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Speaker 1: It's nine O gene one old Engine with Jenny Garth

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Speaker 1: and Tory spelling.

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Speaker 2: So this is really exciting.

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Speaker 3: We have the one and only Tracy Gillian played by

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Speaker 3: Jill Novic on Today Ben's Love Interest season seven bringing.

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Speaker 2: In the ladies.

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Speaker 4: Hi guys, Hi, Oh my gosh, this is so wild,

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Speaker 4: it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: How are you aware?

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Speaker 5: Are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm in Albuquerque?

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Speaker 2: Oh that sounds nice.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I moved here about eight years ago.

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Speaker 2: Do you like it?

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Speaker 4: I do? I do. I mean, you know, it's funny.

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Speaker 4: I was just talking about that with someone. There's you know,

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Speaker 4: I miss La in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 6: But.

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Speaker 2: Do you what do you miss about it?

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Speaker 4: Well, we were going over all the things that I

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Speaker 4: don't miss about it, like the traffic honestly.

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Speaker 2: Mostly food, food options, you know.

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Speaker 4: Just and I miss my friends and things like that.

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Speaker 4: But the weather here is great, and it's just it's

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Speaker 4: just a different kind of lifestyle where it's just not

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Speaker 4: so focused around the business. And I was able to

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Speaker 4: buy a house, which I would not have been able

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Speaker 4: to do if I stayed in La. So I was

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Speaker 4: really wanting to do that, and you know, I feel

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Speaker 3: Thanks for making this work on your I know it's

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Speaker 3: spring break this week.

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Speaker 4: Great, it is, it's spring break, and I'm I'm still

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Speaker 4: going into work. I'm going to go into work after

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Speaker 4: this because I have a show. We're doing Guys and

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Speaker 4: Dolls and it is we have when we get back

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Speaker 4: from spring break. We only have two weeks, so I'm

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Speaker 4: getting nervous and you know, so yeah, we have a

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Speaker 4: bunch of stuff to do over spring break, mostly painting

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Speaker 4: sets and things like that.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe you are a teacher of theater in

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Speaker 4: No, Albuquerque, Albuquerque, Albuque.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to say, Santa fe in Albuquerque. This is wild.

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Speaker 2: I love it. I love this for you. What is

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Speaker 2: it like teaching I'm fascinated. What's it like teaching theater

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Speaker 2: to is it high school kids?

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Speaker 4: High school? I mean it's great giving them the opportunity

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Speaker 4: to have the experiences that I had when I was

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Speaker 4: you know, when I decided to leave the business, I

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Speaker 4: just kind of was like, what what do I really

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Speaker 4: had when I was in high school, you know, seemed

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Speaker 4: to be the thing. So I went back to school and.

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Speaker 2: It's like full circle. It is, but too soon in

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Speaker 2: your life to be too full circle.

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Speaker 4: So getting up there, getting up there.

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Speaker 2: We all yeah, wait, wait, let's go back to back

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Speaker 2: in the day. Can we just go back to the

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Speaker 2: nineties please, Cuz.

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Speaker 4: I not that I remember a lot, but I would

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Speaker 3: Go back to the nineties. But know what I know now? Oh,

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Speaker 3: you know, like it would be the perfect timing.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the nineties were ready for us to

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Speaker 4: I mean we not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like the nineties are never going away,

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Speaker 3: Like that's the small nostalgia era.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they do.

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Speaker 3: They try to do the Y two K the early

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Speaker 3: to the nineties.

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Speaker 4: Let's go back to the nineties. Yeah yeah, But aren't

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Speaker 4: like Pete and Brian doing a nineties podcast? Yeah, And

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Speaker 4: I know they have that nineties calm thing because that

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Speaker 4: a lot of you guys went to because my friend

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Speaker 4: went on. Yeah, my friend Linda is the voice of

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Speaker 4: Princess Jasmine, and so I told her, I said, oh,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we'll be there. Hartford Connecticut.

