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Speaker 1: Hi. This is Laura Vandercamp. I'm a mother of five,

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Speaker 1: an author, journalist, and speaker. And this is Sarah hart Unger.

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Speaker 1: I'm a mother of three, a practicing physician and blogger.

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Speaker 1: On the side, we are two working parents who love

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Speaker 1: our careers and our families. Welcome to best of both worlds.

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Speaker 1: Here we talk about how real women manage work, family,

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Speaker 1: and time for fun, from figuring out childcare to mapping

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Speaker 1: out long term career goals. We want you to get

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Speaker 1: the most out of life. Welcome to best of both worlds.

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Speaker 1: This is episode one hundred and eighty eight, which is

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Speaker 1: airing in early March of twenty twenty one. I will

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Speaker 1: be interviewing doctor Christine Coe, who is the co host

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Speaker 1: of the Edit Your Life podcast. She's also an author

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Speaker 1: and a social media person and all around, you know,

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Speaker 1: great person. I don't know how to describe. She has

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Speaker 1: a lot of different roles and that's one of the

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Speaker 1: things we talk about in this episode because she's definitely

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Speaker 1: in to the concept of minimalism. She also has a

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Speaker 1: very career and so we'll talk about how that plays

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Speaker 1: in and how very busy people can organize all of

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Speaker 1: those things without getting too crazy in any given one

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Speaker 1: of them. But yeah, Sarah's been listening to the Edit

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Speaker 1: Your Life podcast that Christine co hosts, and so we

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Speaker 1: were thinking of some of our favorite podcast listening hacks.

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Speaker 1: Is that what I'm supposed to transition into that? Sure

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Speaker 1: podcast listening hacks? Well, and you could also mention that

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Speaker 1: you're going to be on Edit your Life. I am,

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Speaker 1: I am, I'm able to by the time. Well, I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure quite how the order is going with all this,

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Speaker 1: know if we when we see that come up as well,

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Speaker 1: because that would be a fun mash up for those

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Speaker 1: if you don't listen to Edit your Life to get

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Speaker 1: an introduction. But yeah, like, okay, so will you shared

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Speaker 1: my screenshot podcast hack I believe on Before Breakfast? I did.

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Speaker 1: It's actually today's episode when we're recording this in February.

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Speaker 1: But what are the chances of that? That's so cool? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so share what the hack is. Yeah, so my screenshot

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Speaker 1: hack is like the dumbest thing ever. But I just realized, like,

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Speaker 1: cause a lot of times I'll listen to a podcast

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Speaker 1: that person knows the secret to the universe. I must

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Speaker 1: capture this brilliant idea and so but you're like, but

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Speaker 1: realize if I unlock my phone, I can actually screenshot

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Speaker 1: so I can actually go back to that specific moment.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I maybe disappointed him find out that it was

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Speaker 1: more like the running high that maybe, but I've done

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Speaker 1: that a few times. Most recently, I've been doing it

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Speaker 1: on my Sunday long run. I like to listen to

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Speaker 1: and I think it's I just love that podcast, like

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Speaker 1: I like it. I love Freagonomics, but I like this

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Speaker 1: even more. And I'm always like, that was a brilliant insight,

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Speaker 1: so I love it. Well. Screenshots are good in general.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just anything that you aren't entirely sure

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Speaker 1: I feel like Apple needs to get a little better

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Speaker 1: so that you could google your your screenshots, Like if

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like that functionality is there on my

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Speaker 1: idea from Sarah. Yes, exactly. We need to be able

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Speaker 1: to search our screenshots, all right. What speed do you

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Speaker 1: listen to? Generally one point five unless it's a music podcast.

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Speaker 1: and you know, instead of you having to get up

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Speaker 1: all the time, it's you know, them taking on that stuff.

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Speaker 1: And then I think also I would say, you know,

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Speaker 1: with kids, you have to kind of remind them. So

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Speaker 1: got my knickers in a bunch about I said, okay,

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Speaker 1: when the dishwasher is clearly empty, like or there's room

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Speaker 1: in it, instead of putting the dish on the counter

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Speaker 1: above the dishwasher, open the door and put it in.

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Speaker 1: It's such a simple thing. It's such a simple thing.

