1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 3 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague West and Hot Koitz. We are 4 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: coming to you old school. I guess you could say, 5 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: little did I know? When I powered through last Thursday's 6 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: episode with that terrible voice, it was just the start 7 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: of something not good for me to come back into 8 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: the office just yet. So we pulled out the technology 9 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: that helped us out in the past and uh, and 10 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: we're back on the air, West, and this time it's 11 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: to talk about a Packers victory nineteen over the Chicago 12 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: Bears at Soldier Field. And when you start the discussion 13 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: of this game, it all starts with the fourth quarter, 14 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,319 Speaker 1: because through the first three quarters this game was not 15 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: looking good for Green Bay. No, it wasn't, Mike, and 16 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: I was sitting there, you know, especially when Chicago's driving again, 17 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: and you're kind of thinking, like, man, even if the 18 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: Packers get some answers here, are they going to be 19 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: able to stop them defensively? But in al Lazar talked 20 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: about in the postgame locker room, there were so many 21 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: parallels between this game in the Dallas game last month 22 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: where they actually had the first comeback in the fourth 23 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: quarter into me I mean between the special teams coming 24 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 1: through with the block field goal, jyr Alexander getting an interception. 25 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,559 Speaker 1: You know, he got burned twice on those deep completions. 26 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: He bounces back, responds the way you want to see 27 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: him respond, gets a big pick and the Packers scoring 28 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: points off of that pick, and certainly, you know Christian 29 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: Watson once again doing his heroics late to really put 30 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: this thing on ice for green Bay. All season long, 31 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,919 Speaker 1: like thirteen games, they've been trying to find a complimentary performance. 32 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: I felt like in all three phases they found it 33 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: at Soldier Field. Yeah, it finally came together there down 34 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: the stretch, and as you said, the complimentary performance. When 35 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: things started happening green Bay's way in the fourth quarter, 36 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: they kept going that direction. I thought to a couple 37 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: of key turning points in this one for the offense. 38 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: I thought, when Christian Watson drew that past interference penalty 39 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: thirty eight yards, Packers were down at at that point 40 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: in the game nineteen to ten I believe was the score. 41 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: That thirty eight yard pass interference penalty then set up 42 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: the twenty one yard touchdown run by A. J. Dillon. 43 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: Suddenly it felt like a brand new game at that point. 44 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: And then on the defensive side, you mentioned Alexander had 45 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: gotten burned for a couple of big plays. The Packers 46 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: also early in the game got burned for a big 47 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: play when Justin Fields ran for a fifty five yard touchdown. Packers, 48 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: they they're giving up too many big plays still, But 49 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: I thought the turning point was the response to the 50 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: big catch by n Kiel Harry down the sideline, which 51 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: was the second time that Alexander had gotten beat deep. 52 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: The defense rose up three plays to force a field goal, 53 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: and then on top of that, Dean Lowry blocks field 54 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: goal to keep the score nineteen to seventeen. There, We've 55 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: seen so many times over the course of the season, 56 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: when the Packers defense has given up a big play, 57 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: it hasn't responded to that well, to that very well, 58 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: and it has almost always led to points and often 59 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: touchdowns for the opponent. That sequence right there, I thought 60 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: was was a big step forward in in winning this 61 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: game and completing a comeback that was actually thirteen points 62 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: in the first half when the Packers were down sixteen 63 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: to three. Yeah, They've had some monumental comebacks here. When 64 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: you look at I think last month with the Cowboys, 65 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: that was the first time the Cowboys had lost the 66 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: game in the fourth quarter where they've been up, I 67 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: think they're like a hundred fifty and oh by fourteen 68 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: points where they've had that type of lead. The Packers 69 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: came back from it, same thing, and this one, I 70 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: mean there never that's I think the largest comeback the 71 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: Packers have had at Soldier Field against the Bears. So 72 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: it speaks to the mental toughness of that team. But 73 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: you wrote about it in your Monday Morning Insider inbox. 