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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast has the best rated mock dred.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis and I am joined in

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Speaker 1: the room filled with some heroes, Patrick Claiban, Chris Westling

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Speaker 1: and Greg Roseal what is up, boys? Hey, Dan, he's

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Speaker 1: our util he's our utility guy. Slight just to start,

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Speaker 1: not more than a slight. A utility guy. Um in baseball,

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Speaker 1: if you have a really jack of all trades type

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Speaker 1: talent that makes your roster so much better, and it's

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Speaker 1: an unsung hero of any championship squad. West I back

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Speaker 1: on this. It sounds like a bad term. That's fair,

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Speaker 1: but in reality, you're not winning championships without a super

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Speaker 1: utility guy who can plug it a lot of different positions.

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Speaker 1: If if I was trying to pump myself up, I

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Speaker 1: was kind of a utility guy for the Shield the year,

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Speaker 1: absolutely integral and who was celebrating at the end of

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Speaker 1: that season Shield? Well, when when we win the podcast championship,

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Speaker 1: just uh, you know, let me be in the orbit,

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Speaker 1: like when you guys are jumping up and down on

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Speaker 1: the mound, Like I'll be that guy that high fiving security. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I was here, allowed on the field. This is our

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Speaker 1: a tradition after the draft, are around the a f

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Speaker 1: C and around the NFC episodes and Claibon not his

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Speaker 1: first rodeo here. If one of us is out of

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Speaker 1: the studio, we could plug Patrick right in plug and

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Speaker 1: play guy. Now we're gonna switch to football plug and

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Speaker 1: play and who next man up? Everyone loves plug and play.

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Speaker 1: That's what you look for a plug and play guy. Well,

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Speaker 1: he's been sharpening his iron against other men's iron for

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Speaker 1: a lot of years. What else we got us? He's

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Speaker 1: joining He could join us for up to the minute hits,

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Speaker 1: which we might do on Wednesday and Thursday. It might

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Speaker 1: be a little pre tape, a little peek behind the curtain.

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Speaker 1: Tune into that. You don't have to tell him it's

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Speaker 1: a pre tape. Well, they would maybe somehow put it together.

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Speaker 1: There was at one time where I was here and

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Speaker 1: the show. Yeah, that's next level meta. Um. Anyway, So

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Speaker 1: Clay Brons here in the Mark Cessler chair. Mark is

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Speaker 1: wandering Los Angeles somewhere. I hope he's safe. I hope

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Speaker 1: he's watching out for trains. That's a little call forward.

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Speaker 1: Keep keep an eye out on Mark's been watching out

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Speaker 1: for trains for years now, hopping on the occasionally little

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Speaker 1: nail soup um. So yes, the draft is in the

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Speaker 1: rearview mirror, free agencies in the review mirror. We have

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Speaker 1: some offseason workouts to come, many mana mandatory mini camps,

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Speaker 1: then the summer break and then train again. Listen, it's

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Speaker 1: just it never stops. But after the draft comes a

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Speaker 1: chance to reset things and take a look at where

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Speaker 1: these teams are. And that's why we picked this time

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Speaker 1: of year, this time of year and also right before

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Speaker 1: Week one GREG to do the round the a f

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Speaker 1: C and around the NFC, around all of these teams,

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Speaker 1: get an idea of what's going on where we think

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Speaker 1: they are right now. Some of my favorite shows of

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Speaker 1: the clock when the clock strikes zero three minutes on

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Speaker 1: every team, what happens, Ricky, Hollywood that that doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: celebrator party or fist pump. Not to mention this is

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Speaker 1: don't spend at least ten minutes on Dave Gettleman and

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Speaker 1: the giants. So that's that's like a positive. Well we

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Speaker 1: think that he could find uh for sure? All right?

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Speaker 1: Do we want to do anyone? Dig right in? Alright? Patrick?

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Speaker 1: Are you ready? I'm ready? Do we want the takeaway

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Speaker 1: take it. It is your three minutes. Well really it's

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Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, by takeaway to the Dolphins fans who

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Speaker 1: any NFL team can tank. It's not the NBA. You

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Speaker 1: the roster is depleted, the entire team and the quarterback

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Speaker 1: is simply an afterthought. And I think you could say

427
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Speaker 1: they're surrounding talent. Now, if Jonah Williams can stick at

428
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:07,919
Speaker 1: left tackle, or if they stick Glenn at left tack,

429
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,400
Speaker 1: one put him at right tackle. If he can stick

430
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,880
Speaker 1: at tackle, this has a chance to be their best

431
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 1: offensive roster since two thousand fift get an approach that

432
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 1: level of success, you think. I just think there's too

433
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 1: many question marks. The two fifteen roster had answers. This

434
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 1: one just has a lot of questions. Well, to me,

435
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 1: A J. Green is not a question. Tyler Boyd's not

436
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 1: a question. Corty Glennett left tackle, if he's healthy, that's

437
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 1: not a question. That's a huge question because he isn't

438
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 1: even played well that is, but at least it's a talent.

439
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 1: Tyler Effort's a big question. And then mixing, mixing and

440
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 1: g oh, that's not much of a question. This is

441
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 1: a pretty locked and loaded I'm with you skill position group. Yeah,

442
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 1: the offensive line is the question a lot of people

443
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 1: when you see John Ross and his lead up, that's

444
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 1: a question what he's had, people said. Even still, if

445
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: you put him in this twenty nineteen draft class, he

446
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 1: probably he might have been one of the first wide

447
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,159
Speaker 1: receivers off the board, just based on the things that

448
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 1: he could do, not just based on speed, because there's

449
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 1: plenty of people that could run, uh seeing glimpses from Ross,

450
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: but just the surrounds, the surroundings, as you mentioned it,

451
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 1: it's just a bad situation for other people. And did

452
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 1: they have a plan to address is out there that

453
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 1: say he can run routes that they say he's an

454
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 1: actual receiver and not just a speed merchant. Bengals don't

455
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Speaker 1: see him part of those truths though they didn't with

456
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Speaker 1: with keeping him necessarily this offseason. Well, it's just what

457
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: are they in love with? Mm hmm, Zach Taylor, I

458
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 1: mean the Bengals Duke Taban, they committed to it seems

459
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: like the loyalty they have a J and it's just like,

460
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 1: well a J is so good, Like what do we

461
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 1: I guess we just keep him. I think they're defining

462
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 1: trademarket loyalty. Their backfield is interesting. Uh. They have mixed

463
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 1: in of course, and Joe Bernard has been there for

464
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: a while now. They added somebody in the draft and

465
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 1: Trayvon Williams. Uh is everyone safe there the current cast?