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Speaker 1: But it needed a few reminders. And then my nine

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Speaker 1: year old was like, got it, okay, but it did

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Speaker 1: take it. You know, you have to remind kids because

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Speaker 1: it's not it is just not going to be top

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Speaker 1: of mind for them. But remind do a couple of reminders,

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Speaker 1: and I think after a week or so, like they will,

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Speaker 1: you know, start to get in a rhythm with it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now that point from our mutual friend kJ who has

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Speaker 1: been a guest on this podcast as well. But her

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Speaker 1: point that it's two separate things of like doing chores

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Speaker 1: and doing chores without being reminded, And if you let

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Speaker 1: go of the second part, you can definitely get the

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Speaker 1: chores done. But you know, so don't hold out that

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Speaker 1: as like what you need to make happen, right that

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Speaker 1: everyone does chores without being reminded, because it may never happen,

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Speaker 1: and then you're just never getting the chores done. So

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Speaker 1: you know, it's okay, you'll get mind people. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: developmentally appropriate that they're going to just need reminders. So

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Speaker 1: just remember that it's not like something's wrong with them.

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Speaker 1: It's not like they're trying to frustrate you. It's just

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Speaker 1: their kids. We had a fun little life skills moment

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Speaker 1: the other day of everyone's sheets and covers were washed

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Speaker 1: and I was like, I do not want to put

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Speaker 1: these back on anyone's bed. I do not feel like

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Speaker 1: doing it. And so everyone was charged with doing it themselves,

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Speaker 1: and it took people you know, an interesting amount time

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Speaker 1: to figure out how to put a top sheet on,

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Speaker 1: how to put a top sheet on, or how to

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Speaker 1: stuff a you know, douvet type thing back to cover. Oh,

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Speaker 1: we have that same experience with the Yeah, it is

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Speaker 1: a little confusing, I mean, which is why I don't

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Speaker 1: like doing it. But I feel like I shouldn't be

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Speaker 1: the only person who Absolutely, I'm so glad you did that. That, like,

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Speaker 1: I think will help them develop a good appreciation of

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Speaker 1: what goes into actually doing the sheets in the laundry.

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Speaker 1: It is my least favorite, I will admit. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: exactly so Christine. When this is all over, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure I did an erridate on this,

478
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Speaker 1: but you know, eventually life is going to return something

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Speaker 1: to normal. What are you most looking forward to doing?

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I mean I think that in a

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Speaker 1: really simple way, I would just say, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: hugging people I care about, like my mother. I do.

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Speaker 1: You know. It's interesting I thought a lot because I

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Speaker 1: I before pandemic, I traveled all the time for work,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes it would be you know, more extended trips.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it would be like the day, the day trip

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Speaker 1: in and out of DC, And this has made me rethink,

488
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Speaker 1: like is that really necessary, like the day trip when

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Speaker 1: we could otherwise kind of conference call in, Like wouldn't

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Speaker 1: that be sort of better for the planet and our

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Speaker 1: schedules and our fatigue and everything. So it is making

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Speaker 1: me rethink some of that stuff. But I do you know,

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Speaker 1: miss travel in general, and you know, seeing people and

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Speaker 1: collaborating in person. That is definitely you know, one thing

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Speaker 1: that I miss a lot. Yeah, me too. So let's

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Speaker 1: just do a quick run through of a day in

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Speaker 1: the life of Christine. So you know, most of us

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Speaker 1: aren't really going anywhere these so there's there's sort of

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Speaker 1: less back and forth, but you're you're doing your yoga

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Speaker 1: amid amid the laundry and what happens after that? Uh? Yeah, Well,

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Speaker 1: so I usually get up around I'm actually, you know, Christy,

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Speaker 1: I'm fairly regimented, but I usually get up around six thirty.

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Speaker 1: I need to have my coffee. I just have one

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Speaker 1: cup in the morning, but I really need to have it.

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Speaker 1: My life is happier if I set it up the

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Speaker 1: night before. Yeah, I get up usually at seven am.

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Speaker 1: I start work. My husband sort of transitions in and

508
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Speaker 1: you know, gets the kid settled and helps with the

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Speaker 1: dog and all this. I do my yoga at seven thirty,

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Speaker 1: and I'm talking about like sometimes it's ten minutes, sometimes

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Speaker 1: it's twenty minutes. It doesn't have to be. It's you know,

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Speaker 1: whatever the practice is that day. But it's never like

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Speaker 1: an hour. Is it a program or like you do

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Speaker 1: it a specific I use yoga with Adrian, which kJ

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Speaker 1: introduced me to, and I'm just following along with a

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Speaker 1: sort of playlist for you know, the month that she

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Speaker 1: put together. So it's kind of like, I guess my

