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Speaker 1: most talented guys in the NFL. All high character, super focused,

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Speaker 1: non fuck around guys, beloved by their teammates, loved by

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Speaker 1: their coaching staff. And anytime you bring in immaturity issues,

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Speaker 1: which are normal for ninety nine point nine percent of

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Speaker 1: us guys. We don't mature at the same rate as women.

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Speaker 1: I would say most of us mature probably greatly in

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Speaker 1: like our thirties, where I was going to high school

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Speaker 1: with girls that were like god girls ready for like

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Speaker 1: the real world. She's like seventeen years old. But there's

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Speaker 1: just something missing with Zach. There has been something missing

435
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Speaker 1: from the jump. And then there's a skill set where yeah,

436
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Speaker 1: he's got a good arm and he can move. Yet

437
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Speaker 1: when you watch it, it never actually translates to the game.

438
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Speaker 1: Like Kirk Cousins now for about seven eight years. Not

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Speaker 1: a great athlete, not the biggest arm. Yet you watch them,

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Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, that just works. Does it have its limitations,

441
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Speaker 1: of course, but does he know how to play the position?

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Speaker 1: Same thing with Jared Goff. By the second year, Sean

443
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Speaker 1: McVay goes, and you goes, this guy is never gonna

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Speaker 1: be Steve Young running around. He's never gonna have Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady's arm. But that's what a quarterback looks like. You

446
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Speaker 1: watch Zack Wilson, You're like, yeah, this guy. I would

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Speaker 1: not want this guy to be my starter. I always

448
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Speaker 1: love a good nugget. When it's like the Chiefs and

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins in Germany drew nine point two million people,

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Speaker 1: you always gotta put it in context relative to the

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Speaker 1: World Series. Congrats to my guy, Bruce Bochie. Fourth World

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Speaker 1: Series Championship, absolute winner the World Series. Now, granted, you know,

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Speaker 1: the Rangers have been around a long time, never won

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Speaker 1: a World Series, and the Diamondbacks are one of the

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Speaker 1: worst playoff teams in the history of baseball. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: a great matchup. It's not exactly Dodgers, Yankees or Red

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Speaker 1: Sox Cups, but it averaged nine point one million people,

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Speaker 1: So a lot of people watch this game now relative

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Speaker 1: to some previous Germany games. I think last year was

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Speaker 1: a little over five unique situation. You get the defending

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl champs against a really good team in the

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Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins. So if you give these these morning games

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Speaker 1: two playoff teams, it's gonna get eyeballs. That's a fact.

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Speaker 1: I think the problem is is a lot of the

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Speaker 1: good teams. You know, if you're a playoff level team

466
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Speaker 1: and you have to go over there and give up

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Speaker 1: a home game. It's one thing to give up a

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Speaker 1: home game against a shitty team. It's another thing to

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Speaker 1: give up a home game if you're I don't even

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Speaker 1: know whose home game that was. I assume it was Miami.

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Speaker 1: But if you're the Chiefs, you're playing the Bills, You're like,

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Speaker 1: this game could be in Kansas City. Can you just

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Speaker 1: give us the Bronco game over there? So I think

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Speaker 1: that's where they get themselves in some issues, because they

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Speaker 1: easily could build this morning slot into something that is

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Speaker 1: averaging seven eight million dollars. Now, granted, I benefited, as

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Speaker 1: I said the other day, from Mountain West time zone.

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Speaker 1: Arizona for whatever reason, doesn't change the clock, so half

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Speaker 1: the year's Mountain time zone, the other half specific stander

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Speaker 1: time zone. It was really easy for me to watch

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Speaker 1: this whole game now. Even if it was at six

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Speaker 1: point thirty. I definitely would have made an effort, even

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Speaker 1: on a Sunday morning, probably to try to get up

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Speaker 1: by about seven. But it just the clocks got rolled back.

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Speaker 1: Was I think it was perfect combination of some things.

