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Speaker 1: Native Lampard is a production of iHeart Radio and partnership

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Speaker 1: with Reason Choice Media.

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Speaker 2: Welcome home, y'all.

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Speaker 1: This is episode one O eight. This is a Native

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Speaker 1: lamp Pop where we give you all of our perspectives

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Speaker 1: whether you want them or not, on everything political, and

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Speaker 1: we throw some culture in there every now and again.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host for today, Uh Andrew Gillum, and I'm

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Speaker 1: joined by the very special.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so sellers, very special joining Bacari.

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Speaker 1: Mister Special also known as Beehive Bay Beyonce Uh is

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Speaker 1: the incomparable Tiffany Cross, Miss Cross and of course Miss

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Speaker 1: Angela Ry.

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Speaker 2: What's up, y'all?

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Speaker 3: I like how you introduced the guys this time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't have to change it up a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so much, so much for ladies first, Yeah, it's

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Speaker 4: for either of you today since we are work together everybody.

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Speaker 3: I love when we do the show together in person.

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Speaker 3: They have a completely different feel.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's much warmer. So tell me y'all. I hope

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Speaker 1: y'all got filled up this last week, you know, on

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Speaker 1: some thankfulness, some gratitude and some good.

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Speaker 2: Food with that.

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Speaker 1: What are we talking about today? What are we getting

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Speaker 1: into a lot? Is in the news, y'all.

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 1: But car are you first?

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Speaker 5: I had an opportunity this week during my other job

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Speaker 5: to talk about Pete Heskett than these boat strikes.

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Speaker 2: I was on with.

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Speaker 5: Katie Miller, even Miller's other half, h and so it

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Speaker 5: was a it was a fascinating conversation. Hopefully we can

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Speaker 5: dig into that a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thoughts about that, because that's all it that that

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Speaker 1: interview or the topic.

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Speaker 3: I saw the whole show, all of it. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 3: what I want to talk about every week. I really

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Speaker 3: appreciate when our viewers take the time to get on

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Speaker 3: video and ask us questions. So again this week, I

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Speaker 3: yielded my time because I want to make sure that

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Speaker 3: we are able to hear from all of our viewers.

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Speaker 3: And I know a few questions were directed to us.

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Speaker 3: I want to make sure we get to all of those.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I love it, Angelou Roberts you.

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Speaker 4: We will be joined by Ilhan Omar, who is the

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Speaker 4: illustrious congresswoman for missis almost in Mississippi, but she.

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Speaker 6: Would join Benny Gordon Thompson. I would love it too.

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Speaker 4: But she is in Minnesota's fifth congressional district and as

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Speaker 4: you all know, just this week, Donald Trump had the

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Speaker 4: nerve to call her garbage and also say some very

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Speaker 4: pejorative things about derogatory things also about the Somali Americans

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Speaker 4: in her district and in Minnesota rit Lard. So we're

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Speaker 4: going to talk to her about that as well as

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Speaker 4: Ice Ice Plant ICE's plans to raid Minnesota under the

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Speaker 4: guise of whatever they think is happening with Somali and

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Speaker 4: fraud that this, you know, right wing mainstream media continues

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Speaker 4: to perpetuate.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I can't wait to dig into that, especially

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Speaker 1: when you consider the fraud issue and the national landscape

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Speaker 1: around fraud. Nonetheless, y'all, we got a lot to get to,

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Speaker 1: so let's get into it.

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Speaker 7: Peace Family, Welcome home. Shout out to Nick, Shout out

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Speaker 7: to Lolo Bakari. I love the addition. I love the

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Speaker 7: interaction that you have together. I think it's super dope.

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Speaker 7: I love that you had my Attorney General Andrea Campbell on.

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Speaker 7: You definitely should have my mayor, Mayor Michelle Woo on.

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Speaker 7: I think that'll be really dope. She would have a

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Speaker 7: lot of things to say. She is one of the

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Speaker 7: fighters against Trump that I love and I'm proud of,

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Speaker 7: But I guess my question is it's relating to a

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Speaker 7: lot of U all's banter I'll use for lack of

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Speaker 7: better terms, but just going back and forth, right and

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Speaker 7: it what I'm feeling today is a lot of friends

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Speaker 7: that I have don't so much share, you know, the

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Speaker 7: passion and the activism and the things that are tangible

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Speaker 7: to me that we all should be doing right. And

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Speaker 7: I think there's an approach that may be a little passive,

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Speaker 7: and I judge that, so I'm working on that. I

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Speaker 7: guess my question is how do you all deal with

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Speaker 7: friends in your individual lives that either have opposing political

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Speaker 7: views or they're not engaged at all and they're like, oh,

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Speaker 7: do all that political shit? Sorry for swearing, but y'all

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Speaker 7: swear so but anyway, sorry, but how do you deal

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Speaker 7: with that? Let me know I'm dying and welcome home.

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Speaker 2: I love that. I love that.

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Speaker 3: And Nick Desert of viewers know Nick and Lo Lo

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Speaker 3: and the Projection staff here, niggas our producer and Lo

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Speaker 3: Lo is our everything. I don't even know what, but

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Speaker 3: when he was giving a shout out, that's what he

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Speaker 6: Barkley.

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Speaker 5: I think he asked a question that a lot of

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Speaker 5: people are asking, particularly over the holidays, and as as

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Speaker 5: divisive as this country has become, even in our own families,

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Speaker 5: you have I was watching the Balloon Pop you watch those,

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Speaker 5: like the data shows like that. I love them to

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Speaker 5: be an utter comedy.

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Speaker 8: I love it.

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Speaker 5: And so there was one guy who was like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: she said. The young lady asked him who did you

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Speaker 5: vote for in twenty twenty four?

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Speaker 2: I saw that and.

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Speaker 5: He was like, oh, I don't vote. I don't vote,

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Speaker 5: And it's not because you just don't know. And she

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Speaker 5: went through her list of accomplishments and educational achievements and

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Speaker 5: she was like, I understand the process, and you were

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Speaker 5: born into this, so you need to play a part.

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Speaker 5: And he was like, nah, you just don't understand if

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Speaker 5: you think that you can impact with your vote what

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Speaker 5: happens in the federal system. And it just had me

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Speaker 5: thinking that there are a lot of people who either

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Speaker 5: how do you engage those people? And for me, I

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Speaker 5: found that the people that I talk about the most

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Speaker 5: with those type of folk are because he actually brought

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Speaker 5: it up, you know, Mayor Will Brandon Scott. I think

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Speaker 5: about Frank Scott, I think about Andre Dickens, I think.

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Speaker 6: About vy Lyles Randall.

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Speaker 2: Randall Wolfing.

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Speaker 5: I'm thinking about all those mayors that are on the

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Speaker 5: front lines doing the good things that don't necessarily carry

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Speaker 5: a partisan like backpack, and I utilize them and talk

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Speaker 5: about the good work that they're doing in our local

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Speaker 5: communities and on the front lines fighting against fascism, like

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Speaker 5: she is in Boston, like Brandon is in Chicago. Because

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Speaker 5: that's where I start the conversation with those folks who

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Speaker 5: be like, well, how you feel about abortion, and then

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Speaker 5: the conversation devolves. I think if you start with these

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Speaker 5: folk who are on the front lines fighting for those

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Speaker 5: tangible things we believe in but also make our lives

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Speaker 5: better day in and day out, that's kind of where

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Speaker 5: I start.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Can I say real quick about Popabloo please?

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Speaker 6: I do not like it. I don't find it like

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Speaker 6: I don't laugh at that show. It's so sad to me.

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Speaker 3: And that exchanged I think crystallizes why because I was wondering,

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Speaker 3: how is this even showing up in my feed?

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Speaker 6: Because Bacuri liked it.

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Speaker 2: I think there is something everywhere.

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Speaker 6: But that's the point. It's not to me.

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Speaker 3: It is it does not represent black lover people finding

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Speaker 3: love and the fact that they're staying proposal. That is

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Speaker 3: one out of a thousand.

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Speaker 6: That's the only one I know of. It might be

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Speaker 6: more than that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but I'm making is it's not funny

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Speaker 3: to me to see black people stand there and insult

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Speaker 3: each other like you you know.

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Speaker 6: The playground too, I'm good. I don't like that one.

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Speaker 6: I don't like any humor.

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Speaker 3: I'm like the butt of the joke and it's a

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Speaker 3: joking people, I got uplift that, you know, like I'm

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I just don't like that, And I

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Speaker 3: don't think it's representative of what our love for each

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Speaker 3: even that, I think is a perfect example. Because once

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Speaker 3: she said that, the comments were so awful and they

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Speaker 3: nobody was supporting her position of yes, this guy should

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Speaker 3: be doing something, and for people who don't know, they ask,

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Speaker 3: is he someone that's your type? And it's like her

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Speaker 3: it's just the most awful.

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Speaker 2: Do you see the size? Do you see the size

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Speaker 2: of my head? Elementary school? It was it was my ears.

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Speaker 6: I don't like it.

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Speaker 1: I remember we titled this show possible.

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Speaker 6: You say I'm shallow.

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Speaker 3: I think y'all honest, I'm just gonna say, I think

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Speaker 3: y'all are all beautiful.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna because you're normally the terrorist on this I'm

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Speaker 6: You just say. I'm gonna pop your blow and get.

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Speaker 4: Back onto this type of care unintended better than a joke.

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Speaker 4: But I love you still, Yes, So I just I

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Speaker 4: think that it's so important for us to back people

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Speaker 4: out of politics into direct needs. And it's a lot

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Speaker 6: There are so many people who.

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Speaker 4: Have felt like the process hasn't served them, and even

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Speaker 4: when they see themselves reflected, oftentimes they don't see their

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Speaker 4: but they don't necessarily see people doing the right things.

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Speaker 6: That is not the truth across the board.

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Speaker 4: But politics gets naturally painted with the very broad brush

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Speaker 4: because people have so many needs being so I regularly

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Speaker 4: will say to somebody who says I don't do politics,

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Speaker 4: I will go in an audience and say, how many

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Speaker 4: of you believe that people want or deserve clean drinking water?

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Speaker 4: How many of you believe that people deserve to be fed?

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Speaker 6: How many of you like? I'll do that because.

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Speaker 4: People don't know how much those politics impact those basic

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Speaker 4: where we agree, and then you can build out to

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Speaker 4: see where the disagreements begin to pop up.

