Speaker 1: Welcome to Bucks Insider Live Casey Phillips, who was senior
Speaker 1: writer and editor Scott Smith, and we have a week
Speaker 1: one win to talk about, always our favorite on this show,
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna of course look ahead of the
Speaker 1: Saints game, and if you have any questions for us,
Speaker 1: you can leave those underneath our Facebook live video will
Speaker 1: get to those in a minute. So of course, as always,
Speaker 1: we just like to start with major takeaways from the game,
Speaker 1: which is always a more fun segment after a win,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, sure is. Obviously that was a defensive
Speaker 1: driven game and it was a dominant defensive performance, and
Speaker 1: that's where you should begin when describing how the Buccaneers
Speaker 1: won that game. But honestly, the biggest takeaway from me
Speaker 1: was that the offensive line performed a lot better than
Speaker 1: probably a lot of people outside the building anticipated that
Speaker 1: it would. Now to be clear, there was plenty of
Speaker 1: confidence in that line inside the building, and particularly Jason
Speaker 1: Latt has been outspoken about how the Buccaneers have confidence,
Speaker 1: particularly in the two young guys Robert Hainsey and Lukettiki
Speaker 1: playing center and left card and we have talked, i
Speaker 1: think this show about how those guys were drafted to
Speaker 1: become starters. It was a third round pick on Hainzy.
Speaker 1: They didn't know if they're gonna be able to resign
Speaker 1: Ryan Jensen, so they had anticipated him, you know, taking
Speaker 1: over at some point. And when they drafted Luke Getticky
Speaker 1: in the second round, they said, this guy's competing right
Speaker 1: now for the starting left guard job, which he won.
Speaker 1: The offensive line performed very well. They actually ran the
Speaker 1: ball extremely well. Leonard Fournet did to the left side
Speaker 1: behind Luke Ettickey and and um Donovan Smith and then
Speaker 1: Josh Wells and tight ends over there as well. Both
Speaker 1: both of the rookie Titans did a great job blocking
Speaker 1: according to the coaches. And it was just a really
Speaker 1: encouraging performance by those guys. And I had Luke Getticky
Speaker 1: on our Salty Dogs podcast yesterday and he was he
Speaker 1: was saying that it was a huge boost of confidence
Speaker 1: for him and and that's good. He said that they
Speaker 1: feel a lot better moving forward. They got that first
Speaker 1: game in it was against some pretty good defensive front
Speaker 1: and they not only held their own, they kind of
Speaker 1: dominated at times. To me, that's the biggest takeaway from
Speaker 1: the game. And in a broader perspective. I think it
Speaker 1: shows that while this team has been passing attack driven
Speaker 1: with Tom Brady the best passing attack in the league
Speaker 1: the last two years, and there's gonna be some huge
Speaker 1: days for those guys, I have no doubt whatsoever. But
Speaker 1: this team might have a different formula some weeks for winning.
Speaker 1: And it's kind of harkens back the old buck in
Speaker 1: your days of really good defense and a really good
Speaker 1: running game. Yeah, and to know you can do that.
Speaker 1: And I agree with you about the confidence on the
Speaker 1: old line. I mean, I think this game it had
Speaker 1: all the elements of what you want to feel confident
Speaker 1: that it's prime time and it's you know, the first
Speaker 1: game the season, and it is again it's a good
Speaker 1: defensive front. Where it's one thing to just have a
Speaker 1: game under your belt, it's another for it to have
Speaker 1: all those different elements of under the bright lights in
Speaker 1: the big moment, that you can do that against a
Speaker 1: good defensive front, that you're right that now it's like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: what else could be thrown at us? Although again this
Speaker 1: week going to one of the loudest, hardest places, I
Speaker 1: do think it'll be a great test for not just
Speaker 1: their ability to play but their communication will be it
Speaker 1: will be a good test and we'll see if they
Speaker 1: can string some games like that together in a row.
Speaker 1: But you know, they also only allowed two sacks of
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, and that's one of the things that's been
Speaker 1: a really good harbinger for sets for the Buccaneers in
Speaker 1: since Tom Brady got here, when they have allowed zero
Speaker 1: to two sacks in a game, look at that three
Speaker 1: and two. So keeping the pressure off of Tom Brady
Speaker 1: is paramount, and they did that. Brady appreciates it to Yeah,
Speaker 1: and now there's you can and they didn't. They only
Speaker 1: committed five penalties. That's been good. They had barely had
Speaker 1: positive points off of turnovers. It was one each and
Speaker 1: we gotta field goal and they didn't. But still it counts.
