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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys blowing out of the backfield.

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Speaker 3: Next flowing down the sideline.

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Speaker 1: This He's Hanging with the Boys, presented by Windstuff where

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Speaker 1: Flavor gets its wings. Now your hosts, Nate Newton, Kirk Daniels,

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Speaker 1: Jesse Holly and Shannon Gross.

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Speaker 3: It stirs day and we are back. That's a lot.

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Speaker 3: Look at the Tostitos Championship Plaza outside in front of

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Speaker 3: the Fourth Center where it is hot tot hot. The

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Speaker 3: high one hundred and three. Currently right now it is

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Speaker 3: one hundred and two. The low is seventy six degrees.

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Speaker 3: To my left is Kurt three punks. Daniels on the phone.

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Speaker 3: Is the big fella. Nate Newton in the back. We

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Speaker 3: got Paul. Shannon is in Canton, Ohio doing work. I

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Speaker 3: am Salt and Pepper Poppy. Together we make Hanging with

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Speaker 3: gets its.

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Speaker 4: We yes, what's that big fella man, y'all? What's happening? Man?

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Speaker 4: You know I guess Canton, you know, I mean you

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Speaker 4: want Shannon there can't just living it.

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Speaker 3: Up, it says, so it says, I don't know this

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Speaker 3: doing Canton, about living it up. Travel A couple of

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Speaker 3: times I wasn't. I wouldn't call Canton, Ohio place where

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Speaker 3: you living it up.

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Speaker 4: But we're from it may not.

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Speaker 3: Be it does it does. The Cowboys are back at

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Speaker 3: practice today after a day off yesterday. We just saw Nate,

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Speaker 3: I know that you're live in Oxtar, California. We just

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Speaker 3: saw via social media that the Lion, Michaeh Parsons in

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Speaker 3: his hold in is kind of walking around practice today comfortable, comfortable.

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Speaker 3: He's not in afleets, he's not in sneakers, and a

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Speaker 3: good pair of crocs is a good pair of crocs.

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Speaker 3: So we we've come to the point where Micah is

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Speaker 3: not even pretending anymore. It's not this is not even

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Speaker 3: I ain't doing nothing to you. Ain't getting too much

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Speaker 3: out of me, uh today, but just getting right into

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Speaker 3: what we saw the other day with the Cowboys at

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Speaker 3: training camp. We saw head coach Mike McCarthy and and

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Speaker 3: it's his conversation since he's gotten his job and he's

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Speaker 3: talked more about that.

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Speaker 5: Lord.

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Speaker 3: Shottenheimer, Lord forgive me. I don't know where that came from.

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Speaker 3: He has been very, very adamant since he's gotten this

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Speaker 3: job about what he wanted this football team to be,

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Speaker 3: and physical has been the theme that he's talked about.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And then yesterday in practice and and the other days

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Speaker 3: in practice, the Cowboys have talked about being disciplined and

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Speaker 3: not having the fights and not doing those things. And

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Speaker 3: we saw yesterday and I'll start with you, Nate, uh

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Speaker 3: coach Schottenheimer making the team old school style, get on

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Speaker 3: the line and run, because he got a little bit

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Speaker 3: ticked off about the excessive amount of fighting that was

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Speaker 3: happening happening in training camp. Nate, is this something that

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Speaker 3: you think with the form of punishment, will that will

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Speaker 3: will get them back in line? Like, what do you

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Speaker 3: do you about the fighting happened?

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Speaker 4: He got training camp, It was bound to happen. The

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Speaker 4: speed of practice, even when pads and I don't like

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Speaker 4: yesterday were just the shells, just the speed and always

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Speaker 4: the twenty four to seven competition of getting out for

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Speaker 4: the guy, competing against a guy, whereas you know last year,

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Speaker 4: you know, guys could run off the line. It was

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Speaker 4: through there pretty clean. And you know you can't go

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Speaker 4: run free. Everybody's stay up at all costs. But that's

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Speaker 4: not happening now. And he said today at first time,

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Speaker 4: the guy's gonna have to take it to the edge

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Speaker 4: because that is what gets you right. And I'm saying

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Speaker 4: even further, especially in the NFC, that's what gets you right.

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Speaker 4: I know he's not going to back down, but he

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Speaker 4: this is your teammates. Take it to the edge and

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Speaker 4: then back up. You gotta know where that edge at.

