1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: I feel like it was a good day for this. 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: The Tower of the Backup Catcher. There's not a chapter 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: in there about what we're about to talk about. I 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: hope actually neither of you have gone through. No, no, 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: what we're about to talk about, right. 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 2: That's what I think we're about to talk about. Yeah, 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 2: that it would not be a good conversation. 8 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: It's a good book, by the way, it would not 9 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: be in the book. 10 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: But I appreciate the shout out for the book. 11 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: The Talb of the Backup Catcher. 12 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: Oh no, David Ross is great in that book. Oh 13 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: is it a different book? 14 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: A book? 15 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 2: Oh? Sorry? How how I made my money is how 16 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: the title of that book. 17 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: Leicester BFF. You didn't have a Lester bff crat. 18 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 3: That is why I played for fourteen different organizations, nine 19 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 3: different teams, and. 20 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: No dancing, even though you would have been fantastic. Yep, 21 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: all right, here we go. I want to have some 22 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: time for this. It's not charged them ound. It's the 23 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: Yankees beat the Astros in the opener of the series, 24 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: but that's not the story. Fran Barvaldez gave up two 25 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: home runs to left handed hitters, which is very rare 26 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: for him, but that's not the story. After the Grand 27 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: Slammy surrendered to Trent Grisham. There was a cross up 28 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: with his catcher, Saysar. Salas Are ninety three miles an 29 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: hour to the ribs turned away as if he didn't 30 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: care that there was a cross up. Afterward, they said 31 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: it's all good. After chatting in the manager's office, Framber 32 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: said it wasn't on purpose. We have two catchers on 33 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: this show. It's the cross up controversy. This seems like 34 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: he had a hit on his catcher. Remember he gives 35 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: up that grand slam and it looked like saves our salads. 36 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: I was trying to stop. 37 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 2: Him a j from He told her to step off. 38 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: You see if you if you, if you run it back. 39 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 2: Salazar gives him the old universal step off signal, and 40 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: Frommer did not step off. He threw the pitch and 41 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:24,399 Speaker 2: the volpy Volpe's like, what df was that? He shocked? Yeah, 42 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: uh you see salas Ar give the wave. Yeah, that's 43 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 2: the universal, don't pitch step off. Fromber says, screw it. 44 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna chuck this sinker. It's gonna go in the 45 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: croft for boxes for a granny. Trent Grisham's like thank you, 46 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: and it's almost at thirty homers by the way, and 47 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: then this one. 48 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: I mean, what happened? How does this happen? 49 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. With PitchCom, I really don't know. I 50 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: can understand there were pictures I had is I mean, 51 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: I don't want to underrat a part of this across 52 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: up his Yeah, there's some very Volpe's faces money, But 53 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 2: I don't know. With pitchcomb Craft, you had PitchCom. I 54 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: never had PitchCom but it could happen. Octavio Dotel couldn't see. 55 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: So there were times when I put down two and 56 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: he threw a heater, but that was when you had 57 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: to give the old fingers. Now you just push a 58 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: button and it says in your ear and you can 59 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: hear it. So I don't know how there could possibly 60 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: be a cross up with the Pitchcolm. I don't know. 61 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: I mean, we don't know. I don't know. 62 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 3: I do know it wasn't a cross up. Let's just 63 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 3: be honest. Let's not let's not try to let's not 64 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 3: try to mince words. Let's not try to go through 65 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 3: a translator see what the meeting was. Let's just look 66 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 3: at his reaction. The first pitch he threw was just 67 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 3: a change up that was up and away, So it 68 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 3: was a one zero count. The Yankee fans that were 69 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 3: in Houston, which they're not, you know, they're not more 70 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 3: Yankee fans in Houston than there are Astro fans. They've 71 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 3: probably settled down from at this point. The Grand Slam 72 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 3: grisham ran around the base is one of the excuses 73 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 3: of one of the people was it was loud. It 74 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 3: was loud, it was hard to hear. I never played 75 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 3: with the pitch calm, but I tried it out because 76 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 3: it was coming into the game and then I quit, 77 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 3: so I never got to use it. Yeah, I get 78 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 3: it if it's loud. If it's loud like Game seven 79 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 3: of the World Series, game seven to two outs like 80 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 3: oh I can't hear, no, no, no, no, had settled down. 81 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 3: This wasn't the first pitch right afterwards. This was an 82 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 3: intentional pitch. Come at me, whoever wants to come at me. 83 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 3: I've never seen it. And if you tell me, if 84 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 3: you're a baseball player and you think this was not intentional, 85 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 3: please talk to me. If you're a fan of Framber Valdez, 86 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 3: say it because in my opinion, I don't. I would 87 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 3: have a hard time finding a big league baseball player, 88 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 3: even a minor league baseball player, that didn't think this 89 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 3: was intentional, all based on Salazar's reaction, all based on 90 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 3: Framber's reaction after he threw the pitch. 91 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 2: All right, So here's my thing. I don't want to Listen, 92 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: I can't accuse anybody of any thing. Listen, what does 93 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: it look like? I agree? But do I know that 94 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: there's only two people that know what pitch he called 95 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 2: and what pitch he threw, and that's Salazar and Fromber. 96 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 2: I think that here, here's here's what it looks like. 97 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 2: He gets. First of all, Salazar tells him to step off. 98 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: Frommer says, screw this, I'm throwing this pitch anyways. Then 99 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 2: it gets whacked out of the park for a home run. Right, 100 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 2: so Salesar clearly didn't want to throw that pitch. So 101 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 2: then who's Fromber mad at himself for throwing the pitch? 102 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,799 Speaker 2: Because I always told my pitchers what I put down 103 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: is not the end all be all. It is a suggestion. 104 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: I'm giving you my best suggestion. If you don't want it, 105 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 2: all you gotta do is go like this, and I'll 106 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 2: put down another sign and you throw it and if 107 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 2: it gets hit then it's on you. So Salasar clearly 108 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: didn't want him to throw it, he says, step off. 109 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 2: He did not. He threw the pitch whack grand slam. 110 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 2: Now he changed up high and away the next pitch. 111 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 2: I don't know what was called in the pitch Calm again. 