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Speaker 2: We're three weeks to the NFL Draft, so we'll hear

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Speaker 2: from Trevor Sikkhima, pro football focused NFL draft analysts, get

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Speaker 2: his thoughts on a couple of position groups that could

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Speaker 2: be in play for the Jaguars, cornerback and wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: See what he has to say about that. The offseason

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Speaker 2: program right around the corner as well. That's a couple

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Speaker 2: of weeks, so ten days away or so eleven days,

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Speaker 2: the fifteenth, whatever. Today is the fourth. He just said it.

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Speaker 2: Joe just said it. It's the fourth. It's Thursday. Either way,

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Speaker 2: that's coming up. We'll get to that. We'll keep it

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Speaker 2: real as we always do. And microsoft questions from social media.

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Speaker 2: That all is coming up on tenon XLAM Jaguars dot

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Speaker 2: Com and Jaguars YouTube. JP Shadwick with Jeff Logoman from

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Speaker 2: the Miller Electric Center the Hyundai Studios. Good afternoon, afternoon,

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Speaker 2: How the heck are you. I'm doing great. I mean, well,

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Speaker 2: first of all, the weather today is fantastic. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: been the last couple of days, went raining, right and

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Speaker 2: then go a little rain. But I mean it's a

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Speaker 2: little nice and little chill in the air, a little breezy.

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Speaker 2: This is kind of the last chill, right. Not a

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Speaker 2: good day for fishing, but it's a good day to

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Speaker 2: be outside. Well, we're in the day for football. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say today we're a football day. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it would be like, oh man, it's perfect. Let's go. Hey,

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Speaker 2: this is the last kind of chill. It's gonna be

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Speaker 2: warm from here on. You think, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 2: We usually have a little bit of a one more. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean the rest of the month of April, we'll

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Speaker 2: have some cool weather. Come on, JP, I'm not ready

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Speaker 2: for summer yet. I'm not. I'm just I would I'm

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Speaker 2: asking somebody who would know. I know you're excited about

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Speaker 2: getting the the OTA stuff started. Yeah, okay, let's let's

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Speaker 2: just calm it down. By the way the Chargers already

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Speaker 2: started because they have a new head coach, right, And

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Speaker 2: it was kind of funny listening to Jim Harbaugh speak,

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Speaker 2: did you see any Everything's great, they're the best, The

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Speaker 2: team's doing great. It's the best attitude I've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: What else is he supposed to say? What else do

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Speaker 2: you expect him to say? These guys stinks. It's just

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Speaker 2: there's a reason I'm here. It's just funny. And the

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Speaker 2: same thing in Washington. You know, it's the hope that

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Speaker 2: you have with a new staff and and some new players.

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Speaker 2: You know how many times we've heard that around here

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Speaker 2: over the years. I know, I know what six head

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Speaker 2: coaches in the last twelve years. Look, look, I'm happy

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Speaker 2: with Doug Peterson, don't wrong. And I'm happy with the

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Speaker 2: direction of this organization. I mean it's it's good. Just

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Speaker 2: need to get better. But in years past there, you know,

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Speaker 2: we'd have a change in the organization and we're like, yes,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna get better, and then it wouldn't happen. It

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Speaker 2: can always be worse, but you know, you can always hope.

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Speaker 2: Spring is eternal. I guess, yeah, a good spot right now? Right,

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Speaker 2: I mean back to back now, But I'm excited about

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Speaker 2: to start yet, but you know, I'm excited about it

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Speaker 2: for a couple of different reasons. One to see some

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Speaker 2: action on the field, to see some of the new players.

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Speaker 2: But then I always like it once the draft class

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Speaker 2: comes in because then you get an idea of what

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Speaker 2: may be. That's when you get a feel. And also

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Speaker 2: you can get a feel as to Okay, now we

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Speaker 2: still have a couple holes. What do we have to

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Speaker 2: address in what I call the late free agent period

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Speaker 2: Because there's plenty of opportunities for teams to get better

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Speaker 2: once once you get past the draft, and some teams

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Speaker 2: need to get better past the draft. The good teams

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Speaker 2: sometimes wait until after the draft. Take a look at

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Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens. They don't participate a ton in free

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Speaker 2: them good, right They pick good players, they develop them,

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Speaker 2: That's helping their compensatory package.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: One position group that the Jags won't have to change

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Speaker 2: anytime soon, as middle linebacker fo Yer looking good with

