WEBVTT - Second Date Update: Bottom of the Bread Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we're starting off your week with a brand

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<v Speaker 1>new episode today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yay Second Date.

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<v Speaker 1>And I gotta say, this girl's hack for figuring out

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<v Speaker 1>if this guy was trustworthy or not is probably going

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<v Speaker 1>to be used by other people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure. YEA a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little on the immortal side, just a tad

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<v Speaker 1>though not enough, not enough, not at no, okay enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but before we get to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Comments, we love to feature yours.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, heavenly said.

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<v Speaker 1>My town was out of internet for over twelve hours.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh and the only thing I wanted to do was

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<v Speaker 3>listen to y'all's podcast and it did not disappoint. Oh yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just a twelve hour Wait what do you do

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<v Speaker 3>for twelve hours not internet on Alexis?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, Yeah, I time, I guess, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what I do?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, Your brand new Second Date starts right now.

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<v Speaker 4>The Second Date update it's broken Jeffrey in the morning.

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<v Speaker 5>And if you didn't know, you can always hear our

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<v Speaker 5>Millions of people download him a month.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just the Second Date commercial happening.

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<v Speaker 5>It's right, Brooke says you should download it too, or

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<v Speaker 5>else I don't want.

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<v Speaker 2>To know what the or where else is.

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<v Speaker 1>May enjoy it?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, thank god, whatever it is, it's in your best

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<v Speaker 5>interest and not to defy Broke. But we do have

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<v Speaker 5>a listener on the phone right now who's asked us

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<v Speaker 5>for a second date. And I didn't even get to

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<v Speaker 5>read his email ahead of time, so I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>much about it other than his name is Rick, and

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<v Speaker 5>hopefully I'm pronouncing that right Rick?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it Rick? Am I saying that right?

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<v Speaker 6>Of course?

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's the only way to pronounce it.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like he's not emphasizing the C enough in

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<v Speaker 2>your name.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and it could be with a silent R. So

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<v Speaker 4>we don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>But let's get right into your date. Tell us about

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<v Speaker 5>the woman you met. What's her name?

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<v Speaker 6>So I met a girl named Brenda. I was trying

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<v Speaker 6>to find just find a way to meet people, and

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<v Speaker 6>my friend told me to join a running club. So

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<v Speaker 6>I joined this running.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've heard a lot of people doing that, I haven't.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really popular for summer.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, fun.

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<v Speaker 5>Now it's not anymore short just saying late to the trend.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's fun. It's I mean, it's one a

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<v Speaker 1>good way to get healthy, so you're gonna get some

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<v Speaker 1>positive out of it. And then usually people meet up

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<v Speaker 1>for beers afterwards. Yeah, you meet to start and then

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<v Speaker 1>and there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, did that happen on your date?

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<v Speaker 6>Rick, No, there was no drinking at running club.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh curious.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I never heard of that, too healthy.

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<v Speaker 4>So how did you and Brenda hit it off?

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<v Speaker 6>We met at the back of the line. We were

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<v Speaker 6>jogging while everyone else was running.

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<v Speaker 4>That's kind of funny. You were the lazy ones who

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<v Speaker 4>weren't taking it very seriously.

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<v Speaker 2>You can take that slow, Jeff, you don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>speed shamey. Okay, they showed up. They're not that lazy.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like being telling them me slow is more.

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<v Speaker 2>Shame for people know when they're slow. I'm slow.

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<v Speaker 4>It's okay, all right.

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<v Speaker 5>So what did you and Brenda talk about at the

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<v Speaker 5>back of the line.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, we kind of bonded on the fact that we

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<v Speaker 6>were in running club but hated running club.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like the cool kids at the back of

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<v Speaker 4>the bus. Why didn't even sign up for this dumb thing?

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<v Speaker 4>Why are we here?

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<v Speaker 6>So I ended up getting your number, which was cool.

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<v Speaker 6>So we started texting and then I worked up the

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<v Speaker 6>courage to ask her out.

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<v Speaker 2>Cute.

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<v Speaker 1>So how long of a friendship did you have before

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<v Speaker 1>you asked her out?

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe two months if I had to guess, somewhere around there.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, you're a slow runner and a slow mover romantically.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, your style. I like you.

