowls, seven

2117
01:42:54,760 --> 01:42:57,000
Speaker 1: Pro Bowls, they know many not all of them, right,

2118
01:42:57,160 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 1: many of them know who you are. Yeah, they do.

2119
01:42:59,200 --> 01:43:01,320
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean they're gonna come up and ask

2120
01:43:01,400 --> 01:43:03,080
Speaker 1: me like, hey, what do you think you know? And

2121
01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:07,000
Speaker 1: quite frankly, their coaches and their assistant coaches and the

2122
01:43:07,160 --> 01:43:08,960
Speaker 1: players around them will be able to give them better

2123
01:43:09,040 --> 01:43:12,519
Speaker 1: information than I could not. You know, if philosophical stuffy

2124
01:43:12,600 --> 01:43:14,800
Speaker 1: I could give them. But you're talking specific and that's

2125
01:43:14,840 --> 01:43:16,679
Speaker 1: what it gets down to. And Tim, this is your point.

2126
01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:18,280
Speaker 1: You're do they come to me and say, hey, what

2127
01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:19,880
Speaker 1: do you see in my game? What do you think

2128
01:43:20,200 --> 01:43:22,880
Speaker 1: you know? They got guys watching every rep, watching the film. Um,

2129
01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:25,640
Speaker 1: I don't do that I'm watching practice for sure, and

2130
01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:27,960
Speaker 1: I'm kind of interested in everything, but we're watching every position.

2131
01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:30,000
Speaker 1: I don't go to hone in on one guy and say, hey,

2132
01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:32,200
Speaker 1: here's what you're doing. When you're coming out of your break,

2133
01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:35,360
Speaker 1: you're tipping your brakes. You know you're the DBS getting

2134
01:43:35,400 --> 01:43:38,160
Speaker 1: a break an edge on you because you're tipping which

2135
01:43:38,200 --> 01:43:39,760
Speaker 1: direction you're going to cut out of your break, or

2136
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:41,920
Speaker 1: when you come off. You got to work on using

2137
01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:43,400
Speaker 1: your hands better when you come off. On all this

2138
01:43:43,479 --> 01:43:46,040
Speaker 1: specific stuff that a player really needs to do. Plus,

2139
01:43:46,320 --> 01:43:48,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I could tell them, they listen, if you

2140
01:43:48,760 --> 01:43:50,880
Speaker 1: can play, if you can play special teams, if you

2141
01:43:50,960 --> 01:43:54,280
Speaker 1: can cover kicks really well, you're gonna have a leg up.

2142
01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:55,920
Speaker 1: You're gonna have an edge on these guys. It doesn't

2143
01:43:55,920 --> 01:43:58,240
Speaker 1: mean you're actually gonna make the team, but if it's

2144
01:43:58,240 --> 01:44:00,720
Speaker 1: a fifty fifty shot and you're a better special teams player,

2145
01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:03,960
Speaker 1: there's absolutely no doubt they'll pick you more. I could

2146
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:06,439
Speaker 1: tell them stuff like that, but you know, for most

2147
01:44:06,479 --> 01:44:09,080
Speaker 1: of these young guys, they need more specific information than

2148
01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:12,000
Speaker 1: I would be able to give. Philosophically. Absolutely, I could

2149
01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:14,600
Speaker 1: help them if they if if they found me a

2150
01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:17,320
Speaker 1: credible source curious what it sounds like on the radio. Now,

2151
01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:19,160
Speaker 1: do you think it sounds like we're in a construction zone,

2152
01:44:19,560 --> 01:44:23,000
Speaker 1: because we basically are demolitions. They're moving equipment through Just

2153
01:44:23,120 --> 01:44:25,879
Speaker 1: the opposite, we're in a teardown zone. They're moving equipment

2154
01:44:26,040 --> 01:44:28,000
Speaker 1: right beyond this verse is going to stay though, right there,

2155
01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:30,720
Speaker 1: I hope. So this pelcano pavilion is going to stay

2156
01:44:30,760 --> 01:44:32,559
Speaker 1: right it's in brick and mortar. We got a call

2157
01:44:32,600 --> 01:44:34,640
Speaker 1: around the line, Dan and Glen Swalls. Dan, are you

2158
01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:38,519
Speaker 1: from the tweet from the boat from the kayak, I'm

2159
01:44:38,560 --> 01:44:42,479
Speaker 1: the fisherman in Glen Lake. Dan, welcome? Are you still

2160
01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:49,680
Speaker 1: on the lake? Juff? Oh, he just turned over in

2161
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:55,720
Speaker 1: the No, I'm here. Okay, go ahead. What did you catch?

2162
01:44:55,840 --> 01:44:59,360
Speaker 1: Did you catch anything about four small mouth passes? Tomorrow?

2163
01:44:59,360 --> 01:45:01,560
Speaker 1: It's a little but it's gorgeous out here in the

2164
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:06,320
Speaker 1: Queensbury area this morning, so it looks saw it. We

2165
01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:11,639
Speaker 1: saw it. Yeah, it was great. I'm pretty sure Calvin

2166
01:45:11,680 --> 01:45:13,400
Speaker 1: Benjamin is going to be one of the most important

2167
01:45:13,439 --> 01:45:18,599
Speaker 1: players on the Bills. That's um. The ability he showed

2168
01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:21,160
Speaker 1: the other nights plays and on field and make some

2169
01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:24,040
Speaker 1: catches and score some touchdowns was impressive. To me, what

2170
01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:28,200
Speaker 1: do you guys think? Yeah, I agree with you, Dan,

2171
01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:30,639
Speaker 1: There's no questions. He's one of the most important offensive

2172
01:45:30,640 --> 01:45:32,280
Speaker 1: players when you get into the throwing game. He's the

2173
01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 1: one guy that they can depend on. He's he's an

2174
01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:37,200
Speaker 1: automatic win in a one on one situation. You're never

2175
01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:39,760
Speaker 1: gonna hesitate no matter who's guarding him to give him

2176
01:45:39,800 --> 01:45:42,560
Speaker 1: a chance to catch it. Every team needs that. It

2177
01:45:42,760 --> 01:45:44,960
Speaker 1: forces the defense to do some different things in the

2178
01:45:45,040 --> 01:45:48,080
Speaker 1: back end in their secondary to account for him, either

2179
01:45:48,160 --> 01:45:51,040
Speaker 1: running a lineback around underneath him, keeping keeping a corner

2180
01:45:51,120 --> 01:45:53,880
Speaker 1: or safety over the top of him, or double him

2181
01:45:53,960 --> 01:45:56,519
Speaker 1: with a safety inside outside bracketing. There's a lot of

2182
01:45:56,520 --> 01:45:59,599
Speaker 1: different techniques you can use to bracket or to double

2183
01:45:59,640 --> 01:46:01,880
Speaker 1: team guy. He's going to force him to do that,

2184
01:46:02,040 --> 01:46:05,080
Speaker 1: particularly if the two the quarterbacks that are throwing the

2185
01:46:05,120 --> 01:46:07,960
Speaker 1: ball tend to make him their number one option. They're

2186
01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:10,680
Speaker 1: gonna have to do their best to try and take

2187
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:13,599
Speaker 1: him away as many ways and as many different ways

2188
01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:16,120
Speaker 1: as they can. And um, I agree with you. Kelvin.

2189
01:46:16,160 --> 01:46:18,240
Speaker 1: Benjamin Is has had it. He's had a good camp.

2190
01:46:18,320 --> 01:46:20,280
Speaker 1: Him and I were talking about he's playing well. The

2191
01:46:20,640 --> 01:46:25,960
Speaker 1: game was evidence of that, and I think it's going

2192
01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:29,160
Speaker 1: to continue into the regular season. Hopefully they throw him

2193
01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:31,519
Speaker 1: the ball, you know, ten times a game. Hey Dan,

2194
01:46:31,560 --> 01:46:33,000
Speaker 1: do you live up there in Glen Lake or your

2195
01:46:33,080 --> 01:46:36,840
Speaker 1: vacation or I live in Hudson Fall is actually born

2196
01:46:36,920 --> 01:46:45,240
Speaker 1: in Brockport, New York. Excellent? All right, here's here's the

2197
01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:48,400
Speaker 1: perfect end to your week. At some point today tomorrow,

2198
01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:51,000
Speaker 1: maybe too late today, head over to Saratoga as long

2199
01:46:51,040 --> 01:46:53,240
Speaker 1: as you're in that area, right, make it, make it

2200
01:46:53,320 --> 01:46:59,240
Speaker 1: the complete weekend, Dan, He'll bet the ponies horse rate expert.

