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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis and I am joined in
Speaker 1: the room filled with some heroes, Patrick Claiban, Chris Westling
Speaker 1: and Greg Roseal what is up, boys? Hey, Dan, he's
Speaker 1: our util he's our utility guy. Slight just to start,
Speaker 1: not more than a slight. A utility guy. Um in baseball,
Speaker 1: if you have a really jack of all trades type
Speaker 1: talent that makes your roster so much better, and it's
Speaker 1: an unsung hero of any championship squad. West I back
Speaker 1: on this. It sounds like a bad term. That's fair,
Speaker 1: but in reality, you're not winning championships without a super
Speaker 1: utility guy who can plug it a lot of different positions.
Speaker 1: If if I was trying to pump myself up, I
Speaker 1: was kind of a utility guy for the Shield the year,
Speaker 1: absolutely integral and who was celebrating at the end of
Speaker 1: that season Shield? Well, when when we win the podcast championship,
Speaker 1: just uh, you know, let me be in the orbit,
Speaker 1: like when you guys are jumping up and down on
Speaker 1: the mound, Like I'll be that guy that high fiving security. Hey,
Speaker 1: I was here, allowed on the field. This is our
Speaker 1: a tradition after the draft, are around the a f
Speaker 1: C and around the NFC episodes and Claibon not his
Speaker 1: first rodeo here. If one of us is out of
Speaker 1: the studio, we could plug Patrick right in plug and
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Speaker 1: play and who next man up? Everyone loves plug and play.
Speaker 1: That's what you look for a plug and play guy. Well,
Speaker 1: he's been sharpening his iron against other men's iron for
Speaker 1: a lot of years. What else we got us? He's
Speaker 1: joining He could join us for up to the minute hits,
Speaker 1: which we might do on Wednesday and Thursday. It might
Speaker 1: be a little pre tape, a little peek behind the curtain.
Speaker 1: Tune into that. You don't have to tell him it's
Speaker 1: a pre tape. Well, they would maybe somehow put it together.
Speaker 1: There was at one time where I was here and
Speaker 1: then we didn't the show, and I was also hosting
Speaker 1: the show. Yeah, that's next level meta. Um. Anyway, So
Speaker 1: Clay Brons here in the Mark Cessler chair. Mark is
Speaker 1: wandering Los Angeles somewhere. I hope he's safe. I hope
Speaker 1: he's watching out for trains. That's a little call forward.
Speaker 1: Keep keep an eye out on Mark's been watching out
Speaker 1: for trains for years now, hopping on the occasionally little
Speaker 1: nail soup um. So yes, the draft is in the
Speaker 1: rearview mirror, free agencies in the review mirror. We have
Speaker 1: some offseason workouts to come, many mana mandatory mini camps,
Speaker 1: then the summer break and then train again. Listen, it's
Speaker 1: just it never stops. But after the draft comes a
Speaker 1: chance to reset things and take a look at where
Speaker 1: these teams are. And that's why we picked this time
Speaker 1: of year, this time of year and also right before
Speaker 1: Week one GREG to do the round the a f
Speaker 1: C and around the NFC, around all of these teams,
Speaker 1: get an idea of what's going on where we think
Speaker 1: they are right now. Some of my favorite shows of
Speaker 1: the year I like, I like stop watches, like I
Speaker 1: like the timed element. I like the fact that every
Speaker 1: team gets covered. So Jaguars fans, hey not a lot
Speaker 1: of populately, we got you covered. And this is a
Speaker 1: studio that's um prone to bloviating. But guess what when
Speaker 1: the clock when the clock strikes zero three minutes on
Speaker 1: every team, what happens, Ricky, Hollywood that that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: celebrator party or fist pump. Not to mention this is
Speaker 1: this will be the first episode in months where we
Speaker 1: don't spend at least ten minutes on Dave Gettleman and
Speaker 1: the giants. So that's that's like a positive. Well we
Speaker 1: think that he could find uh for sure? All right?
Speaker 1: Do we want to do anyone? Dig right in? Alright? Patrick?
Speaker 1: Are you ready? I'm ready? Do we want the takeaway
Speaker 1: at the top or at the end? Top you spend
Speaker 1: it however you want to spend it. Okay, I for
Speaker 1: me personally, and I'm just gonna say I will build
Speaker 1: to my kind of takeaway, but you feel free to
Speaker 1: take it. It is your three minutes. Well really it's
Speaker 1: your thirty second preamble second preamble, so and you're gonna start,
Speaker 1: which is different for the utility gap and leadoff. But
Speaker 1: I'm all about it. Baby. There we go. We get
Speaker 1: that money, plug and play utility guy. What else? We
Speaker 1: got six Men of the Year, another sport? Give us
Speaker 1: something hockey? I don't know. All right, Ricky, are we ready?
Speaker 1: You're on the clock? Important role for Erica too. I
Speaker 1: got some butterflies. Here she sounds confident. All right, all right,
Speaker 1: here we go. When I when I say around the
Speaker 1: A f C and forty eight minutes, and then I'll say, go,
Speaker 1: that's when you start, Patrick, and that's when the clocks go.
Speaker 1: It is time to go round to the a f C.
Speaker 1: The Tennessee Titans. When I look at the Tennessee Titans,
Speaker 1: oh wait, wait, wait, wait wait, you chose your order
Speaker 1: of your own making. Why no, you don't have these?
Speaker 1: You're gonna seven take few. We want to see the
Speaker 1: starter and let the guy in the leader in the
Speaker 1: on deck circle get used to the action. Here. We're
Speaker 1: gonna start with the a f C East. And I
Speaker 1: could have made that more clear. I certainly could have,
Speaker 1: But that's kind of tradition as well. M okay, okay,
Speaker 1: around the A f C minutes starts. Now go, it's new.
Speaker 1: It's a new day, kid, Miami. The Dolphins have a plan,
Speaker 1: and I see Christian Wilkins going to them in the
Speaker 1: first round. And then, of course nobody's paying attention to
Speaker 1: that because everybody's wondering what the quarterback situation is going
Speaker 1: to be. They are able to use a pick in
Speaker 1: the second round, to trade with New Orleans get a
Speaker 1: second rounder back. They just move back, so they have
Speaker 1: they still have their two. They have thirteen picks next
Speaker 1: year in draft, which everybody was all excited for, and
Speaker 1: now they have Josh Rosen and now they have a future.
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, by takeaway to the Dolphins fans who
Speaker 1: were so all about tanking. The Miami Dolphins are trying now,
Speaker 1: and I'm glad because tanking sucks. That's my ta. I
Speaker 1: never really believed that they were tanking in the in
Speaker 1: the same kind of full throated, totally committed way that
Speaker 1: the media seems to believe that they were. Like I believe, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're stripping down and they're they're trying to play for
Speaker 1: the future. But I even think the front office and
Speaker 1: the coaching staff is trying to win games right now,
Speaker 1: Like what are the moves that they made that are
Speaker 1: really trying to lose? They're just trying to be smarter
Speaker 1: than they were before and get rid of the old
Speaker 1: mistakes that they had. Looks to me like they backed
Speaker 1: into not tanking. They planned the tank as much as
Speaker 1: any NFL team can tank. It's not the NBA. You
Speaker 1: can't really tank in the NFL like you can in
Speaker 1: the NBA. It doesn't even help. But then the Cardinals
Speaker 1: came calling with like, yeah, we'll give you Josh Rosen
Speaker 1: for a deep, deep discount. They're like, maybe we want
Speaker 1: tank after him. Rosen is Rosen fits with tanking. No,
Speaker 1: I mean not, don't. There is no tanking in the NFL.
Speaker 1: There's playing for the future and setting yourself up as
Speaker 1: best as you can. That he's the fascinating part of
Speaker 1: this now because I think they were on the track
Speaker 1: to three and thirteen, and perhaps they still go three
Speaker 1: and thirteen. But if Josh Rosen signs, shows signs that
Speaker 1: he can be the guy, and that he's under contract
Speaker 1: for three years and I think six million total, which
Speaker 1: is great, that is a great spot for the team
Speaker 1: to evaluate him. But he's really gonna have Rosen will
Speaker 1: have a challenge. He's got to knock the socks off
Speaker 1: the Dolphins to not use a high pick on a quarterback.
Speaker 1: I think the takeaway that I got from was we've
Speaker 1: been in purgatory for so long and we've been decent
Speaker 1: and halfway decent. The only way to make this work
Speaker 1: is to tear it all up. And you have all
Speaker 1: of these fancy names like something ball and all this
Speaker 1: other ball, but it all equates to tanking. If losing
Speaker 1: is the goal, it helps you accomplish what you want,
Speaker 1: then you're tanking. Yes and glad with a new coach
Speaker 1: that they're not taking because we saw the Cardinals do
Speaker 1: it last year. We saw no plan, it didn't work out.
Speaker 1: Everybody got fired. We saw the Jets try to do
Speaker 1: it with Todd Bowls. He messed around and won too
Speaker 1: many games, almost messed up the bad They're able to
Speaker 1: get Sam Donald, it all worked out. I don't want
Speaker 1: to see this with another coaching staff and another team.