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Speaker 4: And now you now they know where that edge at

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Speaker 6: When's the last time you heard of a coach, Paul,

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Speaker 6: when's the last time a coach ran as players like that?

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Speaker 4: Probably been It's probably been a while, man, I mean,

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Speaker 4: all that was attention getter. Uh. The only people that

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Speaker 4: we're gonna be fighting. But it's a good thing, man.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's pushing it to the edge and uh,

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Speaker 4: do you know people telling him what are you going

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Speaker 4: to do with it? He don't care. At this point.

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Speaker 4: It's time to get prepared to play. Man.

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Speaker 6: That's what causes all these skirmishes, is that because everybody, Okay,

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Speaker 6: if everybody knows you're going right to the edge and

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Speaker 5: Coming at him, is it that just one.

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Speaker 6: Guy taking a little too far? Is it all the

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Speaker 4: I mean, all of that, all of the above. Guys

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Speaker 4: I don't know you guys, he took a different tactic

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Speaker 4: than this coach. He knows these guys. You're like, I

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Speaker 4: don't know of y'all. You got to show me you

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Speaker 4: can play. And that's whether you in pass out of pads.

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Speaker 4: We have a certain tempoint. You gotta show and this guys,

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Speaker 4: especially the running backs, they they everybody feel like they

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Speaker 4: give you example. I thought Austin Richards would be the

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Speaker 4: the case. Nate Thomas is the is the is the

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Speaker 4: That's where they at. They too deep at every position,

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Speaker 4: and if a guy ahead of you goes down for

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Speaker 4: any reason, you go in. You go in, and you

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Speaker 6: Susan, is that fair for a coach to ask for

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Speaker 6: this physicalness, for this taking it to the edge, and

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Speaker 6: then get mad and start running guys.

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Speaker 4: You know what, my friends, that's old school Jesse. Remember

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Speaker 4: we used to go to the edge. I mean, players

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Speaker 4: have to know you have to know how far to

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Speaker 4: push it. And and now that they know, I mean,

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Speaker 4: players should be in by the next week. Guys should

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Speaker 4: be in a good rhythm, knowing what the coach want,

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Speaker 4: knowing how to practice and and and and what it

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Speaker 4: does is just raises your level of uh of intensity.

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Speaker 4: That's all it does, you know. And it's called adversity

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Speaker 4: playing through every Sola guy gab in your chest and

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Speaker 4: long as you know, Sola guy kind of pushed you

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Speaker 4: I don't see let them flying off trying to beat

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Speaker 4: that guy or beat up the guys out on your team, No.

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Speaker 3: I think you're making a fantastic point. And a lot

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Speaker 3: all heard about Brian Shotton coming in here and it

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Speaker 3: And so to go from being undisciplined and having a

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Speaker 3: culture of tender this Cowboys team because this team wasn't

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Speaker 3: a physically tough team. It wasn't. We weren't, and we

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Speaker 3: I'm doing this thing differently, right, And this is just

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Speaker 3: And if you're going from being the whining cheese and

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Speaker 3: This is a part of the process, right. The fights

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Speaker 3: new physical thing because it wasn't a part of who

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Speaker 3: Nate was saying, Shoddy is doing this thing. And I

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Speaker 3: Now you know that CD ain't compete for playing time,

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Speaker 3: you know that, and you know that dak ain't compete

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Speaker 3: for playing time, right, those guys are solidified. But everyone

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Speaker 3: I forgot it was either the offensive line coach or

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Speaker 3: Shoddy said, you know, everyone else gains an offensive line

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Speaker 3: except Tyler Smith is competing for a job.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: But when you have that love of competition, it does

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Speaker 4: And so I like hostility.

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't want the fighting, but in this

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Speaker 3: applaud uh Cooshatti because he's also saying I want the physicalness,

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Speaker 3: I want the aggressive this, I want the culture change.