2201
01:46:59,720 --> 01:47:03,240
Speaker 1: Send me some tips, all right, I will. I know

2202
01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:05,479
Speaker 1: a little bit about it. Thanks, Dan. Can you tell

2203
01:47:05,520 --> 01:47:07,840
Speaker 1: where jealous Steve knows this. We drive down here and

2204
01:47:07,960 --> 01:47:09,840
Speaker 1: every once in a while will pass or somebody will

2205
01:47:09,880 --> 01:47:12,639
Speaker 1: pass us a car full of vacationers. And we're driving

2206
01:47:12,960 --> 01:47:14,600
Speaker 1: down here at six thirty in the morning, kyaks on

2207
01:47:14,640 --> 01:47:16,960
Speaker 1: the route and one of those people, what are we

2208
01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:19,160
Speaker 1: doing wrong? We're going to work six thirty on a

2209
01:47:19,200 --> 01:47:21,800
Speaker 1: weekday morning. These people are on vacation coming down here

2210
01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:23,280
Speaker 1: in the threw way. I get it. We love our job.

2211
01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:26,160
Speaker 1: We don't complaining, but we do his picture. That was

2212
01:47:26,200 --> 01:47:29,040
Speaker 1: a game change. That was that was for those of

2213
01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:30,519
Speaker 1: you who can't see it or don't see it. He

2214
01:47:31,040 --> 01:47:33,000
Speaker 1: he's sitting in a kayak and he's looking off the

2215
01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:35,040
Speaker 1: front of the kayak, and a fishing rod's going right

2216
01:47:35,080 --> 01:47:36,519
Speaker 1: off the end of the kayak, and he's right in

2217
01:47:36,520 --> 01:47:40,800
Speaker 1: the middle of the lake, sunny, bright, fantastic. It was yeah,

2218
01:47:41,479 --> 01:47:44,320
Speaker 1: that turned us green within. Thanks Dan, we appreciate that.

2219
01:47:44,640 --> 01:47:46,880
Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tasker. We're coming to you live from

2220
01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:49,960
Speaker 1: a Bill's camp which is wrapping up there, tearing it down.

2221
01:47:50,040 --> 01:47:52,439
Speaker 1: You can hear the construction equipment behind us. Think you

2222
01:47:52,479 --> 01:47:55,400
Speaker 1: can hear it pretty queerly clearly as the Bills make

2223
01:47:55,439 --> 01:47:57,920
Speaker 1: their way up to Orchard Park. They're gonna be up

2224
01:47:57,920 --> 01:47:59,920
Speaker 1: there on Orchard Park with a walk through practice tomorrow.

2225
01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:03,320
Speaker 1: I know that some of the players talked to the media.

2226
01:48:03,680 --> 01:48:06,200
Speaker 1: I believe we have some of that in the rundown here,

2227
01:48:08,280 --> 01:48:10,960
Speaker 1: and some of this is from last night. One of

2228
01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:13,599
Speaker 1: the things that has happened here in the last few days. Steven,

2229
01:48:13,640 --> 01:48:15,240
Speaker 1: I want to get to our all camp players in

2230
01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:19,200
Speaker 1: a moment. But Corey Coleman, I think has had a

2231
01:48:19,320 --> 01:48:22,559
Speaker 1: chance to show what he's gotten. I don't know where

2232
01:48:22,560 --> 01:48:24,400
Speaker 1: I was going to turn out for Corey Coleman. But

2233
01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:27,400
Speaker 1: Corey Coleman talked a little bit about he's been here

2234
01:48:27,400 --> 01:48:30,599
Speaker 1: a week now, got here eight days ago, actually in camp,

2235
01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:33,439
Speaker 1: working out, getting reps with the ones and the three,

2236
01:48:33,520 --> 01:48:35,720
Speaker 1: so all of that. Over the last few days. He

2237
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:37,960
Speaker 1: talked to reporters though, about his feelings in camp so

2238
01:48:38,080 --> 01:48:40,280
Speaker 1: far and about going back to Cleveland to play the

2239
01:48:40,320 --> 01:48:43,640
Speaker 1: Browns this week. Here's what he had to say. I

2240
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:47,040
Speaker 1: feel pretty good. I'll tell you a book coming along well,

2241
01:48:48,560 --> 01:48:51,720
Speaker 1: and I'm excited to be What kind of expectations do

2242
01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:54,599
Speaker 1: you have for yourself and how quickly did you get

2243
01:48:54,640 --> 01:48:59,760
Speaker 1: in the next year? Got big expectations from myself, and

2244
01:49:00,360 --> 01:49:02,080
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just doing what the coaches that playing

2245
01:49:02,120 --> 01:49:04,200
Speaker 1: for me, and I haven't really talked about how much

2246
01:49:04,240 --> 01:49:06,120
Speaker 1: of my play and stuff. I know I'm gonna get

2247
01:49:06,160 --> 01:49:09,400
Speaker 1: out there, Um, you know, get out there, play hard

2248
01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:12,400
Speaker 1: for this team in this organization. If there's one advantage,

2249
01:49:12,720 --> 01:49:16,000
Speaker 1: you know that personnel pretty well going against him practice,

2250
01:49:16,120 --> 01:49:18,439
Speaker 1: you know, so come Friday, might that be at least

2251
01:49:18,479 --> 01:49:20,559
Speaker 1: one thing that's familiar for you as you go out

2252
01:49:20,600 --> 01:49:22,280
Speaker 1: there and try to play fast? Right? You know? I

2253
01:49:22,360 --> 01:49:26,040
Speaker 1: got a few friends, well, yeah, a couple of friends

2254
01:49:26,120 --> 01:49:30,040
Speaker 1: really close friends on that team. You know, it's different

2255
01:49:30,040 --> 01:49:33,280
Speaker 1: from the game practice. I go out there and just compete,

2256
01:49:33,680 --> 01:49:35,360
Speaker 1: but you know the stadium as well, right, I mean,

2257
01:49:35,560 --> 01:49:38,320
Speaker 1: the surroundings will be very familiar with all right. Yeah.

2258
01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:42,800
Speaker 1: By the way, Corey Coleman was a featured player in

2259
01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:45,200
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks last night. We're gonna watch and listen to

2260
01:49:45,280 --> 01:49:47,280
Speaker 1: a clip of that coming a little bit later on

2261
01:49:47,400 --> 01:49:49,920
Speaker 1: in the show. I said this to Chris Brown earlier

2262
01:49:49,960 --> 01:49:52,479
Speaker 1: this week, Steve, I believe this is a critical week

2263
01:49:52,520 --> 01:49:55,200
Speaker 1: for Corey Coleman and maybe to a lesser extent, but

2264
01:49:55,400 --> 01:49:59,360
Speaker 1: equally important. I think almost equally important, Zay Jones. I mean, look,

2265
01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:03,040
Speaker 1: they got two guys added to the receiving group this week,

2266
01:50:03,720 --> 01:50:05,360
Speaker 1: one of them a former first rounder, one of them

2267
01:50:05,360 --> 01:50:08,519
Speaker 1: a second rounder. You're kind of counting on those guys

2268
01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:11,000
Speaker 1: just because of their status. I know Corey Coleman's history

2269
01:50:11,040 --> 01:50:14,040
Speaker 1: and the problems in Cleveland, but these are talented players

2270
01:50:14,120 --> 01:50:16,880
Speaker 1: that were injected into the lineup this week. This is

2271
01:50:16,920 --> 01:50:19,479
Speaker 1: important for the Bills moving forward this year as far

2272
01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:22,160
Speaker 1: as the receiving corps. To add a former second rounder

2273
01:50:22,200 --> 01:50:23,800
Speaker 1: and a former first rounder, they both get on the

2274
01:50:23,840 --> 01:50:26,600
Speaker 1: field this week, Sunday on Monday. That's important for the

2275
01:50:26,680 --> 01:50:29,439
Speaker 1: Bills more and those players. I believe, yeah, absolutely, and

2276
01:50:29,560 --> 01:50:33,080
Speaker 1: I agree with her percent. But it's this week is

2277
01:50:34,240 --> 01:50:38,559
Speaker 1: this preseason has so many intriguing storylines. Corey Coleman get

2278
01:50:38,720 --> 01:50:42,400
Speaker 1: just kind of parachutes into the scene last weekend as

2279
01:50:42,439 --> 01:50:45,080
Speaker 1: a first round draft pick, a high first round draft pick.

2280
01:50:45,120 --> 01:50:47,080
Speaker 1: He's got a lot of physical ability. When you look

2281
01:50:47,080 --> 01:50:51,080
Speaker 1: at him, he's a thick built wide receiver and you know,

2282
01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:53,040
Speaker 1: and even the hard knocks clip that will show you

2283
01:50:53,960 --> 01:50:56,759
Speaker 1: you can tell he's frustrated with what's going on in Cleveland.