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Speaker 1: But one thing's clear, and it's always clear. In the NFL,

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Speaker 1: if you give a fantastic matchup, people will watch. That

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Speaker 1: can't be said in baseball, and that can't be said

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Speaker 1: in basketball, because even if I give you Warriors, Lakers

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Speaker 1: or Dodgers Yankees, there's still gonna be major low's relative

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Speaker 1: to what those games used to be in years past.

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Speaker 1: That's not the case with the NFL. It's why we

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Speaker 1: talk so much about this NFL dominance. It's the only

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Speaker 1: thing in this world they can get us all to

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Speaker 1: agree to sit on a couch and watch. It's the

496
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Speaker 1: only thing. For a short period of time, Colorado was

497
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Speaker 1: drawn like ten million people. Dion had that power, perfect combination.

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Speaker 1: This famous guy becomes a coach football at one common

499
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Speaker 1: denominator is just football. You put football on whether it's fantasy,

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Speaker 1: whether it's gambling, whether it's just we like watching it.

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Speaker 1: It's easy. You know for a fact, everyone's gonna try

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Speaker 1: hard in the game. You know for a fact if

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Speaker 1: they're healthy, everyone's gonna play in the game. A ton

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Speaker 1: of different variables here, but they're all working on the

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Speaker 1: NFL side, clearly no slowing down in the process. I

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Speaker 1: went to spin class this morning. I've officially kind of

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Speaker 1: a fat ass, and I'm like, I gotta draw a

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Speaker 1: line in the sand. I need to working out is

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Speaker 1: not necessarily my problem. It's more my diet. I tend

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Speaker 1: to work out five or six days a week. My

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Speaker 1: diet can just fall for cliff Drinking probably doesn't help,

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Speaker 1: but mainly diet. So there's a spin class and we're

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Speaker 1: riding away and the lady leading the class fantastic. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: you ever go to spend class and you just watch

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Speaker 1: the chick leading it, You're like, God, she is She's

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Speaker 1: just smooth up there. How does she look so cool?

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Speaker 1: I look at myself in the mirror, I'm like clunky,

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Speaker 1: Like no wonder. Lance Armstrong was sucking down PDEs. This

519
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Speaker 1: is hard. She talked about like think of this like therapy.

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Speaker 1: Get get out all your endorphins, get sweat everything out,

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Speaker 1: and get yourself the right mindset for the rest of

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Speaker 1: the day. And I thought, my mind's always working for

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Speaker 1: the show. And I'm like, let's do a little Tuesday

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Speaker 1: therapy session. Let's do a little therapy Tuesday. And people

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Speaker 1: could be like, middle Coffee, you tend to be negative,

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Speaker 1: and it's like, yeah, that's true. You know, I get

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Speaker 1: it from This is all based on my childhood and

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Speaker 1: my family, and I can lean negative. I would be

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Speaker 1: the first to agree, let's be positive. Let's take something

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Speaker 1: negative and try to turn it into a therapy Tuesday positive.

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Speaker 1: And I was thinking about the Bears, a team I've

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Speaker 1: talked a lot of shit about, rightfully, so, I mean,

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Speaker 1: they've been atrocious. They almost won a year with losing.

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Speaker 1: They're hard to watch. They're starting a guy from Sheppard

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Speaker 1: College right now. Their coach just physically looks awful. Looks

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Speaker 1: like his whole head's gray now, looks like he needs

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Speaker 1: z to sandwich. Eberflus looks bad. I mean, talk about

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Speaker 1: a guy that looks like he needs a vacation. Firing

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Speaker 1: coach is left and right. They're not a lot going

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Speaker 1: for him not a fun team to watch. They're playing

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Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers this week, and so to me, this

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Speaker 1: can be a positive. You are going to be able

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Speaker 1: if you're a Bears fan to get a win. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna win a game, which in the NFL, even if

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Speaker 1: you're awful, those three or four times during the season

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Speaker 1: that you win are always cool. But you're also gonna

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Speaker 1: be able to beat the team you own their pick,

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Speaker 1: turn them one and eight, and have that pick headed

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Speaker 1: toward the number one overall pick, because I know a