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Speaker 3: But we can't fight because not just because you can't

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Speaker 3: fight your teammates, it's a fifteen yard penalty the game

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Speaker 3: like that's a fifteen So I don't even want to

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Speaker 3: begin that culture and see, and that's the biggest thing

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Speaker 3: is that I'm not saying that there aren't fights at

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Speaker 3: training camp. But if you go around and look at

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Speaker 3: the other teams in the league that we deem physical

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Speaker 3: football teams, the Baltimore or the Niners and all that

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Speaker 3: kind of stuff, you don't hear about fights. Yeah, at

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Speaker 3: it's a part of who they are. So you know,

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Speaker 3: every day I come out here practice that is, especially

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Speaker 4: think that all years. Yes, I mean, we know it's

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Speaker 3: Yeah? All right, neck, you're gonna stay here with us

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Speaker 4: this thing, the guys that are mentally and physically smart

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Speaker 4: enough and capable to survive this thing. Because if you

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Speaker 4: if you back up and start going the other way.

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Speaker 4: What brings penalties? Two things bring penalties exhausting, not being

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Speaker 4: in shape, and of talent. And if you don't have talent,

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Speaker 4: you definitely got to be in shape and you got

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Speaker 4: to be mentally smart to give yourself a chance. So

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Speaker 4: you got to keep pushing forward. You got to find

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Speaker 4: out who those smart guys are, who you can depend

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Speaker 4: on when when when when? Adversity, which is exhaustion, is

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Speaker 4: a part of adversity. Being out of shape is a

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Speaker 4: part of adversity. You got to know these things where

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Speaker 4: guys can learn to work through them. Like you said

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Speaker 4: it perfect. Some guys are hurt and used to be.

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Speaker 4: The last year, when guys got hurt, they walked away.

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Speaker 4: And the guys that are truly injured, I mean you

449
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Speaker 4: know who they are, they don't make it back. But

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Speaker 4: the guys that, oh man, I got to bump on them.

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Speaker 4: Oh I got my anchor rolled up on. Can you walk?

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Speaker 4: Can you run? Is anything structurally damage? No? It Now

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Speaker 4: it comes down to your threshold of pain. So a

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Speaker 4: lot of guys either going to learn to work through

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Speaker 4: it or they'll be sitting on the bench and out

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Speaker 4: the other guy there to hurt pinky paying. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 4: all it is.

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Speaker 5: Yet I like that.

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Speaker 6: Way he put it that this isn't just about the

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Speaker 6: physicality of getting ready to hit or whatever. It's the

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Speaker 6: mental side of if you survive, you're ready interesting.

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Speaker 3: And that's why I say, personally, even there is not

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Speaker 3: a and I have to say this, I have to

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Speaker 3: say this correctly because I know people will hold me

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Speaker 3: to it and they be like, he can't stop, no,

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Speaker 3: no matter who gets hurt. And I'm not saying be reckless, right,

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying be reckless.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean guy and getting hurt that was just

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Speaker 6: in the normal course of play.

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Speaker 3: You don't cannot stop. But even if it means that

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Speaker 3: we go into the early part of this year a

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Speaker 3: little bit banged up, because eventually you're gonna get these

473
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Speaker 3: guys back. But what you're trying to build is if

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Speaker 3: you're truly trying to build culture, and if this is

475
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Speaker 3: the thing that you're trying to build one, you're not

476
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Speaker 3: gonna do it in three months. You're just not. It's

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Speaker 3: not happening in three months. This if your leash is

478
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Speaker 3: long enough. Now I know I put the man out

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Speaker 3: of a job in a year and a half. If

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Speaker 3: you don't get this stuff right, I know I stand

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Speaker 3: on that, and I still stand on that. But if

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Speaker 3: your if your agenda and your goal and your purpose

483
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Speaker 3: is to truly change the culture, it's gonna take more

484
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Speaker 3: than three months. So I cannot stop. I'm not wishing injury, hurt,

485
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Speaker 3: harm or danger on anyone, but there is no one

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Speaker 3: that should be able to stop this physical train from

487
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Speaker 3: moving forward. We'll figure it out. And even if somebody

488
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Speaker 3: gets hurt in practice. Again, if an ankle gets rolled

489
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Speaker 3: up on, or somebody following somebody, that's not malicious, right,

490
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Speaker 3: it's not malicious. Now if someone takes a dirty shot

491
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Speaker 3: at somebody, that's malicious. But you gotta this thing. This,

492
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Speaker 3: this thing has to go through the season.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, if he backs off, it has to go.

