1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Greetings, Hello everyone, and welcome to the program that gets 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: you in touch with your Houston Texans from inside the 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: building that would be NRG Stadium, and that would be 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: here in the Hyunday Texans Radio studio. Mark Vandermayer and 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: John Harris with you. It's Texans All Access and it's 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: great to have you with us tonight, and we wish 7 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: it was a happier night. The Rockets, of course, losing 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: games seven out of the Western Conference Finals last night, Johnny, 9 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: how are you doing doing pretty well? Other than obvious 10 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: the obvious, as you just said, Mark, the Rockets losing 11 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: Golden State. There's so many different ways you can take this. 12 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: It was a seven game series against a team that 13 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: is just the team's been together now was this second 14 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: season they've all been together, and you can tell they 15 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: knew where everybody's supposed to be in the floor. They 16 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: took Houston's best punch and punches throughout this series, and 17 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: then they won the two games that obviously mattered in 18 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: six and seven. They won twice in the Rockets home court, 19 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: and that Chris Paul being out was there are a 20 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: lot of differences. You know, they didn' shoot the ball 21 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: well obviously. I found it interesting that both home teams 22 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: in Game sevens, Boston and Houston shot horribly from three 23 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: point right. Yeah, it's amazing to have two road teams 24 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,839 Speaker 1: win the game sevens. And it was the first time 25 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: since whenever that you had two game sevens on the 26 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: road in the conference finals, or two game sevens at 27 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: all in the conference finals. But that's what you had. 28 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: And you have the Cleveland Cavaliers against the Golden State Warriors. Again, 29 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: I mean, this is Celtics Lakers kind of stuff. Really, 30 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: even more. They never went to four consecutive in the eighties, 31 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: that is, And so now you have this and we'll 32 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 1: see how it all plays out. But I know that 33 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: Rockets fans aren't really concerned with this right now. Do 34 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: you give the Cavaliers a shot of winning Yes, series, Absolutely, 35 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: I do. I don't. I mean absolutely, I think there's 36 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: always a shot. I think the way Golden State played, 37 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: you know, they were so ripe to go down. Yeah, 38 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: you know, that's what's We've done a lot of our 39 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: football comparisons, and it kind of reminded us a little 40 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: bit last week of the way the Patriots were in 41 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: the playoffs of the twenty sixteen season, when I thought 42 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: they were ripe to go down that night if the 43 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: Texans had some offense, you know, and I think that 44 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: the Warriors were ripe to go down last night if 45 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: the Rockets had some offense or more of it in 46 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: the third quarter. I mean, you can't miss all those threes, 47 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: that's needless to say. You make three of those misses 48 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: and it's a much tighter game, and maybe people tighten 49 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: up in the process, and that's the thing. You know, 50 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: maybe the pressure gets to the Warriors a little bit 51 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: and it didn't do it. It's fascinating to observe, analyze, 52 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: think about what might have been. But that's what you have. 53 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: The Rockets are done. Congratulations on an outstanding season. Otherwise, 54 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: I think that obviously, if you have the best record 55 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: in the entire league, you hope to get to the 56 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: finals and win the whole thing. But you know you're 57 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: facing a juggernaut team that wasn't overly concerned with having 58 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: the best record. They had all those injuries and they 59 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: got their act together just in time. But I think 60 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: it's not over and I'll be watching. Yeah, there's no 61 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: question I think with Lebron in this I've found it fascinating. 62 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: Somebody tweeted this out and then somebody adjusted it their 63 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: center the second tweet. But since nineteen ninety nine, that 64 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: was the first year after Jordan there were it was Duncan, 65 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: Kobe Lebron, So that right, Duncan, Kobe Lebron in one 66 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 1: of those three in every finals from nineteen ninety nine 67 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: through twenty seventeen and now twenty eighteen except for two 68 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: thousand and six, which was the heat in the Mavericks. 69 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: If you added Shock to that list, you would have covered. 70 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: That's four people that would have covered every year. But 71 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: since nineteen ninety one, six players have been At least 72 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: one of these six has been in the finals. Magic, Jordan, 73 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: a team, Kobe, Lebron and Duncan. One of those six 74 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: has been in as pretty amazing since nineteen ninety one, 75 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: almost almost thirty years. It reminds me of AFC quarterbacks 76 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. I thought the same thing, Roethlisberger, Manning, 77 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: Brady other than Flacco in the twenty twelve season, but 78 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: all the other Super Bowls in the AFC representation side 79 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: of things contain Brady, Roethlisberger or Manning. Manning and Manning 80 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: with the Colts manning with the Broncos. So there you 81 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: have it. It's pretty fun to talk about stuff like that. 82 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: And you know, at the NBA and then the NFL too, 83 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: you know, we talk about what's the legacy of a player, 84 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: you have to win a championship, how many rings do 85 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: you have? And we do it the quarterbacks too. Dan 86 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: Marino has zero rings. He went to one Super Bowl, 87 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: but he should be regarded as one of the greatest 88 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: quarterbacks to ever play. I think he's a top ten 89 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: guy for sure, in my opinion. Anyway, And with these 90 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: basketball players, you know, there are plenty of great players 91 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: Kr Malone who don't have rings, Charles Barkley, and the 92 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: list goes on and on and on. So I don't 93 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 1: know what the best way is. I think rings do 94 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: figure into the equation. But the other thing is you 95 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: have to take into account who they had around them, 96 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: what the circumstances were. There are many ways to evaluate 97 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: these players. These are team sports because it's not tennis. Okay, 98 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: in tennis, you could say he never won on clay, 99 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: or he never did this or never did that, and 100 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: it's fair to say. You know, even in golf, it's 101 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: kind of fair to say, but sometimes the competition does 102 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: affect your legacy as well. But in team sports, man, 103 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: I think we get all hyped up on rings. You know, 104 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: James Harden doesn't have a ring yet yet, He's twenty 105 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: eight years old. Think about what the narrative was on 106 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: durk Nevitski after that Oh six finals that you talked 107 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,559 Speaker 1: about and then, but how the narrative changed in twenty 108 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: eleven when he took down the mighty Miami Heat at 109 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: the time, and I was really pulling for the Mavericks 110 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: at the time because I did not want to see 111 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: the Heat win and that was painful to pull for 112 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: a Dataspace team. Yeah it was. Yeah, I did not 113 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: want that Heat team to win. There was something about 114 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: that Mavericks team. God help me for saying this, but 115 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: with Jason Terry and Jason Kidd and Nevitsky, I sort 116 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: of liked the makeup of that team for whatever reason. 