74 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: You know, Dean Lowry is really the unsung hero of 75 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: this game one. You know, we could talk about the 76 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: block field goal here in a minute, but Kenny Clark 77 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: was the one to point this out in the postgame 78 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: locker room. I thought it was worth mentioning because so 79 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: many eyes were on Equinomius st Brown catching that fifty 80 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: six yard against Jerr Alexander. But on that play, seconds 81 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: milliseconds before Fields throws a ball, Dean Lowry lays him out, 82 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: gets a really nice hit on him. And after that 83 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: first quarter where they gave up seventy one rushing yards 84 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: to Justin Fields. Luke getsy Fields. They were not running 85 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: him anymore after that. They asked him to be more 86 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: of a pocket type quarterback. That allowed the Packers to 87 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: hone in a little bit on David Montgomery and other 88 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: than that explosive in the second half to Harry Really, 89 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: I thought that for the most part, the defense played 90 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: really well. Getting back to that field goal, though, my goodness, 91 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: if the Bears get points there, if they go up 92 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: by five at that point, Green Bay Packers, they're not 93 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: in a position that in Mason Crosby thirty two yard 94 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: or is gonna put down. Then you know, the Packers 95 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: get into scoring territory, they're gonna go for it. You're 96 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: not gonna kick a field goal at that stage if 97 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: you're down by points. And in terms of the Packers 98 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: needing to find some type of answer, needing a phase 99 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: like special teams to really pick them up, uh, it 100 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,679 Speaker 1: was incredibly required. Because yes, you had the force fumble 101 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 1: early on from Mussul Douglas, you had it recovered by 102 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: Rudy Ford. The Packers weren't able to get points off 103 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: of that drive. At the end of that game, Green 104 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: Bay when I talked about complimentary football, not only did 105 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,239 Speaker 1: they create takeaways, not only did they make big plays 106 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: and phases where you're not necessarily going into a game 107 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: expecting a Dean Lowery block. It's what the Packers did 108 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: after those plays. It has been the kind of rabbit 109 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: they've been chasing all season, and from that regard, I 110 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: thought that was probably the most encouraging thing about this performance. 111 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: The Packers at four and eight going into this game, 112 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: really looking up at a lot of different teams here. 113 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: They could have packed it in going into that the 114 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: end of that third quarter, and instead they came together. Yeah. 115 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: Well in a big moment obviously at the end of 116 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: the first half as well, with the Packers getting into 117 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: scoring position. Score is sixteen to three. It's fourth and 118 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: four from Chicago's fourteen yard line. I'll be honest, West, 119 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: and I said it in the live blog. I'm kicking 120 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: the field goal there. It's still the first half, sixteen 121 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: to six. Just go in at halftime down by ten. 122 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: You got plenty of time to come back against this 123 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: Bears defense. Matt Floor was having none of it. He's 124 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: like he felt like the Packers are gonna have to 125 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: score a lot of points to win this game. Settling 126 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: for a field goal there, he didn't like it. He 127 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: went for the touchdown. Gutsy bold call and a little 128 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: bit of a scramble drill, and guests, who's on the 129 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: same page with Aaron Rodgers on a scrambled drill there 130 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: the rookie second round pick Christian Watson a fourteen yard touchdown. 131 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: Huge risk there, because if you don't get the touchdown 132 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: and you going at halftime down sixteen to three, you're 133 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: really not feeling good about this game. But that was 134 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: such a huge lift for the Packers. I know when 135 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: we're at the games, you know, we don't get to 136 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: go into the locker room at halftime, but I can 137 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: only imagine there was a certain amount of energy in 138 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: that locker room at halftime, even though the Packers were 139 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: down by six. It it felt different even at that point. Well, 140 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: and to add a little bit more context to to 141 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: to your comment about kicking the field goal, why that 142 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: also would have seemed possibly like a prudent decision. They 143 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: just lost a yard with Aaron Jones the play before 144 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: that when they tried to run it. My guess is 145 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: when they ran the ball, they're thinking okay, well, we'll 146 