Speaker 1: To Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Cambridge Edge.
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of to Tea's and
Speaker 2: a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Hey, I'm so
Speaker 2: Apparently Jim Bellino thought he would clear things up by
Speaker 2: going on Kelly Dodd and her husband Rick Levinthal's Patreon,
Speaker 2: which I'm a little bit confused by this because I
Speaker 2: had thought that Kelly Dodd said she wasn't ever going
Speaker 2: to recap Orange County anymore because it was so terrible?
Speaker 2: Am I Am I wrong on that statement? No, right,
Speaker 2: that happened, But yet here we are. Jim Bellino went
Speaker 2: on their show. He's shared his thoughts on his ex
Speaker 2: wife Alexis and on Jensen's relationship. He said, I'm devastated,
Speaker 2: can you tell? He joked after being asked about Alexis
Speaker 2: and John, and he said, honestly, I check in with
Speaker 2: my children. I'm a good dad. What I really care
Speaker 2: about is how the person that Alexis is with affects
Speaker 2: my children. I hear nothing but good things. He's what
Speaker 2: a gentleman? Well that's what I'm what a gentleman? Because
Speaker 2: if there was ever a time to take a swing.
Speaker 2: That was it, right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, this guy's so far a class at Good for
Speaker 3: you because what he said, you know, what I care
Speaker 3: about is what you know how he is with my kids.
Speaker 3: That's great, and you do want your exes to move on,
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: But also he does have a little bit of a problem.
Speaker 2: He does have a little bit of skin in the
Speaker 2: game because he originally allegedly I don't know the exact amounts,
Speaker 2: but sued Shannon and Tamra for going on a Heather
Speaker 2: McDonald live show and for disparaging comments or whatever it
Speaker 2: may be. So clearly he has a lot to gain
Speaker 2: with showing that Alexis is doing the right thing once
Speaker 2: again and blah blah blah, or you just do it.
Speaker 2: I mean. But also, how can you say that somebody's
Speaker 2: an opportunist or not when you're going on a podcast,
Speaker 2: you're no longer having a platform and you're willing to share.
Speaker 2: Are you talking about him? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Well, look, if you don't want to be in it,
Speaker 3: then you stop talking about it. The longer you talk
Speaker 3: about it, the more life you give it. I think
Speaker 3: that's true with anything, and certainly in the housewives world.
Speaker 3: So anybody that wants to be on the show certainly
Speaker 3: is welcoming that attention and welcoming that conversation to persist.
Speaker 2: When Jim was then asked if he'd be happy when
Speaker 2: Alexis and John Webb because it would mean he would
Speaker 2: no longer have to pay her alimony, Jim seemingly denied
Speaker 2: that was the case. That's actually something I can't comment
Speaker 2: on regarding the alimony because that's an up in the
Speaker 2: air subject whether alimony would stop or not. Isn't that
Speaker 2: like in.
Speaker 3: Law don't know, never got any so that lawsuits instead
Speaker 3: and a whole lot of other shit, wouldn't know.
Speaker 2: I do think in most I feel like I could
Speaker 2: probably go into my prenup. I think that once you're married,
Speaker 2: alimony stops.
Speaker 3: In most cases, yes, you become the other guy's problem
Speaker 3: with the other guy's expense.
Speaker 2: Child support, however, does not stop until the age of
Speaker 2: eighteen or twenty one, if they're going to call it
Speaker 2: that's right or right? Okay, I mean not that I
Speaker 2: not that I've researched brushed up on any honey, But yeah, no,
Speaker 2: I am quite aware.
Speaker 3: Knowledge is power.
Speaker 2: Knowledge is power. So we are on season eighteen, episode ten,
Speaker 2: the girls get ready for dinner. Emily tells Alexis the
Speaker 2: videos came up that the situation is getting dirty and mean. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Alexis says it's hard on her too, and everyone is
Speaker 2: taking pity on Shannon. Alexis decides not to join everyone
Speaker 2: at dinner. Did Alexis, in your opinion, make the right
Speaker 2: decision to stay in her room?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think that there's no winning with Alexis going to dinner.
Speaker 3: Let Shinnon have a moment of peace, and you know,
Speaker 3: the story'll still be there. It's not like it's going anywhere,
Speaker 3: So that's that doesn't bother me.
Speaker 2: But my favorite part was when Alexis says this. I
Speaker 2: assumed Emily would have like been like, come on, let's go.
Speaker 3: She said okay, which I kind of appreciated because I
Speaker 3: wish that that would happen somewhere with me, Like yeah, girl,
Speaker 3: go ahead, you got it fine.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Well, it's also like when people run out and everybody
Speaker 3: runs after them.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and then they have the booms and people.
Speaker 3: Are so yeah, you know the women on the show.
Speaker 3: I'm like, just that broad run off, like can we
Speaker 3: sit here and have a cocktail?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I feel like Alexis wanted Emily to be like, no, please.
Speaker 3: Well didn't happen, so you got to You got the
Speaker 3: night off in your room for twelve hours, like she
Speaker 3: told us.
Speaker 2: But I feel like she might have the rest of
Speaker 2: the season off until the end because we don't see
Speaker 2: her on the trip. I don't know this for a fact.
Speaker 2: What trip are you talking about there, Alexis.
Speaker 3: Well, but it's Shannon's trip and she said you're not
Speaker 3: coming right. Well that's fair, I mean why should she look?
Speaker 3: If I were Shannon, I wouldn't bite Alexis either. There's
Speaker 3: no no good is going to come out of it.
Speaker 3: What are we going to go to London and fight for?
Speaker 3: However many you know those trips like seventy two hours
Speaker 3: and with no food, bad food, liquor, and no sleep.
Speaker 3: So I think that Shinna did the right thing.
Speaker 2: But what are your thoughts on Granted, Alexis is not
Speaker 2: a housewife, she's a friend of but.
Speaker 3: I put in a lot of work for somebody who's
Speaker 3: not a housewife.
Speaker 2: But I have kind I mean, I've done the map,
Speaker 2: like showing up you're kind of You're still making decent
Speaker 2: money if you show up consistently yeah, but.
Speaker 3: Do you.
Speaker 2: I guess My question is Alexis has put herself out
Speaker 2: there in this situation. She's now gone this far and
Speaker 2: then it's going to stop. Yes, was it worth it?
Speaker 3: That's only only Alexis can answer that question. She has
Speaker 3: to do what's right for her. This is what you
Speaker 3: know when people say, well I wouldn't have done it, Well,
Speaker 3: good for you. You're not Alexis, You're not Shannon, You're not
Speaker 3: in these situations. I mean, each person has to decide
Speaker 3: what's worth it to them.
Speaker 2: What does she want?
Speaker 3: I guess, and we won't. I mean, we're not asking her,
Speaker 3: so we don't know. But if she wanted to come on,
Speaker 3: and you know, I don't know what her goal was.
Speaker 2: But what is your thoughts on a housewife refusing to
Speaker 2: film with somebody else?
Speaker 3: That's not okay, because it's like when Lisa Vanda pump
Speaker 3: up and left the show in the middle of the year. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there were a lot of times I didn't want to film.
Speaker 3: I didn't want to answer a lot of questions, which
Speaker 3: you know, put me in a terrible place legally, and
Speaker 3: still do by the way, But I did it, and
Speaker 3: I honored my contract or. I should have packed my
Speaker 3: shit and gone home and said, you.
Speaker 2: Know what, I have to bow out. Yeah, I'm done.
