Speaker 1: It's nine O gene one old Engine with Jenny Garth
Speaker 1: and Tory spelling.
Speaker 2: So this is really exciting.
Speaker 3: We have the one and only Tracy Gillian played by
Speaker 3: Jill Novic on Today Ben's Love Interest season seven bringing.
Speaker 2: In the ladies.
Speaker 4: Hi guys, Hi, Oh my gosh, this is so wild,
Speaker 4: it's crazy.
Speaker 2: How are you aware?
Speaker 5: Are you?
Speaker 4: I'm in Albuquerque?
Speaker 2: Oh that sounds nice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I moved here about eight years ago.
Speaker 2: Do you like it?
Speaker 4: I do? I do. I mean, you know, it's funny.
Speaker 4: I was just talking about that with someone. There's you know,
Speaker 4: I miss La in a lot of ways.
Speaker 6: But.
Speaker 2: Do you what do you miss about it?
Speaker 4: Well, we were going over all the things that I
Speaker 4: don't miss about it, like the traffic honestly.
Speaker 2: Mostly food, food options, you know.
Speaker 4: Just and I miss my friends and things like that.
Speaker 4: But the weather here is great, and it's just it's
Speaker 4: just a different kind of lifestyle where it's just not
Speaker 4: so focused around the business. And I was able to
Speaker 4: buy a house, which I would not have been able
Speaker 4: to do if I stayed in La. So I was
Speaker 4: really wanting to do that, and you know, I feel
Speaker 4: good about that.
Speaker 3: Thanks for making this work on your I know it's
Speaker 3: spring break this week.
Speaker 4: Great, it is, it's spring break, and I'm I'm still
Speaker 4: going into work. I'm going to go into work after
Speaker 4: this because I have a show. We're doing Guys and
Speaker 4: Dolls and it is we have when we get back
Speaker 4: from spring break. We only have two weeks, so I'm
Speaker 4: getting nervous and you know, so yeah, we have a
Speaker 4: bunch of stuff to do over spring break, mostly painting
Speaker 4: sets and things like that.
Speaker 2: I can't believe you are a teacher of theater in
Speaker 2: tell me that again.
Speaker 4: No, Albuquerque, Albuquerque, Albuque.
Speaker 2: I wanted to say, Santa fe in Albuquerque. This is wild.
Speaker 2: I love it. I love this for you. What is
Speaker 2: it like teaching I'm fascinated. What's it like teaching theater
Speaker 2: to is it high school kids?
Speaker 4: High school? I mean it's great giving them the opportunity
Speaker 4: to have the experiences that I had when I was
Speaker 4: you know, when I decided to leave the business, I
Speaker 4: just kind of was like, what what do I really
Speaker 4: want to do and sort of giving that ex I
Speaker 4: had when I was in high school, you know, seemed
Speaker 4: to be the thing. So I went back to school and.
Speaker 2: It's like full circle. It is, but too soon in
Speaker 2: your life to be too full circle.
Speaker 4: So getting up there, getting up there.
Speaker 2: We all yeah, wait, wait, let's go back to back
Speaker 2: in the day. Can we just go back to the
Speaker 2: nineties please, Cuz.
Speaker 4: I not that I remember a lot, but I would
Speaker 4: like to.
Speaker 3: Go back to the nineties. But know what I know now? Oh,
Speaker 3: you know, like it would be the perfect timing.
Speaker 2: I don't think the nineties were ready for us to
Speaker 2: know what we know now.
Speaker 4: I mean we not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like the nineties are never going away,
Speaker 3: Like that's the small nostalgia era.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they do.
Speaker 3: They try to do the Y two K the early
Speaker 3: two thousands, and then everyone's like, now, let's go back
Speaker 3: to the nineties.
Speaker 4: Let's go back to the nineties. Yeah yeah, But aren't
Speaker 4: like Pete and Brian doing a nineties podcast? Yeah, And
Speaker 4: I know they have that nineties calm thing because that
Speaker 4: a lot of you guys went to because my friend
Speaker 4: went on. Yeah, my friend Linda is the voice of
Speaker 4: Princess Jasmine, and so I told her, I said, oh,
Speaker 4: the nine or two and no cast is supposed to
Speaker 4: be there. I found out. I think I found out
Speaker 4: from Pete.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we'll be there. Hartford Connecticut.
