1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: To Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Cambridge Edge. 2 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of to Tea's and 3 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Hey, I'm so 4 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: Apparently Jim Bellino thought he would clear things up by 5 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: going on Kelly Dodd and her husband Rick Levinthal's Patreon, 6 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: which I'm a little bit confused by this because I 7 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: had thought that Kelly Dodd said she wasn't ever going 8 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 2: to recap Orange County anymore because it was so terrible? 9 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: Am I Am I wrong on that statement? No, right, 10 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: that happened, But yet here we are. Jim Bellino went 11 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: on their show. He's shared his thoughts on his ex 12 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: wife Alexis and on Jensen's relationship. He said, I'm devastated, 13 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 2: can you tell? He joked after being asked about Alexis 14 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: and John, and he said, honestly, I check in with 15 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 2: my children. I'm a good dad. What I really care 16 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 2: about is how the person that Alexis is with affects 17 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: my children. I hear nothing but good things. He's what 18 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 2: a gentleman? Well that's what I'm what a gentleman? Because 19 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 2: if there was ever a time to take a swing. 20 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: That was it, right? 21 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, this guy's so far a class at Good for 22 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 3: you because what he said, you know, what I care 23 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 3: about is what you know how he is with my kids. 24 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 3: That's great, and you do want your exes to move on, 25 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 3: I mean. 26 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 2: But also he does have a little bit of a problem. 27 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 2: He does have a little bit of skin in the 28 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 2: game because he originally allegedly I don't know the exact amounts, 29 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: but sued Shannon and Tamra for going on a Heather 30 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: McDonald live show and for disparaging comments or whatever it 31 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: may be. So clearly he has a lot to gain 32 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: with showing that Alexis is doing the right thing once 33 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: again and blah blah blah, or you just do it. 34 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 2: I mean. But also, how can you say that somebody's 35 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 2: an opportunist or not when you're going on a podcast, 36 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 2: you're no longer having a platform and you're willing to share. 37 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: Are you talking about him? Yeah? 38 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 3: Well, look, if you don't want to be in it, 39 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 3: then you stop talking about it. The longer you talk 40 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 3: about it, the more life you give it. I think 41 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 3: that's true with anything, and certainly in the housewives world. 42 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 3: So anybody that wants to be on the show certainly 43 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 3: is welcoming that attention and welcoming that conversation to persist. 44 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: When Jim was then asked if he'd be happy when 45 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: Alexis and John Webb because it would mean he would 46 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 2: no longer have to pay her alimony, Jim seemingly denied 47 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 2: that was the case. That's actually something I can't comment 48 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: on regarding the alimony because that's an up in the 49 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: air subject whether alimony would stop or not. Isn't that 50 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: like in. 51 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 3: Law don't know, never got any so that lawsuits instead 52 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 3: and a whole lot of other shit, wouldn't know. 53 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: I do think in most I feel like I could 54 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 2: probably go into my prenup. I think that once you're married, 55 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: alimony stops. 56 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 3: In most cases, yes, you become the other guy's problem 57 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 3: with the other guy's expense. 58 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: Child support, however, does not stop until the age of 59 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: eighteen or twenty one, if they're going to call it 60 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 2: that's right or right? Okay, I mean not that I 61 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: not that I've researched brushed up on any honey, But yeah, no, 62 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: I am quite aware. 63 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 3: Knowledge is power. 64 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: Knowledge is power. So we are on season eighteen, episode ten, 65 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: the girls get ready for dinner. Emily tells Alexis the 66 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 2: videos came up that the situation is getting dirty and mean. Yeah, 67 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: Alexis says it's hard on her too, and everyone is 68 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: taking pity on Shannon. Alexis decides not to join everyone 69 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 2: at dinner. Did Alexis, in your opinion, make the right 70 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 2: decision to stay in her room? 71 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? 72 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 3: I think that there's no winning with Alexis going to dinner. 73 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 3: Let Shinnon have a moment of peace, and you know, 74 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: the story'll still be there. It's not like it's going anywhere, 75 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 3: So that's that doesn't bother me. 76 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 2: But my favorite part was when Alexis says this. I 77 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: assumed Emily would have like been like, come on, let's go. 78 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 3: She said okay, which I kind of appreciated because I 79 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 3: wish that that would happen somewhere with me, Like yeah, girl, 80 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 3: go ahead, you got it fine. 81 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 2: You know. 82 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 3: Well, it's also like when people run out and everybody 83 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 3: runs after them. 84 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and then they have the booms and people. 85 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 3: Are so yeah, you know the women on the show. 86 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 3: I'm like, just that broad run off, like can we 87 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 3: sit here and have a cocktail? 88 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? I feel like Alexis wanted Emily to be like, no, please. 89 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 3: Well didn't happen, so you got to You got the 90 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 3: night off in your room for twelve hours, like she 91 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 3: told us. 92 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: But I feel like she might have the rest of 93 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 2: the season off until the end because we don't see 94 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 2: her on the trip. I don't know this for a fact. 95 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 2: What trip are you talking about there, Alexis. 96 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 3: Well, but it's Shannon's trip and she said you're not 97 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 3: coming right. Well that's fair, I mean why should she look? 98 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 3: If I were Shannon, I wouldn't bite Alexis either. There's 99 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 3: no no good is going to come out of it. 100 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 3: What are we going to go to London and fight for? 101 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 3: However many you know those trips like seventy two hours 102 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 3: and with no food, bad food, liquor, and no sleep. 103 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 3: So I think that Shinna did the right thing. 104 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 2: But what are your thoughts on Granted, Alexis is not 105 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 2: a housewife, she's a friend of but. 106 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 3: I put in a lot of work for somebody who's 107 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 3: not a housewife. 108 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 2: But I have kind I mean, I've done the map, 109 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 2: like showing up you're kind of You're still making decent 110 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 2: money if you show up consistently yeah, but. 111 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 3: Do you. 112 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 2: I guess My question is Alexis has put herself out 113 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: there in this situation. She's now gone this far and 114 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 2: then it's going to stop. Yes, was it worth it? 115 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 3: That's only only Alexis can answer that question. She has 116 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 3: to do what's right for her. This is what you 117 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 3: know when people say, well I wouldn't have done it, Well, 118 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 3: good for you. You're not Alexis, You're not Shannon, You're not 119 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 3: in these situations. I mean, each person has to decide 120 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 3: what's worth it to them. 121 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 2: What does she want? 122 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 3: I guess, and we won't. I mean, we're not asking her, 123 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 3: so we don't know. But if she wanted to come on, 124 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 3: and you know, I don't know what her goal was. 125 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 2: But what is your thoughts on a housewife refusing to 126 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: film with somebody else? 127 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: That's not okay, because it's like when Lisa Vanda pump 128 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 3: up and left the show in the middle of the year. Yeah, 129 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 3: there were a lot of times I didn't want to film. 130 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 3: I didn't want to answer a lot of questions, which 131 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 3: you know, put me in a terrible place legally, and 132 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 3: still do by the way, But I did it, and 133 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 3: I honored my contract or. I should have packed my 134 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 3: shit and gone home and said, you. 135 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 2: Know what, I have to bow out. Yeah, I'm done. 136 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 3: I'm done. Not because I can't take it, but because 137 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 3: I can't take it, you know. Yeah, I don't think 138 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 3: that's okay. You can't refuse that. That's not a it's 139 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 3: not a thing. 