117 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: And I mean again, I was not big on cheering 118 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: for a Dawns team. I just did not want that 119 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,239 Speaker 1: Miami team to win. I did not want the Big 120 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: three concept to become in vogue. I didn't. I just 121 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: didn't want that to happen though, it is right, But 122 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: you to your point, and I think of some of 123 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: the greats of all time, I mean, I think the 124 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: first one that pops to mind is Jordan. Well, Jordan 125 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: doesn't win a bunch of championships of Scottie Pippen, another 126 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: top fifty player of all time, is not playing right 127 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: there next to him for all those years. So Jordan 128 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: had Pippen, and that was really before you kind of 129 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: had teams that had two sort of mega stars. Now 130 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: Jordan obviously was Jordan, but Pippin was as good as 131 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: he and there were twenty eight teams the league at 132 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: that time. Twenty seven would love to have had Pippin. 133 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: He would have been a star for them, absolutely for 134 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: other teams. So I always think it's different if it's 135 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 1: a homegrown guy like Pippen was, you know, Central Archidas, 136 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: as opposed to somebody who joins in because they want 137 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: to win a ring, right like the heat obviously with 138 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: Lebron and Bosh, what about the balls with the second 139 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: three when you have Dennis Rodman, it's a little bit different. 140 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: But he was such an amazing player and he was 141 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: a key piece of that. You know, then of course 142 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: they had Tony Kup coach. There was a it was 143 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: a differently constructed team. But you know, a guy like 144 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: Rodman to me, is just like they had with Horace Grant. 145 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: But of course horse Grant was drafted and developed by 146 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: the Bulls and then ended up going on to Orlando Magic. 147 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: But I still think, what's the core of the team. 148 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: To me, the core of the team ended up being 149 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: Jordan and Pippin. Now, look along the way you're gonna 150 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: have to make I think you're gonna have to make 151 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: a shrewd move for the Bulls on those teams going 152 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: out and getting Rodman, going out and getting Tony Coop coach. 153 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: Those were shrewd moves to bring in to see how 154 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: they were gonna mesh with Jordan and Pippen, etc. But 155 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe it maybe it takes that for 156 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: the Rockets. Maybe there's a shrewd move that Daryl Morey 157 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: can make. At this point, I felt like watching that 158 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: team the other night. My favorite player on the floor 159 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: is PJ Tucker. PJ Tucker everything that I want in 160 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: an athlete. Tough, hard nose to do little things, never 161 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: gave up, did things he wasn't even supposed to do. 162 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: He ripped Stephen Curry when they were when they when 163 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: he someone got it's not Curry. One time he poked 164 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: the ball away from just literally stole it from him, 165 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: like what. PJ. Tucker is a dude. And I was 166 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: listening to Bill Simmons podcast. He had JJ Reddick on 167 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: and they talked for about ninety minutes and it was fascinating. 168 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: Reddick was nearly sign seal and delivered to come to 169 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: the Rockets, but at the very end there was some 170 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: contract things. Apparently Reddick wonted four years and they could 171 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: only give him three, and he said, no, I'm gonna 172 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: go to the six Ers at that point, and that 173 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: allowed the Rockets to then go after PJ. Tucker right 174 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: that I think ended up being best for all parties involved. 175 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: It worked out for Reddick in Philly, and it worked 176 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: out for Tucker here. But I loved watching PJ. Tucker. 177 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: That was a shrewd move, giving Ryan Anderson a bunch 178 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: of money as not as shrewd to move, but adding 179 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: Tucker finding Jerald Green in the trash sheep to give 180 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: him some minutes at certain points was huge. And then 181 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: of course making a play for Chris Paul and how 182 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: much he was missed. Well, he's your quarterback. Yeah, there's 183 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: no doubt you're playing without your quarterback. Basketball is different. 184 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: I get it and hard and can certainly run the 185 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: points so well with all the assists and everything. But 186 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: it was not a good night for him, was not 187 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: a good night for the team. They were gassed and 188 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: they were playing one of the all time great teams. 189 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: So that's what it is. And look, I think the 190 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: Warriors were ripe to go down, but the Rockets just 191 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: didn't have enough to get it done. And you can't 192 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: miss all those threes. This just breaking news. You cannot 193 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: miss all those threes. Best of luck to them regrouping 194 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: in the offseason, and you know they will, you know 195 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: they'll find some solutions. And you know, as you're talking 196 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: about shrewd moves, you know, I can't wait to have 197 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: the conversations in February next year about all right, did 198 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: the Tyran Matthew shrewd move work out? You know how? 199 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: And that's a move for him, you know, one year 200 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: deal where he wants to prove that he can sustain 201 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: his level of play, stay healthy and get a longer 202 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: term contract and help a team win and for the Texans, 203 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: can you get all you want out of him at 204 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: the safety spot? And then you think about some of 205 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: the other additions they made, which are not exactly high 206 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: profile marquee busting additions and free agency, but some that 207 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: can really help you, you know, PJ. Tucker type signings 208 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: that can really help you. Boy, we've on these recent shows, 209 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: we've done a lot of football basketball comparisons, a lot 210 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: of analogies we do. But you know, this is what 211 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: we do. It It's it's May and it's gonna be 212 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: June soon. This is what we talk about in the offseason. 213 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: I'm excited though. I'll tell you what. The vander kid 214 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: was freaking out last night about the officiating, about things 215 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: not going well, about the three points, the three pointers 216 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: missed constantly, all of that stuff. And then I said, listen, 217 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: I've got two words to say to either a gonna 218 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: make you feel better, and smoothed this whole thing out. DaShan, 219 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: I thought you could say free ice cream. I guess 220 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: I three words, but you know that's pretty good. Which 221 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: last night, by the way, and I played this last 222 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: night on the show. They the NFL network had been 223 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: they promo the show each week, and it's funny. I'll 224 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: be kind of just doing things and I'll have NFL 225 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: Network around the house, and they have been promoing this 226 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: Top one hundred and then all of a sudden, I'll 227 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: hear your voice. I'll kind of snap you, like where, wait, 228 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: what why am I hearing? Mark Like, oh no, that's right. 