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Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast Podcast. Pot all right,

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Speaker 1: here we go.

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Speaker 2: Fifteen funny, twenty five, thirty thirty five, forty, forty five, fifty.

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Speaker 3: And the kickers block the college football world standers, good bye,

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, big stumbled and football, the lateral turn,

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Speaker 3: them up the field to night. It's not the sade

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Speaker 2: What's up the generation? Welcome to the Big Bets on

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Speaker 2: Campus Podcast. This is the College Football Pac twelve betting Preview.

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Speaker 2: I'm stuck. You're joining me as always this column Wilson

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Speaker 2: twelve not twelve teams to get to. It's very nice.

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Speaker 2: So it's actually numerically accurate, but won't be for long.

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Speaker 1: Conn.

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Speaker 2: You're ready to talk some Neon Beyon, Dion Sanders, Dion Sanders.

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Speaker 3: Dion Sandersleon Dion saluting as he goes.

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Speaker 1: What did you know he'd find? The one is my

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Speaker 1: favorite conference of all Power five. It's not even close.

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Speaker 1: There's so much offense, there's so many characters, a head coach,

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Speaker 1: there's so many moving parts. You and I can't even

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Speaker 1: cut a podcast about Colorado making a grand exit? Are

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Speaker 1: the Bretts reporting on us? And I don't know where

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be on TV, what channel, or where I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be streaming this damn conference, but man, the quality

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm extreme excited for the PAC twelve this year.

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Speaker 2: You can't say that about every year, but I think

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Speaker 2: that's the strongest the league has been in a while.

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Speaker 2: Six teams finished in the top twenty last year. Just

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Speaker 2: like the betting prevy that we just got no more

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Speaker 2: divisions in the PAC twelve, which I love. So that

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Speaker 2: impacts how we are going to crack the code on

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Speaker 2: figuring out who will play in the Pac twelve championship.

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Speaker 2: Some a little lay of the land. There are three

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Speaker 2: new head coaches Arizona, State, Stanford, and Colorado, six new

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Speaker 2: offensive coordinators, five new defensive coordinators, six potential new quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: That's path the teams. Four teams have the same head coach,

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Speaker 2: offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, and quarterback. That's Washington, USC, Utah,

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Speaker 2: and Arizona. Three teams are brand new, wipe the slate clean,

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Speaker 2: new head coach offense cordner, defense coordinator and quarterback. That's

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Speaker 2: Arizona State, Stanford and Colorado. Yeah. The biggest question when

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Speaker 2: it comes to the Pac twelve as always, can they

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Speaker 2: avoid cannibalization and finally get a team into the college

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Speaker 2: football playoffs once again. Utah is actually looking for a

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Speaker 2: three peat in the Pack coach be the first team

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Speaker 2: to do so since Oregon did it between two thousand

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Speaker 2: and nine and twenty eleven. It's worth noting that some

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Speaker 2: teams have five Pack twelve home games, some teams have four.

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Speaker 2: The teams with five conference home games usc Utah, Oregon,

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Speaker 2: four cal Arizona, Colorado, Washington State, Ucla, and Oregon State.

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Speaker 2: You'll notice that most of the top teams in the

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Speaker 2: scheduled losers were Cal, Arizona, Cal and Arizona. The schedule

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Speaker 2: winners probably Oregon State, which we'll get to. And then

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Speaker 2: there's five I think right now. Currently some are closer

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Speaker 2: a strong quarterback conference this year with you know Delora obviously,

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams probably number one in the draft, bo Nick

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Speaker 1: Bow tie boom like a powder keg in your mouth,

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Speaker 2: You know cam Rising and his injuries status. We have

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Speaker 2: I mean, some really strong quarterbacks and then some quarterback battles.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to all that starting with the top of

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Speaker 2: the league, and let's start with UFC win total over

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Speaker 2: Pac twelve at bet MGM, the official sponsor of Big

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Speaker 2: Bets on Campus podcast. We know that we hated USC

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Speaker 2: last year. They drove us nuts with a plus twenty

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Speaker 1: Fans of Cliff Kingsbury, So I mean to.

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Speaker 2: We fade USA just because Kingsbury is there. I can

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Speaker 2: Biggest questions here for USC will the offensive line come together,

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Speaker 2: Cliff Kingsbury points in the locker room, what are your

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Speaker 1: It took a lot to get this team where they

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Speaker 1: were last year. A lot of turnovers, a lot of

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Speaker 1: the offense. The offense is a well oiled machine. With

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Speaker 1: They remind me of Yeah, they remind me of LSU.

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Speaker 1: hard to fade USC when they actually have defensive pieces

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I will say that that the road

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Speaker 2: the USC at plus two hundred. You like the under ten,

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Speaker 2: They're over eight and a half plus one fifteen five

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Speaker 1: any other team in this conference. Is here. This is

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Speaker 1: a team that was number one and offensive havoc allowed.

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Speaker 1: They do not make mistakes, They do not let defenses

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Speaker 1: play in the backfield. They do not beat themselves at

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Speaker 1: any aspect of the game. On offense, they returned ninety

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Speaker 1: two percent of a machine that just produced available yards

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Speaker 1: and scores everywhere. They were second in the nation offensive

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Speaker 1: finishing drives. Anytime they got passed to forty there were

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Speaker 1: six points going up on the board. I don't see

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Speaker 1: anything about that stopping seventy six percent of the offensive

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Speaker 1: line snap's return. Kaitlin borr is ninety and eleven straight

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Speaker 1: up as a head coach, and this guy just wins.

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Speaker 1: And Michael Pennix, that's all he does. Cover two covers,

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Speaker 1: two covers two. So I don't expect any drop off

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Speaker 1: on the offense. Now, I mentioned that there's four teams

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Speaker 1: that can play defense and defensive front seven. Washington is

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Speaker 1: one of those. Not as highly projected on defense as

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Speaker 1: USC in Utah and Chuck Morriles the year two of

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Speaker 1: his of his scheme, but they are good enough to

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Speaker 1: get some stops. I expect a lot of shootouts with

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Speaker 1: you know, the upper echelon of the PAC twelve. So stuck,

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Speaker 1: I think you're right. Like the win total is is

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Speaker 1: priced so high, it's hard to say over the PAC

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Speaker 1: twelve championship game number is so low that there's not

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Speaker 1: a lot of value in it when you got a

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Speaker 1: lot of big games. So when I found value was

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Speaker 1: the game of the Year against USC I actually project

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Speaker 1: that as the Trojans being a small favorite less than

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Speaker 1: three and the number out and it's just going to

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Speaker 1: I expect shots total to eighty. Yeah. But the game

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Speaker 1: taking that. I'm scooping that. I'm taking that all day.

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Speaker 1: Give me the Huskies plus six and a game that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And if you if you like Washington do anything

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Speaker 2: Let's move on to two teams that we think might

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Speaker 2: potentially have value from a semi long shot perspective. We'll

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Speaker 2: start with Oregon State. Find the ten eleven to one

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Speaker 2: win total over eight and a half plus one fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Is this a DJU podcast? He does return to the

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Speaker 2: West Coast behind an elite offensive line and a which

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Speaker 2: should be an elite run game. You know it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be like a very diverse run game with play a

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Speaker 2: heavy play action with Martinez in that great offensive line,

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Speaker 2: the defense, I'm a big you know, Trent Bray guy

515
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Speaker 2: who's great in his first year. They do have to

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Speaker 2: find some new pieces of linebacker. They have to replace

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Speaker 2: both starting cornerbacks. But I'm higher on the defense then

518
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Speaker 2: the market, and I don't have as many questions as some.

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Speaker 2: I like Julian returning from injury at safety as well.

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Speaker 2: You know, you had a linebacker from Wyoming who I

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Speaker 2: think will help I do. I do really their safety

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Speaker 2: to endem might be really special, but cornerback and inside

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Speaker 2: linebacker certainly, there's certainly questions there. But why do I

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Speaker 2: like Oregon State as a potential long shot from a

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Speaker 2: futures perspective, Well, you know, this is a team that's

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Speaker 2: on the rise. I love their staff. They finished number

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Speaker 2: number seventeen highs in two thousand last year, but number

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Speaker 2: one they there, So they're pricing a ten to eleven

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Speaker 2: to one range, which is enough for me to you know,

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Speaker 2: gets me out of bed. But their biggest question last year,

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Speaker 2: and like what kind of held them back was quarterback play.

