WEBVTT - Generational Quarterbacks, WR Draft Prospects & More | Jaguars Happy Hour

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<v Speaker 1>It is Thursday, April fourth. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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<v Speaker 2>J P Chackrack and welcome in. It's Jaguars halfy Hour,

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<v Speaker 2>Florida's water it's worth saving and a busy hour ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>We're three weeks to the NFL Draft, so we'll hear

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<v Speaker 2>from Trevor Sikkhima, pro football focused NFL draft analysts, get

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<v Speaker 2>his thoughts on a couple of position groups that could

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<v Speaker 2>be in play for the Jaguars, cornerback and wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 2>See what he has to say about that. The offseason

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<v Speaker 2>program right around the corner as well. That's a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of weeks, so ten days away or so eleven days,

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<v Speaker 2>the fifteenth, whatever. Today is the fourth. He just said it.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe just said it. It's the fourth. It's Thursday. Either way,

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<v Speaker 2>that's coming up. We'll get to that. We'll keep it

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<v Speaker 2>real as we always do. And microsoft questions from social media.

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<v Speaker 2>That all is coming up on tenon XLAM Jaguars dot

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<v Speaker 2>Com and Jaguars YouTube. JP Shadwick with Jeff Logoman from

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<v Speaker 2>the Miller Electric Center the Hyundai Studios. Good afternoon, afternoon,

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<v Speaker 2>How the heck are you. I'm doing great. I mean, well,

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<v Speaker 2>first of all, the weather today is fantastic. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>been the last couple of days, went raining, right and

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<v Speaker 2>then go a little rain. But I mean it's a

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<v Speaker 2>little nice and little chill in the air, a little breezy.

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<v Speaker 2>This is kind of the last chill, right. Not a

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<v Speaker 2>good day for fishing, but it's a good day to

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<v Speaker 2>be outside. Well, we're in the day for football. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say today we're a football day. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it would be like, oh man, it's perfect. Let's go. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the last kind of chill. It's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>warm from here on. You think, no, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>We usually have a little bit of a one more. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the rest of the month of April, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>have some cool weather. Come on, JP, I'm not ready

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<v Speaker 2>for summer yet. I'm not. I'm just I would I'm

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<v Speaker 2>asking somebody who would know. I know you're excited about

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<v Speaker 2>getting the the OTA stuff started. Yeah, okay, let's let's

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<v Speaker 2>just calm it down. By the way the Chargers already

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<v Speaker 2>started because they have a new head coach, right, And

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<v Speaker 2>it was kind of funny listening to Jim Harbaugh speak,

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<v Speaker 2>did you see any Everything's great, they're the best, The

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<v Speaker 2>team's doing great. It's the best attitude I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 2>What else is he supposed to say? What else do

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<v Speaker 2>you expect him to say? These guys stinks. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>there's a reason I'm here. It's just funny. And the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing in Washington. You know, it's the hope that

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<v Speaker 2>you have with a new staff and and some new players.

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<v Speaker 2>You know how many times we've heard that around here

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<v Speaker 2>over the years. I know, I know what six head

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<v Speaker 2>coaches in the last twelve years. Look, look, I'm happy

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<v Speaker 2>with Doug Peterson, don't wrong. And I'm happy with the

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<v Speaker 2>direction of this organization. I mean it's it's good. Just

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<v Speaker 2>need to get better. But in years past there, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we'd have a change in the organization and we're like, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna get better, and then it wouldn't happen. It

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<v Speaker 2>can always be worse, but you know, you can always hope.

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<v Speaker 2>Spring is eternal. I guess, yeah, a good spot right now? Right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean back to back now, But I'm excited about

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<v Speaker 2>the Ota is getting started soon. Quite ready for him

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<v Speaker 2>to start yet, but you know, I'm excited about it

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<v Speaker 2>for a couple of different reasons. One to see some

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<v Speaker 2>action on the field, to see some of the new players.

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<v Speaker 2>But then I always like it once the draft class

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<v Speaker 2>comes in because then you get an idea of what

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<v Speaker 2>this team, what their personality may be, what their characteristics

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<v Speaker 2>may be. That's when you get a feel. And also

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<v Speaker 2>you can get a feel as to Okay, now we

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<v Speaker 2>still have a couple holes. What do we have to

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<v Speaker 2>address in what I call the late free agent period

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<v Speaker 2>Because there's plenty of opportunities for teams to get better

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<v Speaker 2>once once you get past the draft, and some teams

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<v Speaker 2>need to get better past the draft. The good teams

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes wait until after the draft. Take a look at

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<v Speaker 2>the Baltimore Ravens. They don't participate a ton in free

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<v Speaker 2>agency at the onset, but they like to do it

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<v Speaker 2>after the draft and into June because it helps with

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<v Speaker 2>their compensatory pick formula. So they're one of the good

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<v Speaker 2>teams at that. You also pick players right the first

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<v Speaker 2>time in the draft too, that helps. That's what makes

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<v Speaker 2>them good, right They pick good players, they develop them,

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<v Speaker 2>and they lose them, and then all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 2>they get a return on their investment, their initial investment

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<v Speaker 2>because they're losing good players are getting get paid out.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see their compensatory formula for the year coming

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<v Speaker 2>up in twenty twenty five? Lot of picks, it's really good,

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<v Speaker 2>and this team right here grabbed a couple of them.

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<v Speaker 2>That's helping their compensatory package.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>One position group that the Jags won't have to change

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<v Speaker 2>anytime soon, as middle linebacker fo Yer looking good with

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<v Speaker 2>the the extension four years, forty five million dollars reportedly

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two and a half million fully guaranteed at signing.

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<v Speaker 2>He led the league in tackles, of course, in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>one and twenty two, finished fourth last season in total

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<v Speaker 2>tackles in the NFL. And you like this movie, I

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<v Speaker 2>like it. I don't like it. I love it. Why

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<v Speaker 2>Because he's a really good football player. He's always available,

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<v Speaker 2>he's tough, he's dependable, he plays hard every snap. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you look at his film, you can watch plays

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<v Speaker 2>one through ten and then watch plays seventy through eighty,

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<v Speaker 2>and they look the same, speed wise, effort wise, everything

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<v Speaker 2>and trust me. There were some games where he had

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<v Speaker 2>eighty snaps. And I'm not joking when I say that

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<v Speaker 2>the first ten looked as good as are the last

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<v Speaker 2>ten looked as good as the first ten. That's how

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<v Speaker 2>good of a player he is now. I think there

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<v Speaker 2>was some hope with the draft pick last year out

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<v Speaker 2>of Florida Ventre Miller benre Miller, that may be a

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<v Speaker 2>Ventro Miller could supplant a Foyer Lucan in the future

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<v Speaker 2>and you would maybe have to expend a capital amount

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<v Speaker 2>to keep an inside linebacker shot. Nobody's taken Foyer's job.

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<v Speaker 2>Man's a stud, stud and he's a leader. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>best part about it. Love the way he steps in

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<v Speaker 2>front of the huddle, loves the way he holds guy's accountable.

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<v Speaker 2>We're showing on jaguars dot Com and JAG's YouTube some

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<v Speaker 2>of the highlights of Luca and I forgot about the

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<v Speaker 2>pick six against the Saints, first ever touchdown in the ashell.

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<v Speaker 2>It was great play, awesome. So yeah, he's all over

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<v Speaker 2>the place and he'll be here for a while to come, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>He's an every down linebacker and he fills every stat

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<v Speaker 2>every category that there is okay, interceptions, sacks, tackles, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>he fills that one for enough for two guys cause

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<v Speaker 2>fumbles recovered, fumbles, tackles for losses. He fills every category

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<v Speaker 2>that there is on the defensive sheet. And remember, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean he's spent a season putting other people in the

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<v Speaker 2>right place around it as well, and still do it.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're talking about two years ago when Devin Lloyd

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<v Speaker 2>was a rookie and he was having to get Devin

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<v Speaker 2>lined up a little bit. And then this past year,

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<v Speaker 2>Devon was doing a good job of handling that himself.

