1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Congressman, is we put out cybersecurity advisories on a whole 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: host of systems on. 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: The signal on the Signal app that was included in 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 2: that advisory. 5 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 3: Right. 6 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: What we've done is we've put out an advisory on 7 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: how to use this signal app and other encrypted applications 8 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 1: because we do encourage our employees and their families to 9 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: use it. 10 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: Because there's risk to that app, there are. Okay, General 11 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: Cruz DoD also issued a warning about vulnerabilities to the 12 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 2: Signal app recently. Correct. That's correct. Okay, Director Gabbard, you 13 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: were on this signal text chain in question. 14 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 4: Correct? 15 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 2: Yes, as was mister Whitcoff, the administration's lead negotiator with 16 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 2: the Russians. 17 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 4: Correct. 18 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: Yes, And at the time mister Whitcoff was actually in 19 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,279 Speaker 2: Russia during this chat discussion, Was he not? 20 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 5: I was not aware of that. 21 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: Was he on his personal phone at the time? I 22 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: don't know what's my understanding that he was indeed in Russia. 23 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: Director gabberd you were also traveling during this discussion, correct? 24 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 6: Yes? 25 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: And where were you? 26 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 5: I was traveling through the Asia Pacific region. I don't 27 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 5: recall which country I was in at that time. 28 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 2: You don't remember the country. 29 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 5: I'd have to go back and look at the schedule. 30 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: Director Gabbard, I want to direct your attention again to 31 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: the text chain where it says just confirmed with syncome 32 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: we are a go for mission launch. Does that indicate 33 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: to you that there is about to be a military operation? Yes, 34 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: Director Gabbard. Earlier in this hearing, we heard about the 35 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: DODS classification standards. I want to now turn my attention 36 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: to your classification standards. You're the Director of National Intelligence. 37 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,919 Speaker 2: The Office of the Director of National Intelligence classification guide says, 38 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: quote in animation, providing indication or advance warning that the 39 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: US or its allies are preparing for an attack end 40 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: quote is to be classified as top secret. Are you 41 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 2: familiar with that? Yes, Director Gabbard. Have the Huthies indicated 42 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 2: an ability to shoot down American aircraft? 43 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 5: Yes? 44 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: They have in fact done so, haven't they, Yes, including 45 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: MQ nine reapers, haven't they. That's correct, and that was 46 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 2: one of the systems used in the attack recently. That's 47 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 2: the subject to this discussion. Is it not correct? General Cruz, 48 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 2: are you familiar with this system? 49 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 3: Oh? 50 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 7: I'm not worrying my glasses at the moment. 51 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 2: We I'll help you out. This is an essay three 52 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: anti aircraft system. 53 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 6: Correct? 54 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 2: Are you familiar with this? Next system? 55 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 8: I am? 56 00:02:53,960 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 2: What is it to have to ask you? It's an 57 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 2: essay six. 58 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 8: I'm going to guess that. 59 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 2: This is also an advanced anti aircraft system, is it not? 60 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 8: It is? 61 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 4: It was used widely in the Bulkans in the nineties. 62 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 6: Correct. 63 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: And the whois also have this system, don't they? They 64 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 2: certainly do, and they've employed it against our aircraft, have 65 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 2: they not? 66 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 4: They've attempted to do. 67 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 8: Correct. 68 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: I spent my life in service to this country. I 69 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: deployed three times to combat in service to this nation. 70 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: I learned in that time and service that responsibility is 71 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: core to leadership. You accept responsibility when things go wrong, 72 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: you admit mistakes, You set the standard from the very top. 73 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: It is completely outrageous to me, completely outrageous to me. 74 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: The administration officials come before us today with impunity, no 75 00:03:55,480 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: acceptance of responsibility, Excuse after excuse after excuse. Well, we 76 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: send our men and women downrange to do incredibly difficult, 77 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: incredibly dangerous things on our behalf, and yet nobody is 78 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: willing to come to us and say this was wrong, 79 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: This was a breach of security, and we won't do 80 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: it again. It is outrageous and it is a leader failure. 81 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: And that's why Secretary Hegseth, who undoubtedly transmitted classified, sensitive 82 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: operational information via this chain, must resign immediately. There can 83 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 2: be no fixes, there can be no corrections, and tell 84 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: there is accountability, and I'm calling on the administration to 85 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 2: move forward with accountability. 86 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 9: I you back, gentlemen, Yields, gentlemen from Texas, Mister mister Greenshaw. 