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Speaker 1: Hello, my name.

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Speaker 2: How are you, Hey, Caitlin, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm not as good as you are because I'm not

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Speaker 1: in London, England about to watch, comment, take partake in,

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Speaker 1: and generally immerse myself in the Wimbledon Championships for the

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Speaker 1: next two weeks. And you are.

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Speaker 2: I am fully immersed. I am so immersed that there

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Speaker 2: are bubbles around me everywhere. Yeah, I am really literally

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Speaker 2: I've obviously been in some bubbles, but the Wimbledon bubble

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Speaker 2: really takes the cake. You will get into it a

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Speaker 2: little bit as the pod goes on, just explaining how

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Speaker 2: it works and what's going on and who's in it,

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Speaker 2: and it's quite the experience, especially for somebody like me

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Speaker 2: who's been here for g I played in like twenty

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Speaker 2: plus Wimbledon Championships and always stayed in the village, and

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Speaker 2: now with this, it's a new experience for everybody.

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Speaker 1: So you're saying, even if I were there, I could

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Speaker 1: because we would have to be in the bubble, which

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no getting around this. There's no dog and foxes,

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Speaker 2: there's no you know, pub visits or you know, Bailey

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Speaker 2: mean literally everyone's like, what do you mean? Everyone like Roger, Roger,

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Speaker 2: in this bubble. I bumped into him in the bottom

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Speaker 2: of the stairways and it's like, mate, it must be

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Speaker 2: so hard for you knowing that you live five minutes

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Speaker 1: Well as brutal as that is, especially for people who

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Speaker 1: players who live in the village. Boris Becker lives in

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Speaker 1: Wimbledon Village. You're saying, Andy Murray, you know, I get

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Speaker 1: why if you are a tennis champion living not only

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Speaker 1: will say, the excitement, at least from what I've been

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Speaker 1: for this year's Wimbledon is reaching a fever pitch, partly

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Speaker 1: because they didn't play one last year. They had every

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Speaker 1: other Grand Slam, but Wimbledon in some way, shape or

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Speaker 1: you know, there really isn't anything as iconic. I'm in

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Speaker 1: This is just what I dress in most days. I

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Speaker 1: be more exciting. I've said before that rolling Garis is

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Speaker 1: my Christmas, but I fully acknowledged that for almost everyone else,

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Speaker 1: even if it's not your most favorite tournament. So let's

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Speaker 1: get into it. Shall we talk about what's to be expected,

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Speaker 1: because I have some headlines that are dominating my mind

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, for me, I mean, to be quite

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Speaker 2: So so for the players that they're all having to

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Speaker 2: So it's kind of like it's like a junior tournament,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think one thing that bears mentioning

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Speaker 2: You know, and for example, I can't work for ESPN

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Speaker 2: So until Sam's out of the tournament, I am in

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Speaker 1: That's so interesting because usually you do double duty at

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Speaker 1: The one draw that everybody I know who is a

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Speaker 1: Venus Williams creating a Vultron superpowered mixed doubles team. Everyone's

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Speaker 2: Well, Nick did put out on Twitter that he was

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Speaker 2: looking for a mixed doubles partner, so this is clearly

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Speaker 2: It's probably the most talked about mixed doubles partnership since

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Speaker 2: So it's going to be a blast. I can't wait

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Speaker 2: to see them play together. And Venus is into it.

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Speaker 1: Venus is super into I mean, let's yeah, to your point,

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Speaker 1: Venus has won one, two, three, four, five, six Wimbledon

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Speaker 1: She's wanted at the Australian, at the French, she's missing

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Speaker 1: So maybe we will get Nick and Venus at multiple times.

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Speaker 1: I mean, people have talked about how Nick Curios, who

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Speaker 2: But they're not expecting great weather on Monday. But you know,

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Speaker 2: we'll see how it goes. I mean, I'm super psyched

431
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Speaker 2: in general for the tournament to begin.