Speaker 4: Oh there's another one this year. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: oh cool.
Speaker 2: Can you tell us about when you joined the show, Like,
Speaker 2: what was the auditioning process for you? I love, we
Speaker 2: love asking our co stars to take us back to
Speaker 2: that moment because it's such a pivotal, exciting moment in
Speaker 2: most people's lives at that time.
Speaker 4: Was yeah, okay, So I had auditioned for the show
Speaker 4: three previous times. One was the pilot. I read for Brenda,
Speaker 4: and then I also read for Val and you tested
Speaker 4: for Val right tested for a Val. It was me
Speaker 4: and Tiffany at the final things and it was like
Speaker 4: one of those things where I walked out of the
Speaker 4: room and I was in the hallway and I saw
Speaker 4: her and I said, Oh, she's going to get it.
Speaker 2: Oh no, you spoke it into exist.
Speaker 4: I did, because she was on say by the Bell
Speaker 4: and she I don't know if she still was dating Brian,
Speaker 4: but she had dated Britain, you know, and I.
Speaker 2: Was still dating at the time.
Speaker 4: Like see, so exactly like I'm not going to get it,
Speaker 4: She's gonna get it, and I, yes, I popped that in.
Speaker 4: And then I also auditioned for Remember the piano Player
Speaker 4: Girl the Ice skater. No, she dated David, but I yes,
Speaker 4: exactly exactly.
Speaker 2: She was vision impaired, right.
Speaker 4: I don't remember that. Maybe maybe I auditioned for that
Speaker 4: part too, so it had been three times already, and
Speaker 4: when they called me in for Tracy.
Speaker 2: They made you read for Tracy.
Speaker 4: After all that, I still come on, guys, of course
Speaker 4: I still did. I remember, I remember the dress I
Speaker 4: was wearing, and I remember sitting in the waiting room
Speaker 4: and for some reason, I felt really confident this time.
Speaker 4: And yeah, so that so that you know, I had
Speaker 4: it in. I had like, am I finally gonna Is
Speaker 4: it finally going to happen? And it wound.
Speaker 3: Up not even third time to the charm, fourth time,
Speaker 3: the third time.
Speaker 2: Wait, did you know right away that you'd be playing
Speaker 2: Brandon Walsh's love interest?
Speaker 4: Yes, and I was very excited about that. You know.
Speaker 4: It's funny also when I listened to the Mark Dalton
Speaker 4: episode that you guys did, because I was trying to,
Speaker 4: you know, I wanted to hear the podcast before I
Speaker 4: came on, and so I listened to his episode because
Speaker 4: I worked with him quite a bit, and it was
Speaker 4: just there were so many things that I related to
Speaker 4: that he said so many things. And one of the
Speaker 4: things that you know, people also always ask about the
Speaker 4: first day on the set, or like meeting you guys,
Speaker 4: And I have no memory of meeting anyone for the
Speaker 4: first time except for Jason. It was in the production office,
Speaker 4: and I was so nervous. Yeah, yeah, so nervous, and
Speaker 4: that's but that's all I remember about.
Speaker 2: You were just probably so focused on like, that's my guy.
Speaker 2: I've got to really make an impression on him and
Speaker 2: do well or whatever.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Probably, And yeah, I mean I had I had
Speaker 4: after because, of course, because I auditioned for the pilot,
Speaker 4: so I was curious from the very beginning. So I
Speaker 4: watched the show for six years before I was cast
Speaker 4: on it. And you know, that's just always such a
Speaker 4: weird thing. And like Mark said, you kind you know
Speaker 4: that you guys are already a family that have been
Speaker 4: working together for six years and here you are coming
Speaker 4: in and so it's so nerve wracking, it's really. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but I do know that everyone made me feel really comfortable,
Speaker 4: even though I don't remember the first meeting. I know
Speaker 4: that that you know, that nervousness kind of well, I
Speaker 4: mean it never completely went away, but you know, when
Speaker 4: I like watch scenes, I remember how nervous I was
Speaker 4: to do a particular scene or something. But but I
Speaker 4: do know that I felt very comfortable with with you
Speaker 4: guys after a while, you know, and honestly, especially Tori.