87 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 10: Think, miss chairman, thank you all for being here. Good 88 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 10: to see many of you again, and thank you for 89 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 10: thank you for enduring two long days. I will note 90 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 10: I always use fire remode. She's when I see terrorists 91 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 10: getting killed. I want to talk about cartels. This is 92 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 10: a subject that is near and dear to my heart, 93 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 10: investigating it thoroughly for the last couple of years, and 94 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 10: I'm glad to see that it's mentioned in all of 95 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 10: your opening statements and mentioned we're going to shift back. 96 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 11: We're going to shift back to the adoe sharing. Crockett 97 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 11: of Texas is up. 98 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 4: Let's hear her ms Krger, what about you? 99 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 6: I agree. 100 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 12: I think it's important for us to report on the 101 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 12: important news of the day. 102 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 13: So let's talk about the critical role of public media. 103 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 13: During his first term, President Trump's own Department of Homeland 104 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:43,799 Speaker 13: Security highlighted the importance of public broadcasting's role in public safety. 105 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 13: In twenty eighteen, his administration stated quote, PBS and local 106 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 13: public television stations play a crucial role in protecting communities 107 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 13: by delivering essential information to individuals and first responders. These 108 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 13: benefits are all made possible by public broadcasts stations unique reach, reliability, 109 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 13: and roll across America, and are especially vital in rural 110 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 13: and underserved areas. Madam Chairwoman, I would ask unanimous consent. 111 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 13: I seek unanimous consent to enters into the record the 112 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 13: twenty eight without Objection so ordered, And Madam chair I 113 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 13: also seek unanimous consent to enter into the record the 114 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 13: twenty nineteen report title modernizing the Nation's Public Alert and 115 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 13: Warning System from Trump's. 116 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,239 Speaker 4: Without Objection so ordered. 117 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 13: In the report, FEMA encouraged quote the use of public 118 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 13: broadcast capabilities to expand alert, warning and communication capabilities to 119 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 13: fill gaps and rule in underserved areas. Mister Olman, what's 120 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 13: a more significant domestic threat? 121 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 4: Reporting the murder of. 122 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 13: George Floyd or dismantling most of America's emergency communication systems. 123 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 8: Can you please repeat the question for me in Congressman. 124 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 13: Which one is more of a threat reporting the murder 125 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 13: of George Floyd or dismantling most of America's emergency communication systems. 126 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: Dismantling the emergency systems? 127 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 13: And isn't it true that in Borrow, Alaska is the 128 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 13: only I'm sorry? And isn't it true that kb RWAM 129 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 13: and Borrow Alaska is the only broadcast service available in 130 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 13: an area of more than ninety thousand square miles? 131 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 7: That is correct. 132 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: It's also the North Slope where the majority of all 133 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 2: the oil production that comes from Alaska takes place. 134 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. 135 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 13: And isn't it true that without these stations broadcast, Americans 136 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 13: in rural communities would lack access to life saving information. 137 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 4: In public safety alerts? 138 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 8: That is correct? 139 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 13: So, in your opinion, what eliminating funding for stations in 140 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 13: rural America like WNNGH Channel eighteen and the Chairwoman's District 141 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 13: hurt Americans? 142 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 8: It would hurt Americans. 143 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:48,679 Speaker 6: Yes. 144 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 13: In fact, Georgia Public Broadcasting serves as the official distributor 145 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 13: of evacuation route information during state ordered evacuations and the 146 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 13: chairwoman is here advocating to strip their funding. Look, the 147 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 13: DOJ agenda isn't about government efficiency. It's about breeding corruption 148 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 13: at the expense of the safety of the American people, 149 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 13: particularly Americans living in rule or remote parts. 150 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 4: Of the country. 151 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 13: They don't care about public safety, they don't care about 152 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 13: emergency management, and they don't care about free speech, all 153 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 13: of which are harming American people. 154 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 4: In fact, I'm a. 155 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 13: Skip off real quick because they have tried. 156 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 4: To come for you, miss Mayor, and I just want to. 157 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 13: Clarify you did not work for NPR when those statements. 158 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 4: Were made, did you. 159 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 6: That is correct me. 160 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 13: And to be clear, free speech is not about whatever 161 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 13: it is that y'all want somebody to say. And the 162 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 13: idea that you want to shut down everybody that is not. 163 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 4: Fox News is bullshit. 164 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 13: We need to stop playing because that's what y'all are 165 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 13: doing in here. You don't want to hear the opinions 166 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 13: of anybody else. And the Constitution says Congress shall make 167 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 13: no law respecting or establishing of religion, or prohibiting the 168 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 13: free exercise thereof, or abridging the General. 169 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 14: Woman's time has expired, Press the general woman's time fired. 170 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 8: Madam, sure put them into the record, you know, misconsent. 171 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 4: Please without objection, so ordered, Thank you. 172 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 2: I'd like to put under the pure article what Biden 173 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 2: preemptive pardons for family members couldn't mean for presidential powers? 174 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 14: If I could sit without objection, so ordered, I now 175 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 14: recognize the gentleman from Ohio, Jim Jordan for five minutes. 176 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 7: Thank you, Edam chair ms maher who is Uri Berliner? 