140 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's probably I think I wonder 141 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: if that was something that happened in previous years. I mean, 142 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 2: I'll never work with her. I mean, I think at 143 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 2: some point there has been some housewives that have been 144 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 2: able to push through and get people pushed out. It's 145 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: like what's happening on New Jersey this year, where I 146 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 2: think they're hoping that they're going to push Teresa out. 147 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: And I just I personally, whether I think Teresa and 148 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 2: Louis are great or not, I personally think pushing her 149 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: out will be a mistake for the show. 150 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 3: I don't know enough about it to comment. I do 151 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 3: know this, Teresa brings a lot of eyeball. That whole 152 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 3: cast works very hard. Teresa, Margaret, Melissa, you know, they've 153 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 3: all been very friendly to me. Dolores, I mean. 154 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: I love her. 155 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, It's just I don't I have that is. 156 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 2: Above my pay grade, and she's She's like, not what 157 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 2: we're talking about, getting back to Ocie. 158 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: Getting back to this. 159 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 2: Then the women sit down for dinner. Heather reads a 160 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 2: text from Alexis saying she doesn't understand why Gina brought 161 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: up the videos when they aren't getting released. Shannon says 162 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 2: Alexis and John are strategizing and that she and John 163 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: used to do the same thing before filming. 164 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 3: Very telling, very telling. John and I used to do 165 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 3: the same thing before filming, so he does like. 166 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 2: It if you're if you're significant. 167 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 3: Strategize, be honest. There was a moment I didn't even 168 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 3: know the name of the show I was on. I'm 169 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 3: just gonna say, and truth was he didn't even know 170 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 3: my name sometimes, But that's another conversation. But Tom never 171 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: helped me other than to say, you be yourself, Erica 172 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 3: and just really sort of, you know, listen and try 173 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 3: to do what you feel is right. 174 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 2: Our strategy was only because our first time filming a date. Yeah, 175 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 2: if they would have aired, it would have ended us 176 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: because because Edwin is like one of those people and 177 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 2: you know him now at this point where he just 178 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 2: says dumb shit. So our first conversation was something about 179 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 2: are you going to have another baby? They like they 180 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 2: they were you know, this was way before Dove, way 181 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 2: before I thought i'd have another kid. And they they're like, 182 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 2: you guys should talk about you know, like how they 183 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 2: do like talk about the things. And you're that you've been. 184 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 3: Talking about You've been talking about things that you've been 185 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 3: thinking about, okay. 186 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,599 Speaker 2: And so they're like, you should talk about if you 187 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 2: want to have another baby, and so we start talking 188 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: about it, and Edwin says the quote, then you're gonna 189 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 2: get big again? Are you okay with that? 190 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 3: They let me ask you in them truthfully. 191 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: I honestly wanted to die in that moment. Well you 192 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 2: know that. Listen. 193 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 3: They they didn't show some things of Tom the way 194 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 3: he spoke down to me because it would have killed. 195 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 2: I mean killed him, it would had they shown that. 196 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 2: And then had we had car cams on the way home. 197 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 2: Oh did you let him have it? I mean I 198 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 2: sat that I took it in the moment. But this 199 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 2: is this is where it's real life, but it's not 200 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 2: real life. It's like imagine being on a double date 201 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: and your husband saying some shit like that, but you 202 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 2: kind of suck it up. I did it for years. 203 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, just you smile and you're like off your shoulders 204 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 3: because it doesn't do anything for you in the moment, 205 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 3: and you're also on camera. Yeah, you guys, suck that 206 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 3: shit up. 207 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 2: So I like sucked it up. And I was like, 208 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, you're so silly, blah blah blah. And 209 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 2: then we got in the fucking car and I was like, 210 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 2: I am disgusted that you said that. I'm furious that 211 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 2: you said that. You embarrass me, you hurt me, you know, 212 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: my past issues, like all of these things. And I 213 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 2: was like, but that is a real life conversation that 214 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 2: some dumbass men will. 215 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 3: Say more than I think you're willing to admit, you know, 216 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 3: like there are a lot of men that think that 217 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 3: say it, and then there are more that I think 218 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 3: it and don't say it. Like, let's be honest, this 219 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 3: is what people do. But there's something Now, how do 220 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 3: you feel about it now? 221 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 2: I mean, if we were in that same situation today 222 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 2: in the moment, I would have been like, go fuck 223 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 2: yourself nice, Like, you can't say that to me. It 224 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: hurts my feeling and. 225 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 3: It takes me back to a really bad. 226 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 2: It takes me back to a really bad place. But 227 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 2: I remember feeling that, that feeling of wanting to. 228 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 3: Protect him always, and women do this, and we do 229 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 3: it on the show and we do it in real. 230 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 2: Life, and it's not made up. It's not because I 231 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 2: wanted to give him a good edit. 232 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 3: It's natural. 233 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 2: It comes out. Yeah, And you want to protect yourself. 234 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: You want people to look at you and go, oh, 235 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 2: my gosh, your marriage is so good. 236 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 3: Well, I never looked at it. Wanted people to think. 237 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 3: I always got criticism for my marriage number one, because 238 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 3: I was so much younger and he was older, and 239 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 3: I was broke and he was rich and whatever. But 240 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 3: I never wanted them to think it was perfect, because 241 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 3: it was not perfect from the outside, just on its face. 242 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 3: But I did want people to understand that we. 243 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 2: Always loved there. 244 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 3: Absolutely, we really did love each other, and I really 245 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 3: did love this man. So I know exactly what you're saying. 246 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 3: There's just that weird, weird pivot back and forth. And 247 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 3: I don't think that people you have a lot of 248 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 3: courage to admit that he said that now, I mean 249 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 3: that you know something that could have lived in the 250 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 3: shadows for forever. 251 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we talk about it still. So, yes, there 252 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 2: were moments did we stress. But the strategy was after 253 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 2: the fact. It was you have to think about what. 254 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 3: You're saying before you say it. Yeah. 255 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, because yes, that hurt me and I'll remember it forever, 256 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 2: but imagine the amount of other women that's gonna hurt 257 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 2: when it plays out. 258 00:12:58,080 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 3: I remember talking, you know, come to think of it, 259 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 3: I remember talking so Erica, I'm talking like shut up. 260 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I remember that. 261 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I just was like, okay, here we go, 262 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 3: you know, and you just you sucked it down. Oh yes, 263 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 3: and you kept on going. It just a fuck because 264 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 3: if I show any reaction. 265 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 2: Right now, it may get more airtime. 266 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 3: It gets more airtime. Someone will seize upon that moment, 267 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 3: someone sees cracks in the foundation and they go for it. Yeah, 268 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 3: so you have to, you know, unless you're just like, 269 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 3: fuck this shit, I've had enough of you. Yeah, probably 270 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 3: what I should have done did not, But I don't 271 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 3: take anything I do. 272 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 2: But I think what alexis is doing. I mean, she's 273 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 2: also what less than a year into her relationship. 274 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 3: With which is all this fantasy land. It still feels good. 275 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 3: This is what I want to say, And I don't 276 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 3: know these people, but I do know something about human nature. 277 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 3: It's only a matter of time before he does to 278 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 3: Alexis what he did to Shannon, even under the best 279 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 3: of circumstances. And it may not be this year, it 280 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 3: may not be in three years, and it may take 281 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 3: five ten you but it will be done because people 282 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 3: are who they are, right, cheaters, it doesn't matter. Maybe 283 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 3: you didn't cheat today, but you will do it again. 