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Speaker 4: Oh there's another one this year. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Can you tell us about when you joined the show, Like,

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Speaker 2: what was the auditioning process for you? I love, we

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Speaker 2: love asking our co stars to take us back to

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Speaker 4: Was yeah, okay, So I had auditioned for the show

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Speaker 4: three previous times. One was the pilot. I read for Brenda,

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Speaker 4: and then I also read for Val and you tested

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Speaker 4: and Tiffany at the final things and it was like

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Speaker 4: her and I said, Oh, she's going to get it.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, you spoke it into exist.

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Speaker 4: I did, because she was on say by the Bell

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Speaker 4: but she had dated Britain, you know, and I.

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Speaker 2: Was still dating at the time.

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Speaker 4: Like see, so exactly like I'm not going to get it,

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Speaker 4: And then I also auditioned for Remember the piano Player

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Speaker 4: Girl the Ice skater. No, she dated David, but I yes,

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Speaker 2: She was vision impaired, right.

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Speaker 4: I don't remember that. Maybe maybe I auditioned for that

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Speaker 4: when they called me in for Tracy.

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Speaker 2: They made you read for Tracy.

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Speaker 4: After all that, I still come on, guys, of course

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Speaker 4: I still did. I remember, I remember the dress I

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Speaker 4: and for some reason, I felt really confident this time.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, so that so that you know, I had

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Speaker 3: Up not even third time to the charm, fourth time,

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Speaker 2: Wait, did you know right away that you'd be playing

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Speaker 2: Brandon Walsh's love interest?

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Speaker 4: Yes, and I was very excited about that. You know.

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Speaker 4: It's funny also when I listened to the Mark Dalton

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Speaker 4: just there were so many things that I related to

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Speaker 4: And I have no memory of meeting anyone for the

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Speaker 4: and I was so nervous. Yeah, yeah, so nervous, and

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Speaker 2: You were just probably so focused on like, that's my guy.

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Speaker 2: I've got to really make an impression on him and

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Probably, And yeah, I mean I had I had

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Speaker 4: weird thing. And like Mark said, you kind you know

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Speaker 4: I like watch scenes, I remember how nervous I was

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Speaker 3: Yes, we became really really good friends. And John and

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Speaker 3: I used to hang out all the time. Yes, offset

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Speaker 3: so that was a really fun time. I really enjoyed

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Speaker 3: our friendship and we too, me too, and bummed we

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Speaker 3: you though, I really do. Oh, that's some of ye

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Speaker 4: I look back on it completely like same same as

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Speaker 4: you just said. Like we had so much fun. We

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Speaker 4: going to Hawaii. I have I have pictures of that

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Speaker 2: It's so fun. Wait, you guys went to Hawaii. You

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Speaker 4: Jenny wasn't there.

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Speaker 4: Oh, my gosh, I didn't even remember that, that's true.

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Speaker 3: And then we flew home to lax and remember you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that I remember that.

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Speaker 2: You were Hawaii.

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Speaker 4: I went home, I think earlier than you.

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Speaker 2: Because you guys broke up.

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Speaker 2: You broke up in Hawaii?

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Speaker 4: No, we were already broken up. He ran into me

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Speaker 2: But this all happened in season seven.

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Speaker 4: It was the beginning of season eight. It was the

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Speaker 4: it was great. One thing I always remember, Tori, is

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Speaker 4: you being afraid to fly and you being so happy

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Speaker 2: Yes. Oh did she clutch your wrist and like draw blood?

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Speaker 4: Almost?

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, that's I'm getting a good picture.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you were there, you were with us for more

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Speaker 4: I did, like twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, did you know in the beginning that you.

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Speaker 3: Were going to do that night?

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Speaker 4: I don't There was a number that they gave me,

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Speaker 4: and I can't remember exactly what it was. So I did.

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Speaker 4: I did know that. I did know that my character

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Speaker 5: You met Michelle Lali in the hit Bravo show The Valley.