Speaker 3: I'm done. Not because I can't take it, but because
Speaker 3: I can't take it, you know. Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 3: that's okay. You can't refuse that. That's not a it's
Speaker 3: not a thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's probably I think I wonder
Speaker 2: if that was something that happened in previous years. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'll never work with her. I mean, I think at
Speaker 2: some point there has been some housewives that have been
Speaker 2: able to push through and get people pushed out. It's
Speaker 2: like what's happening on New Jersey this year, where I
Speaker 2: think they're hoping that they're going to push Teresa out.
Speaker 2: And I just I personally, whether I think Teresa and
Speaker 2: Louis are great or not, I personally think pushing her
Speaker 2: out will be a mistake for the show.
Speaker 3: I don't know enough about it to comment. I do
Speaker 3: know this, Teresa brings a lot of eyeball. That whole
Speaker 3: cast works very hard. Teresa, Margaret, Melissa, you know, they've
Speaker 3: all been very friendly to me. Dolores, I mean.
Speaker 2: I love her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's just I don't I have that is.
Speaker 2: Above my pay grade, and she's She's like, not what
Speaker 2: we're talking about, getting back to Ocie.
Speaker 3: Getting back to this.
Speaker 2: Then the women sit down for dinner. Heather reads a
Speaker 2: text from Alexis saying she doesn't understand why Gina brought
Speaker 2: up the videos when they aren't getting released. Shannon says
Speaker 2: Alexis and John are strategizing and that she and John
Speaker 2: used to do the same thing before filming.
Speaker 3: Very telling, very telling. John and I used to do
Speaker 3: the same thing before filming, so he does like.
Speaker 2: It if you're if you're significant.
Speaker 3: Strategize, be honest. There was a moment I didn't even
Speaker 3: know the name of the show I was on. I'm
Speaker 3: just gonna say, and truth was he didn't even know
Speaker 3: my name sometimes, But that's another conversation. But Tom never
Speaker 3: helped me other than to say, you be yourself, Erica
Speaker 3: and just really sort of, you know, listen and try
Speaker 3: to do what you feel is right.
Speaker 2: Our strategy was only because our first time filming a date. Yeah,
Speaker 2: if they would have aired, it would have ended us
Speaker 2: because because Edwin is like one of those people and
Speaker 2: you know him now at this point where he just
Speaker 2: says dumb shit. So our first conversation was something about
Speaker 2: are you going to have another baby? They like they
Speaker 2: they were you know, this was way before Dove, way
Speaker 2: before I thought i'd have another kid. And they they're like,
Speaker 2: you guys should talk about you know, like how they
Speaker 2: do like talk about the things. And you're that you've been.
Speaker 3: Talking about You've been talking about things that you've been
Speaker 3: thinking about, okay.
Speaker 2: And so they're like, you should talk about if you
Speaker 2: want to have another baby, and so we start talking
Speaker 2: about it, and Edwin says the quote, then you're gonna
Speaker 2: get big again? Are you okay with that?
Speaker 3: They let me ask you in them truthfully.
Speaker 2: I honestly wanted to die in that moment. Well you
Speaker 2: know that. Listen.
Speaker 3: They they didn't show some things of Tom the way
Speaker 3: he spoke down to me because it would have killed.
Speaker 2: I mean killed him, it would had they shown that.
Speaker 2: And then had we had car cams on the way home.
Speaker 2: Oh did you let him have it? I mean I
Speaker 2: sat that I took it in the moment. But this
Speaker 2: is this is where it's real life, but it's not
Speaker 2: real life. It's like imagine being on a double date
Speaker 2: and your husband saying some shit like that, but you
Speaker 2: kind of suck it up. I did it for years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just you smile and you're like off your shoulders
Speaker 3: because it doesn't do anything for you in the moment,
Speaker 3: and you're also on camera. Yeah, you guys, suck that
Speaker 3: shit up.
Speaker 2: So I like sucked it up. And I was like,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, you're so silly, blah blah blah. And
Speaker 2: then we got in the fucking car and I was like,
Speaker 2: I am disgusted that you said that. I'm furious that
Speaker 2: you said that. You embarrass me, you hurt me, you know,
Speaker 2: my past issues, like all of these things. And I
Speaker 2: was like, but that is a real life conversation that
Speaker 2: some dumbass men will.
Speaker 3: Say more than I think you're willing to admit, you know,
Speaker 3: like there are a lot of men that think that
Speaker 3: say it, and then there are more that I think
Speaker 3: it and don't say it. Like, let's be honest, this
Speaker 3: is what people do. But there's something Now, how do
Speaker 3: you feel about it now?
Speaker 2: I mean, if we were in that same situation today
Speaker 2: in the moment, I would have been like, go fuck
Speaker 2: yourself nice, Like, you can't say that to me. It
Speaker 2: hurts my feeling and.
Speaker 3: It takes me back to a really bad.
Speaker 2: It takes me back to a really bad place. But
Speaker 2: I remember feeling that, that feeling of wanting to.
Speaker 3: Protect him always, and women do this, and we do
Speaker 3: it on the show and we do it in real.
Speaker 2: Life, and it's not made up. It's not because I
Speaker 2: wanted to give him a good edit.
Speaker 3: It's natural.
Speaker 2: It comes out. Yeah, And you want to protect yourself.
Speaker 2: You want people to look at you and go, oh,
Speaker 2: my gosh, your marriage is so good.
Speaker 3: Well, I never looked at it. Wanted people to think.
Speaker 3: I always got criticism for my marriage number one, because
Speaker 3: I was so much younger and he was older, and
Speaker 3: I was broke and he was rich and whatever. But
Speaker 3: I never wanted them to think it was perfect, because
Speaker 3: it was not perfect from the outside, just on its face.
Speaker 3: But I did want people to understand that we.
Speaker 2: Always loved there.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, we really did love each other, and I really
Speaker 3: did love this man. So I know exactly what you're saying.
Speaker 3: There's just that weird, weird pivot back and forth. And
Speaker 3: I don't think that people you have a lot of
Speaker 3: courage to admit that he said that now, I mean
Speaker 3: that you know something that could have lived in the
Speaker 3: shadows for forever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we talk about it still. So, yes, there
Speaker 2: were moments did we stress. But the strategy was after
Speaker 2: the fact. It was you have to think about what.
Speaker 3: You're saying before you say it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because yes, that hurt me and I'll remember it forever,
Speaker 2: but imagine the amount of other women that's gonna hurt
Speaker 2: when it plays out.
Speaker 3: I remember talking, you know, come to think of it,
Speaker 3: I remember talking so Erica, I'm talking like shut up.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I just was like, okay, here we go,
Speaker 3: you know, and you just you sucked it down. Oh yes,
Speaker 3: and you kept on going. It just a fuck because
Speaker 3: if I show any reaction.
Speaker 2: Right now, it may get more airtime.
Speaker 3: It gets more airtime. Someone will seize upon that moment,
Speaker 3: someone sees cracks in the foundation and they go for it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so you have to, you know, unless you're just like,
Speaker 3: fuck this shit, I've had enough of you. Yeah, probably
Speaker 3: what I should have done did not, But I don't
Speaker 3: take anything I do.
Speaker 2: But I think what alexis is doing. I mean, she's
Speaker 2: also what less than a year into her relationship.
Speaker 3: With which is all this fantasy land. It still feels good.
Speaker 3: This is what I want to say, And I don't
Speaker 3: know these people, but I do know something about human nature.