284 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 2: But if you're capable of cheating. 285 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 3: You will do it again when given the opportunity. 286 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, And you may, you know, you may do work 287 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 2: on yourself, and you may put yourself in situations to 288 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 2: set up boundaries so that it happens less. 289 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, it's still running 290 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 3: around your head. 291 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, at the end of the day, you're thinking about it. 292 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 2: And if you're thinking about it, it's only a matter 293 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 2: of time. Yeah, But they the women said for dinner, 294 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 2: Shannon tells the women she doesn't want to talk about 295 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 2: John the entire dinner, but then she proceeds to tell 296 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 2: the women John refused her offer. In my opinion this week, 297 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 2: I don't. 298 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 3: Want to talk about it, but yeah, like I get it, 299 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 3: you know, I get it, I get it. 300 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 2: She wanted to get her a point across. But this 301 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 2: wasn't I gotta be honest, it wasn't Shannon's best episode. 302 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 2: She seemed a little. 303 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 3: I don't think it was her worst from what I've 304 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 3: seen this year. I'm not her worst ever. 305 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 2: But her worst this season. I think I think she 306 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 2: seemed the most out of it. 307 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 3: Well, here's what I want to say. I just I 308 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 3: would prefer not to see her drinking while she's in 309 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 3: such a terrible time. I think that that's counterproductive. So 310 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 3: when I see her order a cocktail, I'm like, God, 311 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 3: don't do that, you know, just but I mean, you're 312 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 3: in a bad PA. 313 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 2: But you've done it too. I've done it too. 314 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, girl, I was trying to die. I was trying 315 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 3: to hurt myself. I was really trying to not wake 316 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 3: up and not hear it anymore. You know, I was tired, 317 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 3: so I didn't care. I don't know what she's feeling, 318 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 3: but that's true. I wanted it to stop, all of it. 319 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 2: So so you you consciously knew I'm numbing myself. 320 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 3: Yes, absolute, I made choices to numb myself, bad choices. 321 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 3: But this is and I know this, and that's why 322 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 3: I continue to stay in therapy. And why I got 323 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 3: so upset when the verdict was read last week was 324 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 3: because look guilty or not, I slid back into a 325 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 3: place where I thought, oh shit, it's happening again, Like 326 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 3: I feel weird again. I feel like I can't get 327 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 3: out of bed again. And I had to call my 328 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 3: therapist and be like, what is happening to me? 329 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, but that's but where you No, I think 330 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 2: this is an interesting topic because we I throw my 331 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 2: life away, Yeah you you. I was done with the 332 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 2: whole thing, but you weren't saying I'm good right now? 333 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, And I think I think there's a 334 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: very different situation you're going. Yeah, I'm in a fucked 335 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 2: up situation right now. I'm not well. 336 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 3: I'm drinking to to make it stop, Yeah, to numb myself, 337 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 3: which is all the wrong things to do. I did 338 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 3: all the wrong things in front of everybody. 339 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: And I can say, for all the years that I 340 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 2: ever filmed the show with you, you barely ever drink. 341 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 3: And guess what, now that I'm healthy and now that 342 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 3: I feel good, who's barely drinking? Yeah barely? Yeah, So 343 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 3: to see that out of me. Everybody was like this year. 344 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 2: It was a different person than I've ever seen, a 345 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: different person. But Alexis spends the entire Big Bear trip 346 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 2: threatening the videos. But then she also now we're in Sonoma, 347 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 2: and she's like, how could she bring up the videos? Well, 348 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 2: you can't. 349 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 3: You can't have it both ways. We're either gonna stand 350 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 3: beside showing the videos or we're not. We can't play 351 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 3: the good guy. All of a sudden, I wonder what 352 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 3: that is. Did they strategize to be nicer? 353 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 2: But also what's on the fucking videos? 354 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 3: Well, you tell me what you thought was in the videos? 355 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 2: I know, but like at this point, we can't talk, 356 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 2: just like we can't talk about Gina and Katie anymore. 357 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 2: In my opinion, I'm done. I actually were tired. I'm tired. 358 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 2: You're tired. 359 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 3: I can tell she's tired of the show. 360 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: Like, what was it that they said on New York 361 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 2: like my pant or was it Dallas. 362 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 3: My lovely Leanne Lockin, You're a legend? 363 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, like my panty liner is tired of the storyline 364 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 2: between Gina and Katie. 365 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 3: Panty liner who wears a panty. 366 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 2: She's a fucking legend. But the women are splitting up, 367 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 2: of course. So just to give you guys backstory, that's 368 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 2: a thing. There's always a split up like which and 369 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 2: you're not in charge of it. No, you don't get 370 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 2: to pick your group. 371 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 3: I wish. 372 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, you're told. And then that's why you have 373 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 2: one awkward housewife describing what you're gonna do, Like you're like, hey, guys, 374 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 2: we're gonna go to like the smoke get making. Yeah, 375 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 2: well that what they did, and they you know, they 376 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 2: wanted themselves dead while they were biscuit making because they're hungover. 377 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 2: We had seen Tamra stick her finger and Emily's buttthole. 378 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 3: Which is kind of wild. I don't know that I 379 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 3: would be repeating that. 380 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 2: That's kind of that. 381 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 3: I like Tamra, I like Emily. That's a bridge too 382 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 3: far from me. You're never sticking your finger in my 383 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 3: ass and vice versa. 384 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 2: Listen, I like you a lot, but I'm not. I 385 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 2: don't need to see your are I love you? 386 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 3: I love you, but like from a distance, Yeah, the world. 387 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 2: Seems to Yes, she's the singer. I'm not. But uh 388 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 2: so there's Emily, Tamra and Gina and Alexis go biscuit 389 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 2: making where they all wear the fucking chef hats, which 390 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 2: I also don't love when everybody has to have a 391 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 2: prop and then Jen, Katie and Heather go to it. 392 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 2: They're calling it a sound bath, but. 393 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 3: I didn't see one. I saw a nice lady. The 394 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 3: resort looked beautiful, though it did look like to have 395 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 3: gone there actually lies. 396 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 2: You do not want to be in one of those 397 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: little cabins. 398 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 3: Excuse me, lady, I was with you in way worse. Okay, 399 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 3: so you'd be quiet. Okay, this one selective memory. 400 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 2: At pretend it took me. Hold on, let's pull it 401 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 2: way back and let's replay that staircase episode. Okay, I 402 00:19:58,520 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 2: get it. 403 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 3: No I did in the moment I did in the moment, 404 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 3: no I had. I had forgotten it. And then it 405 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 3: was like, oh, well, you know. 406 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 2: That's the thing. 407 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 3: That's the great part about shooting a season is you 408 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 3: say a lot of things, you forget something small, and 409 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 3: then yeah, gotcha. 410 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 2: But then Shannon isn't feeling well from the stress, but 411 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 2: she eventually joins the soundbath, but cannot stop coughing. The 412 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 2: thing annoying. The thing about the coughing, though, is remember 413 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 2: I filmed. I would assume a week prior the Trader's 414 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 2: episode and Shannon had that hacking cough. Then I'm like, 415 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 2: is this a bronchial thing? Are you allergic to something? 416 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 3: And a Z pack? 417 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, like you may need a p you may need 418 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 2: to up it from a Z pack to a Marxist cyllin. 419 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 3: Or yeah, a meta metal pack. Yes, Auntie mflams. You 420 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 3: know the thing is that to imagine the stress that 421 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 3: she is under and it's cold, it's raining, you know 422 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 3: you get tired under those conditions. 423 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 2: But did you ever sleep till twelve thirty in the afternoon? 424 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 3: No, I think that I woke up hungover in France Provence. 