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Speaker 2: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntire. What is up,

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Speaker 2: straight fam, It's me Jason McIntire, Straight Fire for Friday.

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Speaker 2: March first. Uh, you know, March is my favorite month

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Speaker 2: of the year in non World Cup years, and this

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Speaker 2: is a non World Cup year. I love March madness.

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Speaker 2: You guys know I gamble in college basketball. But you

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Speaker 2: know we're not gonna talk college obs obviously right now,

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Speaker 2: decent slate of games this weekend. Next weekend is the

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Speaker 2: final weekend of the regular season, then comes conference championship weekend,

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Speaker 2: then comes opening weekend of the tournament. So if you

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Speaker 2: missed this week's college basketball guesst Thomas Casalle, go back

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Speaker 2: and listen. It's it's good stuff. We'll have one. I

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Speaker 2: just was on a text chain randomly with a former

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Speaker 2: North Carolina player who was drafted in the first round.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to give his name, and he's up

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Speaker 2: for coming on the pod to talk gambling March madness.

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Speaker 2: As so it happened. I don't want to give away

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Speaker 2: too much anyways. Anyways, all right, let's get to what

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Speaker 2: I think is the biggest story now. I am gonna

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Speaker 2: touch on the jet scandal. I kind of held off

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Speaker 2: here for a minute just because, like, I'm over the

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Speaker 2: Jets right now. I'm just so disgusted with the franchise.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about him. But we'll get

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Speaker 2: to him in a minute. I need to start with

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Speaker 2: a story. Rob G's very hot on this Dame Lillard

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Speaker 2: for reasons that almost seem unknown, although I have a theory.

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Speaker 2: I always have a theory. He has popped off in

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Speaker 2: an article about how lonely he is in Milwaukee and

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Speaker 2: he's bored. Obviously he's going through a a I don't

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Speaker 2: know if it's acrimonious, but a divorce. It sounds like it's.

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Speaker 2: It didn't just happen, although he announced it right after

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Speaker 2: the trade to Milwaukee. Apparently they've been living separately for

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Speaker 2: like ten months, so this isn't like a new thing.

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Speaker 2: But I guess, you know, his kids are back in Portland,

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Speaker 2: he's in Milwaukee or on the road, and it's it's

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Speaker 2: kind of boring. Now. Now, now, remember what was Dame's

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Speaker 2: first destination that he wanted to go to South Beach.

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Speaker 2: Interesting that Dame, when he was saying South Beach was

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Speaker 2: pretty clearly single. Right the marriage had deteriorated and he

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Speaker 2: was up for South Beach. Okay, and he lands up

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Speaker 2: in Milwaukee. I'm not saying Milwaukee doesn't have a fine,

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Speaker 2: fine group of attractive women, friendly and would make a

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Speaker 2: great friend slash partner slash whatever, a friend with benefits,

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Speaker 2: but it's pretty clear from this article Damian Lillard is

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Speaker 2: not really happy. No, it's not just off off the court.

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Speaker 2: On the court, he admits like, hey, things aren't going

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Speaker 2: great with Jannis. I think he characterizes it a work

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Speaker 2: when I heard this, I was like, Okay, a, why

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Speaker 2: is Dame doing this now? Like why would you give

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Speaker 2: this interview now and say all this stuff? And here's

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Speaker 2: my working theory. Rob. A lot of the issues with

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Speaker 2: the Bucks after they fired their coach when they were

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Speaker 2: in second in the East have been with Doc Rivers lightly.

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Speaker 2: You know, the guy who's like one in four yet

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Speaker 2: he coaches the All Star Game. And after they come

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Speaker 2: out of the All Star break and they're doing all right,

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Speaker 2: they're doing fine, but they're not like the old Bucks,

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Speaker 2: and they're sputtering, and I wonder, I just wonder if

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Speaker 2: Dame said, you know what, let me be a team player. Here.