532
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Speaker 2: And they bring dju over from Clemson. I was not

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Speaker 2: a big dj you guy mainly just because of that

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Speaker 2: Clemson offense. And he has some things he has to

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Speaker 2: work out. But the town is there, the offensive line

536
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Speaker 2: is there, the run game is there, A new scene,

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Speaker 2: a better scheme. If the upside there is enormous, right,

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Speaker 2: if it hits, it could go it could go way wrong,

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Speaker 2: and then you could have you know, Golberson back in

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Speaker 2: there or freshman. But that's what I'm looking for in

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Speaker 2: the future. Is Okay. If DJU hits and the upside

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Speaker 2: and the actually realizes an upside with this new you know,

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Speaker 2: with a great offensive line, new scheme, new scene, less

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Speaker 2: pressure right on the West coast, then this is a

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Speaker 2: team that will have ample opportunities to get to the

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Speaker 2: Pac twelve championship gap because they won the lottery, the

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Speaker 2: schedule lottery in my opinion, number one, they avoid USC

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Speaker 2: They also avoid Arizona State. For what it's worth, they

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Speaker 2: get the two worst teams in the Pac twelve in

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Speaker 2: Colorado and Stanford, and they get Utah, Ucla, and Washington

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Speaker 2: all at home. So this, if DJU hits, then you

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Speaker 2: know there might be some growing pains early. You know

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Speaker 2: you're gonna face Santsey State, you see Davis and San

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Speaker 2: Diego State early on before you go to Washington State,

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Speaker 2: get Utah at home at cal. Really, I think there's

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Speaker 2: a chance to build some momentum here. But that's what

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Speaker 2: I'm buying. I'm buying the upside of DJU, the schedule, lottery,

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Speaker 2: and Jonathan Smith to continue this momentum that he's building

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Speaker 2: in corvallis so yeah. From a future perspective, I think

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Speaker 2: Oregon State's worth a shot at double digits, you know,

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Speaker 2: ten eleven to one or better. Thoughts on that and

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Speaker 2: then go into your spiel and why Ucla might be

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Speaker 2: worth a look at even a better price of I

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Speaker 2: think currently fourteen to one at BETAMGM.

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Speaker 1: Oregon State is going to be a serious problem for

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Speaker 1: a lot of teams in this conference. There are only

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Speaker 1: three rush defenses on this schedule that can try to

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Speaker 1: put a stop to this. That's Utah, Ucla and Washington.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the other nine teams on Oregon State's

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Speaker 1: schedule have a chance. They are going to run the

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Speaker 1: ball down people's throats. They're going to hog clock, and

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Speaker 1: I mean this is what Jonathan Smith does thirty three

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Speaker 1: and twenty two against the spread as a head coach,

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Speaker 1: and they get seventy nine percent of their offense back.

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Speaker 1: And we mentioned Damian Martinez and Deshaun Fenwick are going

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Speaker 1: to be running inside outside zone with dj U, who

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Speaker 1: I believe is averaging more than three yards after contact

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Speaker 1: at Clemson when they would do the same inside zone

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Speaker 1: with him DJU podcast. I don't know. We could probably

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Speaker 1: cool it off on that. But from a running perspective,

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Speaker 1: this is a serious problem for these Pac twelve defenses.

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Speaker 2: And of the three teams you said could sell it.

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Speaker 1: The only three teams on this entire schedule that have

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Speaker 1: a defensive front seven that can try to stop DJ

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Speaker 1: and Fenwick and Damian Martinez is Utah, UCLA and Washington

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Speaker 1: is the.

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Speaker 2: Older Where are those three games played? And expanded now

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Speaker 2: expanded stadium in Coblis now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And and by the way, Jonathan Smith has had

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Speaker 1: thirteen home games in Reester Stadium last two years. You

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Speaker 1: know how many of those he covered? All thirteen. They're

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Speaker 1: impossible to beat at home unless you're USC and you

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Speaker 1: get six turnovers. But so the whole thing with Oregon

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Speaker 1: State is do I want to partake in this win

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Speaker 1: total or do I want to pick a team out

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Speaker 1: from their schedule where they're going to be an underdog

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Speaker 1: but they have a serious advantage in the run game.

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Speaker 1: And there is one game on the schedule, and that

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Speaker 1: team is Oregon in the Civil War. So I'm taking

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Speaker 1: Oregon State game of the airline plus seven and a

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Speaker 1: half against an Oregon front seven that is not going

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Speaker 1: to be able to stop it. And listen, everything I

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Speaker 1: took away from the coaches and speaking with the coaches,

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Smith could not be happier that they're trying to

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Speaker 1: find ways to shave clock and make it shorter games.

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Speaker 1: You think Army has slow games with only seven to

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Speaker 1: eight possessions, what do you think Oregon State is trying

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Speaker 1: to do. They're going to run the ball, kill the clock,

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Speaker 1: pound it and the and keep the other team from

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Speaker 1: having possessions. That's the best way to keep USC from

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Speaker 1: scoring and keep Washington from scoring. Don't let him have

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Speaker 1: a ball. Oregon State is a serious issue. Do I

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Speaker 1: think they can win the conference? No, the defense will

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Speaker 1: take a step back from only thirty percent coming back

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Speaker 1: and listen. I'm with you. I love Trent break too.

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Speaker 1: They were seventeenth in defensive finishing drives. There is a

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Speaker 1: direct correlation between finishing drives and covering games. I love

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Speaker 1: Oregon State, I'm not sure they can put it together

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Speaker 1: for the full part of the schedule. They host everybody

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Speaker 1: in Corvallis. I don't know what's keeping me back from

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Speaker 1: hitting the over. I just believe that a defense that

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Speaker 1: cannot defend their run game is Oregon and I'm going

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Speaker 1: to take full advantage of by taking a Beaver's Game

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Speaker 1: of the yearline.

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Speaker 2: Two random things. Baxton Burmeister is signed with the Rams

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Speaker 2: and he's converting to a wide receiver, which was the

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Speaker 2: weirdest thing ever.

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Speaker 1: I'd expect that state. He took reps in Sandy State

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Speaker 1: wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think he was going to be on

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Speaker 2: an NFL roster as a wide receiver. I don't don't.

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Speaker 2: We'll see if he makes it. And Oregon State plays

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Speaker 2: U see Davis in week two at home and you

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Speaker 2: see Dave. This is in the same conference as Montana State.

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Speaker 2: Montana State is in Bozeman. I was in Bozeman. It's

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Speaker 2: the weirdest string, but I was in Bozeman.

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Speaker 1: The cloud. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I love the city. But there's a breakfast place there

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Speaker 2: called Jam Amazing, absolutely amazing, one of the best breakfast

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Speaker 2: places I've ever been to. So if you're ever in Bozeman,

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Speaker 2: the lovely town of Bozeman, where Montana State is located,

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Speaker 2: check out jam tons of all throughout Montana and uh

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Speaker 2: god damn, what the hell Huckleberry You'll find huckleberry jam

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Speaker 2: checkout gas stations. I my wife has like a I

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Speaker 2: found at I went to one like a Stucky's Bar.

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Speaker 2: People will tweet me I've never seen. I've never seen

648
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 2: one in person, so I've never come across one, but

649
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 2: I get pictures of them all the time. My wife's

650
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 2: been the one. They're like famous for, like like for

651
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 2: Pecan's pecans. However, anyone else is it Nevada? Nevada, Pecan

652
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 2: Pa Gone Nova? Are you kidding me?

653
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: Novada?

654
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 2: I don't know anyway back to so the Oregon state,

655
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: you don't. I'm taking the future, you're not. But you

656
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 2: want to make a case for UCLA.

657
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: Oh, I love the UCLA absolutely, and I had a

658
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: lot of questions heading in before I talk to chim Kelly.

659
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: They were tenth of the portal ranking, So I mean

660
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: there's a lot of new face.

661
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 2: You talk to chi Kelly.

662
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: I talked to Chim Kelly immedia days in case anybody didn't.

663
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 2: So over eight and a half minus one twenty by

664
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 2: the way, just to set you up, quarterback battle PTR

665
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: is gone and there is a quarterback battle. It's it

666
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: looks the Colline Schlee from Kent State was originally going

667
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 2: to be in there, but it looks like it's just

668
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 2: going to come down to the stud freshman more and

669
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: then Garbage. So I think has the lead right now.

