1 00:00:30,279 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: Pats from the Past Tune in is Matt Smith and 2 00:00:32,559 --> 00:00:35,119 Speaker 1: Paul Perillo offer in depth interviews with some of the 3 00:00:35,119 --> 00:00:37,719 Speaker 1: greatest players and coaches in New England Patriots history. 4 00:00:37,799 --> 00:00:39,639 Speaker 2: Joined by the newest member of the Patriots Hall Fame, 5 00:00:39,679 --> 00:00:40,319 Speaker 2: Mike Raybow. 6 00:00:40,399 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: Find out what led to some of the greatest moments 7 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: in franchise history and unique behind the scenes insight. 8 00:00:45,239 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 3: And please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian 9 00:00:47,918 --> 00:00:50,439 Speaker 3: hoy Or. Joined by number thirty seven on your scorecard, 10 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,119 Speaker 3: but number one in our hearts at least Rodney Harrison. 11 00:00:53,399 --> 00:00:56,039 Speaker 1: Good to be home, Good to see you guys, search 12 00:00:56,079 --> 00:00:58,479 Speaker 1: for Pats from the Past anywhere you get your podcast. 13 00:01:01,439 --> 00:01:01,639 Speaker 2: Great. 14 00:01:02,039 --> 00:01:04,439 Speaker 3: Just from your perspective, it seems, especially for the first 15 00:01:04,479 --> 00:01:07,839 Speaker 3: three quarters, this might have been its frustrating a game 16 00:01:07,878 --> 00:01:08,158 Speaker 3: for you. 17 00:01:08,158 --> 00:01:09,519 Speaker 2: You seem like you were kind. 18 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,719 Speaker 3: Of coming back, walking over a little bit, kind of 19 00:01:11,759 --> 00:01:13,159 Speaker 3: collecting your thoughts walking back. 20 00:01:13,199 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: What's going through your mind in this one as far 21 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 1: as trying to get the offense going and then eventually getting. 22 00:01:18,799 --> 00:01:20,999 Speaker 3: Yeah, frustrating. I think kind of the same things showing up. 23 00:01:20,999 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 3: That's part of the most frustrating park part. I think 24 00:01:24,679 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 3: hurting ourselves getting long distances and first second down and 25 00:01:28,479 --> 00:01:30,999 Speaker 3: then not capital when we get down in the red 26 00:01:31,079 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 3: zone and the goal line and kind of make it 27 00:01:32,759 --> 00:01:33,599 Speaker 3: a one score game. 28 00:01:33,679 --> 00:01:35,318 Speaker 2: So those things just keep. 29 00:01:35,159 --> 00:01:37,798 Speaker 3: Showing up over and over and were addressing them and 30 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:39,519 Speaker 3: the guys, I feel like we're focusing in during the 31 00:01:39,519 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 3: week and practice and you know, we're practicing well, I 32 00:01:41,479 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 3: feel like, and it's just not translating into the game. 33 00:01:43,919 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 2: So you do something extra or do something different. 34 00:01:46,119 --> 00:01:50,039 Speaker 3: And I think it's just question because frustrating because we're 35 00:01:50,039 --> 00:01:51,919 Speaker 3: in these games and I think, you know, we can 36 00:01:51,919 --> 00:01:52,959 Speaker 3: win these games. 37 00:01:52,679 --> 00:01:55,039 Speaker 2: But uh, just kind of the balls and are rolling 38 00:01:55,039 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 2: our way. 39 00:01:56,159 --> 00:01:58,599 Speaker 1: In the first half ten out of ten, I think 40 00:01:58,639 --> 00:02:01,359 Speaker 1: it was like a lot of shorter passes. How much 41 00:02:01,439 --> 00:02:02,679 Speaker 1: was that part of the game winning. 42 00:02:02,559 --> 00:02:03,239 Speaker 2: Toil you kick the ball? 43 00:02:03,679 --> 00:02:05,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, we wanted to get the ball out, get the 44 00:02:05,239 --> 00:02:07,879 Speaker 3: guys in our hands and make them tackle us. I 45 00:02:07,919 --> 00:02:09,999 Speaker 3: think that was it was our big game plan. And 46 00:02:10,439 --> 00:02:12,038 Speaker 3: he was also tough for av because we really didn't 47 00:02:12,038 --> 00:02:12,719 Speaker 3: really get in a rhythm. 