WEBVTT - Wild Things with Princess Weekes 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:03.920 On the Bell Cast, the questions asked if movies have 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:07.960 women in them, are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands, 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:13.080 or do they have individualism the patriarchy zef invest start 0:00:13.200 --> 0:00:18.800 changing it with the Betel Cast. Oh okay, this is 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:24.640 the Bechdel Cast. Hello, Wow, it's me Caitlin Deronto. I 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:26.200 was just saying, how I don't have an intro for 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:33.880 this one because this movie is just so flummixing flummixing. Yeah, yeah, 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:38.159 this is a movie that we just stated off Mike. 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:43.000 It truly stumped us. It defeated the show. Every time 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:46.120 I thought I was approaching a perspective for a point, 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:49.720 it was blown up by the scene that happened afterwards 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:53.280 where I'm like, well, I guess um, that is technically 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:59.480 a lot of agency. That's be There's just when you 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:03.240 think you understand what's going on in this movie that 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:08.600 I didn't even know existed until are returning wonderful guest 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:12.600 Princess Weeks brought it to us. Yeah, well, I was like, 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:15.680 wild things could be about anything could be. It could 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:18.720 be a kids movie, could be the opposite of a 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:21.720 kids movie, which is what it is. Certainly that Yeah, 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:24.319 oh my gosh, wait, let's start the show. Sorry, this 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:27.480 is like in a good way. It felt good. It 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:32.880 felt like someone stepping on your back. Okay, So this 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:35.400 is the bucktele Cast. My name is Caitlin Darante, my 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:38.280 name is Jamie Loftus, and this is our podcast where 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:41.200 we take your favorite movies and look at it from 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:44.080 an intersectional feminist lens. And today, boy do we have 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:49.040 a challenge because today we are covering the movie Wild 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:55.120 Things from the year Uh is it night? A neo 0:01:55.280 --> 0:02:00.840 noir thriller film featuring um Are you just reading from Wikipedia? 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:07.120 I thank you so much. I use exactly three words 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:11.520 from Wikipedia there. Uh, but it's a it's a it's 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:14.960 a sexy Florida movie where everything that can happen does? 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:18.760 Can we just get into it? Because I like, I 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:22.519 we gotta get our guested here, Like it's kind of urgent. Yeah. 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:24.880 If if you want to know what the Bechtel test is, 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:29.720 listen to the beginning of another episode. Honestly, we don't 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:34.280 have time. We don't have time today. There's so much happening. Yes, 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:38.000 let's just dive right in. Uh by introducing our guest 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:41.560 first and foremost, she's a YouTuber and pop culture writer. 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:45.079 You remember her from our episode on Space Jam It's 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:49.200 Princess Week solo. I'm so copy back. So I got 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:54.600 to infect you with this like glorious dumpster fire movie. 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:58.520 Things will never be the same. It's like Nev Campbell 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:03.160 has never been hotter. But also it's like it's giving 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:05.920 so much gay confusion right now, so I have to 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:09.840 we have to discuss. We simply must. And that there 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:13.480 was there was another scene removed where Matt Dylan and 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:17.079 Kevin Bacon hook up and they could Yeah, I know 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:20.040 that was going to be one of the million things 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:22.120 that happens in the last twenty minutes of the movie. 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:25.240 I wanted it. Once I knew it was missing, I 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:29.560 wanted it back. Anyways, we'll get Princess. How did this 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:32.399 movie come into your life? I am genuinely so curious. 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:37.440 What's your history? So I was on a horror podcast 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:43.840 um with writer Adam Sass and queer intellectual Dana Pioli, 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:49.440 and they mentioned the kiss between Nev Campbell and Denise 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:52.520 Richard's in this movie being an Awakening, And I was 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:56.560 just scrolling down the pandemic you know tubes, and I 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:58.880 saw the movie. I'm like, oh, hey, here's that movie 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:01.680 about that thing, and then I just started watching it 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:03.920 for shifts and then every time I thought I understood 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:07.640 what was happening, I was like what. And it's like 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:11.040 so many twists, so many turns, and yet the movie 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:14.600 is under two hours. Honestly, Yeah, that's what makes is 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:19.000 so amazing. Like you're like, thirty minutes in this happens 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:23.200 like you're just like it's it's a masterpiece of a mess. 