112 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: Only two people know that answer, Sally and Fromber. He 113 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 2: chucked the ball and it hit Salasar, his own guy, 114 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 2: not the other team, his own guy in the ribs. Okay, 115 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: then I know this. Whenever I was crossed up by 116 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 2: a picture, the first thing the picture would do is 117 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: say are you okay? Are you all right? Sorry? Or 118 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 2: give you the the My bad, my bad. He didn't 119 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: do any of that. He turned around and walked away 120 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 2: like okay. So not only like whether he did it 121 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: on purpose or not, that's kind of disrespectful to his catcher, 122 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 2: the guy who's back there busting his tail right cratzy, 123 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: Like whenever a guy crossed you up. First thing what 124 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 2: they always say, I'm bad, I'm bad, Oh dude, I'm 125 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 2: so sorry, my bad. I'm not bad. I couldn't see right, 126 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: They're all that's the first reaction from every guy I've 127 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: ever caught. So I don't know, man, but I know this. 128 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 2: It's a bad look for the Astros. And and here's 129 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 2: the thing about Salazar. What can sales Aar say? Salasar 130 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: is a third catcher? 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The only thing 168 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 3: that I disagree with what they didn't do, and maybe 169 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 3: they didn't it'll come out and what AJ just said 170 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 3: was more than two people have PitchCom payin you should 171 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 3: have PitchCom I'm assuming it was out two at second base. 172 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: I'm not sure he should. 173 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 3: There's five. I think there's five pitchcomps. There's four or 174 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 3: five that are out there. Everybody hears what pitch is coming. 175 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 3: They should have gone to those guys. But you know, 176 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 3: maybe more will come out later. By this is it's 177 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 3: a bad look. And I go back to I caught 178 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 3: a guy named Juan Perez one time. He threw about 179 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 3: ninety four ninety five lefty, and he crossed me up 180 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 3: twice in the same game. The second time it was 181 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 3: a slider that I went to go down and into 182 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 3: a righty to catch, and it was ninety four and 183 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 3: it missed a very very sensitive region by half an inch. 184 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 3: Drilled me right and I mean missed my chest protector, 185 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 3: missed my thigh like rate in the lower region. This 186 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 3: guy was almost crying on the mount he felt so 187 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 3: bad for crossing me up. That is the reaction that 188 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 3: you get. That is the reaction you get when somebody 189 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 3: who's out there and not putting their own personal things 190 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 3: out there, not pouting because they gave up a home run. 191 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 2: They feel bad for the person on their team that 192 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 2: they almost hit. 193 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 3: And this dude I'm talking about, he would he would 194 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 3: pepper dudes on the other team stare him down. He 195 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 3: was like a buck sixty. He didn't care, like he 196 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 3: didn't care about hitting somebody. But hearing about somebody hitting 197 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 3: hitting somebody on your own team, that's not the reaction 198 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 3: of somebody that it was too loud. 199 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: Sorry I'm not that's the question. Well, that's the question 200 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 1: for Framberg. Hey, it was an accident. How come he 201 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: didn't apologize, how he didn't care? Great, there's no answer 202 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 1: to that. What's the answer to that? Oh, I didn't 203 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: realize that he got drilled right. 204 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: In the ribs. I mean, Salazar went to go out 205 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 2: to the mound. If you watch it, he went to 206 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 2: go out to the mound, and then he realized that 207 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 2: from ran his back to him and he was just like, 208 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 2: I ain't going out there. 209 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: He goes, oh, this was on purpose in his brain. 210 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 2: Maybe in his brain. I can't tell you what he 211 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: was thinking, but I will say this, if this was 212 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 2: if there was even a thought of it being on purpose, 213 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 2: there needs to be a adults only meeting down in 214 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 2: the tunnel with Salazar and Fromber and whoever the heck 215 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 2: else needs to go down there. And I A'm saying, 216 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: you know, Papple Bond and Harper Style and the picture, 217 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 2: but there is an adult conversation that needs if you 218 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 2: had a grown man conversation like you're trying to hurt 219 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 2: me and I'm on your team, Bro, that ain't cool. 220 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 2: I'm your teammate. I'm back there catching must of my 221 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 2: ass for you. It ain't my fault. I told pictures 222 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 2: before they'd be like, I didn't want to throw that pitch. Okay, 223 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 2: shake your head, but it ain't my fault. You threw 224 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 2: a crappy pitch. That's on you. You threw the crappy pitch. 225 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: Not me. 226 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 2: If he throws down the middle, I can't. It's not 227 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: my I struck out plenty of times. My fault, But 228 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 2: I'm trying to hurt somebody on my team. 229 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: He cost himself a lot of money just now, I'm serious. 230 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: He's a free agent after this year. The Astros definitely 231 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: give out contracts, even to pitchers. They've given them out 232 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: to starters, they've given them out to relievers. He hasn't 233 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: gotten one. Maybe they haven't great on money. There are 234 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: some teams, some owners even out there who will see 235 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: this on social media and say, not for me. 236 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 2: I'm serious about that. Yes, take your word for it. 237 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: Yes, right, but he's a good He's one of the 238 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: best free agent starters available talent. 239 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:02,719 Speaker 2: Wow, this isn't the first time where he's kind of 240 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 2: lost his mind on the mount. 241 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: This is what I'm talking about. Though, this will cost 242 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: him money. 243 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 2: Crafts guarantee guaranteed. 244 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 3: How much nobody ownver Reill tell but this will cost 245 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 3: him a certain amount of money. And I know we 246 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 3: got to get to Ken, But I to me like 247 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 3: the reaction that AJ would have compared to the reaction 248 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 3: that I would have as a backup catcher. Who you 249 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 3: piss off the number one starter on your team. I 250 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 3: know Hunter Brown's the number one starter, but you piss 251 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 3: off one of the big guys on the team as 252 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 3: a backup catcher. It's a way different reaction organizationally than 253 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 3: if AJ does it. I'm just saying it's a so 254 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 3: we can react to it two different ways. I'd want 255 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 3: to fight the guy. I would want to punch him 256 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 3: in the face underneath the underneath, the dugout like it 257 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 3: makes it makes my skin boil to think that a 258 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 3: teammate would do that to another teammate. 