Speaker 3: It's only a matter of time before he does to
Speaker 3: Alexis what he did to Shannon, even under the best
Speaker 3: of circumstances. And it may not be this year, it
Speaker 3: may not be in three years, and it may take
Speaker 3: five ten you but it will be done because people
Speaker 3: are who they are, right, cheaters, it doesn't matter. Maybe
Speaker 3: you didn't cheat today, but you will do it again.
Speaker 2: But if you're capable of cheating.
Speaker 3: You will do it again when given the opportunity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you may, you know, you may do work
Speaker 2: on yourself, and you may put yourself in situations to
Speaker 2: set up boundaries so that it happens less.
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, it's still running
Speaker 3: around your head.
Speaker 2: Yeah, at the end of the day, you're thinking about it.
Speaker 2: And if you're thinking about it, it's only a matter
Speaker 2: of time. Yeah, But they the women said for dinner,
Speaker 2: Shannon tells the women she doesn't want to talk about
Speaker 2: John the entire dinner, but then she proceeds to tell
Speaker 2: the women John refused her offer. In my opinion this week,
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: Want to talk about it, but yeah, like I get it,
Speaker 3: you know, I get it, I get it.
Speaker 2: She wanted to get her a point across. But this
Speaker 2: wasn't I gotta be honest, it wasn't Shannon's best episode.
Speaker 2: She seemed a little.
Speaker 3: I don't think it was her worst from what I've
Speaker 3: seen this year. I'm not her worst ever.
Speaker 2: But her worst this season. I think I think she
Speaker 2: seemed the most out of it.
Speaker 3: Well, here's what I want to say. I just I
Speaker 3: would prefer not to see her drinking while she's in
Speaker 3: such a terrible time. I think that that's counterproductive. So
Speaker 3: when I see her order a cocktail, I'm like, God,
Speaker 3: don't do that, you know, just but I mean, you're
Speaker 3: in a bad PA.
Speaker 2: But you've done it too. I've done it too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, girl, I was trying to die. I was trying
Speaker 3: to hurt myself. I was really trying to not wake
Speaker 3: up and not hear it anymore. You know, I was tired,
Speaker 3: so I didn't care. I don't know what she's feeling,
Speaker 3: but that's true. I wanted it to stop, all of it.
Speaker 2: So so you you consciously knew I'm numbing myself.
Speaker 3: Yes, absolute, I made choices to numb myself, bad choices.
Speaker 3: But this is and I know this, and that's why
Speaker 3: I continue to stay in therapy. And why I got
Speaker 3: so upset when the verdict was read last week was
Speaker 3: because look guilty or not, I slid back into a
Speaker 3: place where I thought, oh shit, it's happening again, Like
Speaker 3: I feel weird again. I feel like I can't get
Speaker 3: out of bed again. And I had to call my
Speaker 3: therapist and be like, what is happening to me?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, but that's but where you No, I think
Speaker 2: this is an interesting topic because we I throw my
Speaker 2: life away, Yeah you you. I was done with the
Speaker 2: whole thing, but you weren't saying I'm good right now?
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, And I think I think there's a
Speaker 2: very different situation you're going. Yeah, I'm in a fucked
Speaker 2: up situation right now. I'm not well.
Speaker 3: I'm drinking to to make it stop, Yeah, to numb myself,
Speaker 3: which is all the wrong things to do. I did
Speaker 3: all the wrong things in front of everybody.
Speaker 2: And I can say, for all the years that I
Speaker 2: ever filmed the show with you, you barely ever drink.
Speaker 3: And guess what, now that I'm healthy and now that
Speaker 3: I feel good, who's barely drinking? Yeah barely? Yeah, So
Speaker 3: to see that out of me. Everybody was like this year.
Speaker 2: It was a different person than I've ever seen, a
Speaker 2: different person. But Alexis spends the entire Big Bear trip
Speaker 2: threatening the videos. But then she also now we're in Sonoma,
Speaker 2: and she's like, how could she bring up the videos? Well,
Speaker 2: you can't.
Speaker 3: You can't have it both ways. We're either gonna stand
Speaker 3: beside showing the videos or we're not. We can't play
Speaker 3: the good guy. All of a sudden, I wonder what
Speaker 3: that is. Did they strategize to be nicer?
Speaker 2: But also what's on the fucking videos?
Speaker 3: Well, you tell me what you thought was in the videos?
Speaker 2: I know, but like at this point, we can't talk,
Speaker 2: just like we can't talk about Gina and Katie anymore.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, I'm done. I actually were tired. I'm tired.
Speaker 2: You're tired.
Speaker 3: I can tell she's tired of the show.
Speaker 2: Like, what was it that they said on New York
Speaker 2: like my pant or was it Dallas.
Speaker 3: My lovely Leanne Lockin, You're a legend?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like my panty liner is tired of the storyline
Speaker 2: between Gina and Katie.
Speaker 3: Panty liner who wears a panty.
Speaker 2: She's a fucking legend. But the women are splitting up,
Speaker 2: of course. So just to give you guys backstory, that's
Speaker 2: a thing. There's always a split up like which and
Speaker 2: you're not in charge of it. No, you don't get
Speaker 2: to pick your group.
Speaker 3: I wish.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, you're told. And then that's why you have
Speaker 2: one awkward housewife describing what you're gonna do, Like you're like, hey, guys,
Speaker 2: we're gonna go to like the smoke get making. Yeah,
Speaker 2: well that what they did, and they you know, they
Speaker 2: wanted themselves dead while they were biscuit making because they're hungover.
Speaker 2: We had seen Tamra stick her finger and Emily's buttthole.
Speaker 3: Which is kind of wild. I don't know that I
Speaker 3: would be repeating that.
Speaker 2: That's kind of that.
Speaker 3: I like Tamra, I like Emily. That's a bridge too
Speaker 3: far from me. You're never sticking your finger in my
Speaker 3: ass and vice versa.
Speaker 2: Listen, I like you a lot, but I'm not. I
Speaker 2: don't need to see your are I love you?
Speaker 3: I love you, but like from a distance, Yeah, the world.
Speaker 2: Seems to Yes, she's the singer. I'm not. But uh
Speaker 2: so there's Emily, Tamra and Gina and Alexis go biscuit
Speaker 2: making where they all wear the fucking chef hats, which
Speaker 2: I also don't love when everybody has to have a
Speaker 2: prop and then Jen, Katie and Heather go to it.
Speaker 2: They're calling it a sound bath, but.
Speaker 3: I didn't see one. I saw a nice lady. The
Speaker 3: resort looked beautiful, though it did look like to have
Speaker 3: gone there actually lies.
Speaker 2: You do not want to be in one of those
Speaker 2: little cabins.
Speaker 3: Excuse me, lady, I was with you in way worse. Okay,
Speaker 3: so you'd be quiet. Okay, this one selective memory.
Speaker 2: At pretend it took me. Hold on, let's pull it
Speaker 2: way back and let's replay that staircase episode. Okay, I
Speaker 2: get it.
Speaker 3: No I did in the moment I did in the moment,
Speaker 3: no I had. I had forgotten it. And then it
Speaker 3: was like, oh, well, you know.
Speaker 2: That's the thing.
Speaker 3: That's the great part about shooting a season is you
Speaker 3: say a lot of things, you forget something small, and
Speaker 3: then yeah, gotcha.
Speaker 2: But then Shannon isn't feeling well from the stress, but
Speaker 2: she eventually joins the soundbath, but cannot stop coughing. The
Speaker 2: thing annoying. The thing about the coughing, though, is remember
Speaker 2: I filmed. I would assume a week prior the Trader's
Speaker 2: episode and Shannon had that hacking cough. Then I'm like,
Speaker 2: is this a bronchial thing? Are you allergic to something?
