WEBVTT - 9021One-On-One: Jill Novick 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:04.280 It's nine O gene one old Engine with Jenny Garth 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:05.480 and Tory spelling. 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:10.520 So this is really exciting. 0:00:10.600 --> 0:00:13.760 We have the one and only Tracy Gillian played by 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:20.000 Jill Novic on Today Ben's Love Interest season seven bringing. 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:20.520 In the ladies. 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:27.400 Hi guys, Hi, Oh my gosh, this is so wild, 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:29.000 it's crazy. 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:30.800 How are you aware? 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:31.080 Are you? 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:32.640 I'm in Albuquerque? 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:34.480 Oh that sounds nice. 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:37.520 Yeah, I moved here about eight years ago. 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:38.920 Do you like it? 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:41.880 I do? I do. I mean, you know, it's funny. 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:44.960 I was just talking about that with someone. There's you know, 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:47.680 I miss La in a lot of ways. 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:47.519 But. 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:51.000 Do you what do you miss about it? 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:55.160 Well, we were going over all the things that I 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:58.840 don't miss about it, like the traffic honestly. 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:02.240 Mostly food, food options, you know. 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:06.800 Just and I miss my friends and things like that. 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:12.760 But the weather here is great, and it's just it's 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:16.200 just a different kind of lifestyle where it's just not 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:20.320 so focused around the business. And I was able to 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:23.039 buy a house, which I would not have been able 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:25.600 to do if I stayed in La. So I was 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:29.360 really wanting to do that, and you know, I feel 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:29.959 good about that. 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:32.600 Thanks for making this work on your I know it's 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:33.600 spring break this week. 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:37.720 Great, it is, it's spring break, and I'm I'm still 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:40.199 going into work. I'm going to go into work after 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:42.880 this because I have a show. We're doing Guys and 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:46.760 Dolls and it is we have when we get back 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:50.680 from spring break. We only have two weeks, so I'm 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:54.800 getting nervous and you know, so yeah, we have a 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:59.320 bunch of stuff to do over spring break, mostly painting 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:00.640 sets and things like that. 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:06.160 I can't believe you are a teacher of theater in 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:09.160 tell me that again. 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:12.280 No, Albuquerque, Albuquerque, Albuque. 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:16.240 I wanted to say, Santa fe in Albuquerque. This is wild. 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:19.920 I love it. I love this for you. What is 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:23.400 it like teaching I'm fascinated. What's it like teaching theater 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:24.960 to is it high school kids? 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:30.520 High school? I mean it's great giving them the opportunity 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:33.800 to have the experiences that I had when I was 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:36.400 you know, when I decided to leave the business, I 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:39.760 just kind of was like, what what do I really 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:44.880 want to do and sort of giving that ex I 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:47.239 had when I was in high school, you know, seemed 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:52.040 to be the thing. So I went back to school and. 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:57.200 It's like full circle. It is, but too soon in 0:02:57.240 --> 0:02:58.880 your life to be too full circle. 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:03.080 So getting up there, getting up there. 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:08.080 We all yeah, wait, wait, let's go back to back 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:10.480 in the day. Can we just go back to the 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:12.040 nineties please, Cuz. 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:15.600 I not that I remember a lot, but I would 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:15.880 like to. 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:18.639 Go back to the nineties. But know what I know now? Oh, 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:22.079 you know, like it would be the perfect timing. 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:25.280 I don't think the nineties were ready for us to 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:26.280 know what we know now. 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:27.600 I mean we not. 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:30.840 Yeah, I feel like the nineties are never going away, 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:33.320 Like that's the small nostalgia era. 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:34.520 Yeah, they do. 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:37.040 They try to do the Y two K the early 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:39.120 two thousands, and then everyone's like, now, let's go back 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:39.640 to the nineties. 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:43.080 Let's go back to the nineties. Yeah yeah, But aren't 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:48.480 like Pete and Brian doing a nineties podcast? Yeah, And 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:51.960 I know they have that nineties calm thing because that 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:55.160 a lot of you guys went to because my friend 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:58.880 went on. Yeah, my friend Linda is the voice of 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:02.840 Princess Jasmine, and so I told her, I said, oh, 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:04.400 the nine or two and no cast is supposed to 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:05.840 be there. I found out. I think I found out 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:06.320 from Pete. 