466
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: I think so. They had to cut Mark Walton, the

467
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 1: guy they drafted in the fourth round last year to

468
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: play running back, because he got arrested three times between

469
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 1: the end of the season, and like the middle of

470
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,360
Speaker 1: Orange can't do that. Uh, loyalty is a good word

471
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Speaker 1: for it. They have more drafted players on their roster

472
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Speaker 1: than any team by far. There's more homegrown guys. I

473
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Speaker 1: think it was thirty nine. It was like six or

474
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: seven more than any other team in the NFL. And alright,

475
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers. So, all right, Pittsburgh, as we know,

476
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Speaker 1: did something very un Pittsburgh like on Draft Day. They

477
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Speaker 1: traded up. They got Devin Bush a tenth overall. It

478
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Speaker 1: is their first pick inside the top ten since who

479
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Speaker 1: Troy Palamon. No, they moved up to get palm All.

480
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if Black Scob Burris all those years

481
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: ago anyway, Um so Bush, he's supposed to be the

482
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Speaker 1: Ryan Shazier replacement, and god knows they've been looking for

483
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 1: that since Zer went down with that terrible injury. Uh.

484
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 1: They've used seventh straight first round picks on defensive players.

485
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: Um elsewhere from that draft. So they turned Antonio Brown

486
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: into Deonte Johnson uh, Toledo wide receiver at a tight

487
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 1: end Zach Gentry. We'll see how that all plays out.

488
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't jump out at you on paper necessarily. But

489
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Speaker 1: here's my question. Have the Steelers done enough after last

490
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: year's disappointment and disappointed for Pittsburgh's relative because nine six

491
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Speaker 1: and one, I'd love to see a nine six and

492
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: one uh for my team. But with the Steelers, when

493
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: you missed the playoffs, it's bad and they were quiet

494
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 1: and free agency as usual, they trade their best player. Uh.

495
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Speaker 1: Is it? I asked, is this still an a f

496
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Speaker 1: C powerhouse? And if that's a fair question, it's the

497
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: first time you could ask that in quite a long time.

498
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: I don't think they're a team that you put it

499
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: in ink that they're going to make the playoffs, whereas

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00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: I think in the last they were that team. I

501
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: think they're I would put them in in pencil so

502
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 1: it can be erased. But a guy like Deonte Johnson,

503
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 1: I read that the Steelers had a first round grade

504
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: on him, and I'm sorry. I trust the Steelers wide

505
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: receiver evaluations over any draft nick for anyone else in

506
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: the football community. The loss of Chaisier was something that

507
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 1: they never were able to recover from. And during this

508
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: entire run of dominance, it's been this offense carrying things

509
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: and as bad as the relationships were on that side

510
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: of the ball, they still produced and it was still

511
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: the defense that was chiefly responded. Blake Bortles goes in

512
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: there and they scored forty five points. Levian and Ben

513
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 1: and Antonio did everything they could so they could, they

514
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: couldn't overcome with Blake Portle's lead offense. Uh. And so

515
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 1: my question is is Bush enough to get you there?

516
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: And they've gone so long that Dan brought up without

517
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 1: picking highly in the draft, if that's if that's enough,

518
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: the defense is better, But is that enough to overcome

519
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 1: the fact that they lose a guy that's potentially go

520
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame if he didn't make too

521
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: many writers mad um and he's going either way. Yeah,

522
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: they've been terrible drafting in the secondary. They feel better

523
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: about it now. They added Mark Barron, who we haven't

524
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: talked about it all, was probably gonna start for them

525
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: inside linebacker along with bush Um. They there To answer

526
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: your initial question, Absolutely, they're a contender. I think they

527
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: were last year. I mean they were last two games

528
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: of the year. They beat the Patriots and lost by

529
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: a play like power against st Yes, I would put them.

530
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: I would put them with the Chiefs and the Chargers

531
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,959
Speaker 1: and the Patriots as the teams where I'd be surprised

532
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 1: if they don't make them. Then, Mike Tomins, this is

533
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: a big let's move on. Next up, Greg Cleveland Browns.

534
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: All right, We've talked so much again about the offense

535
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: on the Browns, and it was a quiet draft for

536
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: the offensive the brown So I just wanted to like

537
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: look at the defense and think how happy Steve Wilkes

538
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: might be. I feel like not a lot of Wilkes

539
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: pop coming off a pretty tough season. If if Wilkes

540
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 1: can come to get you know, if Wilkes can coach

541
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: up this team and he's been a good defensive coordinator before, Like,

542
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 1: where does this talent level match with the rest of

543
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: the league. Because to me, Myles Garrett, ogun Joby, Sheldon Richardson,

544
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: Olivier Vernon. They added uh, you know, Greedy Williams. In

545
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: the draft. They four of their first five picks were

546
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: on defense, to a group that had Curtsey, that had

547
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 1: Denzel Award, uh, that had a pretty solid secondary. A

548
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: nice trade they got with Damarius Randall. T J care Like,

549
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 1: this is deep. You go up and down and you

550
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: don't really see a weakness out of this defense. And

551
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: to me, there's a real chance that their defense is

552
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 1: as good or better than their offense with Baker Mayfiel.

553
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: They're feeling the moment. You can tell that John Dorsey

554
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: though Dell Beckham trade, he's feeling the moment. He's got

555
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: the quarterback, he's got the city behind him, he's got

556
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: the football world behind him. And now he's trying to

557
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: get Gerald McCoy too for his deep right, that would

558
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: that would be something else, and I think he would

559
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: make sense on that team as kind of a one

560
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: year that like if I was trying to find some

561
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: sort of weakness here, I don't know. I guess their

562
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: safeties and maybe their secondaries, not offensive line. Oh you're

563
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: talking about yeah, yeah, just on you you're right, Greg, Well,

564
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: Greg Robinson starting at left tackle stands out. I agree.