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Speaker 1: lot of Bears fans would love to get the number

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Speaker 1: one and two pick. If you end up with the

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Speaker 1: number one pick, Whether that second pick is four, six,

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Speaker 1: three or eight, who cares. As long as you get

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Speaker 1: that number one pick, you control the draft, and that

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Speaker 1: second pick is just kind of gravy. So listen, Brighter

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Speaker 1: days are ahead. Didn't love the contract you signed, Sweat too,

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Speaker 1: but it is what it is. Once you trade the

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Speaker 1: second round pick, you might as well just give them

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Speaker 1: an unlimited amount of money. But you get to play

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Speaker 1: a game this week where if you win, the team

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Speaker 1: that loses also gets to benefit you. So I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to keep it positive here. Little Tuesday Therapy sash. Brighter

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Speaker 1: days are ahead for the Chicago Bears. Let's dive into

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Speaker 1: my friends at Dubretes because it's time for this week's

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Speaker 1: And I've been thinking a lot about this because, like

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Speaker 1: many of you, I haven't seen the rating yet. I

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Speaker 1: would imagine that Cowboy Eagle game was highest rated game

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Speaker 1: of the year. It was just a fantastic game at

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Speaker 1: your sheet seat to the bigger brands, and I said

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Speaker 1: all week long, Cowboys need to win Greedy. Cowboys need

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Speaker 1: to win Greedy. Then they're up seventeen to fourteen, and

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Speaker 1: then the Eagles come out, score a couple of touchdowns

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Speaker 1: and you're like, Cowboys just gonna lose. This game just

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Speaker 1: kind of roll over, and they didn't. They just kept battling.

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Speaker 1: But then every time they needed a big play, Dax

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Speaker 1: Prescott's foot was three inches out of bounds. The dude,

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Speaker 1: instead of being an inch into the end zone, was

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Speaker 1: an inch out of the end zone. You talk about

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Speaker 1: a game of inches, you talk about almost almost winning

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Speaker 1: the game, yet you lose. It's the Cowboys, and I

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Speaker 1: appreciate the brand. I grew up on the brand. You know,

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Speaker 1: there are some teams, actually there's really only one team.

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Speaker 1: I hate the Lakers. I despise the Lakers. I don't

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Speaker 1: hate the Dodgers really kind of irrelevant to me. They've

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Speaker 1: won one championship. I don't even count in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: they played sixty games. But for the most part, like

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Speaker 1: whatever Dodgers, well running organization. I actually kind of enjoy

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Speaker 1: watching them on TV. I despise the Lakers. Grew up

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Speaker 1: hating the Cowboys, but honestly because of Jerry, find them

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Speaker 1: kind of entertaining. Root for them to be good. I'm

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Speaker 1: glad now they're good because if we don't have to

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Speaker 1: fake talk about the Cowboys like you do have to

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Speaker 1: like fake talk about like the Yankees or when the

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Speaker 1: Lakers suck because they're so powerful, it is fun. If

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys are gonna win eleven twelve games, you can

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Speaker 1: just actually talk about football stuff them. They have elite players,

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Speaker 1: they have a Super Bowl winning coach who's very polarizing,

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Speaker 1: so it's real when we talk about the Cowboys. But

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Speaker 1: that was a game. You gotta win, man, you gotta

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Speaker 1: win and they came oh so close. I mean we're

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Speaker 1: talking several inches his foot out of bounds the play

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Speaker 1: even some on the final drive, they get the breaks

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Speaker 1: of a century with the pass interference, yet they lose

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Speaker 1: and you look up. The Eagles are gonna cruise this

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Speaker 1: division now and you had a chance to win. So

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Speaker 1: call the mailbag at job Middlecoffe's the Instagram. It's just

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Speaker 1: you were Lincoln Riley, who would you hire as a

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. I don't necessarily have a specific name, but

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Speaker 1: I do have a concept. A couple of years ago,

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Speaker 1: What does Harbaugh do at the Ravens hires McDonald to

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Speaker 1: So what does he do? He goes to the Ravens

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Speaker 1: and he hires a defensive back coach who happens to

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Speaker 1: be Anthony Lynn's sun Deanton Lynn, who has been awesome

639
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Speaker 1: for UCLA. I think there are a lot of younger

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Speaker 1: assistants that are in their early to mid thirties that

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00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: are dB coaches, that are linebacker coaches in the National

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00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: Football League that I would be all over. Now here's

643
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: my question for Lincoln. Does he truly understand where to look?