Speaker 1: I think they might understand the that they have to
Speaker 1: take a step back to and eventually get out of
Speaker 1: that seven and nine. But if they have a good
Speaker 1: coaching staff. It's the NFL, it's not the SEC where
Speaker 1: there's that big of a difference. I mean, I know
Speaker 1: it's not a great roster, but DeVante Parker, Kenny Stills,
Speaker 1: Laramie tunsil Kenyan Drake like there are worse. They're less
Speaker 1: talented teams out there. That didn't sway me in any
Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills. Chris Wesley, what an off season
Speaker 1: this is? One of my favorite off seasons in the
Speaker 1: NFL and the reason why when I look at all
Speaker 1: of the teams and what they've done, I think this
Speaker 1: is your offseason champion in terms of net talent acquisition, projected,
Speaker 1: snaps lost and snaps gained. Who have they lost outside
Speaker 1: of Kyle Williams, who they didn't want to lose, I
Speaker 1: mean he retired, But every other person they lost they
Speaker 1: cut because they didn't want him anymore. And they've gained
Speaker 1: by my account, about twenty players who will make the
Speaker 1: team probably tend to tend to twelve starters. That's an
Speaker 1: aggressive rebuilding of the roster for a team that showed
Speaker 1: on defense certainly and in the quarterback position. Josh Allen
Speaker 1: in spurts that they could be trending in the right direction.
Speaker 1: Do we tru we trust management? There? You're saying I
Speaker 1: trust what they've done and that they had one of
Speaker 1: the most barren rosters in the NFL, and we're winning
Speaker 1: games because of good coaching and a pretty good defense.
Speaker 1: But their offense was incredibly um what's the right word,
Speaker 1: spartan scatter shot like their quarterback on the verge of
Speaker 1: being historically the worst offense in the history of professional football.
Speaker 1: They were able to say alvit that late in the season,
Speaker 1: but they were all time bad and then, as you know,
Speaker 1: Dan said, Spurts Josh Allen made things better. I think
Speaker 1: you see an organization where the GM and the coach
Speaker 1: are on the same page. And mc dermott, if nothing else,
Speaker 1: I think he has a type of player, a type
Speaker 1: of defense. He has an idea of what he wants.
Speaker 1: It's whether they can do it on offense. Because they
Speaker 1: have Brian Dable there who did some okay things. The
Speaker 1: offensive line looks so much better. I mean Mitch Morris,
Speaker 1: Cody Ford, who was a good value in the second round.
Speaker 1: Quentin Spain was a free agent pickup Tightness Nasheky from
Speaker 1: Washington's had some good moments like that's a whole new
Speaker 1: offensive line. On paper, it looks pretty good. And we
Speaker 1: saw it play out in the top ten of the draft,
Speaker 1: where we knew that the Bills wanted at Oliver. So
Speaker 1: many teams were interested in at Oliver, but they didn't
Speaker 1: make the trade and they traded up in his past,
Speaker 1: but they were able to hold Steady. Saw some turmoil
Speaker 1: at the top and the guy that they falls right
Speaker 1: to them at that ninth pick. So yeah, I'd like
Speaker 1: Nossure and they needed someone to kind of build the
Speaker 1: defense around, and maybe he's he's that talented. I'd like
Speaker 1: to see you have this running back situation shakes out.
Speaker 1: Leshan McCoy obviously is right now the starter, but they're
Speaker 1: going get Devin Singletary in the third round out of
Speaker 1: Florida Atlantic, who was supposed to be a really good player.
Speaker 1: You already got t J yelled, and you have Frank
Speaker 1: Gore and the roster. It feels like the other shoe
Speaker 1: is gonna drop there soon. Yeah, I wonder about Lesha McCoy.
Speaker 1: He's he's a big factor if he's on the team,
Speaker 1: and I know they say they're not cutting him, but
Speaker 1: he didn't play well enough to keep his job last year.
Speaker 1: Where is he at this point as a player? Is?
Speaker 1: I think he played pretty well for much of the season.
Speaker 1: I actually thought he was he was explosive. He had
Speaker 1: the average three point two yards pera when you watched him,
Speaker 1: I think he looked pretty good. They they haven't invented
Speaker 1: an explosive three point two yards per carry. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: the offense was miserable. Alright, my new York Jets um
Speaker 1: Quentin Williams. They stay put put and they pick him
Speaker 1: number three overall in the draft. And it was a
Speaker 1: safe pick and potentially one that could pay off big
Speaker 1: time because Williams can really ball. He's not the only Williams. Oh,
Speaker 1: so you've got Leonard Williams also on this defensive one.
Speaker 1: He was the sixth overall pick. Uh in two thousand fifteen,
Speaker 1: I believe fourteen or fifteen. Uh. Henry Anderson, a guy
Speaker 1: who was really impressive last year for the team, was
Speaker 1: a difference maker on their defense. They brought him back. Uh.
Speaker 1: You also have Steve McClendon there. He's kind of like
Speaker 1: a hold the fort veteran guy. But you added especially
Speaker 1: with the two Williams and and Greg you referenced it
Speaker 1: on our draft recap, the new Williams wall. The potential
Speaker 1: of this Williams wall, this interior defensive line, it could
Speaker 1: be potentially dominant, dominant, and it works on two fronts.
Speaker 1: Quinnin Williams has this great monster potential and Leonard Williams,
Speaker 1: who has been a steady producer for the Jets but
Speaker 1: maybe has not reached his full potential. Well, now he's
Speaker 1: with a real stud next to him. What can that do?
Speaker 1: And the last thing, Greg is it gets me excited
Speaker 1: because we know it's one of the tropes around Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: He doesn't like the pressure in his face. Well, now
Speaker 1: the Jets have a potential uh to have one of
Speaker 1: the best internal defensive lines in all of football and
Speaker 1: forty two you your old quarterbacks don't like twenty something
Speaker 1: guys chasing them down and giving them the ruckus. And yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe they can figure out how to, you know, make
Speaker 1: him hold onto the ball because he gets rid of
Speaker 1: it so quick and their line is good. But the
Speaker 1: Jets do get the Patriots twice early in the season.
Speaker 1: That's the time to place to play the Patriots. I
Speaker 1: think they play him twice in the first six weeks.
Speaker 1: And the Jets do look like a team if they
Speaker 1: can get the offense on track quick enough. Greg Williams
Speaker 1: starts fast like that's kind of the Greg Williams m
Speaker 1: o is. His defenses start like a house of fire
Speaker 1: and then they slowly collapse over time as maybe the
Speaker 1: message wears off. I don't know what it is, but
Speaker 1: that's the pretty well down the stretch last fair trying
Speaker 1: to figure out why they didn't add more at cornerback
Speaker 1: and outside linebacker to this team. Those are like that
Speaker 1: in the right side of the offensive line. Are the
Speaker 1: three questions I have about the Jets. I normally have
Speaker 1: a lot more questions about the Yeah, they didn't address center,
Speaker 1: and we'll see if that's one of those um pickups
Speaker 1: that happens in the next month or so. More Claiborne,
Speaker 1: who's still out there by the way, right Claiborne, and
Speaker 1: that the doors opened for him to return potentially. So
Speaker 1: this is by no means a finished product in New York.
Speaker 1: But I'm just talking about I get excited about this
Speaker 1: defensive line and it would have been nice to have
Speaker 1: that guy off the edge to go nuts. And maybe
Speaker 1: the third round pick uh does that for them. But
Speaker 1: the Williams Wall Patrick claib I like it. I like
Speaker 1: the Williams wal There's a lot to be excited about.
Speaker 1: There's also a lot to be worried about between Greg
Speaker 1: Williams and Adam Gaze. And just to embrace that the
Speaker 1: potential for disaster, I've embraced headlock watch and people um
Speaker 1: they play up the New York things. If New York
Speaker 1: like has different air or people consume calories differently. But
Speaker 1: if it's to go south, it could go south anywhere.
Speaker 1: It could go south. Miami. We got a triple on
Speaker 1: your jets. That happens sometimes every every defensive linebing you draft,
Speaker 1: interviewed after the draft says I can't wait to sack
Speaker 1: Tom Brady twelve and four Patriots. Greg. My big thought
Speaker 1: and take away after this draft is on the side
Speaker 1: of the ball no one's talked about all offseason. There's
Speaker 1: no defensive coordinator, and there's not a lot of juice
Speaker 1: in the front seven. I'm torn because on one hand,
Speaker 1: they're coming off arguably the greatest defensive performance in Super
Speaker 1: Bowl history, but by some metrics. But is their secondary
Speaker 1: good enough to kind of make up for a whole
Speaker 1: hum front seven which lost Trey Flowers. They drafted John
Speaker 1: Williams in the second round. They love these big corners
Speaker 1: who can play multiple positions. They have Duke Dawson, who
Speaker 1: didn't play a snap for them last year, their second
Speaker 1: round pick added to mccordy e Chung, the other mccordy,
Speaker 1: Stephon Gilmour. It's a great looking, uh secondary. There's some
Speaker 1: sort of analytics, you know, talk bubbling up that the
Speaker 1: way to build the defense is actually the secondary first
Speaker 1: is more valuable, and that you can scheme up pressure. Uh,
Speaker 1: and that can be less valuable. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's why the Patriots are doing it this way, but
Speaker 1: they've it's very rare that they've had this little juice
Speaker 1: in the front seven. Wait, you're worried about the defense
Speaker 1: on this team? I mean, I think they're gonna have
Speaker 1: to have. Are they any worse than last year? Well,
Speaker 1: that you lost three Flowers, You're but Michael Bennett, You've
Speaker 1: got Michael Bennett. Uh, You've got donte Hot Towers a
Speaker 1: year older. You're bringing Jawan Bentley back who missed almost
Speaker 1: old last year. You know, if you're telling me Dietrich Wise,
Speaker 1: Larry Guy, Mike Bennett, donte Hy Tower, and Kyle van
Speaker 1: Noy is like an above average front seven, I'm not buying.