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Speaker 1: point is, I think a lot of times people get

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Speaker 1: in their mind that in order to take care of

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Speaker 1: themselves they need to have an hour, and it's not

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Speaker 1: always the case. It could be some ten minutes is

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Speaker 1: better than no minutes. And then I'm basically round robbining

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Speaker 1: with different client projects all morning. Morning is my sort

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Speaker 1: of best time up to lunch to really really dig

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Speaker 1: in with things. Also because pandemic dog is usually napping,

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Speaker 1: take him out for lunch, walk and then it's like

527
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Speaker 1: just more juggling through the end of the day. But

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Speaker 1: I will say that in the evening it's super important

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Speaker 1: to me to not be working in the evening actually,

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Speaker 1: which is kind of the opposite of what a lot

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Speaker 1: of entrepreneurs. Entrepreneurs do so I can connect with my husband,

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Speaker 1: who I really like, and my kid. You know, we

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Speaker 1: prioritize reading time and sort of cuddling time, and then

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Speaker 1: I am like in bed with a book by like

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Speaker 1: nine point thirty. I just I love sleeping. I'm like

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Speaker 1: an ideally, could I have nine hours of sleep? Please?

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Speaker 1: A night person sounds really nice and I'm glad to

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Speaker 1: hear that. You like your husband. Yeah, it's ten eleven

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Speaker 1: months into a pandemic sheltering and race. Yeah, I know

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Speaker 1: that is I have thought about that. That is a

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Speaker 1: real gift. You know, our family, like we've been hanging

542
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Speaker 1: in okay, Like it's not easy all the time. I

543
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Speaker 1: was sort of the biggest disaster in the fall, just

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Speaker 1: like trying to get used to the new schedule. But

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Speaker 1: you know, I think people are figuring it out and

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Speaker 1: it's it's not been easy, but I think we can

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Speaker 1: do hard things. As they say we can do hard things. Well,

548
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Speaker 1: we always end with a love of the week. So

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Speaker 1: this is something that is really cool for you right now.

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Speaker 1: Could be a book, album, podcast, you know, object tool

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Speaker 1: productivity thing. So what's what's exciting for you right now? Christine?

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, well, I have two things, but one's pretty hippish,

553
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Speaker 1: so I'll share. I'll share a little more accessible one,

554
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Speaker 1: but it is I have a paper newspaper subscription, like

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Speaker 1: delivered to the door, which was a sort of gift

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Speaker 1: from a good friend of mine because my friend Kasey

557
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Speaker 1: and I had been joking online about newspapers and actually,

558
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Speaker 1: like your fitted sheet or you're making the bed example,

559
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Speaker 1: I had been joking about how funny it was the

560
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Speaker 1: first time I tried to the first time I watched

561
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Speaker 1: my kids try to fold a newspaper back together, and

562
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Speaker 1: so of like literally thirty seconds later, I got an

563
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Speaker 1: email saying, You've just received a subscription to the Boston Globe.

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Speaker 1: And so it turns out my friend, as a lovely gift,

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Speaker 1: had given a subscription to the Globe. And I will say,

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Speaker 1: which is, you know, the local city paper. I will

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Speaker 1: say that having a print newspaper has been so fascinating

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Speaker 1: and everybody in the family interacts with it, and we

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Speaker 1: talk about the newspaper and we like play games in

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Speaker 1: the newspaper. So if you're looking to shake things up

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Speaker 1: a little bit. It's been a really delightful old school

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Speaker 1: way to sort of connect and you know, also stay

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Speaker 1: tuned into things that are happening in your neighborhood. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I could say my love of the week maybe the

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Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal. Then we subscribe to that, and it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's fun just to see something that you didn't

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Speaker 1: click on right like you weren't. There's a bit more

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Speaker 1: serendipity to it than all the algorithms online. It's exactly

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Speaker 1: what you want to see and then know you're going

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Speaker 1: to want to see. But then you're reading the newspaper

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Speaker 1: and it's like, here's a story about Neanderthals, which I

582
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Speaker 1: joke about because that set me off on like a

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Speaker 1: six month reading spree of like stories of ancient humanity.