644
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: And does he truly care? Does he truly care? Like

645
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Speaker 1: I was around Andy Reid, I know he cares about

646
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: defensive football, right. I've seen it with Kyle Shanahan and

647
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: Sean McVay. They really really value defense. It means a

648
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: lot to him. They think about it a lot. When

649
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: I watched Lincoln Riley, I loved Mike Leach. I think

650
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Speaker 1: he's one of the great characters in the history of sports,

651
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 1: one of the most unique characters. But one thing cannot

652
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: really be disputed about Mike Leach. He didn't really give

653
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: a shit about defense, not at all. And I think Lincoln,

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00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: who worked for him for a long time, in a

655
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: huge part probably of his offensive philosophical beliefs in coaching,

656
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: beliefs in terms of how to score and how to run,

657
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 1: you know, run an operation. Start with Mike makes me nervous.

658
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 1: So I would be all over. I'd find the best

659
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: defense in the league. Some of their younger staff members

660
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: that are position coaches that are prime maybe have some

661
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: college experience. But even if they don't like, I'd be

662
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: all over if I was Lincoln Riley, why not just

663
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: steal UCLA's guy, double his salary? Deanton Lynn, you want

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Speaker 1: to come here? That seems pretty easy. Watching the game

665
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: last week, I wanted to throw by remote through the

666
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: TV watching Arthur Smith not use any of his young talent.

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Speaker 1: Does a GM who drafts all these sweet players get

668
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: mad at a coach for not utilizing talents that get

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Speaker 1: drafted highly? For example, wouldn't the Falcons GM be fed

670
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: up by using three first round picks on offense that

671
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: literally are used as blockers? I mean, what would be

672
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: your educated guests on that? One? I can't imagine. And

673
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: one theme I think it's sports history is that general

674
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: managers last executives can resent coaches when guys they draft

675
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: high or just draft that they like, do not factor

676
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: into games. And it's a it's one thing, a one

677
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: off game situation, who cares. But when it is consistently

678
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 1: over and over, I think you start resenting the coach,

679
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 1: resenting technically your partner, right and anytime you start resenting people,

680
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 1: it happens in personal relationships all the time it's usually

681
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: game over. So I think the Falcons are headed down

682
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 1: a very, very scary path because they've invested a lot.

683
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Speaker 1: Like you said, they just hell, they just drafted Bijon High.

684
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Speaker 1: I think I saw a quote today Arthur was like,

685
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: you know, we're using him a lot as a decoy

686
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: or he's opening a lot of stuff up for us.

687
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know if that's what you want

688
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: to be saying. My man, he was really good as

689
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator for the Titans. And Mike Vrabel this

690
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: is not going well. And as someone that rocked a

691
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: mustache last week, his mustache looks a lot better than me.

692
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: I don't know if you could rock a mustache when

693
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Speaker 1: you suck. Mike Vrabels rocked a mustache like he could

694
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Speaker 1: do it. Jim Harbaugh, Andy Reid or certainly I know

695
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: Jim doesn't, but Andy, like I Arthur Smith like, I

696
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Speaker 1: don't know if you can rock a mustache. I don't

697
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: even think he has it anymore. But come on, bro,

698
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: let's worry about figuring out your team. Lifelong Cardinals fan

699
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: here Kyler Murray has certainly had his ups and downs

700
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: in his young NFL career. He has a monster contract

701
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: with a ton of guaranteed money. The Cards look to

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00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: have a top five pick in the upcoming draft. Technically

703
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: it's two right now, Plus they have the Texans first

704
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: pick too, so that pick could be probably fifteen to twenty.