2284
01:50:56,920 --> 01:50:59,080
Speaker 1: And you talk about the problems he had in Cleveland.

2285
01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:02,920
Speaker 1: He had a broken and twice yep, and you know,

2286
01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:04,680
Speaker 1: how does it you know, how do you hold that

2287
01:51:04,760 --> 01:51:08,200
Speaker 1: against him? So if you if you're gonna go to problems,

2288
01:51:08,520 --> 01:51:10,719
Speaker 1: it hasn't been that he hasn't been productive. It hasn't

2289
01:51:10,720 --> 01:51:12,479
Speaker 1: been that it has been that he hasn't been productive,

2290
01:51:12,479 --> 01:51:13,960
Speaker 1: But it hasn't been that he hasn't been working hard

2291
01:51:14,280 --> 01:51:16,000
Speaker 1: all the other stuff that goes in. He just has

2292
01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:18,640
Speaker 1: been injured. And now when you get out and Hugh

2293
01:51:18,760 --> 01:51:20,880
Speaker 1: Jackson come into his second year and nobody was helping

2294
01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:23,519
Speaker 1: him last year with all the stuff going with Josh

2295
01:51:23,600 --> 01:51:25,600
Speaker 1: Gordon as well. I mean, there's a lot going on

2296
01:51:25,720 --> 01:51:28,439
Speaker 1: in Cleveland that would not be conducive to a young

2297
01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:33,160
Speaker 1: player contributing right or developing. We're getting better. We're gonna

2298
01:51:33,439 --> 01:51:35,800
Speaker 1: talk about that segment from Hard Knocks and Corey Coleman

2299
01:51:35,840 --> 01:51:37,680
Speaker 1: in the moment next segment here, but we want to

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01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:39,320
Speaker 1: take this time now to talk about the end of

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01:51:39,439 --> 01:51:41,719
Speaker 1: camp and Steve and I gern name are all Bills

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01:51:41,760 --> 01:51:43,920
Speaker 1: camp performers for the last three weeks. We've been there

2303
01:51:43,960 --> 01:51:46,599
Speaker 1: three weeks, about thirteen practices. We've seen him all of them,

2304
01:51:46,640 --> 01:51:48,680
Speaker 1: if not most of them, not all of them. Go

2305
01:51:48,840 --> 01:51:52,080
Speaker 1: through each position group and name the best, the standout,

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01:51:52,160 --> 01:51:55,240
Speaker 1: the all star. Um Let's start at wide receiver, All

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01:51:55,320 --> 01:51:58,479
Speaker 1: Camp wide receiver. I'm going to my all Camp member

2308
01:51:58,640 --> 01:52:00,720
Speaker 1: is Kelvin Benjamin. I talked about earlier. I thought he

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01:52:00,760 --> 01:52:02,920
Speaker 1: was the offensive MVP here. Yeah, and there's no question

2310
01:52:02,960 --> 01:52:05,280
Speaker 1: I agree with you. He's he's been the most steady

2311
01:52:05,320 --> 01:52:08,559
Speaker 1: performer in the game. It showed the quarterbacks like him.

2312
01:52:08,600 --> 01:52:10,600
Speaker 1: He's uh, they're throwing him in football. He's got a

2313
01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:12,840
Speaker 1: great catch ready. As he came back in great shape

2314
01:52:12,840 --> 01:52:15,639
Speaker 1: and has practiced hard and he hasn't missed a rep.

2315
01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:18,200
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy's there and that says a lot

2316
01:52:18,240 --> 01:52:19,920
Speaker 1: about it. Where his mind is at is what about

2317
01:52:19,960 --> 01:52:22,320
Speaker 1: other agree with you? Passing game targets? You're all camp

2318
01:52:22,479 --> 01:52:25,760
Speaker 1: tight end? Who do you have? Ste Well, Charles Clay

2319
01:52:25,840 --> 01:52:28,200
Speaker 1: is great, but I want to go a little bit

2320
01:52:28,280 --> 01:52:30,040
Speaker 1: lower than I said that as well. One of my

2321
01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:33,599
Speaker 1: surprise players was Jason Krum, but I think also Logan Thomas.

2322
01:52:35,439 --> 01:52:39,200
Speaker 1: He has emerged as being a well routed Logan Thomas

2323
01:52:39,240 --> 01:52:41,720
Speaker 1: started as a quarterback and he made the switch. He's

2324
01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:45,040
Speaker 1: a big six six, two hundred and fifty pound guy

2325
01:52:46,280 --> 01:52:49,240
Speaker 1: who's who's got an who had an entire skill set

2326
01:52:49,320 --> 01:52:53,519
Speaker 1: to relearn playing and he's doing it. He is getting

2327
01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:57,080
Speaker 1: it done. He's doing some hard physical work down inside

2328
01:52:57,160 --> 01:52:59,519
Speaker 1: in blocking game, in the run game, and he's also

2329
01:52:59,600 --> 01:53:01,960
Speaker 1: a great athlete to be catching passes. I think he

2330
01:53:02,080 --> 01:53:05,000
Speaker 1: has really emerged as a guy that is a surprise

2331
01:53:05,040 --> 01:53:07,560
Speaker 1: at camp now. I think, no question, Charles Clay is

2332
01:53:07,560 --> 01:53:10,200
Speaker 1: the number one, But I think Logan Thomas did more

2333
01:53:10,280 --> 01:53:12,519
Speaker 1: for his career this training camp than maybe at any

2334
01:53:12,560 --> 01:53:14,880
Speaker 1: point in his career thus far. All Bill's Camp twenty

2335
01:53:14,960 --> 01:53:17,680
Speaker 1: eighteen running back. Look, McCoy is the guy, He's the

2336
01:53:17,720 --> 01:53:20,240
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl guy. But I really like what I've seen,

2337
01:53:20,400 --> 01:53:22,320
Speaker 1: especially the last week and a half two weeks from

2338
01:53:22,320 --> 01:53:24,880
Speaker 1: Marcus Murphy, who was on the roster at the end

2339
01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:28,120
Speaker 1: last year. He's got a great combination of kind of

2340
01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:31,640
Speaker 1: power and speed. He's practicing hard, He's he had a

2341
01:53:31,680 --> 01:53:34,439
Speaker 1: big game I thought last week against Carolina, and I

2342
01:53:34,479 --> 01:53:36,040
Speaker 1: expect to see more from him. I'm gonna go with

2343
01:53:36,120 --> 01:53:39,479
Speaker 1: Marcus Murphy as my all camp Bill's running back. Yeah,

2344
01:53:39,479 --> 01:53:41,719
Speaker 1: I agree to Marcus Murphy is the guy. He agreed.

2345
01:53:41,800 --> 01:53:43,600
Speaker 1: Now I have to agree on this one. I'm not

2346
01:53:43,640 --> 01:53:45,439
Speaker 1: probably not gonna agree with you on the offensive line.

2347
01:53:45,760 --> 01:53:49,200
Speaker 1: But I think the surprise is that Treverius Cadet didn't

2348
01:53:49,200 --> 01:53:51,040
Speaker 1: come in and make a statement about where, you know,

2349
01:53:51,280 --> 01:53:53,200
Speaker 1: kind of claimed that spot for himself, and he hasn't

2350
01:53:53,240 --> 01:53:55,920
Speaker 1: been able to do that. Marcus Murphy, who has been

2351
01:53:55,960 --> 01:53:58,680
Speaker 1: around the league for a minute, has really come in

2352
01:53:58,800 --> 01:54:02,040
Speaker 1: and grasped that and shown up shown why they signed him.

2353
01:54:02,080 --> 01:54:04,880
Speaker 1: And yet another running back in a long list that

2354
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:07,479
Speaker 1: have surprised a lot of people in Buffalo. Playing behind

2355
01:54:07,520 --> 01:54:12,040
Speaker 1: Shady McCoy all camp offensive line, who's been the standout

2356
01:54:12,080 --> 01:54:17,640
Speaker 1: performer on the offensive line. It has to be for me.

2357
01:54:22,040 --> 01:54:25,400
Speaker 1: John Miller, Okay, John Miller's a guy came in, He's

2358
01:54:25,680 --> 01:54:27,839
Speaker 1: he's going into his third year. He came out, struggled

2359
01:54:27,840 --> 01:54:30,720
Speaker 1: in his first year, and then made the most significant

2360
01:54:30,760 --> 01:54:33,600
Speaker 1: improvement of any player you'll ever witness in his second year.