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Speaker 2: Let me just go and sit on a grenade. Start

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Speaker 2: a little brush fire over here, a little misdirection, take

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Speaker 2: the media's attention away from the Bucks, who are nowhere

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Speaker 2: near close to the number one in the in the East.

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Speaker 2: They're actually third. And let me if I just start

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Speaker 2: this brushfire a little jazz hands over here. Hey, everybody, look,

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Speaker 2: I'm not thrilled with how things are going and blah

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Speaker 2: blah blah. Maybe it can give Doc the airspace he

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Speaker 2: needs without the media grilling him and the team every

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Speaker 2: night to fix things here over the next week. Oh,

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Speaker 2: Dame is unhappy, Dame Day might leave blah blah. I

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Speaker 2: just wonder, Rob, if this is Dame being a team

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Speaker 2: player and saying, let me take some of the pressure

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Speaker 2: off Doc, because there is pressure. You fire your coach

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Speaker 2: and you're second in the East. I think it's a

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Speaker 2: you know, pretty smart move by Dame if he's that

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Speaker 2: put this out there as like a hey, hey, Jimmy Butler,

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Speaker 2: come get me dog, you know, one of those deals,

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Speaker 2: or or maybe Lebron boy. The timing couldn't be better

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Speaker 2: for Dame Lillard, Right, all we hear this week is

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Speaker 2: Trey Young and the Lakers Trey Young And oh, well,

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Speaker 2: what would you rather have Trey Young or Damian Lillard? Now,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm just spitballing, Robin. This was beautiful

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Speaker 2: about the NBA. I would say my biggest takeaway from

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Speaker 2: this Dame article is that all of a sudden, we've

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Speaker 2: got four stars to you know, be plus stars who

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Speaker 2: could be on the move this offseason. We know that

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Speaker 2: Trey Young is up near the top. We know that

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Speaker 2: if the Cavs sputter Donovan Mitchell could be on the move.

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Speaker 2: I think Lebron can be put to the side for now.

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Speaker 2: But I also am of the belief hear me out

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Speaker 2: that if the MAVs sputter Kyrie Irving becomes one of

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Speaker 2: those guys who could be on the move, and the

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Speaker 2: last guy would say, we'll see what happens if the

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Speaker 2: Sixers totally flame out, don't get out of the plane,

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Speaker 2: and emb is just like, screw this, we had a

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Speaker 2: good run, but you know what effort. I'm out. He

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Speaker 2: demands a trade like we could see just a flurry

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Speaker 2: of guys and you toss Damon there, Rob and all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden you've got one of these like throwback

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Speaker 2: NBA julyes where it's like chaos happening left and right.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And you know, I did watch you guys on

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Speaker 1: the Herd yesterday and I saw Colin, you know, kind

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Speaker 1: of shoot down the idea that all of the movement

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Speaker 1: was not necessarily good for the NBA. He said, only

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Speaker 1: really good for Lebron and other than that, it's kind

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Speaker 1: of backfired in a lot of different situations. But I'm

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Speaker 1: more with you. I think that what makes the NBA interesting,

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Speaker 1: especially now, is not necessarily the day to day, night

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Speaker 1: to night action. You know. I mean, I'm gonna watch

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Speaker 1: anyways because I'm a sports fan, but that's not necessarily

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Speaker 1: what drives interest in the NBA. What drives interest in

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Speaker 1: the NBA, and it has been this way for almost

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Speaker 1: fifteen years now, is the transient nature of the sport.

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Speaker 1: The fact that the idea of having a quote unquote

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Speaker 1: dream team was only like in your imagination in the nineties, right,

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Speaker 1: Like that was not realistic to expect your favorite player

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Speaker 1: to team up. And now it's almost expected that your

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Speaker 1: going to try to team up. And we saw Dame Lillard.

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Speaker 1: He tried his best to get himself down to Miami.