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Speaker 2: He led the league in tackles, of course, in twenty

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Speaker 2: tackles in the NFL. And you like this movie, I

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Speaker 2: like it. I don't like it. I love it. Why

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Speaker 2: Because he's a really good football player. He's always available,

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Speaker 2: he's tough, he's dependable, he plays hard every snap. And

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Speaker 2: if you look at his film, you can watch plays

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Speaker 2: eighty snaps. And I'm not joking when I say that

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Speaker 2: the first ten looked as good as are the last

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Speaker 2: good of a player he is now. I think there

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Speaker 2: Man's a stud, stud and he's a leader. That's the

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Speaker 2: best part about it. Love the way he steps in

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Speaker 2: We're showing on jaguars dot Com and JAG's YouTube some

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Speaker 2: It was great play, awesome. So yeah, he's all over

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Speaker 2: the place and he'll be here for a while to come, sir.

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Speaker 2: He's an every down linebacker and he fills every stat

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Speaker 2: And you're talking about two years ago when Devin Lloyd

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Speaker 2: And I thought, you saw the improved play by Foyer.

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Speaker 2: Because I don't want to use this term, but I'm

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Speaker 2: He's he has instincts, football instincts, football intelligence, which goes

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Speaker 2: guys just know and anticipate. When you watch Foyer play,

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Speaker 2: ahead of most people because he studies the game and

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Speaker 2: JP Shadwick, Jeff Logoman. We'll hear from every second of

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Speaker 2: a pro football focus in less than ten minutes about

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Speaker 2: where there might be some value at number seventeen. Overall

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Speaker 2: I've been watching him. Because of the potential for five

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Speaker 2: I mean that doesn't happen too often, even when there

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Speaker 2: eyes on this week? I mean, obviously, Caleb Williams is

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Speaker 2: a lot of people are saying, a lot of the

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Speaker 2: pundits think he's going to be the number one overall

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams in the film that you've seen. He is

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Speaker 2: the plays break down. So there's a lot of quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: a bad thing, especially if you get a really good

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Speaker 3: football player on your team. So I think that, yeah,

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Speaker 3: when you look at the rest of that division, having

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Speaker 3: to play all those teams and those offenses at least

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Speaker 3: twice a year piece, that definitely ups the pressure to

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Speaker 3: make your secondary as good as it can be.

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Speaker 2: Trevor second and Pro Football Focus at Tampa Bay tray

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Speaker 2: on X. Well, that's one philosophy is to defend it

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Speaker 2: a little bit better. Well, the other one is to

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Speaker 2: you know, fight fire with fire and add some more

435
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Speaker 2: offensive weaponry for Trevor Lawrence at wide receiver and the

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Speaker 2: Jaguars historically in the early rounds have not drafted a

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Speaker 2: lot of wide receivers. Only nine all time in the

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Speaker 2: first three rounds have been selected by the Jaguars. Only

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Speaker 2: one of those, Trevor has made it to a second contract,

440
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Speaker 2: and that was Marquise Lee. The last first round draft

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Speaker 2: pick for the Jags at wide receiver was Justin Blackman

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Speaker 2: in twenty twelve. So they haven't historically fared well in

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Speaker 2: this department. But if they were to go the wide

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Speaker 2: receiver route, is there something there middle of the first round?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there absolutely is. And the good thing

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Speaker 3: about it is. You know, Jacksonville's sitting here, They've got

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Speaker 3: a second round pick, they got a third round compick

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Speaker 3: right now. I think that you could even maybe get

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Speaker 3: an impact receiver in the second and third round as well.

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Speaker 3: But I don't, you know, the big question is, Hey,

451
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Speaker 3: this wide receiver class is so good, it's so deep,

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Speaker 3: it's so talented. Does that deter you from taking one

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Speaker 3: in the first round because you think you get win

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Speaker 3: a little bit later. I think it's an interesting conversation

455
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Speaker 3: for teams to have, but I would tell you that

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't really let the thought of that get in

457
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Speaker 3: the way of me taking a guy who I think

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Speaker 3: could be a wide receiver one on my team. And

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Speaker 3: I think that when you look at an ad Mitchell

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Speaker 3: from Texas Brian Thomas Junior from LSU, those are two

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Speaker 3: of the wide receivers that I think could be in

462
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Speaker 3: that sweet spot off still available, but really high impact

463
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Speaker 3: players for them at number seventeen. If they don't move, it's.