48 00:02:12,839 --> 00:02:12,999 Speaker 2: You know. 49 00:02:13,079 --> 00:02:14,319 Speaker 3: I think it's it's easy when you get in a 50 00:02:14,358 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 3: rythm to call some deeper stuff and and kind of 51 00:02:16,358 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 3: get that going. But we're never even kind of a 52 00:02:17,879 --> 00:02:20,319 Speaker 3: rhythm and come out of them. In the second half, 53 00:02:20,319 --> 00:02:23,039 Speaker 3: we got down to the goal line and couldn't punch 54 00:02:23,079 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 3: it in and then facing that we're kind of comeback 55 00:02:24,999 --> 00:02:26,559 Speaker 3: mode and that's when we could open it up. And 56 00:02:26,759 --> 00:02:29,839 Speaker 3: they're playing simple coverages and just kind of playing keep 57 00:02:29,839 --> 00:02:31,758 Speaker 3: it in run, so it's a little easier to pick 58 00:02:31,839 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 3: them apart. But really in the beginning of the game, 59 00:02:34,279 --> 00:02:36,119 Speaker 3: I think just got to get getting the flow and 60 00:02:36,719 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 3: you know, find ways to move the ball and get points. 61 00:02:38,839 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 3: That first drive of I feel like it's you know, 62 00:02:40,679 --> 00:02:42,478 Speaker 3: two or three games where we get down there and 63 00:02:42,719 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 3: we don't get points. 64 00:02:43,439 --> 00:02:44,918 Speaker 2: In the first drive, you know, we're moving the ball, 65 00:02:44,999 --> 00:02:45,559 Speaker 2: so it's tough. 66 00:02:46,199 --> 00:02:47,839 Speaker 3: You're two big ones that Yeah, that won the kV 67 00:02:48,079 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 3: downsideline you had hooper up to scene portan is that 68 00:02:50,839 --> 00:02:52,999 Speaker 3: moving forward next three weeks, got some good teams coming 69 00:02:53,079 --> 00:02:55,119 Speaker 3: up there, so they don't just swallow it. 70 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 2: But yeah, eight guys in the box early exactly. 71 00:02:58,599 --> 00:03:00,119 Speaker 3: I think that's one of the best things I do 72 00:03:00,199 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 3: is you know, see the ball, see you downfield and 73 00:03:03,079 --> 00:03:04,958 Speaker 3: throwing it kind intermediate and I think, you know, we're 74 00:03:04,959 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 3: doing that more and more. But like so we're getting 75 00:03:06,799 --> 00:03:08,159 Speaker 3: flow in the game and kind of let those things 76 00:03:08,199 --> 00:03:10,439 Speaker 3: open up. But got good players are making plays and 77 00:03:11,119 --> 00:03:13,999 Speaker 3: another even intermediate pass the booty is unfortunate. I try 78 00:03:13,999 --> 00:03:15,439 Speaker 3: to kind of lean them away from the safety and 79 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,439 Speaker 3: just uh, you know, stuff like that happens. So, like 80 00:03:18,439 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 3: I said, I really didn't go away, but I think, 81 00:03:19,839 --> 00:03:22,159 Speaker 3: you know, get some promising stuff to build on. I 82 00:03:22,159 --> 00:03:24,038 Speaker 3: think we were fishing the passing game has some big 83 00:03:24,079 --> 00:03:26,358 Speaker 3: time runs and I think you know, people can see 84 00:03:26,399 --> 00:03:27,879 Speaker 3: it just kind of you know, stop having the same 85 00:03:27,879 --> 00:03:28,559 Speaker 3: repeat errors. 86 00:03:28,599 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 2: What do you think did change for you guys? 87 00:03:30,599 --> 00:03:33,599 Speaker 3: The top two scorings just going tempo, and I think 88 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,239 Speaker 3: they can't get their stuff and they're playing simple stuff 89 00:03:36,239 --> 00:03:37,079 Speaker 3: because they have to, because. 90 00:03:36,879 --> 00:03:37,919 Speaker 2: They have to get the call in fast. 91 00:03:37,959 --> 00:03:40,279 Speaker 3: And I think we practiced that all the time in practice. 92 00:03:40,279 --> 00:03:42,679 Speaker 3: I think that's you know, pretty sure habit of going 93 00:03:42,759 --> 00:03:44,719 Speaker 3: and you know, moving the ball, whether it's too many 94 00:03:44,919 --> 00:03:47,559 Speaker 3: in a practice or even just uh on the ball period, 95 00:03:47,559 --> 00:03:49,999 Speaker 3: we call it. So I think it's easy for me 96 00:03:50,039 --> 00:03:51,679 Speaker 3: because you know the players we're gonna run. I know 97 00:03:51,759 --> 00:03:53,999 Speaker 3: him throughout the week, and you know, I feel good. 98 00:03:54,199 --> 00:03:55,759 Speaker 3: I feel good about our guys and where they're gonna 99 00:03:55,759 --> 00:03:57,159 Speaker 3: be at Would you like to see more of that 100 00:03:57,239 --> 00:03:59,359 Speaker 3: because it seems like you guys come out run the 101 00:03:59,359 --> 00:04:02,599 Speaker 3: football holding call for a series, second series, Sack. I mean, 102 00:04:02,599 --> 00:04:04,559 Speaker 3: it seems like you're just kind of been making the 103 00:04:04,559 --> 00:04:05,639 Speaker 3: same mistakes over and over. 104 00:04:05,639 --> 00:04:07,479 Speaker 1: Would you like to maybe switch it up, get some teps, 105 00:04:07,479 --> 00:04:08,919 Speaker 1: open the input of balans. 