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Speaker 3: Safe baby transfer. More important radio ratings, yes, yes, okay,

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Speaker 3: so uh seriously things going on here? President Trump is

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Speaker 1: He looks like I think he's leaving for Florida, because

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Speaker 1: monitoring this. He's talking about anti ice chaos in Minneapolis,

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Speaker 1: are continued fallout in Minneapolis. They have been showing even

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Speaker 1: continuing this morning, protesters gathering around the ice raids that

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Speaker 1: this exchange with a Hill reporter. This guy's name is

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Speaker 4: Died a nice custom be Last year, one hundred and

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Speaker 4: seventy US citizens were detained by Ice and Renee Good

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Speaker 5: Why was Renee Good unfortunately and tragically killed?

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Speaker 4: Are you asking me my opinion because an ice shaped

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because you're a left wing hack. You're not a reporter.

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Speaker 5: Reporting on the sacks. You should re reporting on the cases.

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Speaker 5: Do you have the numbers of how many American citizens

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Speaker 5: were killed at the hands of illegal aliens who ICE

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Speaker 3: His whole routine was just to get up in her

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, I do think that this is an

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Speaker 1: By and large, here's an easy question. How many people

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Speaker 1: And so I think I think what she illuminated and

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Speaker 2: And they need to be deported.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and you know who agrees with them. This is

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Speaker 1: John Fetterman is saying, yeah, that what we're seeing in

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Speaker 2: Cut ten.

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Speaker 7: We have the ice protests going on. There's a lot

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Speaker 2: My views have always.

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Speaker 9: Been I reject the extreme on either side those things.

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Speaker 2: So it's tragedy.

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Speaker 9: I agree for the six year old they lost his mother,

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Speaker 1: For a Democrat book, that's about as good as you

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Speaker 1: When I say remarkable, it's not surprising, it's just you

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Speaker 3: And that guy who had like the beard who was

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Speaker 3: Here is Tom Holman making a very important point. This

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Speaker 11: Look, Mayor Fry and the government could end this right now,

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Speaker 11: thank you, saying Ice, we want to work with you.

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Speaker 11: We're going to let you into our jails, and we're

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Speaker 2: Than violence, Clay.

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Speaker 3: They are the cause of this. Yes, that is what

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Speaker 1: now by Ryan and Ryan let's start here. You've got

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Speaker 1: a really interesting piece about the politics, meaning the actual

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Speaker 2: So twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: Will have under the existing electoral college we've talked about

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Speaker 1: this sum on the program, Democrats are in for a

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Speaker 2: The so called blue Wall.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So the way that the math is looking currently,

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Speaker 3: Ryan, tell us what you think the numbers say about

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Speaker 3: the immigration enforcement operations, because right now, you know, sometimes

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Speaker 3: Is there a real reason to believe that the operations

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Speaker 3: Is it just some areas because for the Trump voter,

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Speaker 3: this is what we voted. I see this, I'm like, yes, more,

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Speaker 6: The same No, immigration enforcement is one of those things

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Speaker 6: that they love in theory, not necessarily in practice. So

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Speaker 6: mas ICE agents very unpopular. The whole idea of not

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Speaker 6: having uniformed very unpopular, unmarked cars unpopular. The idea of

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Speaker 6: enforcing immigration law is very popular. Trump's on the border,

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Speaker 6: which is set of immigration to borders when a few

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Speaker 6: areas where Trump is still in the positive territory. I

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Speaker 6: also have a belief system is if something about you

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Speaker 6: bothers a certain politician, it's almost like nothing that they

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Speaker 6: can do can be positive. So Trump has negative marks

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Speaker 6: for Venezuela and for the Middle East, which were overwhelmingly

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Speaker 6: successful initiatives. I think that for a lot of people,

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Speaker 6: the tariffs and the economy, and the fact that prices

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Speaker 6: it would not, that inflation hasn't slow which it has

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Speaker 6: but that prices haven't come down. Because that hasn't happened,

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Speaker 6: and we are dealing with the hangover of Biden inflation

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Speaker 6: So because that hasn't happened, they've soured almost everything that

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Speaker 6: Donald Trump has done. That's why I kind of don't

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Speaker 6: think the ICE enforcement is the reason people are having

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Speaker 6: this negative opinion about it. Obviously, the rank Good story

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Speaker 6: was not a positive story for ICE agents. However, if

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Speaker 6: you look at the idea of enforcing immigration, Americans are supportive.