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Speaker 6: I think that's the only way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but those are audiences. It's like, what about your friend?

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Speaker 6: I do that with my friends.

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Speaker 3: But do you have friends who are like, I'm not

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Speaker 2: Family members for sure, Kristyn. I was in the barber

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Speaker 2: shop this morning and they were talking about.

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Speaker 1: You try not centering yourself.

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Speaker 6: Politics. They said, they don't do they.

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Speaker 2: Don't care about it.

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Speaker 1: Not like that I find and I wish that we

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Speaker 1: could all do a better job at this is that

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Speaker 1: most times when people say man, they don't work, they

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Speaker 1: don't do nothing, that sort of thing. It's it's almost

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Speaker 1: always beginning with the belief that one they're not there

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Speaker 1: to serve them. Two they're all corrupting out for themselves

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Speaker 1: and they're on the take. And if they ever do

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Speaker 1: anything for you, they only did that because of what

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Speaker 1: they got on the other side of it, right, They

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Speaker 4: But my point is, I will support the candidates is

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Speaker 5: I appreciate Andrew's view and the optimism about elected officials.

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Speaker 2: You make tangibly may look futile.

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Speaker 5: However, those efforts allow you to do things and chip

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Speaker 5: around the edges to have some successes.

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Speaker 2: You're right. I think that both.

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Speaker 5: I think that we're I think that neither one of

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Speaker 5: the things that we're saying have to be mutually exclusive.

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Speaker 1: No, they're not wrong. I agree, and I agree with you,

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Speaker 1: Amary Sports. I'll take one less example what I was

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Speaker 1: mayor and with shape the next. I think this is

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Speaker 1: a good citis conversation for the community. But but there

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Speaker 1: was our request for proposal coming through for who was

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Speaker 1: going to bid on managing this these retirement funds. So

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Speaker 1: these are hundreds of millions of dollars largely black people's money.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, right, absolutely.

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Speaker 11: But there was a condition in the requests for proposal

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Speaker 11: that your firm had to have existed for a minimum

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Speaker 11: of twenty years to be qualified to complete the RFB.

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Speaker 1: Well, at this time, I'm thinking, well, who hadn't been

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Speaker 1: around twenty years? We've had the Great collapse and under

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Speaker 1: Obama's first year. But the transition between Bush and Obama,

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Speaker 1: a bunch of Wall Street firms bled employees. Black folks

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Speaker 1: set up firms in Chicago and in New York and

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Speaker 1: in California and other places. But they didn't have a

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Speaker 1: twenty five year history to be responsive. And so I said,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, we got to ask the question, who who

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Speaker 1: wasn't here twenty five years ago?

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Speaker 6: Why is that?

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Speaker 1: Tell me fradicially, why twenty five years is the amount

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Speaker 1: of years you have to be in a business. Why

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Speaker 1: couldn't we look at a portfolio and determine if they

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Speaker 1: are successful at investments or successful and if they're successful

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Speaker 1: over what horizon? Three years, five years, eight years, That

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Speaker 1: to me are the types of things that you would

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Speaker 1: want to look at and a request proposal. Long story short,

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Speaker 1: we change that, and guess what of the five folks

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Speaker 1: who manage the money, two now are minority whitely at

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Speaker 1: that time when we made the change, two of them

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Speaker 1: now are minority firms. And I'm talking about black and Hispanic, right,

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Speaker 1: So the again monotony, no one's gonna pay attention to

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Speaker 1: the art. What citizen is caring about RFP? Well, I

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Speaker 1: care about it because we're trying to build black wealth. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and some create tens of tens of millionaires. So yes,

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Speaker 1: the work is hard, it's treacherous, and there are some

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Speaker 1: treachers elected out there. I'm not defending it, but I

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Speaker 1: think we ought to look more oftentimes at what the

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Speaker 1: full picture looks like, and I think we'll realize that

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Speaker 1: the glass is more full than empty.

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Speaker 5: As always, I'm still aligned from my girl tiffing across.

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Speaker 5: Please send in your listener questions because that was a

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Speaker 5: great discussion. That was a great debate the lack of

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Speaker 5: a better term. We're gonna talk aout Pete Haskett in

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Speaker 5: these boat strikes and a little discussion I had with

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Speaker 5: Katie Miller on seeing it on Abby Show on the

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Speaker 5: other side.

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Speaker 2: Of this break.

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Speaker 3: We don't get enough of Akari, so by all means.

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Speaker 6: Joke, I just want to point that out. It's uplifting.

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Speaker 6: We don't get enough.

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Speaker 3: He's not the butt of the joke. I'm uplifting him.

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Speaker 12: I want to go back to something that Bakari said.

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Speaker 12: He said that those orders that were given the drug

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Speaker 12: boats in Venezuela were illegal. Can you cite those statutes?

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Speaker 6: Please?

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Speaker 5: Yes, because It's actually called the due Process Clause of

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Speaker 5: the United States of America because can you point to

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Speaker 5: one of those boats that actually had drugs on them?

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Speaker 2: Do you know that?

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Speaker 5: Do you know about the Trinidadians who were killed innocently,

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Speaker 5: who were just fishermen? Can you actually kill those fishermen

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Speaker 5: without due process? So the answer to the question is yes,

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Speaker 5: I can cite the Constitution just as God did.

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Speaker 12: If you if you go and say that those were

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Speaker 12: members of al Qaeda or Isis coming to our chores

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Speaker 12: with enough drugs or enough ammunition to kill one thousand,

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Speaker 12: one hundred thousand Americans, wouldn't you expect our commander in

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Speaker 12: chief to take action to stop that. That's what's happening here.

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Speaker 12: That is what's happened. By the way, that's what happens

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Speaker 12: in every war zone, whether you go to Afghanistan or

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Speaker 12: Ran Somalia, go there.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about it.

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Speaker 5: Give me one name of one individual that you can

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Speaker 5: compare to al Qaeda coming through that had enough fenton

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Speaker 5: all to kill all these Americans.

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Speaker 2: Can you name one that's fair, not a one, so

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Speaker 2: you have not done.

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Speaker 5: Come from Venezuela, which is like the which is like

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Speaker 5: one of the most glaring parts about the debate.

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Speaker 6: Too bad the medium place?

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Speaker 1: Are you in the Caribbean?

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Speaker 3: Eighty percent of fentanyl that comes into this country comes

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Speaker 3: from American citizens, not from undocumented immigrants at all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you you know the facts. I mean what this

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Speaker 1: is for our listeners. That was Bakari Sellers and Missus Miller,

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Speaker 1: the White King, Stephen Miller, basically the president, the shadow

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Speaker 1: president of the United States. Every every position this President's

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Speaker 1: come out with has run across Stephen Miller's desk, likely

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Speaker 1: authored by him and then signed by the President. But

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Speaker 1: early on, when this administration decided it was going to

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Speaker 1: start targeting boats in the open sea in South America

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Speaker 1: and in the Caribbean, I gave the example that you know,

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Speaker 1: say there's surveillance that political enemy of the president. A

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Speaker 1: lot of people go off the coast of Florida and

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Speaker 1: into the Caribbean. They have their own boats. Who's to

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Speaker 1: say that you might not catch a regular citizen with

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Speaker 1: no affiliation, and by as far as we know, every

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Speaker 1: one of them who has been killed so far as

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Speaker 1: a regular citizen, not traffiiced, not our citizens, but is

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Speaker 1: a is a human being who has not been caught

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Speaker 1: physically with trafficking drugs. I have not seen one, and

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Speaker 1: please correct me if I'm wrong. One press conference where

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Speaker 1: they have dredged the material up from the exon and

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Speaker 1: bought back keyloads of cocaine, of fentanyl, of whatever it

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Speaker 1: is that they're alleging that these folks are shipping in

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Speaker 1: the open seat. And so there is something called due process.

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Speaker 1: Of course, this is also the fourth Amendment of the Constitution.

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Speaker 1: But what we have here is a president or a

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Speaker 1: defense secretary who has decided to be the judge no,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, the accuser.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, uh, the investigator, the attorney who then tries them,

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Speaker 9: the state attorney or the US attorney, and then the judge,

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Speaker 9: the jury, and the executioner.

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Speaker 1: All and one fell sw Yeah. Our constitution isn't set

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Speaker 1: up that way. The president doesn't get to decide that.

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Speaker 1: No one individual gets to play all those roles. And

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Speaker 1: so now we see where we are. And I'm wondering

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Speaker 1: just after the last week's reporting from the Washington Post

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Speaker 1: where it was discovered that in a September bombing on

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Speaker 1: one vessel See Vessel, that the two people who survived

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Speaker 1: after the initial bomb there or maybe the first two

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Speaker 1: initial bombs. There were two survivors who were hanging on

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Speaker 1: to debris in the water, and it is reported in

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Speaker 1: source that the Secretary of Defense, Secretary of HECSEF gave

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Speaker 1: instruction to the admiral to kill all of them. These

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Speaker 1: were survivors of the bombs who were now in the

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Speaker 1: water and given instruction to take to have their lives

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Speaker 1: taken by the US military. Y'all tell me, please help

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Speaker 1: us make sense of what we think accountability is going

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Speaker 1: to look like in this situation. We see some movement

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Speaker 1: on the hill. I'd like to be optimistic that there's

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Speaker 1: some be some accountability for these illegal actions before my

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Speaker 1: cousins and them and others find themselves in the crosshairs.

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Speaker 4: I think what we should also acknowledge is that accountability

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Speaker 4: is not likely to come from the United States. That

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Speaker 4: one of the people who were was killed in one

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Speaker 4: of the strikes that now have killed over eighty people

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Speaker 4: in Central and South America is a man named Alejandro

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Speaker 4: Carnza Medina, and they filed a complaint with the Inter

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Speaker 4: American Commission on Human Rights saying that his due process

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Speaker 4: rights were violated, as well as a right to a

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Speaker 4: fair trial.

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Speaker 6: Under international law. And I bring that up just to say,

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Speaker 6: we are.

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Speaker 4: Expecting that this law, this legal system, that this justice

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Speaker 4: system would serve its people. But we are seeing this

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Speaker 4: legal system regularly side with the illegality of the Trump administration.