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Speaker 4: It really is.

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Speaker 3: I think that both of those guys their games aren't

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Speaker 3: perfect yet, you know, it's not as well rounded as

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Speaker 3: it could be for either of them. But I mean,

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Speaker 3: you just look at the athletic baseline for both of

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Speaker 3: these guys. I mean, Ady Mitchell, relative athletics scorer, one

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Speaker 3: of the best wide receivers that we've seen over the

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Speaker 3: last you know, five six years. You know, you look

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Speaker 3: at Brian Thomas junior. Okay, primarily a vertical threat type

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Speaker 3: of guy. But while he is hopefully rounding out what

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Speaker 3: he could be as an all around receiver, what he

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Speaker 3: does now is that vertical guy is pretty dang unstoppable.

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Speaker 3: And we saw that in the SEC at LSU this

477
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Speaker 3: past year, almost two hundred and ten pounds runts of

478
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Speaker 3: four to three, three forty yard dash. And it was funny.

479
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Speaker 3: I was looking over some Jaden Daniels film the other day.

480
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Speaker 3: I was looking at how he was as a quarterback

481
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Speaker 3: when it came to throws on the run and scrambling.

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Speaker 3: So I was looking at a handful of those plays,

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Speaker 3: and there's just one throw where he just absolutely fits

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Speaker 3: it straight into the bucket, right in the bread basket

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Speaker 3: for Brian Thomas Junior. He's got about forty forty five

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Speaker 3: yards before he gets the end zone. He puts his

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Speaker 3: foot in the ground and he accelerates and you go, WHOA, Okay,

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Speaker 3: there it is, there's the four to three three we

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Speaker 3: see it. That's a difference making level speed, even at

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Speaker 3: the NFL level. So you can't help but think about,

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Speaker 3: all right, if your picture and that guy in Jags

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Speaker 3: colors and a Jags jersey, what it could be with

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Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence looking deep for him and connecting with him

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Speaker 3: in a vertical threat for this offense. So those are

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Speaker 3: the two guys that consistently go to if they're gonna

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Speaker 3: stick in the middle of the first round. You're hoping

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Speaker 3: that one of Brian Thomas Junior or Aby Mitchell from

498
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Speaker 3: Texas is going to be there for you. And they also,

499
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Speaker 3: because of their athleticism, feel like Trent Bulky types. So

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Speaker 3: I feel like they're gonna both be on the Jags radar.

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Speaker 2: As well as Trevor Sikoma of Pro Football Focus at

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Speaker 2: Tampa Bay, Trey on x JP Shadow, Jeff Logoman. They

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Speaker 2: have full conversation coming soon on Jaguars dot Com Jaguars

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Speaker 2: social media. Yeah, I mean those are two position groups

505
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Speaker 2: a lot of people who are picking to the Jaguars logs,

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Speaker 2: So you know, I'm still kind of on the corner

507
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Speaker 2: train myself. I mean, you can't have too many good cornerbacks,

508
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Speaker 2: especially with a division that's loading up on wide receiver talent. No,

509
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Speaker 2: and the good thing is is that the team kind

510
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Speaker 2: of filled some holes at both of those positions and

511
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Speaker 2: free agency, and so that helps, I think going in

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Speaker 2: the draft. So you feel like that, hey, if you're

513
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Speaker 2: making that call, hey, we're comfortable with what we have.

514
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Speaker 2: Let's just take the best player that's on our board.

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Speaker 2: If it's a wide receiver, great, if it's a defensive

516
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 2: tackle great, if it's an offensive tackle, great. I'm okay

517
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Speaker 2: with that. Just take the best player, the ones that

518
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Speaker 2: are going to give you the best chance to succeed,

519
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Speaker 2: because you know, at the end of the day, when

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Speaker 2: you have the best players, that's all that matters, because

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Speaker 2: you can end up getting compensatory picks for other players

522
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Speaker 2: that move on or you know, look, this team has

523
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Speaker 2: tried to fill holes in the past by drafting for need,

524
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Speaker 2: and it doesn't always work out and you end up

525
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Speaker 2: having a player who never even gets to a second

526
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Speaker 2: contract sometimes. So that's why you always draft the best players. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and I mentioned that wide receiver stat in the question

528
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Speaker 2: to I looked that up earlier today because I knew

529
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Speaker 2: obviously it wasn't great, and so I just tried to

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Speaker 2: figure out how not great it was. Repeat that again,

531
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Speaker 2: because I mean some people might not have heard that,

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Speaker 2: and you're seeing it on your screen on Jaguars dot com.