Speaker 1: It's so. And what you're painting here is that Trey
Speaker 1: Flowers is better than Aaron Donald. That's the picture you're
Speaker 1: painting to me. No, I'm I'm also, you know, mildly concerned.
Speaker 1: There's not a coach, or not many coaches on that
Speaker 1: side of the ball. I don't know. I think they
Speaker 1: want to play things a little closer to the vest
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be a little bit more of a
Speaker 1: running team. You can't you can't expect their offense to
Speaker 1: be nearly as dominant, and by the way, they weren't
Speaker 1: nearly as dominant a year ago. So you need the
Speaker 1: defense to be really good. Is the secondary that good?
Speaker 1: It might be actually might be the best SEC outside
Speaker 1: of Trey Flowers. What is a concern about this defense?
Speaker 1: They played really well from the rush, pass rush, and
Speaker 1: pass and run stopping neither which they were like great
Speaker 1: throughout much of last season. They finished super strong. You
Speaker 1: sell like a man whose underpants are so dry, so arid.
Speaker 1: It's a desert down there, and you don't even know
Speaker 1: what to complain about. Well, we've talked so much about
Speaker 1: the offense all offseason. I just I'm just stop buying.
Speaker 1: This guy is falling on the Patriots. Though I don't
Speaker 1: think it's falling. I have more want to introduce the idea,
Speaker 1: can you win with like a dominant secondary and h
Speaker 1: ho hum front seven? It is kind of the way
Speaker 1: the Patriots and they do that. Yeah, that it is,
Speaker 1: So where would you where would you put the front seven,
Speaker 1: like just pure talent for team No. Not in the
Speaker 1: top twenty in pure talent. If you give that defense
Speaker 1: to a random team, I'm not in in a random
Speaker 1: game planner. I'm not trusting that front seven. I mean,
Speaker 1: concerns about the Patriots coaching staff is something I would
Speaker 1: never hear. I thought I would hear on the show.
Speaker 1: And I don't turn about the I'm talking about the past,
Speaker 1: like who's their best one on one pass rusher? Michael Bennet.
Speaker 1: So just if he named anybody defense recordator, you'd feel better,
Speaker 1: just like a name, justif the a f C North Division.
Speaker 1: Let's do that with the Baltimore Ravens, a team that
Speaker 1: people got it concerned about the order that's all about
Speaker 1: the um in terms of well, what's the future with
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco or are we gonna be? And now there's
Speaker 1: a plan. There's a plan for the Baltimore Ravens, and
Speaker 1: it seems like speed itself is the plan. They're able
Speaker 1: to get Hollywood Brown in the first round, a guy
Speaker 1: a lot of people thought was the best wide receiver
Speaker 1: of this group. He can fly, and they lose for
Speaker 1: Ell Suggs on the defense. That sucks. That's not good.
Speaker 1: This guy has been a big part of the franchise
Speaker 1: at Cornerstone. So they lose one all time n C
Speaker 1: double a sac artist, and they get another and Jalen Ferguson.
Speaker 1: They're able to get him in the third round. And
Speaker 1: Jalen had horrible workouts. I went to his pro day
Speaker 1: at low Tech. It was bad. He couldn't turn. He
Speaker 1: gained a lot of weight to try to, you know,
Speaker 1: prove that he could be a certain thing. It didn't
Speaker 1: work out. Uh, he couldn't move at all. I don't
Speaker 1: think that's going to be a problem long term. And
Speaker 1: for the people who were concerned about Baltimore trying to
Speaker 1: run triple option and single wing all last year, it's like,
Speaker 1: how what can Lamar do? That was something Lamar had
Speaker 1: never done either, and so he was in his first
Speaker 1: year in that situation. And they take two wide receivers
Speaker 1: right off the top. They get Miles Boykin out of
Speaker 1: Notre Dame as well as Hollywood Brown guys that can
Speaker 1: move play in different spots. I don't think they're gonna
Speaker 1: be the same team there. It was It's almost as
Speaker 1: if Um and this was Eric to Costas like first,
Speaker 1: this is my show draft. Uh it was almost a
Speaker 1: shot of critics. I know it wasn't, but it can.
Speaker 1: It feels that way that you guys think this Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 1: he's not somebody that can light things up with the
Speaker 1: arm and be a big time passer. Well, this is
Speaker 1: how much we believe. And I'm we're gonna invest the
Speaker 1: top of our draft board in giving him weapons to
Speaker 1: build that part of his game. I mean, if he
Speaker 1: does develop as a passer, look out, this guy is
Speaker 1: gonna be legit. They have about what twenty five years
Speaker 1: of history in which they're of the quintessential black and
Speaker 1: blue bruising team, and I think it's interesting that they're
Speaker 1: going with speed now that you playing on a grass field,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be interesting. And I mean they were a
Speaker 1: different team you're I mean when Lamar Jackson took over,
Speaker 1: we haven't seen a team quite like that. And I
Speaker 1: still think they're going to be very run heavy, but
Speaker 1: run heavy in the way that any one of these
Speaker 1: guys can take at the distance. That's what stuck out
Speaker 1: about Boykin Brown and Injustice Hill their fourth round running back.
Speaker 1: If you're into the whole spark score thing, that Rodor
Speaker 1: World loves right about these guys are all like top
Speaker 1: two percentile Sparks scores. Boykin, I think had one of
Speaker 1: the best combine workouts in history, and Justice Hill wasn't
Speaker 1: too far behind. I don't want to blow up the
Speaker 1: rest of this. Uh what does SPARK score again? I'm
Speaker 1: seeing this a lot. What stands for something? But it's
Speaker 1: it's basically a measure of freakish athleticism. It's espencial, essentially
Speaker 1: a combination of all the different combine athleticism scores into
Speaker 1: one big number. Did you know that Terrell Suggs's sack
Speaker 1: record was broken by So it's not just yikes, Okay,
Speaker 1: get it. Spark is an acronym that stands for speed, power, agility, reaction,
Speaker 1: and quickness. I did not know that. There we go.
Speaker 1: You learned things you already know, things that reinforces things
Speaker 1: Wes your former love the Cincinnati Bengals. You know about
Speaker 1: get going right, you know about the Dalton scale, but
Speaker 1: there's also a Dalton mirror. What tell us about this?
Speaker 1: He's the one quarterback who's perfectly reflective of his surrounding
Speaker 1: talent at all times when it's the best in the league,
Speaker 1: Like when John Harbor and Bill Bullion said the Bengals
Speaker 1: had the best roster in the league in two thousand fifteen.
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton makes his way to the periphery of the
Speaker 1: m v P discussion when he's gone, well, um, when
Speaker 1: the roster is depleted, the entire team and the quarterback
Speaker 1: is simply an afterthought. And I think you could say
Speaker 1: they're surrounding talent. Now, if Jonah Williams can stick at
Speaker 1: left tackle, or if they stick Glenn at left tack,
Speaker 1: one put him at right tackle. If he can stick
Speaker 1: at tackle, this has a chance to be their best
Speaker 1: offensive roster since two thousand fift get an approach that
Speaker 1: level of success, you think. I just think there's too
Speaker 1: many question marks. The two fifteen roster had answers. This
Speaker 1: one just has a lot of questions. Well, to me,
Speaker 1: A J. Green is not a question. Tyler Boyd's not
Speaker 1: a question. Corty Glennett left tackle, if he's healthy, that's
Speaker 1: not a question. That's a huge question because he isn't
Speaker 1: even played well that is, but at least it's a talent.
Speaker 1: Tyler Effort's a big question. And then mixing, mixing and
Speaker 1: g oh, that's not much of a question. This is
Speaker 1: a pretty locked and loaded I'm with you skill position group. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the offensive line is the question a lot of people
Speaker 1: when you see John Ross and his lead up, that's
Speaker 1: a question what he's had, people said. Even still, if
Speaker 1: you put him in this twenty nineteen draft class, he
Speaker 1: probably he might have been one of the first wide
Speaker 1: receivers off the board, just based on the things that
Speaker 1: he could do, not just based on speed, because there's
Speaker 1: plenty of people that could run, uh seeing glimpses from Ross,
Speaker 1: but just the surrounds, the surroundings, as you mentioned it,
Speaker 1: it's just a bad situation for other people. And did
Speaker 1: they have a plan to address is out there that
Speaker 1: say he can run routes that they say he's an
Speaker 1: actual receiver and not just a speed merchant. Bengals don't
Speaker 1: see him part of those truths though they didn't with
Speaker 1: with keeping him necessarily this offseason. Well, it's just what
Speaker 1: are they in love with? Mm hmm, Zach Taylor, I
Speaker 1: mean the Bengals Duke Taban, they committed to it seems
Speaker 1: like the loyalty they have a J and it's just like,
Speaker 1: well a J is so good, Like what do we
Speaker 1: I guess we just keep him. I think they're defining
Speaker 1: trademarket loyalty. Their backfield is interesting. Uh. They have mixed
Speaker 1: in of course, and Joe Bernard has been there for
Speaker 1: a while now. They added somebody in the draft and
Speaker 1: Trayvon Williams. Uh is everyone safe there the current cast?