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Speaker 4: And so despite the fact that whatever this Human Rights

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Speaker 4: Commission and decides is not binding, it is still fair

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Speaker 4: to say that that might be the only place where

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Speaker 4: someone even sees justice from an opinion. And I think

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Speaker 4: that is what is really scary about this. They are

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Speaker 4: painting people with such a broad brush. I know we're

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Speaker 4: going to talk about what they're saying about Somali Americans.

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Speaker 6: Later we're talking.

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Speaker 4: About Colombians and Venezuelan's and Jamaicans and other folks who

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Speaker 4: live in the Caribbean. How they're saying, like everybody a

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Speaker 4: fisherman is a drug dealer. Now, you know, it is

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Speaker 4: beyond And so I'm hoping that Congress will find a

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Speaker 4: bipartisan pathway that the Republicans would set its racism aside,

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Speaker 4: it's xenophobia side to do the right thing from a

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Speaker 4: standpoint of what is just and right.

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Speaker 6: And I just don't know that that's going to be

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Speaker 6: the case.

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Speaker 1: And if they don't have to determine what is justin right,

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Speaker 1: maybe they could decide that, you know what, what if

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Speaker 1: a Democrat were in the White House and decided to

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Speaker 1: add put the US military off the coast of Europe

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Speaker 1: up and decided to then sink yachts.

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Speaker 3: Even outside of our politics. I think, you know, Macari,

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Speaker 3: I know this is your place of employment, but I

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Speaker 3: just I have a challenge. I don't think it should

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Speaker 3: be up to you to defend what is righteous and truth.

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Speaker 11: You know.

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Speaker 3: I think the fact that she was posing this question

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Speaker 3: quite arrogantly to an attorney, as though he wasn't going

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Speaker 3: to have a ready answer to destroy every stupid point

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Speaker 3: she she made. If only we had journalists to do

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Speaker 3: that job. I think presenting this as though it's political fodder. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: as though well, one side says it's okay to randomly

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Speaker 3: open fire against presumed innocent people in the ocean. Another

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Speaker 3: side says that's wrong. So let's debate this and talk

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Speaker 3: about it. It is not political fodder. These are people's lives,

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Speaker 3: and I just wonder what is the bar for what

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Speaker 3: You can go on some of these networks and say

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Speaker 3: what is the bar where it's this? You know, this

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Speaker 3: actually does go against humanity. We should not have this

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Speaker 3: person on espousing these beliefs.

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Speaker 6: I truly, it's a.

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Speaker 3: Genuinely honest question that I think we start, we as

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Speaker 3: the audience, because we're the true power broker for tuning

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Speaker 3: into these things, we have to start asking why is

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Speaker 3: this person allowed to go on there and lie routinely?

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Speaker 3: So me as a panelist, I have to disrupt and

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Speaker 3: disprove and the host and it's not I think we

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Speaker 3: have an unfair expectation of Abby often because she looks

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Speaker 3: like us, and so we expect like you of all people,

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Speaker 3: like we don't want to see you do this. But

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Speaker 3: it's quite frankly, not just her show. Every show on

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Speaker 3: that network will present these absurd views and say let's talk.

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Speaker 6: About it, and I just every network now.

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Speaker 3: Every network, And that is part of normalizing the craziness

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Speaker 3: that we see is putting it out there like, oh,

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Speaker 3: this is just we have to give a conservative ideology

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Speaker 3: a space to breathe, and it's not. It is right

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Speaker 3: wing extremism that we're presenting as though it's a debate.

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Speaker 5: So my biggest yeah, I hear you, and that that

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Speaker 5: is Abby and I had this conversation because I was, like,

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Speaker 5: I texted her on Saturday morning, I said, did you

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Speaker 5: watch the show last night? And you know, I was like,

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Speaker 5: we're You're viral now, not for this particular discussion, but

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Speaker 5: because of she and Katie Miller. Katie was disrespectful and

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Speaker 5: Abby was able to and I love her to death,

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Speaker 5: and she was able to kind of hold her on.

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Speaker 5: But that is the conversation that engulfs the larger conversation,

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Speaker 5: which is what you're talking about. Like that, I want

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Speaker 5: people to understand that the conversation Tiffany is talking about

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Speaker 5: is a conversation that actually has had between host and

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Speaker 5: guest and everyone else, like what what does journalism look

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Speaker 5: like today? And my counterpoint to you is that if

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Speaker 5: I did not have that opportunity to have that debate

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Speaker 5: with Katie Miller, then oftentimes there are echo chambers which

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Speaker 5: have pierced that fourth wall where her voice would be

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Speaker 5: heard unchecked. And what we've seen is that they go

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Speaker 5: into these spaces, they go into these podcast they go

673
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Speaker 5: into these networks, and what we always thought were Republican

674
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 5: echo chambers that only Republicans listen to has actually pierced

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Speaker 5: that fourth wall. And now it's made it into mainstream

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Speaker 5: even without the networks. Now I don't This is now,

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Speaker 5: this is when I really see the ground in utifany,

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Speaker 5: because you actually are the journalist in the room, so

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Speaker 5: you have those type of standards and ethics and morals.

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Speaker 5: But just from a consumer of news and one who plays,

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Speaker 5: you know, commentator on TV, I was just thankful for

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Speaker 5: the opportunity to be able to have my opportunity to

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Speaker 5: push back on it. Now, I mean just from a

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Speaker 5: legal perspective, that's one argument from a shifting gears a

685
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Speaker 5: little bit from a legal perspective, people are like, well,

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Speaker 5: they don't even deserve due process. And my argument to

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Speaker 5: that is, if you're actually going out there to capture

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Speaker 5: someone who you believe is bringing drugs into the United

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Speaker 5: States to be held accountable under our system of jurisprudence,

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Speaker 5: then yes, you can't have it both ways.

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Speaker 2: Regardless.

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Speaker 5: One of the things the United States has been able

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Speaker 5: to do, save for George W. Bush, has been able

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Speaker 5: to keep us out of this international court system because

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Speaker 5: the Geneva Convention also applies, like you can't indiscriminately kill

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Speaker 5: people civilians.

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Speaker 2: You can't even I mean, you can't even indiscriminately kill people.

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Speaker 1: Who are combatants who have given themselves up, that's right,

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Speaker 1: or or are debilitated from fighting, so they could they

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Speaker 1: could have not given up, correct, but don't have a

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Speaker 1: weapon and don't have the means to now fight back.

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Speaker 5: And this is and so you saw you saw the

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Speaker 5: African American, the black man and his name escapes me now.

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Speaker 5: But he had been an admirable for three decades who

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Speaker 5: resigned his post quietly, didn't embarrass nobody, didn't pull a

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Speaker 5: lane Kiffin right, didn't resign under the cover of darkness

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Speaker 5: and catch a plane to be to LSU.

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Speaker 2: He didn't do any of that. He just was very respectful.

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Speaker 8: Now you have.

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Speaker 5: Admirable, Admirable Admiral Bradley, who Pete Haskiff is thrown under

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Speaker 5: the bus because he said, well, he called those strikes

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Speaker 5: and I mean, that's just And at the end of

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Speaker 5: the day, there may be accountability, it ain't gonna be

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Speaker 5: where it should be. There'll be some heads that are rolling,

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Speaker 5: but it ain't gonna be the ones that should.

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Speaker 4: We might play this clip from Pete haiks As twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 4: because my how tables have turned.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you're.

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Speaker 13: Doing something that is just completely unlawful and uh and

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Speaker 13: and ruthless. Then there is a consequence for that. That's

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Speaker 13: why the military said it won't follow unlawful orders from

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Speaker 13: their commander in chief. There's a standard, there's an ethos,

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Speaker 13: there's a belief that we are above what so many

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Speaker 13: things that our enemies or others would do.

725
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Speaker 14: Our laws are.

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Speaker 6: Clear, you can refuse illegal orders.

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Speaker 1: So they is Lambastard Democrats for the last two weeks,

728
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Speaker 1: calling them Benedict Arnold's traders for the dead, their hangings, yes,

729
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Speaker 1: so on and so forth, because they said, what was

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Speaker 1: the law, what is the standard within the US military.

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Speaker 4: Cabinet and from the commander in chief that you wouldn't

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Speaker 4: give or authorize them to follow unlaw for orders.

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Speaker 6: And the fact that they.

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Speaker 4: Simply say they do not follow in law for orders,

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Speaker 4: they're like trader, Well, who they trading?

736
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Speaker 2: I think Tiffany's it you to jump in.

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Speaker 5: But I have a conspiracy theory and I'm not a

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Speaker 5: conspiracy theorist. A wife, My wife is very much a

739
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Speaker 5: conspiracy theorist, Like she doesn't believe in coincidences, none of that.

740
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Speaker 5: Like anyway, people are going to ask the question why right,

741
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Speaker 5: Like for somebody who's listening to the show. They'll be like, Okay,

742
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Speaker 5: they're bombing. They're bombing people in the middle of the Caribbean,

743
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Speaker 5: Like why, Like, none of this really makes sense without

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Speaker 5: an answer to the question why, what's of value? Why

745
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Speaker 5: are we Is it really because the war on drugs?

746
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Speaker 5: I mean, is that what it's really about? And I

747
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Speaker 5: have come to the conclusion that it's not. I have

748
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Speaker 5: come to the conclusion that this is all about Venezuelan

749
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Speaker 5: and oil. And I don't even know if it's a

750
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Speaker 5: conspiracy theory as much as it's like geopolitical, like gut check.

751
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 5: But if you see US ramp up outside of we

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Speaker 5: actually have naval vessels that have pulled up to the

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Speaker 5: coast of Venezuela.

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Speaker 1: By the way, that have left the previous territories where

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Speaker 1: they were assigned in the Strait of Taiwan, correct off

756
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Speaker 1: the coast of Russia. I mean, the real hot spots

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Speaker 1: in the world, in fact, the hottest hot spots in

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Speaker 1: the world when it comes to threats to the United

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Speaker 1: States of America in our interests across the globe, they

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Speaker 1: removed those and brought it into frankly, the quiet part

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Speaker 1: of the world.

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Speaker 4: Just at his point to just to add a country

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Speaker 4: on what you're talking about.

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Speaker 6: He also just partoned Win Orlando.

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Speaker 2: I can't figure out. I can't put that into my.

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Speaker 4: Town tip drug trafficker, d pardon this guilty by Americans?

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Speaker 6: Yes, pardoned him.

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Speaker 15: So.

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Speaker 3: And Venezuela's oil is less than one percent of the

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Speaker 3: globes oil production, but imagine the United States getting their

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Speaker 3: hands on that.