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Speaker 6: There's a very very smart progressive polster who actually asked

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Speaker 6: all the different Democratic positions, and the most popular position

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Speaker 6: right now is actually AOC's position, which was saying that

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Speaker 6: ICE should be reformed. And what they're saying, this is

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Speaker 6: what Democrats are going to go forward, saying that the

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Speaker 6: money for ICE was taken out of your health care funding.

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Speaker 6: That is the play that got the highest numbers as

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Speaker 6: far as polling goes in private polling, and that is

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Speaker 6: most likely what David show that was the person who

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Speaker 6: does David Short's other and SI that is what Democrats

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is super important and I'm gonna be honest.

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Speaker 1: Years ago when I found this out for the first time,

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Speaker 1: it was mind blowing to me. I still don't think

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Speaker 1: it's very widely known in the United States, illegal immigrants

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Speaker 1: are counted for per poses of House districts, right, so

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Speaker 1: everybody has to represent seven hundred and thirty thousand or

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Speaker 1: whatever the current math is. And to your point on Minneapolis,

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Speaker 1: state of Minnesota in general, as in theory, these two

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Speaker 1: point five million, if that number is right, illegals who

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Speaker 1: have left the country this year, As that continues, if

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Speaker 1: it does in twenty seven, twenty six, and into twenty eight,

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Speaker 1: it would be a seismic impact when it came to

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Speaker 1: reassociate reallocating the seats for the census. Isn't that really

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Speaker 1: what this fight is ultimately about, That Democrats are seeing

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Speaker 1: that and if this pace continued, and if the numbers

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Speaker 1: are right and suddenly we had ten million illegals in

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Speaker 1: the country instead of ten million, instead of twenty million,

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Speaker 1: that would dramatically change the overall calibration of House Democrats seats.

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Speaker 1: I think it isn't being talked about enough. That actually

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Speaker 1: seems like the root battle.

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Speaker 6: Here, right, So my point I wrote this for the

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Speaker 6: National Popeist Newsletter. This will be on my podcast for

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Speaker 6: the Monday episode. I'm going to dive very deep into this.

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Speaker 6: It is about what happened in Minnesota. So since January,

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Speaker 6: about five thousand illegal aliens have been arrested in Minnesota,

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Speaker 6: which is quite about two percent of the entire illegal

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Speaker 6: alien population estimated. Right there was a big ray. Twenty

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Speaker 6: four hundred were arrested. The number of people that Illinois

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Speaker 6: had to have to retain their eighth congressional district was

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Speaker 6: eighty nine, So they had eighty nine fewer people they

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Speaker 6: would have not had the eighth Congression district, which is

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Speaker 6: a Democrat district. Now it would have gone to New York.

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Speaker 6: New York I would have had given a Democrat anyway.

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Speaker 6: But when you look at a broader scale of the thousands,

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Speaker 6: of the tens of thousands, of the hundreds of thousands,

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Speaker 6: when you look at Illinois, New York, New Jersey, Minnesota,

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Speaker 6: Rhode Island, California, all those places, you're talking about a

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Speaker 6: massive reduction in polit power, especially in these places that

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Speaker 6: have you know, Jerry Mannered six space from Sunday, all

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Speaker 6: the different Republican seats, there's not a lot of Republican

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Speaker 6: seats left for Illinois to cut out. I mean they

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Speaker 6: only have three. They have to lose Democratic seats new

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Speaker 6: York still. I mean New York's not that Jerrymander, but

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Speaker 6: California definitely is. Those are Democratic seats, Those are Democrat

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Speaker 6: electoral college votes that they're going to be losing for

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Speaker 6: the twenty thirty two election. All that stuff really matters

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Speaker 6: to the potential of the Democrats, especially to the political

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Speaker 6: influence of places like Minnesota and California, and so all

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Speaker 6: of this stuff really matters. There was a Brookings Institute

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Speaker 6: study that just came out that says they're going to

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Speaker 6: lose if our ormborne population decreased by about one hundred

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Speaker 6: thousand this year and it will be about five hundred

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Speaker 6: thousand next year. If that's coming out of New York

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Speaker 6: and California, those numbers that I said, those not eight

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Speaker 6: electoral college but that they're losing, that could easily go

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Speaker 6: to nine or ten by the end of the decade.