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Speaker 3: It has to go because until they truly believe that

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Speaker 3: they are physical and this is the thing, This is

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Speaker 3: the thing, This is the thing. It's one thing to

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Speaker 3: to sign up for karate class. It's one thing to

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Speaker 3: sign up for a kickboxing class. It's one thing to

499
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Speaker 3: sign up for a boxing class. It's a whole other

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Speaker 3: thing from doing the practice what's all, how y'all? And

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Speaker 3: doing the shadow boxing and doing all that kind of

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Speaker 3: stuff to somebody punches you in the until you get

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Speaker 3: punched in the face. Right, because you can do all

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Speaker 3: this and talk about this we're physical or work physical

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Speaker 3: world physical. And then you gotta go see Trent Williams

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Speaker 3: and he says, and.

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Speaker 5: Then you go, they're gonna see it in week one.

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Speaker 4: Right, do.

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Speaker 3: You revert back to what you were or do you

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Speaker 3: go you get punched in the face and you go,

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Speaker 3: got it, you puss back in the face that that's

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Speaker 3: where it has to be.

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Speaker 4: And so it just may They tell elm be flood.

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Speaker 4: It ain't no fun when the rabbit.

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Speaker 3: Got the It's not fun when the rabbit got the gun.

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Speaker 3: You gotta gotta be a rabbit now. You got to

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Speaker 3: beat the rabbit now. And so for for Shoty, this

518
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 3: is your shot man. This is what you've been waiting

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Speaker 3: twenty years for. This is the part where if if

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna truly do this, it's gonna be done my way.

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Speaker 6: We've talked too about you know, Nate always says, all

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Speaker 6: the first five games of the regular season or your

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Speaker 6: preseason are getting in shape, and you see all these

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Speaker 6: early season injuries. This has to kind of eliminate some

525
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Speaker 6: of that, Right, they're gonna be better ready to hit

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Speaker 6: the ground runner.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. And the thing about it is, like I said,

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Speaker 4: we got seven core guys. You got to give a

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Speaker 4: few of these guys some pre season. I mean, Nate

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Speaker 4: Thomas is that's say he that's say he's the guy

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Speaker 4: that's say Austin Riches can't take his job. Well, you

532
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Speaker 4: got to give them something in the preseason. You know

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Speaker 4: you got it. When Verse come in here with the

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Speaker 4: Rams and uh Poona Nathan and Poonam forwards, you and

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Speaker 4: all these guys come in, you gotta make sure they're

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Speaker 4: up and running that Hey, fellas, this is what we're

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Speaker 4: gonna face. And these are the type of guys that

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Speaker 4: play play like closest to the NFC East. The East

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Speaker 4: is the beast man, I mean, and I ain't talking

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Speaker 4: about I don't know what the record of Philadelphia gonna be.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what the record of the Giant's gonna be.

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Speaker 4: At the Washington team, but I know they've all got

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Speaker 4: defenses and they are all healthy at this point. We

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Speaker 4: don't know about it a month from now, but as

545
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Speaker 4: of right now, they are all healthy. So let's go man,

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Speaker 4: tell us how to appreciate y'all. Let me take up

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Speaker 4: a little bit of your time, Jess. I mean, I

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Speaker 4: hope you find places of Frank Sinash before y'all get

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Speaker 4: off there, and y'all have a great all right, all right,

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Speaker 4: we'll go to.

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Speaker 3: We'll go to our last break as we as Nate

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Speaker 3: Newton goes back to doing what Nate Newton does in Oxtar, California.

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Speaker 3: When we come back from this break, we'll just we'll

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Speaker 3: we'll we'll go through a list of different things that

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Speaker 3: well we can talk about, uh, talking about how he

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Speaker 3: wants an attacking front line, does he have to play

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Speaker 3: it for it? Does he have does he have the

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Speaker 3: jimmies and joels to match the x's and o's that

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Speaker 3: he wants to put in place for the Cowboys deference

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Speaker 3: bow on this show, we're always gonna talk about the offense, right.

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Speaker 3: It is the staple of the Dallas Cowboys. It's been

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Speaker 3: that way for a while. They get all the pretty girls, right,

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Speaker 3: Yes I do, Kurt, Yes, yes I do. But the

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Speaker 3: one thing that we know that has been a thorn

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Speaker 3: importantly and more specifically the defensive line. Head coach, excuse me,

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Speaker 3: defensive coordinator. Former head coach defensive coordinator for the Cowboys. Now,

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Speaker 3: Matt Eberflus was talking about wanting to have an attacking front,

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Speaker 3: and one thing about that. When you hear the word

651
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Speaker 3: attacking front, that means I want to go and get

652
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Speaker 3: the quarter back. I want to be moving up the field.