565
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: I think the biggest challenge, and this is not insignificant,

566
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: will be expectations and what and what's going to be

567
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: expected of a team that for years and years was

568
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: a total laughing stock. And even last year, um entering

569
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: the season, you know, hard knocks and all that they were,

570
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: people were still laughing at the Browns. This this will

571
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: be a totally different experience. Uh. And Freddie Kitchens, I

572
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: think is a huge piece of this too. How does

573
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: he handle it in his first year? But I agree

574
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: with all you guys, this is this is such a

575
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: good roster and everything's pointing in a very positive direction.

576
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: Brown But it's a new coaching staff. Even though Kitchens

577
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: is there, it's a it's a reminder it is a

578
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: new coaching staff. The offense. I mean, you got they

579
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: added Todd Monkin to to Freddie Kitchens. To me, that's

580
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: a huge win defensive coaching staff. Who knows, and perhaps

581
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: that might be it at a certain point. You have

582
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: a lot of chefs. Uh, you got some really good ingredients.

583
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: Well that was the last that was the problem with

584
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: the last person. Well, yeah, that was a lot of

585
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: chefs like trying to use the same night, trying to

586
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: poison each other. But there's a couple of them successful. Um,

587
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: I see a team that on the topic of expectations,

588
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: these guys are expected to win individually, um from Odell

589
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: two miles to like a lot of guys across the

590
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: board one on one situations, you expect them to win.

591
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: And so I don't think expectations are a problem. Is

592
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: just how they're going to execute and what the results

593
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: might be, what they do and who's how much is

594
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: better Baker gonna be? And I endorse that statement. Now

595
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: move on, alright, alright, let's let's pause. You got nobody

596
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: sees the Jarvis Landry Odell Beckham Junior friendship fallout that's

597
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: coming over targets. Nobody sees it, but it's coming. Mark

598
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: my words, all right, but you see it's coming. How

599
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: does that all right? I am right currently marking your words.

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00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: Mark the words. It will get off. They're not gonna

601
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: like each other anymore. Now they're gonna hate each other

602
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: and it will tear the cocker room apart. Um. I

603
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: want to talk about something serious though, guys. Uh, you

604
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: know a little pause here. It could be a little frustrating,

605
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: especially if you're in a hurry or running late to

606
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: find yourself at a railway crossing waiting for a train,

607
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: and if the signals are going and the train's not

608
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: even there yet, you can feel bit tempted to try

609
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: and sneak across the tracks. Well, don't ever know. I

610
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: want to show of hands here and including Erica behind

611
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: the glass. Has anyone done that the gates down the train?

612
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: You know acceptable time for the gate down train thirty

613
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: seconds for me. You start going past that, you hit

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00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: the minute mark. I'm sitting there like, no, this is

615
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: my time. You're messing with here? Who's done it? Be honest?

616
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: Done what? No? I just said? You got? You drive

617
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: through the around the gate because then a lot of

618
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: times there's not even at least the ones I'm thinking

619
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: of that I go through daily, you can't even get

620
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: around it. I've made a lot of bad decisions in

621
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: my life, incredible string of bad decisions all throughout my

622
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: twenties and thirties, But not once was I tempted to

623
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: gamble on a train smart West, because that's a bad

624
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: thing to do. Trains are going a lot faster than

625
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: you expect them to be. They can't stop. Did you know, Patrick,

626
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: did you know that when they when they conduct there

627
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: hits the brakes on a train takes how long to stop?

628
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: Give me a distance? I mean it takes a mile?

629
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: Bro straight up? Whoa, that's a long way anyway. So

630
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: don't do it. Don't be cute. If the signals are on,

631
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: the train is on its way, and you you just

632
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: need to remember one thing. Let's stop, just like Jervis

633
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: Landry Nodell Beckham when they're sniping back and forth over targets,

634
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: the Freddy Kitchens. Stop. You know what trains can't right.

635
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: I see you guys at the seventeen Street station in

636
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,719
Speaker 1: Santa Monica jumping over the tracks and making my son

637
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: want to do it. It's not worth a bad example,

638
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: but that is a terrible stern talking there every weekend

639
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: from Dr Money thousands of tonus, Dr Rainmaker. All right,

640
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: let's now dive back into it. Let's go around the

641
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: other half of the A f C. Starting Patrick Claybourne

642
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: with the Yes a f C South. I'm all fired

643
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: up about these Tennessee Titans. Um starting right off with

644
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: that first pick. Jeffrey Simmons It tells me something about

645
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: John Robinson and Amy Adams drunk and what this team

646
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: struggle and how this franchise is going to position itself.

647
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: They're playing the long game because Simmons might not be

648
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: able to play in two thousand and nineteen. Um this

649
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: is a guy that might not even get on the

650
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: field until himself at the start of all season preparation

651
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: getting ready for the draft. He tears his a c

652
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: l um and they've they're committed to the future. That's

653
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: that's only something you can do if you feel confident

654
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: in your ability to still have your job. Um. So

655
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: they are able to get a J. Brown, They've got

656
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: an opportunity to get him Money Hooker, a guy who

657
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: a lot of people felt could have gone higher. They

658
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: get him in the fourth round, a defensive back of Iowa.

659
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,239
Speaker 1: Um So they have value in this draft. And people think, oh,

660
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: you know the same old Titans. Well, it's hard to win,

661
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: it's hard to win football games. They've been in contention

662
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: late in years and and there's just that little something

663
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: and Jeffrey Simmons might be that guy. Daniel Jeremiah and

664
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks said, five years down the road, if somebody

665
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: says that Jeffrey Simmons was the best player in the

666
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen draft, they would not be surprised. I think

667
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: that they're permitted to the long game in Tennessee. Well,

668
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 1: they won five games over a course of two seasons

669
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: in fourteen and fifteen, and they've won nine per season since.

670
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: But you look at the defense and you don't see

671
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: other than Durrell Casey guys that make a huge difference.