2361
01:54:33,640 --> 01:54:36,080
Speaker 1: As it started then last year with the coaching change,

2362
01:54:36,120 --> 01:54:38,880
Speaker 1: in the philosophy change, he struggled mightily when they went

2363
01:54:38,920 --> 01:54:41,120
Speaker 1: to that zone blocking scheme, more than any other player

2364
01:54:41,160 --> 01:54:43,920
Speaker 1: I think on that offensive line. I think he personified

2365
01:54:44,000 --> 01:54:46,400
Speaker 1: the struggles the running game had early last year, and

2366
01:54:46,480 --> 01:54:48,040
Speaker 1: it's stuck with him. I think the whole year, and

2367
01:54:48,080 --> 01:54:51,040
Speaker 1: the coaching staff really were forced to move away from him.

2368
01:54:51,640 --> 01:54:54,560
Speaker 1: Now he comes back in this training camp and reasserts himself,

2369
01:54:54,560 --> 01:54:57,080
Speaker 1: say listen, I'm gonna play. And that's really it's like

2370
01:54:57,200 --> 01:54:59,000
Speaker 1: he said that to himself, I'm gonna play, and they're

2371
01:54:59,000 --> 01:55:00,680
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to keep me on the bench.

2372
01:55:00,760 --> 01:55:02,560
Speaker 1: And it looks like he's gonna do that. You want

2373
01:55:02,600 --> 01:55:04,680
Speaker 1: to do all camp quarterback now or save it to

2374
01:55:04,760 --> 01:55:09,440
Speaker 1: the end. We can save it all camp. Defensive line,

2375
01:55:09,680 --> 01:55:12,680
Speaker 1: the defense has been good pretty much all Bill's training camp.

2376
01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:15,560
Speaker 1: You know, the injury to Trent Murphy makes that a

2377
01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:18,920
Speaker 1: problem obviously, but all camp defensive line, I'm going with

2378
01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:22,000
Speaker 1: Shack Lawson, Steve, I take your guy, Yeah, took Look,

2379
01:55:22,280 --> 01:55:24,160
Speaker 1: he's he came in ready to go right from the

2380
01:55:24,200 --> 01:55:27,320
Speaker 1: first training camp practice and he continues. Brownie made a

2381
01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:30,200
Speaker 1: big point and he's right about Shack Lawson knocking down passes.

2382
01:55:30,280 --> 01:55:33,120
Speaker 1: Now he's found that to be a strong part of

2383
01:55:33,160 --> 01:55:35,480
Speaker 1: his game. There have been good players up front, including

2384
01:55:35,520 --> 01:55:38,200
Speaker 1: a you know, Star Lotu Lay, Harrison Phillips. But I

2385
01:55:38,280 --> 01:55:41,120
Speaker 1: got Shack Lawson as my all camp, all training camp

2386
01:55:41,200 --> 01:55:43,920
Speaker 1: defensive lineman. Yeah. If you want somebody alternating with that,

2387
01:55:44,320 --> 01:55:46,640
Speaker 1: I would have to say Star Lotu La. He has

2388
01:55:47,200 --> 01:55:49,760
Speaker 1: been a guy who has also not only has he

2389
01:55:49,840 --> 01:55:54,080
Speaker 1: played extremely well, he's a big force down inside and

2390
01:55:54,120 --> 01:55:57,440
Speaker 1: he got plugged in right at the right defensive tackle spot.

2391
01:55:58,360 --> 01:56:01,320
Speaker 1: But also there are stories coming out now that he

2392
01:56:01,560 --> 01:56:04,080
Speaker 1: has been an example of how you do it. You

2393
01:56:04,200 --> 01:56:05,960
Speaker 1: don't just take a day off when they give you

2394
01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:07,280
Speaker 1: a day off. You take a day off when you

2395
01:56:07,400 --> 01:56:09,680
Speaker 1: need one physically, But when you need to take a rep,

2396
01:56:09,720 --> 01:56:11,080
Speaker 1: you go out there and take a rep. It doesn't

2397
01:56:11,080 --> 01:56:13,840
Speaker 1: matter if it's early in practice, latent practice. When you're

2398
01:56:13,880 --> 01:56:16,520
Speaker 1: on the field, you're on the field. Starloto Lele has

2399
01:56:16,560 --> 01:56:19,560
Speaker 1: set a standard for Listen, I'm here, I'm gonna work hard,

2400
01:56:19,840 --> 01:56:22,000
Speaker 1: and so are you guys. And I think that's been

2401
01:56:22,040 --> 01:56:24,720
Speaker 1: a big boost for this and for the culture. And

2402
01:56:25,120 --> 01:56:27,080
Speaker 1: I think you got to give him an honorable mention there,

2403
01:56:27,240 --> 01:56:31,040
Speaker 1: All camp linebacker, what do you like Tremaine Edmonds? Okay,

2404
01:56:31,160 --> 01:56:33,360
Speaker 1: he's the guy. I mean, his ability, I think, not

2405
01:56:33,480 --> 01:56:35,000
Speaker 1: so much in his play. We didn't see him. He

2406
01:56:35,040 --> 01:56:37,560
Speaker 1: made one tackle in the game against Carolina. But you

2407
01:56:37,680 --> 01:56:41,520
Speaker 1: know what, the heads he's turned, the eyes he's opened

2408
01:56:41,560 --> 01:56:43,720
Speaker 1: on the roster, the players on the defensive side of

2409
01:56:43,760 --> 01:56:45,560
Speaker 1: the ball looking at him, trying, Okay, let's see what

2410
01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:47,600
Speaker 1: you got. And he has come through with flying colors.

2411
01:56:47,720 --> 01:56:50,120
Speaker 1: Every test they've given him, he has passed. And not

2412
01:56:50,240 --> 01:56:51,920
Speaker 1: only passed, he's ace. I'd go with you on that.

2413
01:56:52,280 --> 01:56:54,320
Speaker 1: I will say Dion Lacy has had a good camp

2414
01:56:54,360 --> 01:56:56,560
Speaker 1: and I would consider him. And finally, I'll throw corners

2415
01:56:56,600 --> 01:57:01,800
Speaker 1: and safeties together, all camp defensive back. Tavius come on, Yeah,

2416
01:57:02,000 --> 01:57:05,360
Speaker 1: safeties are good, including Raphael Bush. Rafael Bush, I mean,

2417
01:57:05,920 --> 01:57:07,960
Speaker 1: he's another one, but Yeah, Tredavious night. We talked about

2418
01:57:08,000 --> 01:57:09,920
Speaker 1: it earlier in the show. When that that first snap

2419
01:57:09,960 --> 01:57:12,560
Speaker 1: of camp, he set the standing. He hasn't stopped. Yep,

2420
01:57:12,640 --> 01:57:14,400
Speaker 1: I mean you want he dances on. I mean he's

2421
01:57:14,480 --> 01:57:16,440
Speaker 1: dancing all over the place. He's having a lot of fun.

2422
01:57:16,520 --> 01:57:19,080
Speaker 1: He sets, you know, a great example for the young guys.

2423
01:57:19,200 --> 01:57:21,400
Speaker 1: He works hard. I mean he comes off the field

2424
01:57:21,400 --> 01:57:23,560
Speaker 1: with a big smile up case and he's drenched in

2425
01:57:23,640 --> 01:57:27,520
Speaker 1: sweat works. He works so hard and um just what

2426
01:57:27,720 --> 01:57:30,920
Speaker 1: a what a great great guy to have starting corner

2427
01:57:31,040 --> 01:57:33,520
Speaker 1: for you. Yep, we into quarterbacks. We'll do that when

2428
01:57:33,520 --> 01:57:36,320
Speaker 1: we return, because that's the tough one. That's when teas

2429
01:57:36,440 --> 01:57:38,680
Speaker 1: I got Hey, y we're coming back with more. We

2430
01:57:38,960 --> 01:57:41,440
Speaker 1: couldn't have tried to do uh NFL true and false,

2431
01:57:41,760 --> 01:57:44,000
Speaker 1: So come on back. It is One Bill's Live from

2432
01:57:44,120 --> 01:57:47,240
Speaker 1: Raining Saint John Fisher College Bills training camp rapping up today.

2433
01:57:47,480 --> 01:58:07,560
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio, the last few minutes of

2434
01:58:07,640 --> 01:58:11,000
Speaker 1: our training camp camp out. We've been here for three weeks.