259 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: He chucked the baseball at his teammate, period, chuck to 260 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: baseball at his teammate. He had a hit on his 261 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: teammate any game done periods. 262 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: So that's what I meant by a grown man conversation. 263 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 2: We're having a grown. 264 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: Man conversation under the Yeah, I'll. 265 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 2: Tell you what. The first thing I would do is 266 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 2: when when he turned his back on me and I'm Salazar, 267 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 2: I'm rifling that song gun right at his knees. I 268 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: mean as hard as I could throw. I'm rifling at 269 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: his ankles, his knees. He could take at the point 270 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 2: like what are you doing? Bro Like, and then there'd 271 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: be a there'd be a like, there'd be a look 272 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 2: for me, and and I would be throw whatever you want, 273 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 2: I'll catch it. I don't care what you throw. I'd 274 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 2: be like, your stuff ain't that good? Throw whatever the 275 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 2: hell you want. And then the ending's over, and I'd 276 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 2: go to the manager and I'd be like me or him, 277 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 2: me or him and Krasty obviously couldn't do that, but 278 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 2: I'd be like me or him, get us, get one 279 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 2: of us out of the game because this ain't flying. 280 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: Yep, I don't think. 281 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 3: I hope it comes across at how like fired up 282 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 3: it make like it makes me like I feel like 283 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 3: I'm even actually kind of holding back, to be honest, 284 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 3: because I've never seen. 285 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 2: We all are. I've never seen this. I've never seen this, 286 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 2: but we all are. We all are because it's it's 287 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 2: not something you've ever I've ever seen. I've never seen 288 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 2: a guy on a team do something that looks And again, 289 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 2: I'm not We're okay. I know we're crap saying. What 290 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 2: are you saying? I can't say for certain. It's like 291 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 2: an injury. I don't know if it's someone's he never guessed. 292 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 2: I can only take a guy for what he said. 293 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 2: We can speculate on what it looks like. But I 294 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: know what it looks like. That's what it looks like. 295 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 2: That's bad. If that's if that's what happened, I'm sorry. 296 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 2: That's bad. 297 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: Ten out of ten bad, oh, twelve out of ten bad. Exactly, Yeah, 298 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: that's why it leads to the show. This was one 299 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: of the few cases where social media all agreed. Right. 300 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: Social media doesn't agree on almost anything. Everyone was like, 301 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: what the heck was that that was intentional? And then 302 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: there were obviously the extreme of like I saw even 303 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: cut him. I'm like, they're not cutting it, But are 304 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: they resigning him? I don't think so. 305 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 2: The better question is the next time he starts, who's 306 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 2: who catches him? 307 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 3: Just putting saysar out there, Just say Sary, go go 308 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 3: back and play with the wolves. 309 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 2: No chance there is. There is not a chance in the. 310 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: World if it's the iner Diaz. He's like, I'm here 311 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: longer than you now, I'll be here longer than you 312 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: watch yourself. GARTENI I think, is. 313 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 2: He ain't doing that though, to one of those I'm 314 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: telling you, Crat, you know this. He ain't doing that. 315 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 2: He ain't doing that to Diaz, and he ain't doing 316 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: that to Quarantine. You know that. And I know that 317 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 2: if he wouldn't do it, because he just he wouldn't, 318 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 2: And that makes it even worse in my opinion, that 319 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: makes it even worse. 320 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: I'm fine with it. Uh, we're just chit chatting. I 321 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: do want to get to this lies again. No, I'm 322 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: not White Sox twenty twenty fine, well. 323 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 2: White Sox twenty nine. You said Rockies twenty twenty five too. 324 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: They're they're around, just like I just wanted to say 325 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: Rockies twenty twenty five. Nothing about their results, just Rockies 326 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, which we are going to talk about 327 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: the Mariners right now. I do not like the Mariners. 328 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: They cannot figure out winning on the road. And JP 329 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: Crawford post game, I watched most of that game yesterday, 330 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: the Junior Caminara game. He is ridiculous good. And the 331 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: pitch that he hit coming in as someone base loaded 332 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: down too and scored one true true. They also left 333 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: put the fire in the game with the right spire 334 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: the lefty to face Cameron Arow when they had Matt 335 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: Brash warming up, and I'm like, Brash, Yes, either strikeout, 336 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: no smokes, one pass gino and that's your ball game. Anyway, 337 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: the Mariners lost. They've lost thirteen of nineteen. Cratchy boy 338 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: cal Riley has fifty one homers, but now his team 339 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: has to worry about making the playoffs. And the Rangers lost, 340 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: thankfully for them, but this is real. They cannot figured 341 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: it out on the road. JP Crawford said this has 342 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: happened the last three years now, where they get in 343 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: these ruts and it's spirals in August and September. 344 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 3: The team that travels way more miles than everybody else 345 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 3: is getting tired in August and September. Why don't they 346 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 3: mix in some night game getaway days too, just to 347 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 3: have that for the travel. 348 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: It's tough. 349 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 2: It is a real thing. 350 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: Especially late in the year. These trips seem to be 351 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: a party. 352 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 2: You give it every time to go to East. They 353 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 2: win one and six and the band trips in the East. 354 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: You want them early. That's what I've been told early 355 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:38,719 Speaker 1: in the year. We're throwing a curveball at you this 356 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: week for our arena club segment. As AJ has opened 357 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: up a Pokemon slap pack. 358 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 2: Did you say it? 359 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: Pokemon? 360 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 2: Flatman? 361 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: Pokemon. Don't ask me to say what that card is, 362 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: but we're doing with that card. 363 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 2: I already sold it back, baby. I bought it, and 364 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 2: then I got more money than I paid for the pack, 365 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 2: so I sold us straight back. 366 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: You bought it for two fifty, sold it for two 367 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: and you can go get yourself something that you maybe 368 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: know how to pronounce. 