672
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: So Simmons hopefully can be that for them, even if

673
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: it's not this year. Well, I look at that offense,

674
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: like you said, they went nine and seven, and out

675
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: of necessity, they leaned really heavily on Derrick Henry down

676
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: the stretch. They just didn't have the firepower in their

677
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: passing game. And since the end of the last season,

678
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 1: you welcome back to Laney Walker, who's a Pro Bowl

679
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: tight end and missed virtually the entire season. You add

680
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: an excellent slot receiver in Adam Humphries, and then you

681
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 1: add a j Brown in the second round as a playmaker,

682
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: and this Mariota has got probably more weapons than he's

683
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,959
Speaker 1: ever had. I think there's no doubt about that. We've

684
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 1: talked about it a lot Mariota how important this season

685
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: is for him, Ryan Tannehill right behind him. I wonder

686
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: if Mariota could can afford a slow start in September,

687
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: how long would his leash be if the if Tennessee

688
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: got off to a slow start on offense. I can't

689
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: imagine him getting benched while healthy almost at all, maybe

690
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: until December, you know, unless things really went out off

691
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: the tracks. But that that's just me because I just

692
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: don't think they'll see Tannehill as like some savior, and

693
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: nobody does. It's not like there's gonna be some massive

694
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 1: fan clamoring for Ryan Tannehill anywhere. To me, it's more

695
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: just a smart plan for the eventuality of Mariota missing

696
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: a game, which seems to happen at least you know,

697
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: once a season. Well, it sinks. It sinks playoff chances

698
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,720
Speaker 1: when he misses a game or two, because they traditionally

699
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 1: had some of the worst backup quarterback play in the league.

700
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: He might be playing for a new contract, though I'm

701
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: not totally sure he'll be on his team next year.

702
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: This is the final years we are overdue for some

703
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: more trash takes. Patrick clay Von all Right, let's move

704
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: on to Chris Wesling and his favorite football team. I

705
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: know you're gonna this sounds like homerism, and it sounds

706
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 1: like I'm biased, But when you look at the rosters

707
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 1: in the NFL, I can point to the Colts as

708
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: the only one where I can say I don't see

709
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: a weakness. And not only do I not see a weakness,

710
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: I don't see an important player who's not in his prime.

711
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,919
Speaker 1: They don't have a single player in decline. Marcus Hunt

712
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: is the oldest starter, and he's coming off a career

713
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: year in which he flashed dominance for games at a time.

714
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: That's an interesting way to put it, ball shared, you know,

715
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: but you're right, it's it's your ball shared. Also coming

716
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: off one of the best seasons of his career. It's uh,

717
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: it's really interesting to me that you're now not only

718
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: just embracing being a Colts fan, you're like getting ahead

719
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: of us accusing you of homerism, like you're from Indianapolis,

720
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: you wear the hat. Ten minutes ago, you called the

721
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: Steelers a powerhouse team and did not name the Colts

722
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 1: as an a f C powerhouse when the Colts have

723
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: a much better roster now, just in there just cults

724
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: lest is like pulling up the banner like wild card

725
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: win or two. I mean, yeah, tell me what's wrong

726
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: with the roster. You're feeling different definitely when they scored

727
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: three points in Kansas City or and since then they've

728
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: added let's see justin Houston, Devon funches about six incredible

729
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: athletes on defense. Um, they're they're forced to be reckoned. Well,

730
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: that's the thing about having great success in your first

731
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: season is it's so hard to get continuity in the

732
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 1: NFL that that's like instant continuity. You have the same

733
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: coaching staff, you have almost all the same players, and

734
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: that's like a great window to go make some no

735
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: before anything gets broken up. Our boy, Evan Silva, the

736
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: big fish over at Rodal World, handed out one a

737
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: grade um for the draft in the a f C.

738
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: And it was to our friend Chris Ballard. Silva is

739
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: a tough grader. And you know what that is. That

740
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: tells you two things. One that somebody has plugged in

741
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 1: as knowledgeable as Evan saw the moves that Ballard made,

742
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 1: you know, moving up and down the board, maximizing his

743
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: assets and and and pulling in a great hall including

744
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: Rocky of Sin come to Las Vegas the second round

745
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: pick at thirty four, and also how ballard stock is

746
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: just so high. People give this guy the benefit of

747
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: doubt because of what he was able to do last year,

748
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: especially the way that those draft picks played out, and

749
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: so a lot of the guys you look down the

750
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,439
Speaker 1: list and it's like, oh, we'll rock you Sin. I'd

751
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: like him somewhere else, but Chris Ballard likes him. Oh well, yeah,

752
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: this is great. This is a great draft. So there's

753
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: plenty of reasons. So we's a team with no and

754
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 1: it's way too early to do prediction predictions for the

755
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: season and all that, but a team with no discernible laws,

756
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: you have to be looking at them. Even in a

757
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: very competitive AFC South, you see them as a heavy

758
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: favorite to win that division, right, I absolutely do. I

759
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: think the Texans are just treading water and the Cults

760
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 1: are getting a lot better. And I think the Titans

761
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: got better than the Texans got. It's a really good division.

762
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 1: I think they really hope the second round pick Binagu

763
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: works out because they don't have edge rushers. I mean,

764
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 1: justin Houston should help there too. They could add a

765
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: running back to a veteran running back sports real original

766
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 1: next Shawn McCoy, perhaps us that willould that hurt you. No,

767
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: I would not root for the Colt tip Leshan McCoy was,

768
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: all right, Well that is that I'm being I cannot

769
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: root for all right, let's move on to the Jacksonville's

770
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: Jaguars finished last place in the UFC South last year,

771
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: but everything is looking great now for the Jags. The

772
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: Raiders made that surprise move. It for um uh taking

773
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: um cle Cleland Farrell keep forgetting the name the Giants

774
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: course take Jones. So then the Jags get this absolute

775
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: stud Josh Allen falls into their laps at six, they

776
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: grab them. It's been it was another positive and what's

777
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: been a big season of positives, offseason of positives for Jacksonville.

778
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: Everything about this team west and this is where we

779
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: need to talk about this. To me, everything about this

780
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 1: Jaguars team screams big bounce back season all enjoys. The defense,

781
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: loaded with talent Nick Fole, should stabilize things behind center.

782
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: The offensive line is very good and uh running back,

783
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: maybe there's some things to work out there, thank you.

784
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 1: And I do not see I I on their offensive line. Okay,

785
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: which I think is easily the worst. I don't maybe

786
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 1: not easily the worst because of the Texans, but it's

787
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: one of the worst in the AFC. Okay, barring injury

788
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: or some type of internal discord or West's viewpoint on

789
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: the offensive line is correct. Uh, this team to me

790
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: screams eleven and five and a hard out in January

791
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: and an absolute um competitive for that a f C

792
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: South title. I think the offensive line is an issue,

793
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: and I think playmakers in the passing game is an issue.