229 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: There's run of this promo. And there was about a 230 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: minute promo that they ran and I ran this last 231 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: night and it's three Seahawks talking about Watson. It's Michael 232 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: Bennett and it was Russell Wilson and it was Earl 233 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: Thomas and they were talking about Watson because Watson made 234 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: the Top one hundred. He made they finally revealed him 235 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: he was at number fifty, which they they showed they've 236 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: been doing this list since two twenty eleven. Five rookie 237 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: quarterbacks have made the list. Cam Luck, RG three, Dak 238 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: and yeah, Watson, it was watching the fifth. I don't know. 239 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 1: I think Watson was a fifth, Wentz No, uh, I no, 240 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: I think Watson was the fifth. Those are the four 241 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 1: Watson end up at fifty. All those guys were forty 242 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: year better. But then I got to thinking played a 243 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: full season exactly. They all played a full season. RG 244 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: three was number fifteen, Andrew luck was number twenty three 245 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: in the same year. But they did. They played an 246 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: entire season. This guy played six and a half games. 247 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: Six and a half games. It's it's it's unbelievable. And 248 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: they they talked to the Seahawks players. Then they also 249 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: had a little bite from Kevin Bayard. And the one 250 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: thing that Kevin Byard said, which I thought was very interesting, 251 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: Mark they said he said that the nation's concentration was 252 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: on him, essentially saying that everybody was watching him, that 253 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: they were concentrating everybody throughout the country wanted to see 254 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: what this guy was doing. And I've thought it was 255 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: fascinating because we've with JJ Watt, with DeAndre Hopkins, which 256 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: Devi and Klind. There have been players that that people 257 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: want to see, but I don't think to the extent 258 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: of what Deshaan was doing last year and people wanted 259 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: to see and there was it was kind of fascinating 260 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 1: that buyards like, yeah, he kind of he kind of gunsling, 261 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: did it? Kind of guns he was kind of a 262 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: gunslinger against us. He hit us up for a few 263 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: I was like, hit you up for a few. Hitch 264 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: you up for five Kevin Bayard, so get used to that. 265 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: The one time that they ended up facing, he kind 266 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 1: of smiled and chuckled, like cooled up boys gonna be 267 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: tough to stop, which is true, and I hope he 268 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: ends up being tough to stop. But they showed I 269 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: just love it. I love NFL Top one hundred because 270 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: they mix in your calls. And then Andre was on 271 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: there a little bit, and then they had all the 272 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: different players talking about him and it was it was. 273 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: It was fascinating. But he made it in at number fifty. 274 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: But no other Texans have been revealed, so that means 275 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 1: that Jadevion, DeAndre, I think Tyrone's gonna make it, but um, 276 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: I think he is. I've said that I'll play the 277 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: full season. I think he should make it, but that's 278 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 1: that's just me. But at a minimum, Jadevion and jd Or, 279 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: Jadevion and DeAndre are gonna be in the top forty salty. 280 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: I think DeAndre his best year was twenty. After twenty 281 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: fifteen he made he made it to nineteen. Jadeveon last 282 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: year I think was forty nine, so he's definitely inside 283 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: of that. If he's not on if Jadevion is not 284 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: on a list, there's then I won't watch this list ever. Again, 285 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: there's no, he's definitely he's gotta beon this. Robert Griffin 286 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: the third, by the way, his name comes up a lot. 287 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: Ryan people are describing possible worst case scenario areos for 288 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 1: Deshawn's career because RG three had a sensational i'll put 289 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: that in air quotes rookie year, and look, they had 290 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: a tremendous comeback because they were down and out losing record. 291 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: I think they were three and six or three and seven, 292 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: and they came back to finish nine and seven, win 293 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: the division, and make the playoffs. And that's when it 294 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: all came apart where he got hurt in the playoff 295 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: game and was he was never the same. How many 296 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: touchdown passes did RG three throw in his rookie season 297 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: twenty three twenty that's it, twenty through twenty and whole 298 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: season in fifteen games shout through nineteen seven Yeah, six 299 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: a half. I'm not saying that, oh, like, I hate 300 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: to compare it this way, but I'm just pointing some 301 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: things out here that we're looking at something A little 302 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: bit different than RG three, and I really like RG three, 303 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: and I feel sad the way it's working out for him, 304 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: the way it has worked out, I really expected more 305 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: and I was hoping for better for him because I 306 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: was a huge fan coming out of college with RG three. 307 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: All Right, So RG three high completion percent in that 308 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: Shanahan offense at sixty five percent, which is a different 309 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: kind of deal, right, and Watson sixty one percent. Okay, 310 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: but the twenty touchdown passes that really sticks out to 311 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: me versus the nineteen for Watson. Now, RG three running 312 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: the ball, he had seven rushing touchdowns that year. I 313 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: mean he was moving eight hundred and fifteen yards. He 314 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: ran it a lot. He ran it a lot more 315 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: than Watson. Now. I know we're dealing with fifteen games 316 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: versus six and a half. But Watson, I think if 317 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: you ask the Sean, he'll say, I don't want to 318 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: run it that much. I don't want to be a runner. 