Speaker 3: And a Z pack?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you may need a p you may need
Speaker 2: to up it from a Z pack to a Marxist cyllin.
Speaker 3: Or yeah, a meta metal pack. Yes, Auntie mflams. You
Speaker 3: know the thing is that to imagine the stress that
Speaker 3: she is under and it's cold, it's raining, you know
Speaker 3: you get tired under those conditions.
Speaker 2: But did you ever sleep till twelve thirty in the afternoon?
Speaker 3: No, I think that I woke up hungover in France Provence.
Speaker 2: But that was my That's my question. Do you think
Speaker 2: that day she woke up? Do you think she was hungover?
Speaker 2: Do you think she was stressed like they couldn't get
Speaker 2: her out to film? Well, we don't know.
Speaker 3: I let me not speculate.
Speaker 2: I don't know. We'd hate to speculate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not cool, but if.
Speaker 2: We were an investigative.
Speaker 3: But I know that there were times that I I'll
Speaker 3: speak for myself. When I was going through what I
Speaker 3: was going through, I was heavily medicated. So I still
Speaker 3: got out of bed at the right time, but not
Speaker 3: without a fight. You know, that was a struggle.
Speaker 2: And I just want to be clear. It's not that
Speaker 2: nobody is going to come in and wake you up.
Speaker 3: No, you have to get up on your own. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that you have a commitment to wake up and to
Speaker 3: show up at the right time, and then if you
Speaker 3: don't show up, that's right, that's on you. That's on you,
Speaker 3: and then that's on you. And I'm not And I'm
Speaker 3: also not going to go run after someone if they didn't.
Speaker 2: Like we're ald adults, but I mean there were times
Speaker 2: where we were told, like, you have ten minutes get
Speaker 2: down to breakfast, and you do have ten minutes, and
Speaker 2: you have ten minutes and it's your job, and if
Speaker 2: you're unable to do your job, I do think there's
Speaker 2: room for concern.
Speaker 3: Yes, for sure, like if you're I mean again, we
Speaker 3: weren't there, so let's not jump to conclusions.
Speaker 2: But if when we got to moments where Denise, oh
Speaker 2: my god, you know god, we got to moments where Denise, yeah,
Speaker 2: welcome to life with me. We got to moments where
Speaker 2: Denise wouldn't show up to things, that was so frustrating,
Speaker 2: and she would demand a hotel room even though we're
Speaker 2: all filming in la and we're doing whatever.
Speaker 3: And at the Waldorf, at the fucking Waldorf, and they
Speaker 3: paid for it.
Speaker 2: Do cut that out? Yeah, Like they put her in
Speaker 2: a hotel to show up to the finale, and then
Speaker 2: she never showed up to the finale. That's like to me,
Speaker 2: those are irritating things. And it's also signed of a
Speaker 2: problem in your life. If you commit to something and
Speaker 2: you can't show up, you got to show up.
Speaker 3: But I do think that Shannon has real problems here.
Speaker 3: I don't think that she's making it up.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think she's making it up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know you don't, but but you know, yeah.
Speaker 2: But it's but also do you think, Okay, let's say
Speaker 2: I had a drinking or a pill or whatever problem.
Speaker 2: Would you be mad at me if I I I
Speaker 2: if it was years and years or would you try
Speaker 2: to help me? Like, would you be going and getting
Speaker 2: me up to go?
Speaker 3: You've touched on something years and years, So at first,
Speaker 3: if you were going through a very stressful time, I'd
Speaker 3: be like, you know what, let's leave her be now.
Speaker 3: Then after a while it becomes a problem. No, I'm
Speaker 3: not going to get you. No, I'm not checking on you.
Speaker 3: We're all adults and you have to handle that yourself.
Speaker 3: And if you can't, you need to speak out and
Speaker 3: you know, maybe have somebody. You have to make the
Speaker 3: right choices to succeed here, because shit's bad, life's bad,
Speaker 3: You're under a lot of stress. You can't continuously make
Speaker 3: bad decisions and expect a good result. That's what I'm
Speaker 3: getting at. It's not being judgmental. It's just that, hey,
Speaker 3: if you continue this behavior, you know, nothing good comes
Speaker 3: from it. And if we really want to get out
Speaker 3: of this place and not feel this way, we can't
Speaker 3: have drinks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, that's not our best thing to do.
Speaker 3: It's not the best decision. It's actually the complete opposite
Speaker 3: for winning, you know.
Speaker 2: Alexis then tells the woman she's willing to move forward
Speaker 2: and find a way to coexist with Shannon, which I
Speaker 2: thought was nice. I thought that this was Alexis's best episode.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which I thought is you know. I mean, oh
Speaker 3: my god, I'm such an ass to do strategize.
Speaker 2: Sorry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, ah, the conversations in my head are lovely. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm hoping that was from the heart. You know that
Speaker 3: that comes from thoughtful like you know, I'm hoping.
Speaker 2: So And then Tamra says it kills her to watch
Speaker 2: Shannon order drinks. Gina tells Tarma she can't set the
Speaker 2: boundaries for everyone else.
Speaker 3: But she can't be annoyed. Yes, she can't express Look, no,
Speaker 3: you can't set the boundaries for anybody else. At the
Speaker 3: end of the day, people are going to do what
Speaker 3: they want to do. But it doesn't mean that you
Speaker 3: can't say, hey, like you just said about our other friend,
Speaker 3: that can't fuck everybody else up, you know, right?
Speaker 2: And I mean, Alexis, I hate to break it to you,
Speaker 2: but I I don't think that you're the one setting
Speaker 2: the boundaries at this point. No, like you're You're just
Speaker 2: you're playing along with whatever is going to happen with
Speaker 2: Shannon at this current time.
Speaker 1: Yea.
Speaker 2: Then Katie tells Heather that everything that happened was a setup.
Speaker 2: Heather says that will first year setup for We love it.
Speaker 2: We love you first your setup, we love to do it.
Speaker 3: We all have friendship going really thriving.
Speaker 2: Heather says they're going backwards now and she doesn't want
Speaker 2: to go there is there a different way Katie should
Speaker 2: be playing this.
Speaker 3: I take full responsibility for my part in what I did. Heather,
Speaker 3: I'm very sorry.
Speaker 2: Leave it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't bring it up with anybody else. If you
Speaker 3: want to cuss out Gene on the side, that's fine,
Speaker 3: But don't say the devil made me do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I may have said that from time
Speaker 2: to time.
Speaker 3: I may take this as a growth moment.
Speaker 2: We're growing here. We grow here on the growth mind.
Speaker 2: We're actually a motivational podcast. Now we've switched over. But
Speaker 2: in golf terms, Katie took a whiff at this one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just just just say I take responsibility for, you know,
Speaker 3: my bad behavior, and move on.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Then the women arrive at the family Equality event,
Speaker 2: which was nice. It was nice. Emily and Alexis are
Speaker 2: wearing the same dress, which upsets Emily. The designer puts
Speaker 2: Emily and she says in quotes oversized jacket and yeah,
Speaker 2: and Emily is the one who had to bring her
Speaker 2: own genes, which makes Emily feel not great. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: pass this to you from somebody who has dealt with
Speaker 2: an eating disorder and also having body dysmorphia. I think
Speaker 2: it's very hard because people will say comments like, oh,
Speaker 2: she said she's insecure about her arms, but then she's
Speaker 2: wearing a tank top and all of her confessionals, or
Speaker 2: she's her whole storyline is how she's being fit, but
Speaker 2: now she's feeling insecure. I think that we can't control
Speaker 2: how we feel in our own bodies. And there are
Speaker 2: times in my life where my it doesn't matter like
Speaker 2: the number on the scale. Truthfully, but if I'm in
Speaker 2: a good place in my life and I'm feeling confident
Speaker 2: and good, I can feel really sexy, I can feel
Speaker 2: really attractive, i can feel really proud of how I'm doing.