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Speaker 1: I could of be more excited. I mean, I think

433
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Speaker 1: for me, it's just all about matchups. There's so many,

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Speaker 1: so many, so many good matchups in the first, you know,

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Speaker 1: a couple My first couple of days of a tournament

436
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Speaker 1: is always my favorite part because you can kind of

437
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Speaker 1: bounce around. I mean, ideally you're there so you can

438
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Speaker 1: kind of go from court to court. But on my

439
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Speaker 1: on my ESPN Plus, I will have about ten screens

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Speaker 1: open at every given time, just kind of checking on

441
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Speaker 1: different matches because the matchups are always so like sort

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Speaker 1: of delicious and contrasts and styles and contrasts and you know,

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Speaker 1: strategy and body size. You know, it's really fun to

444
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Speaker 1: watch somebody like Barty or sable Anka, who had a

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Speaker 1: couple of match ups on clay this year, you know,

446
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Speaker 1: and it's just like, oh, one's you know, eighteen feet

447
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Speaker 1: tall and the other one's average height. But they're slicing

448
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Speaker 1: and dcing and power and finance and it's great. So

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Speaker 1: I'm super super prompt. Hard to predict a winner on

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Speaker 1: the women's side. Obviously, would be great to see Serena

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Speaker 1: get twenty four. Anybody who you feel confident even saying

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Speaker 1: you expect to see in the final. You've already mentioned

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Speaker 1: Andie Kerber as somebody who's tough to get through. But

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Speaker 1: I don't want to put you on the spot. But

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Speaker 1: you know, making a prediction on the women's side is

456
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Speaker 1: so tough, which I mean, I like the women's game

457
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Speaker 1: better because we're not already minting a champion, you know.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, as I said, the women's top half

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Speaker 2: of the drawers just friggin got so many players in

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Speaker 2: there that you could say if they got to the final,

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Speaker 2: you wouldn't be surprised. Serena Kerber, you know, ash Barty Konta,

462
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Speaker 2: who made the Semisia a number of years ago, and

463
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Speaker 2: of course is playing great. And when Joe Konta, I

464
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Speaker 2: mean she's going to have the support obviously of the

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Speaker 2: English crowd and all the Brits will be behind her

466
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Speaker 2: and in a big way. And you know when she's

467
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Speaker 2: seen them, when she's serving big and she's playing well.

468
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Speaker 2: We were actually practicing next to her today. She just

469
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Speaker 2: got that super confidence about her. So she's a confidence player.

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Speaker 2: Obviously coming in here winning a tournament means she's confident

471
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Speaker 2: and she can play well with the crowd behind her.

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Speaker 2: She really enjoys that, which is saying something. But so

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Speaker 2: for the British that definitely is somebody that they'll be behind.

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Speaker 2: The other half of the drawer we haven't even really

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Speaker 2: touched upon, but you know, you think about Murga Rutha,

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Speaker 2: who's of course one Wimbledon before, a bit of an unknown.

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Speaker 2: She has the possibility of playing on gibur who won

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Speaker 2: a lead up tournament. I mean, it's just like so

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Speaker 2: many right you talk about Saberlenka, who hasn't had a

480
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Speaker 2: great never really played well at the Slams, You know,

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Speaker 2: what can she do? Stakari is in that section of

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Speaker 2: the draw.

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Speaker 1: Ali risk the grass court specialist, which is very rare

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Speaker 1: to say for both a woman and an American, but

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Speaker 1: Ali risk tends to have good results. Kaya can that

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Speaker 1: be who's always sort of dangerous? Petro Knveteva, who loves

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Speaker 1: grass and you know, played a not too bad couple

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Speaker 1: of warm up tournaments coming into this either you know,

489
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Speaker 1: you just kind of look left or right and somebody's

490
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Speaker 1: like you. You know, you said it. You wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: surprised to see them being able to make it to

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Speaker 1: the finals. But the there's a lot of dangerous lurkers

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Speaker 1: in here, right, Like Sloan Stevens. Is she going to

494
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Speaker 1: play great tennis or not? She plays Petrick Kviteva in

495
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Speaker 1: the first round, so she's got she's got to come

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Speaker 1: out firing. And you know with Sloan she chances are

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Speaker 1: she can like Madison Keys, same thing on grass. She

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Speaker 1: should be a no brainer. She plays a brit qualifier.