794
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: They had some of the worst wide receiver play in

795
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: the NFL last year. Show me the tight end. Who's

796
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: gonna make a play on this team? They they need

797
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: a little juice and you're counting on Folds and de

798
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: Filippo to generate it. And that's the most important part

799
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 1: of any team to me, is their passing game. And

800
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: so that's the question. I'm not worried about the offensive

801
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: Like Kim Robinson's a great left tackle, He's not he

802
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: got hurt from He's a He's one of the ten

803
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: or eleven best I think that doesn't have left tackles.

804
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 1: He's solid. Jowahn Taylor at thirty five overall from Florida.

805
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 1: That's another guy you can plug and play. I'm worried.

806
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: I'm a little worried about there. It's some someone's gonna

807
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: be a huge disappointment in this division. Last year was

808
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: the Jet because they're all they all have a lot

809
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: of reason to believe their playoff teams. Cam Cam had

810
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: a solid rookie year. He struggled in the playoffs. He

811
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: had that shoulder injury of James Harrison was giving them

812
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: all kounds of work. Uh in the Patriots game. Um,

813
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: but there was a noticeable drop off when Camp absolutely

814
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: last year and so now they they had j Wan Taylor.

815
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: A lot of people thought he was the best tackle

816
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: in the draft. Um, they're able to get him at

817
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: thirty five, and rookie tackles almost always struggle before they

818
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: turn it around. Yeah, but he doesn't have to play.

819
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: He doesn't have to play on the left. Camp can

820
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: can handle that. You can start out on the right. Others.

821
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 1: You know, the reason to feel better about the line

822
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: than last year for net is such a big, big

823
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: factor because you know, you take a guy that high,

824
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: you think he's going to give you a huge advantage,

825
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: and he was not even league average. You know he

826
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: was below average as a starter, so it's like, what

827
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: Leonard for Nette are you getting? Normally, I'm not that

828
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: concerned about the running back situation. Figure like the team

829
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: around it's more important. But in this case, like he's

830
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: such a wild card. Absolutely, So you're trending everything negative

831
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: for the Jacks and everything positive for the culture. No,

832
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: I'm not. The Jaguars have a very strong defense, and

833
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: I like the quarterback. I just don't mean question mark,

834
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: what do you like at wide receiver, tight end, an

835
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: offensive line on these two regular I had answers for

836
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 1: everything you just said, but we're out of time. Sorry, West,

837
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: moving on to the kids City Chiefs. Excuse me my mistake.

838
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: What a fool to Houston Texans. You know I just

839
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,959
Speaker 1: said that one one or two of these teams gonna

840
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,720
Speaker 1: have to be a letdown. It's a tough, tough division,

841
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: tough out of division schedule. Could it be the Texans?

842
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: My biggest concern is just how important Titus Howard and

843
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: Max Sharping, their two first picks in this draft, are

844
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: to this team. So this is just a team that

845
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: needs their first two picks, both on the offensive line.

846
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: Howard will play you know one of the tackle spots,

847
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: sharping the guard. They need to come in and solidify it.

848
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 1: And I don't have a ton of faith in that,

849
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: just because the coaching has proven to not be able

850
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 1: to coach the offensive line five years running. So you're

851
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: counting on rookies, and you're counting on guys like Will

852
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: Fuller to stay healthy and Lamar Miller and and there's

853
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: just a lot of questions where if something doesn't go

854
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: right right at the top, then it gets ugly fast.

855
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: This seems to be the popular pick. If when you

856
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: are saying who's gonna be the disappointment, people seem to

857
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: be pointing at the Texans as that team. Um, they've

858
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: been fairly consistent in the Bill O'Brien era. You've been

859
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: really really they had one bad year, yeah, of kind

860
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: of playing up to their potential or near their potential.

861
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: So it would be a break from how they have

862
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: been under this current regime. He he has four in

863
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: five seasons, he's out a winning record four times, and

864
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: they're coming off in eleven win season. So I don't

865
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: blame them for you got you have Deshaun Watson. You're

866
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: gonna think that you're in the mix as a big

867
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: time contender. Well, I think when you have the Shawn

868
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 1: Watson and DeAndre Hopkins, J J. Watt, g Deevion Clowney,

869
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: those guys can carry the team if they get hot,

870
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: they can carry the team for for weeks at a time.

871
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: So I don't write them off just because I think

872
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: the Colts got better. I just think the Texans are

873
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: about what they were last year and it might not

874
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: be good enough in an improved division. And we've seen

875
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,760
Speaker 1: them hurt so many times that I think that aids

876
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: in the perception that they're thin. It's like, oh, they're

877
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: always one injury away from going to the tank. Whether

878
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: it's cooler to an extent, going down really hurt the

879
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: offense last. But they are thin at the skill positions.

880
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: You know, they have Deshaun Watson and DeAndre Hopkins, and

881
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: then after that, Fuller is the third best skill position

882
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: player and he's heard a lot and then the four

883
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: who is their fourth? A lot of teams right now, yeah,

884
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: I guess it's Lamar Miller, But a lot of teams

885
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: right now have four or five six different kind of weapons.

886
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 1: They don't really have that sort of depth and looking

887
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 1: at the tackle, they take Howard out of Alabama State early,

888
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: um and people see him as a project tackle. What

889
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: if they don't see him as a project tackle? But

890
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: I don't think they. If they have a plan in

891
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 1: place for him, he's not going to do a whole

892
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: lot out of his outside. The perception was that how

893
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: he rose and banged him by trading right in front

894
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: of him and taking um Andre Andre Dillard. So Titus

895
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: and he's from a small school. Maybe not the same

896
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: level of prospect, but maybe he's a star. If he's

897
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 1: backing up Sean Trelle Henderson, They're going to be disappointed

898
00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 1: if Matt Khalil is starting Week one. Just in general,

899
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: he's special, almost a little bit forgotten, how specially is

900
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: with all the emergency quarterbacks. Alright, last division in the

901
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: a f C. Patrick Claibn, get us going with the

902
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: hometown Chargers. All right, I'm gonna pay a picture for you, guys.

903
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: A weathered Philip Rivers sits on the field months after

904
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 1: a loss in Gelette Stadium, the eventual Super Bowl champions,

905
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: already celebrating yet again as he watched from the field,

906
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: thinking of his actual vengeance plan, an army of his

907
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: own children set about on the destruction of all of

908
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: New England. He's in the Satesler chair waiting for one button,

909
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: his signal. He'd soldered it onto his helmet communicator months ago.