Speaker 2: And then there are times when I'm not doing well.
Speaker 2: I may be the skinniest I've ever heard, but I
Speaker 2: will see myself in a very ugly way. But also,
Speaker 2: I think a part that's not being discussed, in which
Speaker 2: we're all judging is comparison kills all joy. Yes, and
Speaker 2: so if you're sitting there, and we have to also
Speaker 2: remember Emily's significantly taller than the majority of the girls.
Speaker 2: When you're put in clothing and you're and you're you know,
Speaker 2: you're not forced, but you're asked to do a situation
Speaker 2: where you show yourself off in a different way.
Speaker 3: I say no, that's the thing. You're not forced, but
Speaker 3: you can't say no. I don't know what that means.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't think that we can, regardless of
Speaker 2: how Emily the same way that you will say, how
Speaker 2: many fucks do I give?
Speaker 3: Zero?
Speaker 2: None, not one, Emily will say the same thing when
Speaker 2: it comes to her physical self, but clearly she's showing
Speaker 2: now that she does. Well. You're look.
Speaker 3: No one is one hundred percent all the time, confident,
Speaker 3: comfortable in their own skin, and nothing everything just bounces
Speaker 3: off them. I think that that's misleading. Yeah, human beings,
Speaker 3: we are allowed to feel good, bad, mixed, confused, angry, sad.
Speaker 3: So I understand what you said. One day I may
Speaker 3: be feeling awesome, and the next day, even though I
Speaker 3: may be the same weight or whatever, I feel disgusting.
Speaker 3: Maybe not disgusting, just I don't feel confident. And I
Speaker 3: have this too sometimes, like in costume on stage, you know,
Speaker 3: I look at it. I was really thin for better
Speaker 3: at all, and blonde on purpose because I knew that
Speaker 3: we were making a doc and I wanted it to
Speaker 3: look a certain way. So I really scaled down and
Speaker 3: I'm glad. I did, because now when I look at it,
Speaker 3: I'm like, ah, I like the way I look, But
Speaker 3: that doesn't mean that I liked the way my face looked. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because I looked haggard when I saw you, you know,
Speaker 3: in Vegas. I just looked tired and run down. That
Speaker 3: being said, look, is there too much emphasis on us
Speaker 3: as women and our appearance? Yes, but are we on
Speaker 3: a television show that's about lifestyle and appearance.
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah. And it's okay to feel good, and it's okay
Speaker 3: to feel.
Speaker 2: Bad, And I think that it's okay to say, like,
Speaker 2: from one season to another, it's okay to say, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm a fuck it, I'm gonna go in the sauna
Speaker 2: and eat it. Because there was one point where like,
Speaker 2: she goes in the sauna and sheats like a subway
Speaker 2: sandwich and everybody's like laughing at her, and she's like,
Speaker 2: I fucking own it. I wanted this sandwich. To then
Speaker 2: go into the next season and be in a different
Speaker 2: part of your life and you've changed so many parts
Speaker 2: of it, and then all of a sudden you see changes,
Speaker 2: and then they're not quite the changes. Other people aren't
Speaker 2: seeing the changes that you may be seeing. And so
Speaker 2: then they say a word like oversized or I mean,
Speaker 2: I know, even for me, if I go for a
Speaker 2: photoshoot and I mean, I'm a million years past where
Speaker 2: I was. But if I go for a photo shoot
Speaker 2: and I'm a small like in general.
Speaker 3: She's a small person and she's really tiny.
Speaker 2: I am a small human in general. But I went
Speaker 2: in for a photo shoot recently and I didn't fit
Speaker 2: in scale size. I was too big, like my ribcage
Speaker 2: was too big and they had to pin me.
Speaker 3: Did that make you feel a certain way?
Speaker 2: And it made, to be honest, Tamra did. Oh, And
Speaker 2: there was a moment. I wasn't mad at Tamra. I
Speaker 2: wasn't mad at myself, but there was a moment of like,
Speaker 2: I'm embarrassed that, like we both sent our sizes and
Speaker 2: they were the same, and yet I don't fit in
Speaker 2: the dress that they sent for me. Sure, and Tamra
Speaker 2: does I see. Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 3: I get it, I really do.
Speaker 2: And it's not that I don't like myself or I
Speaker 2: hate myself, but I.
Speaker 3: Think it's like a reminder of a wound that's there. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, it's like just like poking a little sensitive
Speaker 3: spot and I get that, and that that that still hurts.
Speaker 3: And the thing is that you you know it, acknowledge it,
Speaker 3: and how did you overcome it?
Speaker 2: No? I just said to them, I said, hey, guys,
Speaker 2: I'm fine to wear this dress, but yeah, can I
Speaker 2: don't want to just leave it open. I'd prefer if
Speaker 2: we could get hooks and pin it so it's tighter
Speaker 2: against me. It gives you yeah, and and and then
Speaker 2: I just pretty much had to like have a conversation
Speaker 2: with myself, like Taddy this and I know this is
Speaker 2: going to sound crazy to you guys, but like you
Speaker 2: have a wide ribcage, you have broader shoulders. This is
Speaker 2: who you are.
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, you're so tiny compared to me.
Speaker 2: No, but like you see what I was saying, like
Speaker 2: whatever it may be, like it, I had to like
Speaker 2: give myself that peptic to.
Speaker 3: Give yourself some grace. You know, we all need to
Speaker 3: like stop beating up on ourselves a little bit, like
Speaker 3: it's not your fault.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But but do you think that Heather knew that
Speaker 2: Emily was feeling that way because she kept asking if
Speaker 2: she okay?
Speaker 3: I think the better question is is at what point
Speaker 3: did Heather think Emily was not okay, I think that's
Speaker 3: the better question. Like, did Heather think about it going
Speaker 3: into the fashion show? I don't know when did she start?
Speaker 3: Did she hear it from someone else? Like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It seemed like because she seemed very observant of Emily's
Speaker 2: mental state around that. But if you're that aware of
Speaker 2: it leading into it, you probably would have planned accordingly.
Speaker 2: I would have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't know, Like, I don't know. I was
Speaker 3: going to ask you that, do you think Heather had
Speaker 3: a discussion with Emily free fashion show?
Speaker 2: Hey? What do you?
Speaker 3: But then that's awkward too, Hey what are you comfortable with?
Speaker 2: Like? Do you you know? You want to make everybody
Speaker 2: feel comfortable? You want to make everybody feel.
Speaker 3: Like And I'm not saying that Heather did not do that.
Speaker 3: Let's not don't jump to conclusions.
Speaker 2: I just don't. We don't know. But then we hear
Speaker 2: Emily saying I'm the only one wearing jeans. That being said, Emily,
Speaker 2: I thought you looked freaking stunning walking down that runway.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I thought she did a great job, So.
Speaker 2: You owned it. I think you're sexy, I think you're beautiful.
Speaker 2: I think that you've worked really hard, and you deserve
Speaker 2: to give yourself your flowers like you. Yeah, you should
Speaker 2: feel great, but I also understand those moments when even
Speaker 2: when you should feel great, that you don't.