533
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Speaker 2: The Jaguars in rounds one, two, or three all time

534
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Speaker 2: have selected nine wide receivers in that stretch. Only one

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Speaker 2: of them has signed a second deal with the team,

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Speaker 2: and that was Marquise Lee. The others, for one reason

537
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Speaker 2: or another, never made it to a second deal or

538
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Speaker 2: never made it through their first deal with the team,

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Speaker 2: Justin Blackman being one of those twenty twelve, Well, and

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Speaker 2: leave that chart up there. I mean, let's let's talk

541
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Speaker 2: about them. RJ. Soward, some players you don't get to

542
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Speaker 2: a second contract because look, you're you're in some kind

543
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Speaker 2: of financial straits to where you can't afford to do that,

544
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Speaker 2: right right, So two thousand Soward, Matt Williams, Okay, No, No, RJ. Soward,

545
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Speaker 2: Reggie Williams, Matt Jones, Hey bus across the board, Bus

546
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Speaker 2: three of them. Bus all first round picks, by the way.

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Speaker 2: Oh seven, Mike Simms Walker the third round pick twenty twelve,

548
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Speaker 2: Justin Blackman, first round pick plus he had issues. He

549
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Speaker 2: was an incredible player when he was out there, but

550
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Speaker 2: he wasn't out there long. Uh. Twenty fourteen, two different

551
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Speaker 2: second round picks, Mark Eastlee and Alan Robinson, and both

552
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Speaker 2: of those guys good football players that could have warned

553
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Speaker 2: a second contract. So Marquise did he got They made

554
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Speaker 2: a choice there, they picked one of the other. They

555
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Speaker 2: chose Mark Eastley and then Alan Robinson moved on and

556
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Speaker 2: Lee got hurt after that and pretty much was done

557
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Speaker 2: by the way, and it was Davante Turpin whoever it

558
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 2: was Atlanta Falcons, total cheap show. It was like a

559
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Speaker 2: preseason season game, and he took him out at the knee. Terrible,

560
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: I remember that terrible. DJ Shark twenty eighteen second wasn't

561
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 2: by the way, it was somebody else. You're just accusing people.

562
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Speaker 2: I can't remember it. He was CAZy. It was Caz

563
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Speaker 2: thank you. Yeah, Chark was a good player but didn't

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Speaker 2: get a second deal here. Well, good player, but really

565
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Speaker 2: it's not like he left here and put up big numbers.

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Speaker 2: Kind of been a journeyman the rest of the time.

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Speaker 2: So I mean in Leviscus chanal H who just picked

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Speaker 2: him up to do to add him to maybe do

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Speaker 2: some kick returning stuff, because he when when they traded

570
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Speaker 2: him to Carolina, he has really had very few catches total.

571
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Speaker 2: Seahawks just signed seat and they were kind of pumping

572
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Speaker 2: them up, like, oh yeah, with the new kickoff return rules.

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Speaker 2: He's a good acquisition. And I'm going I mean, there's

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Speaker 2: one way to find out preseason and then if it

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Speaker 2: doesn't work out. But I mean that that's staggering. I

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Speaker 2: mean drafts now, remember a lot of this time in

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Speaker 2: the mid two thousands, this was a run first team, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, d and Maurice doesn't matter. David Garrard is

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Speaker 2: a quarterback. Terrible job of drafting in rounds one, two,

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Speaker 2: and three at that position. Terrible. Yeah, and in the

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Speaker 2: league has become a passing league. That's the whole point.

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Speaker 2: I think the reason why this team was run heavies

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Speaker 2: because the draft picks that we just saw were not

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Speaker 2: very good, and the quarterbacks picks weren't very cut. There's

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Speaker 2: a lot of reasons why they weren't very good some years.

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Speaker 4: After the thirty business, we want to make sure that

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Speaker 2: What we're trying to prevent.

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Speaker 4: Now draft a surprises, something comes up from the past

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Speaker 4: or not. So you're getting all the background info.

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Speaker 2: Probably about two weeks.

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Speaker 4: To ten days before the draft, the medical team will

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Speaker 4: here are the guys.

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Speaker 3: Who have issues.