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<v Speaker 2>And I thought, you saw the improved play by Foyer.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I don't want to use this term, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to use it. He didn't have to babysit, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's it's the only term that I can think

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<v Speaker 2>of comes at the top of my mind, so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have to use it. But okay, and fortunately Devin

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<v Speaker 2>grew up. Devin figured it out you're two of the system,

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<v Speaker 2>and was handling it himself. And I expect that Devin

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<v Speaker 2>starts to maybe tutor others or mentor others in the future.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the trick is, with the system changing some does

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<v Speaker 2>everybody adjust the same way. You know, that's something to

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<v Speaker 2>worry about, right. I mean, Foyer is a student of

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<v Speaker 2>the game, works hard at it, studies his playbook. Highly

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<v Speaker 2>intelligent football player and not just a highly intelligent football player.

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<v Speaker 2>He's he has instincts, football instincts, football intelligence, which goes

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<v Speaker 2>above okay, looking at a sheet and being able to

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<v Speaker 2>fill out a multiple choice or a fill in the

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<v Speaker 2>blank test on a game plan. A guy, he's some

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<v Speaker 2>guys just know and anticipate. When you watch Foyer play,

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<v Speaker 2>he's always when you watch his reaction time to where

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<v Speaker 2>the to what the play is actually gonna be, he's

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<v Speaker 2>at least a half a step to a full step

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<v Speaker 2>ahead of most people because he studies the game and

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<v Speaker 2>he's got great instincts. Join us Tuesday, April sixteenth, from

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<v Speaker 2>JP Shadwick, Jeff Logoman. We'll hear from every second of

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<v Speaker 2>a pro football focus in less than ten minutes about

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<v Speaker 2>where there might be some value at number seventeen. Overall

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<v Speaker 2>three weeks to the draft logs, and I know, in

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<v Speaker 2>the weeks leading up to the draft you start really

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<v Speaker 2>grinding on this prospect tape. This is your time of

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<v Speaker 2>year to get into these key position groups, certainly the

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<v Speaker 2>ones that Jaguars could be after, but you really love

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<v Speaker 2>the quarterbacks too, right, Yeah, when You're saying that this

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<v Speaker 2>is the time of year that I'll be sitting there

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<v Speaker 2>watching the film of these college prospects, okay with my

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<v Speaker 2>with my Microsoft surface and you know, great sponsors. All

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, forty five minutes an hour into it,

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, it's hit me in my nose, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know it's at night. You know, you're tired,

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<v Speaker 2>You're trying to watch you know, four or five guys,

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<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden you're sitting there and you're

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<v Speaker 2>laying back on the couch and you're kind of holding it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, on your chest, and and all of a sudden, damn,

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<v Speaker 2>something hit you. Waking up and you're like, oh, whoa wait,

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<v Speaker 2>I fell asleep. But no, I enjoy watching I've been

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<v Speaker 2>watching the quarterbacks and the quarterbacks I think I have

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<v Speaker 2>a big impact on what will be available to the

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<v Speaker 2>Jaguars at seventeen. And that's one of the reasons why

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<v Speaker 2>I've been watching him. Because of the potential for five

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<v Speaker 2>quarterbacks to go before the Jaguars pick. It's pretty amazing, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that doesn't happen too often, even when there

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<v Speaker 2>are really good quarterback classes. Sometimes it spreads out enough

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<v Speaker 2>where there aren't that many in the first half of

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<v Speaker 2>a first round. But who are a few yet your

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<v Speaker 2>eyes on this week? I mean, obviously, Caleb Williams is

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<v Speaker 2>the guy, former Heisman winner out of southern California, so

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people are saying, a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>pundits think he's going to be the number one overall

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<v Speaker 2>pick to the Chicago Bears. So what stands out about

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<v Speaker 2>Caleb Williams in the film that you've seen. He is

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<v Speaker 2>so smooth. I mean when I say smooth, he's so athletic,

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<v Speaker 2>and he is a total Joe cool, never gets flush, start,

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<v Speaker 2>never panics, is super athletic to escape from something and

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<v Speaker 2>then create something. And it's fun to watch a talented arm,

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<v Speaker 2>live arm, accurate arm put all that together and then

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<v Speaker 2>you have a generational player, fantastic player. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 2>is probably I think one of the best quarterbacks since

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<v Speaker 2>Trevor Lawrence to come out. And he's got it all.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got it all. I love it. And what I

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<v Speaker 2>think impresses me the most is what he does when

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<v Speaker 2>the plays break down. So there's a lot of quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 2>and in the NFL, you've got to survive in a system. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but the exceptional ones. Take a look at Patrick Mahomes

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<v Speaker 2>in Kansas City. The exceptional ones and I hate to

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<v Speaker 2>use this term, but I'm gonna use it. Play above

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<v Speaker 2>the x's and o's, and it's when things become off

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<v Speaker 2>the written or off schedule plays and now the player

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<v Speaker 2>has to create something on his own. And that's where

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<v Speaker 2>Caleb Caleb Williams really really shot. It's because he's so

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<v Speaker 2>athletic and then the arm talent from any position is

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<v Speaker 2>there all the time. About the off the field stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>there's some critics of him and his personality away from

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<v Speaker 2>the game, and how does that trans what it's the

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<v Speaker 2>criticism tell me that some of it. You know, there

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<v Speaker 2>was a moment last year where he came off the

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<v Speaker 2>field was went to crying with his mom was there

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<v Speaker 2>in the front row. I remember Pete prisco on half

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<v Speaker 2>the hour of the week after it was all over him,

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<v Speaker 2>partly because Bisselli was here. But there's some of that, right,

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<v Speaker 2>What do you make of that? Can can? Is that

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<v Speaker 2>overblown because there's so much attention put on him because

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<v Speaker 2>many people expected him to be the first overall pick,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it bean last year or this year. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>so much attention on him as a player because of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it? Is it the microscope effect? Maybe? But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're always going to find a flall with

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<v Speaker 2>somebody if you look hard and long enough. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think for the most part, this is an exceptional football player,

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of people are maybe turned off because, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't want to go visit all the teams and

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't want to do stuff at the combine. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't blame him one bit. I mean, he's he's the

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<v Speaker 2>first overall pick, hands down. Does he need to go

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<v Speaker 2>through all those hoops to be able to make people

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<v Speaker 2>satisfied across the board? I'm okay with him not doing

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<v Speaker 2>any of that stuff. Yeah, I mean, turn on the film, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>look at the class guy that he's been so far.

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<v Speaker 2>Go watch the UCLA game from two seasons ago at

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<v Speaker 2>the Rose Bowl. It is unbelievable. I'm backing forth up

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<v Speaker 2>and down the field, him and Dorian Timeson Robinson back

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<v Speaker 2>and forth all game long. It was Okay, since we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about games, Okay, I'm going to go to another

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback because he's on my list and he's not really

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say he's in the top three, but

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<v Speaker 2>I have him on this list to talk about today

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<v Speaker 2>because this is a guy that could sneak in somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>into the first round and maybe even before the Jaguars pick.

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<v Speaker 2>Who Michael Pennix. And the reason I bring him up

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<v Speaker 2>now is because you talk about Caleb Williams against you

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<v Speaker 2>CLA two years ago. Did you watch Michael Pennix against Texas?

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<v Speaker 2>Was fantastic? Holy cow, the deep balls that he threw.

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<v Speaker 2>And what I love about him is that, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>super live arm. Him and Drake May I think have

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<v Speaker 2>exceptional arms. And I think that's what makes those two

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<v Speaker 2>guys the second and third best quarterbacks I think in

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<v Speaker 2>this draft. But Pennix has the size, he's athletic, he

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<v Speaker 2>has exceptional deep exceptional exceptional live arm with deep ball ability.