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<v Speaker 1>But you were so nervous because you know, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to screw up run club, but you hate.

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<v Speaker 3>You gonna have to pick up the paste of avoiter practice.

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<v Speaker 4>So what did you do? I mean you went out

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<v Speaker 4>on an official date after this? Right?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I didn't want to go somewhere too fancy, but

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<v Speaker 6>I also didn't want to go to like a Denny's

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<v Speaker 6>or something.

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<v Speaker 7>So I picked a like the.

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<v Speaker 6>Middle of the road Italian restaurant that I've been to before,

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<v Speaker 6>and I knew the food was good.

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<v Speaker 4>You could say Olive Gardens.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean we all have, no, it was definitely better

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<v Speaker 6>than Olive Garden.

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<v Speaker 4>Olive Garden is.

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<v Speaker 6>Like the fast food of Italian restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>We love that Alfredo, yeah, but we love fast food,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So you went to the Macaroni Bar and Grill and

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<v Speaker 4>how was it there?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>God, we're just teasing you.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't care about the actual Italian restaurant you win,

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<v Speaker 1>like a local time.

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<v Speaker 6>It's not important, guys.

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<v Speaker 5>We're more interested in your bond and connection with Brenda.

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<v Speaker 6>While you were there, I feel like the night was

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<v Speaker 6>going really good. Our conversation was good. I felt like

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<v Speaker 6>we clicked. And at some point, you know how they

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<v Speaker 6>serve bread and they have like a little fabric thing underneath.

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<v Speaker 4>It, napkin. Yeah, we're familiar with napkin.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, it's like a doily.

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<v Speaker 7>I think they call it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I can say that.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, we were still thinking olive gardens.

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<v Speaker 2>What happened with the doily?

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<v Speaker 6>So there was underneath it? There was like a half

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<v Speaker 6>ripped It seemed like a breakup note.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, like a Dear John letter.

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<v Speaker 6>It was strange. It was like only like half of

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<v Speaker 6>it though, and it was kind of smudgie, but you

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<v Speaker 6>could tell it was I don't know, it was like

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<v Speaker 6>a breakup note is the only way I could describe it.

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<v Speaker 1>So was that like a fun thing to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>on your date? No?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean I thought it was kind of funny in

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<v Speaker 6>a way. But she did not really react at all.

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<v Speaker 6>It changed the vibe for sure, because I went to

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<v Speaker 6>the bathroom and then when I got back from the bathroom,

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<v Speaker 6>I felt like the air had changed. She like didn't

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<v Speaker 6>want dessert. She's like, oh, okay, you could just take

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<v Speaker 6>me home, like real matter of fact.

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<v Speaker 4>No, oh god.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, do you think it reminded her of a

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<v Speaker 1>past breakup and it made her sad?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know if that's what it was. I'm just

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<v Speaker 6>like guessing here, but something happened that she didn't like,

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<v Speaker 6>and she kind of like ended it.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, clearly she understood that they sat you down at

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<v Speaker 5>the breakup table inside the restaurant.

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<v Speaker 2>She was upset you took her to a restaurant where

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<v Speaker 2>they don't clean the tables very well.

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<v Speaker 5>Geez yeah, I mean that sounds like it's kind of

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<v Speaker 5>like a bad omen for your first date.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's not your fault, Like I think you can

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<v Speaker 4>recover from that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like I think it'd be a good open.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd read it.

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<v Speaker 1>I try to find out whose couple is and I waiter.

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<v Speaker 2>With Alexis it be juicy gossip?

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<v Speaker 6>Talk about it?

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<v Speaker 4>You could bond over it, like as we're starting, somebody

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<v Speaker 4>else ended.

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<v Speaker 2>What was the ride home like?

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<v Speaker 6>In the car, awkward, quiet, like I was trying to

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<v Speaker 6>make conversation and it was just I don't know, Like

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<v Speaker 6>I said, the air change, the vibe was okay, interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you seen her at run club since?

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<v Speaker 6>No, I've been back there a few times. I called her,

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<v Speaker 6>I texted her, I messaged her on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, okay, yeah she is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's definitely avoid of communication.