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:27.200 I still don't know how to define any of it. 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:30.200 But when you were like, what movie do you want 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:31.560 to watch? And I was like, we have to talk 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:34.960 about this. I have to bring the ultimate feminist challenge 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:42.320 to the Oh I'm ready. I'm very ready that Like 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:46.599 I Caitlin, do you have history with this movie? I'm 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:49.920 truly I like this is with with this kind of cast. 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:54.120 I'm surprised that it I've never heard of it before. Yeah. 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:57.800 My history is that I've known of the movie for 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:00.320 a very long time. It's been on my ad are 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:04.240 probably since it came out, because I was twelve when 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:07.120 it came out, too young to like have seen it 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:11.200 in theaters, but like I think my friends watched did 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:15.560 it sleepovers? Like It's been on my radar since since 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:26.000 its inception or conception whatever. Sorry if our listeners not 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:29.040 familiar with the movie Inception. That was the famous fart 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:33.359 noise from Inception. It is almost as iconic as the 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:36.560 women in this movie, but yet not. It's true con 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:40.080 Zummer could not top what Nev Campbell and Thanks Truths 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:43.359 are doing here. So true. So I've known about it 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:45.359 for a long time. It's been on my list of 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:48.160 things to watch for a long time. But again, as 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.279 I mentioned recently, because we've been covering a lot of 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:54.680 erotic thrillers lately, it's just a genre that I never 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:57.680 seek out. So knowing what it was, I was like, 0:05:57.880 --> 0:05:59.440 I'm not in the mood for this, so I just 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:02.000 kept putting off and putting it off. It gets referenced 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:06.200 in an episode of Pen fifteen. There's it's referenced constantly. 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:09.200 There's like so many like pop culture references to this movie, 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:12.400 particularly the pool scene, the kiss that you were talking 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:15.440 about being an awakening for a lot of people. Um, 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:18.080 and I've seen that scene before, but I had never 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:22.679 watched it all the way through until about a year ago. 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:26.440 I have a couple of friends of mine and I 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:30.000 made like to do lists were like ten things we 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:32.800 want to accomplish in the next year, and I made 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:39.680 my very just you wait, uh, it's you thought you 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:41.440 knew what my history of this movie is going to be. 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:44.320 Let's full of twists and turns, just like the movie 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:50.440 wild So my list I wanted to fill it with 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:54.080 things that were extremely achievable so as not to um, 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:58.440 you know, like disappoint myself or have unrealistic expectations. So 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:04.360 one of the things on the list was watch Wild Things. Yes, 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:09.760 I finally did. It accomplished my goal. Um So, I 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:11.560 saw it for the first time about a year ago, 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:17.640 was just completely blown away by how wild the movie is. 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:22.240 I mean wild Things more like wild movie. Amazing joke, Caitlin, 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:25.640 thank you so much. An extremely wild movie should have 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:27.680 been the name of the sequel, of which there are 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:32.440 three or four there are There's It's a franchise, There's 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:35.440 a wild Thing franchise. Of course none of them start 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:39.680 anyone nearly as iconic. But it's just like, wow, it 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:43.680 got a sequel, It got well sequel. I didn't look 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:48.800 into the sequels, but I'm okay, I start to figure 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:51.720 but who with this movie? I mean I guess if 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:55.920 your franchise is just based on twist after twist after 0:07:55.920 --> 0:08:00.720 twist every like two minutes, that's an excite hitting franchise 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:04.720 to build on and it doesn't have to make sense. No, Okay, 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:08.440 So here's a pitch I have for maybe like a reboot. 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:13.680 So the Susie character, the Neough Campbell character, she's at home, 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:16.360 she's misbehaving, she gets sent to bed without dinner, and 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:18.880 then escapes into a fantasy world where she plots to 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:22.360 murder her high school guidance counselor and his secret detective friend. 