2435
01:58:11,040 --> 01:58:12,960
Speaker 1: We love it here. I've I've enjoyed this Steve more

2436
01:58:13,000 --> 01:58:15,000
Speaker 1: than any more than recent years here camp. I think

2437
01:58:15,040 --> 01:58:17,440
Speaker 1: the show has been excellent. You've been pretty good. I

2438
01:58:17,520 --> 01:58:21,520
Speaker 1: think the shows, no, yeah, maybe no. I just think

2439
01:58:21,560 --> 01:58:24,120
Speaker 1: we've had good We've had great guests, are set up

2440
01:58:24,240 --> 01:58:27,600
Speaker 1: is fantastic. Just bad weather the last couple of days,

2441
01:58:28,280 --> 01:58:31,120
Speaker 1: yesterday and today. I mean, we just had a pretty

2442
01:58:31,160 --> 01:58:34,800
Speaker 1: severe rainstorm. It's like a fire hoses and it came

2443
01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:36,400
Speaker 1: up in two minutes and was gone in two minutes.

2444
01:58:36,480 --> 01:58:38,160
Speaker 1: No big deal, we can handle that. No, I've barely

2445
01:58:38,200 --> 01:58:41,000
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. I gotta be honest with you that, Um,

2446
01:58:41,360 --> 01:58:43,360
Speaker 1: I think it ran for I think for the show

2447
01:58:43,760 --> 01:58:46,600
Speaker 1: seemingly it ran a lot smoother this year. Um, well,

2448
01:58:46,600 --> 01:58:48,320
Speaker 1: you weren't even here last year. We know, but I'm saying,

2449
01:58:48,320 --> 01:58:49,640
Speaker 1: because I can tell by the way you and Jay

2450
01:58:49,720 --> 01:58:53,520
Speaker 1: talk about it, you weren't even here. I'm just what

2451
01:58:53,600 --> 01:58:55,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You guys have been very happy with the

2452
01:58:55,360 --> 01:58:57,840
Speaker 1: way the show's run this year. Kid, thank you shot

2453
01:58:57,880 --> 01:58:59,680
Speaker 1: at us about last year shows. I'm not saying a

2454
01:58:59,680 --> 01:59:01,680
Speaker 1: shot you. I'm just saying the camp was much more

2455
01:59:01,760 --> 01:59:03,440
Speaker 1: conducive to having a good show. We have a better

2456
01:59:03,520 --> 01:59:05,440
Speaker 1: set up. We have a great team with That's what

2457
01:59:05,560 --> 01:59:08,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And James and of course Jay, we have

2458
01:59:08,440 --> 01:59:10,680
Speaker 1: a great set up here. Kelly back at the studio.

2459
01:59:10,760 --> 01:59:13,120
Speaker 1: I got it. Okay. I'm just saying I can tell

2460
01:59:13,200 --> 01:59:15,919
Speaker 1: that you guys are I'm not taking shots at anybody.

2461
01:59:15,960 --> 01:59:17,960
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I can tell you guys feel it

2462
01:59:18,080 --> 01:59:20,640
Speaker 1: was improved. It is good. It's very good and where

2463
01:59:20,760 --> 01:59:22,320
Speaker 1: I am sorry to see it come doing end. Even

2464
01:59:22,360 --> 01:59:24,120
Speaker 1: with a little race saying nothing else was different, it

2465
01:59:24,240 --> 01:59:26,600
Speaker 1: was just me, Oh, there's been a lot different, right then,

2466
01:59:26,680 --> 01:59:28,720
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Yeah, there's been a lot different.

2467
01:59:28,760 --> 01:59:31,600
Speaker 1: You're gonna get a touchy All Fisher. We used to

2468
01:59:31,640 --> 01:59:33,200
Speaker 1: have all Free and you're back in the day. This

2469
01:59:33,320 --> 01:59:35,560
Speaker 1: is All Fisher All Bills Camp twenty eighteen. We left

2470
01:59:35,600 --> 01:59:39,360
Speaker 1: out quarterback. Go ahead, you can go first. I'm still debating.

2471
01:59:39,360 --> 01:59:41,200
Speaker 1: I don't know who I would pick. Here's the guy

2472
01:59:41,200 --> 01:59:44,600
Speaker 1: I would pick is Nathan Peterman. Here's a guy that

2473
01:59:44,680 --> 01:59:47,960
Speaker 1: comes in. He hung in there last year, had a

2474
01:59:48,000 --> 01:59:50,680
Speaker 1: great camp last year, got himself a roster spot last

2475
01:59:50,720 --> 01:59:52,920
Speaker 1: year as a quarterback in the National Football League as

2476
01:59:52,920 --> 01:59:56,040
Speaker 1: a backup to an incumbent quarterback that says something had

2477
01:59:56,080 --> 01:59:57,840
Speaker 1: the year go the way it was. Then they go

2478
01:59:57,880 --> 02:00:00,400
Speaker 1: out and they draft a guy number one uh in

2479
02:00:00,480 --> 02:00:04,840
Speaker 1: the draft. Sixteenth or a seventh overall, They sign a

2480
02:00:05,000 --> 02:00:09,160
Speaker 1: free agent for a seven figure contract. Actually it's a

2481
02:00:09,240 --> 02:00:16,960
Speaker 1: ten figure contract, No eight figure contract, fourteen million AJ McCarron.

2482
02:00:17,000 --> 02:00:18,920
Speaker 1: He's seven and a half million per year for two years.

2483
02:00:19,680 --> 02:00:21,280
Speaker 1: So they sign a guy for that kind of money

2484
02:00:21,800 --> 02:00:24,120
Speaker 1: and it's not great quarterback money, but go ahead. But yeah,

2485
02:00:24,280 --> 02:00:28,160
Speaker 1: but nevertheless, what's Nathan Peterman making? Right? So he sees

2486
02:00:28,160 --> 02:00:30,240
Speaker 1: all this happen. They draft a guy, they sign a

2487
02:00:30,280 --> 02:00:32,640
Speaker 1: free agent, and yet he's the guy that starts in

2488
02:00:32,720 --> 02:00:34,880
Speaker 1: the first preseason game, do you He's the guy that's

2489
02:00:34,920 --> 02:00:37,080
Speaker 1: actually and he's in the mix. He's in the mix,

2490
02:00:37,280 --> 02:00:39,120
Speaker 1: and I think that says a lot about the guy.

2491
02:00:41,360 --> 02:00:43,080
Speaker 1: A great guy. He's gonna play and I think he's

2492
02:00:43,120 --> 02:00:44,880
Speaker 1: gonna play in the league for a long long time. Now.

2493
02:00:44,920 --> 02:00:47,080
Speaker 1: Maybe it's gonna be a Josh Allen, I mean a

2494
02:00:47,920 --> 02:00:50,200
Speaker 1: Josh McCown type of career where he plugged in or

2495
02:00:50,200 --> 02:00:54,280
Speaker 1: a or a you know fits you know, yeah, Fitzpatrick

2496
02:00:54,640 --> 02:00:57,600
Speaker 1: kind of. But he's gonna be around for a long time.

2497
02:00:57,600 --> 02:00:59,000
Speaker 1: I didn't know this about him, and I heard him

2498
02:00:59,000 --> 02:01:01,760
Speaker 1: this morning. Nine note Howard Simon show. He wants to

2499
02:01:02,000 --> 02:01:03,640
Speaker 1: be he wants to be a general manager when his

2500
02:01:03,680 --> 02:01:06,280
Speaker 1: football career playing career is done. He wants to be

2501
02:01:06,280 --> 02:01:07,880
Speaker 1: around the game. He wants to be an NFL GM.

2502
02:01:08,160 --> 02:01:11,520
Speaker 1: Did Yeah, most people look at the coach. No, he says,

2503
02:01:11,560 --> 02:01:13,200
Speaker 1: he wants me a GM run a team. It's kind

2504
02:01:13,200 --> 02:01:15,320
Speaker 1: of cool. I talked to him about that. They get

2505
02:01:15,320 --> 02:01:17,400
Speaker 1: a chance. That's a good idea. Yeah, I don't have

2506
02:01:17,480 --> 02:01:19,360
Speaker 1: a quarter I guess I have to name one all

2507
02:01:19,440 --> 02:01:22,360
Speaker 1: training camp quarterback. I'll go with Josh Allen. I mean,

2508
02:01:22,400 --> 02:01:25,320
Speaker 1: he's made the biggest throws, He's made the most spectacular plays.

2509
02:01:25,520 --> 02:01:28,160
Speaker 1: You're still predictable. He's made Uh, he's made more than

2510
02:01:28,280 --> 02:01:31,440
Speaker 1: spectacular throws too, some some rough ones from time to time.