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Speaker 1: Do you expect them to draft a quarterback with their

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Speaker 1: pick or try to bolster their talent around Kyler? Also,

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Speaker 1: do you think the Cards front office trade Kyler at

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Speaker 1: the end of the season in anticipation of drafting another quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I think I laid it out earlier. I think you

710
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Speaker 1: open yourself up to both options. If he's good, and

711
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Speaker 1: he looks promising, and you like him, and he's grown

712
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: up as a guy, I think you could roll with

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Speaker 1: him and keep drafting around him. If you get the

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Speaker 1: number one overall pick and just go, you know, and

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Speaker 1: he's good, you trade him. Clearly. Worst case scenario, he

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Speaker 1: gets injured, you're on the hook. Maybe you win a

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Speaker 1: couple games and you don't even get the top couple picks.

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Speaker 1: I would do what they were doing if I own

719
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: the team, if I was behind the team, I would

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Speaker 1: I would play him if clearly you know he has

721
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: he can't be compromised out there, If he looks healthy,

722
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: he looks fluid, and he's anywhere you know, eighty five

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Speaker 1: ninety percent. You can't be one hundred percent until you

724
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Speaker 1: start playing some games. But I would do what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: Just was listening to one of your pods and got

726
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: to thinking about how the Jets should have traded for

727
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Speaker 1: Joshua Dobbs. This is why Willie Cologne went on this

728
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 1: epic rant last week. It's because the Jets were adamant

729
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: they felt good about Zach Wilson, and his whole thing was,

730
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Speaker 1: how could you feel good about Zack Wilson besides that

731
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: you just drafted him number two whatever, three years ago.

732
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: Who cares? That's long gone. He's either good enough or

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Speaker 1: he's not. And Joshua Dobbs is just a better player.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's not even debatable. But yeah, I think

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00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: they would like that one back that's on them. Of

736
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Speaker 1: all the teams that are doomed to finish this year

737
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: with a top five draft or even top ten, we'll

738
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Speaker 1: try to trade it back for players or more picks.

739
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: There are so much more leverage against teams who will

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00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: do anything to get a quarterback. There are plenty of

741
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 1: teams that have no viable quarterback, but are just good

742
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: enough that they won't get a good draft pick. That

743
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 1: happens a lot, that happens every single year. All these

744
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: teams then incomplete no man's land. Imagine if the Raiders

745
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: would have lost another game last year and it ended

746
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: up with like CJ. Stroud. Think about that. Think if

747
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: the Raiders just had a good quarterback. I don't think

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00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: they would be world beaters, but they'd probably be like

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00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 1: five and three right now. They have really good offensive pieces.

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00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: They got Max Crosby's like a defensive Player of the Year.

751
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 1: But when you just don't have a quarterback, you're just

752
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: kind of stuck in no man's land. And the problem is,

753
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: and this is what drives me nuts about what the

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00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: Dolphins did. So if I was a Dolphins fan, I

755
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: could never ever forgive Flores. We sucked so bad all

756
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: season and this guy in Louisiana looked like the fucking

757
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: second coming of Joe Montana meets Peyton Manning, and it's like,

758
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna get Joe Burrow. And then all of a

759
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: sudden to win three of your last five games and

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00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: to beat Cincinnati I think in overtime into now watched

761
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals, who I think. I saw a clip

762
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 1: on social media day Portanoy put like sixty eight grand

763
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: on them to win five hundred grand to win the

764
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I think that's a pretty good bet to me.

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Speaker 1: If you told me right now, if I had to

766
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: bet one thousand dollars on a team to win the

767
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, I'd probably pick the Bengals. Now, I guess

768
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: if I was really thinking about I might pick the

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00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: Eagles because technically their route is easier like the route

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00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: in the AFC. You know, you'd have to play the Ravens,

771
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: the Bengals, the Chiefs, even some of your random teams

772
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: like the Browns and the Steelers, like their defenses are

773
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 1: so good. The random teams like the Chargers have Justin Herbert,

774
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: so it's harder in the ANFC. But ultimately, like point

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00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: being is, and we talked about this yesterday, when you

776
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: get obviously, when you draft a quarterback, you're just looking

777
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: for a guy to be like a top fifteen player.