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:25.000 And she also kisses her hot classmate and then everyone 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:28.440 gets murdered except for Susie. It's called Where the Wild 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:36.520 Things Are Wish we got there? I like it, genius. 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:39.040 This is why you should take her screenwriting class, Ladies 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:44.280 and gentlemen. Um, there's the plug book. Well, um, So anyway, 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:46.480 that is my history with the movie. And then I've 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:48.680 watched it twice to pret for this episode. I still 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:52.040 feel like I don't know anything that happened in the movie, 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:57.880 because I've never been more excited for a recap. I know, Jamie, 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:02.000 what about you? What's your relationship? If any? Absolutely nothing 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:06.000 I just let this movie wash over me. I had 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:08.040 to watch it twice because the first time I felt 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:11.520 like I went into a full body shock and I 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:15.520 couldn't process what was going on. Just it's so like 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:20.959 it is peak cast. Do we ever find out why 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:24.760 Bill Murray's wearing a neck brace? Do we ever? Like 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:28.440 I was, I did not expect Daphne Rubin Vega, who 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:32.040 is in the original Broadway cast of Rent, to be 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:36.600 in this movie. Just a lot of nineties treats for 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:39.400 Jamie and this movie. I don't know what was going 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:41.920 on the first time. The second time, I feel like 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:45.480 I have five hundred pages of notes, all of which 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:50.439 are questions. I yeah, that's my history. I was just 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:53.680 uh huh, and I can't wait to talk about it. 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:57.079 All right, Well, shall we get into it with the recap? Yeah? 0:09:57.120 --> 0:10:00.920 Good luck, I know. I was like, I do love 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:04.880 how it begins with sex and then crime. I was 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:08.400 trying to think of another phrase. I my comedy brain 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:09.959 was not working, but I was like, there's got to 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:12.920 be a bunch of like fun phrases to do that 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:17.240 exact setup for like fun word followed by terrifying words 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:22.240 like food poisoning. There you go there you go. I 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:25.559 was literally staring at my computer for two minutes. I'm like, well, 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:29.319 I guess that's the only way to do that. It's 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:36.400 like it's like bread intolerance, you know. It's like, see 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:40.040 you guys both have one. It's going to hit me 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:44.160 like an hour from now, and it's gonna suck. Please 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:47.199 let us know as soon as you got one. Okay, Okay, 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:51.480 I'm going to start by giving content trigger warning because 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:55.920 this movie deals with rape, sexual assault, violence toward and 0:10:56.000 --> 0:11:01.679 murder of women, false rape accusations, sexual relationships between adults 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:05.240 and high school students. I feel like the list goes 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:13.160 on extraction with pliers. Don't it's triggering to you? Yeah? Right. 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:15.520 I love how this movie is still explaining to you 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:18.560 what the what happened during the credits. It's great, such 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:21.320 a weird choice. Um. But all this to say, the 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:24.920 recap and our discussion will heavily involve all of these 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:30.920 potentially triggering things, just so everyone is aware at the top. Okay, 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:35.160 So we are in Blue Bay, Florida, which seems to 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:40.640 be a pretty wealthy community not too far from the Everglades. Um, 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:44.079 we see the glades, we see alligators. You think alligators 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:46.640 are going to pay off in some way. They never do. 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:52.880 We cut to a high school campus where the guidance 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:57.800 counselor Mr. Lombardo say, I'm Lombardo played by Matt Dylan. 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:02.480 Good character name, good movie name, Sam, that's a great name. 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:05.240 My note for him is that he looks like Luke Perry, 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:11.560 and that made me sad. What does a bit? But also, 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:15.080 and I don't know if Matt Dylan is attractive. I 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:17.680 don't find him to be attractive to me. He looks 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:20.040 too much like my brother. But also in addition to that, 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:22.360 I don't think he's attractive. Her brother looks like Matt 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:26.200 Dylon came a little bit. Jamie's like, all right, Harry Goes. 