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Speaker 1: Didn't ultimately work out for you, but he ended up

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Speaker 1: in Milwaukee, and at the time, everybody was so excited

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Speaker 1: And I would actually argue the fact that they've been scuffled.

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Speaker 1: Now they're playing better as of late, but the fact

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Speaker 1: that Drian Griffin got acts the way that he did,

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Speaker 1: makes them even more interesting, because now you're not just

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Speaker 1: talking about whether or not Dame and Yiannis can win

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Speaker 1: a championship together. What you're talking about is is Dame

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Speaker 1: gonna ask out again? Is Yannis gonna ask out? Now

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Speaker 1: that we put all our chips to the middle of

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Speaker 1: the table, we don't have any more assets moving forward

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Speaker 1: outside of Dame, because you know, Middleton's a depreciating asset,

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Speaker 1: Lopez is a depreciating asset. Maybe Yanis becomes the next

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Speaker 1: superstar to ask out and suddenly, rather than just being

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Speaker 1: worried about the bucks, and Bucks fans. Now you have

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Speaker 1: fan bases all across the country, all across the league,

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Speaker 1: getting excited and percolating a little bit because now they

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Speaker 1: think they got a chance to get one of these

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Speaker 1: two guys. So I think this Dame story was spicy.

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Speaker 1: I'm honestly surprised that he went that in depth on

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Speaker 1: the record to anybody. But it's great content for us,

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Speaker 1: let me tell you that much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly, I just looked it up. So the Bucks

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Speaker 2: are fourth in offensive efficiency, which is fine, but weirdly

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Speaker 2: they are down to seventeenth in defense. That is kind

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Speaker 2: of sort of stunning to me. This is a team

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Speaker 2: that was fourth in defense last year to drop to seventeenth. Listen,

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Speaker 2: they're old, Rob Middleton, Lopez, They're getting up. Their Dame

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Speaker 2: is a drop, massive drop off from Drew Holliday. And

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw this, but there's this

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Speaker 2: alleged forty twenty rule. I shouldn't say alleged. Apparently Phil

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Speaker 2: Jackson's a believer. Have you heard of this thing? Rob?

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Speaker 2: I have not. Okay, So, according to Phil Jackson, you

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Speaker 2: want to win forty games before you suffer twenty losses.

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Speaker 2: And I guess Historically, teams that win forty games before

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Speaker 2: losing twenty are going to win the title. So teams

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Speaker 2: that have hit the forty twenty rule, the Celtics, the Thunder,

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Speaker 2: and the Wolves. I only think one of those three

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Speaker 2: can can win the title this year. Sorry Thunder fans

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Speaker 2: and Wolves fans, but teams that are still in the

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Speaker 2: mix to win it Nuggets, Calves, paper Clips, now rob.

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Speaker 2: One of the teams that we didn't mention is the Bucks.

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Speaker 2: I don't do you even consider the Bucks like one

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Speaker 2: right now, no, I mean it's crazy they can't hit

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Speaker 2: the forty twenty rue because they have twenty one losses already.

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Speaker 2: But it just strikes me as very strange that and

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Speaker 2: there's nothing to shake a stick at, you know. The

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's not Dame, You're right, and maybe it's Yannest.

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Speaker 2: Maybe Gianna says, you know what, I asked for an upgrade,

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Speaker 2: You guys got it, and this doesn't worked out, and

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Speaker 2: now I'm done here. Let's say let's just spin this forward.

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Speaker 2: Bucks are the three. Let's say they face Oh, well,

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Speaker 2: the Sixers are tired with the Heat. Let's say the

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Speaker 2: Heat get the six That ain't a great matchup. Dame

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Speaker 2: wanted to go to Miami. You know, Jimmy Butler and

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Speaker 2: Company's gonna be saying that to him on the court.