Speaker 1: And then that run twenty one plus times. Now it
Speaker 1: is very true that that is not always causitive, but
Speaker 1: I didn't choose thirty plus runs. I chose twenty one,
Speaker 1: which is not a ton. I mean, that's that's a
Speaker 1: normal number. So you can get there without being game specific.
Speaker 1: You can run twenty one times in a game, whether
Speaker 1: you're ahead or behind or whatever. Fourteen and three. So listen,
Speaker 1: if the Buccaneers can do this. I'm not saying it's
Speaker 1: gonna happen every week. I'm just saying we might win
Speaker 1: some games in a different way than we've been used
Speaker 1: to seeing the last couple of years. And I know
Speaker 1: I asked Todd Bowls about that on our radio show
Speaker 1: of is this a game plan that is the Odd
Speaker 1: Bowls ideal game plan? And he said, no, the Todd
Speaker 1: Bowls ideal game plan is what the game decides. That
Speaker 1: which I think is it speaks to either way that
Speaker 1: it's there is not going to be one formula. But
Speaker 1: now the team knows that whether it is the deep
Speaker 1: ball passes, it is a past heavy game like Week
Speaker 1: one of last year we're growing fifty times, or it's
Speaker 1: this way, I think, And yeah, so we know that
Speaker 1: whatever it can be done in any way. And that
Speaker 1: that's what Bowls really seems to be. You know, harping
Speaker 1: on is that, Look, we're not just going to say
Speaker 1: this is what we do, no matter what. Each game
Speaker 1: could be different, and now we know we can do
Speaker 1: it a bunch of different The key there is that
Speaker 1: if you have to do it that way, you're capable
Speaker 1: of doing which is going to be great and so
Speaker 1: now I know another area that doesn't always get the love,
Speaker 1: doesn't always get the attention. But it was a storyline
Speaker 1: coming out of the preseason was the special teams that
Speaker 1: there were some games in the preseason where the performance,
Speaker 1: you know, whether it was the coverage or missing a
Speaker 1: couple of field goals or whatever it might be, wasn't
Speaker 1: what the team was hoping for, even the return game
Speaker 1: all of that. So what were the things that you
Speaker 1: felt like you a week one from the special teams front, coverage, return,
Speaker 1: actual kick games. Well, it's not just the preseason. It
Speaker 1: dates back to the last year where there were some
Speaker 1: areas of the special teams that we're not up to
Speaker 1: what the standard, what the team wanted in in a game,
Speaker 1: especially in games like against the Saints, it was it
Speaker 1: was it was common that they would have a special
Speaker 1: team's edge because they would kick and they would cover
Speaker 1: better than we would. And then yeah, and the special teams,
Speaker 1: there were some coverage issues and some long returns, but
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles explained that they were having Jay Camarta just
Speaker 1: blasted as far as he could. So they were trying
Speaker 1: specifically not to get fair catches because they wanted to
Speaker 1: evaluate a bunch of cover guys and then they did,
Speaker 1: and there was a lot of guys and not all
Speaker 1: of them are on the team right now, and so
Speaker 1: it really isn't what we're doing now. The special teams
Speaker 1: in that game in Dallas probably wasn't the winning is
Speaker 1: because the defense was so dominant. We won by sixteen points,
Speaker 1: but if that game had been close, special teams might
Speaker 1: have been the edge right there. You know, Ryan stuck
Speaker 1: Up made four of his five field goals. Jake Comarta
Speaker 1: lasted a sixty five yard or he had one off
Speaker 1: the scoreboard that didn't count, but overall his other two
Speaker 1: points were one was fair hot for like a forty
Speaker 1: something in our net and one was returned for three yards.
Speaker 1: And they have a really dangerous return man. So there
Speaker 1: were some numbers coming out of that game, like the
Speaker 1: kickoff drive start for the Cowboys, like where they started
Speaker 1: after the kickoffs on average was yards and that was
Speaker 1: the best in the league. That was a lot better
Speaker 1: than what the Buccaneers were getting last year. So uh,
Speaker 1: I mean, here here's some of it right there. The
Speaker 1: kickoff drive start first average. Actually I made a mistake there.