778
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: You're just hoping to be like Jared goff Right or

779
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. But if you get super stardom, it's like

780
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: you're headed to the moon. Just listen the Monday Night

781
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: Football Pod. I'm surprised no one asked about the Caleb

782
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: Williams video that went viral about him crying with his

783
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: parents in the stands. As a Bears fan, I'm paying

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00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: more attention to the college quarterbacks this year. Do you

785
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: see a problem with him crying? At first, I didn't

786
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: football sports are emotional. I saw some people ripping him

787
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: for being soft. But then I saw a Max dug

788
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: In video from his TCU run and him crying, and

789
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 1: Caleb tweeted lol about dug and crying, which makes Caleb

790
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: seem like a prick for crying. Now. Wanted to get

791
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: your thoughts on the situation. Obviously, the losses don't fall

792
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: in Caleb, but showing emotion rub some people the wrong way.

793
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: There is no arguing that Caleb had some douchey tendencies

794
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. Painting his nails fuck you to

795
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: the opponent is complete loser material. That tweet about Max

796
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 1: Dusy kind of loser material, like bro the dude's fucking

797
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: making a run in the National Championship. I don't have

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00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: the biggest issue with him crying with his mom after

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Speaker 1: losing and I'm recording this now. I assume he's playing

800
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: this week in Oregon. My assumption when he was crying

801
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: is that he was never gonna play another game that, like,

802
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 1: he was just gonna leave USC. They have no point

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00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: to play, even though they're technically still alive because they

804
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: play Oregon this week. They win that game, they could

805
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 1: still go to the conference championship game. But I assume

806
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: like his college career was over. I was out at dinner,

807
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: so I didn't get to watch the second half of

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00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: that game. Obviously lost again, lose by ten points. I

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00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: think here's the It doesn't bother me that much. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: I'm way more even the tweet, like I've sent a

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Speaker 1: million dumb tweets. Who the fucking cares about Twitter? I mean,

812
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 1: Twitter is completely irrelevant. We all tweet things that look dumb.

813
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: In hindsight, I think that the painting the nails was

814
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 1: as big of a d bag move as I can

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00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: ever remember for an elite player. Honestly, like that's Lincoln Riley.

816
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: Allowing that that reflects Lincoln Riley as well too. But

817
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: this season for USC, the hype that was behind him,

818
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: and he played awful against Notre Dame. But for the

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00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: most part he's been damn good and that team to

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00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: play like that, so I it doesn't bother me as much.

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Speaker 1: I'm not the biggest crier, though I get emotional at times,

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00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: like listen, we all I don't care. I guess overall

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00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: I don't care, and it's of course people on social media.

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00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: Everyone's going to have a take. My take simply was

825
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 1: like Lincoln Riley had one of the worst years coaching

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00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: in the history of the sport because he's the head coach,

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Speaker 1: He's not just the play caller, and to allow his

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Speaker 1: defense and that defensive coordinator to waste that quarterback like

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Speaker 1: for the most part, the quarterback play was fantastic offul

830
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: against Notre Dame. But doesn't bother me as much. I

831
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Speaker 1: guess overall, painting nails last year that that would be

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00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: something we'd have to talk about and listen, if he

833
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 1: said I was an idiot I was young. I've done

834
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: dumb shit when I was young too, So I give

835
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: leeway to younger people right to say stupid shit as

836
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: long as you change and as long as you can

837
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: acknowledge you did something dumb. If you doubled out on

838
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: dumb then I just think you're fucking moron, and then

839
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: you make me nervous. But his talent he in a vacuum,

840
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: non character leadership stuff. He is clearly the most talented

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00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 1: quarterback in this class. His only knock is short relative

842
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: to elite prospects. He's like, you know, Tad under six y'

843
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:48,280
Speaker 1: one best arm, athleticism, elite strength, elite accuracy, elite playmaking,

844
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: elite He's awesome. Love the comment about McDaniel being a

845
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: con man. You should put together a list of the

846
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 1: all time con men in the NFL. As a lion,

847
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:06,720
Speaker 1: I nominate Quinn Tricia, Bob Quinn and Matt Patricia. Those

848
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Speaker 1: two bozos had no clue. Keep up the good work. Okay,

849
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 1: let's just rattle through some con men in recent memory.