2511
02:01:31,480 --> 02:01:34,000
Speaker 1: But he's the most talented quarterback. Here are you leaving

2512
02:01:34,000 --> 02:01:39,120
Speaker 1: because I picked Josh Allen? Anyway, that's our training camp team. Hey,

2513
02:01:39,240 --> 02:01:41,360
Speaker 1: this hap we talked. We heard from Corey Coleman a

2514
02:01:41,400 --> 02:01:43,520
Speaker 1: little bit ago, and he was kind of the featured

2515
02:01:43,600 --> 02:01:46,920
Speaker 1: guy on HBO's Hard Knocks Last Night, episode two last night.

2516
02:01:47,000 --> 02:01:49,000
Speaker 1: I haven't seen the whole show. I did see this

2517
02:01:49,120 --> 02:01:51,640
Speaker 1: clip and it's interesting. It's basically the story of how

2518
02:01:51,720 --> 02:01:55,080
Speaker 1: Corey Coleman found his way to Buffalo that he had

2519
02:01:55,120 --> 02:01:59,240
Speaker 1: a problems in camp. Uh. Todd Hailey, the offensive coordinator,

2520
02:01:59,360 --> 02:02:01,720
Speaker 1: was not a fan of the way he played, and

2521
02:02:02,080 --> 02:02:04,880
Speaker 1: um they demoted him and that led to Corey Coleman

2522
02:02:05,000 --> 02:02:07,280
Speaker 1: requesting the trade. Here's what it looked like and sounded

2523
02:02:07,360 --> 02:02:09,920
Speaker 1: like last night on HBO Hard Knocks with Corey Coleman,

2524
02:02:10,440 --> 02:02:12,520
Speaker 1: and you'll hear him talking to his coach, Hugh Jackson,

2525
02:02:19,480 --> 02:02:24,000
Speaker 1: kay in the red tone, making a mental or giving

2526
02:02:24,080 --> 02:02:25,920
Speaker 1: up on the ball on the inside. It's in your

2527
02:02:26,520 --> 02:02:30,960
Speaker 1: chastel when in my chest. That's about what it's been. Yeah,

2528
02:02:30,960 --> 02:02:33,480
Speaker 1: if you can tell, you show me otherwise I'll get excited.

2529
02:02:33,600 --> 02:02:36,640
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm not. I think he looks around. He's

2530
02:02:36,680 --> 02:02:38,600
Speaker 1: a distracted done run one of the goat is he

2531
02:02:38,680 --> 02:02:43,800
Speaker 1: look at he's running five miles an hour. We just

2532
02:02:43,880 --> 02:02:52,720
Speaker 1: gotta get his brain right, Corey, what was happening? His point, well,

2533
02:02:52,760 --> 02:02:56,680
Speaker 1: I'm a run the second team, please, I'm a second team.

2534
02:02:57,720 --> 02:03:03,160
Speaker 1: So well it is tot and it as time. If

2535
02:03:03,160 --> 02:03:10,360
Speaker 1: you don't, Corey Coleman, just trade me. Uh. It was

2536
02:03:10,360 --> 02:03:12,600
Speaker 1: an interesting again they go for the drama on a

2537
02:03:12,640 --> 02:03:14,800
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks. A couple of things there though. Steve Um,

2538
02:03:15,080 --> 02:03:17,040
Speaker 1: first of all Todd Haley, I think was wrong that

2539
02:03:17,240 --> 02:03:19,880
Speaker 1: passed that they showed maybe they're talking about a different one. Well,

2540
02:03:19,880 --> 02:03:22,920
Speaker 1: that's just it. You don't know, you don't know if

2541
02:03:23,000 --> 02:03:26,320
Speaker 1: that's the throw that he actually made and that he

2542
02:03:26,440 --> 02:03:28,520
Speaker 1: was talking about. But he also he said, listen, it

2543
02:03:28,560 --> 02:03:30,360
Speaker 1: doesn't look like he's running hard on the go routes.

2544
02:03:30,360 --> 02:03:31,840
Speaker 1: I mean, there's he's got a lot of issues and

2545
02:03:31,920 --> 02:03:34,080
Speaker 1: tough and most of these coaches are the same when

2546
02:03:34,080 --> 02:03:35,680
Speaker 1: they're not with the players, and when they're with the

2547
02:03:35,760 --> 02:03:38,400
Speaker 1: coaching staff, they pull no punches. They tell them, tell

2548
02:03:38,480 --> 02:03:40,080
Speaker 1: guys what they feel. And it's like what you see

2549
02:03:40,080 --> 02:03:41,960
Speaker 1: Todd Haley doing and say, listen, he's not running hard

2550
02:03:41,960 --> 02:03:44,200
Speaker 1: on you know he's got he's calling him out. He

2551
02:03:44,400 --> 02:03:46,680
Speaker 1: needs him to play better. And that's what that show

2552
02:03:46,800 --> 02:03:48,600
Speaker 1: is all about. And and um, the only thing that

2553
02:03:48,680 --> 02:03:51,560
Speaker 1: got me was Corey Coleman, which I think I kind

2554
02:03:51,560 --> 02:03:53,360
Speaker 1: of applaud. He goes to talk to the head coach,

2555
02:03:53,440 --> 02:03:55,040
Speaker 1: why you demote me? Why am I that with the

2556
02:03:55,080 --> 02:04:00,520
Speaker 1: first team, And Hugh Jackson says it go as Todd, really, coach,

2557
02:04:00,640 --> 02:04:03,240
Speaker 1: head coach, you can't talk to the player, and explained

2558
02:04:03,280 --> 02:04:04,720
Speaker 1: to him, I'm sure he had something to do with

2559
02:04:04,840 --> 02:04:07,160
Speaker 1: the decision. I'm sure it had something to say about

2560
02:04:07,240 --> 02:04:09,520
Speaker 1: that decision. I don't get Hugh Jackson, you know, I

2561
02:04:09,600 --> 02:04:12,120
Speaker 1: really don't go ask Todd as if to say, I'm

2562
02:04:12,160 --> 02:04:14,480
Speaker 1: not going to deal with this as your coordinator. That's

2563
02:04:14,640 --> 02:04:16,680
Speaker 1: that's Huge Jackson has been taking a lot of heat

2564
02:04:16,760 --> 02:04:21,840
Speaker 1: because they've got these big personality coordinators and it's the

2565
02:04:21,960 --> 02:04:25,040
Speaker 1: head coach's job to lead everybody. They've got to be

2566
02:04:25,160 --> 02:04:27,240
Speaker 1: on board with it. They've got to be that guy

2567
02:04:27,480 --> 02:04:30,640
Speaker 1: who you know, sets the tone for everything. They've got

2568
02:04:30,720 --> 02:04:33,360
Speaker 1: to have answers when guys question them. And for Huge

2569
02:04:33,400 --> 02:04:36,840
Speaker 1: Jackson to defer that to an coordinator, it's not good.

2570
02:04:36,880 --> 02:04:38,960
Speaker 1: I was a little surprised by that. Yeah, no question

2571
02:04:39,000 --> 02:04:43,480
Speaker 1: about it, because somebody asked, um, I think Sean mcdermom

2572
02:04:43,520 --> 02:04:46,400
Speaker 1: about it this morning, did you see hard Knocks? What

2573
02:04:46,480 --> 02:04:48,280
Speaker 1: do you think of Corey Coleman? And Sean had not

2574
02:04:48,400 --> 02:04:50,640
Speaker 1: seen it and didn't think much of it. There's nothing

2575
02:04:50,720 --> 02:04:53,720
Speaker 1: there that I think indicts Corey Coleman as as a

2576
02:04:53,800 --> 02:04:56,400
Speaker 1: problem or a guy to be away be wary of.

2577
02:04:56,560 --> 02:04:58,440
Speaker 1: I mean, he needs to play better and needs the

2578
02:04:58,480 --> 02:05:01,200
Speaker 1: catch balls. If he's thrown passes over the middle, and

2579
02:05:01,280 --> 02:05:02,960
Speaker 1: I don't mind him going to ask to be traded.