319 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: You know, I'll run on occasion, and I know the 320 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: threat is there, the zone, read all of it, but 321 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to be a runner. I think that 322 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: he's got to become a pocket passer, and I think 323 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: he kind of is, but he's got to have the 324 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: threat and I hate to say pocket, because the pocket 325 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: with him is such an amiba he can get outside 326 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: by extra time. We've talked about all of that, but 327 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: I think he doesn't want to pigeonhole himself in any way. 328 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: He just wants to be a quarterback, but he wants 329 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: to stay behind the line of scrimmage more often than not. 330 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: Of course, Yeah, there's no doubt one. The one the 331 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: highlight that they showed, they showed it from field level, 332 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: but I remember seeing it during the game. The Seahawks 333 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: were in man coverage and so everybody took off. And 334 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: I think this shows the intelligence and the Sean. When 335 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: he dropped the throw and he got a little bit 336 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: of heat up the field, he noticed that there was 337 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: nobody in front of him, and he knew that they 338 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: were all man coverage, so he just took off. RG 339 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: three would take off. And if you remember how he 340 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: got hurt in the first place, was he ran he dove, yeah, 341 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: and Helodi Nada hit him in the legs and that 342 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: that started his knee on the downward spiral and then 343 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: he ended up tearing it all the way against Seattle 344 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: in the plays. Fitzpatrick got hurt in twenty fourteen here, 345 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: but what does the Shawn Watson do instead? Even in 346 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: that game, there were at least three runs I can 347 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: think of where he had wide open space, but before 348 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: anybody could breathe on him, he slid and got down. Slid, 349 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: take a knee, do whatever you have to do. Get 350 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: out of bounds, all right. Johnny stays with us a 351 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: little bit more on this stuff, more on last night's 352 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: active But he's Sammy Coates is going to join us. 353 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: It's all happening on Texans Radio. Mark Vandermayer, John Harris 354 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: with you in the Hunday Texans Radio studio bringing you 355 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: Texans All Access and it's great to have you aboard 356 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: for the night. We talked about a bunch of stuff 357 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: in the first segment, including but not limited to the 358 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 1: Rockets last night, of course, Deshaun Watson. Although we did 359 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: not mention Watson being at the game, Johnny and the 360 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: guys from T and T, some of the other celebs 361 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: who were there wanting to take photos with Watson. I 362 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 1: really love observing how people love him. You know, they 363 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: love our guy. They think the world of him. He's 364 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: such a star. Already coming in to last year's season, 365 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: never mind what he's been able to do in a 366 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: short amount of time in the NFL. And I know 367 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien listening to this right now would be like, Bandy, 368 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: shut up, stop talking about him. Just he would love 369 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: to just hide him again if he possibly could. You 370 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: can't do it. You know, the horses out of the barn, 371 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: so there's there's no question. But if there's if there's 372 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: somebody that's going to handle it and handle it well, 373 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be DeShawn. And even at times 374 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: when he feels like maybe he's not handling it well, 375 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: he's probably gonna be outwardly handling it well. Just inside 376 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: he's like, oh man, I could have handled that a 377 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 1: little bit better, you know, just because as he says, 378 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: he wants to get one percent better every day. But 379 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: I think that therein lies the difference. And we talked 380 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: last segment about RG three and Deshaun Watson, and I 381 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: got asked this question. I was on with the guys 382 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville talking to them and they said they were like, okay, 383 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: because I talked glowingly of Deshaun as as they had 384 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: as well. But what if he follows the RG three path. 385 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: And I said, look, that's that's reasonable to ask. Yeah, 386 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: there's been some rookies that have had great rookie years. 387 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: They've had tremendous first years and then never get better 388 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: after that and then just fall full cliff at some point. 389 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: And I said, here's why. I think, here's why those 390 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: two are different and why I think DeShawn is gonna 391 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: end up being better long run number one. I always 392 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 1: felt like RG three was a thrower, but Deshawn's a passer. 393 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: I think Deshaun is much more polished as a passer 394 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: that RG three was. RG three had a strong arm, laser, 395 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: but the throws that he was asked to make with 396 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: Washington are much different than the throws that Deshawn's being 397 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: asked to make. Look at the offensive systems right away, absolutely, 398 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: and then I think that obviously Deshawn's had some success 399 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: at a higher level than RG three did. But we'll 400 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: go beyond that. But I think the last thing is 401 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: that RG three's troubles I think in Washington stem from 402 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: the fact that in the locker room he was not 403 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: as respected as as as DeShawn is. When DeShawn walks 404 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: in the locker room. He doesn't need to tell you 405 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: that he's there. Everyone feels that he's there. When we 406 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: would have open locker room and we'd be in the 407 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: locker room DeShawn walking, everybody'd be like, hey, there's there's DeShawn. Hey. 408 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: It was just this kind of aura that he brings. 409 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: But it's not one of being bigger than the team, 410 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: bigger than any other player. It's just I'm a piece 411 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: of the machine. And I think RG three in and 412 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 1: Shanahan had had a rocky relationship because RG three had 413 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: a different belief in himself. So you in a locker room, then, 414 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: I think, and I think the players didn't respect RGIE 415 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: three in Washington the way that the players here respect 416 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: the Sean. So when your mom has a radio show 417 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: in the market in which you play, is that good? 418 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: Is that a bad? Things? Think? Bill O'Brien wouldn't like that. 419 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 1: It's not the RG three moms show. No, no, no, listen. 420 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: De Sean's mom is wonderful and and RG three's mom 421 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: was was nice too, But yeah, have a radio show. Yeah, 422 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: you gotta be terrible with that kind of stuff. Although 423 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 1: if if you know, if I was playing professional football 424 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: and my mom wanted a show. I would just hope 425 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: that she wouldn't talk about me much, you know what 426 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: I mean, talk about what you want to talk about, Mom, 427 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: I would shut that down. By the way, my mom, 428 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: who died a long time ago, was a talk radio junkie. 429 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: She would absolutely love this stuff. Even though she wasn't 430 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: a big sports fan. She would. I used to go 431 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: into her room and she'd have the radio on all 432 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: the time, talk shows in New York, talk show talk, 433 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: her car always talk shows. She would love this stuff. 434 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 1: Mom will listen to the radio and then say to me, well, 435 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 1: they were seeing the other Damn the radio that Deshaun 436 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,959 Speaker 1: played really really well. I was like, Mom, that was me. 437 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: That was me. You shall quote you to quote me 438 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: and then tell me. But yeah, RG three's mom did 439 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,479 Speaker 1: have a talk show in the Washington, DC area, and 440 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: that was probably another thing that was a little bit 441 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: of a problem. Here's another thing. And again I like 442 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: RG three, But Watson is so likable. Yeah, he's just 443 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: got that naturally. And kids, listen, when you're applying for jobs, 444 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: when you want to be a professional, you have to 445 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: find a way. Hopefully you are naturally likable. You have 446 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: to find a way to be likable. It's so important 447 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: in your career to be likable. You walk through the door, 448 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: they sense your energy, they see a ray of sunshine. 