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Speaker 1: Hello, gorgeous, it's La La Kent. Welcome to untraditionally, Lala. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I love that that tool. Welcome back to untraditionally Lala.

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Speaker 1: The bonus episode, we have Valentine's Day right around the corner,

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Speaker 1: and I know that so many of us sit here

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Speaker 1: and tweak out if we don't have a partner or

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Speaker 1: a person. I don't think men think like that. Maybe

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Speaker 1: they do. I I won't put them on the back

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Speaker 1: burner like they don't have feelings. But a lot of

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Speaker 1: women are like what do I do on this day?

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Speaker 1: Because it is a holiday for lovers, But for me,

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Speaker 1: it's always been Easton's birthday, So I've never really about

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Speaker 1: it as like that type of holiday.

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Speaker 2: I know, I've always felt so bad about it. Why

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Speaker 2: because like, you know, you just start to feel bad,

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Speaker 2: like i'd go over to my buddy's house that there's

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Speaker 2: some you know, I'd never tell just to let everybody know,

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Speaker 2: now you know, Yeah, I don't tell anybody my birthday,

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Speaker 2: don't post about it, don't say anything. I don't care

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Speaker 2: about it. It's everybody's got one, you know. It's like

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Speaker 2: a butthole moving on, you know. But like when you

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Speaker 2: go over to friend's houses and like be hanging out.

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Speaker 2: Like there were times where, like, you know, my birthday

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Speaker 2: would be coming up and I would go to a

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Speaker 2: friend's house and they would be like, oh, what are

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Speaker 2: you going to do? Because it came up, and like

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Speaker 2: the mom and dad were like, yeah, we're going to

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Speaker 2: do this, this and this, and I was like, damn,

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Speaker 2: my mom and dad could be doing that, but I'm

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Speaker 2: taking it.

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Speaker 1: I want to.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Let me just have my depressing thought.

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Speaker 1: You bitch, you're still tweaking off the vape icy but no,

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Speaker 1: I just somebody who is a mother. Now, if my

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Speaker 1: baby were born on Valentine, you're well, you're kind of

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Speaker 2: You're maybe's birthday is a day after yours.

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Speaker 1: And I was really hoping that she came on my

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Speaker 1: birthday because I was like, what a wonderful way to

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Speaker 1: celebrate my birthday with her is now going to be.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad she didn't though, because of my thoughts, because.

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Speaker 1: She doesn't want to share it with me.

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Speaker 2: Will not share it. But maybe it's not sharing. I

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Speaker 2: don't care that. I feel like I'm taking away and

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Speaker 2: she could grow up and be like I took a

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Speaker 2: day away from my mom that she very much deserves.

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Speaker 2: Oh do youee know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: You're a very selfless person, and I understand where your

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Speaker 2: That's why I don't love my birthday because I feel

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Speaker 2: like I took a lot of love away from Mom.

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Speaker 1: And are you gonna cry? Yeah? Oh love you? You

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Speaker 1: do think I worked out this morning song? That is right?

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I do feel like that, you know I don't.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well you are You're the person who always says

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Speaker 1: that you have to separate your feelings from facts, because

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Speaker 1: your feelings are not facts. So now I'm going to

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Speaker 1: point this out to you true and I'm glad you

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Speaker 1: said that. This is how you're feeling. And I think

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Speaker 1: it's beautiful that your mind even goes there. It just

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Speaker 1: goes to show, like, what a kind and beautiful heart

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Speaker 1: you have is thinking about Mom and Dad celebrating, but

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Speaker 1: the fact is that you're their son, and what a

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Speaker 1: beautiful way to celebrate the holiday of love. That's the

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Speaker 1: whole point of it.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: I know then, this child that they brought into the

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Speaker 1: world out of love and they celebrated like every Wednesday

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Speaker 1: Tuesday they go and do something. You just had date night.

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Speaker 2: You know, you just have that feeling. But now I'm

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Speaker 2: crying more because my dad's gone and my mom doesn't

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Speaker 2: have a Valentine.

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Speaker 1: You're Valentine. You already know that. She tells you that.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of happy tears now, No, but that like

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Speaker 2: that's why I don't love my birthday and things like that,

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Speaker 2: but I'm happy it is when it is. Though I

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Speaker 2: so I'm like, oh, it's always yea, yeah, lots.

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Speaker 1: Of yummy candy. And even when dad was around Easton,

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Speaker 1: Mom always said like, I I celebrate Valentine's Day with

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Speaker 1: my forever Valentine.