670
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 2: They avoid Oregon in Washington on the schedule. They should

671
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 2: go six and oh at home, but it is a

672
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 2: pretty brural road slate. They got Utah, Oregon State, and

673
00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 2: u USC on the road. You also have a your

674
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 2: game at San Diego State in week two. One of

675
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: my I love all these games this year, like the

676
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 2: Power five teams going on the road, like Alabama going

677
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 2: to USF hilarious game. But biggest question who wins the

678
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 2: quarterback battle? Like Garb is more solid, more like the

679
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 2: upside of more holy shit. We'll see if he wins

680
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 2: in and then new defensive coordinator, his impact the transfers there.

681
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 2: There is partly a significant rebuild on the offensive side,

682
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 2: but what do you see with the Bruins.

683
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, the offensive side, there's a lot of new names

684
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: and places, which is why you're going to find UCLA

685
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: priced at what they are is because people just don't

686
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: recognize Dante Moore, or maybe they do know who Colin

687
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 1: Slee is from Kent State and just don't believe that

688
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: he can produce. Maybe they don't know who Carson Steel is.

689
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: You know, Chim Kelly told me that UCLA, the players

690
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: and the staff no maction better than any other team

691
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: in college B ball because they watch them from the

692
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: facility on Tuesday and Wednesday nights. And when I believe

693
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: chie Kelly's quote was when when Krocky Jay hit the

694
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: transfer portal, I immediately took a flight to Muncie, Indiana.

695
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: He wanted Carson Steel pretty bad and they got him

696
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: through the portal. The guy's an absolute bowling ball, going

697
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: to run over everybody with blonde flowing Harry. He's perfect

698
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: for Hollywood, considering he's got a pet alligator and everything.

699
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 1: I have faith with this quarterback stable of Garber Schlee

700
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: and Dante Moore. I'm really not worried at all. Ryan

701
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: Gunderson came in as the quarterback coach a couple of

702
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: years ago. We were hot on here on the podcast

703
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: two years ago and I said the DTR's numbers would

704
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: massively improve they did. I'm not worried about it. You

705
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: got Ryan Gutterson on staff. I'm good with the offensive

706
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: side of the ball. They're gonna be able to move

707
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 1: people around. They have the best center in the conference.

708
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: And Duke Clemens, he's returning for a fifth season. He's

709
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: going to anchor that offensive line that returns sixty six

710
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: percent of snaps. So I'm not expecting to drop off.

711
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: You would think losing DTR you would. This tight end

712
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 1: room has more depth than it's had in the last

713
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 1: couple of years. You see, I love to put nine

714
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: guys on the line of scrimmage in the box and

715
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,959
Speaker 1: just plow over you. So I'm not really worried about

716
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: this offense whatsoever. Go to the defensive side of the ball.

717
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 1: A lot of transfers coming in. The Murphy brothers are

718
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: still there that can run edge. Linebacker is loaded with

719
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: recruits that they had come in through the portal really

720
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: highly you know, high prospect recruits that came in, and

721
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: so I don't expect to drop off. And then there

722
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: was the whole Bill McGovern. You know, their defensive coordinator

723
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: passed away. Rip Choe Kelly was able to go to

724
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: the Raven staff and pull dance on Lynn Man.

725
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 2: He's plays, but I do like to hire.

726
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: He's never called plays. But the correlation we can make

727
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: here is that Mike McDonald and Jesse Mentor have been

728
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: able to swap in and out of the Raven staff

729
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 1: into Michigan and made Michigan's defense college football playoff worthy

730
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: and they never were before. And I'm not going to

731
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: believe that it's the Michigan players because they got burned

732
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: so many times by Ohio State. It was skiing and

733
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 1: so if you're pulling two guys separately off the Raven

734
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: staff and they did that to the Michigan defense, I

735
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: have no issues with this Danton lenn Higher from the

736
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: Ravens whatsoever. I expect what happened to Michigan the last

737
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: couple of years with Mike McDonald and Jesse Mentor, I

738
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: think that is going to be what's going to happen here.

739
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 1: So I see a ton of positives. I see big

740
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 1: names that have filled up the portal on the defensive

741
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: side of the ball. When Dante Moore finally gets his

742
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: feet under him, he's got a great quarterbacks coach. UCLA

743
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: is gonna rumble in this pac twelve here and you

744
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 1: know what, and no one's talking about it.

745
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, so why one of the group those two

746
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 2: teams together. I mean it was we just talked two

747
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 2: seconds before we started recording this. We don't share any

748
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 2: notes ahead of time. I said, what is your future

749
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 2: laun shot and you said, to UCLA and the nights

750
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 2: at Oregon State, like both have some questions on defense.

751
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 2: We'd like the coordinators like coordinator. You like the coordinator higher.

752
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 2: I agree there, but they also have quarterback upside, which

753
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: is what you want when you're looking for a future

754
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: in this range right more as so much talent if

755
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 2: he ends up being the guy. The upside there if

756
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,479
Speaker 2: he hits is extreme, which is what you're looking for

757
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 2: with that variance in the future. So good stuff there.

758
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 2: Let's go to the six teams at the bottom of

759
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 2: the conference. All price thirty to one or greater. Yeah,

760
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 2: about to get very hair. They'll get we'll get the

761
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,919
Speaker 2: dion eventually. We'll start with Washington State thirty to one

762
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 2: over six minus one point fifteen. I have a lot

763
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 2: of questions with this team, leaning under for what it's

764
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 2: worth having pulled the trigger out, curious to get your thoughts.

765
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 2: They do have two new coordinators for the second straight year.

766
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 2: It's a little worrying. I do like where they're going

767
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 2: with the offense. It's they brought in guy from Western Kentucky.

768
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: It's gonna bring the air right back, right to the

769
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 2: age at the age of the offensive coordinator. Yeah, I'm

770
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 2: gonna say thirty. Well, I'm trying to decipher now while

771
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 2: you're you were asking me this, he must be younger

772
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,439
Speaker 2: than I thought. So I was gonna say thirty three,

773
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna now he's gotta be well, I know

774
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 2: he's young.

775
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, Kenny Dealingham was standing in front of me

776
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: and he's thirty three years old, and I thought, man,

777
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: this is the youngest coach I think in FBS. And

778
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: then come to find out Ben Arbuckle, the new offense

779
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: State is twenty seven years old. Twenty seven twenty seven

780
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: years old. Wow, graduated high school.

781
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 2: That's amazing.

782
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: All right, let's get back to Washington State.

783
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 2: I feel so old now. But yeah, you're gonna get

784
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 2: the air raid back and in pullman, you're gonna have more.

785
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 2: This is gonna be an offense that just takes a

786
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: lot more deep shots. You're gonna get the tight end

787
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 2: more involved. Cam Ward is back at quarterback, you have

788
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 2: Watson back a running back, You've got a brand new

789
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 2: wide receiver, Room four or five back on the offense line,

790
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 2: but you have to replace your left tackle. I do

791
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 2: have a lot of questions on defense, which is what

792
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 2: I'm really worried about. So it's a new offensive scheme.

793
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 2: I think it'll be a fit for cam Ward and

794
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 2: I like it. There might be some growing pains, which

795
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 2: you could see week one at Calra State. More on

796
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 2: that later. But you know, you're, you know, you have

797
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 2: two really good dead rushers in Stone and Jackson, but

798
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 2: you're you know, you lose your top three defensive tackles,

799
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 2: You lose a ton at linebacker right Henley goes to

800
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 2: the NFL. You lose others to the portal major questions

801
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 2: at one of the corner spots. So yeah, I mean then,

802
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 2: also you did lose your top four wide receivers. But

803
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 2: the good thing is that USC and Utah get replaced

804
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 2: by Colorado and u CLA. The non conference got Wisconsin

805
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 2: at home. Wisconsin revenge spot at Colorado State could be tricky.

806
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 2: Either two touchdown favorites and then you get Northern Colorado

807
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 2: at home. You're at Oregon at Washington, but you also

808
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: get you know, cal Colorado, Stanford, Arizona State, Arizona at home.

809
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 2: There's a lot of winnable games here. I just don't

810
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 2: see them getting the seven wins. I show a little

811
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 2: bit of value on the under, A lot of questions

812
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 2: about dal There might be some ground pains on offense.

813
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on the coogs?

814
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, the cougs I projected six point five, which is

815
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: right where the market is at six and a half.