653
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Speaker 6: That wanting some clarification on now you're just moving forward

654
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Speaker 6: to it than Yeah.

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Speaker 3: This, this, this defensive front under under Matt Eberflus is

656
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 3: a front that's going to move forward. It's not going

657
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 3: to be a lot of exotic you know. And what

658
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Speaker 3: I mean where you know, a bunch of guys are

659
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 3: standing around and moving around. It may be some slants,

660
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 3: meaning the offensive line may excuse me, the defensive line

661
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 3: may line up, and then the entire defensive line may

662
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 3: slant right right. I'll slint everybody right, and they have

663
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 3: a backer looping around left to clean up whatever is

664
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Speaker 3: is coming off that side. So and that may be

665
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Speaker 3: some of the ways. Here's my issue. And I don't

666
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Speaker 3: know if this is going to get me in trouble,

667
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 3: but one did it ever stop me? The great people

668
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Speaker 3: and I don't know, Paul, you might have been a

669
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Speaker 3: part of this. They they they they did a they

670
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Speaker 3: did a clip. And when we're talking about an attacking front,

671
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Speaker 3: and I don't want to attack this, but he is

672
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 3: the topic of discussion, Mozzie Smith. He is a person

673
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 3: that's in the center of this, all right, MICA's and Crocs.

674
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Speaker 3: So until Micah gets a deal, CROs and he won't

675
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 3: be a part of this attacking defensive front. But Mozzie

676
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 3: Smith is a guy that we're all going to be

677
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 3: looking at and hopefully, hopefully depending on to step up

678
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 3: and play a role. But this clip and this sequence

679
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 3: in this clip has never left my mind since I

680
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 3: saw it. And the good people here at Dallas Cowboys

681
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Speaker 3: dot Com they do a fantastic job with giving you

682
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 3: some of the sound the sound bites and some of

683
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 3: the miked up stuff. And they were doing a segment

684
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Speaker 3: during OTA's and I want to say it was Coach

685
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 3: White Cotton and he was miked up and he had

686
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 3: the defensive linemen and they were doing the hoop drill.

687
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 3: If you don't know what the hoop drill, it's it's

688
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 3: think a hula hoop and then your normal sized hula

689
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 3: hoop and then magnified times five. It's a big hoop.

690
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 3: And the purpose of this drill is to maintain your

691
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 3: leverage low, staying low, being able to lean, being able

692
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 3: to keep your pad level down. You start at one

693
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 3: end of the hula hoop and you just basically want

694
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 3: to do a circle as fast as you can, and

695
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 3: then they'll add you see at the combine you see

696
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 3: it in drills, they'll add a towel to it so

697
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 3: that when you coming by, you can swipe pick up

698
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 3: the towel at one end of the hoop, and then

699
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 3: when you get the top of the other in the hoop,

700
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 3: you drop the towel down and then you finish through

701
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 3: the drill. And I watched this drill and to the

702
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 3: common eye, you saw Coach white Cotton and he's excited

703
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 3: and he's hype, and you know he's raw rack. And

704
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 3: Mazie comes to this drill and you immediately see him

705
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 3: straight up and he gets stuck like he's trying to

706
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 3: get around the hoop. And if you know anything about

707
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 3: if you're running track, if you're a NASCAR, it's all

708
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 3: about being low and tight and low to the ground,

709
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 3: and if you get high, you'll get stuck. And he

710
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 3: gets high and you can see he gets stuck trying

711
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 3: to turn the corner where he has to kind of

712
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 3: hicc up to get around. And I heard Coach Whitecott

713
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 3: yell at him. He says, he's like, you know, I

714
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 3: don't care if you didn't do it right. You're competed.

715
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, that's not good. That's not good.

716
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 3: It's just not good because we're trying to teach and

717
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 3: give better habits to a player who's lacking good habits.