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Speaker 4: like fifteen years since I had been on stage and

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Speaker 4: I and I did that. I you know, so I

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Speaker 4: dabble a little bit, but I just I don't know,

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Speaker 4: I don't think so maybe maybe it's not like anyone's

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Speaker 4: knocking down my door asking me to pay anything.

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Speaker 2: Just keep it. If you're open to it, you never

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Speaker 2: know what will happen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 3: That's Can you come back to visit often or no?

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Speaker 4: Not often? When I moved to Albuquerque, I thought I

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Speaker 4: was so close to La, you know, so at the beginning,

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Speaker 4: I came back a lot. But I haven't been in

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Speaker 4: about I don't know, four years. I haven't been back

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Speaker 4: to LA. And my friends are like slowly moving out

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Speaker 4: of LA too. I mean it's just everyone. A lot

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Speaker 4: of a lot of my friends have left, and so

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Speaker 4: I just were our leaving and I thought about it,

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Speaker 4: like I have one friend now that I would care

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Speaker 4: about coming to visit and you know. So I don't know, yeah,

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Speaker 4: not not often.

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Speaker 2: Well, it seems like you are living your life on

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Speaker 2: your terms, and you seem very comfortable and very happy,

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Speaker 2: and that is so nice to see.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I am. I can I can say I haven't

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Speaker 4: been depressed. And since, you know, when I was here,

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Speaker 4: I started seeing a therapist and went on meds. And

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Speaker 4: that was another thing you guys talked about with Mark,

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Speaker 4: so I thought i'd bring it up. It was like

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Speaker 4: really holding me down for a long time, and then

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Speaker 4: my therapist really helped me, like start reframing my thoughts,

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Speaker 4: you know, instead of being so negative and why me?

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Speaker 4: And you know, and so since then, I have been

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Speaker 4: depression free and happy, and you know, I'm glad I

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Speaker 4: made the decision to come here. The teaching is starting

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Speaker 4: to you know, I'm starting to get burnt out on it,

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Speaker 4: because I did. I taught in LA for sixty year

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Speaker 4: Culver City High School, and I got burnt out on that.

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Speaker 2: Don't you get to retire soon.

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Speaker 4: Though, well, not until I'm sixty.

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Speaker 2: Sixty seven, ohjeven, I always forget the number. I thought,

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Speaker 2: you guys, I thought you could retire when you're fifty

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Speaker 2: nine and a half that doesn't exist anymore.

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Speaker 4: Because I'm fifty nine. I can't retire, but I.

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Speaker 2: Did, and you're not fifty nine.

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Speaker 4: I am fifty nine and I took I took my

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Speaker 4: SAG pension early. Oh, that's why I saved up money

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Speaker 4: to buy the house.

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Speaker 2: Amazing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because teachers.

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Speaker 7: Don't make that much.

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Speaker 2: No, God, I can't believe in fifty nine.

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Speaker 3: That is blowing my mind.

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Speaker 2: So you only have we don't look seven more years,

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Speaker 2: eight more years, eight more years? Can can you do it?

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Speaker 4: We'll see, we'll see. I do dream about, you know,

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Speaker 4: having some other kind of job, but who knows. I

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Speaker 4: could get another kind of job and not like you know,

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see. That's all you can do is say,

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Speaker 2: we'll see and see where the chips fall? Yeah, never

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Speaker 2: know what's going to happen. Is that a term? See

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Speaker 2: where the chips fall?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Isn't that?

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Speaker 7: Never rid of that one?

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Speaker 2: Am I making another thing up? I know the cookie

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Speaker 2: crumbles and the chips fall or I eat them all.

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Speaker 3: Like in Vegas like yeah, not like the chips Okay.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, could be wrong. Don't listen to me. Well,

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Speaker 2: I'm happy that your chips have fallen in a place

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Speaker 2: that make you so happy.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Keep it up because you are awesome and you're just beautiful.

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Speaker 4: Thank you. You guys are beautiful too.

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Speaker 2: You got that dog there, What could be wrong? Yeah,

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