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Speaker 2: It's just disappointing. Rob Kevin Durant's talking about the Olympics

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Speaker 1: your point, Team USA in the last Olympics, which was

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Speaker 1: in Tokyo, it was in twenty twenty one, but it

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Speaker 1: was the twenty twenty Olympics, they lost in the first

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Speaker 1: round of pool play to France. They ended up redeeming

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Speaker 1: themselves in the gold medal game, but that loss to

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Speaker 1: France was their first American Olympic loss of any kind

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Speaker 1: since two thousand and four. And you recall after two

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Speaker 1: thousand and four, we sent the Redeemed team who came

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Speaker 1: out and restored order with Kobe and Lebron and d

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Speaker 1: Wade and all those guys. The difference between that team,

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Speaker 1: the Redeemed team, and this current iteration that's going to

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Speaker 1: be coming out this summer is in two thousand and eight,

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Speaker 1: Americans still ran the NBA. Kobe, Lebron, d Wade, Carmel

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Speaker 1: kd those were the best players in me. There was

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Speaker 1: no question, there was no like Palagosol was great love

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Speaker 1: the Lakers. Palgasol was not considered a top five, top

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Speaker 1: ten player in the NBA. He just wasn't. So for them,

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Speaker 1: it was about establishing or re establishing ourselves as the

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Speaker 1: preeminent superpower in basketball, and they did that. But now

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Speaker 1: in today's NBA, American players have been like left by

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Speaker 1: the wayside. I know that everybody gets excited about the

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Speaker 1: idea of Lebron and Steph and KD and Tatum and

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Speaker 1: all these guys teaming up, but just looking at the

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Speaker 1: DraftKings MVP odds as of this morning, Nikola Jokic, Shay Gillis,

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Speaker 1: Alexander Luka, Doncic Janis are the top four. Mbid was

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Speaker 1: the favorite before he got hurt. That means the top

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Speaker 1: five MVP guys are all international foreign born players. So

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Speaker 1: why on earth would I be so excited about flexing

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Speaker 1: our muscles and showing how dominant USA basketball is in

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Speaker 1: the Olympics when here in the United States in the NBA,

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Speaker 1: the American born players have clearly taken a step back.

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Speaker 1: Like I want Katie to be like, you know, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna beat the Denver Nuggets by forty or fifty points

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Speaker 1: because they got two international players and their starting lineup.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to see Kevin Durant and Devin Booker roll

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Speaker 1: up into Oklahoma City and say, you know what, Shay,

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Speaker 1: Tonight's not your night, buddy. We're gonna clamp you down

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Speaker 1: the same way MJ and pittpen did the Tony Kuk

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Speaker 1: coach in the Olympics. And that's just not happening. So

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Speaker 1: if the only way we can re establish the American

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Speaker 1: dominance in basketball is to send out the Avengers where

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Speaker 1: we have twelve all NBA guys and the other teams

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Speaker 1: have two. Like, I don't think that's a fair fight.

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Speaker 1: I'd rather you come out in the NBA against with

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Speaker 1: your team and their team and don't let Luka Doncish

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Speaker 1: smirk in your face in a Game seven because they're

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Speaker 1: up by forty points in the second quarter. Like that's

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Speaker 1: what I be more impressed by.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm one hundred percent with you. It is good

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Speaker 2: when we agree, Rob. I feel like I agree with

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Speaker 2: you more than I do Colherd. Now, I don't think

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Speaker 2: you'll agree with on this. I don't have the bandwidth

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Speaker 2: to really get into the freaking Jets because you guys know,

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Speaker 2: like I did get excited. First of all, historically a

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Speaker 2: year ago this time, I was clamoring for Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 2: Go look it up. They were on the podcast, there

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Speaker 2: was videos we put out about it. I thought the

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Speaker 2: Jets should have gone after Lamar he won the MVP. Whatever,

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Speaker 2: they got Aaron Rodgers, and I said, I don't love

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Speaker 2: it given this guy's history. But you know what, I'm

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Speaker 2: a ride with the Jets. They're the team I've rowed

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Speaker 2: a ford for forever. Let's go Jets. I think it

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Speaker 2: was four plays in he gets injured. Season over bummer.

