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Speaker 1: With the call the a f C Divisional playoff game

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Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars and the Kansas City Chiefs. It's Kevin

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Speaker 1: Harlan of Westwood one Sports and CBS Sports of course

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Speaker 1: on television on radio this week, covering the NFL for

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Speaker 1: thirty eight years on Monday Night Football and Westwood One

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Speaker 1: since two thousand nine. It's great to talk with you, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: And can you believe the Jaguars are here? A j P.

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Speaker 1: Great to be on with you, and uh yeah, yeah

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Speaker 1: these kind of Cinderella runs. Now, I don't know that

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Speaker 1: But clear listen, this team is beaten Dallas in overtime.

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Speaker 1: Um they have they have shown their metal and they

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Speaker 1: and winning. UM. No, they're right there in that conversation,

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Speaker 1: and it's terrific to see. Kevin. You've covered this league

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Speaker 1: for a long long time. So where does last week's

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Speaker 1: come back rank for you? Seven down? That's nearly unheard of,

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Speaker 1: it is, and UH, in those circumstances with UM, you know, UH,

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Speaker 1: it has to rank as one of the great comebacks. Now. Listen,

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Speaker 1: for whatever reason, UH, this really stood out. I don't

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Speaker 1: It just seems so improbable, Especially the way the Chargers

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Speaker 1: My thinking is after watching the game on tape and

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Speaker 1: with us of course. Doug Peterson this week was asked

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Speaker 1: You know, this team had back to back seasons, back

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Speaker 1: Kansas City Kevin, real pleasure. Thanks for the time and

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Speaker 1: Always fun to visit with you. Congratulations to that organization

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