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Speaker 1: Katie's one in the first round. You know, you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be shocked if if he's made it, at least a

501
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Speaker 1: couple of rounds were lost in the first round. You know,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Collins saty So you know, Kennon, we haven't talked

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Speaker 1: about Kennon or Egish Fiantec, Like, there's just so many

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Speaker 1: players who've won Slams who could make it happen. And

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Speaker 1: then you're kind of like, ah, you know, who's it

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Speaker 1: going to be, who's going to step up?

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Speaker 2: And one player we haven't even mentioned who I think

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Speaker 2: will have the toughest match if police sorry, if keys

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Speaker 2: get sorry on it's so many plays. Covitova gets through

510
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Speaker 2: to play jess Guler, and Jessica Gooler is my outsider

511
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Speaker 2: to do really well here because she's going to love

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Speaker 2: the courts here. She's like five and zero against Plis Kober,

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Speaker 2: who's up that section of the drawer. If Flishkober can

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Speaker 2: even get through a couple of matches, hasn't had a

515
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Speaker 2: great lead up, and Ali Risk is in her section

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Speaker 2: and she hates playing Ali Risk. So you know, Jesspa

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Speaker 2: Gooler has a tough one against Caroline Garcia, former top

518
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Speaker 2: ten player. So as we said, look, you could sort

519
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Speaker 2: of throw you know, all the names of women in

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Speaker 2: a bag, pull out five of them, be like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: could one of them win the Wimbledon title, and be

522
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Speaker 2: like yeah, they could actually. So I'm just so looking

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Speaker 2: forward to who's going to manage these conditions, as I said,

524
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Speaker 2: of long days getting in the bus, dealing with the bubble,

525
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Speaker 2: the stresses of you know, being around tennis players all day,

526
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Speaker 2: who's hiding in their rooms, who's out socializing, who's sort

527
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Speaker 2: of taking advantage of this moment? And then obviously the

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Speaker 2: injuries are going to you know, we'll see help everyone

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Speaker 2: reacts on body.

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Speaker 1: Especially ungrass. Everybody's you know, slipping inside and left and right,

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Speaker 1: you know, as we saw in a lot of these

532
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Speaker 1: you know, in Halla and MAJORCA. You know, everybody takes

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Speaker 1: tumbles on grass. It's not out of the ordinary, so

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you can always have some freak injuries.

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Speaker 1: One person I want to hear hourly, if not by

536
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Speaker 1: hourly updates about and you've already fulfilled my wishes for

537
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Speaker 1: today anyway, is Ben wi Pere. What's he going to

538
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Speaker 1: be up to? Is he going to be hitting tweeners?

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Speaker 1: Is he at the bar? Is he you know, smoking hookah?

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Speaker 1: Who knows what he's doing? But I want to know

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Speaker 1: whatever that is, and I want and expect you to

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Speaker 1: tell me.

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Speaker 2: Well, Ben Wit, I can assure you we'll be doing

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Speaker 2: a couple of things that you mentioned he will be

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Speaker 2: hitting twenas, he will be diving, He will be he

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Speaker 2: might be as annoyed at the umpire because I believe them.

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Speaker 2: But he's line electronic line poling at Wimbledon and it's

548
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Speaker 2: so weird to see the cameras will set up the

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Speaker 2: way they are here and we will probably see him

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Speaker 2: at the bar.

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Speaker 1: Caitlin to be there with you.

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Speaker 2: So you know, seeing Roger in the back of the

553
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Speaker 2: bar last night sort of hanging out with everybody was

554
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Speaker 2: really unique and awesome to see. And you know, this

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Speaker 2: bubble life is pretty interesting in itself. As I said,

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Speaker 2: it feels like an Olympics. I feel like we're in

557
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Speaker 2: our own little mini Olympic Games here at Wimbledon this year.

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Speaker 2: But kudos to Wimbledon. They've tried so hard to get

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Speaker 2: this right, and you know, the government here in England

560
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Speaker 2: has been really tough on them, probably the most other

561
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Speaker 2: than the Australian Open, so they're trying to do their best.

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Speaker 2: They've done a great job. The hotel's fantastic and I

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Speaker 2: have to say kudos to the Park Plaza in London

564
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Speaker 2: because that's where the tournament, that's where the players are.