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Speaker 2: And you know, Zach Wilson had some moments there for

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Speaker 2: a minute and they were frisky and then it fell apart. Shocker.

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Speaker 2: And so it's just another year of disappointment. So I'm

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Speaker 2: not really excited about the off season. They're keeping Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 2: they keep the dumbass offensive coordinator. Like, I'm not optimistic.

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Speaker 2: That being said, Mikole Hartman was with the Jets last year.

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Speaker 2: Midway through the season, either they dump him or he's

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Speaker 2: traded to the Chiefs. He goes on to win the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl. I believe he caught the game when he

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Speaker 2: touchdown passed in the Super Bowl, so me Cole Hartman

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Speaker 2: gets the last laugh. Haha. I was at the crap

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Speaker 2: Jets and now I won a Super Bowl. Another ring.

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Speaker 2: I'm hugging Taylor Swift on Super Bowl Sunday.

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Speaker 1: What a life?

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Speaker 2: And if that's not if it's not enough of a flex.

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Speaker 2: He decided to go take a take a dump on

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Speaker 2: the Jets on some podcast and was like, these guys

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Speaker 2: don't have a winning culture, blah blah blah, and then

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Speaker 2: the Jets punter, I know punter responds like, listen, maybe

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Speaker 2: you're just mad because you got bypassed early in the

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Speaker 2: season by I believe, an undrafted free agent, the punter

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Speaker 2: who punt returner who ran back the kick against the

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Speaker 2: Bills on the opening opening game, which was thrilling, Like

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Speaker 2: maybe you're just mad about that, like sour grapes. And

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Speaker 2: then other Jets said, bro, you know, essentially, why did

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Speaker 2: you leak our game plan to the Chiefs? And there's

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Speaker 2: one other game Eagles, Yes, thank you Eagles, and che

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Speaker 2: why'd you leak our game plan? And hertan quickly was quiet,

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Speaker 2: but essentially all the dopey Chiefs fans are like, oh,

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Speaker 2: we'll see me Cole Harbin's right, and Rob, I'll just

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Speaker 2: be succinct with this. Yes, Mi Cole Hardman is correct.

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Speaker 2: The Jets don't know Jack Squat about how to win.

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00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: They decided they're going to hitch your wagon to Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is all about Aaron Rodgers, and the Jets

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Speaker 2: aren't buttoned up. It was a mess. Mikole Hartman is

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Speaker 2: correct that being said, the Jets punter ain't wrong. Me

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Speaker 2: Cole Hardman came in a distinguished player. He had been successful.

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Speaker 2: That's why the Jets went after him, and pretty early

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Speaker 2: in the process he got beat out for the punt

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Speaker 2: returning duties by an undrafted rookie. And maybe Mi Cole

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Speaker 2: Hartman was ticked off. It's not like he's out there

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Speaker 2: catching a million passes. Why wasn't he Why wasn't he

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Speaker 2: running routes? Was he did? He come in with an

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Speaker 2: entitled attitude that, oh, you guys don't know squat. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: got Kara Wilson's good, I'm the second best receiver here.

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Speaker 2: Alan Lazard supposed to be good. And I'm just saying, yes,

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Speaker 2: Mikole's right about the Jets, but also don't discount what

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Speaker 2: the punter said, Remember, this guy's on special teams. He's

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Speaker 2: seeing hardman up close, he's seeing work ethic. He knows

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Speaker 2: what's going on. And to just dismiss the punter as,

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Speaker 2: oh there's dopey punter doesn't win anything. I just it's

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Speaker 2: just annoying and laying. But you know what, it's a

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Speaker 2: Jets discussion, Rob, So I can't get fired up either way.