369 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 2: Yes, I know what it is. I said it because 370 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 2: I saw certain people opening Pokemon and they're making money, 371 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 2: and guess what I got. Lucky made money. 372 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: Off of it too, exactly. But of course, if you're 373 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: into sports cards, that is something that you can find 374 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: a ton of on the Arena Club marketplace. By sell 375 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: slab pack trade twenty percent off your first slap pack 376 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: or card purchase can be had at Arena club dot com. 377 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: Slash foul and use the code foul. That's arenaclub dot com. 378 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 1: Slash foul and use code foul. Hey, we didn't get 379 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: to this yesterday, but the Cubs made a number of 380 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: moves over the last few days. They picked up Carlos 381 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: Santana so he can first place first base platoon with 382 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: Michael Bush. Santana against leftis. 383 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 2: By the way, Michael Bush is having a great year. 384 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: I don't understand, but that's what they want to do. 385 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: I agree that you're going to play Carlos Santana in 386 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: the postseason against the lefty. 387 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 2: I want Michael Bush and lead off for me, like 388 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 2: I agree, been raking. He's got like thirty homers. 389 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 1: They got Turner off of playing any positions but anyway, 390 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: pushing him forward, and Sabali they picked up to pitch 391 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: out of the bullpen. Oh in Casey got optioned and 392 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: they called up another top prospect, Kevin ALCNTRA. But there's 393 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: some speculation that you know, he'll now stay under that 394 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: forty five day windows that he's rookie eligible next year. 395 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 2: Well, it's almost as if there was people out there 396 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 2: that said, when he got called up, where's he going 397 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 2: to play? And he's not going to get enough of bats? 398 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 2: And he had like twenty bats, twenty four at bats 399 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 2: I think in how many days, and he wasn't playing 400 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 2: every day. 401 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: But it was also right before that threshold. 402 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 2: Yes, but also again he wasn't playing, So why was 403 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 2: he called up? Because their outfield is I mean, I 404 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 2: know Tucker sat a couple of days, but their outfield's 405 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 2: pretty set. 406 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: Played well for a couple of days when Tucker sat. 407 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: Let's give him a little. 408 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 2: Taste, I don't know whatever. Co Cubs go. 409 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: There, good depth, Yeah. 410 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 2: Trying, they're trying. 411 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 3: You'd better hope this this Tucker thing isn't isn't bad 412 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 3: because if he's out, cubs are cooked. They might be 413 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 3: cooked anyway making the playoffs and then one and Q, but. 414 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 2: No organization has ever manipulated service time like the Cubs. 415 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: Chris Bryant. 416 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 2: There they were the originators. 417 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: That changed the game, that led. 418 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 2: Rules changed a lot of stuff. Yeah, because they made 419 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 2: the rule about rookie of the Year and all that stuff. 420 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: He was what like three years old, best hitter in 421 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: spring training, ready to go, and they're like his defense, yeah. 422 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 3: Defense, but fifty a year before forty homers in the 423 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 3: minor leagues. 424 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 425 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: And then and then the exact day of the super deadline, 426 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: they're like, his defense has been fixed, yes, cured up 427 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: to the show. 428 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Now it wasn't a super too. He became 429 00:20:58,359 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 2: a super too. 430 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: But no, it wasn't two service time. They kept him 431 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: a service. 432 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 433 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, worked out for him. He ended up getting plenty 434 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: of money in his career. Unfortunately, has been completely irrelevant 435 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: for the last few seasons. My locket yesterday because Nolan 436 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: McLain is doing what Fernando Valezuela did in his first 437 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: four starts, the only two starters to be four and 438 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: oh with a sub one five ora twenty five plus 439 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 1: strikeouts over their first four career starts. And this is 440 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 1: Cinciira became official in both leagues in nineteen thirteen, Fernando 441 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: Mania nineteen eighty one, McLean Amania well. 442 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 2: Yesterday's offense picked him up because he yeah, well you 443 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 2: give up some runs. 444 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean first inning a little Rocky didn't have 445 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 1: his breaker, changed things up, and then he started cruising again. 446 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: Ye against the Tigers team that's one of the best 447 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: in the American League. So you got to give him credit, Kratz. 448 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: Since they decided to call up Nolan McLain a year 449 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: earlier than most anticipated, the Mets are playing much better ball. 450 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 3: The mess just want to win, and he's clearly solidifying 451 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 3: himself as one of those top three starters. I don't 452 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 3: care what game, I don't care what game he's starting 453 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 3: in the playoffs. For him, he's getting a start and 454 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 3: no better announcer to have. I hope people were listening 455 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 3: to the Tigers game because Jason Bennetti AJ's boy was 456 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 3: taught was said it perfectly. He was like that that 457 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 3: is a sinker, but it's like glowing like the pitches 458 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 3: he was throwing yesterday. 459 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 2: It was. It was incredible. 460 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 3: The variance what they call variants, slider to sinker variants, 461 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 3: like the difference they both start the same spot. It 462 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 3: was gross and Jason Bennetti encapsulated it very well. It 463 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 3: was a sinker, but it was glowing. 464 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: It's the thing with McLean's stuff. You look at it 465 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: and you're like, this looks different. Yeah, how come we 466 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: weren't talking about this more? This guy just sneaks up 467 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: on the scene. 468 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 2: You give up two in the first and then settle 469 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 2: down nicely. 470 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: That was it, right, Yeah, So Mets pick up the dub. 471 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: Their offense has been on fire. 472 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 2: But you know who we don't talk about for the 473 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 2: Mets as a Clay Holmes. Nobody talks about Clay Holmes. 474 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: I think he's starting tonight or today right now. 475 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 2: But I'm saying for playoffs, we're talking Manaya and Singa 476 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 2: and this guy and that guy, and Peterson and McLain 477 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 2: and and all these guys. We don't even talk about 478 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 2: Clay Holmes. He was thrown in the bullpen for a 479 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 2: World Series team the last three years. So to me, 480 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 2: that's an easy for me, that's an easy shift. When 481 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 2: we have Carlos Mendoza on. Obviously he's not gonna say it. 482 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: See you, Rapiel Devers trying to charge the mound, Kyle 483 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: Freeland talking smack, no, wow, Robby didn't charge first. 