Speaker 1: I think so. They had to cut Mark Walton, the
Speaker 1: guy they drafted in the fourth round last year to
Speaker 1: play running back, because he got arrested three times between
Speaker 1: the end of the season, and like the middle of
Speaker 1: Orange can't do that. Uh, loyalty is a good word
Speaker 1: for it. They have more drafted players on their roster
Speaker 1: than any team by far. There's more homegrown guys. I
Speaker 1: think it was thirty nine. It was like six or
Speaker 1: seven more than any other team in the NFL. And alright,
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers. So, all right, Pittsburgh, as we know,
Speaker 1: did something very un Pittsburgh like on Draft Day. They
Speaker 1: traded up. They got Devin Bush a tenth overall. It
Speaker 1: is their first pick inside the top ten since who
Speaker 1: Troy Palamon. No, they moved up to get palm All.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Black Scob Burris all those years
Speaker 1: ago anyway, Um so Bush, he's supposed to be the
Speaker 1: Ryan Shazier replacement, and god knows they've been looking for
Speaker 1: that since Zer went down with that terrible injury. Uh.
Speaker 1: They've used seventh straight first round picks on defensive players.
Speaker 1: Um elsewhere from that draft. So they turned Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: into Deonte Johnson uh, Toledo wide receiver at a tight
Speaker 1: end Zach Gentry. We'll see how that all plays out.
Speaker 1: It doesn't jump out at you on paper necessarily. But
Speaker 1: here's my question. Have the Steelers done enough after last
Speaker 1: year's disappointment and disappointed for Pittsburgh's relative because nine six
Speaker 1: and one, I'd love to see a nine six and
Speaker 1: one uh for my team. But with the Steelers, when
Speaker 1: you missed the playoffs, it's bad and they were quiet
Speaker 1: and free agency as usual, they trade their best player. Uh.
Speaker 1: Is it? I asked, is this still an a f
Speaker 1: C powerhouse? And if that's a fair question, it's the
Speaker 1: first time you could ask that in quite a long time.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're a team that you put it
Speaker 1: in ink that they're going to make the playoffs, whereas
Speaker 1: I think in the last they were that team. I
Speaker 1: think they're I would put them in in pencil so
Speaker 1: it can be erased. But a guy like Deonte Johnson,
Speaker 1: I read that the Steelers had a first round grade
Speaker 1: on him, and I'm sorry. I trust the Steelers wide
Speaker 1: receiver evaluations over any draft nick for anyone else in
Speaker 1: the football community. The loss of Chaisier was something that
Speaker 1: they never were able to recover from. And during this
Speaker 1: entire run of dominance, it's been this offense carrying things
Speaker 1: and as bad as the relationships were on that side
Speaker 1: of the ball, they still produced and it was still
Speaker 1: the defense that was chiefly responded. Blake Bortles goes in
Speaker 1: there and they scored forty five points. Levian and Ben
Speaker 1: and Antonio did everything they could so they could, they
Speaker 1: couldn't overcome with Blake Portle's lead offense. Uh. And so
Speaker 1: my question is is Bush enough to get you there?
Speaker 1: And they've gone so long that Dan brought up without
Speaker 1: picking highly in the draft, if that's if that's enough,
Speaker 1: the defense is better, But is that enough to overcome
Speaker 1: the fact that they lose a guy that's potentially go
Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame if he didn't make too
Speaker 1: many writers mad um and he's going either way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they've been terrible drafting in the secondary. They feel better
Speaker 1: about it now. They added Mark Barron, who we haven't
Speaker 1: talked about it all, was probably gonna start for them
Speaker 1: inside linebacker along with bush Um. They there To answer
Speaker 1: your initial question, Absolutely, they're a contender. I think they
Speaker 1: were last year. I mean they were last two games
Speaker 1: of the year. They beat the Patriots and lost by
Speaker 1: a play like power against st Yes, I would put them.
Speaker 1: I would put them with the Chiefs and the Chargers
Speaker 1: and the Patriots as the teams where I'd be surprised
Speaker 1: if they don't make them. Then, Mike Tomins, this is
Speaker 1: a big let's move on. Next up, Greg Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 1: All right, We've talked so much again about the offense
Speaker 1: on the Browns, and it was a quiet draft for
Speaker 1: the offensive the brown So I just wanted to like
Speaker 1: look at the defense and think how happy Steve Wilkes
Speaker 1: might be. I feel like not a lot of Wilkes
Speaker 1: pop coming off a pretty tough season. If if Wilkes
Speaker 1: can come to get you know, if Wilkes can coach
Speaker 1: up this team and he's been a good defensive coordinator before, Like,
Speaker 1: where does this talent level match with the rest of
Speaker 1: the league. Because to me, Myles Garrett, ogun Joby, Sheldon Richardson,
Speaker 1: Olivier Vernon. They added uh, you know, Greedy Williams. In
Speaker 1: the draft. They four of their first five picks were
Speaker 1: on defense, to a group that had Curtsey, that had
Speaker 1: Denzel Award, uh, that had a pretty solid secondary. A
Speaker 1: nice trade they got with Damarius Randall. T J care Like,
Speaker 1: this is deep. You go up and down and you
Speaker 1: don't really see a weakness out of this defense. And
Speaker 1: to me, there's a real chance that their defense is
Speaker 1: as good or better than their offense with Baker Mayfiel.
Speaker 1: They're feeling the moment. You can tell that John Dorsey
Speaker 1: though Dell Beckham trade, he's feeling the moment. He's got
Speaker 1: the quarterback, he's got the city behind him, he's got
Speaker 1: the football world behind him. And now he's trying to
Speaker 1: get Gerald McCoy too for his deep right, that would
Speaker 1: that would be something else, and I think he would
Speaker 1: make sense on that team as kind of a one
Speaker 1: year that like if I was trying to find some
Speaker 1: sort of weakness here, I don't know. I guess their
Speaker 1: safeties and maybe their secondaries, not offensive line. Oh you're
Speaker 1: talking about yeah, yeah, just on you you're right, Greg, Well,
Speaker 1: Greg Robinson starting at left tackle stands out. I agree.
Speaker 1: I think the biggest challenge, and this is not insignificant,
Speaker 1: will be expectations and what and what's going to be
Speaker 1: expected of a team that for years and years was
Speaker 1: a total laughing stock. And even last year, um entering
Speaker 1: the season, you know, hard knocks and all that they were,
Speaker 1: people were still laughing at the Browns. This this will
Speaker 1: be a totally different experience. Uh. And Freddie Kitchens, I
Speaker 1: think is a huge piece of this too. How does
Speaker 1: he handle it in his first year? But I agree
Speaker 1: with all you guys, this is this is such a
Speaker 1: good roster and everything's pointing in a very positive direction.
Speaker 1: Brown But it's a new coaching staff. Even though Kitchens
Speaker 1: is there, it's a it's a reminder it is a
Speaker 1: new coaching staff. The offense. I mean, you got they
Speaker 1: added Todd Monkin to to Freddie Kitchens. To me, that's
Speaker 1: a huge win defensive coaching staff. Who knows, and perhaps
Speaker 1: that might be it at a certain point. You have
Speaker 1: a lot of chefs. Uh, you got some really good ingredients.
Speaker 1: Well that was the last that was the problem with
Speaker 1: the last person. Well, yeah, that was a lot of
Speaker 1: chefs like trying to use the same night, trying to
Speaker 1: poison each other. But there's a couple of them successful. Um,
Speaker 1: I see a team that on the topic of expectations,
Speaker 1: these guys are expected to win individually, um from Odell
Speaker 1: two miles to like a lot of guys across the
Speaker 1: board one on one situations, you expect them to win.
Speaker 1: And so I don't think expectations are a problem. Is
Speaker 1: just how they're going to execute and what the results
Speaker 1: might be, what they do and who's how much is
Speaker 1: better Baker gonna be? And I endorse that statement. Now
Speaker 1: move on, alright, alright, let's let's pause. You got nobody
Speaker 1: sees the Jarvis Landry Odell Beckham Junior friendship fallout that's
Speaker 1: coming over targets. Nobody sees it, but it's coming. Mark
Speaker 1: my words, all right, but you see it's coming. How
Speaker 1: does that all right? I am right currently marking your words.
Speaker 1: Mark the words. It will get off. They're not gonna
Speaker 1: like each other anymore. Now they're gonna hate each other
Speaker 1: and it will tear the cocker room apart. Um. I
Speaker 1: want to talk about something serious though, guys. Uh, you
Speaker 1: know a little pause here. It could be a little frustrating,
Speaker 1: especially if you're in a hurry or running late to
Speaker 1: find yourself at a railway crossing waiting for a train,
Speaker 1: and if the signals are going and the train's not
Speaker 1: even there yet, you can feel bit tempted to try
Speaker 1: and sneak across the tracks. Well, don't ever know. I
Speaker 1: want to show of hands here and including Erica behind
Speaker 1: the glass. Has anyone done that the gates down the train?
Speaker 1: You know acceptable time for the gate down train thirty
Speaker 1: seconds for me. You start going past that, you hit
Speaker 1: the minute mark. I'm sitting there like, no, this is
Speaker 1: my time. You're messing with here? Who's done it? Be honest?