718
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 3: And one of the things that he lacks is get

719
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 3: off pat leverage. And this is why you see him

720
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 3: get moved over two and three holes and out of

721
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 3: the screen for offensive lineman because he's just pat level

722
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 3: them officive lineman get up under you, and they just

723
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 3: they're road graders. And if ibra Flus is going to

724
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 3: have an attacking defensive line and attacking front, I am

725
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 3: I am, honestly, Kurt, I'm lost at ways that he's

726
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 3: going to accomplish this.

727
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Speaker 6: M Yeah, because you don't have the sie or the size.

728
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Speaker 5: Okay, you don't.

729
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 3: You don't have the size, you don't have the I

730
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 3: don't know if you have the players.

731
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Speaker 6: Would you forego like this rookie to uh is huge parents,

732
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 6: you know he's a big guy. To Sorry, I'll get

733
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Speaker 6: it right.

734
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Speaker 3: It's all good. He ain't done nothing, he ain't done

735
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 3: none yet. You know the rules here?

736
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 5: I need to take you know the rules? Yeah, I

737
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 5: just need to go by the name.

738
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Speaker 3: You know the rules here?

739
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 4: You don't.

740
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Speaker 3: We don't get names right here until you start doing something.

741
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 3: I called Setnheimer. Mike mcconny, do something, Yeah, do something,

742
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 3: You'll be memorable.

743
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 6: But do you I mean six two, three forty? Is

744
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 6: that Should they be focusing on him as he's first

745
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 6: and he's taking for first team reps? Is he the

746
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 6: guy you need instead of trying to get Mazzi at

747
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 6: this point to work on his pad, live on all

748
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Speaker 6: this other stuff.

749
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Speaker 3: If and now here is where logic and here is

750
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 3: where politics come into play. Logically, you would say, well,

751
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 3: this other guy's been here for a while and isn't

752
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 3: showing much. And you can hear the why the way

753
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 3: the coaches even talk about him. They're not too high

754
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 3: up on him. We should probably move on. Politically, it

755
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 3: goes from upstairs.

756
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Speaker 5: It's a first round pick.

757
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Speaker 3: Some people may say that they need three or four

758
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 3: years to get till they waiting to get to So

759
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 3: I'm not willing to give up on him just yet.

760
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 3: So now he's in the rotation. Now, no, you have

761
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Speaker 3: to file playing time for him. I hired you to

762
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 3: be a better coach. I hired you as coaches because

763
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Speaker 3: you could. You assured me that you would be able

764
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Speaker 3: to get something out of him. So that's the logical

765
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 3: approach versus the political approach that happens in football locker rooms,

766
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 3: the meeting rooms. But if Brian Schottenheimer again, it's true

767
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 3: to what he's been saying, and he's saying, those who

768
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 3: perform well in practice and earn playing time will get it.

769
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Speaker 3: And I don't know if Jay is it. And I'm

770
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 3: not saying that. I don't know. I just don't know

771
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 3: whether he's done or not done or not done. I

772
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 3: just don't know. I don't know if just because he's

773
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 3: three forty can he do it? You know, it's a

774
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 3: it's a kid right now in Tampa four pound, he's big.

775
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 3: They won't even let him practice. So, yeah, he's three forty.

776
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know, right, does he understand

777
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 3: his keys? Is his leverage? And again, is he the

778
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 3: attacking type? Because he three forty feels like two gaping.

779
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 3: It feels like, hey, just be big, just take to

780
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 3: take up two blockers, keep the linebackers clean. Three forty

781
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 3: don't sound like attacking up the field, true, right, Like

782
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 3: it just doesn't sound that way. And I'm not listen.

783
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 3: I'm an undrafted guy. I'm a try hard guy. And

784
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 3: Jason Garret said he was she had fifty three of

785
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 3: me go figure, But there's a reason why he went

786
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 3: the seventh round. And sometimes you can miss, sometimes you

787
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 3: can miss. But but but you're talking about a guy

788
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 3: who went in the seven round in a position that's

789
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 3: not normally littered with you know, super duper talent.

790
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not deep.