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: either get the first down or we'll get close to it. 147 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: Then we're in another position. At fourth and four. You 148 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:28,679 Speaker 1: basically have to pass the football. And for Christian Watson, 149 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: you know, we hear the term plaster you know, we 150 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: talk about defensive backs extended plays. The counter to that 151 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: is you have to plaster on your man. Christian Watson, 152 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: with his size and his speed. That is not an 153 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: easy assignment for anybody. And when the Packers are sending 154 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: him on these deep crossers. I wrote about it last week, Mike, 155 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: it is the ultimate weapon right now for this offense 156 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: because it's not just your typical slam, it's not typically 157 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: your drag round. It is him taking that thing up field. 158 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: And once again, is he's catching those balls, getting more confidence, 159 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: more and more dangerous. The rookie becomes yeah, well, and 160 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: you mentioned earlier to Dean Lowry, you know, kind of 161 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: the unsung hero with with the block field goal. Other 162 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: unsung heroes in this game, Zach Tom the rookie steps 163 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: in at left tackle for David Baktieri, who um had 164 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: an emergency appendectomy on Friday. Um, I know a little 165 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: something about that, by the way, Um, But um so 166 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: Bat couldn't play this time, unlike the Washington game, which 167 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: the Packers made the decision to go with Tom at 168 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: left tackle right before the game because Bat's knee wasn't 169 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: feeling well. At least Tom got one day of you know, 170 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: full day of practice on Friday as the number one 171 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: left tackle, was able to prepare mentally and everything else 172 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: that goes into getting ready for the game. The Bears 173 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: don't have the best pass rush. You know, Robert Quinn 174 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: was traded, Rokuan Smith was traded, Jack Sandborn, you know, 175 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: the the undrafted linebacker round Wisconsin. He's going to be 176 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: a terrific player. He already is a player. But in 177 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: terms of the front four for the Bears in the 178 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: pass rush get after the quarterback, they weren't able to 179 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: do a whole lot of it. Um Zach, Tom really 180 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: really held up well. It was the type of performance 181 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: from the offensive line that that the Packers certainly needed 182 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers dealing with the with the sore ribs 183 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: and everything. So shout out to Tom there. We'll see 184 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: you know exactly if for when David Bactieri might be 185 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: able to come back. Um, you know, it's very uncertain 186 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: at this point recovering from an emergency surgery like that. 187 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 1: And then the other thing you have to point out 188 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: to Sammy Watkins, things haven't gone as well as anybody 189 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: would have hoped for. Watkins coming in as a free 190 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: agent and you know, being a veteran presence and hoping 191 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: to you know, ease this transition to the to the 192 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 1: post Davante Adams receiving corps. But Sammy Watkins through two 193 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: really really crucial blocks in this game. One on a J. 194 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: Dillon's touchdown run which was off of faking the jet 195 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: sweep and Dylan going the other way, and then on 196 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: the forty six yard jet sweep run by Christian Watson 197 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: to seal the game, Sammy Watkins throws really the only 198 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: block that that Watson needed because nobody else for the 199 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: Bears was anywhere close to him. The whole side of 200 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: the field was wide open um and uh so wanted 201 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 1: to wanted to shout out Sammy Watkins as well. It's 202 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: pretty cool to see him throw the block and uh 203 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: and put the number one the fist up in the 204 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: air right away after that, because he knew as well 205 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: as anybody else who was in that stadium that that 206 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: was a touchdown as soon as that block was thrown. Yeah, 207 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: that was my favorite takeaway is that that image of 208 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: Christian Watson, you know, extending down the field and and 209 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 1: you see you know, Watkins in the background there, uh, celebrating. 210 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: I also got to give a shout out to Sammy 211 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: Watkins because on Friday, Mike, you might have remembered this 212 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: back when you were uh, you know, having some younger 213 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: kids around the household. It was the Packers holiday family 214 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: Christmas party and uh, my son, You've had a chance 215 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: that I think meet him now a couple of times. 