850
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: Joe Judge, who got the job with the Giants history says,

851
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: and I had heard that he went to the interview

852
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: and crushed it. Clearly, if Joe Judge is gonna crush

853
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: your interview in the NFL and you're gonna make him

854
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: as your head coach, that's a con man, because that

855
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,240
Speaker 1: is a fantastic way of fooling people. That guy should

856
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: never be a head coach. When I got out of

857
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: the NFL and started doing radio stuff, Jim Harbaugh was

858
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: going through. Him and Trent Balkey were buttonheads, and Trent

859
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: was much closer with Jed and Perogue, and then they

860
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: chose him over Harbaugh. One thing, and this guy was

861
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,240
Speaker 1: always known as this blue collar, tough guy. Tom Sula,

862
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: I had heard, was kind of backstabbing him behind the scenes.

863
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,720
Speaker 1: And when you are known as like mister in the trenches,

864
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: blue collar and everyman, but you're behind the scenes hob

865
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 1: nobbin with the owner and bad mouthing, not just Harbob

866
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: but Vic Fangio, it's kind of Conman tendencies, Like pretty

867
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 1: big con Man move. So I would put Tom Sula

868
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: up for his situation with Harbaugh. I would say Gruden

869
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: did a pretty excellent job of con man might be

870
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: the wrong word, but of just marketing his greatness and

871
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: how sweet he was. I bought into it that all

872
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: those years on television to then come back and I

873
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: was like, ay, John Gruden turned down job after job

874
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: after job. He's making ten million dollars on TV, He's

875
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: got colleges and NFL teams begging for him. Then he

876
00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:00,240
Speaker 1: gets to the NFL, just constantly lying through his teeth,

877
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: runs through a GM hires Mayock, makes the dumbest fucking

878
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: personnel moves. Listen, I give coaches a little lee way.

879
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 1: I don't expect them to be you know Howie Roseman

880
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: meets Bill Polly and meets theo Epstein and pat Riley

881
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 1: like they're gonna have limitations as personnel people. They're coaches.

882
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: They live in the present. But Gruden, I mean jumped

883
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: the shark on a disastrous front office situation and his

884
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: personnel moves, I mean guy after guy after guy. I mean,

885
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: you had multiple guys arrested in another first round pick

886
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: that's not even in the NFL, within like a two

887
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: year span. These guys were top twenty picks. You couldn't

888
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: make the shit up. So I would say Gruden. I

889
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 1: would put Gruden the ironic, ironic lee that they both

890
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 1: ended up on The Raiders, Gruden and Josh McDaniels, because listen,

891
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: I think most people thought Tom Sulu was gonna be

892
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: bad now sometimes Listen, Let's face it, a lot of

893
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: people thought after that press conference that Nick Sirianni, like God,

894
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: what did he do to con these guys? Nix yearr

895
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 1: Eyes pretty good, good leader of men. People like him,

896
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: gets along with Howie, can run an operation, can hire

897
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:18,760
Speaker 1: assistant coaches. So you could argue that Gruden and Josh McDaniels,

898
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: but Josh Overgruden because I do think Gruden had people

899
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: that did like him as players. You could argue Josh

900
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: as the all time con man because I'd say most

901
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: people thought like that. That's pretty good higher I think

902
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,959
Speaker 1: it's gonna work. They can't stand. I saw a clip

903
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: today on bleacher Report. I don't know what game he

904
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: would have been at. It wouldn't have been the Vegas Aces.