425 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 2: But that was my That's my question. Do you think 426 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 2: that day she woke up? Do you think she was hungover? 427 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 2: Do you think she was stressed like they couldn't get 428 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,479 Speaker 2: her out to film? Well, we don't know. 429 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 3: I let me not speculate. 430 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 2: I don't know. We'd hate to speculate. 431 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not cool, but if. 432 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 2: We were an investigative. 433 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 3: But I know that there were times that I I'll 434 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 3: speak for myself. When I was going through what I 435 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 3: was going through, I was heavily medicated. So I still 436 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 3: got out of bed at the right time, but not 437 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 3: without a fight. You know, that was a struggle. 438 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 2: And I just want to be clear. It's not that 439 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 2: nobody is going to come in and wake you up. 440 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 3: No, you have to get up on your own. Yeah, 441 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 3: that you have a commitment to wake up and to 442 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 3: show up at the right time, and then if you 443 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 3: don't show up, that's right, that's on you. That's on you, 444 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 3: and then that's on you. And I'm not And I'm 445 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 3: also not going to go run after someone if they didn't. 446 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 2: Like we're ald adults, but I mean there were times 447 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 2: where we were told, like, you have ten minutes get 448 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 2: down to breakfast, and you do have ten minutes, and 449 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 2: you have ten minutes and it's your job, and if 450 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 2: you're unable to do your job, I do think there's 451 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 2: room for concern. 452 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 3: Yes, for sure, like if you're I mean again, we 453 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 3: weren't there, so let's not jump to conclusions. 454 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 2: But if when we got to moments where Denise, oh 455 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 2: my god, you know god, we got to moments where Denise, yeah, 456 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 2: welcome to life with me. We got to moments where 457 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,719 Speaker 2: Denise wouldn't show up to things, that was so frustrating, 458 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 2: and she would demand a hotel room even though we're 459 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 2: all filming in la and we're doing whatever. 460 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 3: And at the Waldorf, at the fucking Waldorf, and they 461 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 3: paid for it. 462 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 2: Do cut that out? Yeah, Like they put her in 463 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: a hotel to show up to the finale, and then 464 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 2: she never showed up to the finale. That's like to me, 465 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 2: those are irritating things. And it's also signed of a 466 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 2: problem in your life. If you commit to something and 467 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 2: you can't show up, you got to show up. 468 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 3: But I do think that Shannon has real problems here. 469 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 3: I don't think that she's making it up. 470 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:11,479 Speaker 2: Well, I don't think she's making it up. 471 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know you don't, but but you know, yeah. 472 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 2: But it's but also do you think, Okay, let's say 473 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 2: I had a drinking or a pill or whatever problem. 474 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 2: Would you be mad at me if I I I 475 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 2: if it was years and years or would you try 476 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 2: to help me? Like, would you be going and getting 477 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 2: me up to go? 478 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 3: You've touched on something years and years, So at first, 479 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 3: if you were going through a very stressful time, I'd 480 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 3: be like, you know what, let's leave her be now. 481 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 3: Then after a while it becomes a problem. No, I'm 482 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,479 Speaker 3: not going to get you. No, I'm not checking on you. 483 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 3: We're all adults and you have to handle that yourself. 484 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 3: And if you can't, you need to speak out and 485 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 3: you know, maybe have somebody. You have to make the 486 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 3: right choices to succeed here, because shit's bad, life's bad, 487 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 3: You're under a lot of stress. You can't continuously make 488 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 3: bad decisions and expect a good result. That's what I'm 489 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 3: getting at. It's not being judgmental. It's just that, hey, 490 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 3: if you continue this behavior, you know, nothing good comes 491 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 3: from it. And if we really want to get out 492 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 3: of this place and not feel this way, we can't 493 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 3: have drinks. 494 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, that's not our best thing to do. 495 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 3: It's not the best decision. It's actually the complete opposite 496 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 3: for winning, you know. 497 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 2: Alexis then tells the woman she's willing to move forward 498 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 2: and find a way to coexist with Shannon, which I 499 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 2: thought was nice. I thought that this was Alexis's best episode. 500 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, which I thought is you know. I mean, oh 501 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 3: my god, I'm such an ass to do strategize. 502 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 2: Sorry. 503 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, ah, the conversations in my head are lovely. Yeah, 504 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 3: I'm hoping that was from the heart. You know that 505 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 3: that comes from thoughtful like you know, I'm hoping. 506 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 2: So And then Tamra says it kills her to watch 507 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 2: Shannon order drinks. Gina tells Tarma she can't set the 508 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 2: boundaries for everyone else. 509 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 3: But she can't be annoyed. Yes, she can't express Look, no, 510 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 3: you can't set the boundaries for anybody else. At the 511 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 3: end of the day, people are going to do what 512 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 3: they want to do. But it doesn't mean that you 513 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 3: can't say, hey, like you just said about our other friend, 514 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 3: that can't fuck everybody else up, you know, right? 515 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 2: And I mean, Alexis, I hate to break it to you, 516 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 2: but I I don't think that you're the one setting 517 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 2: the boundaries at this point. No, like you're You're just 518 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 2: you're playing along with whatever is going to happen with 519 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 2: Shannon at this current time. 520 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: Yea. 521 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 2: Then Katie tells Heather that everything that happened was a setup. 522 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 2: Heather says that will first year setup for We love it. 523 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 2: We love you first your setup, we love to do it. 524 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 3: We all have friendship going really thriving. 525 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 2: Heather says they're going backwards now and she doesn't want 526 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 2: to go there is there a different way Katie should 527 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 2: be playing this. 528 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 3: I take full responsibility for my part in what I did. Heather, 529 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 3: I'm very sorry. 530 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 2: Leave it. 531 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, don't bring it up with anybody else. If you 532 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 3: want to cuss out Gene on the side, that's fine, 533 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 3: But don't say the devil made me do it. 534 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I may have said that from time 535 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 2: to time. 536 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 3: I may take this as a growth moment. 537 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 2: We're growing here. We grow here on the growth mind. 538 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 2: We're actually a motivational podcast. Now we've switched over. But 539 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 2: in golf terms, Katie took a whiff at this one. 540 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, just just just say I take responsibility for, you know, 541 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 3: my bad behavior, and move on. 542 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 2: Yeah. Then the women arrive at the family Equality event, 543 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 2: which was nice. It was nice. Emily and Alexis are 544 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 2: wearing the same dress, which upsets Emily. The designer puts 545 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 2: Emily and she says in quotes oversized jacket and yeah, 546 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 2: and Emily is the one who had to bring her 547 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 2: own genes, which makes Emily feel not great. I'm gonna 548 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 2: pass this to you from somebody who has dealt with 549 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 2: an eating disorder and also having body dysmorphia. I think 550 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 2: it's very hard because people will say comments like, oh, 551 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 2: she said she's insecure about her arms, but then she's 552 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 2: wearing a tank top and all of her confessionals, or 553 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 2: she's her whole storyline is how she's being fit, but 554 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 2: now she's feeling insecure. I think that we can't control 555 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 2: how we feel in our own bodies. And there are 556 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 2: times in my life where my it doesn't matter like 557 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 2: the number on the scale. Truthfully, but if I'm in 558 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 2: a good place in my life and I'm feeling confident 559 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 2: and good, I can feel really sexy, I can feel 560 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 2: really attractive, i can feel really proud of how I'm doing. 561 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 2: And then there are times when I'm not doing well. 562 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 2: I may be the skinniest I've ever heard, but I 563 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 2: will see myself in a very ugly way. But also, 564 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 2: I think a part that's not being discussed, in which 565 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 2: we're all judging is comparison kills all joy. Yes, and 566 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 2: so if you're sitting there, and we have to also 567 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 2: remember Emily's significantly taller than the majority of the girls. 