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Speaker 2: I'm not giving away any secrets. Everybody already knows that

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Speaker 2: there's press outside the hotel trying to take photos, but

567
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Speaker 2: that the staff here has been absolutely amazing, and the

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Speaker 2: most popular thing at the hotel is the what we

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Speaker 2: call in Australia and what we call here in England

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Speaker 2: the lolli jar area or the candy bar area. So

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Speaker 2: very much enjoying that as a snack, and and there's

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Speaker 2: a there's gelato for the players. There's a golf simulator,

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Speaker 2: which is also the funnest thing here, and every player

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Speaker 2: is on that. Hopefully we won't have any injuries because

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Speaker 2: of the golf simulator, but other than that it's great.

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Speaker 1: Well that's I mean, that's how you didn't mention Kentish

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Speaker 1: strawberries are there Kentish to be had.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen any strawberries at the hotel, but there

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Speaker 2: are many at the courts. I did see Sabalanca walking

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Speaker 2: away with six punnets of strawberries, and I've decided it.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to call her berry all week long. So

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Speaker 2: that's her name, and if she makes the second week,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to call I'm going to call her Strawbs.

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Speaker 2: And that's the that's the deal because she looked like

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Speaker 2: she was literally taking them to go and sell them

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Speaker 2: on the street.

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Speaker 1: So I want to push you to do better with

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Speaker 1: those nicknames. So the next time we check in, why

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Speaker 1: don't you give it a think and just come up

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Speaker 1: with something that I feel befits your your amazing brand,

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Speaker 1: because I think those are only C minus as if

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Speaker 1: we're honest with each other, I think the nickname game

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Speaker 1: could improve, And as an Australian, I think you owe

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Speaker 1: to yourself to to aim higher. I mean, Darren k

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Speaker 1: Hill would come up with better nicknames than that.

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Speaker 2: Barry Bebey Vibe Bay.

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Speaker 1: Keep work shopping it, Okay, jobs a Rianca jobs are

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Speaker 1: Ranka has actually has some getting there. That's a bee,

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Speaker 1: that's a strong bee.

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Speaker 2: You just have to give me a second mind, all right, man, Well.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I appreciate that you're going there. Uh you know,

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Speaker 1: they're they're already better than Brad Gilbert's. But I feel

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Speaker 1: like you could just keep work shopping them while we're

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Speaker 1: doing some very light in this case, Dick kicks, I

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Speaker 1: do think it bears mentioning just two other smaller things

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Speaker 1: because this really is our wind win. In preview episode,

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Speaker 1: it's not exhausted, but obviously it's a check in and

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Speaker 1: it's really nice hearing behind the scenes. Our Frank Craig

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Speaker 1: Shapiro give you a lot of love the other day

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Speaker 1: for doing such a wonderful Instagram behind the scenes tour,

611
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Speaker 1: because you know this place like the back of your hand,

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Speaker 1: both from playing, commentating, coaching, all the things, and it

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Speaker 1: really is the cathedral of tennis. It's really a special place.

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Speaker 1: So the more we can sort of illuminate people on

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Speaker 1: what it's like to be there and play there and

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Speaker 1: be behind the scenes there because it's so unique, is

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Speaker 1: just such a service. Light dick kicks are in order,

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Speaker 1: I think for my very very favorite German Man, Boris Becker, who,

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Speaker 1: in addition to having a great head of hair and

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Speaker 1: a very fun sense of humor, was really tone deaf

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Speaker 1: in his Naomi Osaka criticism he's going to be taking

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Speaker 1: the BBC booth for the nineteenth year in a row.

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Speaker 1: I felt like he was a little bit off, especially

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Speaker 1: because he did not have any sort of critique for

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Speaker 1: Roger Fetter. When Roger Feederer pulled out of the tournament

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Speaker 1: to preserve his body last time around with Roland Garis,

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Speaker 1: he was quoted among many, many, many news outlets New

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Speaker 1: York Times, BBC, ESPN, etc. Sort of saying like Namiosaka

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Speaker 1: can handle the pressure of a racial protest, which he

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Speaker 1: gave her credit for, but then she can't handle the press.