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:09.720 Yeah, yeah, we'll be there. Hartford Connecticut. 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:12.839 Oh there's another one this year. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:13.600 oh cool. 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:16.520 Can you tell us about when you joined the show, Like, 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:18.680 what was the auditioning process for you? I love, we 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:21.960 love asking our co stars to take us back to 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:24.640 that moment because it's such a pivotal, exciting moment in 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:26.440 most people's lives at that time. 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:31.000 Was yeah, okay, So I had auditioned for the show 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:35.480 three previous times. One was the pilot. I read for Brenda, 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:39.560 and then I also read for Val and you tested 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:41.719 for Val right tested for a Val. It was me 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:47.560 and Tiffany at the final things and it was like 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:50.440 one of those things where I walked out of the 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:51.880 room and I was in the hallway and I saw 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:54.320 her and I said, Oh, she's going to get it. 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:56.960 Oh no, you spoke it into exist. 0:04:57.240 --> 0:05:00.520 I did, because she was on say by the Bell 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:03.960 and she I don't know if she still was dating Brian, 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:05.880 but she had dated Britain, you know, and I. 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:07.080 Was still dating at the time. 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:11.480 Like see, so exactly like I'm not going to get it, 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:13.719 She's gonna get it, and I, yes, I popped that in. 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:17.560 And then I also auditioned for Remember the piano Player 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:23.320 Girl the Ice skater. No, she dated David, but I yes, 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:24.600 exactly exactly. 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:26.680 She was vision impaired, right. 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:30.200 I don't remember that. Maybe maybe I auditioned for that 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:33.680 part too, so it had been three times already, and 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:36.200 when they called me in for Tracy. 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:37.120 They made you read for Tracy. 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:41.480 After all that, I still come on, guys, of course 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:44.800 I still did. I remember, I remember the dress I 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:48.479 was wearing, and I remember sitting in the waiting room 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:51.520 and for some reason, I felt really confident this time. 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:56.040 And yeah, so that so that you know, I had 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:58.359 it in. I had like, am I finally gonna Is 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:01.920 it finally going to happen? And it wound. 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:03.920 Up not even third time to the charm, fourth time, 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:04.839 the third time. 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:07.240 Wait, did you know right away that you'd be playing 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:11.160 Brandon Walsh's love interest? 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:15.240 Yes, and I was very excited about that. You know. 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:20.440 It's funny also when I listened to the Mark Dalton 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:23.680 episode that you guys did, because I was trying to, 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:27.160 you know, I wanted to hear the podcast before I 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:31.599 came on, and so I listened to his episode because 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:35.960 I worked with him quite a bit, and it was 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:38.560 just there were so many things that I related to 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:43.240 that he said so many things. And one of the 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:45.920 things that you know, people also always ask about the 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:48.760 first day on the set, or like meeting you guys, 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:52.320 And I have no memory of meeting anyone for the 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:56.440 first time except for Jason. It was in the production office, 0:06:56.560 --> 0:07:02.279 and I was so nervous. Yeah, yeah, so nervous, and 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:04.040 that's but that's all I remember about. 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:07.680 You were just probably so focused on like, that's my guy. 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:10.160 I've got to really make an impression on him and 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:11.239 do well or whatever. 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:16.200 Yeah. Probably, And yeah, I mean I had I had 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.000 after because, of course, because I auditioned for the pilot, 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:21.000 so I was curious from the very beginning. So I 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:24.320 watched the show for six years before I was cast 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:27.080 on it. And you know, that's just always such a 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:30.640 weird thing. And like Mark said, you kind you know 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:33.880 that you guys are already a family that have been 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:37.160 working together for six years and here you are coming 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:41.240 in and so it's so nerve wracking, it's really. Yeah, 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:45.760 but I do know that everyone made me feel really comfortable, 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:48.000 even though I don't remember the first meeting. I know 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:51.720 that that you know, that nervousness kind of well, I 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:56.400 mean it never completely went away, but you know, when 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:59.200 I like watch scenes, I remember how nervous I was 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:03.080 to do a particular scene or something. But but I 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:08.680 do know that I felt very comfortable with with you 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:13.920 guys after a while, you know, and honestly, especially Tori. 