106 00:04:08,639 --> 00:04:10,238 Speaker 2: And things like that. Yeah, definitely, thing it's a place 107 00:04:10,279 --> 00:04:10,519 Speaker 2: for it. 108 00:04:10,559 --> 00:04:12,239 Speaker 3: I think, you know, he talks about you know, getting 109 00:04:12,279 --> 00:04:14,719 Speaker 3: in the temple drive you know, every game, and I 110 00:04:14,759 --> 00:04:16,238 Speaker 3: think there's a time and place for it, and he 111 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,318 Speaker 3: knows that and he you know, he likes us in tempo. 112 00:04:18,519 --> 00:04:20,999 Speaker 3: So I think it's just, you know, find the right 113 00:04:21,039 --> 00:04:22,638 Speaker 3: time for it. But I think our guys do a 114 00:04:22,678 --> 00:04:24,878 Speaker 3: nice job and it's a testament to them for what 115 00:04:24,919 --> 00:04:25,639 Speaker 3: we do in practice. 116 00:04:25,678 --> 00:04:28,519 Speaker 2: And you know how well we are when we move 117 00:04:28,558 --> 00:04:29,199 Speaker 2: the ball in tempo. 118 00:04:30,159 --> 00:04:32,878 Speaker 3: When they opened any drivers of third down through screen 119 00:04:32,959 --> 00:04:34,718 Speaker 3: to Pop, it wasn't jerky. 120 00:04:35,079 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 2: That was to play call. 121 00:04:35,879 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 3: And I don't know if there's a check or what 122 00:04:37,519 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 3: did you see on that play? Yeah, just trying to 123 00:04:39,359 --> 00:04:41,878 Speaker 3: get out to Pop and have them make a play. 124 00:04:42,079 --> 00:04:42,239 Speaker 2: You know. 125 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,079 Speaker 3: I think we maybe probably maybe would have liked to 126 00:04:44,119 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 3: have that one back, but when field range once stay 127 00:04:46,039 --> 00:04:46,639 Speaker 3: in field, go arrange. 128 00:04:46,678 --> 00:04:48,959 Speaker 2: That's the big thing of kind of learning experiences of 129 00:04:49,558 --> 00:04:50,199 Speaker 2: the Titans the game. 130 00:04:50,239 --> 00:04:51,799 Speaker 3: I took a sack gass out of field, go range 131 00:04:51,799 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 3: and just trying to pick up some yards and kind 132 00:04:53,719 --> 00:04:57,639 Speaker 3: of give Joey's try to make the kick, but you 133 00:04:57,759 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 3: have someone look back and field and see what see 134 00:04:59,359 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 3: what I think, Drake? 135 00:05:00,438 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 2: But do you guys wanted to coin toss? 136 00:05:01,879 --> 00:05:04,238 Speaker 3: You liked to receive if you were going in that 137 00:05:04,239 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 3: that was going to be the approach if you want 138 00:05:05,958 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 3: to toss and have a drive the search of promises 139 00:05:08,479 --> 00:05:11,079 Speaker 3: to install out the way. How deflating is there? Yeah, 140 00:05:11,198 --> 00:05:14,638 Speaker 3: that's what I was talking to Kobe about. Yes, you're 141 00:05:14,639 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 3: definitely deflating. You want to get down there and you'll 142 00:05:16,919 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 3: put defense in a good spot, get some points on 143 00:05:18,479 --> 00:05:21,878 Speaker 3: the board, and you'll get down there and install out 144 00:05:21,879 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 3: and getting a holding call which you have to look 145 00:05:25,198 --> 00:05:26,759 Speaker 3: back and see. I think it was a holding. I'm 146 00:05:26,759 --> 00:05:29,439 Speaker 3: not sure what penalty it was. But some unfortunate things 147 00:05:29,438 --> 00:05:31,399 Speaker 3: have more unfortunate things happened the whole game. 148 00:05:31,438 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 2: Really, they had a. 149 00:05:33,078 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 3: Basically a video game Madden like touchdown the corner of 150 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,999 Speaker 3: the end zone, the lineman falling on it. They had 151 00:05:39,479 --> 00:05:44,799 Speaker 3: the interception with the questionable call, but yeah, with the 152 00:05:44,799 --> 00:05:46,398 Speaker 3: rest called it. So we got to live with it 153 00:05:46,639 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 3: on the interception that we had. But I don't think 154 00:05:49,759 --> 00:05:51,439 Speaker 3: we really any of that matters. I think we just 155 00:05:51,479 --> 00:05:56,079 Speaker 3: got to execute on ourselves, execute better and looking into 156 00:05:56,078 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 3: that and not let those things kind of just decide again. 