568 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: When you're put in clothing and you're and you're you know, 569 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 2: you're not forced, but you're asked to do a situation 570 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 2: where you show yourself off in a different way. 571 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 3: I say no, that's the thing. You're not forced, but 572 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 3: you can't say no. I don't know what that means. 573 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't think that we can, regardless of 574 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 2: how Emily the same way that you will say, how 575 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 2: many fucks do I give? 576 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 3: Zero? 577 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 2: None, not one, Emily will say the same thing when 578 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 2: it comes to her physical self, but clearly she's showing 579 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 2: now that she does. Well. You're look. 580 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 3: No one is one hundred percent all the time, confident, 581 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 3: comfortable in their own skin, and nothing everything just bounces 582 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 3: off them. I think that that's misleading. Yeah, human beings, 583 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 3: we are allowed to feel good, bad, mixed, confused, angry, sad. 584 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 3: So I understand what you said. One day I may 585 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 3: be feeling awesome, and the next day, even though I 586 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 3: may be the same weight or whatever, I feel disgusting. 587 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 3: Maybe not disgusting, just I don't feel confident. And I 588 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 3: have this too sometimes, like in costume on stage, you know, 589 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 3: I look at it. I was really thin for better 590 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 3: at all, and blonde on purpose because I knew that 591 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 3: we were making a doc and I wanted it to 592 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 3: look a certain way. So I really scaled down and 593 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 3: I'm glad. I did, because now when I look at it, 594 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, ah, I like the way I look, But 595 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 3: that doesn't mean that I liked the way my face looked. Yeah, 596 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 3: because I looked haggard when I saw you, you know, 597 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 3: in Vegas. I just looked tired and run down. That 598 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 3: being said, look, is there too much emphasis on us 599 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 3: as women and our appearance? Yes, but are we on 600 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 3: a television show that's about lifestyle and appearance. 601 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? 602 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. And it's okay to feel good, and it's okay 603 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 3: to feel. 604 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 2: Bad, And I think that it's okay to say, like, 605 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 2: from one season to another, it's okay to say, like, yeah, 606 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 2: I'm a fuck it, I'm gonna go in the sauna 607 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 2: and eat it. Because there was one point where like, 608 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 2: she goes in the sauna and sheats like a subway 609 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 2: sandwich and everybody's like laughing at her, and she's like, 610 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 2: I fucking own it. I wanted this sandwich. To then 611 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 2: go into the next season and be in a different 612 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 2: part of your life and you've changed so many parts 613 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 2: of it, and then all of a sudden you see changes, 614 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 2: and then they're not quite the changes. Other people aren't 615 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 2: seeing the changes that you may be seeing. And so 616 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 2: then they say a word like oversized or I mean, 617 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 2: I know, even for me, if I go for a 618 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 2: photoshoot and I mean, I'm a million years past where 619 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 2: I was. But if I go for a photo shoot 620 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 2: and I'm a small like in general. 621 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 3: She's a small person and she's really tiny. 622 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 2: I am a small human in general. But I went 623 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 2: in for a photo shoot recently and I didn't fit 624 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 2: in scale size. I was too big, like my ribcage 625 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 2: was too big and they had to pin me. 626 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 3: Did that make you feel a certain way? 627 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 2: And it made, to be honest, Tamra did. Oh, And 628 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 2: there was a moment. I wasn't mad at Tamra. I 629 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 2: wasn't mad at myself, but there was a moment of like, 630 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 2: I'm embarrassed that, like we both sent our sizes and 631 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 2: they were the same, and yet I don't fit in 632 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 2: the dress that they sent for me. Sure, and Tamra 633 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 2: does I see. Yeah, I get it. 634 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 3: I get it, I really do. 635 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 2: And it's not that I don't like myself or I 636 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 2: hate myself, but I. 637 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 3: Think it's like a reminder of a wound that's there. Yeah, 638 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 3: you know, it's like just like poking a little sensitive 639 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 3: spot and I get that, and that that that still hurts. 640 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 3: And the thing is that you you know it, acknowledge it, 641 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 3: and how did you overcome it? 642 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 2: No? I just said to them, I said, hey, guys, 643 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 2: I'm fine to wear this dress, but yeah, can I 644 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 2: don't want to just leave it open. I'd prefer if 645 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 2: we could get hooks and pin it so it's tighter 646 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 2: against me. It gives you yeah, and and and then 647 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 2: I just pretty much had to like have a conversation 648 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 2: with myself, like Taddy this and I know this is 649 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 2: going to sound crazy to you guys, but like you 650 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 2: have a wide ribcage, you have broader shoulders. This is 651 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 2: who you are. 652 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, you're so tiny compared to me. 653 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 2: No, but like you see what I was saying, like 654 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 2: whatever it may be, like it, I had to like 655 00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 2: give myself that peptic to. 656 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 3: Give yourself some grace. You know, we all need to 657 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 3: like stop beating up on ourselves a little bit, like 658 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 3: it's not your fault. 659 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. But but do you think that Heather knew that 660 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 2: Emily was feeling that way because she kept asking if 661 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 2: she okay? 662 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,479 Speaker 3: I think the better question is is at what point 663 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 3: did Heather think Emily was not okay, I think that's 664 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 3: the better question. Like, did Heather think about it going 665 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 3: into the fashion show? I don't know when did she start? 666 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 3: Did she hear it from someone else? Like, I don't know. 667 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 2: It seemed like because she seemed very observant of Emily's 668 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 2: mental state around that. But if you're that aware of 669 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 2: it leading into it, you probably would have planned accordingly. 670 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 2: I would have. 671 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't know, Like, I don't know. I was 672 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 3: going to ask you that, do you think Heather had 673 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 3: a discussion with Emily free fashion show? 674 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 2: Hey? What do you? 675 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 3: But then that's awkward too, Hey what are you comfortable with? 676 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 2: Like? Do you you know? You want to make everybody 677 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 2: feel comfortable? You want to make everybody feel. 678 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 3: Like And I'm not saying that Heather did not do that. 679 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 3: Let's not don't jump to conclusions. 680 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 2: I just don't. We don't know. But then we hear 681 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 2: Emily saying I'm the only one wearing jeans. That being said, Emily, 682 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 2: I thought you looked freaking stunning walking down that runway. 683 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 1: Yeah. 684 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 3: I thought she did a great job, So. 685 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 2: You owned it. I think you're sexy, I think you're beautiful. 686 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 2: I think that you've worked really hard, and you deserve 687 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 2: to give yourself your flowers like you. Yeah, you should 688 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 2: feel great, but I also understand those moments when even 689 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 2: when you should feel great, that you don't. 690 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 3: That's yes, that's universal. 691 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 2: Then Heather tells Tama that she didn't let Katie talk, 692 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 2: and Tamra says Katie was set up and hung to dry. 693 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 2: Tamra says Gina is behind all of this. She says 694 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 2: Gina told Katie that she was probably right about the paparazzi, 695 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 2: but she can't go there with Heather because Gina has 696 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 2: to keep Heather closed for real estate connected. I love 697 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 2: it so much. 698 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 3: Yes, Now, then it gets into a little we get 699 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 3: into a little word situation here later A word salad, 700 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 3: A word salad. I didn't say that. I said this. 701 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 3: Here's the problem. It may not be the exact verbiage. 702 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 3: If I'm using that correctly, what was the meaning the same? Like, 703 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 3: I don't know this is But do you think. 