Speaker 3: That's yes, that's universal.
Speaker 2: Then Heather tells Tama that she didn't let Katie talk,
Speaker 2: and Tamra says Katie was set up and hung to dry.
Speaker 2: Tamra says Gina is behind all of this. She says
Speaker 2: Gina told Katie that she was probably right about the paparazzi,
Speaker 2: but she can't go there with Heather because Gina has
Speaker 2: to keep Heather closed for real estate connected. I love
Speaker 2: it so much.
Speaker 3: Yes, Now, then it gets into a little we get
Speaker 3: into a little word situation here later A word salad,
Speaker 3: A word salad. I didn't say that. I said this.
Speaker 3: Here's the problem. It may not be the exact verbiage.
Speaker 3: If I'm using that correctly, what was the meaning the same? Like,
Speaker 3: I don't know this is But do you think.
Speaker 2: That Katie may have been fibbing by backtracking, because later
Speaker 2: in the episode, Katie backtracks on what she said to Tamra.
Speaker 3: I think Katie is experiencing first season putting your foot
Speaker 3: in it. That's what I think is happening. I really do.
Speaker 2: I like Tina in general, but I don't need to
Speaker 2: see this much of her storyline. You mean the what
Speaker 2: is it like specifically? Is bothering you? It's bothering me
Speaker 2: that I feel like we're seeing a lot of Gina
Speaker 2: and not a lot of everybody else.
Speaker 3: Like would you like to see more of pretty much anyone?
Speaker 2: Oh, because we're hearing a lot about.
Speaker 3: Travis, which I still don't quite understand because they're not
Speaker 3: seeing Travis, but I don't understand why he's why they split?
Speaker 3: What am I missing?
Speaker 2: Financial? So they have eighty two kids and they lived
Speaker 2: in a three bedroom.
Speaker 3: So he took himself and his children and moved somewhere else.
Speaker 2: She wanted to buy a bigger she wanted them to
Speaker 2: have more space. Okay, he couldn't afford to do that,
Speaker 2: so she bought herself a place in the same community
Speaker 2: that he has a place with his kids. So now
Speaker 2: they're like communal, living back and forth between each other's place.
Speaker 3: I so they didn't put the money together to get
Speaker 3: the bigger place.
Speaker 2: And no because potentially issues with an ex wife of
Speaker 2: his or Okay, it's really unclear. My guess is she's
Speaker 2: not that.
Speaker 3: Into him, and it feels like she's very much focused
Speaker 3: on her career and her future, which is great and
Speaker 3: it's great. I'm just telling you that's how right.
Speaker 2: But feel in that moment you can kind of get
Speaker 2: to a place of some if that person that you're
Speaker 2: with doesn't seem like they're as focused on their growth
Speaker 2: and their career and financial to me, sometimes it can
Speaker 2: be unattractive. I agree, I agree, But then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, when you pull away from it, then you
Speaker 2: feel alone.
Speaker 3: And you can't have it both ways either, it's not
Speaker 3: like it's you can't be like a little bit pregnant
Speaker 3: either are or not? You know, like, but it's true.
Speaker 3: I mean, what are we doing here?
Speaker 2: We're all adults, yeah, and so I but I have
Speaker 2: to say I'm a little bit over the Katie Katie
Speaker 2: situation of it all. But then, but what would we
Speaker 2: do if we didn't have it right? We? I mean, we.
Speaker 3: Need people to make mistakes so we can talk about it. Well,
Speaker 3: add knows, I've made my verysure well other things and
Speaker 3: y'all have talked about it, so fuck you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I will talk about it in probably six
Speaker 2: weeks from now. Can't wait. But if you cannot name
Speaker 2: Tamar in this, if you had to pick a best
Speaker 2: friend from Mosci, who would have Heather? Have me over
Speaker 2: to the Balbo Bay close over here.
Speaker 3: To the fucking VH shit. Y'all got room. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: hit all of you hoes up here. We got Kyle
Speaker 3: dub you. I was going to do a whole tour
Speaker 3: her over there. Just drive my ass back on home.
Speaker 3: You know, well, I live in a cute neighborhood, but
Speaker 3: I'm not flossing like the rest of the ladies.
Speaker 2: Well you fla, you lost us for a lot of
Speaker 2: I did real good for a long time. Then Tamar
Speaker 2: tells Katie she told Heather, and Heather responded that Gina
Speaker 2: will never get business from her, and Katie says Gina
Speaker 2: is going to hate her forever. Then Alexis tells Heather
Speaker 2: that Emily asked her to talk to Shannon tonight. Heather says,
Speaker 2: this event might be the right moment since it's about love.
Speaker 2: I know, I guess it's like the homeless not toothless.
Speaker 2: For the record, at a group event, there's never a
Speaker 2: right time.
Speaker 3: No, But that's also what makes it so great is
Speaker 3: that there's never right time, which is why it's the
Speaker 3: right time to do these things, because you get the
Speaker 3: best reactions and the most awkward of places.
Speaker 2: Some of my some of my favorite moments of this night,
Speaker 2: which is I feel like we may see Heather tipsy
Speaker 2: for the first time, which is fun. Which she's like,
Speaker 2: I need my readers and I'm not having this conversation tonight.
Speaker 2: And then there was a moment where I think it's
Speaker 2: prior to Alexis going up to Shannon to try to
Speaker 2: have that conversation. Does she say I think you look cute?
Speaker 2: Then Shannon completely ignores her.
Speaker 3: You know, it's a long night.
Speaker 2: But you know when you like, I'm that person that's
Speaker 2: like at the grocery store and like, well awkwardly wave
Speaker 2: if I think I see somebody I know, and then
Speaker 2: if they don't see it, I'm like, do you really?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't even bother way No, I mean.
Speaker 3: That's such a weirdo. I'm like, is that who I
Speaker 3: think it is?
Speaker 2: And you know, but like it it was pretty I
Speaker 2: mean it was pretty telling. Alexis got a talking to.
Speaker 2: She's like, they're like, if you want to keep filming,
Speaker 2: you're gonna you're nice. You're gonna be nice, and you're
Speaker 2: going to clear this shit up with Shannon.
Speaker 3: But I think, look, it is the right thing to do.
Speaker 3: Clean it up with Shannon as much as possible, and also, like,
Speaker 3: you know, we're on episode ten and let's.
Speaker 2: Move along, right. But then Emily tells Shannon for the
Speaker 2: sake of the group, they should have a conversation. Shannon
Speaker 2: says no, right, and then Shannon tells Alexis she's not
Speaker 2: interested in talking. I did appreciate that when Shannon said no,
Speaker 2: Alexis didn't chase her.
Speaker 3: I know that sounds crazy below, it's actually adult. It's
Speaker 3: actually the right thing to do, which is no, Okay,
Speaker 3: she tried, and you know, look, there's never a right
Speaker 3: time to have these really weird conversations.
Speaker 2: Is it's not.
Speaker 3: But I do appreciate the fact that she didn't chase
Speaker 3: after her. She didn't make a big deal.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Then the women go bike riding to one last vineyard, Gina.
Speaker 3: Toushian River, by the way, have you been there?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: But it looks pretty.
Speaker 2: Let's go. Okay, let's do a pod from there. Can
Speaker 2: we get in your rvy though the RV's sold. I
Speaker 2: know did you get a bigger one?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: No, let's get on your private plane and.
Speaker 2: Let's do you know, let's go to Jez Sweet Axe
Speaker 2: and see if we can find a vander Pumper rules plane.