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<v Speaker 2>I like him, and I know that there are some

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<v Speaker 2>concerns about him injury wise, and that's natural. But this

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<v Speaker 2>is a guy that if all of a sudden, he

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<v Speaker 2>ends up slipping up in front of the jack Wars

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<v Speaker 2>and some of the other quarterbacks go as expected Jayden Daniels,

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<v Speaker 2>JJ McCarthy, if all of a sudden, all those guys

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<v Speaker 2>go up ahead of the Jaguars as well, the Jaguars

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<v Speaker 2>are going to have a lot to pick from that

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<v Speaker 2>they really like. And it's not going to be an

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<v Speaker 2>easy decision because a lot of players are going to

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<v Speaker 2>get pushed back because the quarterbacks that are in the

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<v Speaker 2>top of the draft. Let's get one more quarterback in

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<v Speaker 2>you've been watching, and it's from Chapel Hill and from

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<v Speaker 2>North Carolina. Drake May. Yeah big. I mean, he's got

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<v Speaker 2>all the measurables right, six ' four, two hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>thirty pounds, got an arm that is lights out, and

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<v Speaker 2>what I like about him, does a really good ball

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<v Speaker 2>job of getting the ball out faster than like a

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<v Speaker 2>Caleb Williams. You know, as far as reading reacting Caleb.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of the reason why he takes a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>longer to get the ball out on average. Also is

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<v Speaker 2>because he extends the play and uses his athleticism. But

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<v Speaker 2>May does a good job of really staying within the

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<v Speaker 2>structure of the scheme and getting the ball out reading defenses.

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<v Speaker 2>Now there are times that he has a miss, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's not because of a flawed footwork or flawed arm

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<v Speaker 2>or any of that nature. If Caleb Williams is not

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<v Speaker 2>in this draft, Drake May is the hands down top

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<v Speaker 2>of the class, first overall pick, and it's not even

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<v Speaker 2>a debate because he's that talented of a quarterback. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to end on this question here. You mentioned Caleb

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<v Speaker 2>Williams is a generational prospect or could be, I believe,

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<v Speaker 2>so how many times how many generational players can you

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<v Speaker 2>actually have in one generation? I feel like it's an

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<v Speaker 2>overused terms. Trevor was the one, right, that's only like

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<v Speaker 2>four years ago. If we go back and say, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>would generational quarterbacks okay and use of that label. I

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<v Speaker 2>used it on Caleb Williams, I've used it on Trevor

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<v Speaker 2>Lawrence and I've used it and then it's just me personally.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if other people have you that are

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<v Speaker 2>not Patrick Mahomes just because of and I said this

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<v Speaker 2>a few years ago, I said, he's the greatest quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>I ever watched film on. I remember that, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think that those three guys in recent time, Now, how

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<v Speaker 2>can you have three in one generation? Understand your you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, understand your totally. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>an overused term. I think there's a way to say it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, I don't know what that term would be. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's the point is that you think he is

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<v Speaker 2>up here with those caliber plays. I believe he is,

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<v Speaker 2>and but yeah, I mean, I think it's a better

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad that you asked a question because it kind

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<v Speaker 2>of clarifies what my definition of a generational talent would be.

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<v Speaker 2>And so by giving people those ideas, Peyton manning generational

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<v Speaker 2>talent when he was coming out. I wasn't a big

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<v Speaker 2>fan of Ryan Leaf, you know. I mean, let's go

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<v Speaker 2>back to the early eighties, right, Marino and Elway were

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<v Speaker 2>in the same draft. Well, many people didn't view Dan

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<v Speaker 2>Reno as a generational talent, and he slid because they

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<v Speaker 2>thought the marijuana stuff or whatever. He slid down the draft.

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<v Speaker 2>John Elway, there was a little bit of question him

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<v Speaker 2>about his commitment to football with baseball sitting out there,

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<v Speaker 2>so a lot of people didn't view him as that,

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<v Speaker 2>but he was the pick and he was yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>turned out turned out to be a Federational Hall of

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<v Speaker 2>Fame player, Hall of Fame player Jim Kelly, many people

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<v Speaker 2>viewed as a one of those types, one of those

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<v Speaker 2>great players. But it's a good that you asked that

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<v Speaker 2>question and you bring that up, because I think it

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<v Speaker 2>clarifies that it's not necessarily once per generation. It's probably

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<v Speaker 2>more it's another upper category. These are the top of

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<v Speaker 2>this tworeation exactly back in the moment, plenty more ahead semantics,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess at this point. Yeah, but that's a big

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<v Speaker 2>that makes a big, big difference. I think if you

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<v Speaker 2>far as definitions go back, we've got to invent a

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<v Speaker 2>new name or a new term or new category. JP.

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<v Speaker 2>dip V? You said, d V I very very important

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<v Speaker 2>for people. Yeah, I thought you were a little confused there.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, hmm, it's possibly coming up with a

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<v Speaker 2>new term the proceeding. We've got to figure out a

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<v Speaker 2>new term for generational. So I figured we get started, right,

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<v Speaker 2>what do we you know, how do we figure this

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<v Speaker 2>out the next what thirty eight seven? I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're going to work on it. Generational we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to work on it. Quarterback of a decade every I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you do that? What's the just the definition

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<v Speaker 2>of a generation twenty years? I don't know it twenty

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<v Speaker 2>or is it third twenty five? I don't know. That's

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<v Speaker 2>first of all, we've we got to find generational Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>well let's take a few minutes and we'll work behind

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<v Speaker 2>the scenes. When we hear from Trevor six, we'll let

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<v Speaker 2>Joe figure that out. Yeah, our crack research staff. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>three weeks to the draft, and it's of course a

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<v Speaker 2>busy time for everyone in the pre draft process, but

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<v Speaker 2>certainly those at Pro Football Focus and NFL Draft analyst

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<v Speaker 2>Trevor Sikhim earlier today caught up with him and discuss

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<v Speaker 2>the Jaguars at number seventeen and the possibilities of a

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<v Speaker 2>why receiver or a top tier cornerback in the first round.

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<v Speaker 3>Those are three receiving corps now that the Jaggers have

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<v Speaker 3>to go up against twice a year.

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<v Speaker 2>That is tough.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, as deep as talented, and like you said,

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<v Speaker 3>it puts a little bit more pressure on them potentially

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<v Speaker 3>going corner in the first round at number seventeen. Overall,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe they feel aggressive enough to maybe move up and

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<v Speaker 3>go get the top CBCB one in this draft, because

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<v Speaker 3>it feels like it's hard to believe that no corner

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<v Speaker 3>would go before number seventeen. But I again, any of these

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<v Speaker 3>guys would be on the board for them to play

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<v Speaker 3>opposite Tyson Campbell. I like Quinion Mitchell a lot from Toledo.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that he's probably gonna be the first cornerback

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<v Speaker 3>off the board. It's just hard to not look at

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<v Speaker 3>what he has done over the last two years and

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<v Speaker 3>feel like there was something that he left on the

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<v Speaker 3>table or that there was a box that was unchecked.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got good size, he's got incredible speed. He saw

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<v Speaker 3>him in off coverage rolls over the last two years

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<v Speaker 3>elite PFF grades in coverage, which is extremely impressive. Had

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<v Speaker 3>the most forced incompletions of any cornerback in college football

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<v Speaker 3>over the last two years, a handful of interceptions as well,

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<v Speaker 3>with good ball skills. The really the only question with

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<v Speaker 3>him was, hey, can you play him in press? Can

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<v Speaker 3>you play him in man? Because he was a big

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<v Speaker 3>off coverage defender at Toledowen. You know, I think that

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<v Speaker 3>they did a really good job of the senior bowl

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<v Speaker 3>of saying, Okay, we've seen you play off coverage a lot,

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<v Speaker 3>now come in and what do you like in press?

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<v Speaker 3>And they lined him in press.

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<v Speaker 2>And what did he do well?