Speaker 1: Done what? No? I just said? You got? You drive
Speaker 1: through the around the gate because then a lot of
Speaker 1: times there's not even at least the ones I'm thinking
Speaker 1: of that I go through daily, you can't even get
Speaker 1: around it. I've made a lot of bad decisions in
Speaker 1: my life, incredible string of bad decisions all throughout my
Speaker 1: twenties and thirties, But not once was I tempted to
Speaker 1: gamble on a train smart West, because that's a bad
Speaker 1: thing to do. Trains are going a lot faster than
Speaker 1: you expect them to be. They can't stop. Did you know, Patrick,
Speaker 1: did you know that when they when they conduct there
Speaker 1: hits the brakes on a train takes how long to stop?
Speaker 1: Give me a distance? I mean it takes a mile?
Speaker 1: Bro straight up? Whoa, that's a long way anyway. So
Speaker 1: don't do it. Don't be cute. If the signals are on,
Speaker 1: the train is on its way, and you you just
Speaker 1: need to remember one thing. Let's stop, just like Jervis
Speaker 1: Landry Nodell Beckham when they're sniping back and forth over targets,
Speaker 1: the Freddy Kitchens. Stop. You know what trains can't right.
Speaker 1: I see you guys at the seventeen Street station in
Speaker 1: Santa Monica jumping over the tracks and making my son
Speaker 1: want to do it. It's not worth a bad example,
Speaker 1: but that is a terrible stern talking there every weekend
Speaker 1: from Dr Money thousands of tonus, Dr Rainmaker. All right,
Speaker 1: let's now dive back into it. Let's go around the
Speaker 1: other half of the A f C. Starting Patrick Claybourne
Speaker 1: with the Yes a f C South. I'm all fired
Speaker 1: up about these Tennessee Titans. Um starting right off with
Speaker 1: that first pick. Jeffrey Simmons It tells me something about
Speaker 1: John Robinson and Amy Adams drunk and what this team
Speaker 1: struggle and how this franchise is going to position itself.
Speaker 1: They're playing the long game because Simmons might not be
Speaker 1: able to play in two thousand and nineteen. Um this
Speaker 1: is a guy that might not even get on the
Speaker 1: field until himself at the start of all season preparation
Speaker 1: getting ready for the draft. He tears his a c
Speaker 1: l um and they've they're committed to the future. That's
Speaker 1: that's only something you can do if you feel confident
Speaker 1: in your ability to still have your job. Um. So
Speaker 1: they are able to get a J. Brown, They've got
Speaker 1: an opportunity to get him Money Hooker, a guy who
Speaker 1: a lot of people felt could have gone higher. They
Speaker 1: get him in the fourth round, a defensive back of Iowa.
Speaker 1: Um So they have value in this draft. And people think, oh,
Speaker 1: you know the same old Titans. Well, it's hard to win,
Speaker 1: it's hard to win football games. They've been in contention
Speaker 1: late in years and and there's just that little something
Speaker 1: and Jeffrey Simmons might be that guy. Daniel Jeremiah and
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks said, five years down the road, if somebody
Speaker 1: says that Jeffrey Simmons was the best player in the
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen draft, they would not be surprised. I think
Speaker 1: that they're permitted to the long game in Tennessee. Well,
Speaker 1: they won five games over a course of two seasons
Speaker 1: in fourteen and fifteen, and they've won nine per season since.
Speaker 1: But you look at the defense and you don't see
Speaker 1: other than Durrell Casey guys that make a huge difference.
Speaker 1: So Simmons hopefully can be that for them, even if
Speaker 1: it's not this year. Well, I look at that offense,
Speaker 1: like you said, they went nine and seven, and out
Speaker 1: of necessity, they leaned really heavily on Derrick Henry down
Speaker 1: the stretch. They just didn't have the firepower in their
Speaker 1: passing game. And since the end of the last season,
Speaker 1: you welcome back to Laney Walker, who's a Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: tight end and missed virtually the entire season. You add
Speaker 1: an excellent slot receiver in Adam Humphries, and then you
Speaker 1: add a j Brown in the second round as a playmaker,
Speaker 1: and this Mariota has got probably more weapons than he's
Speaker 1: ever had. I think there's no doubt about that. We've
Speaker 1: talked about it a lot Mariota how important this season
Speaker 1: is for him, Ryan Tannehill right behind him. I wonder
Speaker 1: if Mariota could can afford a slow start in September,
Speaker 1: how long would his leash be if the if Tennessee
Speaker 1: got off to a slow start on offense. I can't
Speaker 1: imagine him getting benched while healthy almost at all, maybe
Speaker 1: until December, you know, unless things really went out off
Speaker 1: the tracks. But that that's just me because I just
Speaker 1: don't think they'll see Tannehill as like some savior, and
Speaker 1: nobody does. It's not like there's gonna be some massive
Speaker 1: fan clamoring for Ryan Tannehill anywhere. To me, it's more
Speaker 1: just a smart plan for the eventuality of Mariota missing
Speaker 1: a game, which seems to happen at least you know,
Speaker 1: once a season. Well, it sinks. It sinks playoff chances
Speaker 1: when he misses a game or two, because they traditionally
Speaker 1: had some of the worst backup quarterback play in the league.
Speaker 1: He might be playing for a new contract, though I'm
Speaker 1: not totally sure he'll be on his team next year.
Speaker 1: This is the final years we are overdue for some
Speaker 1: more trash takes. Patrick clay Von all Right, let's move
Speaker 1: on to Chris Wesling and his favorite football team. I
Speaker 1: know you're gonna this sounds like homerism, and it sounds
Speaker 1: like I'm biased, But when you look at the rosters
Speaker 1: in the NFL, I can point to the Colts as
Speaker 1: the only one where I can say I don't see
Speaker 1: a weakness. And not only do I not see a weakness,
Speaker 1: I don't see an important player who's not in his prime.
Speaker 1: They don't have a single player in decline. Marcus Hunt
Speaker 1: is the oldest starter, and he's coming off a career
Speaker 1: year in which he flashed dominance for games at a time.
Speaker 1: That's an interesting way to put it, ball shared, you know,
Speaker 1: but you're right, it's it's your ball shared. Also coming
Speaker 1: off one of the best seasons of his career. It's uh,
Speaker 1: it's really interesting to me that you're now not only
Speaker 1: just embracing being a Colts fan, you're like getting ahead
Speaker 1: of us accusing you of homerism, like you're from Indianapolis,
Speaker 1: you wear the hat. Ten minutes ago, you called the
Speaker 1: Steelers a powerhouse team and did not name the Colts
Speaker 1: as an a f C powerhouse when the Colts have
Speaker 1: a much better roster now, just in there just cults
Speaker 1: lest is like pulling up the banner like wild card
Speaker 1: win or two. I mean, yeah, tell me what's wrong
Speaker 1: with the roster. You're feeling different definitely when they scored
Speaker 1: three points in Kansas City or and since then they've
Speaker 1: added let's see justin Houston, Devon funches about six incredible
Speaker 1: athletes on defense. Um, they're they're forced to be reckoned. Well,
Speaker 1: that's the thing about having great success in your first
Speaker 1: season is it's so hard to get continuity in the
Speaker 1: NFL that that's like instant continuity. You have the same
Speaker 1: coaching staff, you have almost all the same players, and
Speaker 1: that's like a great window to go make some no
Speaker 1: before anything gets broken up. Our boy, Evan Silva, the
Speaker 1: big fish over at Rodal World, handed out one a
Speaker 1: grade um for the draft in the a f C.
Speaker 1: And it was to our friend Chris Ballard. Silva is
Speaker 1: a tough grader. And you know what that is. That
Speaker 1: tells you two things. One that somebody has plugged in
Speaker 1: as knowledgeable as Evan saw the moves that Ballard made,
Speaker 1: you know, moving up and down the board, maximizing his
Speaker 1: assets and and and pulling in a great hall including
Speaker 1: Rocky of Sin come to Las Vegas the second round
Speaker 1: pick at thirty four, and also how ballard stock is
Speaker 1: just so high. People give this guy the benefit of
Speaker 1: doubt because of what he was able to do last year,
Speaker 1: especially the way that those draft picks played out, and
Speaker 1: so a lot of the guys you look down the
Speaker 1: list and it's like, oh, we'll rock you Sin. I'd
Speaker 1: like him somewhere else, but Chris Ballard likes him. Oh well, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is great. This is a great draft. So there's
Speaker 1: plenty of reasons. So we's a team with no and
Speaker 1: it's way too early to do prediction predictions for the
Speaker 1: season and all that, but a team with no discernible laws,
Speaker 1: you have to be looking at them. Even in a
Speaker 1: very competitive AFC South, you see them as a heavy
Speaker 1: favorite to win that division, right, I absolutely do. I
Speaker 1: think the Texans are just treading water and the Cults
Speaker 1: are getting a lot better. And I think the Titans
Speaker 1: got better than the Texans got. It's a really good division.