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:33.240 But the whole movie is like so many people want 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:35.400 to have sex with Matt Dylan, and I just I'm 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:38.920 just like, what do why whole families? When I have 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:44.320 sex with Magelon? It's wild? This might be a silly question, Um, 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:48.320 what is Matt Dylan most famous for? Well, because every 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:49.800 time I see him, I'm like, I know he's famous, 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:52.000 but I don't know for what reason. Oh? Yes, well, 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:55.920 he was a teen idol and he was in several 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:57.840 things so he started off as like a young actor 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:04.480 who grew in to more popularity. He's actually been nominated 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:09.120 for an Oscar and a Grammy. What a Grammy. Yeah, 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:12.720 he basically has just had a very prolific career. Like 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:15.720 he was in There Something about Mary, he was in 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:18.280 On the Road. He did an audiobook for that, which 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:21.400 I think he got numinated for Best Spoken Word Album. 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:25.240 He was in Crash, a terrible movie, but yeah, is 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:32.480 that still a movie? Still? An Oscar winning movie, Dark Times, 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:36.120 and then he was in You. I'm like, looking at 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:39.520 his filmography, I'm like, oh right, you mean dupree? I 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:42.520 hate that that jumped out at me. Is like that movie. 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:46.800 I think. Most famously, he was in The Outsiders, like 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:52.240 the eight three version. Okay, okay, he's an Outsider's boy, 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:54.559 thank you, thank you, And that's pretty much. It's it's 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:57.560 like him st Bos, Tom Cruise, you know, every heart 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:00.120 Throne of the eighties. It's like, here you go have 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:05.640 a movie. It's crazy Macchio. Wow, I've never seen The 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:10.320 Outsiders either. That's uh, that's my confession. It's by our 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:15.840 boy f C C. Frances O f f CC Francis 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:21.000 Ford Coppola. I wonder if that would be worth covering 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:26.480 on the show anyway. Sam Lombardo is the guidance counselor. 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:30.760 He's holding an assembly about sex crimes for the senior class, 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:36.400 one of whom is Kelly Van Ryan played by Denise Richards. 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:41.280 Sam invites Detective Duquette played by Kevin Bacon, and at 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:43.520 a certain point I do start to call him Detective 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:47.360 Bacon in my notes. So just so as you're aware 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:51.600 of that that weapon, um. So, Detective Bacon and Detective 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:56.480 Perez played by Daphne ruben Vega are invited to stage 0:14:56.600 --> 0:15:01.640 to speak about sex crimes. This upsets another student, Susie 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:05.880 played by Nev Campbell. She seems to hate Detective Bacon, 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:09.960 and we will soon learn that Susie and Kelly hate 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:14.960 each other. It also starts with like him offering students, 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:20.680 rides home in his jeep like he's a slimeball from 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:23.560 from the jump. Yes, so what happens? I know it's 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:29.120 but no. Yeah, So after school, Kelly comes up to Mr. 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:34.520 Lombardo while he's teaching boat class. Question mark his whole thing. 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:39.320 He loves boats. He's not like other guidance counselors. No, 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:45.240 he's a cool guys counselor in Miami who Fox inappropriate 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:49.720 the goddess counsel who Fox and loves boats. So Kelly 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:53.320 seems to be especially like familiar and flirty with Mr 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:56.360 Lombardo and she's like, let me come over and wash 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:59.320 your jeep this weekend and he's like, I don't know 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:01.760 about that, and she's like, give me a ride home 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:05.120 and he's like uh, So he does give her a 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:08.040 ride home. We see the huge house that she lives in, 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:12.040 We meet her mom, Sandro van Ryan. Oh. We meet 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:17.000 her in the most spectacular way possible when she's having 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:19.840 sex with the pool guy, and that happens in US 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:22.800 a later scene. But sorry, we do, I guess we 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:29.240 do technically. Sorry, That's how That's how I felt her debut. Truly, 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:33.520 what an incredible scene picking up your landline phone while 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:39.200 having sex with pool boy, just wild stuff. She answers 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:41.680 the phone because she's in the middle of having sex, 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:48.800 so she goes hello acting acting. She's Strasbourg trained, look 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:51.960 out for her so she's not having sex in this scene. 