910
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: He could usher in a new age, an age where

911
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 1: the chaos was replaced with order injustice purged in the

912
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: pursuit of honor, a ledger of failure wiped clean in

913
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: a sweeping success. But as he reaches for the button,

914
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: a hand reaches down to him. It's Tom to LESCo,

915
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,479
Speaker 1: standing there with Thomas Davis and the seer Adderly. He says,

916
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: one more job, Phil, one more ride, and that's what

917
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: this is for the Chargers. One more ride. Interesting, let's

918
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: do it. So there's you believe And that was beautiful

919
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,959
Speaker 1: by the way I mean I had to get around

920
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 1: plase Um. You believe there's an urgency in that building,

921
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: and I feel like urgency would be something. Patrick Claybann

922
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: is not big on the idea of this team, knows

923
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,919
Speaker 1: this is the time that can end up a trash take.

924
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 1: But is there an urgency around the Rivers led Chargers

925
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: at this stage. I I feel, through the acquisitions and

926
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: the guys assembled on the team um that this this

927
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: is the shot. This is a legitimate shot, I believe.

928
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: I think everybody has seen what this team can do.

929
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: There's no reason not to believe. And what's the future.

930
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what the future is. Future is now.

931
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: But they're on line. Was their their biggest problem down

932
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 1: the stretch last year, and they really didn't address that

933
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: at all. They took a third round pick Trey Pitkins,

934
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: didn't do much in free agency, and so that's my fear.

935
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: But to what I was saying earlier about continuity, it's

936
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: hard to keep teams together. And you're right, there's a

937
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: lot of town on this team, and this feels like

938
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: last year and this year is their prime time to

939
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: get it done before all these contracts come up at

940
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: Rivers gets too old or both to get you know,

941
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: whatever it is. There's a lot going on to that

942
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: same point that the Chargers are bringing back up a

943
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: badass nucleus twelve win team, uh, twelve win team. And

944
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: then you look at the other superpowers. The Chiefs are

945
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: going through a lot of stuff. When we're gonna get

946
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: to them in a in a minute. Um, the Patriots,

947
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: obviously they're they're trying to figure some things out. The Steelers.

948
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: The window is there. The Colts, obviously, West are on

949
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: the rise. But I'm saying the windows all about the Colts.

950
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: Believe me, Yeah, that the windows there for this this

951
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: Charger team, there's no doubt about it. Well. I think

952
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: the defense got quite a bit better in the offseason.

953
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: The offense is questionable. They do get Hunter Henry Back,

954
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: who was having a very promising start to his career

955
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: before he missed last season. Then they also lost Tyrell Williams.

956
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 1: Maybe that's a that's a push, But I agree with Greg.

957
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 1: The right side of this offensive line is the issue,

958
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: and it was a major issue down the stretch last

959
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 1: year when they went into town and in circling back

960
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: to the Rivers children, I guess just as a representative

961
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: someone that grew up in new you know wait, you

962
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: got none of them are over eighteen, Most of them

963
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: are under ten years old. We'll take you on Rivers children.

964
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 1: Bring Those are the children you know about bringing words

965
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: by a man about to be overrun by a bunch

966
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: of elementary school children. Wes move us into Denver. John

967
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 1: Elway was up against it. He's been up against the

968
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: last two years where it looked like he had to

969
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 1: nail the last two rookie classes in order to avoid

970
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:43,280
Speaker 1: a full scale rebuild reconstruction, and after the two thousand

971
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: eighteen draft class was one of the most impressive in

972
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: the NFL, and this one looks to be pretty promising

973
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: as well. I think he now has a chance to

974
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 1: pull it off. Like driving a tractor through a needle.

975
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: I think he might have done it. It all depends

976
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 1: on Lock and Flacco. But the roster looks much better

977
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: now to me, and it did a couple of years ago.

978
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: M hmm. How about on defense? That's what I'm saying.

979
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: The defense isn't an issue at all. The only thing

980
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: that needed to be reconstructive was the offense. The offensive

981
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: line looks better to me. He picked up Juwan James

982
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: and um the center guard they got in the second

983
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 1: round Risner, I think to me, that looks much better.

984
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: Hopefully he's able to navigate Chris Harris's desires to paid

985
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: um to the level of his ability um because if

986
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: if he's able to be back um potentially a long

987
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: term because being one of the best cornerbacks in the

988
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 1: NFL not getting paid like it for several years, that's

989
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 1: that's that'd be my only concern that it's a great

990
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 1: point because we haven't really talked about Chris Harris's trade request.

991
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 1: They sounded like they wanted to trade him. I mean,

992
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: it's very rare that John Elway that a GM is

993
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 1: talking on the podium about how he's looking for offers

994
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: and he didn't really get many calls this or that.

995
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 1: They sounded pretty open, and I think it's to their

996
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 1: credit that they're not it's going to give Chris Harris away,

997
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: and it'd be crazy too. And he's coming off a

998
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 1: broken leg, and I think that's probably White teams didn't

999
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: jump on a chance to go get him. And I

1000
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: mentioned the Saturday I'll say it again though, that I

1001
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: really like the Lock move Drew Lock in the second

1002
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: round um going up to get him and gives them

1003
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: a little bit of flexibility because maybe Joe Flacco is

1004
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: revitalized in a new and new surroundings and has a

1005
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: nice year, and this is a playoff team probably if

1006
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: that happens. But if he isn't good, or if he

1007
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: gets hurt, which has happened as well in recent years,

1008
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: you now have a kid you could turn to and

1009
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: maybe he can play a little bit so you kind

1010
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: of doubled your chances. You're not boxed in at quarterback.

1011
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: Interesting team, the Broncos. I feel like they have a

1012
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: wide range of outcomes this season. It takes the draft,

1013
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 1: and this is very true that the Broncos in this

1014
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 1: case for me to do at least now that I'm old,

1015
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: there like it's the time when I'm first excited, like

1016
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: I want to go see this team. Now, I'm excited

1017
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: to go see this team next year. Like the draft

1018
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: is that moment where okay, the rafters are together. Now

1019
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: I'm like starting to get ready to say goodbye to

1020
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: my family and and enjoy the two thousand nineteen sets.

1021
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: Does Joe Flacco like that fire for you? Now? It's

1022
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,399
Speaker 1: not really Flacco so much, although I'm curious, like I'm

1023
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: certainly more curious to watch him with Keenan. I'm with West.