816
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: You can get a plus one forty on that on

817
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: the over. But I have serious issues, a lot of

818
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: issues that are on the offensive side of the ball.

819
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: Not that I don't believe in Ben Arbuckle and his

820
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: really short time as a Houston Baptist QC quality control

821
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 1: coach and then having a couple of years of Western

822
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 1: Kentucky knowing the Zach Hittley system.

823
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 2: Sure with offense coordinator in three years, which is crazy,

824
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 2: and this seems going changes. It's crazy.

825
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think the problem with that also is

826
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: that cam Ward must be in his third or fourth

827
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: offensive system after coming from incarnate word. So it is

828
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: a lot to grasp. Plus this team forget you know,

829
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: coordinators being new on both sides of the ball, cam

830
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: Ward loses his top four targets. I don't think he

831
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: knows you know, who he's going to be throwing to

832
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: when we start the season off. Now, cam Ward is

833
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: very capable of producing video game numbers, both on the

834
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: ground and through the air. The problem with this kid

835
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: because the man that I love him coming in last year,

836
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 1: this team finished one hundred and nineteenth and havoc allowed.

837
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's like a turnover waiting to

838
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: happen at any second. As much as I love watching

839
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: cam Ward as exciting as he is, until there is

840
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: the ability to protect the football and maybe take a

841
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: sack instead of throwing an I int I'm not putting

842
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: any money behind this team, and you know what, they're

843
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: going to struggle at the beginning of the season with

844
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: all this change, so complete, Pass on Washington State for me.

845
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 2: Let's move on to Arizona. Arizona but five and seven

846
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 2: last year showed some improvement under Jedfish. This will be

847
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 2: the second year for him, second year in a new system.

848
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 2: For quarterback Jade Dolora, I think he could make another

849
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 2: jump and Ara the Wildcott's looking for their first bull

850
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,919
Speaker 2: bid since twenty seventeen. Their win total over five plus

851
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 2: one fifteen. You're basically betting if you like the over

852
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 2: on will they get the Bowl eligibility? PAC twelve eighty

853
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 2: to one. At MGM the overturns a ton, although they

854
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 2: did lose their one of their best receivers to USC. Well,

855
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 2: if it's a line, their biggest question. They'll be in

856
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 2: experience in the young at left guard and right tackle,

857
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,720
Speaker 2: also have the left Their left tackles are turning from injury,

858
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: but it's a fairly experienced unit. As I mentioned Singer,

859
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: their wide receiver went to USC, but I still like

860
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 2: their skill position players. The defense is the biggest question.

861
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 2: But the defense was awful last year, Like how much

862
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 2: worse can it get? I actually like what they did

863
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 2: in the offseason. Right they only have what like thirty

864
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 2: six starts returning on d but they went and really

865
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 2: hit the transfer portal. I think they're bigger, they're more physical.

866
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 2: I like what they did in the portal, and yes,

867
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 2: you use a lot of production, but sometimes that's a

868
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 2: good thing on defenses that really struggled. So I actually

869
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 2: think their d which will be overhauled in their four

870
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,720
Speaker 2: two five brand new defensive line will actually be better.

871
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 2: Even with that, Like I said, their top five tacklers

872
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 2: are gone. The lower in the second year, the system

873
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 2: should reduce his turnovers. They also should have some positive

874
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 2: regression in the red zone mentioned that in the ACC episode,

875
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 2: like wake Forest should have some negative agression in the

876
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 2: red zone. I think might be the opposite with Arizona.

877
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 2: The problem is that the schedule, like you like, because

878
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 2: I wanted to buy, I like what Arizona is building.

879
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 2: They should they could start off three and one. I

880
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 2: mean at Misissippi State is an impossible game, but they

881
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 2: should start off three and one and then they you know,

882
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 2: you host Washington, but on this schedule they do miss Oregon,

883
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 2: but they also miss Cal. All their easiest league games

884
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 2: are on the road like that. That That is what

885
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 2: I hate. So and they only have four PAC twelve

886
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 2: home games and they're all versus the upper half of

887
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 2: the league right there. So you're hosting Washington, Oregon State, UCLA,

888
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 2: and Utah later in the year, and you know you're

889
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 2: going to Washington State, You're going to Stanford, you're going

890
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 2: to Colorado, you're going You're also going to USC which

891
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 2: should probably lose, and you're going to Arizona State in

892
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 2: the finale. So yeah, those are easier opponents, but I

893
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: would rather have some easy opponents at home. Is to

894
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 2: feel more compless. There's a more wide range of outcomes here.

895
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: So I wanted to buy Arizona. There might only team

896
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 2: I mean them and Washington overs, but not enough to

897
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 2: pull the trigger as of right now. What are your

898
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 2: thoughts on the Wildcats?

899
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: There is a lot, not just going on on the field,

900
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: but there is increasingly more going on off the field

901
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: with this team. So on the field, it's an exciting

902
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: combination of Jaden de Laura. You know, twenty nine big

903
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,919
Speaker 1: time throws, the twenty four turnover worthy plays. Last year

904
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: he was pressured on thirty two percent of drawbacks.

905
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 2: That is a lot.

906
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,479
Speaker 1: But he has Jacob Cowing transferred in from UTEP. Last

907
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: year he averaged two point eight yards per route run.

908
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: That's a bomb. I mean, Jacob Cowing is such a

909
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: huge weapon in PAC twelve play offensive line is going

910
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: to bring back sixty two percent. But you know, first off,

911
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: Arizona's got to learn to the offns line has to

912
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: learn how to protect Jadan de Laura. They were seventy

913
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: fifth and pass bogging and second off. They have to

914
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: improve from a finishing drives aspect of being seventieth in

915
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: the nation last year. They can move the ball up

916
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: and down the fiel top twenty five and success, right.

917
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: I think it first downs all day, but getting points

918
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: up on the board has been an issue now. Jedfish

919
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: is a great head coach. I mean, even when I

920
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: heard him talk, I was like, Wow, this guy's bound

921
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: to end up in the SEC or a big ten somewhere.

922
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's just got the personality. But there's

923
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: so much going on off the field. And I'm not

924
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: going to get into the incident that happened off the

925
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: field with Jayden Delare when he was seventeen years old,

926
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: but all of that came out and was public I

927
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: believe in May, may have been March. What happened to

928
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: him when he was seventeen is horrific, and Jedfish said

929
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: that I'm not going to talk about it. I can't

930
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: publicly comment on it. It's all legally sealed. It's never

931
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 1: going to be reviewed, it's never going to be discussed.

932
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: But it's behind us. Jaden Laura comes out to the

933
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: crowd of packed told media days and cried for ten minutes,

934
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: apologizing And if you want a gambling take, because I'm

935
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: not going to give any sort of like social take

936
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: on it. I never would. There's a lot on this team.

937
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: There's a lot going on off the field. I don't

938
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: want anything to do with this team. I think the

939
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: program is heading in the right direction. I think Jed

940
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: Fish is a great coach and he's going to get

941
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: them to continue head in the right direction. But if

942
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: Jane Beloa is the quarterback, there's too many turnover worthy

943
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 1: plays still happening, and he is being pressured too much.

944
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: And this team is not proved that they can put

945
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: points up on the board when they get past the

946
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: four yard line. So it would be an under if

947
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: I played them. But I'm definitely not playing the over

948
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: on these guys.

949
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of distractions. As you mentioned. Let's stay

950
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 2: in the same state and talk Arizona State and their

951
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 2: win total. What is the Arizona State nickname Grand Canyon

952
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 2: State or also the Copper State. Must be some good

953
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 2: Copper minds there, which makes sense, by the way. Another

954
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 2: thing on my trip out West I was in. I

955
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 2: went to Jacksonville, which is ridiculously expensive place. Jackson Hole

956
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 2: Airport the nice airport I've ever been in, and fun fact,

957
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,720
Speaker 2: the only airport in the world that's inside a National park. Anyway,

958
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 2: that's my random West another my second brandom West Coast.

959
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 2: It's number one of the places to retire.

960
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: It's like number one in the list of places to

961
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: retire as jackson.

962
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 2: Hole beautiful place. Grantee duns are awesome. But let's send

963
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 2: the same state Arizona State. You mentioned Kenny Dillingham earlier.