177 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 6: Mister Berlinner is a former senior editor, that's all, a 178 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 6: former senior business editor. Fri ENDPR. 179 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 7: How long you work at MPR? 180 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 6: I believe he was there just over twenty five years. 181 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 7: Twenty five years. Award winning journalists? Do you win any awards? 182 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 7: Are time to get everybody award? That's pretty important, isn't it? 183 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 7: That is so pretty distinguished journalists? Right certainly? And I wrote, 184 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 7: he wrote a long story about what you do at 185 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 7: MPR is MPR. 186 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 6: Biased, Congressman. I have never seen any instance of never 187 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 6: of pro political bias determining editorial decisions. 188 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 7: Now, well, miss mister Berliner in his story. A couple 189 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 7: last year wrote, I've in the DC area editorial positions 190 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 7: at MPR. He said, he found eighty seven registered Democrats, 191 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 7: zero Republicans. Is that accurate? 192 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 6: We do not track the numbers or the voter registration. 193 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 6: But I find that he was. 194 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 7: Award winning journalists who worked twenty five years at MPR. 195 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 7: Mister Berlinner, was he lying when he wrote. 196 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 6: That, I am not presuming such. I just don't have 197 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 6: We don't track that information about our journal eighty seven 198 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 6: to zero, and you're not biased? I think that is concerning. 199 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 6: If those numbers are accurate. 200 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 7: It's concerned. I mean, it wasn't forty four, forty three, 201 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 7: wasn't sixty twenty seven, It wasn't seventy seventeen, It wasn't 202 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 7: even eighty to seven. It was eighty seven Democrats, zero Republicans. 203 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 7: And you say MPR is not biased? How about the 204 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 7: big stories over the last few years? According to mister 205 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 7: Berliner again, he wrote on the Trump Russia story, he wrote, 206 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 7: at NPR, we hitched our wagon to Trump's most visible antagonists, 207 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 7: representative Adam Shift. They said the interview him twenty five times. 208 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 3: That accurate. 209 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 6: I was not there at the time, but those numbers 210 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 6: sound accurate. 211 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 7: Those sound accurate. But then he said, when the Muller 212 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 7: report came out, and they said Mueller said, Robert Mueller 213 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 7: said he found no evidence of collusion. He said, Russia 214 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 7: Gate faded from our programming. Is that accurate? 215 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 6: Again, I was not there at the time. I couldn't say. 216 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 7: You couldn't say. I was not at unpeer at the time. 217 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 7: I didn't prepare for that. You knew we were going 218 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 7: to ask you about this guy, didn't you. It's come 219 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 7: up like six thousand times already into hearing. 220 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 6: I just wouldn't say whether it faded from our coverage. 221 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 7: How about this story. October twenty twenty, New York Post 222 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 7: had the Hunter Biden laptop story, and one of those editors, 223 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 7: I guess one of those eighty seven Democrat editors, said this, 224 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 7: we don't want to waste our time on stories that 225 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 7: are not really stories. We don't want to waste the 226 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 7: listeners and readers' times on stories that are just pure distractions. 227 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 7: Without a pure distraction story, Our. 228 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 6: Current editorial leadership believes that that was a mistake, as 229 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 6: do I. 230 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, the whole country knows that was a mistake. Definitely 231 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 7: impacted the election, or I think it certainly impacted the election. 232 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 7: How about the COVID origin story? That's a pretty big 233 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 7: story too, right, mister Berliner said, we became fervent members 234 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 7: of the team Natural Origin, even declaring that the LAB 235 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 7: leak was debunked by scientists. Turns out, though the LAB 236 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 7: leak is what most people think actually caused the COVID virus. 237 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 6: Sorry, sorry, sir, A question there there is. 238 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 7: You guys were oh for three on the three, the 239 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 7: three the biggest stories in the last five years. You 240 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 7: guys were oh for three. And yet you maintain that 241 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 7: NPR is not biased. 242 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 6: A congressman, I do not believe we are politically biased. 243 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 6: To know we are a non partisan organization. 244 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 7: On partisan organization. What's happening to your listeners over the 245 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 7: last five years? When up down or stayed? To say? 246 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 6: It has gone up and down and is now going 247 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 6: back up? 248 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 7: Well, I thought five years ago was at sixty million, 249 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 7: and you said in your opening statement, I think forty 250 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 7: three million. That's correct, So forty three million now and 251 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 7: it was that sixty million five years ago. I can 252 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 7: do some math that looks like it. 253 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 6: Went down and is now going back up. 254 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 7: Is now going back up? 255 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 6: Yes it is? 256 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 7: How much? Is it went back up? 257 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 6: It's from up A couple of millions over the past. 258 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 7: So you went from sixty million to forty one million. 259 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 6: Now you're back up to forty three million in a 260 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 6: year's time. I'm very proud of that grosser. 261 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 7: Okay, you're proud of that that growth. Okay, but over 262 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 7: five years it's went down eighteen million, that is correct, sir. Okay. 263 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 7: Should taxpayer subsidize NPR? 264 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 6: I believe that taxpayers suld subsidized local stations, Sir. That 265 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 6: is the vast majority of what I thought. 