484 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 3: Raffie didn't charge the mound. Matt Chapman and William Domas 485 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 3: charged the mound. They were Matt Chaming went after him hard. 486 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 3: I was body checked in. 487 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 2: That was not a whole me back. 488 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 3: I'm gonna chat till I get you know, the cl 489 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 3: Pueague thing where oh now someone's in between. 490 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 2: Now we're gonna do something. 491 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 3: By the way, Raffie in August is like a thousand 492 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 3: slugging percentage. 493 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 2: So there's that. But rafi. 494 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 3: Raffie's like, well, I'm gonna keep running around. Chapman's like no, 495 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 3: that ain't happening. William Thomas is like, yeah, this is 496 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 3: my chance. I mean they wanted some pieces, and there 497 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 3: was some. I hope Freeland was swinging with his right hand. 498 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 3: That's all I gotta say. Well, nuke leloosh. 499 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 2: I wouldn't know why Freeling's so mad. I mean, guys 500 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 2: hit homers and do this all the time. This is like, 501 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 2: this is not a thing anymore. This is not a 502 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 2: thing anymore. Remember we always say this, Anything is a 503 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 2: go until somebody gets their poor little feelings hurt. And 504 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 2: then then oh no, now we're gonna allowed to flip 505 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 2: bats and watch home runs. Raffie Devers does this every 506 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 2: home run he hits. This isn't the anything different than 507 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 2: what Raffie Devers does. And I don't know who on 508 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 2: the Rockies could do this, but I guarantee you somewhere 509 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 2: along the way the Rockies dude hit a homer, stood 510 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 2: there and watched and flipped his bat. I'm and I'm sorry, 511 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 2: but this is not get mad at it anymore. 512 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 1: Not allowed anymore. If you're on the if you're. 513 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 2: Gonna say, let the kids play and you want this 514 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 2: and that, take your time going around the bases, don't 515 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 2: get mad. I'm sorry. I know you're frustrated, freeling, but 516 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 2: you can't get mad at this. You can't. It's just 517 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 2: not a thing anymore. 518 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: You want to hear what each side said to state 519 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,479 Speaker 1: their case. We can start with Kyle Freelans, because everyone 520 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: after the game was curious what ticked him off. It 521 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: didn't seem like it was anything too crazy. Here's Kyle. 522 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I just, you. 523 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 4: Know, found it extremely disrespectful to, you know, show me 524 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 4: up like that in the first inning after hitting a 525 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 4: home run, standing there watching it, taking your sweet time 526 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 4: getting down in first base. Then this league for quite 527 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 4: some time, I know he is as well. I just 528 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,239 Speaker 4: wanted to extremely disrespect going. I felt that I need 529 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 4: to let me know about that. 530 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: So then I'm thinking, is he not familiar with Rappie's 531 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: game because he went from the ALE to NL. But 532 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: then you get the other side of the equation because 533 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: the Rockies and the Giants meet up all the time. 534 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: So Logan Webb post game was very telling on how 535 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: he was not surprised that this went down. 536 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 4: Surprised that hasn't happened before with that guy so kind 537 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 4: of runs his mouth a lot of times, and. 538 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 2: I forgot him good. So listen, if you listen, If 539 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 2: you run your mouth, you better be able to take 540 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 2: it because it's gonna come back at you. Listen to 541 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 2: someone that round. I ran my mouth and I got 542 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 2: hit fine because only one time I want to charge 543 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 2: them mountain and I did it and I and I 544 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 2: am happy that I didn't because it was Vincente Padilla 545 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 2: and he hit me twice in the same spot, within 546 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 2: like half an inch of each other. And I thought 547 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 2: about it, but then I realized my right arm was 548 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 2: known and if I went out there, I would have 549 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 2: been like Rob Mature with no no arm, So I 550 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 2: would have probably got my ass kicked. So I did it. 551 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 2: But listen, somebody that's been thrown at and I run 552 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 2: my mouth. There was a lot of times where I 553 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,959 Speaker 2: deserve to get hit. Fine, I took it. But then 554 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 2: if I hit a home run, because there was times 555 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 2: there was dudes that hit me and then I took 556 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 2: him deep, then I was gonna watch it. And they 557 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 2: knew that's fine. I understood. You strike me out and 558 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 2: you fist pump me and I get you. I'm gonna 559 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 2: go right back at you. That's fair. But if this 560 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 2: is true what they're saying. Again, I'm not saying it's true. 561 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 2: But if this logan web said he runs his mouth, 562 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 2: then Devor hits his home run, you know what, I 563 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 2: can't say anything. Jose Lima, when he was the first 564 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 2: one to kind of do the whole shenanigans. I talked 565 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 2: to him. He goes, poppy, I strike you out, I'm 566 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 2: gonna dance. You hit a home run me, you can 567 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 2: pimp it because I understand it goes both ways. And 568 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 2: he was right. Listen, I ran my mouth, I got hit. 569 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 2: I understood it. But then if I got you, oh, 570 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 2: I was gonna get you. 571 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: So you would say this to Kyle Freeland if you 572 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: were playing against him, Hey, dude, it goes both ways. 573 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: Not that Kyle Freeland's a big celebrator. 574 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 2: No, no, no, yeah, but again I don't know, but 575 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 2: there's if the Giants are saying he talks a lot 576 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 2: and then again, but in today's game, it's different. Rob 577 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 2: never sits the home run, stands there and watch it. 578 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 2: That's what he does. He's been doing this his whole career. 579 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 2: Why are we talking? Next time he comes up smoking? 580 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 2: Can we talk? 581 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: But why even smoke him? 582 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 2: If I don't know? 583 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: Always does and the. 584 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 2: One is talking due as he's running around the Oh, 585 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 2: you're telling him, hey, you know, I don't like that. 586 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: You're saying you want to fight, make a better patch, 587 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: but also you're basically saying you want to fight. And 588 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: it's funny. 