791
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 3: It's not defensive lineman on, it's not a deep thing,

792
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So I don't know what

793
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 3: jay Toya can do. I know what Masi has done. True,

794
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 3: So there is that there's that piece that goes back

795
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 3: and forth. Well, I know what he's gonna give me,

796
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 3: and that's that may not be what we need. And

797
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 3: I'm preseason has never had such a more meaning for

798
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 3: this front because us. You hear about all right, Sam

799
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 3: Williams is ready to play, right, You hear about Donovan

800
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 3: as a ROCKU like how he's having a fantastic training

801
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 3: camp and you you know, at some point in time,

802
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 3: hopefully the lion will come back, right sure, And you're

803
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 3: talking about Kneeland and you're talking about Fowler and right

804
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 3: these these these pass rushers who are looking to get

805
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 3: up to the quarterback. It'll all be for not if

806
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 3: you can't get a third down in passing downs. You

807
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. If you if you can't get

808
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 3: to a point where these dudes you can just unleash

809
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 3: the unhooked the leashes and let them go attack. You

810
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 3: can't play as a rock on first downs like that.

811
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 3: It's two hundred and forty pounds. What is he gonna

812
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 3: do against Jordan Mailata? Nothing unless he's able to He's not.

813
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 3: He's not. Listen, guys, he ain't running through the chests

814
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 3: of Lane Johnson. No, he ain't running through the chest

815
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 3: and Lane Johnson. And if you if it's a rundown

816
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 3: langlet you growing up the field. He's gonna let you

817
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 3: go past you. He're gonna wrek you running hoop say

818
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 3: kwan be going out the other way. So, if you

819
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 3: can't do something to put teams in necessary passing downs

820
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 3: where you can have now these specialists, that's what's gonna be.

821
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 3: And as we always say, it's a copycat league, they

822
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 3: gonna come back and go all right, New Year, save cowboys.

823
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 3: Let's find out. We're gonna find out they can actually

824
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 3: stop the run. And you're gonna get a test Week

825
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 3: one National TV. You are gonna get the biggest test.

826
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 3: There won't be a bigger test this season than.

827
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Speaker 5: Week one that line, and that's gonna be.

828
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 3: That line that running quarterback Barkley like you will not,

829
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 3: there will not be a bigger test of what you

830
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 3: are in the especially in the middle of that defense.

831
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Speaker 5: Then week one, you're feeling a lot of hope here.

832
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 3: I know what ebra Flus is saying and what he wants.

833
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 3: I don't know if he has, like he he wants

834
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 3: a Michelin's five star meal, I don't know if he

835
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 3: has utensils to provide that, not saying that they can't

836
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 3: eat good. I don't know if it's going to be

837
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 3: Michelan true, you know what I mean. I don't know

838
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 3: if it's going to be Michelan And and maybe the

839
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 3: offense kind of supplements that by going out there and

840
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 3: getting a lead and playing up ten points, fourteen points,

841
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 3: where now the opposing team has to play a little

842
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 3: bit of a catch up. And now you do that

843
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 3: through the passing game, which now allows the defense, right,

844
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 3: so like, but if you have to go just man

845
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 3: for man, I don't I don't know if the Cowboys

846
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 3: upfront currently have enough.

847
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 6: And that's I mean, that's what This is the third

848
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 6: DC in the last three years. In the first two

849
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 6: had the same issues.

850
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Speaker 5: I guess.

851
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 6: So even though is well respected and comes over with

852
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 6: you know, skins on the wall, can he scheme this

853
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 6: up to to improve it?

854
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 3: And the words of Mickey Spagnola. We'll find out. We'll

855
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 3: find out, all right, man, that's our show. They give

856
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 3: you Mickey Spagnola reference. Huh, yeah, I know he look

857
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 3: at me, evolve it, look at me growing up, you

858
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,720
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, look at me my touring. Uh,

859
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 3: that's our show, man. We appreciate you guys joining us

860
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 3: each and every week. We'll be back. What's the day

861
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Speaker 3: we bet?

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Speaker 5: Monday? Monday?

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Speaker 3: Back Monday. We'll be back Monday for another show. That

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Speaker 3: next week the Rams come to town.

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Speaker 5: Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, next week the Rams Coate's gonna guys, Nate's gonna

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Speaker 3: be tickled paint when the Rams come to town. All right, man,

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Speaker 3: thank you guys for joining us each and every week.

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Speaker 3: For Kurt, Sir Paul in the back, for Nate on

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Speaker 3: the phone, for Shannon and Canton. I am Salt Pepper, Poppy.

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Speaker 3: This is hanging with the boys. See you guys next time.

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Speaker 1: We are This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys

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