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<v Speaker 3>He basically just shut down every receiver that he went

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<v Speaker 3>up again, so checks all those boxes. I think he'd

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<v Speaker 3>be phenomenal choice for Jacksonville if they have the opportunity

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<v Speaker 3>to take them. Your tear around Arnold from Alabama Kole

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<v Speaker 3>Ay mckinstrey, his teammate at Alabama as well, could be

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<v Speaker 3>really solid players, especially again in a situation where you

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<v Speaker 3>already have Campbell, who is an ascending young cornerback and

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<v Speaker 3>one of the best young corners in the game. I

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<v Speaker 3>think that getting that elite outside cornerback duo is paramount to,

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<v Speaker 3>like you said, being able to keep pace with a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of the teams in this division. And you don't

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<v Speaker 3>always want to make more your moves based on someone else.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do feel as though Jacksonville kind of made

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of their moves in and kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>what they wanted to do in free agency and so

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<v Speaker 3>the draft. Could you could argue that, Okay, it could

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<v Speaker 3>be a little bit more reactionary, and that's not necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>a bad thing, especially if you get a really good

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<v Speaker 3>football player on your team. So I think that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>when you look at the rest of that division, having

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<v Speaker 3>to play all those teams and those offenses at least

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<v Speaker 3>twice a year piece, that definitely ups the pressure to

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<v Speaker 3>make your secondary as good as it can be.

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<v Speaker 2>Trevor second and Pro Football Focus at Tampa Bay tray

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<v Speaker 2>on X. Well, that's one philosophy is to defend it

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit better. Well, the other one is to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, fight fire with fire and add some more

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<v Speaker 2>offensive weaponry for Trevor Lawrence at wide receiver and the

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<v Speaker 2>Jaguars historically in the early rounds have not drafted a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of wide receivers. Only nine all time in the

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<v Speaker 2>first three rounds have been selected by the Jaguars. Only

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<v Speaker 2>one of those, Trevor has made it to a second contract,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was Marquise Lee. The last first round draft

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<v Speaker 2>pick for the Jags at wide receiver was Justin Blackman

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twelve. So they haven't historically fared well in

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<v Speaker 2>this department. But if they were to go the wide

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<v Speaker 2>receiver route, is there something there middle of the first round?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think there absolutely is. And the good thing

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<v Speaker 3>about it is. You know, Jacksonville's sitting here, They've got

0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:17.159
<v Speaker 3>a second round pick, they got a third round compick

0:24:17.240 --> 0:24:19.000
<v Speaker 3>right now. I think that you could even maybe get

0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:21.760
<v Speaker 3>an impact receiver in the second and third round as well.

0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:24.639
<v Speaker 3>But I don't, you know, the big question is, Hey,

0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:27.440
<v Speaker 3>this wide receiver class is so good, it's so deep,

0:24:27.480 --> 0:24:30.960
<v Speaker 3>it's so talented. Does that deter you from taking one

0:24:30.960 --> 0:24:32.280
<v Speaker 3>in the first round because you think you get win

0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:35.359
<v Speaker 3>a little bit later. I think it's an interesting conversation

0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:37.399
<v Speaker 3>for teams to have, but I would tell you that

0:24:38.000 --> 0:24:41.119
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't really let the thought of that get in

0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:42.879
<v Speaker 3>the way of me taking a guy who I think

0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:45.119
<v Speaker 3>could be a wide receiver one on my team. And

0:24:45.200 --> 0:24:47.760
<v Speaker 3>I think that when you look at an ad Mitchell

0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:50.760
<v Speaker 3>from Texas Brian Thomas Junior from LSU, those are two

0:24:50.800 --> 0:24:52.639
<v Speaker 3>of the wide receivers that I think could be in

0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:55.400
<v Speaker 3>that sweet spot off still available, but really high impact

0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:59.920
<v Speaker 3>players for them at number seventeen. If they don't move, it's.

0:25:00.400 --> 0:25:01.000
<v Speaker 4>It really is.

0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:04.119
<v Speaker 3>I think that both of those guys their games aren't

0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:06.840
<v Speaker 3>perfect yet, you know, it's not as well rounded as

0:25:07.280 --> 0:25:09.520
<v Speaker 3>it could be for either of them. But I mean,

0:25:09.560 --> 0:25:12.000
<v Speaker 3>you just look at the athletic baseline for both of

0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:15.080
<v Speaker 3>these guys. I mean, Ady Mitchell, relative athletics scorer, one

0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:16.760
<v Speaker 3>of the best wide receivers that we've seen over the

0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:19.520
<v Speaker 3>last you know, five six years. You know, you look

0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:22.240
<v Speaker 3>at Brian Thomas junior. Okay, primarily a vertical threat type

0:25:22.280 --> 0:25:25.840
<v Speaker 3>of guy. But while he is hopefully rounding out what

0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:28.000
<v Speaker 3>he could be as an all around receiver, what he

0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:31.320
<v Speaker 3>does now is that vertical guy is pretty dang unstoppable.

0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:33.000
<v Speaker 3>And we saw that in the SEC at LSU this

0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:35.159
<v Speaker 3>past year, almost two hundred and ten pounds runts of

0:25:35.200 --> 0:25:37.080
<v Speaker 3>four to three, three forty yard dash. And it was funny.

0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:39.680
<v Speaker 3>I was looking over some Jaden Daniels film the other day.

0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:42.240
<v Speaker 3>I was looking at how he was as a quarterback

0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:44.600
<v Speaker 3>when it came to throws on the run and scrambling.

0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:46.080
<v Speaker 3>So I was looking at a handful of those plays,

0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:48.639
<v Speaker 3>and there's just one throw where he just absolutely fits

0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:50.919
<v Speaker 3>it straight into the bucket, right in the bread basket

0:25:50.960 --> 0:25:53.400
<v Speaker 3>for Brian Thomas Junior. He's got about forty forty five

0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:55.080
<v Speaker 3>yards before he gets the end zone. He puts his

0:25:55.080 --> 0:25:58.520
<v Speaker 3>foot in the ground and he accelerates and you go, WHOA, Okay,

0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:00.480
<v Speaker 3>there it is, there's the four to three three we

0:26:00.520 --> 0:26:03.520
<v Speaker 3>see it. That's a difference making level speed, even at

0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:06.040
<v Speaker 3>the NFL level. So you can't help but think about,

0:26:06.080 --> 0:26:09.040
<v Speaker 3>all right, if your picture and that guy in Jags

0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:11.280
<v Speaker 3>colors and a Jags jersey, what it could be with

0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:13.960
<v Speaker 3>Trevor Lawrence looking deep for him and connecting with him

0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:16.879
<v Speaker 3>in a vertical threat for this offense. So those are

0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:19.040
<v Speaker 3>the two guys that consistently go to if they're gonna

0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:20.680
<v Speaker 3>stick in the middle of the first round. You're hoping

0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:23.080
<v Speaker 3>that one of Brian Thomas Junior or Aby Mitchell from

0:26:23.080 --> 0:26:25.639
<v Speaker 3>Texas is going to be there for you. And they also,

0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:28.520
<v Speaker 3>because of their athleticism, feel like Trent Bulky types. So

0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:30.640
<v Speaker 3>I feel like they're gonna both be on the Jags radar.

0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:36.040
<v Speaker 2>As well as Trevor Sikoma of Pro Football Focus at

0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:39.560
<v Speaker 2>Tampa Bay, Trey on x JP Shadow, Jeff Logoman. They

0:26:39.600 --> 0:26:42.840
<v Speaker 2>have full conversation coming soon on Jaguars dot Com Jaguars

0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:46.560
<v Speaker 2>social media. Yeah, I mean those are two position groups

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:48.880
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people who are picking to the Jaguars logs,

0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:51.760
<v Speaker 2>So you know, I'm still kind of on the corner

0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:54.760
<v Speaker 2>train myself. I mean, you can't have too many good cornerbacks,

0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:58.679
<v Speaker 2>especially with a division that's loading up on wide receiver talent. No,

0:26:58.920 --> 0:27:01.960
<v Speaker 2>and the good thing is is that the team kind

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:04.919
<v Speaker 2>of filled some holes at both of those positions and

0:27:05.000 --> 0:27:08.119
<v Speaker 2>free agency, and so that helps, I think going in

0:27:08.200 --> 0:27:11.240
<v Speaker 2>the draft. So you feel like that, hey, if you're

0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:14.720
<v Speaker 2>making that call, hey, we're comfortable with what we have.