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:17.200 Yes, we became really really good friends. And John and 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:20.440 I used to hang out all the time. Yes, offset 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:23.920 so that was a really fun time. I really enjoyed 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:27.760 our friendship and we too, me too, and bummed we 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:32.560 lost touch. I know, I think about you all the time, 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:35.960 you though, I really do. Oh, that's some of ye 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:39.240 really pivotal years for me. You went through some bad 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:41.080 relationships with me, and. 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:45.719 Yes, yeah, yeah, but you know what, toy, I look, 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:49.360 I look back on it completely like same same as 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:52.560 you just said. Like we had so much fun. We 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:56.280 were such good friends. It was one of the most 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:58.880 fun times in my life. I mean, like everything from 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:02.520 going to Hawaii. I have I have pictures of that 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:03.400 Hawaii trip. 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:18.920 It's so fun. Wait, you guys went to Hawaii. You 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:20.599 were having a baby. 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:22.720 Jenny wasn't there. 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:24.640 I wasn't having a baby. 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:27.760 Mamma, you were having your baby. I thought there was 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:31.160 all in Hawaii that you just had the baby. 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:34.840 Oh, my gosh, I didn't even remember that, that's true. 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:35.600 Oh wow. 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:39.080 And then we flew home to lax and remember you 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:40.600 came to pick us up and got shot in the 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:41.200 parking lot. 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:43.360 Yeah, that I remember that. 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:44.400 I do not get. 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:47.880 You were Hawaii. 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:50.680 I went home, I think earlier than you. 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:51.520 Because you guys broke up. 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:53.520 Is that what happened? Wait? 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:54.680 You broke up in Hawaii? 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:57.360 No, we were already broken up. He ran into me 0:09:57.440 --> 0:09:59.800 with my new fiance, right. 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:02.760 But this all happened in season seven. 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:05.840 It was the beginning of season eight. It was the 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:09.440 first episode of season eight, and so that was an 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:13.480 amazing thing. Also, after the whole like saying goodbye to 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:16.560 me and me being off the show and whatever, and 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:18.839 then I got a call saying, hey, do you want 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:20.880 to do the first episode of season eight with us 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:26.400 in Hawaii? And I was like, yes, I do, and 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:28.720 it was great. One thing I always remember, Tori, is 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:31.560 you being afraid to fly and you being so happy 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:33.719 that I was there to sit with you and hold you. 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:37.840 Yes. Oh did she clutch your wrist and like draw blood? 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:38.280 Almost? 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:41.520 Oh okay, yeah, that's I'm getting a good picture. 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:41.760 Now. 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:46.839 Yeah, you were there, you were with us for more 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:47.880 than twenty episodes. 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:49.280 I did, like twenty three. 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:52.000 Yeah, did you know in the beginning that you. 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:52.760 Were going to do that night? 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:55.360 Maybe not, because I don't think I was in the 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:58.079 first three of that season, and then I came on. 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:03.120 I don't There was a number that they gave me, 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:06.000 you're going to be in this many out of this many, 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:10.880 and I can't remember exactly what it was. So I did. 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:14.200 I did know that. I did know that my character 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:17.920 was brought on to keep Kelly and Brandon apart for 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:21.840 another season, like that was the you know, and and 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:26.680 they did tell me that, But of course I had 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:29.840 that like wish that they would keep me. I remember 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:34.520 always thinking, well, they kept Kathleen, they kept her character, 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:36.920 why can't they you know, like remember like she was 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:40.920 originally for Brandon and then they didn't. Yeah, she was 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:46.439 with Steve, and so I I hoped for that, but yeah, 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:47.480 it didn't happen. 