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Speaker 1: But that's what happened from an article. So you know,

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Speaker 1: there's just that serendipitous element that's that's really cool. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and every now and then, sorry, my last comment on

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Speaker 1: that is just that every now and then it might

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Speaker 1: create a connection to another relationship. Like I was just

589
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Speaker 1: reading the paper this week. I saw a friend's food

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Speaker 1: company featured in the food section of the paper and

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Speaker 1: I you know, shared it on Instagram stories and tag

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Speaker 1: them and they were so excited. And I'm going to

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Speaker 1: mail the paper clipping. Oh, I mean, how can you

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Speaker 1: mail a paper clipping? Yes, that's awesome. So there's somethings

595
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Speaker 1: just so lovely in old school. I mean, we are

596
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Speaker 1: in like old fashioned times right now. So let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's all right, everyone subscribe to a

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Speaker 1: paper clip articles, mail them to each other. Yeah, you'll

599
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: probably feel happier. That's our happiness and productivity for today.

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Speaker 1: All right. Well, Christine, thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Tell our listeners where they can find you. Well, if

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Speaker 1: you want to learn more about all the different projects,

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Speaker 1: I think the easiest place to go is christineco dot com.

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Speaker 1: I'm doctor Christine Coe on the socials. And of course

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Speaker 1: if you're in your podcast app already Edit your Life

606
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Speaker 1: is the podcast I do that is probably very synergetic

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Speaker 1: with or is synergetic with what you guys do. And

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Speaker 1: then hello Relationships my podcast with my therapist husband. We're

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Speaker 1: coming up on a new season soon, so that's also

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Speaker 1: a fun listen. Excellent. Well, I'm sure we'll I'll check

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Speaker 1: you out. Thanks for coming on, Christine, thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: All right, well that was our episode, our interview with

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Speaker 1: Christine co But we have a question from potentially a

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Speaker 1: budding podcaster. What do you think, Sarah? I do I

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Speaker 1: don't know, but that was my hypop six. So I'm like, well,

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Speaker 1: why else would they want to know what to do?

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Speaker 1: But this came from Instagram. It's from somebody named Camille,

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Speaker 1: so I don't know what her podcast might be, but

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Speaker 1: she wrote how far in advance do you plan your episodes? Well,

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Speaker 1: the answer has changed a little bit. We've gotten a

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Speaker 1: bit more into batch recording, especially as we decided to

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Speaker 1: divvy up the interviews a bit more that it turns

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Speaker 1: out it just makes more sense I think to do

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Speaker 1: a one on one interview. It's easier to manage the conversation,

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Speaker 1: to direct the flow of questions, and then it's easier

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Speaker 1: for scheduling because we don't have to try to strong

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Speaker 1: arm guests to come on during the time where both

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Speaker 1: of us are available. So it just opens up the

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Speaker 1: possibilities a bit more in terms of when we can

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Speaker 1: get various guests and offering time to them. But then

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Speaker 1: you know, we try to do maybe two guests a

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Speaker 1: month and two US episodes a month, and we can

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Speaker 1: record the US episodes at the same time. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: we try not to get too far ahead because we

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Speaker 1: know that there's something about podcasting where you want the

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Speaker 1: content to be fresh and kind of of the moment.

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Speaker 1: But it's your saying you kind of have to balance

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Speaker 1: that because if you try to be too fresh, then

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Speaker 1: you're going to really get into some stress in terms

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Speaker 1: of like the production timeline. And we do always have

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Speaker 1: Thursday of the week before, so there's always at least

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Speaker 1: a little bit of blag time, yeah, just so our

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Speaker 1: production people can can get it sounding better and you know,

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Speaker 1: uploaded to the appropriate places with the ads in it

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Speaker 1: and so forth. I have a rhythm with Before Breakfast,

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Speaker 1: which is my other podcast, where I send in a

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Speaker 1: lineup to my producer on Monday for the following Monday

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Speaker 1: to Friday week. So if Monday of the week we

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Speaker 1: were recording, this was February fifteenth, so on the fifteenth

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Speaker 1: I sent in the lineup for February twenty second to

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Speaker 1: twenty six, which means that I have generally recorded the

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Speaker 1: twenty second to twenty sixth, then by the twelfth, because

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Speaker 1: I would have done it the previous week, So it's

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Speaker 1: about ten to fourteen days ahead of time at least,

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Speaker 1: and then depending on when the week I recorded, it

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Speaker 1: might be more like, you know, fourteen to sixteen days

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Speaker 1: ahead of time. And the reason to do this I've found,

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Speaker 1: I mean, partly it's just with the daily podcast. If

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Speaker 1: I was trying to do it every day, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I would you know, there's no efficiencies to be gained

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Speaker 1: there if you're not batching. But it would also just