Speaker 3: Yes, we became really really good friends. And John and
Speaker 3: I used to hang out all the time. Yes, offset
Speaker 3: so that was a really fun time. I really enjoyed
Speaker 3: our friendship and we too, me too, and bummed we
Speaker 3: lost touch. I know, I think about you all the time,
Speaker 3: you though, I really do. Oh, that's some of ye
Speaker 3: really pivotal years for me. You went through some bad
Speaker 3: relationships with me, and.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, yeah, but you know what, toy, I look,
Speaker 4: I look back on it completely like same same as
Speaker 4: you just said. Like we had so much fun. We
Speaker 4: were such good friends. It was one of the most
Speaker 4: fun times in my life. I mean, like everything from
Speaker 4: going to Hawaii. I have I have pictures of that
Speaker 4: Hawaii trip.
Speaker 2: It's so fun. Wait, you guys went to Hawaii. You
Speaker 2: were having a baby.
Speaker 4: Jenny wasn't there.
Speaker 2: I wasn't having a baby.
Speaker 3: Mamma, you were having your baby. I thought there was
Speaker 3: all in Hawaii that you just had the baby.
Speaker 4: Oh, my gosh, I didn't even remember that, that's true.
Speaker 2: Oh wow.
Speaker 3: And then we flew home to lax and remember you
Speaker 3: came to pick us up and got shot in the
Speaker 3: parking lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that I remember that.
Speaker 4: I do not get.
Speaker 2: You were Hawaii.
Speaker 4: I went home, I think earlier than you.
Speaker 2: Because you guys broke up.
Speaker 7: Is that what happened? Wait?
Speaker 2: You broke up in Hawaii?
Speaker 4: No, we were already broken up. He ran into me
Speaker 4: with my new fiance, right.
Speaker 2: But this all happened in season seven.
Speaker 4: It was the beginning of season eight. It was the
Speaker 4: first episode of season eight, and so that was an
Speaker 4: amazing thing. Also, after the whole like saying goodbye to
Speaker 4: me and me being off the show and whatever, and
Speaker 4: then I got a call saying, hey, do you want
Speaker 4: to do the first episode of season eight with us
Speaker 4: in Hawaii? And I was like, yes, I do, and
Speaker 4: it was great. One thing I always remember, Tori, is
Speaker 4: you being afraid to fly and you being so happy
Speaker 4: that I was there to sit with you and hold you.
Speaker 2: Yes. Oh did she clutch your wrist and like draw blood?
Speaker 4: Almost?
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, that's I'm getting a good picture.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were there, you were with us for more
Speaker 2: than twenty episodes.
Speaker 4: I did, like twenty three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you know in the beginning that you.
Speaker 3: Were going to do that night?
Speaker 4: Maybe not, because I don't think I was in the
Speaker 4: first three of that season, and then I came on.
Speaker 4: I don't There was a number that they gave me,
Speaker 4: you're going to be in this many out of this many,
Speaker 4: and I can't remember exactly what it was. So I did.
Speaker 4: I did know that. I did know that my character
Speaker 4: was brought on to keep Kelly and Brandon apart for
Speaker 4: another season, like that was the you know, and and
Speaker 4: they did tell me that, But of course I had
Speaker 4: that like wish that they would keep me. I remember
Speaker 4: always thinking, well, they kept Kathleen, they kept her character,
Speaker 4: why can't they you know, like remember like she was
Speaker 4: originally for Brandon and then they didn't. Yeah, she was
Speaker 4: with Steve, and so I I hoped for that, but yeah,
Speaker 4: it didn't happen.
Speaker 2: They had big Brandon and Kelly plans, sound like from
Speaker 2: that beginning of that season.
Speaker 4: They did they were going to get you guys together
Speaker 4: at the end, and you know that there was going
Speaker 4: to be that big conflict and everything. I'm sure they
Speaker 4: knew like that Terracy was going to find the ring
Speaker 4: and that, you know, that whole ring thing.
Speaker 2: I didn't ever remember. We're so excited. We're watching it
Speaker 2: back now we don't remember hardly anything.
Speaker 4: It's it's hard to remember. But but did you see
Speaker 4: the part where she finds the ring?