Speaker 1: I think they really hope the second round pick Binagu
Speaker 1: works out because they don't have edge rushers. I mean,
Speaker 1: justin Houston should help there too. They could add a
Speaker 1: running back to a veteran running back sports real original
Speaker 1: next Shawn McCoy, perhaps us that willould that hurt you. No,
Speaker 1: I would not root for the Colt tip Leshan McCoy was,
Speaker 1: all right, Well that is that I'm being I cannot
Speaker 1: root for all right, let's move on to the Jacksonville's
Speaker 1: Jaguars finished last place in the UFC South last year,
Speaker 1: but everything is looking great now for the Jags. The
Speaker 1: Raiders made that surprise move. It for um uh taking
Speaker 1: um cle Cleland Farrell keep forgetting the name the Giants
Speaker 1: course take Jones. So then the Jags get this absolute
Speaker 1: stud Josh Allen falls into their laps at six, they
Speaker 1: grab them. It's been it was another positive and what's
Speaker 1: been a big season of positives, offseason of positives for Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: Everything about this team west and this is where we
Speaker 1: need to talk about this. To me, everything about this
Speaker 1: Jaguars team screams big bounce back season all enjoys. The defense,
Speaker 1: loaded with talent Nick Fole, should stabilize things behind center.
Speaker 1: The offensive line is very good and uh running back,
Speaker 1: maybe there's some things to work out there, thank you.
Speaker 1: And I do not see I I on their offensive line. Okay,
Speaker 1: which I think is easily the worst. I don't maybe
Speaker 1: not easily the worst because of the Texans, but it's
Speaker 1: one of the worst in the AFC. Okay, barring injury
Speaker 1: or some type of internal discord or West's viewpoint on
Speaker 1: the offensive line is correct. Uh, this team to me
Speaker 1: screams eleven and five and a hard out in January
Speaker 1: and an absolute um competitive for that a f C
Speaker 1: South title. I think the offensive line is an issue,
Speaker 1: and I think playmakers in the passing game is an issue.
Speaker 1: They had some of the worst wide receiver play in
Speaker 1: the NFL last year. Show me the tight end. Who's
Speaker 1: gonna make a play on this team? They they need
Speaker 1: a little juice and you're counting on Folds and de
Speaker 1: Filippo to generate it. And that's the most important part
Speaker 1: of any team to me, is their passing game. And
Speaker 1: so that's the question. I'm not worried about the offensive
Speaker 1: Like Kim Robinson's a great left tackle, He's not he
Speaker 1: got hurt from He's a He's one of the ten
Speaker 1: or eleven best I think that doesn't have left tackles.
Speaker 1: He's solid. Jowahn Taylor at thirty five overall from Florida.
Speaker 1: That's another guy you can plug and play. I'm worried.
Speaker 1: I'm a little worried about there. It's some someone's gonna
Speaker 1: be a huge disappointment in this division. Last year was
Speaker 1: the Jet because they're all they all have a lot
Speaker 1: of reason to believe their playoff teams. Cam Cam had
Speaker 1: a solid rookie year. He struggled in the playoffs. He
Speaker 1: had that shoulder injury of James Harrison was giving them
Speaker 1: all kounds of work. Uh in the Patriots game. Um,
Speaker 1: but there was a noticeable drop off when Camp absolutely
Speaker 1: last year and so now they they had j Wan Taylor.
Speaker 1: A lot of people thought he was the best tackle
Speaker 1: in the draft. Um, they're able to get him at
Speaker 1: thirty five, and rookie tackles almost always struggle before they
Speaker 1: turn it around. Yeah, but he doesn't have to play.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have to play on the left. Camp can
Speaker 1: can handle that. You can start out on the right. Others.
Speaker 1: You know, the reason to feel better about the line
Speaker 1: than last year for net is such a big, big
Speaker 1: factor because you know, you take a guy that high,
Speaker 1: you think he's going to give you a huge advantage,
Speaker 1: and he was not even league average. You know he
Speaker 1: was below average as a starter, so it's like, what
Speaker 1: Leonard for Nette are you getting? Normally, I'm not that
Speaker 1: concerned about the running back situation. Figure like the team
Speaker 1: around it's more important. But in this case, like he's
Speaker 1: such a wild card. Absolutely, So you're trending everything negative
Speaker 1: for the Jacks and everything positive for the culture. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not. The Jaguars have a very strong defense, and
Speaker 1: I like the quarterback. I just don't mean question mark,
Speaker 1: what do you like at wide receiver, tight end, an
Speaker 1: offensive line on these two regular I had answers for
Speaker 1: everything you just said, but we're out of time. Sorry, West,
Speaker 1: moving on to the kids City Chiefs. Excuse me my mistake.
Speaker 1: What a fool to Houston Texans. You know I just
Speaker 1: said that one one or two of these teams gonna
Speaker 1: have to be a letdown. It's a tough, tough division,
Speaker 1: tough out of division schedule. Could it be the Texans?
Speaker 1: My biggest concern is just how important Titus Howard and
Speaker 1: Max Sharping, their two first picks in this draft, are
Speaker 1: to this team. So this is just a team that
Speaker 1: needs their first two picks, both on the offensive line.
Speaker 1: Howard will play you know one of the tackle spots,
Speaker 1: sharping the guard. They need to come in and solidify it.
Speaker 1: And I don't have a ton of faith in that,
Speaker 1: just because the coaching has proven to not be able
Speaker 1: to coach the offensive line five years running. So you're
Speaker 1: counting on rookies, and you're counting on guys like Will
Speaker 1: Fuller to stay healthy and Lamar Miller and and there's
Speaker 1: just a lot of questions where if something doesn't go
Speaker 1: right right at the top, then it gets ugly fast.
Speaker 1: This seems to be the popular pick. If when you
Speaker 1: are saying who's gonna be the disappointment, people seem to
Speaker 1: be pointing at the Texans as that team. Um, they've
Speaker 1: been fairly consistent in the Bill O'Brien era. You've been
Speaker 1: really really they had one bad year, yeah, of kind
Speaker 1: of playing up to their potential or near their potential.
Speaker 1: So it would be a break from how they have
Speaker 1: been under this current regime. He he has four in
Speaker 1: five seasons, he's out a winning record four times, and
Speaker 1: they're coming off in eleven win season. So I don't
Speaker 1: blame them for you got you have Deshaun Watson. You're
Speaker 1: gonna think that you're in the mix as a big
Speaker 1: time contender. Well, I think when you have the Shawn
Speaker 1: Watson and DeAndre Hopkins, J J. Watt, g Deevion Clowney,
Speaker 1: those guys can carry the team if they get hot,
Speaker 1: they can carry the team for for weeks at a time.
Speaker 1: So I don't write them off just because I think
Speaker 1: the Colts got better. I just think the Texans are
Speaker 1: about what they were last year and it might not
Speaker 1: be good enough in an improved division. And we've seen
Speaker 1: them hurt so many times that I think that aids
Speaker 1: in the perception that they're thin. It's like, oh, they're
Speaker 1: always one injury away from going to the tank. Whether
Speaker 1: it's cooler to an extent, going down really hurt the
Speaker 1: offense last. But they are thin at the skill positions.
Speaker 1: You know, they have Deshaun Watson and DeAndre Hopkins, and
Speaker 1: then after that, Fuller is the third best skill position
Speaker 1: player and he's heard a lot and then the four
Speaker 1: who is their fourth? A lot of teams right now, yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess it's Lamar Miller, But a lot of teams
Speaker 1: right now have four or five six different kind of weapons.
Speaker 1: They don't really have that sort of depth and looking
Speaker 1: at the tackle, they take Howard out of Alabama State early,
Speaker 1: um and people see him as a project tackle. What
Speaker 1: if they don't see him as a project tackle? But
Speaker 1: I don't think they. If they have a plan in
Speaker 1: place for him, he's not going to do a whole
Speaker 1: lot out of his outside. The perception was that how
Speaker 1: he rose and banged him by trading right in front
Speaker 1: of him and taking um Andre Andre Dillard. So Titus
Speaker 1: and he's from a small school. Maybe not the same
Speaker 1: level of prospect, but maybe he's a star. If he's
Speaker 1: backing up Sean Trelle Henderson, They're going to be disappointed
Speaker 1: if Matt Khalil is starting Week one. Just in general,
Speaker 1: he's special, almost a little bit forgotten, how specially is
Speaker 1: with all the emergency quarterbacks. Alright, last division in the
Speaker 1: a f C. Patrick Claibn, get us going with the
Speaker 1: hometown Chargers. All right, I'm gonna pay a picture for you, guys.
Speaker 1: A weathered Philip Rivers sits on the field months after
Speaker 1: a loss in Gelette Stadium, the eventual Super Bowl champions,
Speaker 1: already celebrating yet again as he watched from the field,
Speaker 1: thinking of his actual vengeance plan, an army of his
Speaker 1: own children set about on the destruction of all of
Speaker 1: New England. He's in the Satesler chair waiting for one button,
Speaker 1: his signal. He'd soldered it onto his helmet communicator months ago.
Speaker 1: He could usher in a new age, an age where
Speaker 1: the chaos was replaced with order injustice purged in the
Speaker 1: pursuit of honor, a ledger of failure wiped clean in
Speaker 1: a sweeping success. But as he reaches for the button,
Speaker 1: a hand reaches down to him. It's Tom to LESCo,
Speaker 1: standing there with Thomas Davis and the seer Adderly. He says,
Speaker 1: one more job, Phil, one more ride, and that's what
Speaker 1: this is for the Chargers. One more ride. Interesting, let's
Speaker 1: do it. So there's you believe And that was beautiful
Speaker 1: by the way I mean I had to get around
Speaker 1: plase Um. You believe there's an urgency in that building,
Speaker 1: and I feel like urgency would be something. Patrick Claybann
Speaker 1: is not big on the idea of this team, knows
Speaker 1: this is the time that can end up a trash take.