216 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: He Uh, he's the most extroverted little four year old 217 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: you've ever met. And uh we were at the crafts 218 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: table while we were waiting to meet Santa Claus and 219 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: Sammy and his family came up and his daughter's beautiful 220 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: young family. You know, they were at the crafts table. Well, 221 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 1: my son because again being the most extroverted probably person 222 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: in the entire family, uh, quickly made friends with Sammy, 223 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: was trying to share pens with him and everything. And 224 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 1: kudos to Sammy, a true pro handled that very well, 225 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: was very nice with my son, and to see him 226 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: succeed in that way. I mean the Packers this season, Mike. 227 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: They went into the year talking about when it comes 228 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: to blocking receivers, Alan Lazard and Sammy Watkins are two 229 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 1: of the best in the business. And to see that 230 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 1: area of the game come through for them, because it 231 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: wasn't just that play for Watson. Over in the other 232 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: side of the locker room, A J. Dillon talked about 233 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: his touchdown run. Watkins was blocking on that as well, 234 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: helping kind of a crackback not crackback block, but sort 235 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: of the seal block with Zach Tom to spring Dylan 236 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: to the end zone. The Packers have been so good 237 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: at that. When we talked earlier this season about running 238 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: the football, it wasn't just well they can't throw it, 239 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: they have to run it. It was how they built 240 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: the offense to run the football. And this game, especially 241 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: with Aaron Jones and my goodness that the next time 242 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: the Packers play a Soldier field, I I might just 243 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: have Aaron is a healthy scratch. It's just there's something 244 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: about that field where he just always seems to have 245 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: some type of thing that pops up. But when they 246 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: when they went to A J. Dillon in this game, 247 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: Dylan responded the right way, and I loved Aaron's quote 248 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: afterwards about it, when he's asked about being you know, 249 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: Dylan kind of taking the lead at the backfield, he said, Hey, 250 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: when a dog is being a dog, you gotta let 251 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 1: the dog be the dog. And and and certainly Dylan, 252 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: you could tell how much that meant to him. This newly, 253 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 1: as we found out expected father Um being able to 254 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: do that little celebration as well with the rock and 255 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: the baby, So positive signs all around. Unfortunately for the Packers, 256 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: as we know, Mike, they've dug themselves into a little 257 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 1: bit of this hole. But I thought the way that 258 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: they back when they could have easily folded Um definitely 259 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: spoke volumes about this football team. Yeah, and for those 260 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: who like to dig into the film clips and stuff, 261 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: a little bit of self promotion here the Christian Watson 262 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 1: jet sweep forty six yard touchdown on the fourth quarter. 263 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: I went through the game film my what you might 264 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: have missed. It's up on Packers dot com. You can 265 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: go through all the clips. It was the eighth time 266 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: in the game that the Packers ran Watson in motion 267 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: all the way across the formation, and the first seven 268 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: they ran all kinds of other plays. There were pitches 269 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: this way, pitches that way, play action, passed, straight, drop 270 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: back past, all kinds of stuff. Of course, the first 271 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: seven times Watson did not get the ball. The eighth 272 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: time he did. If you go and look at the 273 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: plays six, I would say five of the first seven 274 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: were very successful plays anyway, and then obviously the big 275 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: the kill shot at the end with Watson. So it's 276 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: fun film to go through. It's it's cool to look at, 277 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: so be sure to check that out. And if I 278 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: may be sure to check that out, it's great, great 279 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: stuff from Michael. But you know the thing about Soldier 280 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: Field is we are in a corner of the end 281 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: zone over there, and there aren't always great imagery of 282 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: the on field action that play and also the touchdown 283 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: pass both actually where we had great vantage points on. 284 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: What was so astonishing about that is you could see 285 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: Chicago try to react to what Green Bay was doing 286 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: and they bit hard on the run. But I also 287 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: bit hard on the run. And it wasn't until Christian 288 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: Watson is steps away from the sideline did I realize 289 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: he had the football. And at that point, Mike, you 290 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: watched the film you broke it down. There's a few 291 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: people even standing close to him the rest of the way. 292 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the interesting about him. There's nobody close 293 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: to him when you when you watch it, it's when 294 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: you watch it, it's pretty remarkable. And you see, you know, 295 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: and the A J. Dillon touchdown round that we've been 296 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: talking about, that was another one to where where Watson 297 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: is on the jet sweeping that Uh. You know, that 298 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: action pulls a couple of guys, you know, makes it 299 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: just even if the guys don't move necessarily, but it 300 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: can make them hesitate. It's to you know, to their 301 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: reaction to where the ball is actually going. And and uh, 302 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: that hesitation allowed A. J. Dillon to get through there 303 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: with those good blocks by Tom and Watkins to to 304 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: create that lane. So um, it's a it's really it's 305 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: really fun film to watch. It was. It was a 306 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: good one to go through packers now five and eight. 307 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: Obviously the idea is to try to win out, to 308 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: try to get above five hundred. You see where other 309 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: things fall and uh, and we can talk about some 310 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: of those other results here coming up in a minute. West, 311 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: but uh, I will take care of the sponsor business 312 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: serious x M. 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That 322 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: could be very interesting here if the Packers do get 323 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: on a run. I don't want to get into it 324 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: too much yet, but if the Packers get on a run, 325 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about that. That Giants and Commanders tie. 326 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: The Vikings pull out another close one, holding off the 327 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: Jets at the goal line a couple of times down 328 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: the stretch. Minnesota gets a win. They're holding off a 329 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: big Jets come back. A couple of questions I want 330 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: to ask you. The forty Niners get a big win 331 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: over the Miami Dolphins, but they lose Jimmy Garoppolo. They 332 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: are now down to Brock Purty as a third string 333 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: quarterback to try to lead what I think is a 334 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: really really good forty Niners team. Um, where do you 335 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: see things going for the forty Niners from year? And 336 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: then my other question for you is do the Cincinnati 337 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: Bengals somehow have the Kansas City Chiefs number? They've beating 338 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 1: him three times in a row? Now, who's beating Patrick 339 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,239 Speaker 1: Mahomes three times in a row? Yeah? I don't know. 340 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow has like right look out, I mean wow? Yeah. 341 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: First and foremost, Um, brock Purty did everything he needed 342 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: to do to manage that football game once he went in, 343 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: and he's not going to get help. He's the man now. Uh. 344 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: My biggest takeaway from that game, though, it isn't gonna 345 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: be about brock Purty. I think San Francisco's playoff hopes 346 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: is going to go back to the guy that they 347 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: sort of wagered their season on, which is Christian McCaffrey. 348 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: McCaffrey is a versatile, dynamic playmaker, but he hasn't been 349 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: the same running back out of the backfield this season. 350 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: They're gonna need more from him in that area and 351 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,479 Speaker 1: It's going to be key to their hopes because if 352 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: you don't have your number two or number three quarterback, 353 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: what did the Packers learn, you know back in two 354 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: thousand thirteen, you better have a really good running back 355 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: and you better have a really good offensive line. That's 356 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: where San Francisco's hopes and fortunes are going to lie. 357 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: As far as the rest of this week kind of 358 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: shuffled out, um, I thought New York and Washington tying 359 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: was just the perfect sort of um culmination of just 360 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: what that division has been this year and just the 361 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: the insanity of it all, I mean, um, and from 362 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: Washington's perspective, that tie really hurt them and that they 363 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: fell behind Seattle. Now because of Seattle's come back over 364 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 1: the Rams. Seattle now is that number seven seed in 365 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: this playoffs hunt. So I really tying it into where 366 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: the Packers are at if I may really quickly Brian 367 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: Goodkin's talk to the media on Monday, as did Matt Lafleur, 368 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 1: and Packers have four games to go and the only 369 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 1: thing they can worry about is winning, but seeing how 370 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: the East shuffles out, seeing about whether or not San 371 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: Francisco can weather Garoppolo's you know absence and