Speaker 2: No, we're not there. Where are we now? We're just
Speaker 2: we just met our first episode.
Speaker 3: Oh really, we're watching right now.
Speaker 2: Where you go get drunk with the guys.
Speaker 8: Right, you're really cute when you're drunk by So see,
Speaker 8: I was so nervous, like whenever I see you know,
Speaker 8: like when I did Pete's podcast, he sent me episodes
Speaker 8: and whenever I see them, I'm just like, oh my god,
Speaker 8: I remember how nervous.
Speaker 4: I was that episode. You know, my first episode. I
Speaker 4: was just so I was like, am I going to
Speaker 4: do drunk? Okay? Am I going to be you know?
Speaker 4: It was just really nervous, nervous.
Speaker 3: So we couldn't figure out how Racy's so drunk. But
Speaker 3: then she sobers up so quickly to be on there.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the best newscaster ever ever.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, like a miracle. How did that happen
Speaker 4: so fast? Even that was like really difficult for me
Speaker 4: to kind of get a handle on because I was
Speaker 4: not used to like looking right into the camera and talking,
Speaker 4: you know, so that was kind of a thing I
Speaker 4: had to get used to as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not easy. That's not as easy as people think.
Speaker 4: It is definitely not. It's definitely not.
Speaker 2: Did you start getting recognized from the show right away?
Speaker 4: Like, oh, oh, yes I did. It was just amazing
Speaker 4: to me how popular the show was and how everyone
Speaker 4: started recognizing me. And of course, you know, I was
Speaker 4: with Tory a lot when I was on the show,
Speaker 4: so obviously she would get recognized first, and then they
Speaker 4: would see that it was me and then recognize me too.
Speaker 4: But I remember I went to Tory bow know, we
Speaker 4: were not together at this. I went with some friends
Speaker 4: of mine to a hockey All Star game and like
Speaker 4: the hockey players and their fathers and like, they were
Speaker 4: all recognizing me. We walked, me and my friends walked
Speaker 4: into a restaurant like to eat lunch or something, and
Speaker 4: people were recognizing me. I mean, it was crazy. It
Speaker 4: was Yeah, it was insane.
Speaker 2: I love that. Wait can we talk about the even
Speaker 2: on Love Boat after? Because this gets really exciting for me.
Speaker 4: That was you guys asked Mark, like about did he
Speaker 4: just get offered the part or did he do whatever?
Speaker 4: That was the only part in my career up to
Speaker 4: that point that I had gotten offered.
Speaker 7: Ry.
Speaker 4: Your dad just offered me the part and loved you.
Speaker 4: He put me with Greg Okay, I can't remember if
Speaker 4: that's his real name or his name.
Speaker 2: On Gosh, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Remember I think he played the fireman, Greg Vaughn, Greg Vaughn,
Speaker 4: I remember that. I remember that name.
Speaker 2: I'm impressed right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, yeah, yeah, your dad hired me and
Speaker 4: Greg to be a couple on the love Boat, and
Speaker 4: I got to work with with Marion Ross, miss Missus
Speaker 4: Happy Days, Dick Van Patten. I mean, it was an
Speaker 4: amazing experience and I got to work with was it Anson?
Speaker 4: I think it was Anson Williams who had directed us
Speaker 4: in and a Lot. So it was just like, I'll
Speaker 4: tell you that performance was one of my most favorite
Speaker 4: performances because I had the confidence of like, well, I
Speaker 4: was offered the role and I had worked with the
Speaker 4: director a bunch of times before, and you know, so
Speaker 4: it was just like I was really happy with that show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody loves a straight offer. Oh my god, yeah,
Speaker 2: remember those that was amazing? Was that your dog?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Oh, and that was That's another thing Tori I had.
Speaker 4: This is Prince Hi, Prince I had, Well, you met
Speaker 4: Sumo when I got him. I have a picture of
Speaker 4: you holding my.
Speaker 2: Pug Iron.
Speaker 4: And I had him for fifteen years and then I
Speaker 4: got another pug, a black one that I had for
Speaker 4: ten years, and then I rescued Prince. So but I
Speaker 4: I remember, I remember going over to your house and
Speaker 4: seeing all your dogs and how they were.