905
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: Maybe he went to a UNLV basketball game. But Davante

906
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: was at a basketball game and a referee came up

907
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 1: to him. I'm pretty sure this was yesterday, and the

908
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: referee said he was just at the game, congrats on

909
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: the win, and then DeVante starts talking to him, and

910
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: Davante looks at him and he goes, it's gonna be

911
00:50:55,600 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: a lot better now. Davante and Max Crosby despised Josh McDaniels.

912
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: It's one thing, Listen, whenever you work for someone, you're

913
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: gonna have your days where you're mad Adham, where he's

914
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: driving you nuts where you'd love to just say fu.

915
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:17,280
Speaker 1: It's we're all human beings. Leadership is not always kind.

916
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: Sometimes to be the boss, you gotta be an a hole.

917
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: It's another thing to have these guys, I mean, cheer

918
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: you out the door, cheer you out the door. So

919
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:32,240
Speaker 1: maybe Josh McDaniels is an all time con man, longtime listener,

920
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: and can't confirm you're still the best. I like this guy.

921
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: Here's my question, What the bleep is going on in Nashville? Sneaky.

922
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 1: We have the most injuries in the league since twenty twenty,

923
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: twice breaking the record for players used in a season. Ever.

924
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 1: Since the single worst trade in NFL history, sending AJ

925
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: to Philly for a first and a third, things have

926
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: been downhill. The only thing I have hope in is

927
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 1: Mike Rabel, but his decision to draft a tackle eleven

928
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: overall but play at guard despite our awful tackles has

929
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: me questioning even him. Can you make sense of it? Well?

930
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: I think most people viewed Skeronsky as one of the

931
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 1: better offensive linemen in the draft, So you just drafted

932
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: the best offensive lineman on your board. And I also

933
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: think most people would say relative to drafts. You know,

934
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: you weren't getting Lane Johnson or Trent Williams or something here.

935
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: A lot of people thought he was more suited to

936
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: play guard. So this gets back to my defense of

937
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: the Lions. Trading back and getting this draft was bad.

938
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: Most people viewed like Skronsky in a decent draft should

939
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: be like picked twenty six. But this draft was not

940
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: very good. And if it wouldn't have been for three

941
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: quarterbacks pushing players down, you would have been drafting second

942
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: round picks at pick eleven. So I don't have a

943
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: huge problem with it. I think he's a guard now.

944
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,720
Speaker 1: I'd have to really text around text of my buddies,

945
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,280
Speaker 1: some college directors. But I think a lot of people

946
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: view him. I'm pretty sure memory serves man correct doesn't

947
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: have shorter arms. I mean, obviously played a lot of

948
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: tackle at Northwestern. It's gonna be a rough year. I

949
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: think you just got to hope of Rabel's good. And

950
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: when it comes to the injuries, I always say this,

951
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: I think it's a little random. I really do. The

952
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,240
Speaker 1: Eagles went through a stretch, everyone on the team was injured.

953
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 1: The forty nine Ers went on a stretch. Everyone was injured,

954
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: what did both those teams do, fired all their doctors,

955
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 1: their trainers, Like, I don't know. I think it's an

956
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 1: easy one. It's easy to see when you watch a

957
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 1: team player, like God, this offense is terrible. This offensive

958
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 1: coordinator needs to go. I don't think you can necessarily

959
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: do that with trainers and doctors. I'm not saying there

960
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: aren't some that are better than others, but I do

961
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: think there's a level of randomness with this stuff. Some

962
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: guys just get injured more than others, right, I mean,

963
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter has already been hurt multiple times this season.

964
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: Is he injury prone or is just football guys get injured?

965
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. Like Traylon Burks gets carted off the field,

966
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: is he injury prone or did he just fall in

967
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: his fucking head at the end of the game and

968
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: the field's hard because it's cold outside. I have a

969
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: hard time with that one. Scronsky, I just think he's

970
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 1: probably a guard. I think that's how a lot of

971
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: people viewed him. Could be wrong, but I think with

972
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 1: the injuries, I think sometimes just crappy luck. Appreciate everyone listening.

973
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 1: Keep firing in those dms at John Middleoffe the Instagram

974
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: and we will talk soon. The volume