449 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: You don't have dark clouds hovering over your head because 450 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: some people just somehow do you gotta try to get 451 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: rid of that. You gotta try to correct that. It's 452 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 1: sometimes easier said than done. But Watson so likable, I 453 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: think even with the opponents, like they all want to 454 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: beat him, but they respect him so much. It was 455 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: fascinating to watch players just migrate to him after a game. 456 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: There would be two three guys that just wanted to 457 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: shake his hand and be around him, be around him, 458 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: or you know, guys that had played against him, and 459 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: you know Jalen Ramsey, I think is a is a 460 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: great example of that. I watched Jayalen on the field, 461 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 1: and Jalen is the baddest dude on the block. He 462 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: and DeAndre go after. It's a fun battle to watch. 463 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: But he got around to Sean. It was just it 464 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 1: was it was a different vibe and it wasn't as 465 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: if all of a sudden he became meek or meek 466 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: or anything like that. But it just it went from 467 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: being I'm the baddest dude to man to shun you boy, 468 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: you're really good. I mean it's just this different vibe 469 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: started that game and Ramsey didn't say Watson. He said 470 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 1: to Shawn. He called him by first name. Yeah, he's 471 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: played against him and when floor State played Clemson, I 472 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: mean he knows, he knows all about him. And it 473 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: was funny. His reaction to it wasn't even hey, Deshann 474 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: should have started. He's like, man, they know Deshan should 475 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: have started. Like the way that he said it too 476 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: was so he's like, I don't know what they were 477 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: doing for the first half, but the Shan should have 478 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 1: been on a field. And I mean he was very 479 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's Jalen Ramsey, which unfortunately have to 480 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: face him twice a year. But that's that's him. That's 481 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: how he said. But it just is interesting to see 482 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: the players. And then after the Seattle game, I almost 483 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: every Seahawk defender was like, nobody's ever done that dust, Yeah, 484 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: they were got to beat this dude. Crazy are now 485 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: gushing of course, and uh, you know, we can go 486 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: back to last year's camp and what led to Savage starting, 487 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: but we both agreed that Savage, you know, if you're 488 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: gonna win a job, he kind of won the job, 489 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: you know, and it obviously didn't work out for him. 490 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: In fact, Brandon Wheaton is wearing number three now, which 491 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: looks a little freaky at practice to see Whedon in 492 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: the number three jersey because Joe Webb has number five. 493 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: Weedon's old number, and Stephen Morris, the other quarterback is 494 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: number six, and we go on and on six. Yeah, boy, 495 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: oh man, you're a satisfying This is to the OCD 496 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: is happy with the receivers and the all's all can executive. 497 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: There's no breaks. It's beautiful. Does that wide receiver come 498 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: into the league now today and request a number in 499 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: the eighties, I mean, I'm sure it's happened, but but 500 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: mostly not. Tory Davis is the only one I could 501 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: think of. Corey Davis wore eighty four at Western Michigan. 502 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: He wore eighty four with the Titans. It's already been 503 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: his number. Yeah, so it started a long time, but 504 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: that's about it. Probably had it in high school nowadays. 505 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: If you're in high school, you you want a single 506 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: digit number. You want a low number, and think about it. 507 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: You want to wear Julio or you want to wear DeAndre, 508 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,959 Speaker 1: you want to wear Odell Beckham junior, you were an 509 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: eighties number. You're like, I'm not a tight end yet. 510 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: The guy, arguably it's the best in the league is 511 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, who wears eighty four. Right there, you have 512 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 1: it and wore what number in college? You were twenty 513 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: seven with twenty seven. That's an aggravating receiver number college. 514 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: You gotta be a running back with twenty seven or 515 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: a defensive back. You cannot play wide receiver with the 516 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 1: number twenty seven. All right, a guy who plays wide 517 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: receiver for this team a new addition, and he's big. 518 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: He's a large individual and we're hoping for big things 519 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: from him. That would be Sammy Coats and Johnny and 520 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: I visited with him in the Hunday Texans radio studio. 521 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: It's our first ever visit with you. So welcome to Houston. 522 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: We haven't had a chance to say that to you yet. 523 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 1: So what's it been like so far for you? Just 524 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: living here, working here, the whole bit. I just came 525 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: from Cleveland, So no snow, it's great, negative weather, It's awesome. 526 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: It's super hot down here. I love that. I'm from Alabama, 527 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: so it's perfect fit for me. I love the city. 528 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: It's huge, so much should do so much food. That 529 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: is true. We'll get fed well. Now, How tough is that, Sammy, 530 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: being in a place that's got food like this, and 531 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: then you got to stay on the sports performance training program? 532 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: How tough is that? My past about Dorito Place at 533 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: Taco Place, they're going home. I'm like, it's hard. It 534 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: is hard. What about being here with the Texans in 535 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: particular Deshaw Watson at quarterback DeAndre Hopkins here? What about 536 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: being here with this team? And what do you bring 537 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: to the squad for people that haven't seen you play? 538 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: What do you bring it to this? Um? I'm a 539 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: big guy, I'm fast. Um, I can play special teams. 540 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: I can give on offense and make plays. So I 541 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: bring on versatility to the team, be able to help 542 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 1: one special teams, give a guys breaks, whatever they need 543 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: me to do. That's where I bring this team. Very athlete. 544 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: I'm healthy now. That was big for me coming out 545 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: here was being healthy. So just being able to be 546 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 1: healthy and just show my talent again like I did 547 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 1: when I was my second year at Pittsburgh. So it's 548 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: gonna be great. You've had a lot of different quarterbacks 549 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: in your career, but now you have Deshaun Watson and 550 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: you're seeing a little slice of what he can do. 551 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: And I know you're working with him right now. So 552 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: what's that like. Um, he's a great quarterback. He's learning 553 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: the offense way better than into it there last year. Communication, 554 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: there's a whole lot better just watching him out there 555 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: and the things he can do once he comfortable, when 556 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: it's gonna be scared, He's kid. Just take over. When 557 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: you move to a different location, obviously it's new. When 558 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: you walk in the locker room, you'd like to at 559 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: least know somebody you walk in. You see a former 560 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: teammate and Auburn teammates c J. Prosh. How great was 561 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: that to see it at least have familiar face when 562 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 1: you walk in the locker room. Um, it's great. You know, 563 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: it's always good to play with guys you played with before. 