266 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 7: You said. You got eleven million from Corporation Public Broadcasting, 267 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 7: which is taxpayer funded directly to you, right, that is 268 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 7: to support the public, and then local stations get it 269 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 7: from the Corporation of Public Broadcasting at right, they get 270 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 7: tax on hundred million that goes to the uttermingo's local stations, 271 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 7: and then those local stations buy back programming content from you, 272 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 7: so that money goes to local stations, comes back to you, 273 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 7: gets routed through the local stations. All taxpayer money. 274 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 6: Those fees are actually based on private donations rather than 275 00:13:58,679 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 6: on federal funding. 276 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 7: We all money's fungible, so some of it gets put 277 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 7: in there. 278 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,359 Speaker 6: Certainly we could we could agree that money is fungible. 279 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 7: What more money for less listeners? You fired the guy 280 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 7: who pointed all this out and said that you were 281 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 7: so biased to the left that you lost listeners, which 282 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 7: exactly happening, and you're here maintaining that, oh, you need, 283 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 7: you need to continue to get taxpayer money. 284 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 6: I did not fire mister berlin Er. 285 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 7: Sir, okay, the guy that that left after all that understanding, 286 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 7: understand are you fundraising off today's hearing? 287 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 6: Sir? I believe that there was a message that went 288 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 6: out earlier today letting people know we were coming in. Yes. 289 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, And at the bottom of the message it said 290 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 7: donate now. 291 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 6: Right. I don't recall the exact language. 292 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 7: Show it to you right there it is donate now. 293 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 7: I mean, I'm not against fundraising. We all do it. 294 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 7: I mean, I get it. But I assume this this, 295 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 7: this fundraising is probably going to all the left listeners 296 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 7: who are subsidized content by the taxpayers. 297 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 14: And that's the gentleman's time is that's the rub you back? 298 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 14: I now recognize miss Randall from Washington for five minut. 299 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. 300 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 15: You know, I I'm new to Congress. This is my 301 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 15: first term, and I came from a heaven legislative body. 302 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 11: That okay on border already, lady, get you got in 303 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 11: these hearings. You got to get cut to the chase. 304 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 11: Don't give me your backstory. We're gonna go back to 305 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 11: Intel in the second. I want to make sure we 306 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 11: highlight something for the audience, since the audience was name 307 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 11: checked by the ranking member. The ranking member, remember it 308 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 11: is always a senior member of the minority. This will 309 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 11: be the Democrats, Congressman Himes of Connecticut. 310 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 8: And he's a he's a he. 311 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 11: Is a player in Democratic circles, in particularly Intel. He 312 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 11: name checked this audience at the beginning because they fear 313 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 11: the warm and posse that understand the war and posse 314 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 11: can put their shoulder to the wheel and make things happen. 315 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 11: I want to make sure you get the bill blaster 316 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 11: app you get Article three. There's a lot going on today. 317 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 11: One thing is very evident. I'm going to go back 318 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 11: to the intelligence in a minute. That's very evident. Today 319 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 11: they are targeting Pete Hesath, they are targeting the Secretary Defense. 320 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 11: The Democrats have made a decision. It's not Waltz that's 321 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 11: the target they want to go after because they understand 322 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 11: how hard it is to get confirmed. They're going after 323 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 11: Pete Hexath. It's quite evident by Cashrow's questions, by other 324 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 11: questions they're being asked, by what they're putting up on 325 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 11: the charts of. 326 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 8: The text messages. 327 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 11: They're very much focused on Pete Hexath what he said, 328 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 11: and I think three of them are already called for 329 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 11: either Secretary of Defense Hexas resignation or to be fired. 330 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 11: The Armed Services Committee of the Senate, which is chaired 331 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 11: by Republicans, is talking about Wicker in his ranking member 332 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 11: Jack Reid, who was on Intelligence essay. Jack read is 333 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 11: no friend of the administration. They're talking about having an investigation, 334 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 11: and here he's quote unquote bipartisan Armed Services is basically. 335 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 8: The main committee in dealing with the Pentagon. 336 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 11: That's the Committee of Jurisdiction, is what's called in the 337 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 11: Congress Committee of Jurisdiction. If he's investigating that, the target 338 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 11: right now, I believe is Pete Hesath. And as you remember, 339 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 11: therefore it took for us to get Pete Heggsath confirmed. 340 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 8: Let's go to the Intelligence Committee. 341 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 11: Just heard PBS Jim Jordan laying a PBS outrageous that 342 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 11: American taxpayers underwrite a Marxist thing. 343 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 8: Let's go to the intelligence, back. 344 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 3: To the States of America, and if not, what should 345 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 3: we be doing about. 346 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 5: Thank you for your question, Congressman. I'm not fully aware 347 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,959 Speaker 5: and up to date on the specific example that you've mentioned, 348 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 5: and I'll go and look into that and to get back. 349 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 2: To you further. 