964
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 2: Oregon off its corner now goes to Arizona State. Brand

965
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 2: new staff here, also brand new quarterback stole a battle,

966
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 2: I believe Drew Pine, the Notre Dame transfer, and then

967
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 2: the backup we'll get from last year. I think the

968
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 2: skill possessions are going to be more than fine, but

969
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 2: it's going to come down to quarterback. And you know

970
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 2: you have new schemes. You got a new offense coordinator

971
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 2: from cal Poly, a new defensive coordinator Brian Wood from

972
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 2: Washington State. This is a complete overhall. I mean there's

973
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 2: forty three new players, more scholarship newcomers than returnees. Yeah,

974
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 2: you got new head coach, new quarterback, new office quarter

975
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 2: new defensive coordinator. A lot of change here, so the

976
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 2: offense side I think might be a mess early. What

977
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 2: it's worth there, one hundred to one to win the

978
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 2: pack twelve win total over four and a half minus

979
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 2: one fifty five. Secondary's the most ethic experienced unit on

980
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:13,760
Speaker 2: the team. Got some bolstered by the transfer portal as well.

981
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 2: From a schedule perspective, eight home games that jumps right

982
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 2: off the page, that includes opening with four straight you

983
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 2: get Southern Utah, Oklahoma State's Presno, and then USC in

984
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 2: the conference opener. Weird things happen down there in Tempe

985
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 2: and they got eight home games. Do have a very

986
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 2: tough second half of the year. The team's left off

987
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 2: their schedule from the PAC twelve at Oregon State and Stanford.

988
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 2: You have Colorado, Washington State, Arizona three winnable league games

989
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 2: at home. You know you also have Southern Utah at

990
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 2: home to start the year, So then can you win

991
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 2: those games? Pick off another? Then you're over four and

992
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 2: a half. What are your thoughts on Arizona State?

993
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: A lot of negativity out there from I'd say people

994
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: I respect the circles that I respect in the game community.

995
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: There's a lot of negativity around around dilling Ham and

996
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: taking this position and the coordinator hires although you know,

997
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: and we could discuss that, but you know, the rosters

998
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: in such transition and such flux. This team finished nineteenth

999
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: in the portal ranking, you know, and Dillingham comes in

1000
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: as one of the youngest head coaches in FBS, goes

1001
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: and hires Bo Baldwin as his offensive coordinator. And Dillingham

1002
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: is very adamant and saying, I'm not touching the offense

1003
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: at all. This is not my offense. This is all

1004
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: Bo Baldwin. If you want to know what Bo Baldwin is.

1005
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: Eastern Washington used to put seventy up on the board

1006
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 1: every week, and those offenses a couple of years ago

1007
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: that we're doing that belonged to Bo Baldwin. He can

1008
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: absolutely call offense is one hundred percent his. Dillingham is

1009
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: not going to have anything to do with it. Not

1010
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: going to touch a headset, not going to touch the

1011
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: game plan, not going to get in on third downs.

1012
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: So any of these correlations we try to make from Oregon,

1013
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: Kenny Dillingham is not going to be a part of that.

1014
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: Plus there's no Bo Nicks. I understand the naked around

1015
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: Drew Pine. He didn't prove anything while he was at

1016
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. The rest of this quarterback staff is completely unproven.

1017
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: It's kind of a collection of me and I get that.

1018
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: But there are two areas where Arizona State kind of

1019
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: separates themselves from the bottom of the pack and the

1020
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,240
Speaker 1: PAC twelve. One is this is one of the easiest

1021
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: schedules out there. You know, from a Pack twelve perspective,

1022
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: it's not that bad. It's an easier schedule than say

1023
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: Colorado or cal if you're looking if you're going in comparison.

1024
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: And then the other part is their transfers that they

1025
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: got through the portal are proven. They have a top

1026
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: twenty transfer portal class. Some of the other programs don't

1027
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: really have that. This is an extremely low win total.

1028
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: It is not hard to get to four wins on

1029
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: this schedule. Southern Utah, Oklahoma State's coming out. What's the

1030
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: heat going to be in Tempe when that game happens.

1031
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: I have a lot of questions about Oklahoma State. Forresno State,

1032
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: same situation. A lot of new offense at Fresno State.

1033
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: That is the whole thing about Arizona State's beginning of

1034
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 1: their schedule. Their first three games are against offenses that

1035
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: are completely going under changes, Southern Utah included. So this

1036
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: is going to be easy to get over four and

1037
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: a half. I like over four and a half wins.

1038
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: Here A project them at five.

1039
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. New defense. Acording to Brian Wood from Watch to State,

1040
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,240
Speaker 2: expect a lot of five defensive back sets, aggressive nickel

1041
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 2: and that's what they're They can run that because they

1042
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: have a really strong secondary. That's the strength of seam,

1043
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 2: which really helps in the Pac twelve. A lot of

1044
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,280
Speaker 2: two linebacker sets. You bring Brown in at linebacker from Holman,

1045
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:39,399
Speaker 2: so you a defensive end back from injury. I love

1046
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 2: torn So yeah, I think that the defense might be

1047
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 2: better than some expect. And eight home games in Tempe

1048
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 2: that's important. So it looks like it's over nothing for sure.

1049
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 2: I would agree there. Let's talk about a team that

1050
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 2: we agree on an under, and that is the cow

1051
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 2: Bears how sixty six to one to win the Pac

1052
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 2: twelve total at bet MGM over five and a half

1053
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 2: plus one twenty Your boy spabatall. Jake s Babotall comes

1054
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 2: in and takes over as the offensive coordinator. A little big,

1055
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 2: big change air raid up tempo for this offense. Like

1056
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 2: the quarterback will be Sam Jackson, a dual threat from TCU,

1057
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 2: and you got at in the backfield that returns. But

1058
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 2: the rest is a mess on offense and this this

1059
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 2: offense could struggle once again. There's also questions on defense.

1060
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 2: Maybe you get Brett Johnson back and healthy and he

1061
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 2: returns to form. You know, they secondary will depend on

1062
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 2: a lot of transfer editions. But this team's a mess.

1063
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 2: They also don't have Colorado or Arizona on the schedule.

1064
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 2: Brutal Road League schedule. They play at Washington, at Utah,

1065
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 2: at Oregon, at Stanford, and at UCLA. Oh by the way,

1066
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 2: they also play you see in Oregon State at home.

1067
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 2: You also played Auburn at home. First ever meeting with

1068
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,760
Speaker 2: the first ever meeting with an SEC team, polar opposite

1069
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:11,280
Speaker 2: that the most pole opposite schools and cultures and political

1070
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 2: views and tailgates. Uh, you could ever imagine Auburn and

1071
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 2: Cal and the only team in the Pac twelve that

1072
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 2: plays the top six projected teams in the league. Plus

1073
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,439
Speaker 2: they only have four home games. This I think Will

1074
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,439
Speaker 2: Cox is a lame duck and this is his last year.

1075
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 2: I can't see this team getting the six wins. It's

1076
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 2: under for me.

1077
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: I agree, this is an absolute under for me. You know,

1078
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that I have. Probably Nick's

1079
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 1: bavital coming in didn't work out as Texas State head coach.

1080
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 1: He's got to who is your boy?

1081
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 2: Who is your boy? At Texas State? That one for

1082
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 2: that one two week stretch? Vitt remember vit? Yeah, Tyler Vitt, Yeah, yeah, boy,

1083
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 2: it was fun. That was That was one of your favorite.

1084
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 2: Mostly we all had some hilariously wrong takes, but your

1085
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 2: Texas State take that year was great. I actually then

1086
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 2: had the mine was romanticizing them like a year or

1087
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 2: two later.

1088
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: Geezh if I remember right, there was a thirty five

1089
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: and a half point spread against Texas A and M

1090
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: and the opener and some guy caught a pass on

1091
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 1: his butt in the end zone to cover that thirty

1092
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: five and it landed on thirty five.

1093
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 2: So I had thirty four and a half, so even worse.

1094
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 2: And they like went for to or missed the extra

1095
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 2: point or something. Oh yeah, we'll get that stated eventually.

1096
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 1: Spabotol is here on an offense. He's got to improve

1097
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: an offense that was outside the top one hundred success rate.