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Speaker 4: Here's the risk assessment on all of these guys. We

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Speaker 4: take them off the board based on what the doctors say.

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Speaker 4: And then the final part of it is just scrimmaging

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Speaker 4: out what we call the clusterbuster, the guys that are

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Speaker 4: closely graded. But how do we want to stack the

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Speaker 2: Draft Party. You'll be there. I will be there. We've

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Speaker 2: got a radio show to do. Yeah, draft, right, we're

640
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 2: out the first round. Yeah, looking forward to that. I

641
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: love following the draft. I mean, I'm gonna watch the draft.

642
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 2: Why not do a radio show? And you know, I'm

643
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 2: a little bit more vested in it, you know, because

644
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 2: I'm watching these guys and I don't necessarily rank or

645
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 2: stack a board, but I kind of in my mind

646
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 2: when when I when I see a pick, then I

647
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: sit there and I go, was that the right move

648
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 2: to make? I'm like, why did they pick that guy?

649
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 2: Or I love that pick? You know, you kind of

650
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: love it because then you kind of go back in

651
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 2: years later and look at the draft and you go, yeah,

652
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 2: see I was right, or boy I was totally wrong

653
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 2: on that one. Trust me, there's been many of them.

654
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 2: I think everybody can say that. Oh yeah, I mean

655
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 2: that's why it's every g It's a percentages game. Yeah. Now,

656
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 2: good football teams are the ones that realize that it

657
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: is a percentage game and that they're not always going

658
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 2: to be right, and that the sooner that they admit

659
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: that they made a mistake, the better off they're going

660
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 2: to be. When teams continue to try to hold on

661
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 2: to what is a mistake, or they continue to believe

662
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 2: that they have the answer, we can fix it, and

663
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 2: they ignore that position in the future, that's where teams

664
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: get in trouble. They have to ruse. And I remember

665
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 2: talking to Bill Polling about this, and I asked him, so, Bill,

666
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 2: what's the most important thing that you've learned to the

667
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 2: job of being a general manager? And he said, you

668
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 2: never can be attached to your picks to the point

669
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Speaker 2: to where you make mistakes in the future because you

670
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 2: have such a strong belief in them. You have to

671
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 2: believe in them. But you can only carry that belief

672
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 2: so far. It can't be blind faith. It's got to

673
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 2: be a smart move with the understanding that it is

674
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 2: a percentage game. Blind faith. Great one album band, by

675
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Speaker 2: the way, Yeah, very true. What was one of the

676
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Speaker 2: members of that band, Eric Clapton. The most famous one

677
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 2: of that band, Steve Winwood there with him two big

678
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 2: name Ginger Baker was the drummer. For get who the

679
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 2: bass player was. I don't know. Let's keep it player.

680
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: It's time to keep it real here in our copic

681
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: today on keeping it real. How concerned are you about

682
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 2: the Houston Texans trading for wide receiver Stefan Diggs from

683
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 2: the Bills. I'm kind of excited about excited really? Yeah,

684
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: where where's Stefan? Where's Stefan Digg's ever been?

685
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Speaker 3: Where?

686
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 2: It's been a good situation and everybody's happy. I mean

687
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 2: they're happy when they win games exactly. Okay, he's it's

688
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 2: kind of a it's he is a good hand when

689
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 2: things are going well. Okay, Okay, he's not a He's

690
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 2: not one of those players when times get tough, we're

691
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 2: gonna circle the wagons and depend and lean on the

692
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,959
Speaker 2: veterans and the leadership. Is he one of those guys? JP?

693
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Speaker 2: Do you think based on what you've seen over the

694
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: last five or six years. I mean you could argue, no, yeah,

695
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,720
Speaker 2: he's not that guy. No, he's but he's really damn good.

696
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 2: He's good. I don't know if he's really damn good.

697
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 2: He's good. If I'm the Houston Texans. You're questioning it.

698
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: I am not. I am First of all, I am

699
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 2: not gonna pay him, of which they don't have a

700
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 2: big financial responsibility. Yeah, they I'm not gonna give up

701
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 2: for him. Yeah. The Texans apparently wiped out the final

702
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 2: three years of the contract the reports just moments ago,

703
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 2: and he has the ability to become a free agent

704
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 2: after this coming season. So the Texans also took the

705
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 2: three and a half million dollars guaranteed next season and

706
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 2: moved it into this season. So that assures digs of

707
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: twenty two and a half million guaranteed this year. The

708
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 2: only good thing is that the Texans didn't give a

709
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 2: whole lot up. It was really not a whole lot

710
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 2: from a draft picks standpoint. What was it like a second,

711
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 2: wasn't it. I don't think it was. I don't think

712
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 2: it was that high. I thought it was later than

713
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 2: that double check then, But I mean, I don't think it.