350 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 5: Absolutely look forward to having the conversation with you. 351 00:17:59,440 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 4: Broadly. 352 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 5: This is obviously a concern that any of these activities 353 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 5: occurring near or around any of our military sites creates 354 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 5: that potential national security risk and the potential foreign intelligence collection. 355 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 3: I'm hoping it's a priority for everybody on the DAIS there. 356 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 3: It is a priority, I think for the American people, 357 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 3: certainly for me. I want to move on in the 358 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 3: time remaining with a related topic, which is the hundreds 359 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 3: of incidents by predominantly Chinese students, oftentimes called gate crashers. 360 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 3: So this includes the two gentlemen in uniform. 361 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 8: On the DAIS. 362 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 3: I'm going to kind of point to three events that 363 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 3: happened just last year. One in Grayling, Michigan, five Chinese 364 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 3: students are charged for lying and concealing evidence. One in 365 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 3: the University of Minnesota where drone flew over Newport News 366 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 3: and took pictures of classified information regarding ships and classified systems, 367 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 3: and one at the University of Florida regarding the illicit 368 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 3: acquisition and shipment of toxins, biomedical drugs and research supplies 369 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 3: to China. In these cases are most of these cases, 370 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 3: we encounter these people and then we release these people. 371 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 3: As a matter of fact that in the case of Florida, 372 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 3: apparently she found out that criminal charges were being prepared 373 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 3: and she dropped out of school and her whereabouts remain 374 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 3: unknown at this point, what should be our posture because 375 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 3: we're trying to follow up after the fact, we're encountering 376 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 3: these people, whether the gatecrashers or whether we catch them 377 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 3: conducting this illicit activity, we try and prosecute. That takes 378 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 3: a lot of man hours, as you know, Director Patel, is. 379 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 7: This the best policy? 380 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 3: Is there something better that we can do? I mean, 381 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 3: the Immigration National Act Nationality Act of nineteen fifty two 382 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 3: gives the Secretary of State the authority to revoke visas. 383 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 3: But should these people be allowed to come to this 384 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 3: country in the first first place? Is the question of 385 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 3: what should our factor be? 386 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:09,719 Speaker 16: Anybody in terms of the visa issue. I know that 387 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 16: the administration is working on a policy, but to directly 388 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 16: answer your question, anybody who utilizes the student visa program 389 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 16: to come to this country to conduct criminal activity should 390 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 16: never be allowed in this country, and anyone that's doing 391 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 16: it here in the United States of America, from an 392 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 16: FBI standpoint, will be vigorously investigated and will use the 393 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 16: expulsion or criminal process on them. 394 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 9: I yield, mister Jim Gentleman, yield Smith's plasket. 395 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 12: Thank you very much, mister Sherman, and good morning to 396 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 12: the witnesses. You know, first, let me say that we 397 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 12: do have to in this committee try as much as 398 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 12: possible to remain nonpartisan as opposed to bipartisan. I can 399 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 12: recall being that way when I was counsel on the 400 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 12: House Ethics Committee, and it's a really hard it's a 401 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 12: hard position to take. But I'm really struck by the 402 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 12: that in December of twenty twenty three, many people made 403 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 12: Secretary Lloyd Austin go through the stages of the cross 404 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 12: in self flagellation and Mia Culpas for not informing the 405 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 12: President that he was having a surgery. And now how 406 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 12: we're treating Secretary Hedgepeth as if. 407 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 4: He is untouchable. 408 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 12: Mike Waltz when he was a member of Congress went 409 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 12: in the Committee on Armed Services to talk of and 410 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,479 Speaker 12: slammed Austin for holding himself to a different standard than 411 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 12: the American people. And yet we are not doing this 412 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 12: across the board. And that's disappointing at the very least, 413 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 12: very disappointing. Director Gaber, thank you for your testimony. And 414 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 12: one of the things that I believe I heard you 415 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 12: say was that when there was a discussion by DOGE 416 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 12: as to the cuts to foreign aid, that there had 417 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 12: not been a request for a national for an intelligence 418 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 12: and national security or an intelligence assessment of the impact 419 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 12: of those cuts. Is that was at your testimony a little. 420 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 5: Earlier, Congresswoman. I have not seen any kind of actual 421 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 5: official assessment, either within the intelligence community or outside of it, 422 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 5: on what the effects of those cuts to US aid 423 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 5: programs has been. 424 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 12: But it was not requested by DOSEE, of you, or 425 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 12: of any of the areas in which you. 426 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 6: Have oversight over. I'm not aware of any, Kay, great, 427 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 6: thank you. 428 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 12: I know that there has been some open source reporting 429 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,959 Speaker 12: on what the effect of those cuts are. I mean, 430 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 12: when we think about several examples, Kenya, our strongest regional 431 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 12: ally in the Horn of Africa and a key partner 432 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 12: with US in the fight against terrorist group Al Shabab. 