Speaker 1: But is there an urgency around the Rivers led Chargers
Speaker 1: at this stage. I I feel, through the acquisitions and
Speaker 1: the guys assembled on the team um that this this
Speaker 1: is the shot. This is a legitimate shot, I believe.
Speaker 1: I think everybody has seen what this team can do.
Speaker 1: There's no reason not to believe. And what's the future.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what the future is. Future is now.
Speaker 1: But they're on line. Was their their biggest problem down
Speaker 1: the stretch last year, and they really didn't address that
Speaker 1: at all. They took a third round pick Trey Pitkins,
Speaker 1: didn't do much in free agency, and so that's my fear.
Speaker 1: But to what I was saying earlier about continuity, it's
Speaker 1: hard to keep teams together. And you're right, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of town on this team, and this feels like
Speaker 1: last year and this year is their prime time to
Speaker 1: get it done before all these contracts come up at
Speaker 1: Rivers gets too old or both to get you know,
Speaker 1: whatever it is. There's a lot going on to that
Speaker 1: same point that the Chargers are bringing back up a
Speaker 1: badass nucleus twelve win team, uh, twelve win team. And
Speaker 1: then you look at the other superpowers. The Chiefs are
Speaker 1: going through a lot of stuff. When we're gonna get
Speaker 1: to them in a in a minute. Um, the Patriots,
Speaker 1: obviously they're they're trying to figure some things out. The Steelers.
Speaker 1: The window is there. The Colts, obviously, West are on
Speaker 1: the rise. But I'm saying the windows all about the Colts.
Speaker 1: Believe me, Yeah, that the windows there for this this
Speaker 1: Charger team, there's no doubt about it. Well. I think
Speaker 1: the defense got quite a bit better in the offseason.
Speaker 1: The offense is questionable. They do get Hunter Henry Back,
Speaker 1: who was having a very promising start to his career
Speaker 1: before he missed last season. Then they also lost Tyrell Williams.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's a that's a push, But I agree with Greg.
Speaker 1: The right side of this offensive line is the issue,
Speaker 1: and it was a major issue down the stretch last
Speaker 1: year when they went into town and in circling back
Speaker 1: to the Rivers children, I guess just as a representative
Speaker 1: someone that grew up in new you know wait, you
Speaker 1: got none of them are over eighteen, Most of them
Speaker 1: are under ten years old. We'll take you on Rivers children.
Speaker 1: Bring Those are the children you know about bringing words
Speaker 1: by a man about to be overrun by a bunch
Speaker 1: of elementary school children. Wes move us into Denver. John
Speaker 1: Elway was up against it. He's been up against the
Speaker 1: last two years where it looked like he had to
Speaker 1: nail the last two rookie classes in order to avoid
Speaker 1: a full scale rebuild reconstruction, and after the two thousand
Speaker 1: eighteen draft class was one of the most impressive in
Speaker 1: the NFL, and this one looks to be pretty promising
Speaker 1: as well. I think he now has a chance to
Speaker 1: pull it off. Like driving a tractor through a needle.
Speaker 1: I think he might have done it. It all depends
Speaker 1: on Lock and Flacco. But the roster looks much better
Speaker 1: now to me, and it did a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: M hmm. How about on defense? That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: The defense isn't an issue at all. The only thing
Speaker 1: that needed to be reconstructive was the offense. The offensive
Speaker 1: line looks better to me. He picked up Juwan James
Speaker 1: and um the center guard they got in the second
Speaker 1: round Risner, I think to me, that looks much better.
Speaker 1: Hopefully he's able to navigate Chris Harris's desires to paid
Speaker 1: um to the level of his ability um because if
Speaker 1: if he's able to be back um potentially a long
Speaker 1: term because being one of the best cornerbacks in the
Speaker 1: NFL not getting paid like it for several years, that's
Speaker 1: that's that'd be my only concern that it's a great
Speaker 1: point because we haven't really talked about Chris Harris's trade request.
Speaker 1: They sounded like they wanted to trade him. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's very rare that John Elway that a GM is
Speaker 1: talking on the podium about how he's looking for offers
Speaker 1: and he didn't really get many calls this or that.
Speaker 1: They sounded pretty open, and I think it's to their
Speaker 1: credit that they're not it's going to give Chris Harris away,
Speaker 1: and it'd be crazy too. And he's coming off a
Speaker 1: broken leg, and I think that's probably White teams didn't
Speaker 1: jump on a chance to go get him. And I
Speaker 1: mentioned the Saturday I'll say it again though, that I
Speaker 1: really like the Lock move Drew Lock in the second
Speaker 1: round um going up to get him and gives them
Speaker 1: a little bit of flexibility because maybe Joe Flacco is
Speaker 1: revitalized in a new and new surroundings and has a
Speaker 1: nice year, and this is a playoff team probably if
Speaker 1: that happens. But if he isn't good, or if he
Speaker 1: gets hurt, which has happened as well in recent years,
Speaker 1: you now have a kid you could turn to and
Speaker 1: maybe he can play a little bit so you kind
Speaker 1: of doubled your chances. You're not boxed in at quarterback.
Speaker 1: Interesting team, the Broncos. I feel like they have a
Speaker 1: wide range of outcomes this season. It takes the draft,
Speaker 1: and this is very true that the Broncos in this
Speaker 1: case for me to do at least now that I'm old,
Speaker 1: there like it's the time when I'm first excited, like
Speaker 1: I want to go see this team. Now, I'm excited
Speaker 1: to go see this team next year. Like the draft
Speaker 1: is that moment where okay, the rafters are together. Now
Speaker 1: I'm like starting to get ready to say goodbye to
Speaker 1: my family and and enjoy the two thousand nineteen sets.
Speaker 1: Does Joe Flacco like that fire for you? Now? It's
Speaker 1: not really Flacco so much, although I'm curious, like I'm
Speaker 1: certainly more curious to watch him with Keenan. I'm with West.
Speaker 1: He was playing fairly well at the beginning. I don't
Speaker 1: think he necessarily is a bump if he's supported any
Speaker 1: other thoughts. I want to know what you guys think
Speaker 1: the Broncos. Are they gonna be a like eight and
Speaker 1: eight team? Are they gonna be a tenant six team? Six?
Speaker 1: And sorry, I mean I could see tenant six. I
Speaker 1: could see six and ten too tough with the position.
Speaker 1: I see a squad that's looking for one giving me.
Speaker 1: I'm giving him all right. Let's move on to the
Speaker 1: defending UM Division champion, Kansas City Chiefs. Um. The Chiefs
Speaker 1: survived the loss of Cream Hunt even thrived without a
Speaker 1: Hunt Hunt. Um. But Tyreek Hills possible slash, probable slash,
Speaker 1: inevitable exit from Kansas City will really test Andy Reid. Uh,
Speaker 1: and that that entire organization. Then again, there's this this
Speaker 1: other side of it, and and a lot of it
Speaker 1: starts with Patrick Gohoans his greatness and and are we
Speaker 1: just scraping the ceiling? How of how good this guy
Speaker 1: could be? Uh? And perhaps he turns the Georgia wide
Speaker 1: receiver hardman. Maybe he is instantly a Pro Bowl producer.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's how good Patrick Mahomes is. Maybe they did
Speaker 1: a good job in their scouting and bringing in a
Speaker 1: guy that can make an instant a plug and play
Speaker 1: Clay Bond type. Um. The defense is undergone a very
Speaker 1: public makeover. Uh. The offense is shedding playmakers. But I
Speaker 1: still feel good about the Chiefs and I and I
Speaker 1: know there are a hundred reasons that you could point
Speaker 1: to why you should be down on the cheese right now.
Speaker 1: But Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes, outside of Bell Chick and
Speaker 1: Brady Uh, there isn't another head coach quarterback combination. I
Speaker 1: trust more to see things through um rocky times and uncertainty.
Speaker 1: And that's why I still think the Chiefs should be
Speaker 1: very much viewed as a powerhouse with super Bowl winning potential.
Speaker 1: I agree, I mean, and I would take in terms
Speaker 1: of schematic advantage and quarterback talent, there's no in betting right,
Speaker 1: I'd take Reading Mahomes over anyone. I mean, Read, it's
Speaker 1: just so clear has provided a game plan advantage against
Speaker 1: his opponents the last couple of years. And Mahomes, you
Speaker 1: just listening to him at the Owners mean you get
Speaker 1: the sense Read feels like he's just starting that process
Speaker 1: of what he can do. The most important skill position player,
Speaker 1: the most important non quarterback in the NFL, according to
Speaker 1: Sean Payton and Drew Brees last year was Tyreek Hill
Speaker 1: and the spacing he gives this offense. I I have
Speaker 1: no idea what me Nicole Hardman is going to be,
Speaker 1: but Tyreek Hill is is if he's not playing that's
Speaker 1: a devastating loss for them, And as far as an
Speaker 1: offense and being explosive, that was kind of a pitnacle
Speaker 1: right Like it's it's tough to think that they will
Speaker 1: be better than that in any capacity, especially if if
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill is not there. But if they're anywhere close
Speaker 1: and the defense is better than they're a contender. So
Speaker 1: that's that's the question defensive rebuild is going to have
Speaker 1: to take. And it doesn't have to make They don't
Speaker 1: have to be a top ten defense, but they have
Speaker 1: to be the middle of the road offense. And then
Speaker 1: it's up to Read and Mahomes and the rest of
Speaker 1: the coaching staff and who's there now uh to make
Speaker 1: it work on offense. I just what I guess what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is it's one of those popular buzzy subplots
Speaker 1: of every offseason. This one, to me, one of them is,
Speaker 1: Oh the Chiefs are in trouble now and I get it,
Speaker 1: and West is absolutely right how important Tyreek Hill is.