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Speaker 6: Maduro himself has.

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Speaker 3: Said like, this is about the oil, but this is

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Speaker 3: also why I would say having an understanding of foreign

775
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Speaker 3: policy and global movement does directly impact us in our

776
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Speaker 3: politics and our policy. Here the only thing I was

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Speaker 3: itching to jump in the car because I disagreed with

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Speaker 3: something you said and I.

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Speaker 6: Didn't want to not.

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Speaker 3: Well when you were saying, if we don't respond to

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Speaker 3: those voices like a Katie Miller type, then they go

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Speaker 3: left unchecked.

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Speaker 6: I don't believe.

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Speaker 3: That requires us to roll out the red carpet for

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Speaker 3: right wing extremists and see platforms to them. You guys,

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Speaker 3: remember when Megan Kelly was being apologist Forlia. I was

787
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Speaker 3: just talking about her on my I didn't and watch it,

788
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Speaker 3: but I saw it, said, don't you she said? She

789
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Speaker 3: just say she was discussing I'm talking about her pedophile comments.

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Speaker 6: Fifteen years She's.

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Speaker 2: Like, but he wasn't eight, Like what are we children?

792
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Speaker 3: But she was not the only person in that conversation

793
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Speaker 3: joining her was Batia Unger Sargon, who is right next

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Speaker 3: with her.

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Speaker 6: This is my point.

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Speaker 3: Batia is sitting there agreeing with her, who say yes, precisely,

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Speaker 3: she called herself a journalist. She worked for a few outlets,

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Speaker 3: and now she's doing CNN show and often does Abby's show.

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Speaker 6: Now you're telling me, we all know people.

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Speaker 3: Who are not allowed on CNN anymore, but a person

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Speaker 3: who is an apologist for pedophilia is invited to come

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Speaker 3: back to the platform. You can say disrespectful things about

803
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Speaker 3: black people. You they all kind of things, you're invited back.

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Speaker 3: And apparently you can also say it's okay to fuck

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Speaker 3: a fifteen year old and be invited on these networks.

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Speaker 3: That is not a voice to me, like inviting member

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Speaker 3: or namble next. That's not a voice to me that

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00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 3: should be invited to the table. So this is my

809
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 3: challenge with the networks. I don't want to hear from

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Speaker 3: Katie mill to me. I look at that and I'm like,

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Speaker 3: it's kind of insulting to me see Bakari there, because

812
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Speaker 3: it suggests that Bakari and Katie Miller are the same thing.

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Speaker 6: But that been doing that.

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Speaker 5: But I mean, that's why I always, okay, if I

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Speaker 5: if I were to give you credit for a depiction

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Speaker 5: and call your depiction accurate of the current media landscape,

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00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 5: if qualified, that's why your voice is more necessary now

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00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 5: than ever. And that's why when you I'm talking to

819
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Speaker 5: you directly, Tiffany Cross, take a step back and say

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Speaker 5: I will not participate in that circus. I think that

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Speaker 5: does a disservice to the people, both of y'all, Tiffany

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Speaker 5: Cross and Angela Ray. I think that does a disservice

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Speaker 5: to all of us out here who need your voices

824
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Speaker 5: pushing back, because if I give you credit, if I

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00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 5: give you credit for an accurate portrayal the media landscape

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Speaker 5: as we're going through this treacherous time, if you all

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Speaker 5: aren't there to be some type of stopgap voice, pushback,

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Speaker 5: angry speaking for us, then I fear that again they'll

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Speaker 5: they'll be voice. There'll be people out there who are

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Speaker 5: consuming this because that clip made it all around. But

831
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Speaker 5: you know what, you know how it didn't make it

832
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 5: around from people necessarily watching CNN. That clip, made it

833
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 5: around on TikTok, on all these my facial expressions, all

834
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Speaker 5: these other things.

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Speaker 2: And I just think that's sometimes we sell it.

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Speaker 5: We we sell ourselves short for the greater good to

837
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Speaker 5: protect our piece. And who am I to tell you

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Speaker 5: to destroy your own peak?

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Speaker 1: I think just go ahead, please, because you're you actually.

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Speaker 6: Alone.

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Speaker 4: I think that I think that there is a way

842
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Speaker 4: to do it, and if I'm perfectly honest with y'all,

843
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Speaker 4: I don't know the answer. I think that there are

844
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Speaker 4: voices that I don't agree with that I want on

845
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Speaker 4: this platform.

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00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 6: If I could have.

847
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Speaker 4: Megan Kelly come on so I could talk to her

848
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Speaker 4: about the Michelle Obama BS, I would do it. I

849
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Speaker 4: think there are The thing that I resent is when

850
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Speaker 4: they have people who are not equally qualified, yes, debating right,

851
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 4: so and lot, And to just be completely honest, I

852
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:02,240
Speaker 4: know I'm thinking about this around views and monetization. Having

853
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Speaker 4: Megan Kelly on is going to be a boon for

854
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Speaker 4: the show, So I'll make decisions like that. That is

855
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Speaker 4: where I am similar to a CNN exec that's like, oh,

856
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Speaker 4: this is going to be good for ratings, so I

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00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 4: understand that. I also think it is imperative that if

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Speaker 4: you make a decision like that that whoever, whoever your

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Speaker 4: other guests are, your hosts are readily prepared with facts

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Speaker 4: to refute some of that, Like.

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Speaker 3: That's part of the problem. Good for ratings and bad

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Speaker 3: for democracy. But so executives, they're like, yes, but I think.

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Speaker 4: That if I hate to say that at least a

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Speaker 4: third of the country agrees with some of these people.

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Speaker 6: I don't think it's happy. I don't think it's happened.

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Speaker 6: I think it's a third because a third of the

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Speaker 6: folks at.

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Speaker 2: Home, A third of the I was thinking about voters, Okay,

869
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Speaker 2: but you're.

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Speaker 4: Thinking about voters to a third of the voting stayed home,

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Speaker 4: A third Kamala third Donald Trump. So if that's the case,

872
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Speaker 4: I believe that we have some obligation to.

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Speaker 6: Influence them and to equip our family members.

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Speaker 4: Who are politically engaged or might be on the friend

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Speaker 4: to be let me just say this is the one

876
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Speaker 4: last point, might be ready to almost engage. Give them

877
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 4: the talking points, give them the things that we're saying

878
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 4: where they're like, okay, that makes sense.

879
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 6: I can go on.

880
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 3: Are they convertible are those people recept.

881
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: That that's who you're talking to.

882
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 4: I'm talking about the people who would listen to us

883
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 4: that are like I would find you.

884
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 6: But I just need the information.

885
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 5: You also need to watch. You don't need a watch,

886
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 5: that's the thing. And in order to shift democracy, in

887
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,919
Speaker 5: order to change the future of the country, you don't

888
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 5: need a wide swow. You're talking about decimal You talk

889
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 5: about decimal point. So would you do you do you

890
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 5: see any inherent value in the lord? The topic is

891
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 5: way over there and we're down here now, But do

892
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 5: you see any inherent value Tiffany Cross of you debating

893
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 5: Ben Shapiro, No, I do.

894
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 11: I do.

895
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 2: And I just find that to be fascinating to.

896
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Speaker 4: Be on a platform though with and this is no

897
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 4: diss to anybody that we're talking about today, a platform

898
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 4: where there is a moderator that will fact check the

899
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 4: debaters if you're going to have a debate in Earnest

900
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:51,280
Speaker 4: Tip says she doesn't like to debate.

901
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 6: She debates with us about everything. Everything the way.

902
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, like, if there's somebody like, let's say

903
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 4: we're having a debate on reparations, right and and someone

904
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 4: comes to the table and says this country has never

905
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 4: paid reparations before the moderator come and say, actually the

906
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 4: Japanese after Japanese internment blah blah blah, and this, like

907
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 4: they can go through and say and at the state level,

908
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 4: this and at the city level, these things happen to

909
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,240
Speaker 4: correct the narrative.

910
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 6: I'm fine with that.

911
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: But if I'm going on somewhere.

912
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 3: So I think, what a fact. I take your point,

913
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 3: but this is where I will qualify it. We can debate. Yes,

914
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 3: let's just say, for your argument sake, that we debate

915
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 3: all the time, that I like to debate. Let's say

916
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 3: that's the debate. I don't like the baby everybody and

917
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 3: y'all think I like debate. Okay, fine, let's say that

918
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 3: I like to debate. I think our debates that we

919
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 3: have here and debate that I'd be willing to have

920
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 3: are policy positions.

921
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 5: You know.

922
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 3: We can debate about school choice. Yes, that's a position

923
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 3: where we might all feel differently. If my debate position

924
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 3: is one and your debate position is rooted in a

925
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 3: lack of my humanity, and its rooted in my oppression

926
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 3: that it is to me, beneath me to entertain that thought.

927
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 6: One.

928
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,919
Speaker 3: I don't think that those people are convertible in their thought.

929
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 3: I think the handcuffed positions to white supremacy are so

930
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 3: deeply penetrated in this country for four hundred plus years.

931
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 3: I'm just convinced I can't live alongside these homicidal maniacs

932
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 3: and expect at some point they're gonna say.

933
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Speaker 6: Oh, you know what, like you're fine. I know you.

934
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Speaker 5: Disagree, But the reason I disagree is because I look

935
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 5: at I look at an example like John Lewis and

936
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 5: Julian Bond who had to debate with Lyndon Baine Johnson,

937
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:42,240
Speaker 5: who saw him as niggas. They were one hundred percent niggas.

938
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 5: And the reason that he the reason that they had

939
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 5: to debate, the reason that they waded into that deep

940
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 5: water to debate with somebody who did not see their humanity,

941
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 5: is because practically they saw some tangible goals that they

942
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 5: could receive from that debate that they ended up succeeding

943
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Speaker 5: in getting. I mean, that's why you have this really

944
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 5: cool picture of my dad and John Lewis sitting on

945
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 5: the sofa in the Oval office. You got on these

946
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 5: high waters because LBJ didn't see the benefit of their humanity.

947
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 5: But they were able to go in and get the

948
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 5: Voting Rights Act the sixty four sixty activists.

949
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 3: Though, So yeah, I think for activists, yes, that might

950
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 3: take on a different perspective. I think when you're when

951
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 3: your job is to inform the people, I don't think

952
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 3: that's a good idea.