433 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 12: And you know, according to the Washington Post, that's not definitive, 434 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 12: and we can talk about this in closed session. Some 435 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 12: Kenyan journalists are now being trained by Beijing, mirroring the 436 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,719 Speaker 12: US programs that have been cut by the administration. Director 437 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 12: Gabber is letting China train Kenyan journalists going to make 438 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 12: Kenya more or less receptive to American requests of the 439 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 12: Kenyan government. 440 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 6: Do you believe. 441 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 5: As you said, Congressome and our relationship with Kenya has 442 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 5: been very long standing. 443 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 12: In so do cuts for oars to train journalists in 444 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 12: Kenya make them more or less and Beijing having that 445 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 12: moin them more or less? 446 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 5: Clearly there is strategic competition taking place. I'll withhold my 447 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 5: personal view to look at anfilm. 448 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 12: I was asking for your director of view, not your 449 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 12: personal view. And then additionally, we have ended Voice of America, 450 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 12: which provided accurate, unbiased news in our opinion. Meanwhile, at 451 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 12: Petersburg University has announced that it's open eleven Russian language 452 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 12: centers across Africa that pay special attention to the promotion 453 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 12: of traditional Russian spiritual and moral values. Director Gabber, Is 454 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 12: Russia a friend or a foe? Are they our friend 455 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 12: or our adversary? 456 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 6: They are an adversary, thank you. 457 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 12: I believe that this reckless cuts make terrorism and our 458 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 12: influence in Africa, which is on the front lines of terrorism, 459 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 12: a real threat to us, and we need to be 460 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 12: careful of it. 461 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 6: Director Patel. 462 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 12: One of the benefits of being here kind of in 463 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 12: the middle is I get to hear other people's testimony 464 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 12: and the questions that are asked. I know that mister 465 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 12: Carson asks you questions specifically about the counter Terrorism Division, 466 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 12: and we know that there has been some open source 467 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 12: reporting that says that individuals within that division have been 468 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 12: removed or been moved, not necessarily fired, but moved. 469 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 6: Do you know if that is correct. 470 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 16: I don't have any personal information on that, but people 471 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 16: within the CTD compose on it, which is a large 472 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 16: component the FBI move all the time. 473 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 6: And have they been moved? 474 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 12: Is are you able to get that information to us 475 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 12: whether they have or not been moved. 476 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 16: I'll go back to my team and see who has 477 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 16: been moved. If you have a particular interest we'll share 478 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 16: with you. 479 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 12: Of course, we have an interest in counter Terrorism Division 480 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 12: and movement of individuals within that because one of the 481 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 12: other things I'm concerned about is you have stated I 482 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 12: believe in other areas that the disbandment of certain sections 483 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 12: of the FBI related to intel and breaking up components. 484 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 12: Can you explain to us how you intend to do 485 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 12: that or what you would like to do and. 486 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 16: Why My intention is to reprioritize counter intelligence authorities and 487 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 16: cyber capabilities to focus on violent crime and national security. 488 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,959 Speaker 8: And that's what I'm doing. Generalman, this time has expired. 489 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 9: Thank you the general woman from Missouri, Madam Ambassador Ms Wigner, Hi, thank. 490 00:25:58,600 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 4: You, mister Chairman. 491 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 7: I think all of you for being here and for 492 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 7: your continued service to our Let's. 493 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 11: Go back to Let's go back to the PBS. 494 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 8: We get a minute, we got Tim Burchet. Let's hear 495 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 8: Birchet to. 496 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 14: The gentleman from California, mister Conna for five minutes. 497 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,479 Speaker 17: Thank you, Madam Charon, thank you for allowing me to 498 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 17: wave on to the committee. Mister Gonzalez. I read with 499 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 17: interest your testimony. It was so angry, so I thought 500 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 17: i'd try to lighten things up. 501 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 7: A little bit. 502 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 17: Who are three of your favorite characters on Daniel Tiger 503 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 17: or what episodes do you are your favorites? 504 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 8: Represent Conna. Thank you very much for the opportunity to 505 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 8: lighten up. 506 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 7: Again. 507 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 11: I think I'm taking a time machine here Sesame Street went. 508 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 17: To Daniel Tiger. Do you have some favorite characters? 509 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 11: Oh, the owl bro Conna, our favorite democrat populist. So 510 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 11: trying to lighten up. We're not looking to light enough today. 511 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 11: Let's go back to this. I tell you what, We've 512 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 11: got to take a break. We are going to take 513 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 11: a break here. 514 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 8: Right there. 