589 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 2: They made exactly the best part of this is Raffie 590 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 2: Devers had to play third base. After all these dudes 591 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 2: got kicked. He played third base. They did Devers play 592 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 2: third bag? You aget Devers to play third base, get 593 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 2: the whole team kicked out, and Devers has to go 594 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 2: play third The Red Sox didn't try that one. 595 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,479 Speaker 3: Freedlan Freedlan felt like he was disrespected. He was like, 596 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 3: you hit a home run off me in the first 597 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 3: inning and you watch it like Kyle Freeland's giving up 598 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 3: twenty home runs before yesterday's game, like And he also 599 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 3: said he took his took his time, like do we 600 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 3: need a do we need a pitchclock? Do we need 601 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 3: a running clock? 602 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: Like? 603 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 3: What is what is too much time to watch it? 604 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 3: What is taking your time running the basis? Like is 605 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 3: that the is there a prerequisite? I just I think 606 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 3: I think Kyle Freelan was clearly something set the team off. 607 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 3: They were prepared to be set off and prepared to be, 608 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 3: you know, maybe more chirpy. If he's chirping, then the 609 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 3: other team's chirping. And for a domis and and Chapman 610 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,719 Speaker 3: to both come out there like they did, that is 611 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 3: that's rare to see that reaction was not unwarranted because 612 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 3: he wasn't even he wasn't even like like if he 613 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 3: was physically assaulting Devors, That's what I would expect the 614 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 3: reaction to be. Somebody come out and push the guy, 615 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 3: you know, someone else come out and body him up 616 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 3: and then throw punch at Like No, it was like 617 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 3: it escalated quickly, and I think it's because everybody was 618 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 3: probably more on edge. 619 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: It's still dog days, even though it's September, it is 620 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: dog days. 621 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 2: But again, I don't know. I mean, like Conkretsa, what's 622 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 2: the protocol? Do you do you have it? Do you 623 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 2: have to put a timer up there for how fast 624 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 2: you have to run around the bases? 625 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: Was fine? 626 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 2: I know, that's what I'm saying. I don't know. I 627 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 2: don't know what the disrespect came from. What was the 628 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 2: disrespect because he stood there and watched his homer. 629 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: No, to me, it's like a get off my lawn 630 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: old school mix that I'm unfamiliar with. 631 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 2: Now it's not it's not a thing anymore. Listen, I 632 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 2: was as big in that as as now. I don't 633 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 2: care because it's like whatever, do whatever. You want to 634 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 2: have fun, go play the game. 635 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: But the kids play right, said even he didn't look 636 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: at the other he. 637 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 2: Didn't look at it, He didn't look at free limit 638 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 2: say anything. He just stood there and watched his. 639 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: Homer, which is what it was, A nice homer, left 640 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: on left, nice homer. 641 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. 642 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 3: I am definitely more in the old school, and I'm 643 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 3: not like let the kids like it's not just run 644 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 3: them up, Like, but Devers didn't stand at home plate 645 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 3: and like pretend he had a rocket and like. 646 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 2: Like that would be awesome. Think it is bad and 647 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 2: make a rocket launcher and gone. 648 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 3: If if there's one, that's my second favorite celebration, if 649 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 3: it ever happens, And my first favorite one is somebody 650 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 3: hits a nuke, takes their bat and snaps it over 651 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 3: their leg. It looks at the picture and goes, that's 652 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 3: all that one had and then runs the basis that 653 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 3: would be bossed. 654 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 2: So if anybody wants to pull that off, nobody's gonna 655 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 2: do that because you just did a homer with a bat. 656 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 2: Why would you want to break about you just hit 657 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 2: a homer with because it would be the mega flex megaflex. Yeah, 658 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 2: there's only a couple of times in my life where 659 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 2: I've gone to the plate and I've tried, literally tried 660 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 2: to hit a home run and it worked, and it 661 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 2: was usually after a dude hit me. Okay, yep, there 662 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 2: was usually a there's a I can name about three 663 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 2: instances where dudes hit either threatened to hit me, or 664 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 2: hit me, and then from that point on it was like, 665 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 2: all right, now I'm lucked. Do you fn And I'm 666 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 2: trying to take you deep And it happened. You know, 667 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 2: there was times where it didn't work out, but the 668 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 2: times that it did, they got a long trot around 669 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 2: the base. 670 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: It happens, it happens. 671 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 3: I got thrown at him, back to back pitches. This 672 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 3: was in the bushes, back to back pitches. He missed, 673 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 3: Umpire came out, warned him. 674 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 2: Next pitch. I was like, there's no way he's ever 675 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 2: even coming close to inside. 676 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 3: So I was looking for a fastball away and I 677 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 3: thought I caught him to right field and I stood 678 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 3: in the box, flipped my bat and it hit the 679 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 3: wall and I was like, ah, then you have to 680 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 3: run really hard to get the second. 681 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: Yes you do, Yes you do. You got to make 682 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: up for that. Lastly, the Giants have won nine of ten. 683 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: Some people online are like, they're playing different. I'm like, 684 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: all right, they're playing meaningless games. But okay, they're different. 685 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: They're at the same level as they're five games, five 686 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: games out. I got it. They're playing nicely. But yeah, Giggy, 687 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: thank you, all right? 688 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 2: How many games on the world card? 689 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: Five the National League? 690 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 2: I'm it's over unless the Padres continue to get every 691 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 2: guy hurt in completely. 692 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: I still think they don't. 693 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 2: Lead over two teams. I don't think it's happened. 694 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: No way it's done. But it's a cute finish. It's 695 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: a cute finish for San Francisco. They'll lose a few 696 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: spots in the draft. I mean, sorry, the season's over, 697 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: but they're providing fireworks. 698 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 2: And by the way, if the Rangers would have won 699 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 2: last night, I would have thought I would have said, 700 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 2: all right, they've they've they're going to do this. 701 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: Not good. The news on Roman Anthony from Alex Cora, 702 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: who did his w e I appearance on the radio. 