953
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 4: But if if part of informing is to dismantle and

954
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 4: dispirit other positions, there is a space for that too.

955
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 4: I just think that there's got to be a way

956
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 4: to do it responsibly, and we have to figure out

957
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 4: what that way is.

958
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 3: It's not being done responsible now. And I'll tell you,

959
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 3: when you first started going on television, I would be

960
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 3: disgusted who they would put you across from. I mean,

961
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 3: these are people who were not qualified to be your assistant,

962
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 3: you know, and they had you like debating them the

963
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 3: same way with you and Katie Miller. And I'm looking

964
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 3: like this is so and you're excuse.

965
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 4: My mouth, I'm trying not to cuss, but the god

966
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 4: damn governor, the state.

967
00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 6: It was offended debate.

968
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: I respect, holy what you mean by this mismatching and

969
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: disrespect all of us being suggested, right, But I think

970
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: there's some things we can no longer pretend don't exist.

971
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 2: The ship has sailed on.

972
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: The fair moderator who's all knowing, all seeing, can come

973
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: up the middle and say this is a fact, and

974
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 1: that's a falsehood or the like. That's not where we're

975
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: that's not what we are, and I don't know that

976
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 1: we're ever going back there. And so given where we are,

977
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: given where we are, the reality of where we are,

978
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: and that people are getting information from these really short

979
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: clips that look viral and they're sensational and they show conflict,

980
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: but they're also in some ways, depending upon who is

981
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: on the listening side, based in somebody's facts, right. And

982
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: so if people, if we don't accept the challenge that

983
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: our folks more than anything, because you talked about you,

984
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: you believe these people, folks are not convertible. That's not

985
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: who you're talking to. We're not sending you there to

986
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: convert them. We are sending you there to give our

987
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: team the information resource material they need so that they

988
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: can be a better advocate for what we believe.

989
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 2: And hope, Well, there's.

990
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: That, But more than anything, these people want to be

991
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: able to repeat. I wanted to because most people want

992
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: to be thought of as smart so they want to

993
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: hear from a smart person some smart thoughts that they

994
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: can then share with difference who they know ain't listening

995
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 1: to the native lampid, right, And then they're the smart

996
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: ones of the group. We are going to we are going.

997
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 3: To No, I mean it's real.

998
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: We got equipment with the knowledge, the skills, and the

999
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 1: tools in very short order, so that when y'all we

1000
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: should play that video about the conservatives on the campuses,

1001
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: and whether or not we thought we should, you know

1002
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: what that was, And I said, did you see that

1003
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: black boy beast?

1004
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 2: Up?

1005
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:01,439
Speaker 1: He was He was stating facts to those young Republicans

1006
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: that I'm not quite sure I believed he had under

1007
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: his command until he had him under his command. And

1008
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,479
Speaker 1: so sometimes it's you've got to be face to face

1009
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 1: with the enemy. Sometimes you gotta be just bare knuckles

1010
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: with them to show people what it's like to wrestle

1011
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 1: and to win at the end of the day. Then

1012
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: you equip them with the ability to do that. And

1013
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:27,919
Speaker 1: I think the more we lean into that forgetting about

1014
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: the fact that the ways of old used to be

1015
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: that there were fair and balanced conversations, we're not there anymore.

1016
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: That day is probably never coming back.

1017
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 6: Giving our current landscape.

1018
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 4: We were talking about this well, and on top of this,

1019
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 4: I'm thinking about got mad thinking about Andrew's debate. Was

1020
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 4: rond de Santis like they're not even on the same page,

1021
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 4: Like how dare y'all put them to rumble in the

1022
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 4: same ring. But the reality of it is the same

1023
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 4: thing exists for our friends in Congress.

1024
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 6: They're sitting in hearing rooms. The reason why beach blonde,

1025
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 6: bad bitch. But every time I say, all the time, but.

1026
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 2: Her, you've been cussing a lot.

1027
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 6: Pray for me Jesus to see.

1028
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 4: How speaking some of them that was actually a speech

1029
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 4: impediment issue.

1030
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:19,280
Speaker 2: Just now, so saying bitches.

1031
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 4: Whatever is the point I tripped over my tongue in

1032
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 4: that Moment's an impediment.

1033
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 6: Just the short one sitting here's the point.

1034
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 4: Literally she's talking, She's like, can you even see through

1035
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 4: your eyelashes?

1036
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 2: That's where we got.

1037
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 6: That bar from.

1038
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 4: Right, So we are we're in position in corporate America,

1039
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 4: in boardrooms, in classrooms, in these types of rooms where

1040
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 4: we're with people who are not they're punching above their

1041
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 4: weight all the time to even be sitting next to us,

1042
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:46,959
Speaker 4: And so we have got to figure out a way

1043
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 4: to rumble in away that isn't.

1044
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:51,280
Speaker 2: You don't have to go there.

1045
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, you tell people all the time you don't. You

1046
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 5: don't necessarily roll around with pigs.

1047
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 2: I mean you in the pig when once.

1048
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 1: I think all four of us have a very good

1049
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 1: understanding that when we are in these spaces the cues

1050
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: we have to take to not look.

1051
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 2: Dominant, angry. And to the woman, no, no, no.

1052
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 5: You got to realize you're talking. I'm talking to a

1053
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 5: white woman on TV.

1054
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: So all I'm saying is, but we can rumble with them.

1055
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: But when I said we were not equals, I meant it.

1056
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: I'm not going to rumble the same way you are.

1057
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna rumble.

1058
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 6: I'm gonna teacher boo.

1059
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,240
Speaker 1: Because they're not in case, they're not capable of learning

1060
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: that they can observe it.

1061
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 2: But they can't.

1062
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 4: So when you're saying that you rumble differently, what is

1063
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 4: a what is an elevated rumble?

1064
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: I mean we can put the clips I have, I've

1065
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: got examples for one second.

1066
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 2: For one second, stop centering yourself.

1067
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 5: But I mean, like I tell people this all the time,

1068
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 5: I say, you never argue with the fool because people

1069
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 5: watching can't tell the difference. And so when you're in

1070
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 5: these debates with people like that, first of all, we

1071
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 5: all have had the moment that you math to make

1072
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 5: this very conscious decision and everybody listening, No, it's today

1073
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 5: to day, I'm gonna lose my job. That is a

1074
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 5: conscious decision that you think about. Black folk think about

1075
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 5: this at work all the time. When they going to

1076
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 5: this meeting, they're like, it's to day to day, I'm

1077
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 5: gonna lose my job. And then and then you center

1078
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 5: yourself and you get the and then you say you realize, like,

1079
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 5: I'm not trying to change Katie Miller, Like, I don't

1080
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 5: think I'm gonna have a conversation with Katie Miller. Is

1081
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 5: she gonna go back home to Steven and be like

1082
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 5: those strikes are bad, my love?

1083
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 2: What I am doing now?

1084
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 5: And this is why, this is why I will I

1085
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 5: will preach this and yell at Tiffany until I am

1086
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 5: blue in the face. And why I think her value

1087
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 5: is just immense. It's because now those clips are going

1088
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 5: around and even little black kids or whatever they are

1089
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 5: just to your point because you're not talking to Katie, You're.

1090
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 2: Not talking about it.

1091
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 5: You're talking around and so and I tell people like

1092
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 5: and particularly black men, it's I'm not saying that our

1093
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 5: job is more difficult. Our job is different because we

1094
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Speaker 5: don't we can't get angry, because if I get angry

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Speaker 5: on air, then oh my god, I'm threatened.

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Speaker 2: You know, you're six five. I'm threatened by your persona like,

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Speaker 2: why are you so angry? This angry black man thing?

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Speaker 5: So you know you have to maintain your sense, your calm, dignity,

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Speaker 5: your dignity aside eye.

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Speaker 2: And then you, I mean, you got kids, you like

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Speaker 2: my kids watching this.

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Speaker 5: I can't get up here and act a fool alto

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Speaker 5: you know if you would have caught me.

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Speaker 4: Eddie different because Eddie ride five ten, He'd like to

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Speaker 4: say five eleven. Eddie rod be hollering right at He

1106
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Speaker 4: was yelling at somebody the other day at the my

1107
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Speaker 4: mom's in a rehab facilities.

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Speaker 6: If door is open, Eddie Rye screaming.

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Speaker 4: I said, so you do know that you're scaring every

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00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 4: single one of these patients in here, can you? I

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Speaker 4: took the phone, I said, mister Weinberry know all due

1112
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Speaker 4: respect he was talking. Mister Wibery said mister wine Bery,

1113
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Speaker 4: I have he gonna have to call you back because

1114
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Speaker 4: he in here.

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Speaker 6: Scaring all these patients, like you know, so he's built,

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Speaker 6: and I.

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Speaker 5: Know, I know black women have have have a set

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Speaker 5: of struggles. And I'm not saying one set is I'm

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Speaker 5: not doing the Oppressional Olympics, but I'm just saying for

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Speaker 5: and I am unfortunately kind of I'm sorry to speak

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Speaker 5: for you, Andrew, but this is just something that we

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Speaker 5: have in common when we go on TV, or we're

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Speaker 5: speaking in front of groups, or we're rumbling, as you

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Speaker 5: so eloquently put.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll just say this. We're about to talk to

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Speaker 1: somebody who has had her share of rubable and one

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Speaker 1: has had to elevate, levitate above some of the guttural

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Speaker 1: ways in which our politics is taking shape from the

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Speaker 1: highest office in the land. That's right, Let's check you in.

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Speaker 4: Congress ilhan Omar. Yeah, right after this, nobody knows. All right, everyone,

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00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 4: we are thrilled to bring to you all a good

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Speaker 4: friend of our ours.

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Speaker 6: Her name is Congressoman ilhan Omar.

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Speaker 4: She represents Minnesota's fifth congressional district, and she has been

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Speaker 4: front and center in the media this week and it

1136
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Speaker 4: is not by her own doing. The President of these

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Speaker 4: United States had this to say about Congressoman ilhan Omar

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Speaker 4: and members of her community, the Somali Americans who live

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Speaker 4: in Minnesota.

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Speaker 16: With Somayad, which is barely a country. You know, they

1141
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 16: have no anything. They just run around killing each other.

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Speaker 16: There's no structure.

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Speaker 8: And when I see somebody like ilhan.