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<v Speaker 4>Brother. Okay, and now we're gonna call her.

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<v Speaker 1>He left smudge notes at every table that she was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be at for every restaurant she was about to visit.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh well, I mean, we may not know exactly what

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<v Speaker 5>it is, but we are committed to helping you figure

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<v Speaker 5>it out, Rick, because we're gonna call Brenda in just

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<v Speaker 5>a few minutes here and try and get you your

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<v Speaker 5>second date update right after this hold on.

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<v Speaker 4>Second date update.

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<v Speaker 5>Can you get blocked by somebody else's tragic breakup?

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<v Speaker 2>That's funny?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, that's what.

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<v Speaker 5>Our listener Rick is wondering because he took a woman

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<v Speaker 5>named Brenda out to a mid tier Italian restaurant. His

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<v Speaker 5>description not ours, but at the bottom of their bread bowl,

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<v Speaker 5>they found part of a breakup note that a previous

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<v Speaker 5>couple had apparently left underneath the doily if, which Rick.

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<v Speaker 4>Found kind of amusing.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but after that, he says, the whole mood suddenly shifted,

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<v Speaker 5>and Brenda asked if he could take her back home.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and she's been avoiding him at all costs.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so weird and take her home not in the fun.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, let's go back to my place and I'll show

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<v Speaker 5>you my fish tank kind of way that I'm ready

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<v Speaker 5>for the night to be over right now, kind of where.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, how to get to a girl. We love

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<v Speaker 2>seeing fish takes.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, any sort of pet you're all in.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, But, like Brooks said, the real red flag is

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<v Speaker 5>she stops showing up to Run club, which I guess

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<v Speaker 5>she wasn't really a huge fan of anyway. But still

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<v Speaker 5>something's going on, Yeah, to make her totally disappear, and

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<v Speaker 5>we're trying to figure that out.

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<v Speaker 2>Rick, that's got to be it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I remember going to see do you remember Jennifer

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<v Speaker 1>Andison's movie Breakup? I don't know if you guys remember it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I went with a date and we both left

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<v Speaker 1>being like, Ugh, this isn't gonna work. Oh yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>just I don't know it Just like brought up all

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<v Speaker 1>these feelings of like I'm really settling right now?

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<v Speaker 5>Does something bad happen in the breakup?

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<v Speaker 2>That's the whole fighting, the whole movie. Yeah, maybe that's

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<v Speaker 2>how she felt.

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<v Speaker 5>The point is, Rick, we don't want any of those

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<v Speaker 5>bad vibes to happen on this call.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to go to bat for you. Are you

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<v Speaker 4>ready to do this?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm ready as I'm ever gonna be.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're not.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy from that breakup letter. You're a great guy

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<v Speaker 1>that deserves a chance.

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<v Speaker 6>As far as you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, it's not very reassuring, Rick, I know it's a joke.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it. Now is the time.

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<v Speaker 4>You're joking?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, of course I'm joking. Guys, Come on, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Have to be sure before we do there.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll find out here we go. Oho, Hey is this Brenda?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah? This is who's calling?

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<v Speaker 5>Who's calling is a radio show called Brook and Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 5>in the Morning.

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<v Speaker 7>Hello, good morning, Okay, a normal thing, we get it, Brenda? Yeah, Okay,

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<v Speaker 7>did I win something or what's going on?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>It's always the hopeful response, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 6>Jeff.

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<v Speaker 5>It's tough when people ask that because I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>the right way to respond. Other than to say no,

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<v Speaker 5>not really. This is a segment we do called a

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<v Speaker 5>second date Update.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>We try to help out a listener who's gone out

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<v Speaker 5>on a date with somebody recently, but they're not getting

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<v Speaker 5>a callback for a second one. We try to help

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<v Speaker 5>step in and figure out the reason why, if.

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<v Speaker 4>There is a reason.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, this guy that reached out about you, his name

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<v Speaker 5>is Rick.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh.

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<v Speaker 5>We're trying to help Rick figure out what's gone on

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<v Speaker 5>since your date because he says he hasn't even seen

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<v Speaker 5>you at run Club.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, yeah, I haven't been there.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you quit because of him?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>All right, so it sounds like this isn't just a coincidence.