0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Let's just take the best player that's on our board.

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:20.679
<v Speaker 2>If it's a wide receiver, great, if it's a defensive

0:27:20.680 --> 0:27:24.439
<v Speaker 2>tackle great, if it's an offensive tackle, great. I'm okay

0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:26.639
<v Speaker 2>with that. Just take the best player, the ones that

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:29.120
<v Speaker 2>are going to give you the best chance to succeed,

0:27:29.560 --> 0:27:32.600
<v Speaker 2>because you know, at the end of the day, when

0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:35.439
<v Speaker 2>you have the best players, that's all that matters, because

0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:38.800
<v Speaker 2>you can end up getting compensatory picks for other players

0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:42.880
<v Speaker 2>that move on or you know, look, this team has

0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:46.720
<v Speaker 2>tried to fill holes in the past by drafting for need,

0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 2>and it doesn't always work out and you end up

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:51.800
<v Speaker 2>having a player who never even gets to a second

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:56.040
<v Speaker 2>contract sometimes. So that's why you always draft the best players. Yeah,

0:27:56.240 --> 0:27:59.639
<v Speaker 2>and I mentioned that wide receiver stat in the question

0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:02.680
<v Speaker 2>to I looked that up earlier today because I knew

0:28:02.800 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 2>obviously it wasn't great, and so I just tried to

0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:08.280
<v Speaker 2>figure out how not great it was. Repeat that again,

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:10.000
<v Speaker 2>because I mean some people might not have heard that,

0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:12.119
<v Speaker 2>and you're seeing it on your screen on Jaguars dot com.

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:15.320
<v Speaker 2>The Jaguars in rounds one, two, or three all time

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:19.880
<v Speaker 2>have selected nine wide receivers in that stretch. Only one

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:21.880
<v Speaker 2>of them has signed a second deal with the team,

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:25.119
<v Speaker 2>and that was Marquise Lee. The others, for one reason

0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:27.760
<v Speaker 2>or another, never made it to a second deal or

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:30.200
<v Speaker 2>never made it through their first deal with the team,

0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:33.480
<v Speaker 2>Justin Blackman being one of those twenty twelve, Well, and

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:36.000
<v Speaker 2>leave that chart up there. I mean, let's let's talk

0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:39.440
<v Speaker 2>about them. RJ. Soward, some players you don't get to

0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 2>a second contract because look, you're you're in some kind

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:45.719
<v Speaker 2>of financial straits to where you can't afford to do that,

0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:51.080
<v Speaker 2>right right, So two thousand Soward, Matt Williams, Okay, No, No, RJ. Soward,

0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Reggie Williams, Matt Jones, Hey bus across the board, Bus

0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:58.440
<v Speaker 2>three of them. Bus all first round picks, by the way.

0:28:58.600 --> 0:29:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh seven, Mike Simms Walker the third round pick twenty twelve,

0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Justin Blackman, first round pick plus he had issues. He

0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:07.480
<v Speaker 2>was an incredible player when he was out there, but

0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:10.880
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't out there long. Uh. Twenty fourteen, two different

0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:14.040
<v Speaker 2>second round picks, Mark Eastlee and Alan Robinson, and both

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 2>of those guys good football players that could have warned

0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:19.960
<v Speaker 2>a second contract. So Marquise did he got They made

0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:22.640
<v Speaker 2>a choice there, they picked one of the other. They

0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:25.840
<v Speaker 2>chose Mark Eastley and then Alan Robinson moved on and

0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:28.320
<v Speaker 2>Lee got hurt after that and pretty much was done

0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:33.000
<v Speaker 2>by the way, and it was Davante Turpin whoever it

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:35.680
<v Speaker 2>was Atlanta Falcons, total cheap show. It was like a

0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:39.360
<v Speaker 2>preseason season game, and he took him out at the knee. Terrible,

0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:42.560
<v Speaker 2>I remember that terrible. DJ Shark twenty eighteen second wasn't

0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 2>by the way, it was somebody else. You're just accusing people.

0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:50.680
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember it. He was CAZy. It was Caz

0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:54.600
<v Speaker 2>thank you. Yeah, Chark was a good player but didn't

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:59.000
<v Speaker 2>get a second deal here. Well, good player, but really

0:29:59.080 --> 0:30:03.240
<v Speaker 2>it's not like he left here and put up big numbers.

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:05.200
<v Speaker 2>Kind of been a journeyman the rest of the time.

0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 2>So I mean in Leviscus chanal H who just picked

0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:11.560
<v Speaker 2>him up to do to add him to maybe do

0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:14.120
<v Speaker 2>some kick returning stuff, because he when when they traded

0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 2>him to Carolina, he has really had very few catches total.

0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:22.200
<v Speaker 2>Seahawks just signed seat and they were kind of pumping

0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 2>them up, like, oh yeah, with the new kickoff return rules.

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:28.320
<v Speaker 2>He's a good acquisition. And I'm going I mean, there's

0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 2>one way to find out preseason and then if it

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:34.160
<v Speaker 2>doesn't work out. But I mean that that's staggering. I

0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:36.960
<v Speaker 2>mean drafts now, remember a lot of this time in

0:30:37.000 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 2>the mid two thousands, this was a run first team, right,

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:46.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, d and Maurice doesn't matter. David Garrard is

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:50.080
<v Speaker 2>a quarterback. Terrible job of drafting in rounds one, two,

0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 2>and three at that position. Terrible. Yeah, and in the

0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 2>league has become a passing league. That's the whole point.

0:30:57.840 --> 0:31:00.880
<v Speaker 2>I think the reason why this team was run heavies

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:03.680
<v Speaker 2>because the draft picks that we just saw were not

0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 2>very good, and the quarterbacks picks weren't very cut. There's

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:10.800
<v Speaker 2>a lot of reasons why they weren't very good some years.

0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 2>The Jaguars are celebrating their thirtieth season this year, though,

0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:15.520
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<v Speaker 4>After the thirty business, we want to make sure that

0:31:57.840 --> 0:32:00.160
<v Speaker 4>everyone has all the information that we need to have

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 4>on the player, all the background information checks out, if

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 4>they've had any character issues in their background.

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<v Speaker 4>All that we get all the documentation on all of

0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:09.360
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0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:10.560
<v Speaker 2>What we're trying to prevent.

0:32:10.680 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 4>Now draft a surprises, something comes up from the past

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 4>that has sprung on us. We don't know, we don't

0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 4>have information on us, so now we can't make a

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 4>good decision on whether we want to take this player

0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 4>or not. So you're getting all the background info.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably about two weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>To ten days before the draft, the medical team will

0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:29.240
<v Speaker 4>come in and they'll go through and talk about, Hey,

0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 4>here are the guys.

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:30.800
<v Speaker 3>Who have issues.

0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:34.240
<v Speaker 4>Here's the risk assessment on all of these guys. We

0:32:34.280 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 4>can put these guys on the board or they can

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 4>take them off the board based on what the doctors say.

0:32:39.360 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 4>And then the final part of it is just scrimmaging

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:44.440
<v Speaker 4>out what we call the clusterbuster, the guys that are

0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 4>closely graded. But how do we want to stack the

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:50.840
<v Speaker 4>board in order? They're three closely graded corners, what is

0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:51.560
<v Speaker 4>our preference?

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<v Speaker 2>That's Bucky Brooks from the Huddle Up podcast available on

0:32:56.040 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 2>the Official Jaguars Podcast Network, posted yesterday afternoon and welcome

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<v Speaker 2>That was with three weeks to go. I asked Bucky,

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<v Speaker 2>what's your checklist as a GM to be ready to

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<v Speaker 2>go on draft night? And that was the bulk of

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<v Speaker 2>out the first round. Yeah, looking forward to that. I

0:33:57.600 --> 0:34:00.000
<v Speaker 2>love following the draft. I mean, I'm gonna watch the draft.