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Speaker 16: Omar, who I don't know at all, but I always

1145
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Speaker 16: watch her for years, I've watched her complain about our constitution,

1146
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Speaker 16: how she's being treated badly.

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Speaker 8: A constitution. The United States of America is a bad place.

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Speaker 16: It hates everybody, hates Jewish people, hates everybody.

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Speaker 8: But what I watch one is happening in Minnesota.

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Speaker 16: Somalia's ripped off that state for billions of dollars, billions

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Speaker 16: every year, billions of dollars. And they contribute nothing. The

1152
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 16: welfare is like eighty eight percent. They contribute nothing. I

1153
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 16: don't want them in our country.

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Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you.

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Speaker 16: Okay, somebody would say, oh, that's not politically correct.

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Speaker 8: I don't care. I don't want them in our country.

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Speaker 8: Their country is no good for a reason.

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Speaker 16: Their country stakes when they come from hell and they

1159
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 16: complain and do nothing, but bitch, we don't want them.

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Speaker 8: In our country. Let them go back to where they

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Speaker 8: came from and fix it.

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Speaker 1: God, I hadn't seen that whole thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought it was important to show as she

1164
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Speaker 4: still lets her light shine despite what Donald Trump is saying. Congressman,

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Speaker 4: I don't know you to be anything but a loving fighter,

1166
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 4: and it is so immensely frustrating to watch that take

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Speaker 4: place in a cabinet meeting this week. What's your response

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Speaker 4: to Donald Trump and the cabinet members who sat there

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Speaker 4: as he went on this very dangerous, hateful, xenophobic tirade racist?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, he's he's such a bigoted fool.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 15: It's just the the the level of bigotries in a

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Speaker 15: phobia islamophobia. It's it's it's hard to understand how somebody

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Speaker 15: can hold that much hate in their heart and and

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Speaker 15: still be able to call other people hateful. It's also,

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Speaker 15: I think really creepy to have this level of obsession

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Speaker 15: with somebody that you haven't met.

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Speaker 2: That's real.

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Speaker 1: I wonder, Congresswoman, how do your constituents, your neighbors and

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Speaker 1: friends in Minnesota? I mean, I know Minnesota would be

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Speaker 1: quite an incredible state led by some pretty incredible people,

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Speaker 1: yourself included.

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Speaker 2: Generous folks, good.

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Speaker 1: In spirit, good and heart, very honest. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to overdramatize this, but really I've had a

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Speaker 1: lot of experiences and met a lot of people from

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Speaker 1: your home state, fundraised there before.

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Speaker 2: It's it's a good place.

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Speaker 1: I wonder how do your constituents respond every day lay

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Speaker 1: persons who don't have your experience with Donald Trump? Right,

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Speaker 1: he's the President of the United States. How do they

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Speaker 1: reflect on that?

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Speaker 15: And they've they've responded the only way Minnesotans know how

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Speaker 15: to respond.

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Speaker 14: They've responded with kindness, with love, with compassion.

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Speaker 15: You know, Prince is from Minnesota and once said, you know,

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Speaker 15: it's it's Minnesota nice, but it's cold and it keeps

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Speaker 15: the bad people away, and so you know, we don't

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Speaker 15: we don't.

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Speaker 14: We don't like hate in Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: One of the questions that I had is that people

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Speaker 5: always see you with the national profile, but oftentimes you

1204
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 5: have really really good members of Congress like yourself, and

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01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 5: they don't know the successes and the tangible things that

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Speaker 5: you've brought back to your district, brought back to Minnesota.

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Speaker 5: When we're going out there fighting for you, will tell

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Speaker 5: us what are some of the things that you've done

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Speaker 5: in your legislative career for Minnesotan's and disregarding that national

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01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 5: fervor that push against you, how you still been successful

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Speaker 5: and bringing it home distill a word from Andrew Gillim

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Speaker 5: for Minnesota.

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Speaker 14: I appreciate that question. I mean doing COVID.

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Speaker 15: I passed My Meals Act that helped feed twenty two

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Speaker 15: million children across the country and in Minnesota. I've also

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01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 15: been able to bring back forty six million dollars to

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Speaker 15: invest in multi family units to create an entrepreneurial community

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Speaker 15: kitchen for the black community in my neighborhood that in

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Speaker 15: my district that have that entrepreneurial spirit. We've invested in

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Speaker 15: essentially ending homelessness for veterans in Minnesota. So there's a

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Speaker 15: lot of really good work that we have been able

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Speaker 15: to do since I've been in Congress in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 4: You and I want you to go, but I got

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Speaker 4: to bring this up since you just brought up the

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Speaker 4: COVID nineteen.

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Speaker 6: We of course are aware of the.

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Speaker 4: Fraud that Donald Trump talked about at the Cabinet Secretary

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Speaker 4: meeting eighty thousand at least Somali's in Minnesota, and there

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Speaker 4: have been seventy five people indicted in association with the

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Speaker 4: COVID nineteen fraud scheme. The leader of that is someone

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Speaker 4: that they have somehow decided to shield. Amy Bach, who

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01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 4: is defeeding our future executive director and founder is a

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Speaker 4: white woman. But somehow this became a Somali led fraud.

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Speaker 4: So I would love for you to debunk some of

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Speaker 4: what has been widespread over the last several weeks, as

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Speaker 4: if this hasn't been prosecuted since the Biden administration, but

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Speaker 4: if you could talk a little bit about the truth

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Speaker 4: around that case and why they're targeting Somali's. This is

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Speaker 4: such a dangerous thing to be doing right now.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean, as you alluded to, the ring leader

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Speaker 15: of the fraud scheme and the person who helped make

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Speaker 15: make that fraud a reality, unfortunately in our state is

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Speaker 15: not Smally.

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Speaker 14: It's a Caucasian woman.

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Speaker 15: We've also had others that have that have been indicted

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Speaker 15: as well that are not of Somali ethnicity. The reality

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Speaker 15: is there's eighty thousand of us, majority of US are

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Speaker 15: citizens over ninety percent. Many of us have been in

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Speaker 15: the United States over thirty years. Many of us have

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Speaker 15: not been resettled in Minnesota. We all started out in

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Speaker 15: different states, about ninety percent of us, and chose to

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Speaker 15: live in Minnesota and move there because it is such

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Speaker 15: an incredible state that is so welcoming and has made

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Speaker 15: us be able to.

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Speaker 14: Thrive and and and be a vibrant.

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Speaker 15: Part of of the of the state and of of

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Speaker 15: the community. UH and Minnesota's in general are very resilient,

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Speaker 15: very strong people. We don't survive and thrive in that

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Speaker 15: cold weather without having some some strength and resilience. And

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Speaker 15: I know that as the raids are are happening right

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Speaker 15: now with with ice, they are being met with that

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Speaker 15: that resilience. They are being met with with people who

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Speaker 15: are showing them that they are citizens, and they're having

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Speaker 15: a really hard time and making fools of themselves trying

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Speaker 15: to find a non citizen or somebody who is undocumented

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Speaker 15: in our community.

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Speaker 14: Because that is like a needle in a in a Haysack.

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Speaker 15: We don't really have a lot of people who are undocumented.

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Speaker 15: Majority of US came to the United States with a

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Speaker 15: refugee status, which means you come in with documentation and

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Speaker 15: it means that we get our Green card within a year,

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Speaker 15: and within five years we are citizens. And we have

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Speaker 15: the highest number of immigrants of any kind in the

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Speaker 15: United States when it comes to achieving that citizenship.

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Speaker 3: Congressman, I think it's really important for our viewers and

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Speaker 3: listeners to understand why Somalians are receiving TPS, the temporary

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Speaker 3: protected status. This was actually granted under the Bush administration

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Speaker 3: HW Bush in nineteen ninety one after the fall of

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Speaker 3: Sayid Bar which led to a clash of warlords. And

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Speaker 3: so people have been fleeing the Horn of Africa for

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Speaker 3: decades now because this community keeps getting granted TPS. And

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Speaker 3: now that the entire structure of our democratic norms, including TPS,

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Speaker 3: has been thrown into disarray, I want to know what

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Speaker 3: is the practical full solution when our government is disappearing people.

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Speaker 3: So when I shows up to your constituents door simply

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Speaker 3: because they are Somali, Somalian are what are they supposed

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Speaker 3: to do, particularly at a time where they are disappearing

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Speaker 3: people to foreign countries. We have no idea. We're not

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Speaker 3: keeping track of these people. People are literally disappearing from

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Speaker 3: data from watchdog organizations. What is the practical thing that

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Speaker 3: they should do when the government knocks on their door

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Speaker 3: with the intention to disappear them.

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Speaker 14: I think thank you for that question.

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Speaker 15: Like I said earlier, many of the Somalis who are

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Speaker 15: in the United States are citizens and they are Green

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Speaker 15: card holders, so permanent residents.

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Speaker 14: We have about four hundred.

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Speaker 15: Folks around the country of the out of the one

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Speaker 15: hundred and thirty thousand or so Somalies that are in

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Speaker 15: the United States, and those folks with the with TPS status.

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Speaker 14: What we have been telling.

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Speaker 15: Folks before even the administration was sworn in was to

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Speaker 15: get their documentations in order, because we knew that with

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Speaker 15: Project twenty twenty five, it wasn't just going.

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Speaker 14: To be.

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Speaker 15: You know, this administration going after people who were undocumented

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Speaker 15: or who had you know, some sort of shaky status,

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Speaker 15: but that they were ultimately coming for every single person

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Speaker 15: that could look like an an immigrant, especially.

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Speaker 14: If you are brown or black.

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Speaker 15: And so our community has been preparing for for this fact.

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Speaker 15: And that is why, you know, I said earlier, with

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Speaker 15: the ice rates, they they are seeing you know, folks

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Speaker 15: have their passport ideas which folks can get if they

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Speaker 15: don't want to carry their passports.

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Speaker 14: Folks, are you know.

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Speaker 15: They they're taking photos of their passports so that they

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Speaker 15: have it on their phones. People know, you know where

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Speaker 15: the immigration lawyers are, where the resources are within the

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Speaker 15: Twin Cities and the state, A lot of people have

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Speaker 15: connections to the ICE offices and enforcement and so this

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Speaker 15: is this is a community that is equipped with information

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Speaker 15: and feels empowered to be able to defend themselves, and

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Speaker 15: so uh, that would be I guess my recommendation to

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Speaker 15: everyone else is one, know your rights. You do not

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Speaker 15: have to respond to ICE agents unless they have a

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Speaker 15: warrant that is signed by a judge. You don't have

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Speaker 15: to show identification of any kind if if there if

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Speaker 15: it's not.