1098
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: They were in the bottom half FBS when it comes

1099
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: to havoc allowed. Now you got Sam Jackson coming in

1100
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: to play quarterback. King Daru transfers in. They were seventeenth

1101
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: in the portal rankings, so they do have some names

1102
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: coming in, but they've never been able to nationally recruit

1103
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: to this program whatsoever. I was a little I was

1104
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: kind of I didn't know what to do with these guys. Uh,

1105
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: considering you know, spabotal coming in. I did like Peter

1106
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: Sermon when they hired him as a defensive coordinator. But

1107
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: they went one hundred and twenty eight and defensive success

1108
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: rate and one hundred and twenty fifth and havoc they

1109
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: generated nothing last year. Now they get sixty nine percent

1110
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: of the defense back. I don't see this improving at

1111
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: all for them whatsoever. The schedule is brutal. But what

1112
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: really put the nail in the coffin is that an

1113
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: unnamed coach told me that there is a reason.

1114
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 2: Where did the coach tell you this?

1115
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: At Pack told media days there is a reason Sam

1116
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: Jackson was extremely limited in his play for TCU. Now

1117
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: think about it, So Sam Jackson's coming into quarterback he

1118
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,959
Speaker 1: was third string, depends on where you put Chandler Morris

1119
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: last year at TCU, and there were a lot of

1120
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 1: games where TCU is up by more than four scores

1121
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: and you just didn't see a lot of action out

1122
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: of Sam Jackson. I mean, we finally saw him in

1123
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: the opener against Colorado, but think about it, of all

1124
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: the big leads ahead, you never really saw him come

1125
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: in and take any snaps. And the word on the

1126
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: street that I guess is finally starting to get around

1127
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: is that Sam Jackson is not ready for this starting

1128
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: quarterback position whatsoever. From learning the playbook from you know,

1129
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: a grasp of the offense, taking a snap and knowing

1130
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: which way to turn the kids electric. We all know

1131
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: one disagrees, Just go watch film of things that he

1132
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: did for the horn Frogs. But his grasp of spabotol

1133
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: of offense is a huge, huge issue right now, and

1134
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: it's going to be when they start camp under five

1135
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: no issues playing it. This team is not getting to

1136
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: six with the schedule.

1137
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 2: Agreed, Let's move to another team that should be a

1138
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 2: mess with a brand new head coach and Troy Taylor

1139
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator. He's task basically with fixing this offense.

1140
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 2: Talking about the Stanford Cardinal two hundred and fifty to

1141
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 2: one to win the Pack twelve. My how they have

1142
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 2: fallen off the face of the earth. Win total over

1143
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 2: two and a half minus one thirty. Mind you, they

1144
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 2: play at Hawaii to start the year and their ten

1145
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 2: point favorites. Uh, and they have Sacramento State at home.

1146
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 2: Those are two of their first three games, and they're

1147
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,919
Speaker 2: their win totals two and a half. I wanted at

1148
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 2: the under. I don't think I can get there. Maybe

1149
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 2: you can get into it together. This seems just a mess.

1150
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 2: I mean, they have six returning starters total, they have

1151
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 2: new schemes on both sides of the ball. They're one

1152
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty first in experience. They also can't they're

1153
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 2: limited in what they could do in the portalize of

1154
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 2: right now. They basically lose everything in the secondary. They

1155
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 2: have fifteen career offensive line starts for turning, they're gonna

1156
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 2: lean on their tight end, and they have an FIU

1157
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 2: transfer who I like. I mean, there is not a

1158
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 2: big quarterback battle between three guys here, they avoid Utah

1159
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 2: and Arizona State. They technically have like five winnable games

1160
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 2: in the schedule, which I can't go under because this

1161
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 2: team's gonna be a mess. I mean they have the

1162
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 2: least power five returning production two like, because you look

1163
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 2: at a Hawaii they're obviously like ten point favorites, even

1164
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 2: though I like Wwyahi could easily when they came Sacks

1165
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 2: stayed at home, you know, Arizona at home at Colorado,

1166
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,479
Speaker 2: and then cal at home and we don't like Cal.

1167
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,919
Speaker 2: So like, this team stinks their mass, but I can't

1168
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 2: go under two and a half. What are your thoughts?

1169
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 1: First off, I love Troy Taylor, and yeah, he was

1170
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 1: probably one of the nicest people I've met in my travels.

1171
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 1: I would I was a pactwell media day, Oh I would.

1172
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: I would venture to say that the team will be

1173
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 1: one hundred percent prepared and probably at a bargain value

1174
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 1: against Sacramento State, Troy Taylor's old team. He's going to

1175
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: know how to prep for those kids. He ran them

1176
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: through the FCS playoffs. He has a really nice offense

1177
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 1: that he had. We have backed the B's on our

1178
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: podcast multiple times. We were backing Troy Taylor. He's going

1179
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 1: to be excellent for Stanford in time. But you can't

1180
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 1: take what Sacramento State did at the FCS level and

1181
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 1: the offensive schemes a ram and bring it to David

1182
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 1: Shaw's old offense with the size of their offensive lineman

1183
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 1: that he recruited, with the tight ends that are, you know,

1184
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: inline versus out in the slot. There's just a lot

1185
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: of differences between those two offenses, and you're not gonna

1186
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 1: be able to pull this off overnight. The problem with

1187
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 1: the wind total also is that the very first win

1188
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: total that I hit was Stanford under three back in

1189
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 1: April or May. That's two and a half. That's a

1190
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 1: big difference. They should be Sacramento State. He knows everything

1191
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: about them. That's a win, right, there's one. Where's your

1192
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:26,479
Speaker 1: other two? Hawaii? Colorado doable, completely doable. So I can't

1193
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 1: tell everybody to go hit under two and a half.

1194
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 2: Although could easily be cal at Home too.

1195
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So I mean, I'm not gonna give you

1196
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: anybody a ring endorsement to go take an over on

1197
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 1: the seam. I do like Troy Taylor, it's going to come.

1198
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: I would say, rather wait for an underdog spot and

1199
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 1: take them as an underdog.

1200
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 2: You get a bet, say for Week two at USC.

1201
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 1: No, but I'm gonna bet him against the State. I

1202
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: think about it, right, if.

1203
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 2: Hawaii was an underdog role and they're not gonna bet

1204
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 2: against USC, but against sack State. Just conflicted.

1205
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 1: Everything just said, you're gonna get a good number they

1206
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 1: can get in the back door against USC. If Timmy

1207
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: Chang shows the pulse and Hawaii wins, and then USC

1208
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: wins by forty two or forty nine, you're gonna get

1209
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:11,439
Speaker 1: a hell of a number against Sacramento State.

1210
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 2: Yes, agreed, And I think Hawaii's gonna beat Stanford in

1211
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 2: Week one for what it's worth. All right, let's move

1212
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 2: on to the team and say the best for last,

1213
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 2: the team that everyone wants to know. What everyone's takes

1214
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 2: are on Colorado Buffalo's Neon dion Zim Boulder.

1215
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 1: There he is right there, coach prom what the joy

1216
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 1: I love it.

1217
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 2: Complete overhaul. I mean what they bring in forty transfers,

1218
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 2: twenty freshmen. They also lost about the same amount to

1219
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 2: the portal. This is a team that was a disaster

1220
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 2: last year with one and eleven. Just everything went wrong.

1221
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 2: Everything was bad. Across the board. This is a brand

1222
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 2: new team. Though like I could be like, ah, there's

1223
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 2: some regression here. It's just a brand new team. They

1224
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 2: they bring in lots of transfers, They lose a lot

1225
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 2: of guys. His son is going to take over at

1226
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 2: quarterback to one of the Heisman if you want to

1227
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 2: grab the sun, yeah, three hundred one of the Heisman.

1228
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 2: All but three offensive starters are brand new. The offensive

1229
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 2: line major questions. The defense obviously major questions. You know,

1230
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 2: they do have like two five star kids at cornerback,

1231
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 2: but not sure that they're ready to dominate yet. Like

1232
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 2: book the undidd I like the hire for Colorado, Yes,

1233
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 2: and I think that they compared to what they where

1234
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 2: they were going. He has a shot, you know, over

1235
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 2: time to get this program back to relevancy, but it's

1236
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 2: it's not going to happen this year. For what it's worth,

1237
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 2: pack twelve one hundred to one at bet MGM. Might

1238
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 2: as well just take a one hundred dollar bill and

1239
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 2: lay it on fire if you wanted to bet it

1240
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 2: win total over three and a half plus one twenty.