1024
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: He was playing fairly well at the beginning. I don't

1025
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: think he necessarily is a bump if he's supported any

1026
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: other thoughts. I want to know what you guys think

1027
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: the Broncos. Are they gonna be a like eight and

1028
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 1: eight team? Are they gonna be a tenant six team? Six?

1029
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: And sorry, I mean I could see tenant six. I

1030
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,280
Speaker 1: could see six and ten too tough with the position.

1031
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: I see a squad that's looking for one giving me.

1032
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 1: I'm giving him all right. Let's move on to the

1033
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: defending UM Division champion, Kansas City Chiefs. Um. The Chiefs

1034
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: survived the loss of Cream Hunt even thrived without a

1035
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: Hunt Hunt. Um. But Tyreek Hills possible slash, probable slash,

1036
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: inevitable exit from Kansas City will really test Andy Reid. Uh,

1037
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 1: and that that entire organization. Then again, there's this this

1038
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: other side of it, and and a lot of it

1039
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: starts with Patrick Gohoans his greatness and and are we

1040
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 1: just scraping the ceiling? How of how good this guy

1041
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:09,439
Speaker 1: could be? Uh? And perhaps he turns the Georgia wide

1042
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 1: receiver hardman. Maybe he is instantly a Pro Bowl producer.

1043
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: Maybe that's how good Patrick Mahomes is. Maybe they did

1044
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 1: a good job in their scouting and bringing in a

1045
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: guy that can make an instant a plug and play

1046
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: Clay Bond type. Um. The defense is undergone a very

1047
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: public makeover. Uh. The offense is shedding playmakers. But I

1048
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: still feel good about the Chiefs and I and I

1049
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: know there are a hundred reasons that you could point

1050
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: to why you should be down on the cheese right now.

1051
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: But Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes, outside of Bell Chick and

1052
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 1: Brady Uh, there isn't another head coach quarterback combination. I

1053
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: trust more to see things through um rocky times and uncertainty.

1054
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 1: And that's why I still think the Chiefs should be

1055
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: very much viewed as a powerhouse with super Bowl winning potential.

1056
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: I agree, I mean, and I would take in terms

1057
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: of schematic advantage and quarterback talent, there's no in betting right,

1058
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: I'd take Reading Mahomes over anyone. I mean, Read, it's

1059
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: just so clear has provided a game plan advantage against

1060
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: his opponents the last couple of years. And Mahomes, you

1061
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: just listening to him at the Owners mean you get

1062
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: the sense Read feels like he's just starting that process

1063
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: of what he can do. The most important skill position player,

1064
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: the most important non quarterback in the NFL, according to

1065
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: Sean Payton and Drew Brees last year was Tyreek Hill

1066
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: and the spacing he gives this offense. I I have

1067
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 1: no idea what me Nicole Hardman is going to be,

1068
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: but Tyreek Hill is is if he's not playing that's

1069
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: a devastating loss for them, And as far as an

1070
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,720
Speaker 1: offense and being explosive, that was kind of a pitnacle

1071
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: right Like it's it's tough to think that they will

1072
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: be better than that in any capacity, especially if if

1073
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,919
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill is not there. But if they're anywhere close

1074
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: and the defense is better than they're a contender. So

1075
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 1: that's that's the question defensive rebuild is going to have

1076
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: to take. And it doesn't have to make They don't

1077
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: have to be a top ten defense, but they have

1078
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: to be the middle of the road offense. And then

1079
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: it's up to Read and Mahomes and the rest of

1080
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: the coaching staff and who's there now uh to make

1081
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: it work on offense. I just what I guess what

1082
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying is it's one of those popular buzzy subplots

1083
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 1: of every offseason. This one, to me, one of them is,

1084
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: Oh the Chiefs are in trouble now and I get it,

1085
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: and West is absolutely right how important Tyreek Hill is.

1086
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: I just think this team is going to figure it out.

1087
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 1: It might take some time, but I just trust them

1088
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: too well. They need so panic is not on the

1089
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: menu for me. They need Sammy Watkins to to jump

1090
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 1: up make an impact. I kind of like some of

1091
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: the defensive moves they made, the very quiet ones the

1092
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 1: oak for and Emmanuel Hagba and Bashad Brian. Just like

1093
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 1: getting guys in there that are okay enough for very

1094
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: little money. Keenan Allen still laughing at the second. See

1095
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: how important the scheme is. All right, close it out

1096
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 1: with the Oakland Raiders. Greg, A lot of times you

1097
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 1: need you hear people talk about, Okay, there's a big

1098
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: year for Derek Carr. They put a lot of weapons

1099
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: around them. Um, it's the new regime. He's got to

1100
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: prove himself this and that. How about it's a big

1101
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: year for John Gruden. Like that? I to see can

1102
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,720
Speaker 1: John Gruden adapt and be a two thousand and nineteen

1103
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: difference maker because to me, the roster that they have,

1104
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: there shouldn't be any excuses for them to be at

1105
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: bottom tier offense. Antonio Brown, Tyrolle Williams. Maybe it's on

1106
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 1: the renfro their fifth round pick as a slot receiver

1107
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 1: that's allowed to ask a fifth round pick. But either way,

1108
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 1: they're deep enough at receiver. They're deep enough at running

1109
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 1: back with Josh Jacobs their first round pick. You have

1110
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 1: a guy in Derek Carr who's played a lot of

1111
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: games and now he's in the prime of his career.