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Speaker 14: Warranted by any to any law enforcement. And if you do.

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Speaker 15: Have an undocumented status, please please make sure that you

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Speaker 15: carry any sort of documentation that could be helpful and

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Speaker 15: in making sure that you do not get abducted and detained,

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Speaker 15: because ICE ditentions are very inhumane. Uh, and these ICE

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Speaker 15: agents are also a lot of them are untrained in

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Speaker 15: many aspects and it could be a very dangerous encounter.

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Speaker 3: Congressman, I know you have to run. I guess want

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Speaker 3: to ask a quick follow up. So I appreciate you

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Speaker 3: drawing the difference between you know, Green card holders and

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Speaker 3: those with TPS status. However, I think we're seeing we're

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Speaker 3: at a moment in history where so many people are

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Speaker 3: awaiting this invisible red line to be crossed, and we

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Speaker 3: see that happen again and again. We've seen US born

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Speaker 3: citizens abducted and detained. And so, as a member of Congress,

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Speaker 3: you are a part of these democratic norms. You are

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Speaker 3: a part of a structure. And I'm wondering if what

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Speaker 3: you're saying still matters today, uh, and more importantly, will

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Speaker 3: it still matter five years from now. We've already eroded

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Speaker 3: some of these norms. We've already to a certain extent,

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Speaker 3: normalized people being disappeared. So the advice you're you're giving

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01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 3: is relevant to some may say it's relevant to a

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01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:24,799
Speaker 3: government of yesterday. We've seen Ice have violent confrontations with people,

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Speaker 3: and when people are bearing witness with their phones, we've

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Speaker 3: seen them be attacked by Ice. And then it'll beg

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Speaker 3: the question, who are these people who are allegedly of Ice.

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Speaker 3: They're masked, often not showing their ID. How do we

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Speaker 3: know these aren't proud boys? In uniform. It seems like

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Speaker 3: all the rules have been thrown out. So I guess

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Speaker 3: I'm kind of sounding the alarm to you, uh, and

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Speaker 3: wondering what what do we do from here from a

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Speaker 3: legal perspective, a congressional perspective, but also a perspective just

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Speaker 3: from our personhood when we're physically confronted with these things.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, no, I mean that that is that is the.

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Speaker 15: Question that we're all asking ourselves, right, are are the

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Speaker 15: norms that we are used to, the laws that we

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Speaker 15: know exist, do they are, do they apply?

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Speaker 14: And will they continue to apply?

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Speaker 15: I think as lawmakers, it is our job to continue

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Speaker 15: to do some oversight. It is our job to you know,

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Speaker 15: visit these ice detention centers, to do the field hearings, uh,

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Speaker 15: to put the information out for people.

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Speaker 14: But it is as as.

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Speaker 15: You said, these are very dangerous times, uh, and we

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Speaker 15: have to also document and learn from this moment because

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Speaker 15: as Democrats, when we do have the power back with

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01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 15: our gavels, we we are going to have to do

1377
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Speaker 15: some accountability and we are going to have to do

1378
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 15: some investigations and subpoenas and figure out, you know, how

1379
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:51,719
Speaker 15: do we hold people accountable who have broken the law

1380
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 15: as as they carried out this sort of mass deportation.

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Speaker 15: And I would say I'm not I don't only tell

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01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:03,839
Speaker 15: people who are are you know, who became a citizen

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01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 15: or a legal resident to to carry their paperwork. My

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01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 15: son was born here and he has a passport I

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Speaker 15: D So that that fear is in every single person

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Speaker 15: that that could be uh attacked and and you know

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Speaker 15: be be attacked by by ice agents as they just

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Speaker 15: go about their their day to day.

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Speaker 14: So it just is that.

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Speaker 15: Kind of time that we're living through that that it

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01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 15: is necessary for us to be able to empower ourselves

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Speaker 15: with every tool that that we have.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 15: And lastly on this, I will say, you know, community matters.

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Speaker 15: We have seen that they have not been successful in Portland, Oregon,

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Speaker 15: in Chicago, Illinois, in h l A, Cowfornia, and we're

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01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 15: certainly seeing that they're not being successful in Minneapolis or

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Speaker 15: Saint Paul, Minnesota. Because community is showing up, People are

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Speaker 15: defending one another, people are providing information and protection to

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01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 15: one another, and people are alerting each other when when

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01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 15: they see something coming. And so I would also say

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01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 15: we have to think of ourselves as being part of

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01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 15: community and protecting our neighbors and our beloved once because

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01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:34,679
Speaker 15: what this administration is relying on is that we all

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01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 15: become so fearful and that we are intimidated into silence,

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01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 15: into not defending the rights that we have under the

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01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 15: constitution in this country. And it is important for us

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01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 15: to know those rights and to show up for one

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01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 15: another in protection of those rights, because these are rights

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01:13:52,960 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 15: that were hardly, hardly earned and fought for by those

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Speaker 15: that came for us.

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Speaker 4: I will just say on that community. You come from

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01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 4: the Twin Cities, and I just want you to hear

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Speaker 4: from our dear brother and friend, the Mayor of Saint Paul,

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01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:15,759
Speaker 4: Melvin Carter, who had this to say about Trump's comments.

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Speaker 17: And so when we talk about attacks, racist is homophobic

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01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 17: xenophobic attacks on our Somali community.

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Speaker 18: And you combine that with what Mayn Fred just said,

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01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 18: the vast majority of our Somali community are citizens. So

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01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 18: who just attacked isn't just Somali's who attacked a Somali Americans.

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Speaker 8: Who attacked is Americans.

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Speaker 18: And so the President of the United States is telling

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Speaker 18: you out loud that he hates Americans, then I can't

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Speaker 18: imagine a greater confession of.

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Speaker 6: Incompetence to do the job that you've been hired.

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Speaker 17: To do than to say you don't believe that Americans

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Speaker 17: belong in America.

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Speaker 19: That's what Donald Trump said to us today. And it's

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Speaker 19: very important for us to understand that.

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Speaker 6: That was not just an attack on our Southmley community.

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Speaker 17: It was an attack on our So Miley community and

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Speaker 17: everything Mary Fry comes from and Ozma said is important.

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Speaker 17: But it's easy to sit at home and say, oh,

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01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 17: he's attacking them.

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01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 19: He's attacking Americans, American citizens, American residents, American.

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Speaker 8: Neighbors are They're destabilizing.

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01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 2: Communities and trying to get us to be.

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Speaker 18: Afraid of somebody because of what they look for. And

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01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 18: as Mary Fry said that it's probable that there will

1440
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:35,799
Speaker 18: be constitutional abuses, it's not probable, it's what they're saying.

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Speaker 8: They are saying they target people based on how they look.

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Speaker 2: Now, all of us grew up in classes that taught

1443
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 2: us that that's.

1444
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 8: Wrong, and it's still wrong today.

1445
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 19: So what you're the president say today was that he

1446
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 19: is incompetent and incapable of being a president for the

1447
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 19: people of the United States because he just said out

1448
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 19: loud that he despises Americans.

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Speaker 15: Thank you, Thanks long even always brings the fire. Beautiful,

1450
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:03,719
Speaker 15: beautiful said.

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01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:10,480
Speaker 1: He learned that at FAM you.

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01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 6: Were so great.

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01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 4: We're so grateful for your time, so much, for your fight,

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01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 4: and for your current We see.

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01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 5: Prayers to you for your safety and your peace and

1456
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 5: your blessings.

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01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 2: Yes, and your children.

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01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 6: Much loves this.

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01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:26,599
Speaker 14: Thank you all than take care.

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01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 3: Thank you congress woman.

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Speaker 2: I love it. Really. I wanted to do a question,

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01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 2: but I didn't know. I didn't want to. I didn't

1463
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 2: feel like it wasn't. But I didn't want to do it.

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Speaker 5: I didn't feel like it was I didn't feel like

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01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 5: my question was proved it or timely. Because when she

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01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 5: talked about accountability, I wanted to go, that's a that's the.

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01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 2: Thing that's important.

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01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 5: I wanted to just frankly ask her, do you think

1469
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 5: that the King Jeffries is?

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01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 2: I was you and I were.

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to ask after that.

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01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 2: Before I didn't want to really put it on the

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01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 2: spot like that. I wanted but has to write because

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01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 2: I just knew she wasn't. I don't feel like she

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01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:05,679
Speaker 2: would have answered the question either.

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01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 1: He's already saying we're not going to ask.

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01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 2: Because I was like, do you think it came? Do

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01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 2: you do you think of came?

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01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 5: Jeffries can meet this moment a speaker of the House,

1480
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:15,719
Speaker 5: And I want to know, I.

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01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:16,640
Speaker 2: Want to know where.

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01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,640
Speaker 3: That's a question you asked, do you think Jeff can

1483
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 3: meet this?

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01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 5: I was firm in my belief a year ago. I'm

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01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 5: less firm today. But I don't I don't think the

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01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 5: answers no. I don't think the answers no because I

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01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 5: know him, But it's just I don't. I don't feel

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01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 5: how do you let hesef off? And we haven't heard

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01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 5: the first testimony from anybody about what's really going on

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01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 5: with this this program. So I actually, I actually think

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01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 5: that that that's kind of my call to action to

1492
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 5: kind ofsorder.

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01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:49,639
Speaker 3: We have to pay some bills. On the other side,

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01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 3: we're coming back with call to actions. Don't go anywhere.

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01:17:58,280 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 2: Who cares about truth in the loud.

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01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 5: I just where I ended with her was the prayers

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01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 5: for her family and her safety. I just think that

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01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:11,599
Speaker 5: we have to do a better job of lifting people

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01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 5: up who are in the shadows. And I said that

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01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 5: before Thanksgiving talking about people who were telling Carstraate. I

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01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:18,720
Speaker 5: just don't think that we were so consumed with our

1502
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:20,640
Speaker 5: day in and day out, and we talk about this

1503
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 5: as if it's just news when they're actual people there.

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01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:24,639
Speaker 2: So you know, I do.

