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Speaker 2: Time, luck and load. So Michael Verie Show is on

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Speaker 3: the accompanying materials on the worksheet for the next discussion

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Speaker 3: will be degree free dot com. Degree free dot com.

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Speaker 3: This woman helps folks get jobs without buying college degree

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Speaker 3: tech to trades, she describes it. She's based in Montgomery, Texas,

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Speaker 3: and that gives me occasion to pay tribute to I

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Speaker 3: believe the late Great I think he passed because I

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Speaker 3: never got to meet him, and I was bummed about

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Speaker 3: that relatively recently. Right, Oh, this is not right. Francis

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Speaker 3: Rodney Zambone, I believe it was his name. Francis Rodney

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Speaker 3: Zambone was from Montgomery. He wrote under the name Mark James.

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Speaker 3: I wish he'd kept Zambone because I think that's a

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Speaker 3: I mean, Frank Zambone. I like that better than Mark Jane.

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Speaker 3: Mark James is just anyway. He wrote always on my

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Speaker 3: mind that Elvis made famous Moody Blue Suspicious Minds.

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Speaker 1: The only Elvis song ramone that.

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Speaker 3: I ever know of being covered with with any facility,

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Speaker 3: with any success, and that was Dwight Yoakam's version, and

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Speaker 3: that's because he kind of he took it to punk

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Speaker 3: country and so that changed the style. And I think

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Speaker 3: that's the only reason I tolerated. He wrote, uh, hooked

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Speaker 1: What's his name for?

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Speaker 3: Bj Thomas? Anyway, he was from Montgomery, she's from what

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Speaker 3: That's all.

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Speaker 1: He wrote, just a few of what he wrote. Her

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Speaker 1: name is Hannah or Hahn? Before we ask her, what

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Speaker 1: do you think it is? You're gonna go Hannah?

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Speaker 3: Okay, Hannah Mario Maru Yama, Maru Yama probably a good

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Speaker 3: Japanese name. The website is degree Free. This is the

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Speaker 3: kind of thing that I think could help a lot

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Speaker 3: of folks. So, Hannah or Hannah, which is it?

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Speaker 4: It's Hannah. It's Hannah. Thank you so much for having

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Speaker 4: me on. Michael.

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Speaker 3: Now tell me you reached out to me with a

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Speaker 3: kind of here's what I do or your PR person

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Speaker 3: did or whatever. Did you know this is something that

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Speaker 3: don't lie? Did you know this is something that I

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Speaker 3: talk about often? Or were you just scattershotting out there

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Speaker 3: to everybody that might put you on.

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Speaker 4: No, sir, I had a list and you were on it,

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Speaker 4: and I did I did do a little bit of

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Speaker 4: research prior before I gave I gave instructions to my

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Speaker 3: Okay, your site degree free dot com. The book you

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Speaker 3: can get wherever you buy books. It's called Degree Free

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Speaker 3: Way Workbook.

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Speaker 1: Parent. What is your purpose here? What are you trying

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Speaker 1: to accomplish?

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Speaker 4: What I am trying to do is I am trying

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Speaker 4: to keep the next generation of Americans out of unnecessary

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Speaker 4: student loan debt. And I am trying to save them

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Speaker 4: hundreds of thousands of dollars in years of their lives

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Speaker 4: that they do not have to spend on a college

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Speaker 4: campus learning from people who have never done the things

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Speaker 4: that they are teaching them how to do.

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Speaker 3: And what got you interest? Did you have experience with

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Speaker 3: your in your own life or with your children with this?

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Speaker 4: I do so. I personally just finished working in AI

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Speaker 4: machine learning for the past three and a half almost

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Speaker 4: four years, and I built a fairly successful type career

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Speaker 4: I did that without buying a college degree myself. And

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Speaker 4: seeing what I saw when I was doing that really

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Speaker 4: helped me to understand how employers are hiring, and then

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Speaker 4: the disconnect and the amount of misinformation there is around

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, you're a redhead? Did you know she's

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Speaker 1: a redhead? Shed sound like a redhead? What is your

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Speaker 1: maiden name? O'Shaughnessy or.

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Speaker 4: It's it's it's Shattck. But yes, I am very Irish.

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Speaker 4: My husband's the Hawaiian Japanese one.

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Speaker 3: Well, Hawaiian Japanese is our executive producer, Chad Nakanishi.

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Speaker 1: So you're in good company here. I'm looking at your

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's he's thicker than Chad, but I think Chad

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Speaker 1: What is mister? He's a boxer?

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, I was asking if Chad was a boxer.

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Speaker 3: A ground game guy, although if I bragged on him.