2580
02:05:03,160 --> 02:05:05,360
Speaker 1: In fact that now that he's with the Buffalo Bills

2581
02:05:05,440 --> 02:05:07,920
Speaker 1: fromer first round or fifteenth overall for a seventh rounder

2582
02:05:07,920 --> 02:05:09,600
Speaker 1: in a couple of years, I'm glad he went and

2583
02:05:09,680 --> 02:05:11,400
Speaker 1: asked to be traded. Well, here's the thing that I

2584
02:05:11,480 --> 02:05:13,080
Speaker 1: get out of it as a player, looking at his

2585
02:05:13,240 --> 02:05:16,960
Speaker 1: mindset going into that. He goes into that office of

2586
02:05:17,040 --> 02:05:22,280
Speaker 1: the head coach and he's visibly frustrated. And that comes

2587
02:05:22,360 --> 02:05:24,160
Speaker 1: from for me, because there's only a couple of things

2588
02:05:24,200 --> 02:05:26,680
Speaker 1: that can comes from one and this is what I

2589
02:05:26,840 --> 02:05:29,080
Speaker 1: think it is. Corey Coleman thinks he can play and

2590
02:05:29,160 --> 02:05:33,400
Speaker 1: he should be playing. He's frustrated that he's not being

2591
02:05:33,560 --> 02:05:36,280
Speaker 1: used or being given the chance or for whatever he's

2592
02:05:36,320 --> 02:05:40,280
Speaker 1: He's frustrated with actual being with the number twos because

2593
02:05:40,320 --> 02:05:43,040
Speaker 1: he thinks he should be with the number ones. And secondly,

2594
02:05:44,160 --> 02:05:47,200
Speaker 1: he's frustrated with how he's being treated and how something's

2595
02:05:47,200 --> 02:05:48,920
Speaker 1: going on there. This is not his career and the

2596
02:05:48,960 --> 02:05:50,560
Speaker 1: way he's being used, the way he's been talked to,

2597
02:05:50,680 --> 02:05:54,720
Speaker 1: the way he's being treated. He's frustrated on a couple

2598
02:05:54,760 --> 02:05:57,160
Speaker 1: of levels. And he say listen, just trade me. If

2599
02:05:57,160 --> 02:05:58,880
Speaker 1: you're not gonna do the you know, if you're not

2600
02:05:58,920 --> 02:06:00,400
Speaker 1: going to treat me the way I need to be treated,

2601
02:06:00,480 --> 02:06:01,960
Speaker 1: or if you're not, if you don't want me to play,

2602
02:06:02,240 --> 02:06:05,760
Speaker 1: you can get rid of me. That, to me is

2603
02:06:05,800 --> 02:06:07,960
Speaker 1: a level of frustration that you don't see very often

2604
02:06:08,040 --> 02:06:10,600
Speaker 1: from NFL players that to go into a head coach

2605
02:06:10,680 --> 02:06:13,280
Speaker 1: and openly say, you know, if you don't want to

2606
02:06:13,280 --> 02:06:15,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play, just trade me. Yeah that's but they

2607
02:06:15,200 --> 02:06:17,720
Speaker 1: did trade it. Yeah, that's that says a lot about

2608
02:06:17,880 --> 02:06:20,840
Speaker 1: his mindset about how he was doing in Cleveland. I

2609
02:06:20,880 --> 02:06:22,960
Speaker 1: don't know if it's gonna work out for Corey Coleman here.

2610
02:06:23,040 --> 02:06:26,160
Speaker 1: I will say that when they made the trade eight

2611
02:06:26,280 --> 02:06:28,720
Speaker 1: nine days ago, I was more excited than I have

2612
02:06:28,880 --> 02:06:32,600
Speaker 1: been since then about the prospect of him joining his team. Look,

2613
02:06:33,520 --> 02:06:35,680
Speaker 1: he's got ground to make up, you know, Chris Brown

2614
02:06:35,720 --> 02:06:37,160
Speaker 1: talking about it with us the other day. He's got

2615
02:06:37,200 --> 02:06:38,760
Speaker 1: a lot of ground to make up. But this is

2616
02:06:38,800 --> 02:06:40,840
Speaker 1: the week, I guess, that's my point. And this is

2617
02:06:40,920 --> 02:06:43,520
Speaker 1: the game Friday night, going against his former team that

2618
02:06:43,600 --> 02:06:46,960
Speaker 1: just traded him, former first round draft pick fifteenth overall.

2619
02:06:47,320 --> 02:06:50,200
Speaker 1: This is the time, right now, today, tomorrow and of

2620
02:06:50,240 --> 02:06:52,480
Speaker 1: course Friday in the game when if Corey Coleman's going

2621
02:06:52,520 --> 02:06:54,360
Speaker 1: to make his mark on the Bills and in the NFL,

2622
02:06:54,880 --> 02:06:57,560
Speaker 1: the time is now to start. He's got to like that. Man. Well,

2623
02:06:57,600 --> 02:06:59,760
Speaker 1: here's the thing now, and it's interesting to me to

2624
02:06:59,800 --> 02:07:01,480
Speaker 1: think about how the coaches are going to handle that.

2625
02:07:01,600 --> 02:07:03,880
Speaker 1: Certainly he doesn't have the whole offense, his mind around

2626
02:07:03,880 --> 02:07:05,520
Speaker 1: the whole offense. I mean, he's been here what four

2627
02:07:05,600 --> 02:07:10,000
Speaker 1: or five days and four or five practices, maybe more

2628
02:07:10,040 --> 02:07:12,160
Speaker 1: than that, but you know he's a week, right, and

2629
02:07:12,240 --> 02:07:17,680
Speaker 1: I mean he's just so he lands in here. Are

2630
02:07:17,760 --> 02:07:22,320
Speaker 1: the coaches gonna give him a shortlist of plays to

2631
02:07:22,480 --> 02:07:25,320
Speaker 1: let him compete and play hard and not have to

2632
02:07:25,400 --> 02:07:28,040
Speaker 1: think about too much and see what his physical physical

2633
02:07:28,080 --> 02:07:30,800
Speaker 1: ability gives them and to see if he's actually gonna

2634
02:07:30,840 --> 02:07:33,600
Speaker 1: have that to make this team or are they gonna say, Okay,

2635
02:07:33,680 --> 02:07:35,240
Speaker 1: here's the offense. You're in with the number one, and

2636
02:07:35,280 --> 02:07:37,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to run everything, know everything, and you

2637
02:07:37,240 --> 02:07:39,480
Speaker 1: better not make any mental mistakes or you're gonna be

2638
02:07:39,560 --> 02:07:42,920
Speaker 1: in trouble and see what happens. Um It'll be interesting

2639
02:07:42,960 --> 02:07:45,360
Speaker 1: to see how how what they expect him to know

2640
02:07:45,560 --> 02:07:47,920
Speaker 1: and do and read in those defenses in this offense

2641
02:07:48,000 --> 02:07:50,800
Speaker 1: because you we've heard it all through training camp, Murphy,

2642
02:07:50,800 --> 02:07:52,360
Speaker 1: you know as well as I do. This offense is

2643
02:07:52,440 --> 02:07:56,600
Speaker 1: not They're not playing Paddycake out there. It's tough, it's complex,

2644
02:07:56,960 --> 02:07:59,879
Speaker 1: and it's versatile, multiple You've got a lot of verbiage

2645
02:08:00,120 --> 02:08:01,760
Speaker 1: and you got to know all that if you're a player,

2646
02:08:02,240 --> 02:08:03,880
Speaker 1: and it'll be interesting to see how they what they

2647
02:08:03,960 --> 02:08:06,320
Speaker 1: give him to do in this game. That very question

2648
02:08:06,440 --> 02:08:08,720
Speaker 1: came up today with coach McDermot. Our man Chris Brown

2649
02:08:08,760 --> 02:08:12,360
Speaker 1: asked it. Chris's question, coach with respect to Coleman, has

2650
02:08:12,400 --> 02:08:14,280
Speaker 1: he been there long enough where it's just the idea

2651
02:08:14,360 --> 02:08:16,200
Speaker 1: of let's put him and see what he can handle,

2652
02:08:16,600 --> 02:08:18,640
Speaker 1: or a smaller diet and menu for him going into

2653
02:08:18,680 --> 02:08:21,440
Speaker 1: this game knowing he still knew and mcdermot's response a

2654
02:08:21,520 --> 02:08:23,040
Speaker 1: little bit of that. We're getting to the point now

2655
02:08:23,080 --> 02:08:25,480
Speaker 1: where it needs to be the former in terms of

2656
02:08:25,640 --> 02:08:27,800
Speaker 1: here's the playbook, you've got to know it. There will

2657
02:08:27,840 --> 02:08:30,440
Speaker 1: be some clarity around what his role is Friday night.