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Speaker 2: Which is you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, and I'm glad that you know. I'm happy, And

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Speaker 2: there's just I have those thoughts and those are my

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Speaker 2: but then again, well on the fifteenth, ye old bags right,

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Speaker 2: yeah totally, but no, I just yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't want you to think that way at all.

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Speaker 1: And I think once you become a parent, you will

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Speaker 1: realize how whatever day it is is you you're just

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Speaker 1: so excited to celebrate that.

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Speaker 2: If anybody else with a birthday on the fourteenth feels

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Speaker 2: like this, or even like on Christmas or like something,

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Speaker 2: do you feel like, damn, I'm taking away if you.

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Speaker 1: Were born on Christmas, Yes, you're fucking taking away.

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Speaker 2: Because I know people.

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Speaker 1: And I hate now you're messing with Jesus's birthday and

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Speaker 1: that I will not s people who.

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Speaker 2: Are like and it is my birthday and we will

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Speaker 2: do what I want to do.

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Speaker 1: Because I don't like that either day. By the way,

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Speaker 1: no one is ever if you have a birthday, I

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Speaker 1: do feel badly like you dated a girl who had

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Speaker 1: a birthday on the twenty fourth of And I get

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Speaker 1: that because it's not the funnest day to have that,

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Speaker 1: But I just I don't think about things like that.

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Speaker 1: It's like, okay, well, just one more thing to celebrate.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to know what I was thinking about?

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Speaker 2: And how sad? Tell me my ex I'm not my

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Speaker 2: ex's ex. Probably how fucked up? I'm not my ex's X.

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Speaker 1: Like, oh, like she's dated so many guys since you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'm not like how funny? Like when I

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Speaker 1: I'm not that I'm not her ex.

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Speaker 2: You're one of her exes, yes, but like the most

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Speaker 2: recent think about how she dated since well, yes.

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Speaker 1: You're not even supposed to be dating until a year

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Speaker 1: into sobriety. Let's get you grounded on your feet.

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Speaker 2: I didn't say I wanted to date. I was thinking

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Speaker 2: about that.

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Speaker 1: I want you to want to date. Since we're thinking

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Speaker 1: about love. There is a girl that you is cute.

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Speaker 2: I like, I'm talking to girls. I'm in no position

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Speaker 2: to date, and I have told them that, like I, yes,

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Speaker 2: I do have to go out and talk to women

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Speaker 2: and be a part of society. I have to fuck,

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Speaker 2: but I do tell them like, hey, I'm not in

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Speaker 2: a position to be in a relationship. But that's what

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Speaker 2: this is you're wanting. Like, then I have to like,

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Speaker 2: you're just wanting to getting this belt with a lot of.

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Speaker 1: Notches on it. You're not supposed to be doing any

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Speaker 1: of that in your first year of sobriety.

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Speaker 2: I am talking to women, I'm not talking to I

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Speaker 2: cannot date.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not telling you how to run your program.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying what it says you're supposed to do,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not here to judge anybody on how they're

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Speaker 2: I'm not dating.

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Speaker 1: You don't know what you're doing dumping some rocks off.

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Speaker 1: I know that's not true because if you were, you

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Speaker 2: Sticking to sobriety. I'm talking. It's weird though, because I'll

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Speaker 2: talk to girls and I'm like, oh god, I how

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Speaker 2: I did ghost a lot?

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Speaker 1: By the way, you need to work on that. Then

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Speaker 1: I don't co sign on that at all. I find

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Speaker 1: that to be a very toxic trait and very young minded.

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Speaker 1: Like yes, you can go down the line.

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Speaker 2: Like we have been talking for months or weeks or anything.

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Speaker 2: It'll be like, hey, how are you? Oh wow, great,

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Speaker 2: what have you been doing? I see you live in LA.

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Speaker 1: I don't respond, okay, do you do you? You do you?

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Speaker 2: Because that's where I'm like, if I keep talking to

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Speaker 2: this person, what comes from it? I have to go

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Speaker 2: and grab coffee. I have to do something I'm not

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Speaker 2: supposed to and for me to go, I loved this conversation,

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Speaker 2: but I'm sorry if I were to conte it, I

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Speaker 2: at that point, Like, so, like, at what point is

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Speaker 2: ghosting and we haven't talked where it's long enough because

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Speaker 2: if I did talk to you long enough, you would

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Speaker 2: know my situation and I could happily tell you like

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Speaker 2: I can't do it, and you would have to respect that.

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Speaker 2: But yes, I just don't right back to a lot

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Speaker 2: of people because I'm like, Okay, you're close, you're in la.

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Speaker 2: I could see what is coming of it if I

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Speaker 1: So I just don't respond. Okay, I think that's better.