703 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: It could be four to six weeks for the Roman 704 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: Era left oblique strain for him. See exited yesterday's game. 705 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: It's called tightness now it's a strain, lead strain. Yeah, 706 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: not good, not good. Remember he missed what a couple 707 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: of games with the ACT and then after the game 708 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: astraight he was like, no, this is not the this 709 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: is this is not good. 710 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 2: You never had one of these. You don't even understand. 711 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: How bad it is, how much, how much it hurts. 712 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't do anything. You can't breathe, you already breathe. 713 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 2: You just like, don't move, don't left, don't sneeze, don't cough. 714 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 2: You'd like every every move is oh, and you're afraid 715 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:20,479 Speaker 2: you're gonna hurt it again. 716 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: They tell you to do nothing. 717 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 2: You're literally like no, no quick movements, no, like it's 718 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 2: definitely not doing crunches anytime soon. 719 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,240 Speaker 1: Super common in MLB two crats. It's a very common injury. 720 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 2: It is. It's weird. 721 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,879 Speaker 3: It shows you how like no other sports, you're getting 722 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 3: oblique injuries. But the boys are the boys are spinning 723 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 3: on it. It's tough to see. It's tough to see, 724 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 3: especially when he was like really like he had his 725 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 3: feet on the ground. For this team, we just talked 726 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 3: about yesterday's face and lefties like he's an everyday guy. 727 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 2: Tough loss, tough loss with this team. They don't see 728 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,720 Speaker 2: any other sport because there's no other sport. We're twisting 729 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 2: as much in the torque under the torque on your 730 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 2: obliques and then it's also he or his left one, 731 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 2: so that's stopping right, that's a stop one. I think 732 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 2: that where should you do your front one? I remember 733 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 2: what I did? Mind I can tell you the pitch 734 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 2: I did on I was like, this is different than 735 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 2: anything I've ever done in my life. 736 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: It's September third from now. 737 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 2: Six weeks puts them into the playoffs. 738 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: The playoffs. 739 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 2: Mid four weeks puts them into the playoffs. 740 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 1: Six weeks put you into the ALCS. 741 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a big blow for the Red Sox, probably 742 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 2: the division because you know the boys will come to get. 743 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: For That's a joke from yesterday's show. In case you 744 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: were unaware, there's been an issue lately with people that 745 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: catch our clips. Some people catch our clips on YouTube 746 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: and then they get confused by things. Like one guy 747 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,720 Speaker 1: was saying, how it was rude that I was reading 748 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: out the Blue Jay schedule and I should just know 749 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: it and talk about it that way. Every two hour 750 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: show we read things out. You're catching a five minute. 751 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 2: Clip cleaning up Scott. 752 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: So dirty. 753 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 2: How do you not know every team schedule? 754 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 1: That's when one guy said, don't waste money time, nice 755 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:32,320 Speaker 1: and simple, Hot corner show Heyo Tani appreciation a few minutes. 756 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: Forty six home run was one hundred and twenty miles 757 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: an hour off the bat and ninety nine miles an 758 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: hour in on the fastball from Bubba Chandler giving up 759 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: his first home run in the big leagues. Welcome to 760 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 1: the big leagues. I still want Tony. You're right, the. 761 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 2: Teams they did, don't And by the way, Chandler's two, 762 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 2: and oh. 763 00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: Yes, Bubba Chandler, why. 764 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 2: Not start him? Well, Lozinski started and then Chandler. 765 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: Don't get me started on that. But show hey at 766 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: average exit Vello ninety seven point three on pitches ninety 767 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 1: five miles an hour or greater and second best in baseball. 768 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: His sluging percentage is six seventeen on pitches ninety five 769 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 1: miles an hour or greater. That is best in the 770 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:29,320 Speaker 1: National League. The dude handles v low. He's a machine. 771 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: Hards wanted to give me some appreciation, especially in especially 772 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: in nitre zone down in. 773 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 2: His bad spot to throw. Yeah, the whole totany is 774 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 2: away from what I've seen. You got it. You kind 775 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 2: of got to get it up in a way. 776 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: But down in away breakers, right. 777 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 2: Change it yeah, left on left breakers of course, yeah, 778 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 2: don't go down and in Bubba Chandler, he didn't mean 779 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,280 Speaker 2: to throw it there, right, and it got the positive. 780 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 2: But what okay, So Bubba Chandler. We've gone into this. 781 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 2: But if he's start, if he's sting. 782 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 1: You can't get started. 783 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 2: Why don't we just start him in the game. Why 784 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:01,919 Speaker 2: not just start him in the game. 785 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: The Dodgers would do that. They did that with Showe 786 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 1: Hey Otani, who was building his way up right now. 787 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: He is trying to be a five maybe even six 788 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: inning guy heading into the playoffs, which would be great 789 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: for Dodgers fans. But what did they do when they 790 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: were working Otani back? 791 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 2: They started him. 792 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,240 Speaker 1: Here's an inning, here's two innings, et cetera. 793 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 2: Not a fair comparison. Why when did it come to 794 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 2: Kate Horton? Who because O'tani has to start so we 795 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 2: can stay in the game as DH so not a 796 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,399 Speaker 2: fair comparison. But cratch, what did the What did the 797 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 2: Cubs do with Kate Horton? They threw him to the 798 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 2: walls except for his first start. We didn't want to 799 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 2: pitch against Mett's first inning. They let him start. If 800 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 2: he's gonna be a starter, let him start. Not even 801 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 2: if he's gonna be I don't care what he's gonna be. 802 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 2: Make the transition easy. 803 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 3: The exact the exact reasoning was to ease him into 804 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 3: the big leagues. 805 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 2: To ease him into major league. 806 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 3: Baseball, he has done the exact same thing his entire career. 807 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 2: Start. 