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:57.400 But she comes out. She's like, hey, Sam Lombardo, kiss 0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:00.360 kiss and he's like, oh my, And then I'm why 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:02.000 do so many people want to have sex with Matt 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:06.000 Dylan confusing? So so then Kelly and her friend wash 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:10.119 Mr Lombardo's jeep, but it's all a ploy for Kelly 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:13.280 to go in and seduce Mr Lombardo and then it 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:15.320 kind of cuts away. We don't really know what happens, 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:18.439 although it seems like he's not interested. And then Kelly 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:23.879 tells her mom the Mr Lombardo raped her. So Kelly 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:26.760 and her mom, Sandra, go to the police and report 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:30.879 the rape to Detective Bacon and Detective Perez. This is 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:39.320 twist number one that I absolutely did not see coming. Yeah, yeah, 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:43.520 So Kelly gives a statement about the rape. She tells 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:47.800 them a particular thing that Mr Lombardo said about I 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:49.920 don't even want to repeat it in the recap because 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:54.520 it's really gross, But she says a particular line um, 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:58.440 which also is an indicator that there is no physical 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:03.800 evidence um. Detective Perez, because there's no physical evidence, thinks 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:07.240 that Kelly is making this story up. Very not feminist 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:11.960 of her. It's very un true, right, It's like, why, 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:16.399 of of course the only comp that's a woman is 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:20.399 given that perspective. And also I feel like that was 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:22.560 one of the in in one of the least realistic 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:28.080 movies ever produced. UM Cops immediately not believing someone felt 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:31.240 authentic kind of The only thing that tracks about the 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:34.040 entire movie is the way that cops behave. Yeah, the 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:37.080 film is very a cab like. It's very like at 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:39.439 the end of it, you're like, oh, we don't trust anybody. 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:44.399 All authority is bad. Probably the working class, everyone except 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:48.320 Nev Campbell deserves to die exactly. Only the working classes 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:52.280 should survive, is what Well thinks. Is yeah, true, true, 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:55.040 but you know, the kind of the other people who 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:58.720 have heard Kelly's statement aren't sure because Sam has a 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:03.480 reputation of being easy. So Sam knows that this accusation 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:06.320 is going to be very difficult to recover him. His 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:09.399 reputation will be tarnished, and he's worried he won't be 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:11.680 able to find a lawyer willing to go up against 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:14.280 the Van Ryan family since they're very rich and powerful 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:17.200 in the community. But he does find a lawyer, Ken 0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:20.639 Bowden or Bowden, his name is pronounced differently in every scene. 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:25.359 Um played by Bill Murray in the weirdest casting choice 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:29.199 I've ever seen, baffling, Why is Bill Murray in the 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:31.600 movie Wild Things, and why is he wearing a neck 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:34.200 brace and why won't he tell us? I think it's 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:38.040 implied that he's wearing it to collect on insurance money 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:40.760 that he doesn't actually deserve, because he says something like, oh, 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:42.640 I don't have to wear this all the time, but 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:46.240 there was an insurance guy here earlier. That's my guess. 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:52.879 It's the perfect crime, so can the lawyer is just like, 0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:54.840 don't worry, Sam, if you didn't do it, you have 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:58.040 nothing to worry about. But we see Sam Lombardo being 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:00.720 more and more rejected by the community. He's like banned 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:03.800 from the country club. He's run off the road by 0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:07.920 this guy, Frankie, the pool guy who Sandra van Ryan 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:11.240 was having sex with in my favorite part of the movie. 0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:13.840 And then when I was looking up um it was 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:16.080 another I was a writer from the Ringers favorite part 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:18.720 of the movie as well. I felt very validated Um 0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:21.600 in the scene where he's run off the road into 0:20:22.400 --> 0:20:26.800 the glades basically, and then it's it's very bizarre, like 0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:29.520 the pool that comes out. He's like, are you okay? 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:33.200 And then I'll be fine and that he gets punched 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:37.640 in the face, cut to a surprised raccoon, Like, I know, 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:42.800 that is one of the best scenes in any cinema. 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:45.600 That raccoon is a genius. And then they faced the 0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:50.440 black on the raccoon. It's so good, perfect editing choice. Yeah, 0:20:50.560 --> 0:20:52.520 I was like that had to have been some sort 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:55.000 of editing pickle they were in were like, we didn't 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:57.159 get a good punch or something like that. They're like, 0:20:57.200 --> 0:21:00.639 we do have the bureau of that raccoon and it 0:21:00.880 --> 0:21:04.480 looks it's it's great. Never underestimate a shot of a 0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:08.679 wild animal. You know, that's the wildest thing in the movie. 