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Speaker 1: And it's sort of like, I don't want to we

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Speaker 1: re sort of interrogate that, but I feel like bros

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Speaker 1: Becker could have done better. And then interesting news out

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Speaker 1: of this whole PTPA Novak, Djokovic and Vashek prosposal led

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Speaker 1: not union, union of the men and the ATP trading

636
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Speaker 1: essentially in a pissing match. Not clear exactly what they're

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Speaker 1: arguing about, because the PTPA still hasn't really come out

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Speaker 1: with any specifics, although they did come out with a

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Speaker 1: very interesting video, and the news has been revealed that

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Speaker 1: they have a number of very interesting folks backing them,

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Speaker 1: including the billionaire New York City hedge fund guy Bill Ackman,

642
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Speaker 1: who's very familiar to those of us who live in

643
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Speaker 1: New York City, and one of his Internet Twitter trolls

644
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Speaker 1: he put on the advisory board. So it's sort of

645
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: like the board that comes out about the PTAPA, you

646
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Speaker 1: want to kind of be like, well, this could be

647
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Speaker 1: a good union. The players certainly need it. Love to

648
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Speaker 1: see them hooking up with the women. Maybe that's what

649
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Speaker 1: they're doing. But every time they come out with something new,

650
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Speaker 1: you're kind of like, but what you know what I mean,

651
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's being chattered about over there

652
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Speaker 1: at all, but it's just always so baffling where you're like,

653
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Speaker 1: you have, you have all this time and ability to

654
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Speaker 1: get your ducks in a row, So why isn't why

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Speaker 1: you're coming out with more impressive than this? You know,

656
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Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like it's happening, but I wonder if

657
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Speaker 1: it's the chatter is made its way to your side

658
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Speaker 1: of the pond.

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Speaker 2: Not overtly. I mean, I'll be really honest with you,

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00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 2: I think most of the players are so And this

661
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: is the problem with you know, doing something like this.

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00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 2: You have your little you have your little groups and

663
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 2: your little cliques that are sort of trying to do something.

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Speaker 2: But you know, eighty percent of everybody else is doing

665
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Speaker 2: their own thing and they don't really I don't want

666
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 2: to say they don't care. They do care, but at

667
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 2: this point at a Grand Slam, they don't care. They're

668
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 2: trying to win a Grand Slam. They're trying to do

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Speaker 2: everything they can to get their bodies in order to

670
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Speaker 2: get their practice hours in, to get their food content,

671
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Speaker 2: to like get their sleep, to get on a bus.

672
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, that's why you know, there needs

673
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: to be better representation as far as trying to get

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Speaker 2: them together, obviously the women and the men, but I

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Speaker 2: mean as far as I'm concerned, I mean, going back

676
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Speaker 2: to Boris, I mean, you know, some people all sort

677
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 2: of you know, I don't think sometimes I think sometimes

678
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Speaker 2: before you speak, you need to sit back and say,

679
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Speaker 2: you know, how is this going to look? And do

680
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 2: I know everything? Do I know every part of this

681
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 2: story with Naomi, So yeah, I think you'll probably you know,

682
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 2: obviously getting a lot of flak for it. But but

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Speaker 2: I think with the PTPA, yeah, there's there was an

684
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: opportunity to go an opportunity through the last six months

685
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Speaker 2: to really work together, particularly with the with the way

686
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 2: that the tournaments have gone with you know, the bubble

687
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: and everyone's around, and I just think they went so

688
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 2: one way at the start of the year that they've

689
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Speaker 2: just got so much opposition in some regard regards from

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Speaker 2: the ATP and not giving them any time whatsoever. I

691
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 2: mean it, it's like a pissing content. It's a pissing

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Speaker 2: contest in the ATP. Forget about the WTA trying to

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Speaker 2: even get equality with this players association. They're having problems

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Speaker 2: with their own ATP. They're having problems with their own association.

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Speaker 2: So I think until they can get that all under

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Speaker 2: to order, and quite frankly, I don't know if this

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Speaker 2: is the time to do it or not. With COVID,

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Speaker 2: that's you know, that's smarter people than me to try

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Speaker 2: and figure out. Caitlin.