564 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 1: You know, Jay Prize, we got Black Saming, we got 565 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,239 Speaker 1: chat Right. I got a lot of guys that are 566 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: playing me in Urburn. So it's kind of crazy, but 567 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: it's fun, you know, just playing with guys that played 568 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: in the same conference at me, it's it's like you 569 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: knew it on guys. What about the system, Sammy, this 570 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: offensive system versus other places you've been. Um, it's it's 571 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: a good It's a lot going on in it. It's 572 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 1: good for me, makes you. It moves you to the 573 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: spot you need to be. Put you in a position 574 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: to play your best, not just you know, put you 575 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: somewhere we know you're not good at doing that. You know, 576 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: they put me in a situation where they knew I'm 577 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: good at certain things. So it helps a lot. So 578 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: when you see somebody that is an Alabama Crimson Tide 579 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 1: fan and you introduce yourself, Sammy, coach, did they kind 580 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: of give you bad dirty looks because because of that 581 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 1: game in twenty thirteen that you guys knocked off Alabama. 582 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: You know, I get I get a lot of hate, 583 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: you know, but it's okay. And um, I actually scored 584 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: a touchdown the Tide of game before that, So yeah, yeah, 585 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: but people forgot about that. That the kicks you want 586 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: to get cheated in that because that was a great 587 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 1: touchdown and I was very hurt by that. You know 588 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: that it's different than Alabama. No, you got your Alabama 589 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: Arma fan. That's all you got there. So right, get 590 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 1: heated in that state. Have you been back much though, 591 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: to the stadium, to the all right, so it must 592 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: be nice to go back. And they ain't done so 593 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,479 Speaker 1: much stuff too hardly ever, recognize that when I go back. Really, 594 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: since you've left, they've done a lot of stuff. When 595 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: are they gonna stop? They're not gonna stop. They can't 596 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: stop now. I mean, it's all it's all about recruiting. 597 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: Oh man, I mean how do you bring it? I 598 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: mean you see it everywhere. I mean, heck, Alabama just 599 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: put a barbershop in their football facility. They they until 600 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: it is super nice. Yeah, I give that. Yeah, what 601 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: were your other options go to college? Man, I don't 602 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: have three office coming out. I have Armor, and I 603 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: had Southern Medicine. I had South Alabama. Okay, so that 604 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: was not too difficult to decision. Being in the state Alabama, 605 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: I'd imagine you're you're Crimson or you're Blue and Orange. 606 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: Were you always thinking about Auburn? Well, when I was 607 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: coming out, I was an Alabama fan. Alabama was recruiting me. 608 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: They wanted me to come to account I really didn't 609 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: want to go to the camp they went to offer. 610 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: I was like, forget it. Then I finally went to 611 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: the camp. It was to Arburn and they offered me 612 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: round the spot. So I was like, I guess I 613 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: should have went to a couple of accounts it worked out. 614 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: What was it like being obviously with you have to 615 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: sean here, but what was like being a hoddle with 616 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger. Guy has been around the league for a 617 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: long time. Gotta knows what he's doing, and he does 618 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: things a little differently. It's not five steps throw the football, 619 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,959 Speaker 1: it's sometimes five scramble move gotta you gotta move with 620 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: him and then he might find you after that. What 621 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: was it like being with Ben? You know, Ben is 622 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,719 Speaker 1: a smart guy. He knows what a defense is doing 623 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: foroul they even do it and um, that was something 624 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: I learned from and just watching how he read the 625 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: defense and he knows a safety about to rotate. Um 626 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: and that that got me a lot of my catches 627 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: When he rolled out, I'm fasting most guys while I'll run, 628 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: he throw the ball down the field. So he's he's 629 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: a great He's a Hall of Fame quarterback. Um, he 630 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: got he's so athletic to be so big. But he 631 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: was a great and it was a fun plan when 632 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,959 Speaker 1: I learned a lot from him. Your position coach now 633 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: is John Perry. So you grew up in Alabama and 634 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: now you got this thick New England accent from your coach. 635 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: What is it like adjusting to that coach? Perry is 636 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: a great coach. He knew a lot about opposition, even 637 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: though he coached Tardens before. But he knew a lot 638 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: of drills. Um, he's smart. He know the whole defense, 639 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: He know everything. He teaching us how to read everything 640 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: from left to right, right to leve um. So it's 641 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: it's good being with a guy like him that knows 642 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: offense and he can read a good deal. It seems 643 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: like some of his drills are a little bit different too, right, 644 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: a lot of contact and a lot of like catch 645 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: balls and windows and stuff. Yeah, he aught about tough 646 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: making tough plays. You know. Um, that's good. You know 647 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: that's something I need to work on a lot. Is 648 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: cousin trading. He all about concentrating and doing a little 649 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: things right. So it's having me a ton. What's the 650 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: biggest key for you? To being successful because you could 651 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: run by a lot of people. But for you, Sammy coach, 652 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: what's the biggest key to being successful as receiver in 653 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: the NFL? Um My biggest challenge was standing healthy? Was one. Um? 654 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: Just doing a little things right, you know, coming out 655 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: of college. I didn't do a lot of routes. Coming out. 656 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: I ran goals and posting college nobody can stop it. 657 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: But the biggest thing just doing a little things that 658 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: I knew I need to work on, like get out 659 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: of my cuts. Just becoming a more consistent guy. And 660 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: that's all wire receivers, any kid coming out, you got 661 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: to be consistent as league and that's something I gotta 662 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: work on. Sammy, thanks a lot for joining us. Good luck, 663 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: Thank you, Sammy Coats. Let them know, all right, we'll 664 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: talk about that and go around the league is John 665 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: Harris stays with us on Texans All Access Here in 666 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: the Hunday Texans Radio studio. It's Mark Vandermyer and John 667 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: Harris with you Tuesday evening, and that usually means, you know, 668 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: we're in our second day of the week doing radio. 