you know 372 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: can seattle rally for all of its flaws around Gino Smith. Uh, 373 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: this is such an intriguingly high stakes here in the NFC, Mike, 374 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: because I I've said it once, I've said it a 375 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: million times. I think any of these seven teams that 376 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: make the playoffs have a chance. The Detroit Lions this week, Mike, 377 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: going into this upcoming week, are actually favored right now 378 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: over the Minnesota Vikings, the number two seed um as 379 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: that game will be played at at Ford Field, so 380 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: they're obviously getting the home advantage. But the fact that 381 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: that's even our consideration right now, with the Lions being 382 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: on the outside looking in with Green Bay, I think 383 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: speaks volumes about how this this conference and and things 384 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: have shuffled out. Yeah, well this weekend, that that Lions 385 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: game at Ford Field in Detroit against Minnesota. I mean, 386 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: for right now, you call that the biggest game of 387 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: the Dan Campbell era to this point, right, I mean, 388 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: because really for the for the Lions, it's it's are 389 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: they going to stay in the playoff race down the 390 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: stretch and give themselves a chance and put people on 391 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: notice potentially by beating a two lost Minnesota team that 392 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: has that's won so many clothe schemes here along the way, 393 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: or are the Lions not quite there yet? And uh 394 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 1: and and they're going to They're going to fade down 395 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: the stretch. There's a lot of a lot of excitement. 396 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: They were fired up in Detroit for that Thanksgiving game 397 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: against Buffalo and they took a really good Buffalo Bills 398 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: team all the way to the wire before losing. I 399 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: think that game on I think that game on Sunday 400 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: against the Vikings is gonna be a full sixty minute 401 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: battle against against Dan Campbell's boys there. And oh, I'm sorry, 402 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, and for all the random games 403 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 1: that the Vikings have won this season, this would be 404 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: a good time for Minnesota to finally, you know, pull 405 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: a rabbit out of its hat that actually benefits the Packers. 406 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: That's gonna be the other thing too. I mean their 407 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: ten and two and they've won all these one score games, 408 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: They've had all these type of weird comebacks, and it's like, okay, 409 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: well now this week, go into Ford Field and actually 410 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: take care of business. Yeah, one other thing I want 411 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: to ask you before we go, Um, the Las Vegas Raiders. 412 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: They have suddenly gone from two and seven to five 413 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: and seven with two overtime victories and then another down 414 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: to the wire victory over a division rival in the Chargers. 415 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 1: Davante Adams is absolutely going off statistically. His numbers are 416 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: are are going off the charts. Are the Raiders just 417 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: maybe put you know, putting some teams on notice in 418 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: the a f C that that just like last year 419 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: when Rich Pisaccio was their interim coach down the stretch 420 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: and they made a run for a playoffs s part. 421 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 1: Are the Raiders doing this again? Yeah? I don't know 422 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 1: if this one is about the win one for the McDaniels, 423 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: but it was that line that came out during the 424 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: heart of their their dull drums about you know, potentially 425 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,719 Speaker 1: could Derek Carr be cut at the end of the season. 426 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: Are there, you know, considerations are gonna have to make. 427 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: Davontae Adams knows what he's saying, and he knows how 428 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: to play football, And I really thought, you know, him 429 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: reiterating again that I'm here because of Derek Carr, speaks 430 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: volumes about you know, the motivation and the feelings that 431 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: those two guys you know, have for each other in 432 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: mutual respect. There. Um, they don't want this to be 433 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 1: a one and done type arrangement. They wanted this to 434 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: be something that propels you know, Davante do a potentially 435 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame career and hopefully, in the Raider's sake, 436 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 1: a super Bowl type run. That has not happened this season, 437 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: but they did pull themselves back into it. The challenge 438 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: for the Raiders, though, is going to be I honestly 439 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: believe the talent element of this. They have some good 440 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 1: offensive skill position players. They have you know, Max Crosby 441 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: on defense, but Chandler Jones, you know, largely underperformed this 442 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: season and there's been a dearth of depth at other positions. 