2658
02:08:30,480 --> 02:08:32,080
Speaker 1: So the biggest thing is we wanted to come out

2659
02:08:32,120 --> 02:08:34,760
Speaker 1: and play fast and play physical. He can help himself

2660
02:08:34,760 --> 02:08:37,200
Speaker 1: a lot with the big game on Friday, Corey Coleman

2661
02:08:37,240 --> 02:08:39,920
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. And if he doesn't, he might not

2662
02:08:40,000 --> 02:08:42,120
Speaker 1: get too many more chances to do that, because you know,

2663
02:08:42,200 --> 02:08:44,640
Speaker 1: the train is leaving the station as they say, see, well, yeah,

2664
02:08:44,680 --> 02:08:47,960
Speaker 1: the league doesn't stop for anybody. You're you're expected to

2665
02:08:48,040 --> 02:08:50,600
Speaker 1: catch up. And that's why I tend to think they're

2666
02:08:50,640 --> 02:08:52,240
Speaker 1: gonna put some things on his plate and he better

2667
02:08:52,280 --> 02:08:55,800
Speaker 1: be ready for him. That's not to say that if

2668
02:08:55,840 --> 02:08:58,320
Speaker 1: he makes a mental mistake here or there, that they

2669
02:08:58,360 --> 02:09:00,560
Speaker 1: won't say, oh, I get that. But if he goes

2670
02:09:00,600 --> 02:09:03,000
Speaker 1: out there, competes and wins some battle, if he blazes

2671
02:09:03,040 --> 02:09:06,760
Speaker 1: downfield and gets open, not even catch up, maybe they

2672
02:09:06,760 --> 02:09:08,920
Speaker 1: don't even throw up to him, but shows blazing speech,

2673
02:09:09,000 --> 02:09:11,960
Speaker 1: which he has, and and the coaching, the coaches will

2674
02:09:11,960 --> 02:09:14,720
Speaker 1: look at the video and say, we don't have that

2675
02:09:14,760 --> 02:09:16,760
Speaker 1: from anybody else. We kind of need that right that,

2676
02:09:16,920 --> 02:09:19,080
Speaker 1: that's exactly right now. There's he's got to impress in

2677
02:09:19,160 --> 02:09:21,480
Speaker 1: some way, shape or form. And I think but I

2678
02:09:21,520 --> 02:09:23,120
Speaker 1: think the most difficult thing for him it's going to

2679
02:09:23,160 --> 02:09:25,080
Speaker 1: be is to grasp the offense. I think the physical

2680
02:09:25,160 --> 02:09:26,520
Speaker 1: part of it's what he was born to do. I

2681
02:09:26,560 --> 02:09:28,800
Speaker 1: mean this, these guys are trained for it. They look

2682
02:09:28,880 --> 02:09:31,080
Speaker 1: forward to it, They work in the offseason to get

2683
02:09:31,120 --> 02:09:33,560
Speaker 1: there for it. UH to do this kind of stuff.

2684
02:09:33,600 --> 02:09:35,920
Speaker 1: And so that's what he's got he's got to depend on.

2685
02:09:36,000 --> 02:09:37,840
Speaker 1: If he can't do that, the physical part of it,

2686
02:09:38,800 --> 02:09:41,440
Speaker 1: you know, what's he doing? Yeah, I mean it'll he

2687
02:09:41,560 --> 02:09:44,880
Speaker 1: might be gone by Monday, all right, NFL True and false.

2688
02:09:44,960 --> 02:09:47,240
Speaker 1: Now it has brought to you by Yancey's, Fancy New

2689
02:09:47,320 --> 02:09:51,000
Speaker 1: York's artists and cheese. You know, I've banded this around

2690
02:09:51,120 --> 02:09:55,920
Speaker 1: since the weekends. Last weekend's games were completed UM NFL

2691
02:09:56,240 --> 02:10:00,560
Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown's NFL. The Browns website contin and said Baker

2692
02:10:00,640 --> 02:10:03,560
Speaker 1: Mayfield had the best rookie performance of the preseason in

2693
02:10:03,640 --> 02:10:05,960
Speaker 1: Week one. I don't know if that's the case. I

2694
02:10:06,040 --> 02:10:09,520
Speaker 1: think Sam Darnald had a good preseason performance. Josh Rosen

2695
02:10:09,640 --> 02:10:12,000
Speaker 1: did some good things. I don't know, what do you think?

2696
02:10:12,200 --> 02:10:14,040
Speaker 1: Did he have the best? True? False? I'm gonna say

2697
02:10:14,120 --> 02:10:18,200
Speaker 1: fall I no. I mean, I think um Darnald had

2698
02:10:18,240 --> 02:10:21,080
Speaker 1: a more extended you know time in the in the

2699
02:10:21,200 --> 02:10:24,800
Speaker 1: game with the Jets and played pretty well. Um so yeah,

2700
02:10:24,800 --> 02:10:27,120
Speaker 1: I mean you're you're splitting hairs here, man. I don't.

2701
02:10:27,120 --> 02:10:28,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, right, And you can make the argument

2702
02:10:28,880 --> 02:10:32,560
Speaker 1: for all these guys, Um, certainly, I don't think Josh

2703
02:10:32,640 --> 02:10:37,400
Speaker 1: Allen statistically uh played as well as those guys. But

2704
02:10:37,480 --> 02:10:39,720
Speaker 1: he threw a touchdown pass, made some plays that those

2705
02:10:39,760 --> 02:10:42,920
Speaker 1: other guys wouldn't have made. UM. So yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: what are you looking for? You know? But I think

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Speaker 1: I don't think you can make that statement that you

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Speaker 1: Certainly you can have the debate, but who's gonna be right?

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Speaker 1: I don't think he can make that NFL true or

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Speaker 1: false Part two. Josh Gordon not playing this week, not

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Speaker 1: yet back with the Cleveland Browns. He is on there

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Speaker 1: is with the Browns, He's not on the active roster.

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Speaker 1: J Gordon is the most feared receiver going into this year.

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Speaker 1: A Baja Biamilla says, when he gets on the field,

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Speaker 1: Josh Gordon terrorizes defenses. Look, I know he's good, but

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Speaker 1: the most feared receiver in the league, Josh Gordon. Some

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Speaker 1: people contend that what about Antonio Brown? Yeah? What about uh,

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Speaker 1: you know AJ Green? Yeah, Julio Childs, No, this Odell

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Speaker 1: Beckham Junior. Did we do this once before on trur false?

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Speaker 1: Because that is so false. I remember we read it

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Speaker 1: once before and I said, that's ridiculous, and we've teed

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Speaker 1: it up. We have it on the show. That is

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Speaker 1: as false as anything we've done in true false. You've

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Speaker 1: got the most feared receiver, say it is preaching. True

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Speaker 1: false is false false, of course it is. NFL True

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Speaker 1: and False brought to you by Yancy's. Thanks for backing

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Speaker 1: Yancey's Fancy New York's artist in chief Steve and I

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Speaker 1: backed with Moore. One Bills I presented by Kalada Hell

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Speaker 1: from Bill's training camp on Buffalo Bill's Radio. What do

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. We had Brian Balding around the show.

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Speaker 1: Former dozen years in the NFL, is an offensive lineman

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Speaker 1: that with the NFL network. Brian Balding, you're talking about

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Speaker 1: his breakdown of Josh Allen and his performance in preseason

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Speaker 1: Game number one. I thought Josh played really well. I

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Speaker 1: don't care about a status you know, you see the

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Speaker 1: big arm, you see you know the sixty and sixty

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Speaker 1: five yards bombs that he attempted. How effortless that is.

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Speaker 1: You see some throws, the touchdown throw at the end

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Speaker 1: with a minute fifteen seconds ago was start. You see

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Speaker 1: the athletic ability to get in out of the pocket,

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Speaker 1: extend place, run from from a sound. You see the

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Speaker 1: strength that he had. I'm not just say people, if

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Speaker 1: they'll just be patient with this guy. I think there's

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Speaker 1: so much upside and so many tools that he has

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Speaker 1: that he's got. I think he has a real cuculi.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't too big for him. Bryan Baldinger from the

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Speaker 1: NFL Network. Dean Dawkins joined us today the bill starting

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Speaker 1: left decle You talk about his mindset playing on the

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Speaker 1: offensive line, as the football fans and know it's it's

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Speaker 1: the trenches. But uh like, I just live and with

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Speaker 1: that mindset, kill or be killed. As soon as you

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Speaker 1: um let up, then you will and get got. So

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Speaker 1: you have to always be on on your top game

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Speaker 1: and just be ready to dominate everybody. Being on the

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Speaker 1: latest guest, we had we had a good run here

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Speaker 1: for three weeks. Steve. I'm looking forward to doing the

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Speaker 1: show in Archerd Park, but I can't wait too. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I really like being down here. You don't want to

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Speaker 1: want camped in. It's a plethora of stuff, guys to

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Speaker 1: Tom's walking around, Tonny, guys just showing up and you

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Speaker 1: know they're right there. Plus we watched practice ton It's

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Speaker 1: it's been fun. I will admit it's been my most

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Speaker 1: fun training camp in the last two decades. All Right, hey,

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Speaker 1: thanks everybody for tuning in. We're back in Archid Park tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you then at twelve noon One Bill's Live

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Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive tomorrow on Buffalo Bill's Radio