808 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 3: Let him start in the big leagues. That's the easiest 809 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 3: way to me. This is somebody who never played, never 810 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,760 Speaker 3: got a big league debut, making this decision. In my opinion, 811 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 3: I don't know if you can remember your debut, AJ, 812 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,280 Speaker 3: but if they said, hey, you know what you're starting tomorrow, AJ, Congratulations, 813 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 3: welcome to the big leagues. You're playing left, there would 814 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 3: be a little bit more nerves. I'm just saying, he's 815 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 3: warming up in the middle of the game, and I 816 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 3: know they're giving him a runway, easy, clean innings. No way, 817 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 3: he's sitting down in the bullpen, going this. 818 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 2: Feels just like the minor leagues. I got this, no problem. No, 819 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:40,359 Speaker 2: he's in a. 820 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 3: Bullpen, Like what if I long toss? What if the 821 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,359 Speaker 3: ball that I throw goes out into the field. They're 822 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 3: not setting him up for success. 823 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: In my opinion, it's a loser move by a loser 824 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 1: organization right now. It's just simply put. 825 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 2: As a kid say, as a kid, say they're doing 826 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 2: too much. Just don't do too much. Just just let 827 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:01,839 Speaker 2: him go. 828 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 1: One minute left in this segment, sho he Tani another MVP. 829 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 2: Ye hard to argue with him. In the National League? Who 830 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:11,879 Speaker 2: else is there? 831 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 1: Nobody? For me? 832 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 2: Is there anybody else? 833 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: I don't think it's close this year. 834 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 2: There's nobody in that league that's close. Schwarber would be 835 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 2: the next closest to me. Schoreber's fun, it's a fun 836 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 2: thing to talk about. But he's the close to me. 837 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:26,360 Speaker 2: He's the closest. 838 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: I mean, can't you make a case that Trey Turner 839 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 1: is having a better season than Shoreber. He's been one 840 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,320 Speaker 1: of the best defensive shortstops in the game this year. 841 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: He's the complete package, hits, I guess, scoring runs, set 842 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: in the table, the whole deal, no crats if you're 843 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 1: looking at. 844 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 3: Could end up Schober could end up with one hundred 845 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 3: and twenty RBI. I mean fifty five dingers, you know, 846 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 3: fifty eight dangers like he could. He could do some 847 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 3: really special things to get votes. Is yeah, is Turner 848 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 3: having a better year? Nobody's more valuable than what Schreber's 849 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,720 Speaker 3: on that team in my opinion. 850 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: Number forty for Junior Camerinara. This is data dish powered 851 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: by Inside Edge, so Inside Edge says that Junior Camerinara 852 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 1: has a hard hit rate of sixty eight percent against 853 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 1: pitchers who have thrown at least eighty pitches in a 854 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: game this season, second best in the American League. Junior 855 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: hit ball hard. 856 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 2: No one's even talking about it. 857 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: Nobody is talking. 858 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 2: Is he rookie? Is he a rookie? No, that stinks. 859 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 2: He called it. He got forty six days last year, 860 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 2: stupid race. 861 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 1: Not a rookie. Let's see how many how many games 862 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:49,959 Speaker 1: do you think he logged last year. 863 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 3: I wonder if this translates. I wonder if this translates 864 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 3: over the next year. Like it seems like he's not 865 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 3: just picking on guys that are throwing softer once they 866 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,799 Speaker 3: hit their eighty pitches. He's seen these guys. He's still 867 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 3: young in the league. Now he goes back and sees 868 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 3: him again. Second time he gets to face a guy. 869 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 2: Be interested. 870 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 3: Maybe there's an uptick forty plus home runs for next year, 871 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 3: a hundred, he's got a month agost. 872 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 873 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 1: His defense has gotten much better over the course of 874 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,879 Speaker 1: the year too. I mean he is really doing it 875 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 1: on base percentage, if you want to look at something, 876 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,320 Speaker 1: I mean two ninety nine, but he's a slogger forty 877 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 1: and one hundred. He's driving in runs. I'll take the 878 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: two ninety nine three four. Actually I messed up. Last 879 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: year was two ninety nine three oh four. 880 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 2: Still yeah, i'll take I'll take forty in one hundred. 881 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 1: Agreed. So he had one hundred and seventy seven played 882 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 1: appearances last year, and technically he got called up in 883 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 1: twenty three for seven games thirty six played appearances. But 884 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,760 Speaker 1: I guess last year, and I think it's forty five days. 885 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 1: I want to say not games. So then he probably 886 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 1: exhausted it, but not by much last year. Damn raised 887 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: you could have gotten yourself a pick. But good for them. 888 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 1: They called him up, they let him do his thing, 889 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: and now he gets a full year here this year. 890 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 1: And you should hand that man an extension if he 891 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:15,839 Speaker 1: wants one. That's the guy he got too expensive too late. 892 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 1: It's not too late. They just the way because of 893 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,880 Speaker 1: the Wander situation. You can't just not sign it. I 894 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,919 Speaker 1: think that it just has to be post sale. They're 895 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 1: not going to do anything until the sale is complete. 896 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 1: Then they can for that. If and when it's true 897 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,760 Speaker 1: to kratsats, what do you have for us today? 898 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 2: Just really the most random hat I could have picked up. 899 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 2: I like it. Guardians, great logo fell short this year? 900 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:47,800 Speaker 2: Great logo. 901 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 1: You don't like it? I feel like it has like 902 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,319 Speaker 1: an eighties nineties video game. 903 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 2: I think they did a good job. 904 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 3: I mean, I really like the Indians logo, but I 905 00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 3: think they did a good job for what they. 906 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 1: Had, Yeah, for what they were working with. Do you 907 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 1: like the name Guardians? 908 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 2: Really? 909 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 1: No? I don't either. I remember when they announced that. 910 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,359 Speaker 1: I was like, that's what we're going with. You had 911 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 1: a chance to do whatever you want. 912 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 2: They should have done the Steamers or the Spiders. 913 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:18,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a cute story behind the whole Guardian thing, right, 914 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,839 Speaker 1: the bridge whatever. But I don't know how many kids 915 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 1: are actually looking that up. Non kids don't look up 916 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:26,280 Speaker 1: anything anyway. 917 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 2: When Guardians of the Galaxies. 918 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 1: Do people even know how to write? 919 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 3: And they took it from a roller derby team. 920 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 1: That's true. Bet MGM players get you a MLB parlay 921 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 1: boost token and use that token at a parlay wager 922 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 1: made up of entirely MLB bets to that bet slip 923 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 1: activate the token and score yourself extra winnings at that 924 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 1: wager hits gambling problem more concern called hundred gambler