704 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,439 Speaker 2: That Katie may have been fibbing by backtracking, because later 705 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 2: in the episode, Katie backtracks on what she said to Tamra. 706 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 3: I think Katie is experiencing first season putting your foot 707 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 3: in it. That's what I think is happening. I really do. 708 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 2: I like Tina in general, but I don't need to 709 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 2: see this much of her storyline. You mean the what 710 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 2: is it like specifically? Is bothering you? It's bothering me 711 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 2: that I feel like we're seeing a lot of Gina 712 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 2: and not a lot of everybody else. 713 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 3: Like would you like to see more of pretty much anyone? 714 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 2: Oh, because we're hearing a lot about. 715 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 3: Travis, which I still don't quite understand because they're not 716 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 3: seeing Travis, but I don't understand why he's why they split? 717 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 3: What am I missing? 718 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 2: Financial? So they have eighty two kids and they lived 719 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 2: in a three bedroom. 720 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,959 Speaker 3: So he took himself and his children and moved somewhere else. 721 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 2: She wanted to buy a bigger she wanted them to 722 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 2: have more space. Okay, he couldn't afford to do that, 723 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 2: so she bought herself a place in the same community 724 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 2: that he has a place with his kids. So now 725 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 2: they're like communal, living back and forth between each other's place. 726 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 3: I so they didn't put the money together to get 727 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 3: the bigger place. 728 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 2: And no because potentially issues with an ex wife of 729 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 2: his or Okay, it's really unclear. My guess is she's 730 00:36:59,239 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 2: not that. 731 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 3: Into him, and it feels like she's very much focused 732 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 3: on her career and her future, which is great and 733 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 3: it's great. I'm just telling you that's how right. 734 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 2: But feel in that moment you can kind of get 735 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 2: to a place of some if that person that you're 736 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 2: with doesn't seem like they're as focused on their growth 737 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 2: and their career and financial to me, sometimes it can 738 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 2: be unattractive. I agree, I agree, But then all of 739 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 2: a sudden, when you pull away from it, then you 740 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 2: feel alone. 741 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 3: And you can't have it both ways either, it's not 742 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 3: like it's you can't be like a little bit pregnant 743 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 3: either are or not? You know, like, but it's true. 744 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 3: I mean, what are we doing here? 745 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 2: We're all adults, yeah, and so I but I have 746 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 2: to say I'm a little bit over the Katie Katie 747 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 2: situation of it all. But then, but what would we 748 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 2: do if we didn't have it right? We? I mean, we. 749 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,839 Speaker 3: Need people to make mistakes so we can talk about it. Well, 750 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 3: add knows, I've made my verysure well other things and 751 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 3: y'all have talked about it, so fuck you. 752 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I will talk about it in probably six 753 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 2: weeks from now. Can't wait. But if you cannot name 754 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 2: Tamar in this, if you had to pick a best 755 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 2: friend from Mosci, who would have Heather? Have me over 756 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 2: to the Balbo Bay close over here. 757 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 3: To the fucking VH shit. Y'all got room. I'm gonna 758 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 3: hit all of you hoes up here. We got Kyle 759 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 3: dub you. I was going to do a whole tour 760 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 3: her over there. Just drive my ass back on home. 761 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 3: You know, well, I live in a cute neighborhood, but 762 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 3: I'm not flossing like the rest of the ladies. 763 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 2: Well you fla, you lost us for a lot of 764 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 2: I did real good for a long time. Then Tamar 765 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 2: tells Katie she told Heather, and Heather responded that Gina 766 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 2: will never get business from her, and Katie says Gina 767 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 2: is going to hate her forever. Then Alexis tells Heather 768 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,280 Speaker 2: that Emily asked her to talk to Shannon tonight. Heather says, 769 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,919 Speaker 2: this event might be the right moment since it's about love. 770 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 2: I know, I guess it's like the homeless not toothless. 771 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 2: For the record, at a group event, there's never a 772 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 2: right time. 773 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 3: No, But that's also what makes it so great is 774 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 3: that there's never right time, which is why it's the 775 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 3: right time to do these things, because you get the 776 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 3: best reactions and the most awkward of places. 777 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 2: Some of my some of my favorite moments of this night, 778 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 2: which is I feel like we may see Heather tipsy 779 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 2: for the first time, which is fun. Which she's like, 780 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 2: I need my readers and I'm not having this conversation tonight. 781 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 2: And then there was a moment where I think it's 782 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 2: prior to Alexis going up to Shannon to try to 783 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 2: have that conversation. Does she say I think you look cute? 784 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 2: Then Shannon completely ignores her. 785 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,919 Speaker 3: You know, it's a long night. 786 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 2: But you know when you like, I'm that person that's 787 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 2: like at the grocery store and like, well awkwardly wave 788 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 2: if I think I see somebody I know, and then 789 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 2: if they don't see it, I'm like, do you really? 790 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't even bother way No, I mean. 791 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 3: That's such a weirdo. I'm like, is that who I 792 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 3: think it is? 793 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 2: And you know, but like it it was pretty I 794 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 2: mean it was pretty telling. Alexis got a talking to. 795 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 2: She's like, they're like, if you want to keep filming, 796 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,359 Speaker 2: you're gonna you're nice. You're gonna be nice, and you're 797 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 2: going to clear this shit up with Shannon. 798 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 3: But I think, look, it is the right thing to do. 799 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 3: Clean it up with Shannon as much as possible, and also, like, 800 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 3: you know, we're on episode ten and let's. 801 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 2: Move along, right. But then Emily tells Shannon for the 802 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 2: sake of the group, they should have a conversation. Shannon 803 00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 2: says no, right, and then Shannon tells Alexis she's not 804 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 2: interested in talking. I did appreciate that when Shannon said no, 805 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 2: Alexis didn't chase her. 806 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 3: I know that sounds crazy below, it's actually adult. It's 807 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 3: actually the right thing to do, which is no, Okay, 808 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 3: she tried, and you know, look, there's never a right 809 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 3: time to have these really weird conversations. 810 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:25,839 Speaker 2: Is it's not. 811 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,839 Speaker 3: But I do appreciate the fact that she didn't chase 812 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 3: after her. She didn't make a big deal. 813 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 2: Yeah. Then the women go bike riding to one last vineyard, Gina. 814 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 3: Toushian River, by the way, have you been there? 815 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 2: No? 816 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 3: But it looks pretty. 817 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,359 Speaker 2: Let's go. Okay, let's do a pod from there. Can 818 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 2: we get in your rvy though the RV's sold. I 819 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:47,799 Speaker 2: know did you get a bigger one? 820 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: No? 821 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,359 Speaker 3: No, let's get on your private plane and. 822 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 2: Let's do you know, let's go to Jez Sweet Axe 823 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 2: and see if we can find a vander Pumper rules plane. 824 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 3: Since they seem to stalk you. 825 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 2: Then Gina tells Katie she's upset that she's circling back 826 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,319 Speaker 2: on the situation. Katie says she's heard she's calling her 827 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,760 Speaker 2: a liar. Gina says, she brought Katie into this group, 828 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 2: and she or, I'll check her out, nodding, but also 829 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 2: bringing people into the group really posses me off. What 830 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 2: do you mean by that? Because nobody brings anybody into 831 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,839 Speaker 2: the fucking group? Like, did Eileen really bring you into 832 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 2: the group? No? It was Belande, Fine. 833 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,439 Speaker 3: Did you let's say she really did? 834 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 2: Sorry? Did Yolanda really bring you under the group? Really did? 835 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:34,240 Speaker 3: Though? 836 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 2: She did? 837 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:36,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? 838 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:37,360 Speaker 3: You don't know the story? 839 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:38,839 Speaker 2: No, how I was out? 840 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll tell you, yes, tell it, Okay, I'm confused. 