1112
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 1: He's getting paid like it. The offensive lineman that they

1113
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: brought in are highly paid Trent Brown or highly drafted

1114
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: Colton Miller, or like all pro type guys like Rodney Hudson,

1115
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 1: Gabe Jackson's a very good like you should be a

1116
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 1: good offense John Gruden like and and I do have

1117
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: questions whether John Gruden is an advantage is an asset

1118
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: in two thousand and nineteen. I think this year will

1119
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: give us a good view of that. I think this

1120
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 1: offensive line could be sneaky, trash. I I I worry

1121
00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: if I was a Raiders fan. I was if I

1122
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 1: was a Raiders stay and I would be worried about

1123
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: that too. But they certainly have we Colton Miller can play, No,

1124
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: I mean he struggled last year. Are we sure Denzel

1125
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: Good should be starting a guard? No? I mean that's

1126
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 1: one spot that is definitely a weakness there. And I

1127
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 1: think this defense too, was not one draft away from

1128
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: being good. They were two or three drafts away from

1129
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: being respectable. M They've They've put a lot into the

1130
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: drafts on on defense. You know, they get Cleveland Ferrell,

1131
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: they get John at the neighbor, and they get Trayvon

1132
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 1: Mall and that's three of the top forty picks in

1133
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: the draft on one defense. So like they're looking for

1134
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: an instant impact. This was not a one year rebuild

1135
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 1: or maybe even a two year rebuild. The question I

1136
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: guess I have is what would define success for the

1137
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders in twenty nineteen. To have an offensive identity

1138
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: would be enough for me. And that might even just

1139
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: be being the middle of the pack, but that would

1140
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: be a huge improvement. And I think seeing some of

1141
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: these young players come through. How about finding out that

1142
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: Derek Carr is in fact a franchise quarterback. That would

1143
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: be a good year for the Raiders. Which would be

1144
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: crazy to have somebody be anointed as a franchise quarterback

1145
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: twice in their career. He needs to be re anointed.

1146
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: We need to know and if he if he does

1147
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: not take it to the next level or he regresses,

1148
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: the Raiders are going to make a big play for

1149
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: a quarterback next year. So that's something to keep an

1150
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 1: eye on. I was thinking he's he is a candidate

1151
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: for the Dalton scale right now, because I don't think

1152
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: you're looking at Derek Carton. Stay made him the Dalton

1153
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: line one year, didn't we? I don't think so. It's

1154
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: always been Dalton scale, got it, Alex Smith, It's always

1155
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: been you, and but Dalton is the one and true hero. Um.

1156
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: I will mention here because he's a man who's opinion

1157
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: we respect. Move the sticks said during the draft telcast

1158
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: that he sees Hunter Renfroese a guy they could plug

1159
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: in this year and get you whoa bros? You like sports?

1160
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: Real original? Next, there is no next. You please shut

1161
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: all talk and you just ramble on that no one

1162
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: gives a flying about Just shut up. That's fair. Why

1163
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: do you need to play a recording? Why can't you

1164
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: just say that into the mic? Um? All right, good job,

1165
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: great job. That is it. We just went around the

1166
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: a f C and exactly forty eight minutes close. It

1167
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: was a fun Patrick came in here, we plugged in

1168
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: and he played well. He did more than play well.

1169
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: I would like to think you got on base. He

1170
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: went first to third on a single, scored three runs.

1171
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 1: Just let me be six Man of the Year. He

1172
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 1: swung at that first pitch of the game and popped

1173
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: out the second. But then after that you got on

1174
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: base twice, even a nice play in the field. Shortage

1175
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: of bodies that he didn't have anybody else to put in,

1176
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: so I had to stay in the line up, and

1177
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: you know I produced later in the game after the

1178
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: initial failure, your regular Zach Duke. I mean, that didn't

1179
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: work for a variety some just inflames. It's just some

1180
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Red's relief. Sure that that I'm like worried about

1181
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: his safety. Zack Duke's safety, not West's. Other West is

1182
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: hard at He's not gonna be on my radar soon

1183
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: because he's gonna be cut. I'm gonna I'm gonna tell

1184
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: Emily to stay home for Western Lakisha's wedding, which is

1185
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: you know this month now, um well, effective tomorrow, and

1186
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 1: bring Zack Duke as my date, just to see what

1187
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: I don't I don't hate the man, he just doesn't

1188
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,919
Speaker 1: belong on the Red. And then I'm gonna get Zack

1189
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: nice and drunk. He's a middling relief pitcher, former top

1190
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 1: prospect of a pirate's way back when years ago, and

1191
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,959
Speaker 1: now he's a hot and cold middle reliever that West

1192
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: hates with the heat of Idellian burning sun. I don't

1193
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: hate him, but the man is carrying like an e

1194
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: r A of about eleven and the league is hitting

1195
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 1: three sixty off of him. He probably belongs in the

1196
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 1: minor league. This is what I would do. I would

1197
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: for the No One wants the Reds podcast. I would

1198
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: bring him to times was the best man at his

1199
01:00:53,800 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: wedding who that caps mats another reliever of Nationals fame.

1200
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 1: But bring him very nice man. I have no ill

1201
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: will towards. Team you up with him, get you nice

1202
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: and liquored up after the wedding, which I imagine happen

1203
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: like hanging out on and then you and Zach Duke

1204
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: team up in cornhole, all right, and then and then

1205
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: you'll change your opinion on the man. I like him,

1206
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: I just don't like on my team's roster. When you

1207
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: gotta get find a good partner after the losing streak

1208
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 1: that you started on, I'm not worried about it. Cesster

1209
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 1: not even here to defend himself, and you know he

1210
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 1: won't listen. I don't think he would have defended himself.

1211
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,439
Speaker 1: I think there would have been a barbed shot back,

1212
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 1: which is my prediction. Um, all right, Patrick, thank you buddy,

1213
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 1: Thank you guys. We'll be back on Thursday with Colleen Wolf. Yes,

1214
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: the great Connie Fox sitting in the Mark chair. Uh

1215
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 1: to go around the NFC. A lot of pressure to

1216
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 1: live up to Patrick's well and play is Terry Rosey're

1217
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 1: a good enough Now, let's do it. He's playing well

1218
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 1: in the playoffs when he's been. He plays for Boston though,

1219
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 1: which sucks. But yeah, you know, he's more like a

1220
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 1: Vinny Microwave Johnson instant offense any Green. I think late

1221
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 1: stage the Microwave is on like my six man Hall

1222
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 1: of Fame. Yeah, all right, that's enough. This is ridiculous.

1223
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: All right. This is Dan hands Is signing off for

1224
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 1: Patrick Clay Band, Patrick Microwave, Clay, the Mailman, the old Boston,

1225
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 1: Ricky Hollywood behind the glass Juel Thursday. Well, I'll come.

1226
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 1: I had a lot going on there. M I had

1227
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 1: a burp that was coming up and I couldn't get

1228
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 1: rid of it, so it was stuck there. And then

1229
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: the frog. The burp and the frog. That's a false start.

1230
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: You can survive one or the other both at the

1231
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 1: same time. As I would take one tooting a crossfire there.

1232
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: I can't do both