515 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 11: You just saw it once again. That's the non voting 516 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 11: member from the Virgin Islands. Very smart. She's on MSNBC 517 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 11: a lot. She does not actually get a vote on 518 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 11: the committee. So she's a non voting member of Congress 519 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 11: from the Virgin Islands. Even she's thrown in with it. 520 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 11: She has a Democrat, but she's thrown in. You see 521 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 11: the targeting of Pete Hegseath. Let this be a lesson 522 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 11: for the rest of the day. Pete Hexath, by the way, 523 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 11: has put out a Both Pete and a Waltz have 524 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 11: both put out tweets and they're honkering down. No war plans, 525 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 11: no classified information, no locations, no names of everything. 526 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 8: We'll put them up after we come back from a break. 527 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 11: Want to thank Real America's Voice for our coverage this morning, 528 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 11: virtually commercial free for two hours. We wanted you to 529 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 11: get a full flavor of particularly House intel as they 530 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 11: come in for a kill shot on direct to Ratcliffe 531 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 11: of the CIA and Tulci Gabbard d n I. They're 532 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 11: trying to take this situation of this reporter Goldberg who 533 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 11: released this right before the committee started. As you can tell, 534 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,479 Speaker 11: this whole thing is a set up. Honestly, I think 535 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 11: it would have been smart to just cancer these hearings 536 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 11: and say we're gonna happen in thirty days. The threats 537 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 11: are the major threats are not going to go away 538 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 11: the report to take some of the steam off of this. 539 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:25,239 Speaker 6: Uh. 540 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 11: It's a setup, ambush, complete, total ambush, total ambush. And 541 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 11: you've seen it live for the last two days, so 542 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 11: you see it with your own eyes and you see 543 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 11: how the Democrats come in. The White House is hunkered down, 544 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 11: Waltz is hunkered down, Pete Hegsith's in the Pacific talking 545 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 11: to the INDO Pacific Command. 546 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 8: Is hunkered down. 547 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 11: We're gonna take a short commercial break where return. 548 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 8: In the war room in just a moment. 549 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 18: We will put it God we rejoiced most down, Yes 550 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 18: or no. 551 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 19: No, I'm going to answer that. I think that's an 552 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 19: offensive line of question. The answer is no. I find 553 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 19: it interesting that you. 554 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 17: Want to know. 555 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 19: I'm going to answer you answer a question you want 556 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 19: to answer No, Listen, you don't want to focus on 557 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 19: the good work that the CIA is doing, that the 558 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 19: intelligence community. 559 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 20: Director, I want to reclaim my time. Director, I reclaimed 560 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 20: my time here. I have huge respect for the CIA, 561 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 20: huge respect for men and women in uniform. But this 562 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 20: was a question that's on the top of minds of 563 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 20: every American. Right he stood in front of a podium 564 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 20: and Europe holding a drink, So of course we want 565 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,959 Speaker 20: to know if his performance is compromised. If you were 566 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 20: people were asking if the General Austin was compromised because 567 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 20: of a heart issue. 568 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 19: Was his performance compromised because of a successful right, mister, 569 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 19: I bring my do you want to know? You want 570 00:29:58,480 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 19: to talk about accepting response? 571 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 8: Do you think you read exclaim my time. 572 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 19: Responsibility for a successful strike to make Americans safer? 573 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,239 Speaker 8: I wanted to us on I reclaim my time. So 574 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 8: here's the thing, this is serious. 575 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 20: As somebody we've been briefed in this committee about using 576 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 20: signal one of the things they basically said, the most 577 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 20: secure phone call, the least secure text messaging. And we 578 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 20: know that your people are Russians, Chinese are on your. 579 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 9: Phone as times expired, gentlemen from Virginia, mister Kline, thank you. 580 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 7: Mister Chairman. 581 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 21: I'm going to give the director the ability to respond 582 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 21: without being interrupted by his question. 583 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 8: I appreciate that. 584 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:45,959 Speaker 19: Congressman. I guess you know, just a general reflection here 585 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 19: again that for the last two days, members of the 586 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 19: intelligence community have been asking questions about a signal messaging 587 00:30:55,680 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 19: group and not asking questions from Democrats, either in the 588 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 19: Senate or the House, on China, Russia, Iran and the 589 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 19: real threats that are going on to the United States. 590 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 19: And you can say that you care about the good 591 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 19: work that agencies are doing like the CIA, and that 592 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 19: you care about one hundred and forty stars on the wall, 593 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 19: but no one's asked me about my second day on 594 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 19: the job here where I lit the fuse that led 595 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 19: to a foreign government participating with us to capture one 596 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 19: of the senior planners of the Abbygate bombing that killed 597 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 19: thirteen Americans, And in the process, we worked with a 598 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 19: government that previously hadn't so that hadn't cooperated with US 599 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 19: on counter terrorism matters, or the fact no one has 600 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 19: focused on that. Within an hour of that taking place, 601 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 19: I was on the phone with Director Patel, and a 602 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 19: few hours later with Attorney General Bondi working together the 603 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 19: IC and the FBA, I working together to bring this 604 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 19: person home in less than a week. Unprecedented success for 605 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 19: the intelligence community and the law enforcement community. Exactly representative 606 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 19: of the kind of work that we should be doing 607 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 19: and the kind of work that an oversight committee should 608 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 19: be asking about. But instead we're getting questions about whether 609 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 19: or not someone has drinking habits. And I just wish 610 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 19: and an annual threats hearing where the American people want 611 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 19: to hear about threats that that's what we would be 612 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 19: talking about. Thanks for the opportunity to clarify absolutely. 