Speaker 2: So do you have a dog to yes, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Pugs are irreplaceable.
Speaker 3: And you have a pug and then you get another one,
Speaker 3: you always think they're going to be the same, but
Speaker 3: they're each so different.
Speaker 2: What I can I ask you a question about the teaching, Yeah,
Speaker 2: of your what do you what's the one thing? And
Speaker 2: you you said you wish you know I'm hearing you
Speaker 2: say kind of like I wish I had that confidence
Speaker 2: in the beginning that I found after after doing it.
Speaker 2: What do you do talk to the kids about what
Speaker 2: the confidence that they need.
Speaker 4: Get the role that he wanted in musical and I
Speaker 4: had to have and he was very upset and I
Speaker 4: had to have that conversation with him, like, you're not
Speaker 4: going to get most of the parts that you want,
Speaker 4: Like you have to understand how tough the business is
Speaker 4: and the rejection that you're going to feel all the time.
Speaker 4: And you know you're going to get lucky maybe and
Speaker 4: get apart every once in a while, but it's just
Speaker 4: you're not going to get all the parts that you want,
Speaker 4: and you have to accept that and know that, and
Speaker 4: you know, be okay.
Speaker 2: With that if it bounce back from it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you want to do this as a as
Speaker 4: a profession, you have to you have to be able
Speaker 4: to you know, you have to have thick skin.
Speaker 3: Or you become the under study and take out the lead.
Speaker 3: It's one two options here.
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Speaker 3: Can we ask you, because you mentioned there when you
Speaker 3: decided to leave the business and move yes, was there
Speaker 3: one defining moment that made it clear to you to
Speaker 3: leave for not exactly.
Speaker 4: I worked a lot following it, right, I did Love Boat,
Speaker 4: I did a other shows. I did like three independent films,
Speaker 4: and those were basically just offered to me because they
Speaker 4: knew me from right. But then I had a really slow,
Speaker 4: like two year period where I couldn't get arrested. I
Speaker 4: could barely get into a room like for an audition,
Speaker 4: and the depression set in and just you know, not knowing,
Speaker 4: I just I was broke. I didn't I didn't want
Speaker 4: I was struggling with like I didn't want to go
Speaker 4: back to waitressing because I just felt like, how could
Speaker 4: you go from not into and oh to being a waitress?
Speaker 4: Like how could you know? And that was when after
Speaker 4: a couple of years and I was so depressed, I
Speaker 4: decided to maybe start pulling away and I went through
Speaker 4: a break. Do you remember my boyfriend John, John and
Speaker 4: I broke up after six seven years I can't remember.
Speaker 4: And so I moved to to Panga and I started
Speaker 4: bartending at Arrest at Abbolita's. And guess who one of
Speaker 4: my first customers was, No toy is gonna freak out?
Speaker 4: Barry Watson No, because you know he lived up there, right,
Speaker 4: I'm sure you remember Chicken who became like best friends
Speaker 4: with and lived with three times. They lived up there,
Speaker 4: and so but you know, so I remember like having
Speaker 4: that conversation with him, like this is so I can't
Speaker 4: believe I'm you know, it was just but anyway, I
Speaker 4: started bartending and then and made the decision to go
Speaker 4: back to school because I just needed something. I needed
Speaker 4: to know when my next paycheck was coming. I needed
Speaker 4: to have like a stable life. I was already in
Speaker 4: my mid thirties, and it was just like, I don't know,
Speaker 4: I couldn't hang on anymore. I sometimes regret that decision,
Speaker 4: you know, but most of the time, I don't.
Speaker 2: Would you go back if something came to you, like
Speaker 2: if there was a role you really wanted, I don't.
Speaker 4: Know that I would want to put myself back in.
Speaker 4: I tell you, it's like it's so nice to just
Speaker 4: like I let myself go gray. I gained a little weight,
Speaker 4: I you know, like you still have the best hair,
Speaker 4: though I can all thank you not having head of hair.
Speaker 4: Yes it's a huge head of hair. It still is,
Speaker 4: but you know, just not being so focused on that
Speaker 4: aspect anymore. The physical and the howard you know, is
Speaker 4: really nice.
Speaker 2: It's freeing. I bet, yeah it is.