Speaker 1: I just think this team is going to figure it out.
Speaker 1: It might take some time, but I just trust them
Speaker 1: too well. They need so panic is not on the
Speaker 1: menu for me. They need Sammy Watkins to to jump
Speaker 1: up make an impact. I kind of like some of
Speaker 1: the defensive moves they made, the very quiet ones the
Speaker 1: oak for and Emmanuel Hagba and Bashad Brian. Just like
Speaker 1: getting guys in there that are okay enough for very
Speaker 1: little money. Keenan Allen still laughing at the second. See
Speaker 1: how important the scheme is. All right, close it out
Speaker 1: with the Oakland Raiders. Greg, A lot of times you
Speaker 1: need you hear people talk about, Okay, there's a big
Speaker 1: year for Derek Carr. They put a lot of weapons
Speaker 1: around them. Um, it's the new regime. He's got to
Speaker 1: prove himself this and that. How about it's a big
Speaker 1: year for John Gruden. Like that? I to see can
Speaker 1: John Gruden adapt and be a two thousand and nineteen
Speaker 1: difference maker because to me, the roster that they have,
Speaker 1: there shouldn't be any excuses for them to be at
Speaker 1: bottom tier offense. Antonio Brown, Tyrolle Williams. Maybe it's on
Speaker 1: the renfro their fifth round pick as a slot receiver
Speaker 1: that's allowed to ask a fifth round pick. But either way,
Speaker 1: they're deep enough at receiver. They're deep enough at running
Speaker 1: back with Josh Jacobs their first round pick. You have
Speaker 1: a guy in Derek Carr who's played a lot of
Speaker 1: games and now he's in the prime of his career.
Speaker 1: He's getting paid like it. The offensive lineman that they
Speaker 1: brought in are highly paid Trent Brown or highly drafted
Speaker 1: Colton Miller, or like all pro type guys like Rodney Hudson,
Speaker 1: Gabe Jackson's a very good like you should be a
Speaker 1: good offense John Gruden like and and I do have
Speaker 1: questions whether John Gruden is an advantage is an asset
Speaker 1: in two thousand and nineteen. I think this year will
Speaker 1: give us a good view of that. I think this
Speaker 1: offensive line could be sneaky, trash. I I I worry
Speaker 1: if I was a Raiders fan. I was if I
Speaker 1: was a Raiders stay and I would be worried about
Speaker 1: that too. But they certainly have we Colton Miller can play, No,
Speaker 1: I mean he struggled last year. Are we sure Denzel
Speaker 1: Good should be starting a guard? No? I mean that's
Speaker 1: one spot that is definitely a weakness there. And I
Speaker 1: think this defense too, was not one draft away from
Speaker 1: being good. They were two or three drafts away from
Speaker 1: being respectable. M They've They've put a lot into the
Speaker 1: drafts on on defense. You know, they get Cleveland Ferrell,
Speaker 1: they get John at the neighbor, and they get Trayvon
Speaker 1: Mall and that's three of the top forty picks in
Speaker 1: the draft on one defense. So like they're looking for
Speaker 1: an instant impact. This was not a one year rebuild
Speaker 1: or maybe even a two year rebuild. The question I
Speaker 1: guess I have is what would define success for the
Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders in twenty nineteen. To have an offensive identity
Speaker 1: would be enough for me. And that might even just
Speaker 1: be being the middle of the pack, but that would
Speaker 1: be a huge improvement. And I think seeing some of
Speaker 1: these young players come through. How about finding out that
Speaker 1: Derek Carr is in fact a franchise quarterback. That would
Speaker 1: be a good year for the Raiders. Which would be
Speaker 1: crazy to have somebody be anointed as a franchise quarterback
Speaker 1: twice in their career. He needs to be re anointed.
Speaker 1: We need to know and if he if he does
Speaker 1: not take it to the next level or he regresses,
Speaker 1: the Raiders are going to make a big play for
Speaker 1: a quarterback next year. So that's something to keep an
Speaker 1: eye on. I was thinking he's he is a candidate
Speaker 1: for the Dalton scale right now, because I don't think
Speaker 1: you're looking at Derek Carton. Stay made him the Dalton
Speaker 1: line one year, didn't we? I don't think so. It's
Speaker 1: always been Dalton scale, got it, Alex Smith, It's always
Speaker 1: been you, and but Dalton is the one and true hero. Um.
Speaker 1: I will mention here because he's a man who's opinion
Speaker 1: we respect. Move the sticks said during the draft telcast
Speaker 1: that he sees Hunter Renfroese a guy they could plug
Speaker 1: in this year and get you whoa bros? You like sports?
Speaker 1: Real original? Next, there is no next. You please shut
Speaker 1: all talk and you just ramble on that no one
Speaker 1: gives a flying about Just shut up. That's fair. Why
Speaker 1: do you need to play a recording? Why can't you
Speaker 1: just say that into the mic? Um? All right, good job,
Speaker 1: great job. That is it. We just went around the
Speaker 1: a f C and exactly forty eight minutes close. It
Speaker 1: was a fun Patrick came in here, we plugged in
Speaker 1: and he played well. He did more than play well.
Speaker 1: I would like to think you got on base. He
Speaker 1: went first to third on a single, scored three runs.
Speaker 1: Just let me be six Man of the Year. He
Speaker 1: swung at that first pitch of the game and popped
Speaker 1: out the second. But then after that you got on
Speaker 1: base twice, even a nice play in the field. Shortage
Speaker 1: of bodies that he didn't have anybody else to put in,
Speaker 1: so I had to stay in the line up, and
Speaker 1: you know I produced later in the game after the
Speaker 1: initial failure, your regular Zach Duke. I mean, that didn't
Speaker 1: work for a variety some just inflames. It's just some
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Red's relief. Sure that that I'm like worried about
Speaker 1: his safety. Zack Duke's safety, not West's. Other West is
Speaker 1: hard at He's not gonna be on my radar soon
Speaker 1: because he's gonna be cut. I'm gonna I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: Emily to stay home for Western Lakisha's wedding, which is
Speaker 1: you know this month now, um well, effective tomorrow, and
Speaker 1: bring Zack Duke as my date, just to see what
Speaker 1: I don't I don't hate the man, he just doesn't
Speaker 1: belong on the Red. And then I'm gonna get Zack
Speaker 1: nice and drunk. He's a middling relief pitcher, former top
Speaker 1: prospect of a pirate's way back when years ago, and
Speaker 1: now he's a hot and cold middle reliever that West
Speaker 1: hates with the heat of Idellian burning sun. I don't
Speaker 1: hate him, but the man is carrying like an e
Speaker 1: r A of about eleven and the league is hitting
Speaker 1: three sixty off of him. He probably belongs in the
Speaker 1: minor league. This is what I would do. I would
Speaker 1: for the No One wants the Reds podcast. I would
Speaker 1: bring him to times was the best man at his
Speaker 1: wedding who that caps mats another reliever of Nationals fame.
Speaker 1: But bring him very nice man. I have no ill
Speaker 1: will towards. Team you up with him, get you nice
Speaker 1: and liquored up after the wedding, which I imagine happen
Speaker 1: like hanging out on and then you and Zach Duke
Speaker 1: team up in cornhole, all right, and then and then
Speaker 1: you'll change your opinion on the man. I like him,
Speaker 1: I just don't like on my team's roster. When you
Speaker 1: gotta get find a good partner after the losing streak
Speaker 1: that you started on, I'm not worried about it. Cesster
Speaker 1: not even here to defend himself, and you know he
Speaker 1: won't listen. I don't think he would have defended himself.
Speaker 1: I think there would have been a barbed shot back,
Speaker 1: which is my prediction. Um, all right, Patrick, thank you buddy,
Speaker 1: Thank you guys. We'll be back on Thursday with Colleen Wolf. Yes,
Speaker 1: the great Connie Fox sitting in the Mark chair. Uh
Speaker 1: to go around the NFC. A lot of pressure to
Speaker 1: live up to Patrick's well and play is Terry Rosey're
Speaker 1: a good enough Now, let's do it. He's playing well
Speaker 1: in the playoffs when he's been. He plays for Boston though,
Speaker 1: which sucks. But yeah, you know, he's more like a
Speaker 1: Vinny Microwave Johnson instant offense any Green. I think late
Speaker 1: stage the Microwave is on like my six man Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame. Yeah, all right, that's enough. This is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: All right. This is Dan hands Is signing off for
Speaker 1: Patrick Clay Band, Patrick Microwave, Clay, the Mailman, the old Boston,
Speaker 1: Ricky Hollywood behind the glass Juel Thursday. Well, I'll come.
Speaker 1: I had a lot going on there. M I had
Speaker 1: a burp that was coming up and I couldn't get
Speaker 1: rid of it, so it was stuck there. And then
Speaker 1: the frog. The burp and the frog. That's a false start.
Speaker 1: You can survive one or the other both at the
Speaker 1: same time. As I would take one tooting a crossfire there.
Speaker 1: I can't do both