714
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 2: And look, here's the reality. If he's a good player

715
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 2: for them, if he's a happy camper. There was a

716
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four to sixth round pick and a twenty

717
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 2: five fifth round pick, which has changed for a second

718
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 2: in twenty five and the receiver, which is nothing. Yeah, okay,

719
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 2: you're right, so the cost was virtually nothing nothing, So

720
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 2: you're if Diggs is happy, okay, then you've got a

721
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 2: wide receiver corp in Houston. That's oh my goodness. So

722
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 2: if he's happy, you don't like six straight years over

723
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 2: a thousand yards. No, I like it, but I don't

724
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 2: like the headaches that go along with it. You remember

725
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 2: last year we got supposed I got thrown out of

726
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 2: the building or left the building. And then who hasn't

727
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: been thrown out of a building? Seriously? Come on, I'm

728
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 2: kidding yours. I'm kidding. I haven't lately, No, not yet anyway, Yeah,

729
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 2: I'm I'm especially with a young quarterback. How did we

730
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 2: play against him last year? Let me just fit with

731
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: a young quarterback to where you have a really, really

732
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 2: a strong receiver room already, and with a young receiving room,

733
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 2: I'm not bringing that in there. If it's me, I'm not.

734
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 2: And that's one of the reasons why Buffalo said we've

735
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 2: had enough. Were just get this guy out of here.

736
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 2: And I don't know what was the last straw that

737
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 2: made the Buffalo Bills just say, look, we're done. I mean,

738
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 2: was it him Diggs making a comment on social media

739
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 2: about how important he was to the success of Josh

740
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 2: Allen kind of how he made Josh Allen. I don't

741
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 2: know if it was that or if they just had

742
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 2: enough from last year. All right, it went over a

743
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 2: thousand yards last year. But his last one hundred yard

744
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 2: game was Week six. He had five of the first

745
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: six games one hundred yards, eight for one twenty one

746
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: against the Jags, including a touchdown right before halftime in London. Remember, no, no,

747
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 2: I totally get it. I'm just out of I'm not

748
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 2: a fan. Not a fan, especially when you already have

749
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 2: two really good wide receivers and when you in free

750
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: agency you could have gotten some other players that didn't

751
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 2: have that baggage that go along with them. But if

752
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 2: he's right, if he's in a good headspace, look out.

753
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 2: I don't like if players can that system can They

754
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 2: don't like if players, But can the Houston system absorb that?

755
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 2: That's the question. It's so new to You got to

756
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 2: have a strong locker room to have a have a

757
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: player like that, you do. You gotta have strong You

758
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: gotta have strong locker room, and you got to have

759
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 2: strong coach now, Demiko Ryan strong coach. I think Demiico

760
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 2: can handle that. Can the locker room, I don't know.

761
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 2: Can the can that room handle that? I don't know.

762
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying he's a terrible bad guy, but

763
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,439
Speaker 2: he's one of those guys that if things are going well,

764
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 2: yeah he's he's all for If he's getting the ball,

765
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 2: yeah he's all for it. Yeah we're yeah, go team.

766
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 2: If he doesn't get some targets all sudden, he's gonna

767
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: mope around. And and you've got a second year quarterback

768
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 2: and c J. Stroud. Do you want see J. Stroud

769
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 2: to have to deal with that?

770
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:09,439
Speaker 3: Ah?

771
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 2: Not me. That was keeping it real as we do

772
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 2: each and every week on xl AM, Jaguars dot Com,

773
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 2: Jaguars YouTube. Jaked Shadwick jan here's a fact though. Oh boy,

774
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 2: you better get some corners, right, you got somebody's gotta

775
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 2: defend these. If he if he's happy they've got that. Now.

776
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 2: The Texans have got three really good wide receivers. The

777
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 2: rookie that they had last year, Tank Dell. Yeah, I

778
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:44,479
Speaker 2: mean runs via people. It sounded fast. The big wide

779
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: receiver that's got great speed. Oh god, yeah, the other guy,

780
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 2: the other guy. Yeah, I mean, I mean they've got

781
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 2: two burners, and now you add this guy if he's happy.