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Speaker 1: be you know, maddening if stuff went wrong in my

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Speaker 1: life but I couldn't get to doing it. But I

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Speaker 1: think that that's it's enough ahead of time that it's

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Speaker 1: set and I can think about it and you know,

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Speaker 1: not have to come up with something right in the

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Speaker 1: moment because I'm pressed for time. But on the other hand,

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Speaker 1: it's not so far ahead that it's like, Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: I've recorded September and February, and who knows if what

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Speaker 1: the world will be like then Sarah and I had

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Speaker 1: to wind up shelving was it like one or two

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Speaker 1: episodes that we recorded last year in February around this time,

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Speaker 1: because then you know, we're like getting out the door

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Speaker 1: in the morning. How do we get out the door

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Speaker 1: in the morning, And then nobody was getting out the

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Speaker 1: door in the morning. Yeah, you can't. There are certain things,

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Speaker 1: and you know there are probably maybe someday, if something

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Speaker 1: terrible happens, I'd rather skip a week than air something

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Speaker 1: completely ridiculous. So hopefully nothing will happen with that magnitude,

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Speaker 1: But we shall say. I mean, life comes at you fast.

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Speaker 1: But you know, we then did a few bonus COVID

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Speaker 1: episodes too as we were adjusting to it, so I

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Speaker 1: guess it all comes out in the wash. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it's almost always better to be somewhat ahead,

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Speaker 1: because the upsides of not scrambling are more than the

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Speaker 1: downsides of occasionally having to re record when the world

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Speaker 1: does get away from you. So that's my advice. There,

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Speaker 1: a little bit ahead, not too far ahead. You do

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Speaker 1: best like plans in batches, though, right, sometimes I try

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Speaker 1: to do it at least a week ahead. The episodes

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Speaker 1: are shorter so it doesn't feel as high pressure. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: if I can think of some review and topic to

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Speaker 1: talk about, like sometimes I'll just do one at a time.

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Speaker 1: So actually, yeah, I think I do less batching for that,

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Speaker 1: maybe because it's just one person so it feels more

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Speaker 1: low key if I'm just jumping on. I have batched

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Speaker 1: my interviews, though I did like two back to back

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Speaker 1: interviews last week. It was like, yeah, all right, well

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Speaker 1: all right, love of a week. I didn't put mine.

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Speaker 1: I didn't put myne on, but I did write one down.

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Speaker 1: Do you have one, I'll come up with something, go

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Speaker 1: for it. Okay, awesome. Well maybe you did one with Christine.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. But mine is Google Drive because it

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Speaker 1: is a really really lovely way to share like spreadsheets

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Speaker 1: and stuff. And we have like a very functioning one

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Speaker 1: right now for this podcast, which only took us like

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Speaker 1: a couple of years to do. But it's working really nice.

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Speaker 1: Sarah has been in the spreadsheet a bit more than

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Speaker 1: I have. It's good, but it's good to have a

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Speaker 1: podcast host who's very organized. But you know what, it's

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Speaker 1: great to have something shared where you know that the

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Speaker 1: other person can look at any time if needed. So

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Speaker 1: it's true better than emailing Excel back and forth too.

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Speaker 1: I use Google Docs for some things. I've done that

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Speaker 1: for a couple of bigger projects now and I need

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Speaker 1: to have multiple people viewing something. I mean a lot

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Speaker 1: of this I write. It's just me really until I

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Speaker 1: turn it in, so it's I never write stuff in

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Speaker 1: Google Docs. I do it in whatever the default Apple

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Speaker 1: Pages is on my laptop, and then I just cut

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Speaker 1: and paste over to Google Docs. If I need to

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Speaker 1: have a sharing system with multiple people, we'll see how

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Speaker 1: that evolves over time. But that's just you know what

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Speaker 1: it works for me right now? All right, Well, this

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Speaker 1: has been best of both worlds. I've been interviewing doctor

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Speaker 1: Christine co in their interview section. We've been talking a

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Speaker 1: lot about podcasting and the rest of the episode. We

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Speaker 1: will be back next week with more on making work

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Speaker 1: in life fit together. Thanks for listening. You can find

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Speaker 1: me Sarah at the shoebox dot com or at the

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Speaker 1: Underscore Shoebox on Instagram, and you can find me Laura

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Speaker 1: at Laura vandercam dot com. This has been the best

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Speaker 1: of both worlds podcasts. Please join us next time for

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Speaker 1: more on making work and life work together. Yes,