Speaker 3: Since they seem to stalk you.
Speaker 2: Then Gina tells Katie she's upset that she's circling back
Speaker 2: on the situation. Katie says she's heard she's calling her
Speaker 2: a liar. Gina says, she brought Katie into this group,
Speaker 2: and she or, I'll check her out, nodding, but also
Speaker 2: bringing people into the group really posses me off. What
Speaker 2: do you mean by that? Because nobody brings anybody into
Speaker 2: the fucking group? Like, did Eileen really bring you into
Speaker 2: the group? No? It was Belande, Fine.
Speaker 3: Did you let's say she really did?
Speaker 2: Sorry? Did Yolanda really bring you under the group? Really did?
Speaker 3: Though?
Speaker 2: She did?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: You don't know the story?
Speaker 2: No, how I was out?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll tell you, yes, tell it, Okay, I'm confused.
Speaker 3: Tom and I went to visit David and Yolanda at
Speaker 3: their house in Malibu, and Yolanda was sick and she
Speaker 3: was We were talking and then she looked at me
Speaker 3: and she said, have you ever thought of being on
Speaker 3: Your Housewives of Beverly Hills, and I said no, and
Speaker 3: she pulled out her phone and she said, I think
Speaker 3: you'd be great. Let me text my boss, which became
Speaker 3: our boss, Alex Baskin, which we love who we love,
Speaker 3: Hey Alex, And she set up a phone call and
Speaker 3: I remember Alex saying, this can either be five minutes
Speaker 3: or the rest of you know, however many years, and
Speaker 3: it ended up being nine years now, So yeah, she
Speaker 3: really did. But I will say this, you know, Lisa
Speaker 3: Renna knew everybody she brought. I mean, if you wanted
Speaker 3: Lisa Reynold is like the Lisa Rennet is like the portal.
Speaker 2: But no real. But I think knowing somebody and giving
Speaker 2: their name, like there's been a million people like.
Speaker 3: Well you refer people.
Speaker 2: Even still to this day, I'm not even on the show,
Speaker 2: and I still still get text message just like, hey Teddy,
Speaker 2: is there anyone that you think that would be good?
Speaker 3: And I say yes, and they asked me, and then
Speaker 3: then I said I don't have friends, so they stopped
Speaker 3: asking me.
Speaker 2: They've all been fired.
Speaker 3: Yes, I don't have friends, so and nobody asked me
Speaker 3: for any recommendations on anything, and I'm okay with that,
Speaker 3: but I.
Speaker 2: Still send them. But I wasn't brought in in that
Speaker 2: same way. So are you brought in by I was
Speaker 2: brought in because I was on another reality television show,
Speaker 2: but I don't know this. Oh yeah, this is the backstory.
Speaker 2: It was on e produced by the same company that
Speaker 2: does the Kardashians, and it was very It never aired.
Speaker 2: I did the pilot and it was like one of
Speaker 2: those situations where I was like, this is the worst
Speaker 2: thing that I've ever done in my entire life. And
Speaker 2: so I called my old boss at CAA that I
Speaker 2: was his assistant, and I said, I signed a contract
Speaker 2: to do a show. I'm so scared it's going to
Speaker 2: get picked up. Please help me. I did this all
Speaker 2: this shit on my own. And he's like, no problem,
Speaker 2: I'm going to site you up with my junior who's
Speaker 2: now like the head of talent or whatever, but it's
Speaker 2: still my agent. And I said, please get me out
Speaker 2: of this. I can't, I can't, like my I'll die.
Speaker 3: I never had these conversations and always like get me
Speaker 3: in now.
Speaker 2: This was really a doozy of a sage. And so
Speaker 2: then at that point my eighth the lady that had
Speaker 2: taken over getting me out of that contract said would
Speaker 2: you ever do Real Housewives? And at that point, I
Speaker 2: truthfully had never watched.
Speaker 3: I had not either. People do not believe you when
Speaker 3: you say I knew who the players were, but I
Speaker 3: had never walked.
Speaker 2: No, like The Bachelor, those types of shows were the
Speaker 2: shows that I watched.
Speaker 3: I really I remember the Real World in eighty nine
Speaker 3: and that was I was.
Speaker 2: The Real World road Rules Challenge.
Speaker 3: But I remember the original cast.
Speaker 2: But I I was like, well, I guess I probably would.
Speaker 2: And she goes, would you rather do OC or Beverly
Speaker 2: Hills because you have a house with places? And I said,
Speaker 2: what do you recommend? And she said Beverly Hills is essentially,
Speaker 2: for lack of a better words, class here I cannot.
Speaker 2: That is brilliant. That was how my first self cleaning started.
Speaker 2: Well and here you yep, But either way, so I
Speaker 2: wasn't really brought in and then and that's how it goes.
Speaker 2: But it is what it is. You know, it's hard
Speaker 2: to find housewives.
Speaker 3: There are a lot of people that think they are housewives.
Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you there are a lot of people.
Speaker 3: Do you ever get this? You know, they asked me
Speaker 3: to do the show, but I just didn't.
Speaker 2: Everybody says that everyone.
Speaker 3: So what I did was I picked up the phone
Speaker 3: a couple of times. I was like, I called math too. Oh,
Speaker 3: I thought you were going to tell the person that
Speaker 3: we called. No, don't give that person. Don't out that person.
Speaker 3: I called, and I was like, Hey, this person is
Speaker 3: saying that you offered them the spot but that they refused.
Speaker 3: They're like, absolutely not no.
Speaker 2: And also this is just like another little like behind
Speaker 2: the scenes thing that won't get us ot in trouble
Speaker 2: towards the end of every season. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you remember this, but remember this season that Camille like
Speaker 2: lost her ship at the agency event and they had
Speaker 2: us all walk over to that other girl. She was
Speaker 2: like a brunette, and we all started talking to her
Speaker 2: for a second. I have no memory. Was that there
Speaker 2: you were what the.
Speaker 3: City were we in?
Speaker 2: We were in Los Angeles, but they had like a
Speaker 2: really beautiful brunette there, and they had us all walk
Speaker 2: over and have little conversations with her. And I was like,
Speaker 2: this is so weird. Why are we talking to this girl?
Speaker 2: And then I asked the unnamed person, I'm like why
Speaker 2: what are we doing? And they were like, we're thinking
Speaker 2: of her for next.
Speaker 3: Year, so they were testing her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she didn't make it, but you do. A few
Speaker 2: do and then not many of us make it nine years.
Speaker 2: But this is the point.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's something to be proud.
Speaker 2: No I am.
Speaker 3: I'm just kidding nine years, no soul whatever, I am
Speaker 3: every years.
Speaker 2: But then Heather brings up the real estate comments and
Speaker 2: Gina says.
Speaker 3: Is Gina like balling like Mauricio? No, then don't worry
Speaker 3: about it. Do you think Heather's going to give Gina
Speaker 3: her listing?
Speaker 2: No, she's going to give it to the same She's
Speaker 2: gonna want to be on selling Sunset or buying Beverly
Speaker 2: Hills or whatever that other show. I know she doesn't
Speaker 2: work for any of those companies.
Speaker 3: Well, I also think, isn't she new in her She's
Speaker 3: starting her career out right right, and also too just.
Speaker 2: Starting it out at like a higher platform than most
Speaker 2: really well, I mean most new real estate agents aren't
Speaker 2: already on television show.
Speaker 3: You want to know something funny, these real estate agents
Speaker 3: be trying to hit me up. I'm like, bo, have
Speaker 3: you looked at me?