782
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 2: Oh boy, oh boy. Uh Microsoft social media questions. When

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Speaker 2: player for Traffic. Yeah. After that, Yeah, it's all coming together.

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Speaker 2: Most famous traffic song in your opinion, Oh, mister Fantasy

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Speaker 2: by Fall, it's got a bit. Second most famous song

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Speaker 2: probably not Medicated Goo, but that was a good one.

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Speaker 2: Low spark, high heeled boys, that one. They have a long. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we could get into a long. We have another hour.

795
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Speaker 2: If we had another hour, we get into this. Maybe

796
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Speaker 2: we can do a podcast on the after show. Yeah,

797
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Speaker 2: you got time right now? Yeah? I got time. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I guess heyes, Jaguars Happy I gotta get Joe on

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Speaker 2: Jaguars YouTube JP Shadwick with Jeff Flagman, It's time for

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Speaker 2: social media questions, presented or powered rather by Microsoft. We

802
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Speaker 2: put out the cat signal earlier today. Here's the best

803
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Speaker 2: we've come up with at shrekspositos six ' nine. How

804
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 2: much do you think the team would realistically give up

805
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: for a trade up to get one of the top

806
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 2: three receivers and in your opinion, would it be worth it.

807
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 2: I would think Marvin Harrison is the top receiver. I

808
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: don't think you're getting there. Yeah, I don't think you

809
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 2: need to. No. I mean, why would you want to

810
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 2: get up, trade up and to get up into that

811
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 2: stratosphere because it would be extremely costly. Okay, if you're

812
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 2: going to get up there and get Harrison, you're gonna

813
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,439
Speaker 2: have to get to what to pick three or four?

814
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 2: Probably four or five because the quarterbacks are probably going

815
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 2: at least the top three, okay, the top four Okay,

816
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 2: so four or five and then the next highest rated

817
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 2: wide receiver according to my list, is Neighbors out of LSU. Okay,

818
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 2: so you're looking at four, maybe six. You you might

819
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 2: have to give up a future one to get up

820
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:27,479
Speaker 2: that high from seventeen, right, I mean because oh yeah,

821
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: the future one gets valued as a current two, so

822
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 2: you'd have to give up a two and then something

823
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 2: and you're not gonna do that. It's not worth it. Supposedly,

824
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 2: it's a very deep wide receiver draft. And here's the thing.

825
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 2: I think all future drafts are going to be very

826
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 2: deep wide receiver drafts just because of the college game.

827
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 2: I mean, it's become a passing game. There's more developed

828
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 2: wide receivers than there used to be in the past.

829
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 2: I don't think you trade up to do that. I'm

830
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 2: not a big fan of trading up anywhere AJP. Why

831
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 2: because it's a percentages game. You need bodies right when

832
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 2: you start trading up, then you're losing, okay, the percentages

833
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: game because you're not keeping the picks and the cost

834
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 2: is prohibitive. Yeah, it's becoming a wide receiver game in

835
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 2: the NFL, right, but it's a different style of game.

836
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: There's more space in college football, right because of the

837
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 2: hashmarks and the way it's played, the figuring out the

838
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 2: transition how guys can transition, and then at the line

839
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: when you've got press coverage. In the NFL, it's a

840
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 2: different world, and some wide receivers have a little bit

841
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 2: of struggle in their first season adapting to the NFL game. Yeah,

842
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 2: very few wide receivers coming to the league and have

843
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 2: a Jamar Chase type of year. It doesn't happen, or

844
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 2: a Justin Jefferson type of rookie season. It doesn't happen.

845
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 2: So you got to have a little patience. But to

846
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 2: answer the initial question, I'm not doing it. Okay, the

847
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 2: cost is prohibitive. Stay where you are and pick a

848
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Speaker 2: wide receiver then, or pick a wide receiver in round two.

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Speaker 2: That's okay. I know a former Jags head coach that

850
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Speaker 2: probably would have wanted to do it. Thank goodness, you

851
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 2: got around two. Yeah, that's right. Okay, let's not forget

852
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Speaker 2: it's true. They could have lost that, which would have

853
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 2: been a mistake. That was a good move by Trent

854
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Speaker 2: Balky letting him walk or let not signing him before

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00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 2: the league year, not sign before the calendar year, and

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Speaker 2: then so then you have to allow him to be

857
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 2: able to hear other offers, and then that's what happens.