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Speaker 6: If Trump is able to carry this out, and if

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Speaker 6: we elect another republic who carries it out through the decade,

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Speaker 6: there's no reason why a dozen seats will not be

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Speaker 6: redistributed away from not only those blue seats, but probably

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Speaker 6: towards places like Alabama or Ohio, places that don't have

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Speaker 6: large form born populations. You mentioned about illegally allies being cantaded.

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Speaker 6: I'll give you this one specistic very quickly. Rocanna.

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Speaker 3: No hold, Ryan Ryan, Actually Ryan Ryan slowed down a

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Speaker 3: little bit because everyone said, you got plenty of time,

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Speaker 3: Slow down and tell everybody this is going to be

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Speaker 3: an important stat I think I know which one you're

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Speaker 3: going to talk about, so please take your time.

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Speaker 6: Okay. So, California seventeen district is congress from Rocanni's probably

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Speaker 6: running for presidents in northern California. A two hundred and

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Speaker 6: fifty five thousand people voted in the twenty twenty four

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Speaker 6: election in that district. In California, he won with one

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Speaker 6: hundred and seventy thousand votes. If you look at a

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Speaker 6: regular district in Ohio, Ohio's fourth, Ohio's fifth, these are

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Speaker 6: Republican districts. A Republican, just the Republican has to get

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Speaker 6: a quarter of a million votes to win. Threshold for

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Speaker 6: a Maxine Waters to run, or a Ndia Vasquez or

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Speaker 6: rocannor or any of these Democrats and these big blue

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Speaker 6: states is much much lower. They have to get fewer

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Speaker 6: votes because so many people are ineligible to those because

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Speaker 6: they are foreign born residents.

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Speaker 1: This is buck Did you know this?

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Speaker 3: Because I think it's one of them why I subscribe

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Speaker 3: to is National Populist Newsletter.

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Speaker 2: Very good information.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the great underdiscussed data points that should

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Speaker 1: be a point of huge discussion because when you look

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Speaker 1: at it, you say, oh, this is because people. This

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Speaker 1: was where their power comes from. The more illegals that

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Speaker 1: flood into these districts, the more seats they get, the

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Speaker 1: more power they have. That to me is such a

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Speaker 1: huge part of the narrative thread that explains why they

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Speaker 1: fight so hard here. Why do they make kilmar Braille

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Speaker 1: Garcia the face of their comp of their of their

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Speaker 1: entire party. It's basically a company. It's because they have

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Speaker 1: to what kind of getting to the ay gritty here, Ryan,

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Speaker 1: how many seats if we did not count illegal immigrants

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Speaker 1: as a part of the overall census for representation in Congress,

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Speaker 1: which to me.

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Speaker 2: Actually we that should be the law.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but let's pretend that there were no illegal immigrants

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Speaker 1: in the country, So twenty million people out of the country.

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Speaker 1: How many seats do we think that would cost Democrats

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Speaker 1: in the House.

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Speaker 6: Roughly it would cost I mean, this is something that

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Speaker 6: they've kind of calculated and miscalculated because it's very, very

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Speaker 6: difficult because obviously, over time illegal aliens sometimes do become

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Speaker 6: citizens and switch status. It would be around about a

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Speaker 6: dozen seats overall, mostly out of California. The thing is

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Speaker 6: that Texas would lose seats as well, and so as

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Speaker 6: well as Flara. It's not so much a question of

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Speaker 6: just blue states versus red states. It's also regional apportionment. Pennsylvania, Ohio, Alabama,

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Speaker 6: the South as a whole, and the Midwest as a

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Speaker 6: whole are robbed out of seats because they lose because

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Speaker 6: they just don't attract huge populations of four important but

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Speaker 6: certainly California would be down about almost four or five

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Speaker 6: seats on its own, let alone New York, New Jersey, Illinois.