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:02.800
<v Speaker 2>Why not do a radio show? And you know, I'm

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:04.560
<v Speaker 2>a little bit more vested in it, you know, because

0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:08.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm watching these guys and I don't necessarily rank or

0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:10.600
<v Speaker 2>stack a board, but I kind of in my mind

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:14.080
<v Speaker 2>when when I when I see a pick, then I

0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 2>sit there and I go, was that the right move

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:18.319
<v Speaker 2>to make? I'm like, why did they pick that guy?

0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:20.400
<v Speaker 2>Or I love that pick? You know, you kind of

0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:23.200
<v Speaker 2>love it because then you kind of go back in

0:34:23.320 --> 0:34:26.520
<v Speaker 2>years later and look at the draft and you go, yeah,

0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:29.160
<v Speaker 2>see I was right, or boy I was totally wrong

0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:31.839
<v Speaker 2>on that one. Trust me, there's been many of them.

0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:34.480
<v Speaker 2>I think everybody can say that. Oh yeah, I mean

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:38.239
<v Speaker 2>that's why it's every g It's a percentages game. Yeah. Now,

0:34:38.320 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 2>good football teams are the ones that realize that it

0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:44.640
<v Speaker 2>is a percentage game and that they're not always going

0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:47.520
<v Speaker 2>to be right, and that the sooner that they admit

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:49.680
<v Speaker 2>that they made a mistake, the better off they're going

0:34:49.760 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 2>to be. When teams continue to try to hold on

0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:57.360
<v Speaker 2>to what is a mistake, or they continue to believe

0:34:57.440 --> 0:35:00.080
<v Speaker 2>that they have the answer, we can fix it, and

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:04.280
<v Speaker 2>they ignore that position in the future, that's where teams

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:06.520
<v Speaker 2>get in trouble. They have to ruse. And I remember

0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:10.960
<v Speaker 2>talking to Bill Polling about this, and I asked him, so, Bill,

0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:15.200
<v Speaker 2>what's the most important thing that you've learned to the

0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:18.000
<v Speaker 2>job of being a general manager? And he said, you

0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:21.720
<v Speaker 2>never can be attached to your picks to the point

0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:24.239
<v Speaker 2>to where you make mistakes in the future because you

0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:26.120
<v Speaker 2>have such a strong belief in them. You have to

0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 2>believe in them. But you can only carry that belief

0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:33.320
<v Speaker 2>so far. It can't be blind faith. It's got to

0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:37.040
<v Speaker 2>be a smart move with the understanding that it is

0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:40.879
<v Speaker 2>a percentage game. Blind faith. Great one album band, by

0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:45.680
<v Speaker 2>the way, Yeah, very true. What was one of the

0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 2>members of that band, Eric Clapton. The most famous one

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:52.000
<v Speaker 2>of that band, Steve Winwood there with him two big

0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:55.759
<v Speaker 2>name Ginger Baker was the drummer. For get who the

0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:59.839
<v Speaker 2>bass player was. I don't know. Let's keep it player.

0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:02.520
<v Speaker 2>It's time to keep it real here in our copic

0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:07.160
<v Speaker 2>today on keeping it real. How concerned are you about

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:10.719
<v Speaker 2>the Houston Texans trading for wide receiver Stefan Diggs from

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:15.359
<v Speaker 2>the Bills. I'm kind of excited about excited really? Yeah,

0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:18.040
<v Speaker 2>where where's Stefan? Where's Stefan Digg's ever been?

0:36:18.120 --> 0:36:18.319
<v Speaker 3>Where?

0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:23.359
<v Speaker 2>It's been a good situation and everybody's happy. I mean

0:36:23.360 --> 0:36:28.000
<v Speaker 2>they're happy when they win games exactly. Okay, he's it's

0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:32.239
<v Speaker 2>kind of a it's he is a good hand when

0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:36.680
<v Speaker 2>things are going well. Okay, Okay, he's not a He's

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:40.000
<v Speaker 2>not one of those players when times get tough, we're

0:36:40.000 --> 0:36:44.160
<v Speaker 2>gonna circle the wagons and depend and lean on the

0:36:44.280 --> 0:36:47.959
<v Speaker 2>veterans and the leadership. Is he one of those guys? JP?

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:52.040
<v Speaker 2>Do you think based on what you've seen over the

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:57.520
<v Speaker 2>last five or six years. I mean you could argue, no, yeah,

0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:00.720
<v Speaker 2>he's not that guy. No, he's but he's really damn good.

0:37:01.040 --> 0:37:03.359
<v Speaker 2>He's good. I don't know if he's really damn good.

0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:09.000
<v Speaker 2>He's good. If I'm the Houston Texans. You're questioning it.

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:12.920
<v Speaker 2>I am not. I am First of all, I am

0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:16.719
<v Speaker 2>not gonna pay him, of which they don't have a

0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:19.920
<v Speaker 2>big financial responsibility. Yeah, they I'm not gonna give up

0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:23.000
<v Speaker 2>for him. Yeah. The Texans apparently wiped out the final

0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:26.080
<v Speaker 2>three years of the contract the reports just moments ago,

0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:29.920
<v Speaker 2>and he has the ability to become a free agent

0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:32.840
<v Speaker 2>after this coming season. So the Texans also took the

0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:35.120
<v Speaker 2>three and a half million dollars guaranteed next season and

0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:38.920
<v Speaker 2>moved it into this season. So that assures digs of

0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:41.560
<v Speaker 2>twenty two and a half million guaranteed this year. The

0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:44.799
<v Speaker 2>only good thing is that the Texans didn't give a

0:37:44.800 --> 0:37:49.239
<v Speaker 2>whole lot up. It was really not a whole lot

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:52.880
<v Speaker 2>from a draft picks standpoint. What was it like a second,

0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:56.200
<v Speaker 2>wasn't it. I don't think it was. I don't think

0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:58.960
<v Speaker 2>it was that high. I thought it was later than

0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:01.360
<v Speaker 2>that double check then, But I mean, I don't think it.

0:38:02.080 --> 0:38:05.560
<v Speaker 2>And look, here's the reality. If he's a good player

0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:07.840
<v Speaker 2>for them, if he's a happy camper. There was a

0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:10.040
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four to sixth round pick and a twenty

0:38:10.040 --> 0:38:12.560
<v Speaker 2>five fifth round pick, which has changed for a second

0:38:12.719 --> 0:38:16.600
<v Speaker 2>in twenty five and the receiver, which is nothing. Yeah, okay,

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:21.200
<v Speaker 2>you're right, so the cost was virtually nothing nothing, So

0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:26.120
<v Speaker 2>you're if Diggs is happy, okay, then you've got a

0:38:26.160 --> 0:38:30.440
<v Speaker 2>wide receiver corp in Houston. That's oh my goodness. So

0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:34.960
<v Speaker 2>if he's happy, you don't like six straight years over

0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 2>a thousand yards. No, I like it, but I don't

0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:38.800
<v Speaker 2>like the headaches that go along with it. You remember

0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:40.640
<v Speaker 2>last year we got supposed I got thrown out of

0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:45.000
<v Speaker 2>the building or left the building. And then who hasn't

0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:47.640
<v Speaker 2>been thrown out of a building? Seriously? Come on, I'm

0:38:47.680 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 2>kidding yours. I'm kidding. I haven't lately, No, not yet anyway, Yeah,

0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:56.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm especially with a young quarterback. How did we

0:38:56.320 --> 0:39:00.160
<v Speaker 2>play against him last year? Let me just fit with

0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:03.480
<v Speaker 2>a young quarterback to where you have a really, really

0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:09.799
<v Speaker 2>a strong receiver room already, and with a young receiving room,

0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:12.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm not bringing that in there. If it's me, I'm not.

0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:15.719
<v Speaker 2>And that's one of the reasons why Buffalo said we've

0:39:15.719 --> 0:39:19.200
<v Speaker 2>had enough. Were just get this guy out of here.