841 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 3: Tom and I went to visit David and Yolanda at 842 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 3: their house in Malibu, and Yolanda was sick and she 843 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 3: was We were talking and then she looked at me 844 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,959 Speaker 3: and she said, have you ever thought of being on 845 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,880 Speaker 3: Your Housewives of Beverly Hills, and I said no, and 846 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,879 Speaker 3: she pulled out her phone and she said, I think 847 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 3: you'd be great. Let me text my boss, which became 848 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,319 Speaker 3: our boss, Alex Baskin, which we love who we love, 849 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 3: Hey Alex, And she set up a phone call and 850 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 3: I remember Alex saying, this can either be five minutes 851 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 3: or the rest of you know, however many years, and 852 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 3: it ended up being nine years now, So yeah, she 853 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 3: really did. But I will say this, you know, Lisa 854 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,839 Speaker 3: Renna knew everybody she brought. I mean, if you wanted 855 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,720 Speaker 3: Lisa Reynold is like the Lisa Rennet is like the portal. 856 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 2: But no real. But I think knowing somebody and giving 857 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,839 Speaker 2: their name, like there's been a million people like. 858 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 3: Well you refer people. 859 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,800 Speaker 2: Even still to this day, I'm not even on the show, 860 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 2: and I still still get text message just like, hey Teddy, 861 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 2: is there anyone that you think that would be good? 862 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 3: And I say yes, and they asked me, and then 863 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,800 Speaker 3: then I said I don't have friends, so they stopped 864 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 3: asking me. 865 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 2: They've all been fired. 866 00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 3: Yes, I don't have friends, so and nobody asked me 867 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 3: for any recommendations on anything, and I'm okay with that, 868 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:05,799 Speaker 3: but I. 869 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 2: Still send them. But I wasn't brought in in that 870 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 2: same way. So are you brought in by I was 871 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 2: brought in because I was on another reality television show, 872 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 2: but I don't know this. Oh yeah, this is the backstory. 873 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 2: It was on e produced by the same company that 874 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 2: does the Kardashians, and it was very It never aired. 875 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,799 Speaker 2: I did the pilot and it was like one of 876 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 2: those situations where I was like, this is the worst 877 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 2: thing that I've ever done in my entire life. And 878 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 2: so I called my old boss at CAA that I 879 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,280 Speaker 2: was his assistant, and I said, I signed a contract 880 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,320 Speaker 2: to do a show. I'm so scared it's going to 881 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 2: get picked up. Please help me. I did this all 882 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 2: this shit on my own. And he's like, no problem, 883 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 2: I'm going to site you up with my junior who's 884 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,279 Speaker 2: now like the head of talent or whatever, but it's 885 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 2: still my agent. And I said, please get me out 886 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,359 Speaker 2: of this. I can't, I can't, like my I'll die. 887 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 3: I never had these conversations and always like get me 888 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 3: in now. 889 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 2: This was really a doozy of a sage. And so 890 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 2: then at that point my eighth the lady that had 891 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 2: taken over getting me out of that contract said would 892 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,840 Speaker 2: you ever do Real Housewives? And at that point, I 893 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,760 Speaker 2: truthfully had never watched. 894 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,319 Speaker 3: I had not either. People do not believe you when 895 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 3: you say I knew who the players were, but I 896 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:23,880 Speaker 3: had never walked. 897 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 2: No, like The Bachelor, those types of shows were the 898 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 2: shows that I watched. 899 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,319 Speaker 3: I really I remember the Real World in eighty nine 900 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:32,359 Speaker 3: and that was I was. 901 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 2: The Real World road Rules Challenge. 902 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 3: But I remember the original cast. 903 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 2: But I I was like, well, I guess I probably would. 904 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,920 Speaker 2: And she goes, would you rather do OC or Beverly 905 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 2: Hills because you have a house with places? And I said, 906 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 2: what do you recommend? And she said Beverly Hills is essentially, 907 00:45:53,960 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 2: for lack of a better words, class here I cannot. 908 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:06,240 Speaker 2: That is brilliant. That was how my first self cleaning started. 909 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 2: Well and here you yep, But either way, so I 910 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,439 Speaker 2: wasn't really brought in and then and that's how it goes. 911 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 2: But it is what it is. You know, it's hard 912 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 2: to find housewives. 913 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,760 Speaker 3: There are a lot of people that think they are housewives. 914 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you there are a lot of people. 915 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 3: Do you ever get this? You know, they asked me 916 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 3: to do the show, but I just didn't. 917 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 2: Everybody says that everyone. 918 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 3: So what I did was I picked up the phone 919 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,759 Speaker 3: a couple of times. I was like, I called math too. Oh, 920 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 3: I thought you were going to tell the person that 921 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,760 Speaker 3: we called. No, don't give that person. Don't out that person. 922 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 3: I called, and I was like, Hey, this person is 923 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 3: saying that you offered them the spot but that they refused. 924 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,359 Speaker 3: They're like, absolutely not no. 925 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 2: And also this is just like another little like behind 926 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,120 Speaker 2: the scenes thing that won't get us ot in trouble 927 00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 2: towards the end of every season. I don't know if 928 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 2: you remember this, but remember this season that Camille like 929 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 2: lost her ship at the agency event and they had 930 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,279 Speaker 2: us all walk over to that other girl. She was 931 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,319 Speaker 2: like a brunette, and we all started talking to her 932 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 2: for a second. I have no memory. Was that there 933 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 2: you were what the. 934 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 3: City were we in? 935 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 2: We were in Los Angeles, but they had like a 936 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,839 Speaker 2: really beautiful brunette there, and they had us all walk 937 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 2: over and have little conversations with her. And I was like, 938 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,840 Speaker 2: this is so weird. Why are we talking to this girl? 939 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,759 Speaker 2: And then I asked the unnamed person, I'm like why 940 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,920 Speaker 2: what are we doing? And they were like, we're thinking 941 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:32,800 Speaker 2: of her for next. 942 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 3: Year, so they were testing her. 943 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, she didn't make it, but you do. A few 944 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,800 Speaker 2: do and then not many of us make it nine years. 945 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 2: But this is the point. 946 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's something to be proud. 947 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:45,359 Speaker 2: No I am. 948 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 3: I'm just kidding nine years, no soul whatever, I am 949 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:52,560 Speaker 3: every years. 950 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,279 Speaker 2: But then Heather brings up the real estate comments and 951 00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 2: Gina says. 952 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 3: Is Gina like balling like Mauricio? No, then don't worry 953 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 3: about it. Do you think Heather's going to give Gina 954 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:05,240 Speaker 3: her listing? 955 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 2: No, she's going to give it to the same She's 956 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 2: gonna want to be on selling Sunset or buying Beverly 957 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 2: Hills or whatever that other show. I know she doesn't 958 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:16,880 Speaker 2: work for any of those companies. 959 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,319 Speaker 3: Well, I also think, isn't she new in her She's 960 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:26,400 Speaker 3: starting her career out right right, and also too just. 961 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 2: Starting it out at like a higher platform than most 962 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:34,480 Speaker 2: really well, I mean most new real estate agents aren't 963 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,239 Speaker 2: already on television show. 964 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 3: You want to know something funny, these real estate agents 965 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:40,719 Speaker 3: be trying to hit me up. I'm like, bo, have 966 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 3: you looked at me? 967 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 2: Have you googled me lately, like, do you want to 968 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 2: try what score? Yeah? 969 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,280 Speaker 3: No, my credit score is good. I pay my bills, 970 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:52,360 Speaker 3: but like by what? By what lunch? 971 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 2: Like? 972 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,960 Speaker 3: The fuck is wrong with you? So stop emailing me please. 973 00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 3: I don't even know how you got my email. 974 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,839 Speaker 2: Also, I need a new fucking email because it could 975 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,120 Speaker 2: give me rage. The amount of spam emails that I get. 976 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,279 Speaker 3: Every thousand and open messages, it makes me feel ill. 977 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,840 Speaker 3: Makes me feel ill too. I wonder if there's like 978 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,200 Speaker 3: a program that can go in and delete certain ones, 979 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 3: basically the political ones, and stop asking me for money. 