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01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 5: I pray for the courage of a King Jeffries because

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01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 5: I'm not sure anymore, which is also a very dangerous

1507
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:33,879
Speaker 5: place to be. But I also pray for those families

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01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:37,559
Speaker 5: who are going through the unmentionable right now of just

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01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 5: can you imagine I mean, we don't, I mean, we

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01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 5: niggas right.

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01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:42,440
Speaker 2: We got a lot of stuff.

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01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 5: That we got to worry about regends, but being like

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01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:48,720
Speaker 5: picked up on the sidewalk on the way home, that

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01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 5: ain't really one of our concerns right now. So a

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Speaker 5: lot of times it's a it's hard to empathize, and

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01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:57,759
Speaker 5: so I'm just asking people to have a monocrum of empathy.

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01:18:57,840 --> 01:18:58,639
Speaker 2: That's my call to action.

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01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:02,679
Speaker 6: I have to the first one. That's quick.

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01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:04,639
Speaker 3: Y'all didn't really let me get into pop the balloon.

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01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:06,720
Speaker 3: So can we talk about that on the mini pod?

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01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:11,640
Speaker 4: Yes, And it won't be a debate because everyone.

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01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 3: Everybody we tune in to see how we feel this.

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Speaker 3: We don't talk about that on MANI pod. And my

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01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:20,879
Speaker 3: second call to action is something that's also very consistent

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Speaker 3: with something I say here, and that is dogs are

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Speaker 3: not Christmas gifts, Okay, they are responsibilities. And so I

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01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 3: see all the time people you.

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01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 6: Are be a part of it.

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01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 3: Please let me be apart.

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01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 2: They won't make it to the end of the podcast.

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01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 3: I want to be a part of this dog choice.

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01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 3: But I see people all the time who will give

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01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 3: someone a dog, and so many dogs end up in

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01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:47,639
Speaker 3: shelters euthanize, like literally tens of thousands in different communities

1535
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 3: get euthanized every month. So if it's like giving somebody

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01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 3: a two year old child and saying Merry Christmas, they're

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01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:54,680
Speaker 3: yours for the next fifteen years because they're babies who

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01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:57,639
Speaker 3: never grow up. So I don't give a damn about

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01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 3: your exhale andrew.

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01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 2: You on your side.

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01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:09,760
Speaker 1: All three of my kids, at the top of their

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01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 1: list last year was a dog. They conspired they want

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01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 1: and so we bought them a dog with batteries. Okay,

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01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 1: all right, take it out it pease, and and guess what.

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01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:20,679
Speaker 1: They did it for the first week.

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01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 3: And they didn't after. And that's the point when they're like,

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01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 3: this is gonna be your dog. Like kids cannot take

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01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 3: care of a dog, it's gonna be your You cannot

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01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 3: take care of a dog for fifteen years and welcome

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01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 3: the dog in your home and treat them with care

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01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:34,440
Speaker 3: and responsibility.

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01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 6: Do not get a dog.

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01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 3: If you are getting a dog, please adopt, don't shop,

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01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 3: go to shelters, don't go to breeders. That's all I

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01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 3: gotta say.

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01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 4: What's the what's the what's the what's the name of

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01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 4: the organization that does a sad dog?

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01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:51,280
Speaker 6: Please give the endorsement.

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01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 3: Deal and give them money, every please, everything.

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01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 5: If y'all really want to find a good date for

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01:20:56,280 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 5: Tiffany on Saturday morning so she can pet the dogs

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01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:02,799
Speaker 5: that they got.

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01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 6: Out there, she don't even need to just on the walk.

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Speaker 2: Boys, Yeah, I got a.

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01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 15: Boys.

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01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 2: I say run, I say run.

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01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 1: I tell the people we walked down the street. D run,

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01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 1: She's coming.

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01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:20,679
Speaker 3: They're always like, let's go are nowhere.

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01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 6: My call to action is, oh, I have a good one.

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01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 2: Call to action.

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01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 6: I really because I was stuck. But I have it,

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01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 6: you guys.

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01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 4: I was so stressed out trying to get everything together

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01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 4: for Thanksgiving.

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01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 6: I have cracked the code.

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01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 4: I now know that I'm going to have all my

1578
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 4: prep done twenty four to thirty six hours ahead of time.

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01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 4: I had like staff that came to help the day of.

1580
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 4: It's too late. I'm going to have the Soux Chef

1581
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 4: people come a day and a half before I'm ready.

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01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:56,080
Speaker 2: That's action.

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01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 6: Yes, get get some help, get some help and prepare

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01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:00,599
Speaker 6: your cousins and your Yeah.

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01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:04,679
Speaker 4: No, my family's gonna come over. We're gonna a sleepover

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01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:06,719
Speaker 4: before Christmas too. We are gonna do that. We're gonna

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01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:08,840
Speaker 4: have more prep time together. But I'm just saying, save

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01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:11,839
Speaker 4: your sanity, turn the music on, get the drinks pouring,

1589
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 4: and have a good time prepping for your Christmas holiday.

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01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 4: If you're gonna do that or Kwanza, whatever you celebrate.

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01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 3: You're saying on higher people. I'm for the people out there,

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01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 3: But I'm not just saying I daggling holiday.

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01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 6: I just want to be clear.

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01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 4: I said in my family members, I said, so they

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01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 4: are going to help my family member. I said, they're

1596
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 4: wh have a sleepover, We're gonna prepare stuff too. But

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01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:35,040
Speaker 4: I'm saying I did have some extra support my mom.

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01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:36,920
Speaker 4: As you all know, I think now she's been in

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01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 4: rehabit so just to make sure you don't let anything

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01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:40,599
Speaker 4: slip through the cracks.

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01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 6: I got a few people and to help us as well.

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01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:47,600
Speaker 4: So he translation what I'm saying it let me start over, apparently,

1603
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 4: let me be very far. I had support that I

1604
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:53,799
Speaker 4: paid for Thanksgiving because my mom has been in rehab

1605
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 4: and we've been making sure that she had everything she needs.

1606
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 4: So normally I can just lock in. I couldn't just

1607
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:00,320
Speaker 4: lock in, and I was exhausted. In addition to that,

1608
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 4: we have family members who also prepared things and came over.

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01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:05,720
Speaker 6: It was the day of the day of, It's too late.

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01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:09,440
Speaker 4: My recommendation is for the people who pay, who volunteer

1611
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 4: for your family members to come help, have them come

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01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:15,439
Speaker 4: beforehand so that you can get prepared ahead of time

1613
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 4: and things can be ready on time the day of.

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01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:19,919
Speaker 3: That is, get prepared beforehand.

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01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:22,960
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, I think everybody got it.

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01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 2: But you just classes a chef.

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01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 6: We do that too, but you do what I.

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01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 1: Will anoint you chef and so chef and cousin so so.

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01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 5: But you also you can look at people. You can

1620
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:45,600
Speaker 5: look at people and tell who ain't supposed to be

1621
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 5: in the kitchen. Yes, and also I mean I love animals.

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01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 5: I had a snake going up. I love dogs, but

1623
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 5: but they will interrogate you, Tiffany, about the habits you

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01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 5: have with your dogs.

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01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 2: Walk in the kitchen, what habit like is your is your.

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01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 5: Dog one of the ones in the pocket that'll be

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01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 5: licking on your face.

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01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:07,639
Speaker 6: And you feed the straight from you can't.

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01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:11,720
Speaker 9: You can't come in the kitchen around the foods, the

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01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 9: kitchen household you ever been in.

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01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 6: There's some black people that will feed their dogs straight

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01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:16,759
Speaker 6: out of pocket.

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01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:18,920
Speaker 1: They may be, but there's a protocols.

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01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:22,720
Speaker 2: I agree. I'm telling you, first of all, protocol will

1635
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 2: be established.

1636
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 1: It's you will, which is why they say yeah already. No, No,

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01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they don't have they don't feed their pets,

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01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 1: you know that kind of thing.

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01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 3: But there are black people who like the things that

1640
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 3: you are talking about. There are black people who do that,

1641
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 3: who will like have their dogs cooking.

1642
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:42,599
Speaker 6: Them in the mouth.

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01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 3: Instagram of black people pets it is. That's one of

1644
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 3: my favorite files. But you see in the kitchen and

1645
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 3: some black people that drives me crazy, Like you see this.

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01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 2: I love cooking videos videos, but I just can't.

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01:24:56,680 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 3: I can't the counter dogs that that is eat there

1648
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:00,719
Speaker 3: on pull.

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01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 1: I'm aligned with Tiffany on this. Yeah, this is you should.

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01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 6: Be double dipping in the pot.

1651
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:07,560
Speaker 4: Neither if you put your hand in the pot or

1652
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 4: put your or your spoon and you double dip.

1653
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't do double different. I mean if you

1654
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 5: have a tender and you dip it in, then that's

1655
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 5: the only thing I find to be acceptable in of

1656
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 5: like a chicken tender.

1657
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 2: Like if you have a tender and you're dipping in

1658
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 2: the person tender you know.

1659
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:35,679
Speaker 1: About I thought you were talking about the little small.

1660
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:39,759
Speaker 6: Start a debate, and so you get to Andrews.

1661
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 1: Yet I co signed Tiffany's that he.

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01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 6: Was about the dog. Don't don't get a dog for

1663
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:46,679
Speaker 6: Chris line.

1664
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 1: With because as you you threw me under the bus, befo,

1665
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 1: I got you know, off the bus.

1666
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:52,799
Speaker 6: Impossible, wish you were an animal.

1667
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 1: Get under the bus. If I'm still on the bus.

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01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 4: Well anywhere to the back of the bus, please get

1669
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:00,799
Speaker 4: out the back the best because.

1670
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 6: Anniversary of best Boycotts.

1671
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:07,759
Speaker 4: Shout out to Rosa Parks and everybody that came before.

1672
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 1: Welcome home, everybody, welcome, welcome, welcome home.

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Speaker 6: And because I have a next election.

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01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:17,640
Speaker 2: I beg your pardon. I think there will be no

1675
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 2: one or how many days left unto the next election.

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01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 1: Oh right, yeah, sorry, I mean I know that, but

1677
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 1: but I thought you said there will be another election.

1678
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 1: But yes, there will, and it will be in three

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01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty four days. Three hundred and thirty four

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01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:32,599
Speaker 1: days until the next national election, which will take place

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Speaker 1: in your various states. Now please check your state local

1682
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 1: calendars because you all will have primaries prior to that,

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01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:43,400
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