Speaker 4: I mean I've done like when I was going back
Speaker 4: to school, I did a play because I actually was
Speaker 4: assistant directing and someone dropped out, so they asked me
Speaker 4: to take the part. You know, when I moved here
Speaker 4: and I did a play, I did Steal Magnolias at
Speaker 4: one of the theaters here because I just I wanted
Speaker 4: to meet people, and you know, so it had been
Speaker 4: like fifteen years since I had been on stage and
Speaker 4: I and I did that. I you know, so I
Speaker 4: dabble a little bit, but I just I don't know,
Speaker 4: I don't think so maybe maybe it's not like anyone's
Speaker 4: knocking down my door asking me to pay anything.
Speaker 2: Just keep it. If you're open to it, you never
Speaker 2: know what will happen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3: That's Can you come back to visit often or no?
Speaker 4: Not often? When I moved to Albuquerque, I thought I
Speaker 4: was so close to La, you know, so at the beginning,
Speaker 4: I came back a lot. But I haven't been in
Speaker 4: about I don't know, four years. I haven't been back
Speaker 4: to LA. And my friends are like slowly moving out
Speaker 4: of LA too. I mean it's just everyone. A lot
Speaker 4: of a lot of my friends have left, and so
Speaker 4: I just were our leaving and I thought about it,
Speaker 4: like I have one friend now that I would care
Speaker 4: about coming to visit and you know. So I don't know, yeah,
Speaker 4: not not often.
Speaker 2: Well, it seems like you are living your life on
Speaker 2: your terms, and you seem very comfortable and very happy,
Speaker 2: and that is so nice to see.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I am. I can I can say I haven't
Speaker 4: been depressed. And since, you know, when I was here,
Speaker 4: I started seeing a therapist and went on meds. And
Speaker 4: that was another thing you guys talked about with Mark,
Speaker 4: so I thought i'd bring it up. It was like
Speaker 4: really holding me down for a long time, and then
Speaker 4: my therapist really helped me, like start reframing my thoughts,
Speaker 4: you know, instead of being so negative and why me?
Speaker 4: And you know, and so since then, I have been
Speaker 4: depression free and happy, and you know, I'm glad I
Speaker 4: made the decision to come here. The teaching is starting
Speaker 4: to you know, I'm starting to get burnt out on it,
Speaker 4: because I did. I taught in LA for sixty year
Speaker 4: Culver City High School, and I got burnt out on that.
Speaker 2: Don't you get to retire soon.
Speaker 4: Though, well, not until I'm sixty.
Speaker 2: Sixty seven, ohjeven, I always forget the number. I thought,
Speaker 2: you guys, I thought you could retire when you're fifty
Speaker 2: nine and a half that doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 4: Because I'm fifty nine. I can't retire, but I.
Speaker 2: Did, and you're not fifty nine.
Speaker 4: I am fifty nine and I took I took my
Speaker 4: SAG pension early. Oh, that's why I saved up money
Speaker 4: to buy the house.
Speaker 2: Amazing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because teachers.
Speaker 7: Don't make that much.
Speaker 2: No, God, I can't believe in fifty nine.
Speaker 3: That is blowing my mind.
Speaker 2: So you only have we don't look seven more years,
Speaker 2: eight more years, eight more years? Can can you do it?
Speaker 4: We'll see, we'll see. I do dream about, you know,
Speaker 4: having some other kind of job, but who knows. I
Speaker 4: could get another kind of job and not like you know,
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see. That's all you can do is say,
Speaker 2: we'll see and see where the chips fall? Yeah, never
Speaker 2: know what's going to happen. Is that a term? See
Speaker 2: where the chips fall?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Isn't that?
Speaker 7: Never rid of that one?
Speaker 2: Am I making another thing up? I know the cookie
Speaker 2: crumbles and the chips fall or I eat them all.
Speaker 3: Like in Vegas like yeah, not like the chips Okay.
Speaker 2: I don't know, could be wrong. Don't listen to me. Well,
Speaker 2: I'm happy that your chips have fallen in a place
Speaker 2: that make you so happy.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Keep it up because you are awesome and you're just beautiful.
Speaker 4: Thank you. You guys are beautiful too.
Speaker 2: You got that dog there, What could be wrong? Yeah,
Speaker 2: y