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Speaker 2: It's I'm just it's like you're a Raiders fan and

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Speaker 2: it's funny everybody's talking about, Oh, what quarterback are the

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Speaker 2: Falcon's gonna get? Oh what quarterback are the Steelers gonna get?

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Speaker 2: Where are they gonna go? Yeah, some teams need quarterbacks. Well,

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Speaker 2: the Raiders need a quarterback and nobody's talking about them.

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Speaker 2: It's like, it ain't gonna be an O'Connell. He ain't

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Speaker 2: gonna be under center week one, that's for sure. And

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Speaker 2: if he is, go ahead and write the season off.

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Speaker 2: But like, at least you guys are irrelevant. Nobody's kicking

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Speaker 2: you while you're down. The Jets are down and they

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00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 2: have been for a decade and they're just getting beaten

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Speaker 2: to death. Oh my gosh, it's so bad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, blame hard knocks. You know what's you know what

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Speaker 1: I'll say as a Raider fan, and you can I

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Speaker 1: think now you're understanding this is I've reached the point

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Speaker 1: in my Raider fandom where literally anything can come out

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Speaker 1: of that building. And I wouldn't be surprised, right like

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Speaker 1: Antonio Brown froze his feet off, Not surprised Josh McDaniel

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Speaker 1: was voted the worst coach by a mile in the

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Speaker 1: nflp A pol Not surprised what I was flabbergasted when

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Speaker 1: sauce Gardner made the allegations that McCole hartmon was leaking

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Speaker 1: game plans to the Eagles and the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: He did delete them, by the way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah but it's but And then s n Y doubled

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Speaker 1: up on it and saying, yes, there was validated belief

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Speaker 1: from the Jets that he did this. He was frustrated

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Speaker 1: with his lack of usage, leaked the game plans and

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Speaker 1: as implied by several players, not even just one guy

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Speaker 1: who said it, and I would I was shocked, not

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Speaker 1: that somebody would leak game plans with other team, because

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Speaker 1: you know, all these guys are friendly these days, they

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Speaker 1: all train together, and who's to say that mcole Hartmon

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Speaker 1: is not talking to a defensive back like, oh man,

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Speaker 1: we got something for you.

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Speaker 2: Guys.

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Speaker 1: You know that that that back end looks looks soft.

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Speaker 1: So okay, so they have They're gonna try to throw

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Speaker 1: the ball a lot, like that's not really hard to

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Speaker 1: and I can imagine that happening. What blew my mind

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Speaker 1: was multiple Jets players all believe that Hardman leaked game

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Speaker 1: plans and nothing came of it. Like if you really

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Speaker 1: thought that, how on earth is he even walking into

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Speaker 1: the building right? But like, how is he not getting

583
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Speaker 1: full metal jacketed right now? Just tied up to the

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Speaker 1: post and then beaten with the soap bars in the

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Speaker 1: socks like and and for whatever reason that's implied, a

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Speaker 1: few guys go on record about it, and Makole Hardman

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Speaker 1: still finds a way to get out of there, go

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Speaker 1: to the Chiefs and win a Super Bowl, Like if

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00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: that doesn't scream not even just this dysfunction, but ineptitude

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00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: by the New York Jets, and it shows where their

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Speaker 1: focus was as a team, Like, I don't know what

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Speaker 1: else does.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's disappointing, but this is the organization I choose

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00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 2: to root for and as usual, my kids this fall

595
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 2: will say, Dad, why are you a jutivating in because

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00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: you were born in New York. Well that's dumb. And

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00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 2: then they'll say go Rams or go Chiefs or whoever's

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00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 2: go go forty nine or you know, like that's what

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00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 2: kids do. Anyways. All right, that's it for the week.

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Speaker 2: Back on Monday. Should be a good weekend of college basketball,

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Speaker 2: maybe some good NBA action combine stuff. I think we'll

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Speaker 2: probably have some combine fallout next week. Talk to you then,