1241
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 2: It's there's just the I like the coordinator hires. I'll

1242
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 2: tell you that with Jehan Lewis, I'm a big fan

1243
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 2: of but there's so many issues with this team. What

1244
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 2: does Sewn Lewis want to do? Flash fast and to

1245
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 2: play as fast as possible. What's a bad thing that

1246
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 2: you can do when you're when you're undermanned and out

1247
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 2: gunned is try to play as fast as possible. You

1248
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 2: kind of want to reduce the number of possessions. So,

1249
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 2: you know, with the undid at Jackson State was amazing,

1250
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 2: but he was getting a lot of the guy can recruit,

1251
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 2: can build relationships. He was getting like FBS kids to

1252
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 2: come play then FCS team. That's not the case here

1253
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 2: right and this program was in such a mess that

1254
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 2: it's not gonna be a quick turnaround. So but there's

1255
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 2: a ton of there's a ton of uncertainday, there's how

1256
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 2: are all these pieces going to fit together. It's definitely

1257
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 2: a more talented team on the surface. I do have

1258
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 2: questions about the depth across the board, the teams that

1259
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 2: they don't play Washington Cal. Another problem is, I mean

1260
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 2: the schedule is hard as it has been for Colorado

1261
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 2: for years. Two of their easiest opponents on the schedule

1262
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 2: Colorado State at home and Stanford at home. Both those

1263
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 2: teams are coming off of a bye that doesn't do

1264
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 2: him any favors. They start at TCU, the three touchdown

1265
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 2: underdogs in there, Nebraska at home, Colorida State at home,

1266
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 2: and then it's just like at Oregon USC they do

1267
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 2: have Stanford at homes. Like, you're over three and a half,

1268
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 2: but here's here's your path. It's like, can you beat

1269
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 2: can you upset Nebraska week two? Sure? Could you beat

1270
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 2: Colorado State week three? Yeah? Then you're gonna have to,

1271
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 2: like you beat Stanford and then you pick off Arizona,

1272
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 2: especially if they're a mess. There's your four wins that

1273
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 2: but this is this number has come down under three

1274
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 2: and a half is juice. I still lean that way.

1275
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 2: Don't love it as much as I did, especially with

1276
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 2: all the uncertainty around this roster, but this this is

1277
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 2: a team that's probably gonna finish three and nine in

1278
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 2: my opinion. What are your thoughts on Colorado and Dion.

1279
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 1: Well being flashy like this comes with a price, And

1280
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 1: I'm glad coach Prime is an FBS. I'm glad he's

1281
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 1: a Colorado. I'm kind of glad that Colorado is going

1282
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 1: to the Big twelve because you're gonna put Comissioner Brett

1283
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,439
Speaker 1: your mark with with you know, coach Prime. That's gonna

1284
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 1: be some fire works. You know. Get your seats now

1285
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Speaker 1: for big twelve media days next year.

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Speaker 3: I expect to be great when I walk into a

1287
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Speaker 3: room and is seventy to a degrees when I get there,

1288
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Speaker 3: it's gonna be seventy.

1289
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Speaker 2: I expect to make change.

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Speaker 1: I think when you're this flashy and you have this

1291
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 1: much change in your roster and you just exude confidence

1292
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 1: like this, you're going to piss off other coaches.

1293
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 2: You're and you're hunted. You're hunted by every team, and

1294
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 2: you should be the hunter as a team that was

1295
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 2: just one and eleven losing every game by sixty.

1296
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Speaker 1: I talked to eleven of the twelve coaches on the schedule.

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Speaker 1: We're at multiple media days, so if you look at

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Speaker 1: the schedule at multiple one coach off the record said

1299
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 1: it's circled and we want to kick his ass. And

1300
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Speaker 1: he wasn't the only one that had those sentiments. So

1301
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 1: your flashiness and what you've done through the portal and

1302
01:07:56,680 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 1: breaking college football, you've pissed a lot of people off.

1303
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 1: And listen, I don't this is probably year zero It's

1304
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 1: probably never going to be this bad for me for

1305
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 1: Dion ever again, he just.

1306
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 2: Has a complete, an overall complete, complete.

1307
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Speaker 1: And you're right when you made that Sean Lewis comparison,

1308
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 1: because at Kent State, right, flash fasts are want to

1309
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 1: be the fastest in the nation, but you don't have

1310
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:23,639
Speaker 1: anything on the defensive side of the ball to get

1311
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 1: the stops. Who was the team last year that had

1312
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 1: that exact same problem, Oklahoma? It was a dumpster fire. Right.

1313
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 1: You can't go that fast when that's what you have

1314
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 1: on defense. You have to limit possessions. So, yes, this

1315
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 1: is going to be a dumpster fire. And the offenses

1316
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:41,640
Speaker 1: that I'm looking at on the schedule that have the

1317
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 1: ability to kick their ass are going to kick their

1318
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 1: ass and it's not going to be pretty. You're going

1319
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 1: to see a couple of head coaches in the fourth

1320
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 1: quarter up by forty, still trying to score. Billy Napier's style, right,

1321
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 1: Billy Napier has killed a few of my unders because

1322
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 1: he's running tempo with two minutes left in the game.

1323
01:08:57,560 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 1: I think we're going to see some of that on

1324
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 1: this schedule this year. So I'm glad you're here. Dion

1325
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 1: but you know this is FBS and you've wrinkled some

1326
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 1: feathers here and you're gonna have to pay for it.

1327
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 1: There's two kin State offensive linemen on on the offensive

1328
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 1: line here. That's not it.

1329
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 2: That's tough Maco alignment and the Power five.

1330
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 1: So am I suggested to playing under Now, I'm not

1331
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 1: because stuck. You laid out the path where they can

1332
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 1: get some wins. Here is where we usually play these teams.

1333
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 1: There's a lot of unknowns, there's a lot of X factors,

1334
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 1: there's a lot of I don't have any chemistry with

1335
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 1: my teammates, I don't have any chemistry with my coach.

1336
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:40,919
Speaker 1: By the time November rolls around and I see Arizona

1337
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 1: and Washington State on this schedule, those are two games

1338
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 1: where I think Colorado's stock will be their lowest and

1339
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 1: will be a chance for them to come up and

1340
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 1: grab a win. So I'm putting Colorado on pause. But

1341
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:55,919
Speaker 1: I will tell you TCU, Nebraska, Colorado State, Oregon USC

1342
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 1: to start the first five games of the season. I

1343
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 1: can't see an where I'm not playing an over now.

1344
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 1: I'm holding back on week one because everybody's freaked out

1345
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 1: about this clock thing. Right, and totals across the board

1346
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,599
Speaker 1: are getting hit under. There's some services out there they're

1347
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 1: going to release overs and at some point, so mark

1348
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:17,640
Speaker 1: your calendars for about August twenty third inch and I

1349
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 1: think all the understeam on these for week one games,

1350
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 1: these week zero games is going to come to a

1351
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 1: halt and you're going to start to see some playback

1352
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 1: on the over Colorado every week is going to be

1353
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 1: an overplay for me, at least from a team total

1354
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 1: over on the team that they're playing. That includes Nebraska, right,

1355
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 1: that includes teams. I don't even know what offensive identity

1356
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 1: they're going to throw out there, But the problem is

1357
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 1: this defense is going to be horrific and this offense

1358
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 1: is going to be lost, and some coaches are going

1359
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 1: to want to take it out on prime. And that's

1360
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 1: what you're going to see this year.

1361
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 2: Nebraska team total over that that's a two. It gets

1362
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 2: the Colorado defense. That means you us really like that angle,

1363
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 2: all right with the way Nebraska wants to play this year.

1364
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 2: All right, good stuff there. Before we do close up

1365
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 2: shop on this episode, let's go three and out two.

1366
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 1: Let's make it a quick three and out all right, as.

1367
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 2: We'll do for all of our Power five Betting preview episodes,

1368
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:19,599
Speaker 2: and by the way, we will have eleven total College

1369
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 2: Wall Betting Conference preview episodes. Two for the SEC and

1370
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 2: then our group of five guys Mike and Mike will

1371
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:30,639
Speaker 2: host the Group of five five group of five episodes

1372
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:32,719
Speaker 2: and either Colin I will join for each of those.

1373
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 2: We will have Colin on the episodes. Colin I do

1374
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 2: we have the same format. First down, we'll talk a

1375
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:42,599
Speaker 2: week zero week one angle that we like of related

1376
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 2: to that league. Then week two excuse me, second down

1377
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 2: we will talk an over future, and then third down

1378
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 2: we will talk and under. So let's start with first down,

1379
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 2: Week one angle. I think I already spoiled mine Colorada State.