613 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 21: Director, I want to thank you and all the people 614 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 21: who work with you, and all the witnesses and the 615 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 21: men and women, the brave men and women who are 616 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 21: putting their lives on the line each and every day 617 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 21: for this country and. 618 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 8: To the habit because we're going to run out of 619 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 8: time here. 620 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 11: That's been client that we had on the on TV 621 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 11: on the show yesterday to highlight this right there, that 622 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 11: is Congressman Jimmy Gonzalez previously from He's from Chinatown and 623 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 11: Boil Heights, as folks in LA know, that's the I 624 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 11: guess I'm not inner City, LA, but the famous Boil 625 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 11: Heights and Chinatown, Jimmy Gonzalez, and I told you that 626 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 11: targeting Pete Hexath would Congressman Gonzalez asked, had Pete Heggs 627 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 11: has been drinking while he was on that text chamber, 628 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 11: which means that Pete Hegxas was drinking on the job 629 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 11: because I was during a strike and you saw finally 630 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 11: with Ratcliffe, and I really appreciate the director of the 631 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 11: CIA finally had enough that hit Ratcliff's trip wire. After 632 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 11: two days he fired back hard. I think the administration 633 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 11: should understand us. 634 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 8: Afternoon. I don't think Mike Waltz is the target. It's 635 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 8: clearly Pete Hegseth. 636 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 11: This audience doesn't need to be reminded of the effort 637 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 11: this audience put in on that fixed band its fixed 638 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 11: bannets Thursday when everybody had to get up on it 639 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 11: to save Pete hexas nomination. When they were trying to 640 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 11: run Pete Hexath out of town for these allegations that 641 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 11: came from I don't know very women about drinking and 642 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 11: other issues. Pete Hexa has done a terrific job so 643 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 11: far as Secretary of Defense. He's at in the Indo 644 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 11: Pacific Command right now. Give an amazing talk yesterday to everybody. 645 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,439 Speaker 11: Get him motivated about the threat of the Chinese Commis Party, 646 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 11: as Captain Fanel tells us, and he's correct, Keep the 647 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 11: main thing, the main thing, and Pete Hexath is doing this. Okay, 648 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 11: we're going to turn over to Charlie Kirk Show now 649 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 11: on Real America's Voice. Charlie is going to pick up 650 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 11: with his coverage. We're going to be back in five 651 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 11: to seven. We've got a lot more that you didn't 652 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 11: hear in the PBS. They're trying to defund NPR and 653 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 11: PBS outrageous responses I think from PBS's management today, trying 654 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 11: to essentially just kick the can down the road. We'll 655 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 11: get more of that also, much more coming out of Intel. 656 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 11: Pete Hexas just put up a tweet, he's honkering down. 657 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 11: Mike Waltz put up a tweet, he's honkering down. The 658 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 11: going to the mattresses on this are just not going 659 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 11: to sit there and be punching bags for these radical democrats. 660 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 11: The courts are also involved. We told us that's going 661 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 11: to happen, so so much going on. We're going to 662 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 11: be back at We're gonna be back at five o'clock tonight. 663 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 11: We're going to turn you over to Charlie Kirk. Jack 664 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 11: Bosova will follow after that. 665 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 8: Gruber. Eric Bowling will be back at five o'clock. 666 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 11: Want to thank our sponsors are particularly Birch Gold. 667 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 8: Make sure you go birch gold dot com. 668 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,240 Speaker 11: And this is heating up right now, all everything about 669 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 11: the reconciliation, build, the taxes, the budget, all of it. 670 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 11: Make sure you go to birch gold dot com. Slash 671 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 11: bennon end of the dollar Empire. Most importantly, get to 672 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 11: Phillip Patrick and the team. Ask them, hey, you know 673 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 11: what the price of gold is is over three thousand bucks? 674 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 11: How to get there and where it's going? Were the 675 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 11: forces driving that? That's what you need to know. We're 676 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 11: not here to give you a fish. We're here to 677 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 11: help teach you how to fish converging factors so as 678 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 11: you can use your own human agency. And by the way, 679 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 11: couldn't have been a better compliment. At the top of 680 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 11: Vice Chairman Hyms saying the war room posse. When they 681 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 11: get involved, things happen, and folks, we're gonna have to 682 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 11: get involved in this morning. 683 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 8: Also going to have a live report from Florida. 684 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 11: Six issues down there, also in Wisconsin, and talk about 685 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 11: Pennsylvania lost a Senate seat last night. 686 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 8: All at five o'clock tonight. We'll see you back in 687 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 8: the war Room. Continue on now, Charlie Kirk, I find 688 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 12: It offensive for you at