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Speaker 6: It's overall about ten to twelve seats, depending on who's

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Speaker 6: calculating the numbers.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing Ryan, you think about how a lot of

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Speaker 3: even Republicans who have been on this for years, maybe decades,

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Speaker 3: have been pointing out to this is transforming the electorate

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Speaker 3: in the future by bringing in people who are you know,

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Speaker 3: if their parents were illegal, they're more likely to be

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Speaker 3: maybe Democrats if they're born here, and all these things.

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Speaker 3: But it actually changes the electorate, and it changes the

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Speaker 3: political balance of power right now. To have all these

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Speaker 3: illegals here, I think that's been the real revelation.

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Speaker 6: Right and listen, if President Trump continues on his path

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Speaker 6: to make sure that certain people's can't come here, reducing

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Speaker 6: legal immigration as well as an important concept, and deporting illegals.

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Speaker 6: This is not just about this year or next year.

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Speaker 6: This is the twenty thirty decade. That is three presidential

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Speaker 6: elections where Democrats will have an almost a monument. I mean,

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Speaker 6: if the Georgia changes. Who knows that the immense scale

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Speaker 6: of they have to run up in order to have

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Speaker 6: a president elected for that decade really matters in the

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Speaker 6: next three years. If President Trump backed pedals on this

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Speaker 6: or gives up, or the political pressure becomes too much,

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Speaker 6: a Democrats defund ice or whatever, that's really what they're

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Speaker 6: looking at. It's not about tomorrow. It is about the

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Speaker 6: twenty thirty decade, and it will be a very difficult

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Speaker 6: decade for Democrats to win if they don't have this

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Speaker 6: population of the legal alien surging in places like California

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Speaker 6: and New York, New Jersey, Illinois. Stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: Play.

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Speaker 3: This guy knows a lot. I think he should have

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Speaker 3: a podcast where he talks about politiciss Well, how can

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Speaker 3: again to Buck's point, please go subscribe to the podcast

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Speaker 3: part of the Clay and Buck podcast network.

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Speaker 6: Yes, go on the Clay and Buck podcast network. It

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Speaker 6: is on iHeartRadio app a the Apple podcasts where you

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Speaker 6: and I dive into all these numbers all the time.

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Speaker 1: Awesome, appreciate the work Ryan. I hope you guys enjoyed

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Speaker 1: that as much as we did.

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Speaker 2: John?

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Speaker 12: Hey, guys in honor to talk to you. Guys in

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Speaker 2: That's very kind, Thank you, John.

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Speaker 12: Very proud of how you guys have acted or you know,

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Speaker 12: a lot of people just don't understand self defense. But

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Speaker 12: my point is is that I was full time deputy

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Speaker 12: for eight years, never used my health insurance. I went

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Speaker 12: part time to become a full time school resource officer

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Speaker 12: as a contract employee because the school didn't have a

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Speaker 12: resource officer and it was a little bit less stressed,

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Speaker 12: more money. But then, of course my appendix ruptures. Two

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Speaker 12: months after I go off of health insurance. Five days

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Speaker 12: in the hospital over one hundred thousand dollars hospital bill.

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Speaker 6: Well a ninety percent cash discount.

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Speaker 12: And then I looked up how much it would it

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Speaker 6: It was a wash.

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Speaker 12: It's gonna be about the same price. So in right now,

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Speaker 12: health insurance costs so much it's still not making sense

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Speaker 12: to purchase health insurance. So the point of my story

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Speaker 2: This John, it's great.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for calling in, and thank you for keeping

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Speaker 3: As we know, sometimes the price for people with health

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Speaker 3: insurance is more, yeah than people without any insurance, because

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Speaker 3: they know they can gouge you.

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Speaker 1: I talked about this as the incompetent dad that I am.

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Speaker 1: Same week, we had multiple kids that got strapped throat

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Speaker 1: went to get them tested. My wife, of course, had

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Speaker 2: I did not.

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Speaker 1: I got charged way less because I didn't have my

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Speaker 1: insurance card. When we come back, Secretary of Agriculture Brook

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