669 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,959 Speaker 1: Johnny did the show last night, but it was the 670 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: Memorial Day edition, right. Brian Peters. We kind of redid 671 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: that one because it was so good, the story about 672 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: the possum in his house. Oh, I mean, it's hilarious, 673 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: all said Roland Ramirez, who is the director of Rehabilite 674 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: Rehabilitation Services and associate head trainer here for the Texans. 675 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: And I tease this, if you haven't heard the podcast, 676 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: you definitely want to hear it. But I ran into 677 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: Row at some point, I think it was in December, 678 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: after these injuries are just piled up and piled up 679 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: and piled up. And he he is, I honestly say 680 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: he's famous for this, but on hard knocks he is. 681 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: He is the man you've seen a bucket hat with 682 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: Devion Clowney pushing him and getting him to the getting 683 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: him to the end and getting him ready. That's Row. 684 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: And he's just the best. And I said, man, Row, 685 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: this has got to be the worst season. No, And 686 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: he goes Nope. Two thousand and seven Falcons. Two thousand 687 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: and seven Falcons. One to think about the two thousand 688 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: and seven Falcons. Right before the season, the quarterback went 689 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: to jail. Oh then Bobby Petrino twelve games into the year. 690 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: That was that year bolted took off. He said, they 691 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: had injuries all over the place. He said, it starts 692 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: with Vic, then Petrino's there for like twelve games, he 693 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: takes off. They've got injuries all over. But he said 694 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: that year, that two thousand and seven Falcons years is 695 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: the worst. He said, these injuries, Man, we can we 696 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: can heal these guys. This is final, he said. But 697 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: that year, when Vick goes to jail, then they've got it. 698 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: They don't have anybody to replace him, because that happened. 699 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: I believe in August they were they were throwing Joey 700 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: Harrington and guess what, Matt Shop signs with the Texans. Yep, 701 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: And he would have been the guy there because it 702 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: was the backup. Had they not traded him, he would 703 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: have been taking over from Michael Vick right then. And 704 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: he played pretty well a couple of appearances for the Falcons. 705 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: That's what got him the Texans job as a free 706 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: agent in the trade. Not a great what if? What 707 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: if Shop stays if the Texans have drafted Matt Ryan 708 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, you never know, Well, the 709 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: Texans would have had to have a backup plan. I 710 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: think the thinking was then they would have gone with 711 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: a combination of rosen Fells and somebody else and just 712 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: tried to do it the way they were trying to 713 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: do it here with Mallett and Hoyer or whatever something 714 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: like that. Maybe Gary Kubiak would have figured it out. Look, 715 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: maybe Rosenfells would have held it down. I don't know. 716 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: But that was two thousand and seven. Texans opened up 717 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: two and oh, as you remember, and they come back 718 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: here and lose to the Cults. Yes, in kind of 719 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: a weird game, Andrey Johnson missed seven games that year. 720 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: They're all weird. Week or two later, they're in Atlanta 721 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: and losing to Joey Harrington and the Falcons. Oh, I 722 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 1: forgot about that. Harrington is two at l all time 723 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 1: against the Texans because he beat them in oh four. 724 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: When the Texans visited Detroit, he Rolands talked about that 725 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 1: year and I was like, oh my god, you're right, 726 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: you're right. When you have your quarterback go to jail 727 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: and the first year head coach leaving after twelve games 728 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: or whatever it was that was leaving a note in 729 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: the locker saying I'm out see you in the next morning. 730 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: He's doing woo pig Suey. I'll never forget that, thank you. 731 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: It was Monday, they lost a Monday night game, and 732 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: less than twenty four hours after that, he's doing Woo 733 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: pig Suey. Yeah, that did not sit well with me. 734 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: Some people would say in Atlanta that he got his 735 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: just desserts with what happened at the end of that 736 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: run at Arkansas boy on the motorcycle and all that. 737 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: But it won't go any further. But but yeah, he 738 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: said that was the I said, that's that's that's makes 739 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: the cake. I want to say that. He said there 740 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: were more injuries here. Yeah, but he said that the 741 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 1: injury level, the injury level there was more, was significant, 742 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: but also because of Vic and because of Petrino. He said, 743 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: it just made it absolutely well because everything classes at 744 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: that point, everything even here as bad as it was, 745 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: you knew Watson would be back, and you thought, all right, 746 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: you just gotta take your lumps and go, and it 747 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: just got worse volume wise, because I think when you 748 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: look at the star power and the volume, it's the 749 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: worst injury season in the history of the league. I mean, 750 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: I just think quantifiably, and it's hard to quantify this stuff. 751 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: I get it, But how could it not be worse 752 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: than that? Let's just if you want to play the 753 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: what if game. What if let's just go pie in 754 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: the sky here. What if everybody stayed healthy, the entire 755 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: squad is healthy. Now, you didn't beat the Patriots with 756 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: virtually everybody, right, right, You didn't have Will that day, 757 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: that the one you didn't have Will, all right? So 758 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 1: Will's healthy that day New England. Does that change things? Uh? 759 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: You have all right, the tight ends. You got Griffin back, 760 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 1: but you didn't have Fedorwitz against the Patriots. Did Yeah, 761 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 1: you didn't have Doorwitz or you didn't have Fuller and Fedorawitz, 762 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 1: and you must have been missing a guy or two 763 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: on defense. I can't even remember right now against New England. 