980 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 3: I don't have any for you and your political campaign. 981 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 2: Also to my kids school, I only need one email 982 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,440 Speaker 2: a week telling me what I need to do. I 983 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,440 Speaker 2: do not at fifteen really is upsetting to me. Do 984 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,760 Speaker 2: you have to do? No? It could be fucking anything. 985 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,400 Speaker 2: It's neon day Thursday, it's blah blah blah. Put it 986 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,319 Speaker 2: all in one fucking email. Oh I didn't even know that. 987 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 2: Oh no, they spread it out my kids there, They 988 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,759 Speaker 2: spread it out throughout the week. So you can get 989 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,120 Speaker 2: multiple emails that you don't check. So you look like 990 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,759 Speaker 2: an asshole all the time by not showing up but 991 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,440 Speaker 2: then kids are expensive. Oh they're really. It's expensive to 992 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:52,759 Speaker 2: be me. 993 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 3: It much more expensive to be you than me, honey, 994 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 3: let me tell you. Wow, I just thought of that 995 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,440 Speaker 3: someone we talked about last week, like what private school 996 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,360 Speaker 3: costs here in LA and you've got three. 997 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a real freaking problem. And then you have 998 00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 2: to work, and then you have to place your kids 999 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 2: to make sure that you can work, So then really 1000 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 2: you're you're paying to work. But then Tamra says Gina 1001 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,880 Speaker 2: is being so defensive that she looks guilty, and Gina 1002 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,479 Speaker 2: says she's being passionate. Heather believes Gina. At this point, 1003 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,759 Speaker 2: we hear Emily being like, Gina's just going through the 1004 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 2: thick of things. 1005 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,440 Speaker 3: I do want to say something to Gina. Look, I 1006 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 3: understand being passionate because when you are accused of things 1007 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,759 Speaker 3: you didn't do, and I'm gonna go out on a 1008 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:44,960 Speaker 3: limb with you and say that you didn't do it, rage. 1009 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean somebody I didn't even know I was. 1010 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,920 Speaker 2: But they might keep going. But I don't think Katie 1011 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,360 Speaker 2: is making shit up as much as I think she's 1012 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,360 Speaker 2: taking Gina's words out of context. 1013 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:59,120 Speaker 3: I agree, I agree that's what we were talking about earlier, 1014 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,279 Speaker 3: and I, yeah, like. 1015 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,040 Speaker 2: It's it's not necessarily that I think either one of 1016 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:05,440 Speaker 2: them as being a liar. 1017 00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,840 Speaker 3: No, I think that it is out of context and 1018 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 3: possibly bent to someone's favor. 1019 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then Gina gets emotional and says the whole 1020 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,680 Speaker 2: world fucked up. Gina tells them she's afraid Travis won't 1021 00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:22,520 Speaker 2: be able to stay in their relationship, and then immediately 1022 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,280 Speaker 2: Katie asked to bury all of it, and they stop 1023 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:29,239 Speaker 2: fighting and hug that. I'm sorry, No, no, no, that 1024 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,960 Speaker 2: doesn't fucking exist, not to me. I we at least 1025 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 2: hold on for two to three episodes. 1026 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 3: Were talking around two to three episodes two three years. No, 1027 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,759 Speaker 3: I don't agree with that. I will tell you this. 1028 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,799 Speaker 3: I don't agree in the whole. I'm sorry, and that 1029 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 3: makes us okay. No, that's not the way real life works, 1030 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:49,799 Speaker 3: and that's not the way I'm going to be on 1031 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 3: a show. If you're asking me to be authentic. If 1032 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,080 Speaker 3: we really have a problem, we really have a problem, 1033 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,520 Speaker 3: and if we both agree to really bury it, then 1034 00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 3: we really bury it. 1035 00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,240 Speaker 2: But also at that point, if Katie really thinks that's 1036 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,799 Speaker 2: how Gina is, I would have appreciated Katie going, you 1037 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 2: know what, Gina, I think you're opportunistic. Yep, I think 1038 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,560 Speaker 2: you'll do anything for money. Like I needed her to 1039 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,319 Speaker 2: come forward and really called Gina out on. 1040 00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:16,560 Speaker 3: What's so your style? So it's also you have experience 1041 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,680 Speaker 3: in this area. Katie is new and she's going to 1042 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,040 Speaker 3: grow a set of balls real fast next year, not 1043 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 3: this year. But that's something that you with experienced. 1044 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,439 Speaker 2: Is speaking about. Right, Okay, that makes sense. 1045 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:30,400 Speaker 3: Do you know what I'm saying? Like you have a 1046 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:31,920 Speaker 3: little bit of an edge, Well not a little bit, 1047 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:32,759 Speaker 3: you have a lot of edge on. 1048 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,880 Speaker 2: Her, but do you think so? Then we got into 1049 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,000 Speaker 2: scenes for next week, we start to see shit really 1050 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,960 Speaker 2: hit the fan. It seems like there's more stuff with 1051 00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:47,200 Speaker 2: Emily and what happened at the fashion show. It seems like, 1052 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 2: where do you think that goes? 1053 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 3: Do you think? 1054 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:49,239 Speaker 2: Who do you think that? 1055 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,399 Speaker 3: I guess what I'm asking is in that preview? Where 1056 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,759 Speaker 3: do you think Emily's hurt is coming from? It is 1057 00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:57,759 Speaker 3: where my guess is. 1058 00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 2: It's my guess is that whatever relationship that she and 1059 00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,520 Speaker 2: I truly have no idea. Emily and I do a 1060 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:08,000 Speaker 2: podcast together and we've never once talked about Orange County. 1061 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,560 Speaker 2: We really don't like she She's it's not even something 1062 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,800 Speaker 2: like we're kind of it's you ever. 1063 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,480 Speaker 3: Talked about your similar struggles. 1064 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 2: No, we actually haven't. Like it's not like us or 1065 00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,720 Speaker 2: even like me and Tare or like me and Tarama 1066 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,560 Speaker 2: where we kind of dig deep, like we're just we 1067 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,800 Speaker 2: come and we shoot the ship and we talk about 1068 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,920 Speaker 2: it's like watercolor talk. But we we haven't really gotten 1069 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:36,160 Speaker 2: deep about that. But I do think that I think 1070 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,399 Speaker 2: it bothers her and my guess it's Heather. I think 1071 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:43,480 Speaker 2: that she feels like she's being judged by Heather because 1072 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:47,240 Speaker 2: of the comment oversized I think. I think in general, 1073 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:54,400 Speaker 2: I think that other than Heather, Emily is probably the 1074 00:53:54,480 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 2: most financially sound and so there that I don't have 1075 00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,840 Speaker 2: that when it comes to finances. I have it with 1076 00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:04,399 Speaker 2: other shit. 1077 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,080 Speaker 3: I want everybody to have as much as they can, 1078 00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,960 Speaker 3: because I feel like, yeah, when I'm around and abundance, 1079 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:11,959 Speaker 3: I love it more. 1080 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,720 Speaker 2: But I think she sees her best friend. I guess 1081 00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:19,279 Speaker 2: it would be like you and Renna, I guess, and 1082 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 2: then you add me into it, and then all of 1083 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,799 Speaker 2: a sudden, you start choosing me because I have more 1084 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,320 Speaker 2: money than Rena, which this is not as never happened 1085 00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,759 Speaker 2: in our group, which it's never happened because none of 1086 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:33,000 Speaker 2: us care. Because but I think that's what she feels 1087 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:34,920 Speaker 2: like Gina is doing, is my guess. 1088 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,759 Speaker 3: I know it's quite obvious that's what they think. I mean, 1089 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,560 Speaker 3: Gina the whole I want, you know, to be nice 1090 00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,040 Speaker 3: to Heather because she can help me with my real 1091 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,680 Speaker 3: estate business, which is true. I mean, but you're going 1092 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:49,520 Speaker 3: to get referrals on your own. And honestly, I would 1093 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,640 Speaker 3: mix business with that show. That's a pure recipe for disaster. 1094 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:55,239 Speaker 2: Never don't do it. 1095 00:54:55,320 --> 00:55:01,480 Speaker 3: Don't don't let everyone have their separate businesses, support, buy 1096 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 3: things if you want. But that kind of shit is 1097 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:04,879 Speaker 3: a recipe. 1098 00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 2: No post shit. But you don't mix business relationships with 1099 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:12,120 Speaker 2: the show. 1100 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,760 Speaker 3: A reality TV show that's just like fraught with danger. 1101 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,799 Speaker 2: No, it's beyond. It's never gonna end up good, never 1102 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,720 Speaker 2: gonna end up good. But I'm excited for next week, 1103 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,600 Speaker 2: and I appreciate you guys for tuning in. I do too. 1104 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:24,920 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me again. 1105 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,240 Speaker 2: We want to have you always because you're amazing. 1106 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:29,799 Speaker 3: Well I have fun here. Thank you,