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Speaker 2: That's what happened. You don't give up a second round

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Speaker 2: pick for a guy like that. I mean, let's not

860
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Speaker 2: forget to give it a third round pick for that's okay,

861
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 2: because you thought you were gonna hit, it didn't hit.

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00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 2: It was okay. Yeah, but let's not forget that there

863
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 2: was some troubles last year. Everything didn't go perfectly. Okay,

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Speaker 2: he got a thousand yards, but he got to a

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Speaker 2: thousand yards because it was so many injuries. Elsewhere does

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Speaker 2: he get to a thousand yards if all those injuries

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Speaker 2: don't don't happen elsewhere, If all those injuries happen elsewhere,

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Speaker 2: he's probably getting playoff yardage. Everybody's happy. Yeah, but the

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Speaker 2: regular season numbers wouldn't have been over a thousand. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but they would have been the playoffs. And who cares?

871
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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe not. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe

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Speaker 2: I'm not in his head. Maybe he does care. I

873
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 2: don't know. It doesn't matter, but I think the Jaguars

874
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 2: did a good thing. You gotta cover him now too,

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Speaker 2: by the way, Tennessee, Okay, Calvin, one thing about wide receivers.

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Speaker 2: Give me a wide receiver that's like Tank Dell or

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Speaker 2: just we were talking about the other wide receiver Nico

878
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Speaker 2: Collins for the Texans. Those guys can fly. Okay, I

879
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 2: worry about covering those guys. Did you ever see Colvin

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Speaker 2: Ridley get great separation or run by a guy with

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Speaker 2: great speed in training camp? In a game? He was

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Speaker 2: wide open? Remember training camp out here, they thought he

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Speaker 2: was Jerry Rice. You're talking about practice. I'm just telling you,

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Speaker 2: we're really talking about the first half of the Colts

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Speaker 2: game Week one. Yeah. Remember he had like one hundred

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00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 2: yards in the first half. Did he run by anybody?

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Speaker 2: He caught a touchdown in the back of the end zone,

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00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:23,439
Speaker 2: I know, but did he run by Nokay? No, he's

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Speaker 2: an excellent, solid slot player. Let me, let me, let

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Speaker 2: me give you this question. I can't wait. Because you

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Speaker 2: have Christian Kirk and you have Calvin Redley. They're kind

892
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Speaker 2: of similar players. Okay, okay, if you had to pick one,

893
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Speaker 2: which one would you take? Oh? Kirk? Wait Kirk all day?

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Speaker 2: Because when he went down that's when the season went

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Speaker 2: really awry. He was the guy. There's your answer. He

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Speaker 2: was the guy. Let's get one more question, and it's

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Speaker 2: a tough one actually coming up at Jay Fix eighty eight.

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Speaker 2: Who do you think is a Day two or Day

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Speaker 2: three steel for this year's draft? Well, this is hard

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Speaker 2: because you got to start digging into all these smaller

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Speaker 2: schools and things. I'm gonna switch the question around. Okay,

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Speaker 2: who do you think is the best late round steal

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Speaker 2: for the Jags in their history? A guy that was

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Speaker 2: a late draft pick that worked out more than you

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Speaker 2: would have thought. And let's say from the fourth round on,

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Speaker 2: Telvin Smith comes to mind. Excellent pick in the fifth round,

907
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Speaker 2: great speed and watching pause and Telvin Smith in their

908
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 2: heyday was pure joy. Gosh through some other ones. Cecil

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Speaker 2: Shortz was a fourth rounder. I think, yeah, he's fourth.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I mean, that's not late. Yeah, gosh, that's

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Speaker 2: great question. You got a minute. I don't know, it's tough. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'd have to see the list. Elvin's a pretty good

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Speaker 2: pick though, but I mean Telvin jumps out right away.

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Speaker 2: Did we ever figure out another word for generational? We

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Speaker 2: did not? We uh? We failed? Wow? We failed. That's

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Speaker 2: unlike us being masters of the English line enguage at all.

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Speaker 2: How QB of the decade, he's a quarterback of a

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Speaker 2: decade of a ten to fifteen to twenty years. Every

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Speaker 2: ten year somewhere in that ballpark. That's Jeff Logovan I'm

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Speaker 2: JP Schadricker. Thanks to Joe Fortunado and Brent Reeber, and

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