764 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: But Kevin Johnson didn't playing that game, all right, So 765 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: imagine everybody's healthy. Yeah, that's right, because they were playing 766 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: Jonathan Banks. Bring that up against the Patriots in guts 767 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: of the game snaps in which you needed to make stops, 768 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: and Jonathan Banks they got him off the street, right, 769 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: and God bless them. But you'd rather have Kevin Johnson. Yeah, 770 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: I remember during a break, Andre had some things to 771 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: say which he was right. Um. The It's funny because 772 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 1: on that NFL Top one hundred I mentioned Michael Bennett 773 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:54,720 Speaker 1: is who's from a leaf, He's from here, he said, 774 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: I thought after that game that they would win a 775 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 1: bunch of games to be a playoff team. Yeah, and 776 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: that and that day in Seattle didn't play with what 777 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: or merciless. So from that perspective, let's just say that 778 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 1: the Shawn stays healthy. Everything else happens, it happens, none 779 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: of you can do about it. Let's just say that 780 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: the Shawn stays healthy. I think the one other key 781 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: would have been yonte form it because when he has 782 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: a game against Arizona, all of a sudden, you turned 783 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 1: the corner with two bona fide stars at quarterback and 784 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: running back at rook with as rookies, and you're like, okay, WHOA. Now. 785 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: I do think there would have been a ceiling on 786 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: what they could have done last year with healthy only 787 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: only because the offensive line at some point teams would 788 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: have started seeing de Shaun a little bit more and 789 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 1: maybe made some adjustments. And I do think that the 790 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: offensive line last year still the should held back a 791 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,240 Speaker 1: little bit, but I still think they would have definitely 792 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 1: gotten to the playoffs. Well, let's well got let's look 793 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 1: at it this way. Do you beat the Cults, Yes, 794 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: right right after the injury. Yes, they go out to 795 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: the Rams, they lose that game. Yeah, I'll give it up. 796 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: They might win it, but I'll give you I'll I'll 797 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: take a loss. Arizona they beat with Savage anyway, what's 798 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: the next Baltimore? They breat Baltimore because they're right there. 799 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: You know, these one score games they're gonna win these 800 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: low scoring one Tennessee win all right, So at that 801 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: point the Cults again, you'll win out one at the 802 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 1: end of the year. Of course, you know, now Pittsburgh 803 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: Jacks to the Jags, tough. I get it. You're gonna 804 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,919 Speaker 1: lose those games. But at least now you might not 805 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: because maybe somehow you get yourself into a tennis match 806 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 1: for a while. Maybe it's somehow beat the Steelers. I 807 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 1: don't know. But what if we do about it? But 808 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: it's made But if you talk but but let's say 809 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 1: let's say that it goes kind of like we just 810 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 1: talked about. Let's say you do lose the Jags, the 811 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: Steelers and the Rams. Let's say let's say you lose 812 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 1: those San Francisco three, you're gonna beat them to the 813 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: I've got five more wins here minimum in those close games, 814 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: nine to seven. And because you're beating Tennessee twice, you 815 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 1: get the wild card. You would go to Kansas City 816 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 1: and play Kansas City. You would beat Kansas City and 817 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: then guess where you guess where you would have gone 818 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: for the divisional play offs again? Oh no, back to 819 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: New England. Oh no, back to New England in the 820 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:12,280 Speaker 1: divisional round. Watton Merciless. Now, all things considered being fully 821 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 1: and completely healthy again, I still feel like there's still 822 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: would have been a cap on what they could have 823 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: done offensively, because I think the offensive I think the 824 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 1: offensive line. And I got asked this the other day 825 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, and they brought it up, obviously, because that's 826 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: the day that Saxonville turned into Saxonville is Week one 827 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: against US and then offensive line it gave up ten sacks. 828 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: They said, well, how how is that offensive lining to be? 829 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 1: And I said, look, it's gonna be better. And then 830 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 1: I thought, wait a second, it has to be better. 831 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: There's no questions gonna be better. But I saw a 832 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: statistic online there are no teams are replacing all five 833 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: starters on the offensive line. Right, there's a potential for 834 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 1: two teams to replace four guys, the Giants and the Texans. 835 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: One they grew placed three. The majority with two or one. 836 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: There are only three teams that could replace three or more, 837 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: one San Francisco and the other two of the You're 838 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: gonna be better than you were, right, You're gonna be better. 839 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: It's just a matter of how much better, and it 840 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: remains to be seen. I just don't think you can 841 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,919 Speaker 1: be much worse than you were right, and even with 842 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 1: that offensive line, as I just said a little while ago, 843 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: I think there would be a ceiling at what you 844 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: could do offensively because of the offensive line. You still 845 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: had a period where you were scoring forty points a 846 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 1: game that offense a line. But in this what if scenario, 847 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 1: I'm not even asking you for the thirty or twenty 848 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 1: five or twenty I'm just asking you for one more touchdown, Yeah, 849 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: maybe one more field goal to something in ZIMSZ and 850 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 1: I think you get that with a healthy Watson. And 851 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 1: you're right, you know, by say the offensive line is 852 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 1: gonna be better, that might not be saying much. Might 853 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 1: not be saying much, but maybe you're saying a whole 854 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: lot more. If things gel the way they want and 855 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 1: with a healthy Watson, we all know that the offense 856 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,359 Speaker 1: looks a whole lot better. This just in Yeah, And 857 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 1: I even joked the other day saying that the Shawn 858 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 1: was the best offensive linements team had last year. But 859 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 1: I do think this offensive line will be I think 860 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 1: it will be significantly better. You're talking about Nick Martin 861 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,879 Speaker 1: going into the only starter you think that's gonna remain 862 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: is gonna be Nick Martin who's going to his second 863 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: year as a starter, third year in the building. But 864 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 1: Zach Folk can play Senuel kill Meta could play Seantrelle 865 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 1: if he can get back to before his his his sickness. 866 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 1: If he can get back before that, he was playing 867 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 1: pretty well as a young guy. So if he can 868 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 1: get back to that Martinez ranking, if he is as 869 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,919 Speaker 1: what I think he can be, I think he's gonna 870 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 1: be a good linement business. But really it all comes 871 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 1: down to, in most I think, in most people's eyes 872 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,399 Speaker 1: and mine, two, what does Julian do? And I think 873 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 1: Julie and I and I feel good about that because 874 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 1: I think Julian's gonna end up being a player, a 875 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,319 Speaker 1: left tackle. I think he's gonna be a really solid player. Well, 876 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,440 Speaker 1: we'll have a chance to see him on the field tomorrow. 877 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 1: Looking forward to getting your comments on what you're gonna 878 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 1: see tomorrow. Tomorrow Night's show all about OTAs, John Harris 879 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 1: and I'll make it appearance as well. Of course. Thank 880 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 1: you Johnny Frank here today, and thank you all for listening. 881 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 1: This show available on iTunes, tune in wherever Fine podcasts 882 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 1: are available. Have at night everyone, and go Texans.