Speaker 1: That punch drive start was not first it was fifth,
Speaker 1: but still pretty good. Sorry about the the typo there,
Speaker 1: but gross playing average, net, putting average and Kate dot
Speaker 1: h three attack. He was blowing people up the special
Speaker 1: teams and kJ Britt also had two tackles, so there
Speaker 1: were a lot of nice performances on special teams and
Speaker 1: it came together into what could have been a winning edge.
Speaker 1: Had been a really close kid. That is amazing to
Speaker 1: see with Kaide because as we talked about his contributions
Speaker 1: to this team, I don't think we mentioned special teams.
Speaker 1: I don't think I was thinking at any point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't believe we thought that that was going to
Speaker 1: be where he could make some of his biggest contributions.
Speaker 1: So that's just icing on the cave. And Hey, before
Speaker 1: the game on the radio, Jason I was talking about
Speaker 1: all the rookies that were gonna make an impact. And
Speaker 1: this is a very veteran team. We have like fifteen
Speaker 1: guys or a thirty year older. But ka Dot awesome
Speaker 1: and special teams, very good blocking, Jake camarda Luke Gettick.
Speaker 1: He had a great game. Shotwhite didn't get to play
Speaker 1: a ton, but he looked pretty good when he did.
Speaker 1: Um I'm probably forgetting with somebody. But I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot there's a lot of different
Speaker 1: coach in there for well early on they all got
Speaker 1: in there. That's going to be so interesting. Well, how
Speaker 1: don't we take a look now at the Saints game
Speaker 1: and what are some of the biggest things that we know?
Speaker 1: This is a team we know very well. So this
Speaker 1: team this year, new head coach, a few new pieces.
Speaker 1: What is going to be in your mind similar or
Speaker 1: different to the other matchups that and especially what we
Speaker 1: hope will be different is a win as compared to
Speaker 1: the last seven regular season matchups, but not the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Not the playoffs where you know, I'll segue into this
Speaker 1: by saying, have you seen our injury report this week? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I was. I was trying to forget. I think they
Speaker 1: should just put offense questionable, right you and are going
Speaker 1: to get called Potentially five of the seven receivers are
Speaker 1: on the injury report for the Bucks. The reason I
Speaker 1: bring that up, not to bring this whole um, is
Speaker 1: that the Saints have a new look receiving corps and
Speaker 1: it's something that has me a little bit concerned in
Speaker 1: this matchup. Um Michael Thomas has it's most of the
Speaker 1: last two years and he's played seven games. Uh, he's back,
Speaker 1: and it was a sort of a question mark is
Speaker 1: he fully healthy coming in the season when I scored
Speaker 1: two touchdowns. They signed Jarvis Landry kind of late in
Speaker 1: the offseason after the draft. You see the day that
Speaker 1: he had, and most of this was like in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, by the way, because they couldn't get their
Speaker 1: passing game going for the whole first half. And uh,
Speaker 1: and then Crystal Lobby is the guy. They took him
Speaker 1: eleventh overall, but that was after several trades. So the
Speaker 1: amount of draft capital they poured into getting Crystal Lovey
Speaker 1: was actually pretty huge. This is what they have now.
Speaker 1: Last year it was no Michael Thomas. It was it
Speaker 1: was a bunch of guys that you had barely heard of.
Speaker 1: And it really they sunk to actually the worst passing
Speaker 1: attack in the league, thirty second in passing. I think
Speaker 1: they're looking a lot difference. Jameis Winston is back, He's
Speaker 1: he's healthy, and he's leading that band there and they
Speaker 1: have a treeo receivers that is going to test our guys. Now,
Speaker 1: our guys. Uh did a great job in coverage in
Speaker 1: the Dallas game. But Dallas had Ceedee Lamb and then
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys that you haven't basically heard of. Well,
Speaker 1: it'll be a bigger test now. Carlton Davis and Jamal
Speaker 1: Deane were great in coverage. Antoine Winfield did really well
Speaker 1: in the slot, and I think there, I know they're
Speaker 1: up for the challenge, but it is a bigger challenge
Speaker 1: this week. Yeah. So speaking of that, we do have
Speaker 1: a Facebook question here. Um Kyle wanted to know why
Speaker 1: did Sean Murphy Bunty not get more time in the secondary?
Speaker 1: Well he didn't get any actual yes, yeah, well that
Speaker 1: he kind of put that out of trying to make nice. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: because Jamal Deane won the starting job, Antoine Winfield was
Speaker 1: in the slot, and and before we had three corners
Speaker 1: playing a lot because you're in nickel a lot in
Speaker 1: the third corner was on the field. With Antoine Winfield
Speaker 1: getting all the slots slot snaps in this game, there
Speaker 1: just wasn't a package that they needed Shawn and for.