0:39:20.120 --> 0:39:23.319
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know what was the last straw that

0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:27.839
<v Speaker 2>made the Buffalo Bills just say, look, we're done. I mean,

0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:31.280
<v Speaker 2>was it him Diggs making a comment on social media

0:39:31.320 --> 0:39:34.520
<v Speaker 2>about how important he was to the success of Josh

0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:37.839
<v Speaker 2>Allen kind of how he made Josh Allen. I don't

0:39:37.840 --> 0:39:40.719
<v Speaker 2>know if it was that or if they just had

0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 2>enough from last year. All right, it went over a

0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:47.319
<v Speaker 2>thousand yards last year. But his last one hundred yard

0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:50.719
<v Speaker 2>game was Week six. He had five of the first

0:39:50.760 --> 0:39:53.040
<v Speaker 2>six games one hundred yards, eight for one twenty one

0:39:53.080 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 2>against the Jags, including a touchdown right before halftime in London. Remember, no, no,

0:39:57.640 --> 0:40:00.319
<v Speaker 2>I totally get it. I'm just out of I'm not

0:40:00.360 --> 0:40:05.680
<v Speaker 2>a fan. Not a fan, especially when you already have

0:40:05.800 --> 0:40:09.239
<v Speaker 2>two really good wide receivers and when you in free

0:40:09.320 --> 0:40:13.560
<v Speaker 2>agency you could have gotten some other players that didn't

0:40:13.600 --> 0:40:16.120
<v Speaker 2>have that baggage that go along with them. But if

0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:21.239
<v Speaker 2>he's right, if he's in a good headspace, look out.

0:40:21.400 --> 0:40:24.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't like if players can that system can They

0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:29.120
<v Speaker 2>don't like if players, But can the Houston system absorb that?

0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:30.759
<v Speaker 2>That's the question. It's so new to You got to

0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:32.840
<v Speaker 2>have a strong locker room to have a have a

0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:35.600
<v Speaker 2>player like that, you do. You gotta have strong You

0:40:35.600 --> 0:40:38.120
<v Speaker 2>gotta have strong locker room, and you got to have

0:40:38.200 --> 0:40:42.680
<v Speaker 2>strong coach now, Demiko Ryan strong coach. I think Demiico

0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:44.880
<v Speaker 2>can handle that. Can the locker room, I don't know.

0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Can the can that room handle that? I don't know.

0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:51.239
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not saying he's a terrible bad guy, but

0:40:51.280 --> 0:40:53.439
<v Speaker 2>he's one of those guys that if things are going well,

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:55.480
<v Speaker 2>yeah he's he's all for If he's getting the ball,

0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:58.080
<v Speaker 2>yeah he's all for it. Yeah we're yeah, go team.

0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:01.239
<v Speaker 2>If he doesn't get some targets all sudden, he's gonna

0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:04.480
<v Speaker 2>mope around. And and you've got a second year quarterback

0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:07.000
<v Speaker 2>and c J. Stroud. Do you want see J. Stroud

0:41:07.080 --> 0:41:07.879
<v Speaker 2>to have to deal with that?

0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:09.439
<v Speaker 3>Ah?

0:41:10.520 --> 0:41:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Not me. That was keeping it real as we do

0:41:15.000 --> 0:41:18.279
<v Speaker 2>each and every week on xl AM, Jaguars dot Com,

0:41:18.320 --> 0:41:21.759
<v Speaker 2>Jaguars YouTube. Jaked Shadwick jan here's a fact though. Oh boy,

0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:26.600
<v Speaker 2>you better get some corners, right, you got somebody's gotta

0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:31.879
<v Speaker 2>defend these. If he if he's happy they've got that. Now.

0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:35.840
<v Speaker 2>The Texans have got three really good wide receivers. The

0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:40.120
<v Speaker 2>rookie that they had last year, Tank Dell. Yeah, I

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:44.479
<v Speaker 2>mean runs via people. It sounded fast. The big wide

0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:49.040
<v Speaker 2>receiver that's got great speed. Oh god, yeah, the other guy,

0:41:49.160 --> 0:41:54.799
<v Speaker 2>the other guy. Yeah, I mean, I mean they've got

0:41:54.800 --> 0:41:58.680
<v Speaker 2>two burners, and now you add this guy if he's happy.

0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:03.000
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<v Speaker 2>Jaguars YouTube JP Shadwick with Jeff Flagman, It's time for

0:43:11.640 --> 0:43:16.360
<v Speaker 2>social media questions, presented or powered rather by Microsoft. We

0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:19.399
<v Speaker 2>put out the cat signal earlier today. Here's the best

0:43:19.400 --> 0:43:23.560
<v Speaker 2>we've come up with at shrekspositos six ' nine. How

0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:25.799
<v Speaker 2>much do you think the team would realistically give up

0:43:25.840 --> 0:43:27.680
<v Speaker 2>for a trade up to get one of the top

0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:30.759
<v Speaker 2>three receivers and in your opinion, would it be worth it.

0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:34.160
<v Speaker 2>I would think Marvin Harrison is the top receiver. I

0:43:34.160 --> 0:43:37.680
<v Speaker 2>don't think you're getting there. Yeah, I don't think you

0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:41.279
<v Speaker 2>need to. No. I mean, why would you want to

0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:44.279
<v Speaker 2>get up, trade up and to get up into that

0:43:44.400 --> 0:43:47.920
<v Speaker 2>stratosphere because it would be extremely costly. Okay, if you're

0:43:47.920 --> 0:43:51.840
<v Speaker 2>going to get up there and get Harrison, you're gonna

0:43:51.880 --> 0:43:54.439
<v Speaker 2>have to get to what to pick three or four?

0:43:54.880 --> 0:43:58.080
<v Speaker 2>Probably four or five because the quarterbacks are probably going

0:43:58.080 --> 0:44:01.160
<v Speaker 2>at least the top three, okay, the top four Okay,

0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:04.480
<v Speaker 2>so four or five and then the next highest rated

0:44:04.480 --> 0:44:08.960
<v Speaker 2>wide receiver according to my list, is Neighbors out of LSU. Okay,

0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:17.719
<v Speaker 2>so you're looking at four, maybe six. You you might

0:44:17.800 --> 0:44:23.160
<v Speaker 2>have to give up a future one to get up

0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:27.479
<v Speaker 2>that high from seventeen, right, I mean because oh yeah,

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:32.080
<v Speaker 2>the future one gets valued as a current two, so

0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:34.040
<v Speaker 2>you'd have to give up a two and then something

0:44:34.080 --> 0:44:37.640
<v Speaker 2>and you're not gonna do that. It's not worth it. Supposedly,

0:44:38.400 --> 0:44:41.399
<v Speaker 2>it's a very deep wide receiver draft. And here's the thing.

0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:43.920
<v Speaker 2>I think all future drafts are going to be very

0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:47.400
<v Speaker 2>deep wide receiver drafts just because of the college game.

0:44:47.960 --> 0:44:51.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's become a passing game. There's more developed

0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:53.640
<v Speaker 2>wide receivers than there used to be in the past.

0:44:54.239 --> 0:44:58.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't think you trade up to do that. I'm

0:44:58.080 --> 0:45:01.440
<v Speaker 2>not a big fan of trading up anywhere AJP. Why

0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:04.799
<v Speaker 2>because it's a percentages game. You need bodies right when

0:45:04.840 --> 0:45:08.880
<v Speaker 2>you start trading up, then you're losing, okay, the percentages

0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:13.200
<v Speaker 2>game because you're not keeping the picks and the cost

0:45:13.320 --> 0:45:17.320
<v Speaker 2>is prohibitive. Yeah, it's becoming a wide receiver game in

0:45:17.360 --> 0:45:20.399
<v Speaker 2>the NFL, right, but it's a different style of game.