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Speaker 2: I had to. It's for everybody. I'm not ghosting because

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Speaker 2: that is small minded, is childish. Worked on that, but

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Speaker 2: now I'm in that point and it's tough. I'm still

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Speaker 2: like rocking a hard spot of like how do I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally get that, Like what do I even say?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's but like I want a Valentine date or something,

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Speaker 2: not even well it's not even for the birthday, but

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Speaker 2: like I would like to go on a date to

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Speaker 2: know I know how to still talk to women.

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Speaker 1: You know. Okay, so that let's talk about this because

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Speaker 1: you have said you want to celebrate your birthday, which

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Speaker 1: is Valentine's date in Utah. I'm just along for the

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Speaker 1: to go, I want to.

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Speaker 2: I want family.

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Speaker 1: But because we don't get enough time together as it is, well,

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Speaker 1: you guys are my friends. I know we have so

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Speaker 1: much fun together, all of us.

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Speaker 2: But no, I would like, uh, and it's not like

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Speaker 2: I want to go on out Valentine's Night and go.

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Speaker 2: It's like, no, I just like to talk to a

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Speaker 2: girl and be like, hey, let's go celebrate a night

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Speaker 2: of say Valentine and fucking go and grab some food

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Speaker 2: by the beach, tacos or something. But yes, I would like, yes,

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Speaker 2: that's the other day. That would be the perfect date

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Speaker 2: for me, right, And that's but I want to go

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Speaker 2: on a date. And you understand, like, yes, I can't

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Speaker 2: see it's a heart, it's a rock and a hard spot, and.

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Speaker 1: I want to do it different because where lapse.

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Speaker 2: Came off of me having one identity and one identity,

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Speaker 2: one identity only, and it was so sober AA meetings

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Speaker 2: and obviously it didn't work.

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Speaker 1: Can I step in here? Your mindset is very all

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Speaker 1: over the place and what I would like you to do,

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Speaker 1: because you're doing what I have done a many of time,

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Speaker 1: where you go down many different avenues to try and

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Speaker 1: talk yourself into dating because that is what you want,

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Speaker 1: right but then you try to actively talk yourself out

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Speaker 1: couldn't do those things and my subriety. Okay, so let's

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Speaker 1: just make it clear cut. Yes, Easton at some point

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's just let it be.

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Speaker 1: What does one do? Let's get out of our own heads.

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Speaker 1: For all the people out there who are spending Valentine's Day, solow,

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Speaker 2: That's easy for me because I usually spend my birthdays

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Speaker 1: And here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: I find Valentine's Day to be the biggest, like the

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Speaker 2: I don't even think it's if you love Valentine's Day,

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Speaker 2: I love a good movie, ice cream and like Chinese food.

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Speaker 2: That's my go to for my Valentine's Day.

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Speaker 2: Cocktails, watch brides mabe if you drink, make some cocktails.

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Speaker 1: Heyday, Watch John Tucker Must Die. Oh, yes, you know,

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Speaker 2: It's me that one.

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Speaker 2: No, that's I do like Valentine's Day. I don't love

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Speaker 1: That you've cried about it and you've been very upset.

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Speaker 1: No, that's not it's friends. It's Joey eating the trifle

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Speaker 2: I like me good, damn good. Oh, throw me up. Gosh,

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Speaker 2: what do they do on Valentine's Day? What's friends? I'm

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Have they ever they do?

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Speaker 2: They'll do? They do a Valentine I watch.

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Speaker 1: Every year, obviously, any of them that celebrate I no Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 1: I remember one year I had a really fun Valentine's Day,

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Speaker 1: the best Valentine's Day ever. They make a mixtape, Chandler,

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Speaker 1: they have to make homemade gifts for each other, Chandler

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Speaker 1: you that mixtape or Valentine's dape? What's a good Valentine's Day? Gift.

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Speaker 1: What would you give to a girl?

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I always gave like gift cards because I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd give them flowers and like either ear rings

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Speaker 2: it's Valentine's Day. It's just a date happens to be

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Speaker 1: I can never go on a first day yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going on a first date on Valentine on

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. You guys, write in right in.

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Speaker 1: I want to know, because that would give me bubble guts. No,

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Speaker 1: I would have a full panic attack.

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Speaker 2: Well that and I would need a whole leader of peptoto.

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Speaker 1: Yeah to calm the bubble guts. Thank you for tuning

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Speaker 1: into another bonus episode of Untraditionally, Lala. I hope you

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Speaker 1: have a wonderful day, a wonderful v Day coming up,

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Speaker 1: and we are going to catch you on Wednesday and

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Speaker 1: again next week. Bye bye,