Speaker 1: But coach Bowls has said they did ask some other
Speaker 1: things that would have involved Sean and maybe even Ken O'Neil,
Speaker 1: who also didn't play on defense. They just didn't get
Speaker 1: to them because of what the Cowboys were doing and
Speaker 1: what the Bucks were doing was working. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think that's the key right there. Now we know we
Speaker 1: have a very good player and Sean Murphy Bunting available
Speaker 1: to play, and he didn't get a chance in this game,
Speaker 1: but in this particular name, what they were doing was working.
Speaker 1: And if it is, you stick with every stick with it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And we were talking about the wide receiver uh injuries here,
Speaker 1: Chad wanted to know now that Chris Godwin is out
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks, would Julio be that number two?
Speaker 1: Then e Gauge, then Perriman or what do you see
Speaker 1: as the order there? And also depending on the different
Speaker 1: injury situation, I think I think I'll answer the question
Speaker 1: on an assumption that everybody's healthy, and I don't think
Speaker 1: that's actually a valid assumption because I doubt that all
Speaker 1: five of those guys on the injury report are gonna
Speaker 1: be fine for this game. But in terms of health,
Speaker 1: if Chris god wasn't there and everybody else is available,
Speaker 1: I think Julio Jones is probably your second outside guy
Speaker 1: along with Mike Evans and Russell Gauge is your primary
Speaker 1: slot guy. Now, maybe in just a two receiver set,
Speaker 1: it's probably a mixture of Russell Gauge and Julio Jones.
Speaker 1: But if you have three on the field, which you
Speaker 1: do what you do usually the snaps, it's probably Mike
Speaker 1: and Julio on the outside and Russell Gage in the slot. Okay,
Speaker 1: And then Richard asked, what is going on with Kyle
Speaker 1: Rudolph that he was not active? I thought he would
Speaker 1: be a good blocker. Well, I mean probably would be.
Speaker 1: But the Buck Singers have been very happy with the
Speaker 1: way that Kate Dotton and co Keept in particular have
Speaker 1: been blocking. And both those guys did prove good in
Speaker 1: that regard in that game. But Coach Bull said yesterday
Speaker 1: that the difference was special teams and they stats there.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you didn't have Kate Dotton on those
Speaker 1: coverage units, it might have been worse. Right, So, um,
Speaker 1: both of those guys contributed on special teams and they
Speaker 1: didn't really have a role for Kyle on special teams.
Speaker 1: And part of the thing here is A you're keeping
Speaker 1: up six receivers and B you got to name six
Speaker 1: guys inactive right there, isn't a whole lot of chaff
Speaker 1: on that defensive side. You have four corners because I
Speaker 1: call him out, you got four safeties, You've got four
Speaker 1: outside linebackers plus one you elevated, and Genard Avery got
Speaker 1: four inside linebackers, and just you're looking to go where
Speaker 1: we're going to find an inactive from and you mostly
Speaker 1: have to take from offense. So we notably only kept
Speaker 1: three backs and three tight ends active. And they felt
Speaker 1: felt with the special team's contributions that Kate and Kyle
Speaker 1: would make it made more sense to keep them up. Okay,
Speaker 1: and then we will close with this one, Christopher said.
Speaker 1: Or the Bucks looking to sign another offensive lineman since
Speaker 1: the Donovan Smith injury. Oh no, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I don't think this is a long term thing at all. Um,
Speaker 1: we know how tough Donovan is, right, they called this
Speaker 1: a pain coach called it a pain Tons issue. Now,
Speaker 1: if he doesn't play, I don't want to sound like
Speaker 1: we're calling out his toughness. He's extremely tough. He's missed
Speaker 1: one game since he was drafted in two thousand fifteen,
Speaker 1: and we know at times he's played through injuries to
Speaker 1: make that happen. So if it, if there's a player
Speaker 1: who can get through a pain tolerance issue, it's done
Speaker 1: and done it now. It could just be too bad
Speaker 1: that he can't play. We'll see later in the week,
Speaker 1: but I don't think this is a long term thing,
Speaker 1: so I doubt they'll sign anybody. All right, Well that's
Speaker 1: gonna do it for us on this edition of Bucks
Speaker 1: Insider Live. Thanks as always for joining us, and we'll
Speaker 1: be back here next week, so make sure he's in
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