0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:23.239
<v Speaker 2>There's more space in college football, right because of the

0:45:23.320 --> 0:45:27.120
<v Speaker 2>hashmarks and the way it's played, the figuring out the

0:45:27.160 --> 0:45:30.120
<v Speaker 2>transition how guys can transition, and then at the line

0:45:30.160 --> 0:45:32.160
<v Speaker 2>when you've got press coverage. In the NFL, it's a

0:45:32.160 --> 0:45:35.000
<v Speaker 2>different world, and some wide receivers have a little bit

0:45:35.040 --> 0:45:38.279
<v Speaker 2>of struggle in their first season adapting to the NFL game. Yeah,

0:45:38.560 --> 0:45:41.759
<v Speaker 2>very few wide receivers coming to the league and have

0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:45.719
<v Speaker 2>a Jamar Chase type of year. It doesn't happen, or

0:45:46.160 --> 0:45:50.200
<v Speaker 2>a Justin Jefferson type of rookie season. It doesn't happen.

0:45:50.760 --> 0:45:54.840
<v Speaker 2>So you got to have a little patience. But to

0:45:54.880 --> 0:45:58.560
<v Speaker 2>answer the initial question, I'm not doing it. Okay, the

0:45:58.640 --> 0:46:02.640
<v Speaker 2>cost is prohibitive. Stay where you are and pick a

0:46:02.640 --> 0:46:05.359
<v Speaker 2>wide receiver then, or pick a wide receiver in round two.

0:46:06.320 --> 0:46:08.480
<v Speaker 2>That's okay. I know a former Jags head coach that

0:46:08.520 --> 0:46:10.200
<v Speaker 2>probably would have wanted to do it. Thank goodness, you

0:46:10.239 --> 0:46:15.000
<v Speaker 2>got around two. Yeah, that's right. Okay, let's not forget

0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:17.520
<v Speaker 2>it's true. They could have lost that, which would have

0:46:17.560 --> 0:46:20.839
<v Speaker 2>been a mistake. That was a good move by Trent

0:46:20.920 --> 0:46:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Balky letting him walk or let not signing him before

0:46:25.960 --> 0:46:29.440
<v Speaker 2>the league year, not sign before the calendar year, and

0:46:29.480 --> 0:46:31.600
<v Speaker 2>then so then you have to allow him to be

0:46:31.680 --> 0:46:35.120
<v Speaker 2>able to hear other offers, and then that's what happens.

0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:38.399
<v Speaker 2>That's what happened. You don't give up a second round

0:46:38.480 --> 0:46:42.319
<v Speaker 2>pick for a guy like that. I mean, let's not

0:46:42.400 --> 0:46:45.320
<v Speaker 2>forget to give it a third round pick for that's okay,

0:46:45.960 --> 0:46:48.440
<v Speaker 2>because you thought you were gonna hit, it didn't hit.

0:46:49.080 --> 0:46:51.960
<v Speaker 2>It was okay. Yeah, but let's not forget that there

0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:57.040
<v Speaker 2>was some troubles last year. Everything didn't go perfectly. Okay,

0:46:57.000 --> 0:46:58.800
<v Speaker 2>he got a thousand yards, but he got to a

0:46:58.840 --> 0:47:01.640
<v Speaker 2>thousand yards because it was so many injuries. Elsewhere does

0:47:01.640 --> 0:47:03.520
<v Speaker 2>he get to a thousand yards if all those injuries

0:47:03.719 --> 0:47:07.760
<v Speaker 2>don't don't happen elsewhere, If all those injuries happen elsewhere,

0:47:07.800 --> 0:47:12.160
<v Speaker 2>he's probably getting playoff yardage. Everybody's happy. Yeah, but the

0:47:12.160 --> 0:47:15.160
<v Speaker 2>regular season numbers wouldn't have been over a thousand. Yeah,

0:47:15.200 --> 0:47:17.040
<v Speaker 2>but they would have been the playoffs. And who cares?

0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:19.640
<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe not. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe

0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:21.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm not in his head. Maybe he does care. I

0:47:21.840 --> 0:47:23.800
<v Speaker 2>don't know. It doesn't matter, but I think the Jaguars

0:47:23.800 --> 0:47:25.920
<v Speaker 2>did a good thing. You gotta cover him now too,

0:47:25.960 --> 0:47:31.920
<v Speaker 2>by the way, Tennessee, Okay, Calvin, one thing about wide receivers.

0:47:34.000 --> 0:47:37.840
<v Speaker 2>Give me a wide receiver that's like Tank Dell or

0:47:38.280 --> 0:47:40.439
<v Speaker 2>just we were talking about the other wide receiver Nico

0:47:40.520 --> 0:47:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Collins for the Texans. Those guys can fly. Okay, I

0:47:47.280 --> 0:47:50.760
<v Speaker 2>worry about covering those guys. Did you ever see Colvin

0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Ridley get great separation or run by a guy with

0:47:53.440 --> 0:47:56.279
<v Speaker 2>great speed in training camp? In a game? He was

0:47:56.320 --> 0:47:59.279
<v Speaker 2>wide open? Remember training camp out here, they thought he

0:47:59.320 --> 0:48:06.120
<v Speaker 2>was Jerry Rice. You're talking about practice. I'm just telling you,

0:48:06.120 --> 0:48:09.040
<v Speaker 2>we're really talking about the first half of the Colts

0:48:09.040 --> 0:48:13.319
<v Speaker 2>game Week one. Yeah. Remember he had like one hundred

0:48:13.400 --> 0:48:15.520
<v Speaker 2>yards in the first half. Did he run by anybody?

0:48:15.960 --> 0:48:17.719
<v Speaker 2>He caught a touchdown in the back of the end zone,

0:48:17.760 --> 0:48:23.439
<v Speaker 2>I know, but did he run by Nokay? No, he's

0:48:23.440 --> 0:48:29.000
<v Speaker 2>an excellent, solid slot player. Let me, let me, let

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<v Speaker 2>me give you this question. I can't wait. Because you

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<v Speaker 2>have Christian Kirk and you have Calvin Redley. They're kind

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<v Speaker 2>of similar players. Okay, okay, if you had to pick one,

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<v Speaker 2>which one would you take? Oh? Kirk? Wait Kirk all day?

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<v Speaker 2>Because when he went down that's when the season went

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<v Speaker 2>really awry. He was the guy. There's your answer. He

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<v Speaker 2>was the guy. Let's get one more question, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>a tough one actually coming up at Jay Fix eighty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Who do you think is a Day two or Day

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<v Speaker 2>three steel for this year's draft? Well, this is hard

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<v Speaker 2>because you got to start digging into all these smaller

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<v Speaker 2>schools and things. I'm gonna switch the question around. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>who do you think is the best late round steal

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<v Speaker 2>for the Jags in their history? A guy that was

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<v Speaker 2>a late draft pick that worked out more than you

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<v Speaker 2>would have thought. And let's say from the fourth round on,

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<v Speaker 2>Telvin Smith comes to mind. Excellent pick in the fifth round,

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<v Speaker 2>great speed and watching pause and Telvin Smith in their

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<v Speaker 2>heyday was pure joy. Gosh through some other ones. Cecil

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<v Speaker 2>Shortz was a fourth rounder. I think, yeah, he's fourth.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't. I mean, that's not late. Yeah, gosh, that's

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<v Speaker 2>great question. You got a minute. I don't know, it's tough. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd have to see the list. Elvin's a pretty good

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<v Speaker 2>pick though, but I mean Telvin jumps out right away.

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<v Speaker 2>Did we ever figure out another word for generational? We

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<v Speaker 2>did not? We uh? We failed? Wow? We failed. That's

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<v Speaker 2>unlike us being masters of the English line enguage at all.

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<v Speaker 2>How QB of the decade, he's a quarterback of a

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<v Speaker 2>decade of a ten to fifteen to twenty years. Every

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<v Speaker 2>ten year somewhere in that ballpark. That's Jeff Logovan I'm

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<v Speaker 2>JP Schadricker. Thanks to Joe Fortunado and Brent Reeber, and

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<v Speaker 2>thanks to you for listening the Jaguars Happy Hour presented

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