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Speaker 1: I mean, your comments sound pretty smart to me, and

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00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: they don't sound wrong. They sound like, yeah, this on

702
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: paper is a really great idea. And obviously having a

703
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: really strong, you know, ability to advocate and make sure

704
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: the players are being treated well and there's some parody

705
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: is great, but it's just sort of like, oh man,

706
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: every time this comes out there, it's sort of like

707
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: clown town again, and you just want to be like, hey, guys,

708
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: you know, you don't a have to do this now

709
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: because everyone else is trying to figure out, you know,

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Speaker 1: how to get themselves in the best mental state about preparing.

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Speaker 1: But also there's all sorts of interesting seismic things that

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Speaker 1: are happening at the top of the sport with people,

713
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: smart people trying to figure out how to make sure

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Speaker 1: that tennis isn't blowing any opportunities, and the fact that

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Speaker 1: it's fractured and the fact that you know, it's a

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Speaker 1: bunch of little fiefdoms that it can beete with each

717
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: other is already part of the problem. So making a

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Speaker 1: new one, if you're going to do that, make sure

719
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Speaker 1: it kind of scoops up a lot of people along

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Speaker 1: with you. And they really haven't done that. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: I just had a bore mentioning because now from now

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Speaker 1: on we're going to be checking in. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: I want updates about curios and venus, I want updates

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Speaker 1: about my boyfriend benoil Pere. I really would like to

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00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: see him using that beard oil again. I feel like

726
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: the beard has gotten a little unruly. So if you

727
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: can pass out along, please let me know. You know,

728
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: does he have a clothing sponsor? Does he want a

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00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: clothing sponsor. I've got some people on the hook who

730
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: want to give one to him, so you know, I

731
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Speaker 1: have his email, but I'm just saying, if you know,

732
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Speaker 1: run into him at the bar, pass that along you're

733
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Speaker 1: going to be coaching Sam. She's got a winnable first round,

734
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Speaker 1: but an interesting first round against two is at Shelby Rogers.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's going to be so much talk about

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Speaker 1: about the tournament, so I just wanted to get in

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Speaker 1: a few other things before we got started. But now

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Speaker 1: that it's happening, you know it's going to be exciting days.

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Speaker 2: Listen. I think the most important thing in this whole

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Speaker 2: discussion is that we will be hitting tennis balls here

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Speaker 2: at Wimbledon for the first time in a long time,

742
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Speaker 2: and the Wimbledon courts look absolutely amazing. They're the best

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Speaker 2: I've seen them in a long time. I don't know

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00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 2: what it is. I don't know what they did to

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Speaker 2: the grass, the lust.

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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe having a tournament there last year made

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Speaker 1: them have two years a growth.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know. I just feel like the grass

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Speaker 2: this year is even better than I think it's as

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Speaker 2: good as it was twenty years ago. I have not

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Speaker 2: loved the grass over the last like ten fifteen years.

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Speaker 2: I mean, even though it's the best grass court in

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Speaker 2: the world, there's something about it this year that just

754
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 2: feels even better. And so I expect players that are

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00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 2: coming into the net and being aggressive will do really

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00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 2: well at this tournament. That does certainly suit someone like Roger.

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00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 2: It just can he get through, you know, best of

758
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 2: five Physically, he's not getting any younger, but you know,

759
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 2: just to see him and Serena just kind of watson

760
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: around the hotel, you know, hanging out with the with

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Speaker 2: the with the kids. It's just it's a unique experience

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00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: in itself. So Caitlin, I'm just excited obviously to be here.

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Speaker 2: If anyone follows me on Instagram, they know my love

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Speaker 2: for this place is like endless. There's nothing I don't

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Speaker 2: love about it, from the flowers that line the courts,

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Speaker 2: to the wooden benches, to the smell of the grass,

767
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 2: even the rain from time to time. It's just there's

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Speaker 2: no tournament like it in the world. And you know,

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Speaker 2: it's like picking a favorite child, which is your favorite,

770
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Speaker 2: But for me, it will always be Wimbledon. So let's

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Speaker 2: hope it's a great couple of weeks and we get

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Speaker 2: some amazing stories out of it, and I'm sure we will,

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Speaker 2: including Nick Curios and Venus Williams.

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Speaker 1: Plain me, I can't I have nothing to add other

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Speaker 1: than I'll see you soon.

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00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 2: I'll see you soon, my friend.

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Speaker 1: And that's it for this episode of the Racket Magazine podcast.

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