Speaker 2: Have you googled me lately, like, do you want to
Speaker 2: try what score? Yeah?
Speaker 3: No, my credit score is good. I pay my bills,
Speaker 3: but like by what? By what lunch?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: The fuck is wrong with you? So stop emailing me please.
Speaker 3: I don't even know how you got my email.
Speaker 2: Also, I need a new fucking email because it could
Speaker 2: give me rage. The amount of spam emails that I get.
Speaker 3: Every thousand and open messages, it makes me feel ill.
Speaker 3: Makes me feel ill too. I wonder if there's like
Speaker 3: a program that can go in and delete certain ones,
Speaker 3: basically the political ones, and stop asking me for money.
Speaker 3: I don't have any for you and your political campaign.
Speaker 2: Also to my kids school, I only need one email
Speaker 2: a week telling me what I need to do. I
Speaker 2: do not at fifteen really is upsetting to me. Do
Speaker 2: you have to do? No? It could be fucking anything.
Speaker 2: It's neon day Thursday, it's blah blah blah. Put it
Speaker 2: all in one fucking email. Oh I didn't even know that.
Speaker 2: Oh no, they spread it out my kids there, They
Speaker 2: spread it out throughout the week. So you can get
Speaker 2: multiple emails that you don't check. So you look like
Speaker 2: an asshole all the time by not showing up but
Speaker 2: then kids are expensive. Oh they're really. It's expensive to
Speaker 2: be me.
Speaker 3: It much more expensive to be you than me, honey,
Speaker 3: let me tell you. Wow, I just thought of that
Speaker 3: someone we talked about last week, like what private school
Speaker 3: costs here in LA and you've got three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a real freaking problem. And then you have
Speaker 2: to work, and then you have to place your kids
Speaker 2: to make sure that you can work, So then really
Speaker 2: you're you're paying to work. But then Tamra says Gina
Speaker 2: is being so defensive that she looks guilty, and Gina
Speaker 2: says she's being passionate. Heather believes Gina. At this point,
Speaker 2: we hear Emily being like, Gina's just going through the
Speaker 2: thick of things.
Speaker 3: I do want to say something to Gina. Look, I
Speaker 3: understand being passionate because when you are accused of things
Speaker 3: you didn't do, and I'm gonna go out on a
Speaker 3: limb with you and say that you didn't do it, rage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean somebody I didn't even know I was.
Speaker 2: But they might keep going. But I don't think Katie
Speaker 2: is making shit up as much as I think she's
Speaker 2: taking Gina's words out of context.
Speaker 3: I agree, I agree that's what we were talking about earlier,
Speaker 3: and I, yeah, like.
Speaker 2: It's it's not necessarily that I think either one of
Speaker 2: them as being a liar.
Speaker 3: No, I think that it is out of context and
Speaker 3: possibly bent to someone's favor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then Gina gets emotional and says the whole
Speaker 2: world fucked up. Gina tells them she's afraid Travis won't
Speaker 2: be able to stay in their relationship, and then immediately
Speaker 2: Katie asked to bury all of it, and they stop
Speaker 2: fighting and hug that. I'm sorry, No, no, no, that
Speaker 2: doesn't fucking exist, not to me. I we at least
Speaker 2: hold on for two to three episodes.
Speaker 3: Were talking around two to three episodes two three years. No,
Speaker 3: I don't agree with that. I will tell you this.
Speaker 3: I don't agree in the whole. I'm sorry, and that
Speaker 3: makes us okay. No, that's not the way real life works,
Speaker 3: and that's not the way I'm going to be on
Speaker 3: a show. If you're asking me to be authentic. If
Speaker 3: we really have a problem, we really have a problem,
Speaker 3: and if we both agree to really bury it, then
Speaker 3: we really bury it.
Speaker 2: But also at that point, if Katie really thinks that's
Speaker 2: how Gina is, I would have appreciated Katie going, you
Speaker 2: know what, Gina, I think you're opportunistic. Yep, I think
Speaker 2: you'll do anything for money. Like I needed her to
Speaker 2: come forward and really called Gina out on.
Speaker 3: What's so your style? So it's also you have experience
Speaker 3: in this area. Katie is new and she's going to
Speaker 3: grow a set of balls real fast next year, not
Speaker 3: this year. But that's something that you with experienced.
Speaker 2: Is speaking about. Right, Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 3: Do you know what I'm saying? Like you have a
Speaker 3: little bit of an edge, Well not a little bit,
Speaker 3: you have a lot of edge on.
Speaker 2: Her, but do you think so? Then we got into
Speaker 2: scenes for next week, we start to see shit really
Speaker 2: hit the fan. It seems like there's more stuff with
Speaker 2: Emily and what happened at the fashion show. It seems like,
Speaker 2: where do you think that goes?
Speaker 3: Do you think?
Speaker 2: Who do you think that?
Speaker 3: I guess what I'm asking is in that preview? Where
Speaker 3: do you think Emily's hurt is coming from? It is
Speaker 3: where my guess is.
Speaker 2: It's my guess is that whatever relationship that she and
Speaker 2: I truly have no idea. Emily and I do a
Speaker 2: podcast together and we've never once talked about Orange County.
Speaker 2: We really don't like she She's it's not even something
Speaker 2: like we're kind of it's you ever.
Speaker 3: Talked about your similar struggles.
Speaker 2: No, we actually haven't. Like it's not like us or
Speaker 2: even like me and Tare or like me and Tarama
Speaker 2: where we kind of dig deep, like we're just we
Speaker 2: come and we shoot the ship and we talk about
Speaker 2: it's like watercolor talk. But we we haven't really gotten
Speaker 2: deep about that. But I do think that I think
Speaker 2: it bothers her and my guess it's Heather. I think
Speaker 2: that she feels like she's being judged by Heather because
Speaker 2: of the comment oversized I think. I think in general,
Speaker 2: I think that other than Heather, Emily is probably the
Speaker 2: most financially sound and so there that I don't have
Speaker 2: that when it comes to finances. I have it with
Speaker 2: other shit.
Speaker 3: I want everybody to have as much as they can,
Speaker 3: because I feel like, yeah, when I'm around and abundance,
Speaker 3: I love it more.
Speaker 2: But I think she sees her best friend. I guess
Speaker 2: it would be like you and Renna, I guess, and
Speaker 2: then you add me into it, and then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, you start choosing me because I have more
Speaker 2: money than Rena, which this is not as never happened
Speaker 2: in our group, which it's never happened because none of
Speaker 2: us care. Because but I think that's what she feels
Speaker 2: like Gina is doing, is my guess.
Speaker 3: I know it's quite obvious that's what they think. I mean,
Speaker 3: Gina the whole I want, you know, to be nice
Speaker 3: to Heather because she can help me with my real
Speaker 3: estate business, which is true. I mean, but you're going
Speaker 3: to get referrals on your own. And honestly, I would
Speaker 3: mix business with that show. That's a pure recipe for disaster.
Speaker 2: Never don't do it.
Speaker 3: Don't don't let everyone have their separate businesses, support, buy
Speaker 3: things if you want. But that kind of shit is
Speaker 3: a recipe.
Speaker 2: No post shit. But you don't mix business relationships with
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 3: A reality TV show that's just like fraught with danger.
Speaker 2: No, it's beyond. It's never gonna end up good, never
Speaker 2: gonna end up good. But I'm excited for next week,
Speaker 2: and I appreciate you guys for tuning in. I do too.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me again.
Speaker 2: We want to have you always because you're amazing.
Speaker 3: Well I have fun here. Thank you,