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<v Speaker 5>You're actually trying to avoid him.

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<v Speaker 7>I am avoiding him, yes, all right, okay.

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<v Speaker 5>So if you could help explain like why you're trying

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<v Speaker 5>to avoid him, because Rick is pretty clueless.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, we had been talking for quite a while

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<v Speaker 7>at run Club and I thought he was different than

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<v Speaker 7>other guys, But after our date, I don't think he is.

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<v Speaker 2>What what do you mean?

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<v Speaker 1>What what are other guys like?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess is maybe where we should start.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, like just cheating on people.

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<v Speaker 4>And doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>You think Rick's a cheater.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't understand this. Rick said, this was your

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<v Speaker 4>first date.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so my friends who date a lot more than

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<v Speaker 7>I do, taught me this trick that like, you don't

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<v Speaker 7>want to like go in someone's phone because that's just

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<v Speaker 7>sort of rude. But when he went to the bathroom,

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<v Speaker 7>he left his phone on the table.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what you.

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<v Speaker 7>Do is you call the guy's phone when he goes away,

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<v Speaker 7>and you see name.

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<v Speaker 4>Popstep saved his phone.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so when he went to the bathroom, I called

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<v Speaker 7>his phone. The name that popped up on the screen

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<v Speaker 7>for my number, said Matthew.

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<v Speaker 1>Matthew.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I don't know what conclusion would you guys

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<v Speaker 7>come up with if you saw that, Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly what I would see where you would jump to

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<v Speaker 1>that conclusion. The only time a guy would change a

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<v Speaker 1>woman's name in his phone to a male name is

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<v Speaker 1>so that his Yeah, other female in his life wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>know who's calling, got it.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's the reason why you asked him to take

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<v Speaker 5>you home.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, when he came back, I wasn't in the mid

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<v Speaker 7>for dessert. I was just ready to go.

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<v Speaker 1>So so wait, but you never accused him. You never said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you're in a relationship with.

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<v Speaker 7>The heck yeah, because I mean it's only a first

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<v Speaker 7>date and I don't know this person.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe also, just spent two months with him

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<v Speaker 1>at the run club, you know what I mean? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you have every right to be angry. That's

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<v Speaker 1>two months of him lying to you.

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<v Speaker 5>Brook wants you to confront him right now, actually because

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<v Speaker 5>she does essentially.

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<v Speaker 1>What is happening.

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<v Speaker 5>She wants it to happen because we actually already have

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<v Speaker 5>Rick on the other line listening to this, waiting to

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<v Speaker 5>talk seriously. Yeah, Rick, Hi, yeah, yes, hello, I'd start

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<v Speaker 5>explaining yourself there, Rick.

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<v Speaker 6>What is there to explain the thing?

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<v Speaker 1>That's why would you call a radio show if you're

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<v Speaker 1>in another relationship.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not in a relationship.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, why did you name me Matthew and your phone?

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<v Speaker 6>Because I just thought it was funny. There's just I

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<v Speaker 6>have my reasons.

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<v Speaker 4>Reason, but it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>But you think the reason you don't have an okay

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<v Speaker 2>right now is that.

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<v Speaker 4>Sounds like I can hear him thinking right now.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Literally, I don't have anything to have an excuse for.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I'm dating technically, I don't be a problem.

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<v Speaker 4>So there are other women that you're going out with.

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<v Speaker 1>But no one that you call a girlfriend or you're

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<v Speaker 1>committed to wife.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm seeing other people, and for their protection, I change

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<v Speaker 6>their names in my phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, who else is texting you?

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<v Speaker 6>Not only do I have a Matthew, but I have

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<v Speaker 6>a John, I have a Mark.

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<v Speaker 4>I've got a lot of names. You got all the Apostles.

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<v Speaker 4>You're just going right down the New Testament.

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<v Speaker 2>You with Bible references. It's weird.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, you guys are laughing. But I'm going on

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<v Speaker 6>three dates in one week. I don't want these girls

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<v Speaker 6>to feel bad, so I want a guy's name to

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<v Speaker 6>pop up at my phone rings so none of them

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<v Speaker 6>feel bad.