157 00:06:05,399 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: On the third one, the fourth one, do you guys 158 00:06:07,719 --> 00:06:09,959 Speaker 1: have gotten stopped there a couple of times this season? 159 00:06:10,239 --> 00:06:12,718 Speaker 1: Would you feel comfortable sneaking it? And is that something 160 00:06:12,759 --> 00:06:13,999 Speaker 1: that you might have voice to Ax? 161 00:06:14,399 --> 00:06:17,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point. You know, it was you know, 162 00:06:17,719 --> 00:06:20,478 Speaker 3: a good quarterback sneaker in college, you know, a big dude. 163 00:06:21,519 --> 00:06:23,878 Speaker 3: You know, I'm heavier than people think. So I think 164 00:06:24,078 --> 00:06:26,518 Speaker 3: I think it's bessly maybe a conversation for that, and 165 00:06:26,599 --> 00:06:28,439 Speaker 3: I think it's tough, you know, to stop you know, 166 00:06:28,479 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 3: six or five dude, you know, for one yard. So 167 00:06:32,239 --> 00:06:33,799 Speaker 3: also at the same time, Andre is you know pretty 168 00:06:33,999 --> 00:06:35,079 Speaker 3: good to getting one yard as well. 169 00:06:35,318 --> 00:06:37,999 Speaker 2: So it just unfortunate that it happened. But definitely the 170 00:06:37,999 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 2: time plays for it. You're I'll be optimistic guy, and 171 00:06:41,558 --> 00:06:43,199 Speaker 2: you know ch every week, But how much has the 172 00:06:43,359 --> 00:06:46,518 Speaker 2: losing you know where on you Yeah, where's are you? 173 00:06:46,558 --> 00:06:49,959 Speaker 2: For sure? I think it's uh, it's just frustrating. 174 00:06:51,078 --> 00:06:53,959 Speaker 3: You a long, long flight back and we can't do 175 00:06:53,999 --> 00:06:55,238 Speaker 3: nothing else but just thinking about the game. 176 00:06:55,318 --> 00:06:57,518 Speaker 2: You'll watch the game on your iPad, and I'm. 177 00:06:57,399 --> 00:07:01,319 Speaker 3: Thinking about ways the ways I could maybe throughout the 178 00:07:01,359 --> 00:07:02,879 Speaker 3: week that could talk to a guy that can make 179 00:07:02,879 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 3: a difference in the game. Maybe you know, hit the 180 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,519 Speaker 3: linean here on one thing, or maybe the receivers here, 181 00:07:07,599 --> 00:07:10,599 Speaker 3: or the running back Madre or these guys may tell 182 00:07:10,639 --> 00:07:12,759 Speaker 3: them something extra throughout the week that maybe help, you know, 183 00:07:12,799 --> 00:07:15,199 Speaker 3: shift things or make that play different. But I really 184 00:07:15,199 --> 00:07:18,199 Speaker 3: just think it's a collective it's collective effort, and those 185 00:07:18,199 --> 00:07:21,639 Speaker 3: guys are keeping a good attitude. Really just harder myself 186 00:07:21,679 --> 00:07:24,199 Speaker 3: on things, and that's you know, really probably the attitude. 187 00:07:25,078 --> 00:07:28,479 Speaker 1: Thanks to US Patriots playbook joint John brook As, he 188 00:07:28,559 --> 00:07:31,519 Speaker 1: brings you all the latest Patriots an expert commentary direct 189 00:07:31,559 --> 00:07:34,799 Speaker 1: from Patriots HQ. The show features interviews with New England 190 00:07:34,839 --> 00:07:37,159 Speaker 1: and Opponent beat writers that bring you a unique media 191 00:07:37,239 --> 00:07:38,679 Speaker 1: view of the state of the team. But where the 192 00:07:38,719 --> 00:07:41,759 Speaker 1: Patriots are concerned, Let's just get one thing done and 193 00:07:41,839 --> 00:07:44,239 Speaker 1: let's get it done right, and then we can. 194 00:07:44,119 --> 00:07:47,119 Speaker 2: Worry about versatility. Am I lying to anybody here. Let's 195 00:07:47,159 --> 00:07:49,839 Speaker 2: just get one thing done. Let's get one thing done right, 196 00:07:50,239 --> 00:07:52,559 Speaker 2: and then we can move along. That's kind of my 197 00:07:52,639 --> 00:07:53,199 Speaker 2: biggest thing. 198 00:07:53,239 --> 00:07:55,919 Speaker 1: Search Patriots Playbook anywhere you get your podcasts