1380
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:59,759
Speaker 2: Two touchdowns are better at home against Washington State. Mentioned

1381
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 2: some of the reasons why I think Washington State might

1382
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 2: be a bit over valued, and I think, especially early on,

1383
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 2: you might see some growing pains on both sides of

1384
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 2: the ball, and I think Colorada State could be a

1385
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 2: bit more improved than the market implies here early on.

1386
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 2: We'll get to some of that in a Mountain West

1387
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 2: episode end as we get closer two weeks zero and

1388
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 2: week one, So I'll go with the Rams. It's weird

1389
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 2: because you had like a new air raid last year

1390
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 2: with Colorado State. Now you're gonna have like a new

1391
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:27,679
Speaker 2: arai this year. And then in week the first game,

1392
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 2: I think Calada State will benefit from that. Year two,

1393
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 2: Washington State might have some growing pains. Early on, you're

1394
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 2: catching two touchdowns against the defense that has a lot

1395
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 2: of holes to fill from losses of last year. Colin,

1396
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 2: what are you looking at for a week zero Week

1397
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 2: one PAC twelve related?

1398
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 1: Norville's got a lot of new pieces on offense. Good

1399
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 1: and check the action app I got a game of

1400
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 1: the year in there that involves a PAC twelve teams,

1401
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 1: So go ahead and check that out. I had to

1402
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 1: in here. I already mentioned game of the yearline. I'm

1403
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 1: taking Oregon State plus seven and a half in the

1404
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 1: Civil War against Oregon. Oregon State is going to dominate

1405
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 1: defensive front sevens. It cannot stop the run and that

1406
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 1: is a serious problem for Organ. So I'm going to

1407
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 1: take the points. Now a game that I don't know

1408
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 1: could be three and a half four depends on how

1409
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 1: Organ season goes. We'll see how injuries go by the

1410
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 1: time that gets around. If I had to do a

1411
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 1: week one line. I would tell everybody. I know it's

1412
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 1: not comfortable, but that Florida Utah line right now as

1413
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 1: we record is an eight and a half. I expect

1414
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 1: that thing to close about six and a half six.

1415
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:29,719
Speaker 1: When that camerasing news comes down, it will dip below seven.

1416
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 1: And we're a month out I think from kick. So

1417
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 1: you know that if you need a week zero week

1418
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 1: one line that you can handle it. If you can

1419
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 1: stomach it, take Florida, you can come back on Utah

1420
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 1: because it's going to did below seven.

1421
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with that. The market from things

1422
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 2: that you said early on in this episode of then

1423
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:55,759
Speaker 2: you could also just see the market moving in that direction,

1424
01:13:55,920 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 2: then it will likely continue to do so. By the way,

1425
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 2: Colors state Tory Horton, I can't wait to watch him

1426
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 2: this year. All right, let's go second down, either an

1427
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 2: over or a future.

1428
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:11,639
Speaker 1: Here's the thing about the future.

1429
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 3: Every time you look at it, the changes because you

1430
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 3: looked at it.

1431
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw out the over. I didn't bet any

1432
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 2: overs of the PAC twelve yet. I just I trust

1433
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 2: to bore in that watching no offense to think the

1434
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 2: defense will be improved. Not I don't the number. I'm

1435
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 2: not My numbers aren't quite there for me to bet it.

1436
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 2: But if I were to bet one over in the

1437
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 2: Pac twelve, it would be Washington. But I'll throw out

1438
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 2: a future on Oregon State, and you know you've run

1439
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 2: eleven to one. I think twelve to one you could

1440
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 2: find out there. We're gonna have an elite offensive line.

1441
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 2: I don't think the defensive losses are as bad. It's

1442
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 2: good they're gonna take a step back on defense, but

1443
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 2: I don't think they're as bad as some are implying.

1444
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:55,759
Speaker 2: And mainly, this is just a bet on two things.

1445
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 2: If Dju hits his upside, the talent is there new

1446
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:02,640
Speaker 2: change of scenery scheme. If he hits his upside with

1447
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 2: that schedule, you know all their hardest games are at

1448
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 2: home at Reser, then there's going to be an opportunity

1449
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 2: for Oregon State to find its way to the PAC

1450
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 2: twelve championship game. So give me the Beavers. How about

1451
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 2: you over or future that you want to mention in

1452
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 2: the back twelve.

1453
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 1: Let's do a future. Let's do UCLA sixteen to one.

1454
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 1: There's fourteen to one in the market, go ahead and

1455
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 1: grab that too. The reason why the number is so

1456
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 1: in placed because there's so much turnover going on at

1457
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 1: the skill positions. Quarterback Colin Schlee comes in from Kent State.

1458
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 1: Garber's is still there, and then Dante Moore, the freshman everything,

1459
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 1: the blue chip that you know could be Caleb Williams

1460
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 1: esque on the other side of town here is going

1461
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 1: to be taking the reins in. At some point. They

1462
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:48,759
Speaker 1: absolutely reloaded at skill positions. They went and got Carson

1463
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 1: Steele running back from the MAC. And then on the

1464
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, they have really filled a

1465
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 1: ton of holes that they have and their defensive coordinator,

1466
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 1: even though that he has passed away, they have dipped

1467
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 1: into the Ravens staff at Baltimore ra and staffed to

1468
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 1: pull Danton Lynn, who's going to be calling the place

1469
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 1: for the first time ever. But if there's a correlation

1470
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 1: to what Michigan has done with clicking coaches from the

1471
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 1: raven staff, this UCLA defense should be just fine. Back

1472
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:14,719
Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball, We've never worried

1473
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 1: about UCLA offense when they've had Ryan Gunderson at the

1474
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:20,719
Speaker 1: quarterback coach position. Give me a team that nobody's talking about,

1475
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:24,439
Speaker 1: nobody's expecting everybody's really hot on USC and Washington, but

1476
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:27,719
Speaker 1: UCLA is right there with him. I have been projecting

1477
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 1: within one conference win of all the big boys here

1478
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 1: in this conference. So take them to win the Pac

1479
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 1: twelve championship.

1480
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, another team with a quarterback who if he gets

1481
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 2: a shot and the upside hits, they're certainly going to

1482
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 2: be much better than expected another, which is what's something

1483
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 2: you're looking for when you take these semi long shot

1484
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 2: futures preseason. And finally, one last test to get to

1485
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 2: and that's third down, your favorite under. If we might

1486
01:16:56,320 --> 01:17:00,720
Speaker 2: agree here, I'm going under Cal. Offense such still be

1487
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:03,520
Speaker 2: a mess under new offensive coordinator with a new quarterback.

1488
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 2: The defense could be okay, but the schedule is just

1489
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 2: brtal the only team that Pack twelve that plays all

1490
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 2: six of the top projected teams in the league, throwing

1491
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 2: a home game against Auburn as well. I just do

1492
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 2: not see this team getting to six wins under Cal.

1493
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 1: We under for Coal. For me, on the defensive side

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Speaker 1: of the ball, Peter Sermon did not make any headway

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Speaker 1: and improving a defense that finished third at last and

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Speaker 1: success rate. And this is not the year to have

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Speaker 1: questions to be inexperienced in the PAC twelve because the

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Speaker 1: rest of the offenses in this conference can absolutely hum

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Speaker 1: under five.

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Speaker 2: For cal wouldn't even shock me if they lost at

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Speaker 2: North Texas in week one and then you'd be sitting

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Speaker 2: really pretty with that one total. All right, that'll do

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Speaker 2: it for us. Really fun episode. It's been a blast

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Speaker 2: as always, Colin, it's good to be back. We will

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Speaker 2: have many more Colex Football Betting preview episodes leading right

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Speaker 2: up two weeks zero, which will be before we now.

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Speaker 2: But thanks for tuning in and thanks for our producers

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Speaker 2: on the back end. Thanks of course, once again to

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Speaker 2: all of you. Make sure you subscribe on subscribe, subcribe

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Speaker 2: star review. They really help us out. We'll do a

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Speaker 2: bunch of giveaways for anyone that leads one throughout the

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Speaker 2: preseason and regular season, So if you already left one,

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Speaker 2: just grab someone else's phone, your girlfriend, boyfriend, or friend

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Speaker 2: especially early in the season. It's time for us to

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Speaker 2: keep on grinding. But that'll do it for this episode.

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Speaker 2: We will catch all later. Cheers.

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Speaker 1: He's out.

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