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:15.520 If you ask me, wild things were like wild raccoon. Alright, 0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:20.400 really really great. Okay, So meanwhile, the detectives have begun 0:21:20.520 --> 0:21:26.280 investigating this allegation. They go to talk to Susie That's 0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:30.719 Enough Campbell again, who tells them that Sam Lombardo also 0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:35.000 raped her about a year prior, and she says that 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:39.280 Sam Lombardo said the same line that Kelly had said 0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:44.000 Sam told her right, So that kind of corroborates their 0:21:44.040 --> 0:21:46.800 stories and it makes the detectives think that, oh, this 0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:50.879 this did happen. So they arrest Sam Lombardo and he 0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:54.240 gets thrown in jail. We then cut to the trial 0:21:54.800 --> 0:22:00.400 where Kelly and Susie give their testimonies. But during Susie's testimony, 0:22:00.440 --> 0:22:05.760 she reveals that Sam Lombardo did not rape her or Kelly. 0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:10.080 This was all for revenge. Susie's motivation is that Sam 0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:12.440 Lombardo and Susie used to be friends, but then he 0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:15.440 wasn't there for her when she was arrested and sent 0:22:15.480 --> 0:22:19.000 to Juvie, and so she's retaliating against him for that. 0:22:19.400 --> 0:22:22.240 Kelly is in love with him and got really jealous 0:22:22.240 --> 0:22:24.240 when she found out that he was having sex with 0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:27.840 her mom. So this whole thing is a revenge plot 0:22:27.880 --> 0:22:31.159 and it was all Kelly's idea. According to Susie, I 0:22:31.160 --> 0:22:33.680 had to rewind a couple of times to be like, now, 0:22:33.720 --> 0:22:39.240 hold on, what is the plan here? And I want 0:22:39.240 --> 0:22:42.520 to say, like the plot is so like Gillian Flynn. 0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:44.399 I can just see her as like a young woman 0:22:44.440 --> 0:22:47.439 watching this movie and like this is good ship. I 0:22:47.480 --> 0:22:49.639 can work with that. I can work with this. And 0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:52.600 I just like and like Nev Campbell is like acting 0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:54.679 so well how to stay like her eyes are all 0:22:54.760 --> 0:22:57.160 red and water and I'm like, girl, you were giving 0:22:57.160 --> 0:23:00.200 a very a plus performance in this be movie and 0:23:00.359 --> 0:23:03.800 it just elevates everything because you just believe her, and 0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:07.199 like Denise Richards is just sitting there, just seething with 0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:10.480 her like beautiful face, just like you bitch, and it's like, 0:23:10.520 --> 0:23:14.639 it's just like, uh, it's so. It's so the fact 0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:18.840 that nev Campbell could get those lines out and emote 0:23:18.880 --> 0:23:22.800 at the same time was I was just like, wow, egot, 0:23:23.119 --> 0:23:26.280 she she deserves it. She deserves it all. Because I 0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:29.840 could not even take that information into my head as 0:23:29.880 --> 0:23:32.840 it was being said to me. It was it was 0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:35.400 a symphony. It was wild. And then I also looked 0:23:35.440 --> 0:23:38.040 at I was like, how old were I looked it 0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:42.480 up to. Yeah, so it's like the age difference between 0:23:42.720 --> 0:23:45.520 Denise Richards and Magdalen in reality is like six or 0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:49.200 seven years. They're all it's it's all very like, which 0:23:49.200 --> 0:23:51.520 I don't. I mean, I'm glad they did not cast 0:23:51.600 --> 0:23:57.440 actual children in this movie because it's disturbing even like 0:23:57.560 --> 0:24:00.720 on its face. But I was just like something, it 0:24:00.840 --> 0:24:02.879 just it felt very c W two be in the 0:24:02.920 --> 0:24:07.360 way that I was like, what anyways, Yeah, it's yeah, 0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:10.240 because Denise is twenty seven and Nive is twenty five, 0:24:10.280 --> 0:24:12.200 and usually when you watch films like that. Everyone is 0:24:12.680 --> 0:24:16.040 staged and looks much older. They both look super young. 0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:19.560 They were like in their like early twenties, and I'm 0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:23.840 like seven. She looks great. I mean, she looks great now. Um, 0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:26.679 I love her. Is her name pronounced nive. I've been 0:24:26.680 --> 0:24:30.119 saying Nev Campbell. I have no idea which one it is. 0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:33.120 I don't know. I pronounced things badly, so I'm star doing. 0:24:33.600 --> 0:24:36.719 I'm just sad. What do you say, Caitlin? Nev? Then 0:24:36.760 --> 0:24:38.840 I'm gonna I'm gonna do that then, but I'm not 0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:43.520 sure if that's correct. I guess we've covered movies with her. 0:24:43.640 --> 0:24:45.199 Is there's sometimes when I don't know how to say 0:24:45.200 --> 0:24:51.760 an actor's name, most usually Wynn McGregor. I just like, 0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:55.719 I just yeah, I think I think you're right, Caitlin, 0:24:55.760 --> 0:24:59.640 because on on her pronunciation thing it's like and eat 0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:02.520 and V. So then I'm guessing it's nev ne Okay, 0:25:02.600 --> 0:25:10.600 Well Nev, I'm sure you're listening and got it right. Okay, 0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:14.520 So we get this big reveal, this big twist that 0:25:14.680 --> 0:25:17.080 these rape allegations are false and it was all a 0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:20.480 big revenge plot and it was all Kelly's idea. So 0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:24.480 now Sam Lombardo can file a lawsuit against the Van 0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:28.520 Ryan family for perjury. So they settle out of court 0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:31.120 and Sam gets a ton of money from it, something 0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:33.920 like eight point five million dollars. And this is very 0:25:34.000 --> 0:25:38.000