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:52.920 They had big Brandon and Kelly plans, sound like from 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:54.720 that beginning of that season. 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:56.720 They did they were going to get you guys together 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:59.560 at the end, and you know that there was going 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:02.760 to be that big conflict and everything. I'm sure they 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:05.320 knew like that Terracy was going to find the ring 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:07.440 and that, you know, that whole ring thing. 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:11.520 I didn't ever remember. We're so excited. We're watching it 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:13.640 back now we don't remember hardly anything. 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:18.640 It's it's hard to remember. But but did you see 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:20.440 the part where she finds the ring? 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:23.000 No, we're not there. Where are we now? We're just 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:24.920 we just met our first episode. 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:27.040 Oh really, we're watching right now. 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:28.400 Where you go get drunk with the guys. 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:32.920 Right, you're really cute when you're drunk by So see, 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:36.080 I was so nervous, like whenever I see you know, 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:41.520 like when I did Pete's podcast, he sent me episodes 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:43.960 and whenever I see them, I'm just like, oh my god, 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:45.360 I remember how nervous. 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:48.320 I was that episode. You know, my first episode. I 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:50.400 was just so I was like, am I going to 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:53.320 do drunk? Okay? Am I going to be you know? 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:55.920 It was just really nervous, nervous. 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:59.680 So we couldn't figure out how Racy's so drunk. But 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:02.719 then she sobers up so quickly to be on there. 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:03.240 Yeah. 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:06.200 Yeah, the best newscaster ever ever. 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:08.600 Oh my god, like a miracle. How did that happen 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:11.400 so fast? Even that was like really difficult for me 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:15.080 to kind of get a handle on because I was 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:20.400 not used to like looking right into the camera and talking, 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:23.360 you know, so that was kind of a thing I 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:25.360 had to get used to as well. 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:28.200 Yeah, that's not easy. That's not as easy as people think. 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:30.880 It is definitely not. It's definitely not. 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:33.440 Did you start getting recognized from the show right away? 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:38.240 Like, oh, oh, yes I did. It was just amazing 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:40.520 to me how popular the show was and how everyone 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:43.960 started recognizing me. And of course, you know, I was 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:47.040 with Tory a lot when I was on the show, 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:52.480 so obviously she would get recognized first, and then they 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:55.400 would see that it was me and then recognize me too. 0:13:57.160 --> 0:14:00.480 But I remember I went to Tory bow know, we 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:03.560 were not together at this. I went with some friends 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:08.640 of mine to a hockey All Star game and like 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:13.079 the hockey players and their fathers and like, they were 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:15.959 all recognizing me. We walked, me and my friends walked 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:20.120 into a restaurant like to eat lunch or something, and 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:22.840 people were recognizing me. I mean, it was crazy. It 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:24.560 was Yeah, it was insane. 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:26.960 I love that. Wait can we talk about the even 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:31.240 on Love Boat after? Because this gets really exciting for me. 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:36.360 That was you guys asked Mark, like about did he 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:39.360 just get offered the part or did he do whatever? 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:43.480 That was the only part in my career up to 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:46.600 that point that I had gotten offered. 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:47.920 Ry. 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:51.520 Your dad just offered me the part and loved you. 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:56.960 He put me with Greg Okay, I can't remember if 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:58.880 that's his real name or his name. 0:14:58.760 --> 0:14:59.800 On Gosh, I don't know. 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:05.160 Remember I think he played the fireman, Greg Vaughn, Greg Vaughn, 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:08.480 I remember that. I remember that name. 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:09.960 I'm impressed right now. 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:16.680 Yeah, so yeah, yeah, yeah, your dad hired me and 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:19.320 Greg to be a couple on the love Boat, and 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:23.960 I got to work with with Marion Ross, miss Missus 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:28.720 Happy Days, Dick Van Patten. I mean, it was an 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:33.320 amazing experience and I got to work with was it Anson? 