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<v Speaker 1>See for me, that would spark a whole new round

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<v Speaker 1>of suspicions.

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<v Speaker 4>Why does John keep asking what you're wearing? Times?

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know. He's spinning it like it's for our protection,

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<v Speaker 7>but I know that people very It just seems dishonest

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<v Speaker 7>and weird.

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<v Speaker 6>Not dishonest or weird. It's just the way that I date.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, anything, it's all the women going through his

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<v Speaker 1>phone there maybe a little dishonest.

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<v Speaker 5>Well let me let me try to clear things up here,

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<v Speaker 5>because Rick, you say you're seeing a bunch of different

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<v Speaker 5>women and you're dating around, and that's totally fine. But

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<v Speaker 5>can I ask you, are any of these ladies in

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<v Speaker 5>your life? Would any of them consider themselves as your girlfriend?

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<v Speaker 5>Or is this just like you don't see them as

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<v Speaker 5>your girl?

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<v Speaker 4>That's a good question.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, well, I got a couple of clinging ones.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, a couple of them might.

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<v Speaker 4>A couple of them might say they're your girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, if you ask them, possibly, why would they say that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Would they think that because you told them that?

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<v Speaker 6>No, I've never used the term girlfriend in any of

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<v Speaker 6>my dating experience.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, I mean at this point, we are running out

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<v Speaker 5>of time, so I do need to ask if you

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<v Speaker 5>want to go out on another date?

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<v Speaker 4>But how many run clubs are you in right now? Rick?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>To meet all these men?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? I mean whatever, they are just the one all right?

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<v Speaker 2>But he's in a bowling league.

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<v Speaker 3>He's also part of a white tasting club club.

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<v Speaker 5>And I know this is all looking pretty bad. But

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<v Speaker 5>despite what you've heard, would you be willing to give

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<v Speaker 5>Rick one more chance and go on another date with him?

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<v Speaker 4>Because we'd pay for it?

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<v Speaker 7>No, I don't trust an You guys like well, you

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<v Speaker 7>shouldn't a guy agree with you right now?

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<v Speaker 4>The text war.

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<v Speaker 1>When a guy says there's a couple of women who

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<v Speaker 1>think they're my girlfriend, it's usually a pretty big red flag.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, Rick man, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 5>It looks like you're gonna have to block Matthew in

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<v Speaker 5>your phone now, So darn I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think Matthew's blocking him.

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<v Speaker 6>Double ye yeah whatever things anyways, I guess I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Look how heartbroken he is.

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<v Speaker 2>This one hurts what girlfriend is? He's going to rush

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<v Speaker 2>home to let me get out.

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<v Speaker 4>The Bible and I'll find out. Gabriel. Oh no, he's

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<v Speaker 4>the saucy one. Jeffrey in the morning.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought it was a good point Alexis brought up

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<v Speaker 5>because it saying, but you know, it does sound like

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<v Speaker 5>it's an okay idea to do with just a couple

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<v Speaker 5>of names. But when you're juggling a bunch of different

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<v Speaker 5>dudes names, swapping him out for girls names, it's gotta

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<v Speaker 5>get really really confusing, really fast.

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<v Speaker 4>Really, my friend matters.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard enough to remember people's regular names, let alone

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<v Speaker 1>the pseudoname.

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<v Speaker 3>Like a guy that's just calculated before he does anything wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't trust before he does anything wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>He just said that multiple girls think that they're not

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<v Speaker 3>an actual trouble yet.

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<v Speaker 4>Imagine organized.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, before you know, he's gonna end up talking to

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<v Speaker 5>some girl named Elizabeth but accidentally call her Hank, and then.

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<v Speaker 4>It'll be super awkward.

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<v Speaker 5>Hopefully we did him a favor by exposing this early

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<v Speaker 5>on in his questionable dating strategy.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really want to do him any favors.

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<v Speaker 5>Trust he needs some help, Brooke, Come on, if he's

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<v Speaker 5>doing this, he's desperate. Just remember you could check out

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<v Speaker 5>our podcast wherever you get yours Apple, Spotify, iHeart, We're.

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<v Speaker 4>Gonna be there. Just look us up at Brook and

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<v Speaker 4>Jeffrey