443 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: So um, but in the game of you know, looking 444 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: at the a f C, you know, the Jets right 445 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: now are sitting at seven and there seven and five, 446 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: the Raiders are five and seven. Um, there's plenty of 447 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 1: teams still looking to get through the back door in 448 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: that conference. Yeah, I think it's uh, it's gonna be 449 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 1: fascinating down the stretch and uh in both conferences. And hey, 450 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 1: if the Packers can can keep winning and winning and 451 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 1: uh and stringing some some victories together. It could get 452 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: even more interesting here in Green Bay. Hey, I'm gonna 453 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: put you on the spot too, how old old Tom 454 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: Brady b when he retires? Uh? Is there a five? 455 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: Does it start with a five? Yeah? No, I don't 456 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: think it starts with a five? But I mean how 457 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: how long? I mean, was it wasn't George Blanda still 458 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: kicking field goals at like something like yeah, I mean 459 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: who knows, right? I mean, boy, um, pretty pretty remarkable though. 460 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: I actually didn't realize until seeing the statistics after the 461 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: game that the only time in his career previously that 462 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: Tom Brady had come back from thirteen or more down 463 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter was the Super Bowl against the 464 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: Falcons when they had when they had that really big deficit. 465 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 1: So um, He's obviously pulled up plenty of comebacks that 466 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 1: were fewer than thirteen points, but um, but that one, 467 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 1: and boy, what a um what a kick in the 468 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: gut of the New Orleans Saints to play the way 469 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: they did on the road, you know, prime time added 470 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: division rival for fifty five minutes and then and then 471 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 1: to have it to have it just unraveled like that 472 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. Um just a just 473 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: a tough one there. Um. And and I think I 474 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 1: think Dennis Allen after the game said, you know, it stinks, 475 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: it sucks. It's this, it's that. I mean, what else 476 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: is he gonna say? Right? I mean that was that 477 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: was a gut punch because as much of a train 478 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 1: wreck as this, you know, see the Saints offense has 479 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: been this year, and the litany of injuries they've had defensively, 480 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: that's been their calling card into to lose that game, 481 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: uh five minutes to go and to see that kind 482 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: of comeback, that's that's incredibly demoralizing in a division where 483 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: if you win that thing, you're a half game, your 484 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: game out or whatever it is. I mean, if if 485 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 1: the Saint the Saints are looking like, hey, they're gonna 486 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: win a big division game on the road, and they'll 487 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: they'll be they'll be five and eight and right in 488 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 1: the thick of the division hunt because of because of 489 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: what they would have just done to the Buck in years. 490 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: I mean that that the way that game flipped in 491 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: the last five minutes um huge implications for that, for that, 492 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: for that entire division, the Saints. The Saints could have, 493 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: The Saints could have kept that whole division in the 494 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 1: division race essentially if they had, if they had hung 495 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: onto that one. But um, but yeah, the Buccaneers, the 496 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: Buccaneers pull it out. It certainly looks like Tampa Bay 497 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 1: will be back in the playoffs and they will get 498 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 1: a home game as a as a division champ against uh, 499 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: you know, most likely the whoever the number five seed is, 500 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: which would be the top wild card. So we could 501 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: end up you know, I mean, if you looked at 502 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: it right now, the top wild card would be the 503 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, right, so you'd have Tom Brady against Mike 504 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: McCarthy in the first round of the playoffs. But um, 505 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: but anyway, we could spend the rest of the day 506 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: talking about all of those scenarios, but we will let 507 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: our producers go so they can put the final cut 508 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: on this show and UH and get it get it 509 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: out to the masses. So with that, we'll call it 510 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 1: a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscript. You'd be 511 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: sure to follow all of our coverage of the team 512 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: through the bye week into next week leading up to 513 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: Monday Night football against the Rams. We will have it 514 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 1: all for you on Packers dot Com for wes I 515 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: am Mike, thank you for tuning in. Everybody, We'll see 516 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: you next time.