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:35.920 I think it was Anson Williams who had directed us 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:41.280 in and a Lot. So it was just like, I'll 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:44.080 tell you that performance was one of my most favorite 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:48.360 performances because I had the confidence of like, well, I 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:51.040 was offered the role and I had worked with the 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:54.120 director a bunch of times before, and you know, so 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:58.480 it was just like I was really happy with that show. 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:03.440 Yeah, everybody loves a straight offer. Oh my god, yeah, 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:07.040 remember those that was amazing? Was that your dog? 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:11.320 Yeah? Oh, and that was That's another thing Tori I had. 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:18.000 This is Prince Hi, Prince I had, Well, you met 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:20.400 Sumo when I got him. I have a picture of 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:21.200 you holding my. 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:22.960 Pug Iron. 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:28.040 And I had him for fifteen years and then I 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:31.520 got another pug, a black one that I had for 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:36.360 ten years, and then I rescued Prince. So but I 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:39.480 I remember, I remember going over to your house and 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:41.840 seeing all your dogs and how they were. 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:45.440 So do you have a dog to yes, Oh my gosh. 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:46.800 Pugs are irreplaceable. 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:49.040 And you have a pug and then you get another one, 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:50.440 you always think they're going to be the same, but 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:52.240 they're each so different. 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:57.960 What I can I ask you a question about the teaching, Yeah, 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:00.120 of your what do you what's the one thing? And 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:03.160 you you said you wish you know I'm hearing you 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:05.200 say kind of like I wish I had that confidence 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:10.600 in the beginning that I found after after doing it. 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:13.160 What do you do talk to the kids about what 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:15.080 the confidence that they need. 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:19.399 Get the role that he wanted in musical and I 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:24.520 had to have and he was very upset and I 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:28.040 had to have that conversation with him, like, you're not 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:30.320 going to get most of the parts that you want, 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:34.199 Like you have to understand how tough the business is 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:37.840 and the rejection that you're going to feel all the time. 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:41.720 And you know you're going to get lucky maybe and 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:44.479 get apart every once in a while, but it's just 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:46.280 you're not going to get all the parts that you want, 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:49.080 and you have to accept that and know that, and 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:50.520 you know, be okay. 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:51.800 With that if it bounce back from it. 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:54.000 Yeah, if you want to do this as a as 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:56.720 a profession, you have to you have to be able 0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:58.960 to you know, you have to have thick skin. 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:01.160 Or you become the under study and take out the lead. 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:03.080 It's one two options here. 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:15.560 Yeah, Hey they're folks. 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Before you can really understand the 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:03.679 eight weeks that you saw on TV, I think you 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:06.200 have to know what was going on from the very beginning, 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:09.560 from being raised by two immigrant parents, paying my own 0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:12.800 way through college and working at Hooters, to starting my 0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:16.960 own real estate empire, getting married, having a baby during COVID, 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:20.520 to that very same marriage falling apart on national TV, 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:24.199 to losing my mom, to eventually finding love again. There 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:27.000 is so much to unpack and share. I'm on the 0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:30.320 pursuit of happiness and most importantly, I'm on the pursuit 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:34.080 of sassiness. Listen to Pursuit of Sassiness starting on March 0:20:34.119 --> 0:20:38.119 seventeenth on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you 0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:41.520 get your podcasts. 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:45.520 Can we ask you, because you mentioned there when you 0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:48.600 decided to leave the business and move yes, was there 0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:51.639 one defining moment that made it clear to you to 0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:53.800 leave for not exactly. 0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:59.440 I worked a lot following it, right, I did Love Boat, 0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:03.800 I did a other shows. I did like three independent films, 0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:07.959 and those were basically just offered to me because they 0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:12.760 knew me from right. But then I had a really slow, 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:16.480 like two year period where I couldn't get arrested. I 0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:19.919 could barely get into a room like for an audition, 0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:25.480 and the depression set in and just you know, not knowing, 0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:28.880