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Speaker 3: At this point, he says, I'm not any good anymore.

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Speaker 3: But he's got the cauliflower ears. He trains every day,

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Speaker 3: He has absolutely ruined his body by fighting so much

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Speaker 3: He gets in insanely early. He gets up and works out.

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Speaker 3: because it's all he has to get his training in.

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Speaker 1: So what does mister maru Yama do.

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Speaker 4: Mister Mariama runs all of the other side of the business,

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Speaker 3: So I look Joel up and it says, I don't

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Speaker 3: know how old you are now, but y'all were twenty

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Speaker 3: you're from Montgomery. Y'all decided to come back here.

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Speaker 4: So I'm actually not from Montgomery myself, my husband, and

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Speaker 4: But we moved to Montgomery during COVID because Hawaii got

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Speaker 1: That's crazy.

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Speaker 3: Nobody's in Montgomery from Hawaii because they found people were

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Speaker 3: in Montgomery because they got a job, their family lived there,

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Speaker 3: and they they're there and they like it. But nobody

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Speaker 1: That is nuts.

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Speaker 4: We did, Okay, it was top of the list, it

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Speaker 4: was top of the Excel sheet.

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Speaker 1: Did you go to college?

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Speaker 4: I did not. I'm degree free, so I guess technically

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Speaker 4: I did.

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Speaker 1: Like a disease, I'm degree free. I'm safe.

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Speaker 4: Well have you have you? If you've met a recent

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Speaker 4: because I ask why too often, and my professors were

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Speaker 4: not interested in people that ask why and don't adhere

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Speaker 4: I wasn't I think that the way that I thought,

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Speaker 1: Hold on, just just a moment.

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Speaker 3: Hannah, Yeah, it's that Hannah Shattuck, Maria.

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Speaker 1: One must dig deep to come up with the right guard.

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Speaker 1: The Michael Barry That's how.

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Speaker 4: I found my first ten wives.

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Speaker 1: Several years ago.

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Speaker 3: There were a group of us all about the same age.

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Speaker 3: had just he had just become a quadriplegic. The questions

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Speaker 1: What will you get paid? What? What if you get hurt?

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Speaker 1: Do you do you? Have you ever done that before?

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Speaker 3: It was a it was a cross between mommy panic,

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Speaker 3: And I don't know what the kid, what will happen?

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Speaker 3: But I know I've watched a lot of kids go

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Speaker 3: When you hear numbers of what people spend for college,

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Speaker 3: TCU at Miami, they're spending over one hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 3: or go to cops school or go to firefighter school.

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Speaker 1: So we need to be.

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Speaker 3: Careful that we don't assume the natural thing you ought

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Speaker 3: to do when you graduate high schools go to college.

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Speaker 3: Our guest is Hannam Mariyama. The website is degree free.

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Speaker 3: I was poking around it during the break. There's a

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Speaker 3: lot there and you can learn a lot about her

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Speaker 3: and then she's got books. There's a one on one

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Speaker 3: you can do with her. And yes, it will cost money.

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Speaker 3: I know people nobody has a problem paying for some things,

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Speaker 4: set of skills, different set of work that's going to

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Speaker 4: help you to accomplish that in your life, because that's

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Speaker 4: what's going to make them actually fulfilled by their job,

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Speaker 4: because their jobs not their life. And then after that

440
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Speaker 4: we talked about, you know, how much money do you

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Speaker 4: want to make to do the things that you want

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Speaker 4: the right A good example is is Chad, you're you're

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Speaker 4: you know, you're you're in your you're in house Hawaiian.

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Speaker 4: He you know, he trains and it costs money to train,

445
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Speaker 4: and so I worked with the young man who really

446
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Speaker 4: wanted to spend a lot of time training in jiu jitsu.

447
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Speaker 4: But that's expensive. You know, as he moved out of

448
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Speaker 4: his parents' house, he's responsible for his own bills. He's

449
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Speaker 4: got to make enough money that he can pay to train,

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Speaker 4: you know, and that's something that he cares about. And

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Speaker 4: so we were looking at jobs that will fulfill that

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Speaker 4: so you can pay you know, pay for his rent,

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Speaker 4: pay for his food, a lot of protein, and then

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Speaker 4: you know, go train. And then we also think about

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Speaker 4: the type of schedule that they want to have. You know,

456
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Speaker 4: do they want to work you know, they want to

457
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Speaker 4: work swingshifts, they want to work oil field work. Do

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Speaker 4: they want to work four days a week? You know,

459
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Speaker 4: because that's going to give you a different side of jobs.

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Speaker 4: And what's the priority to them. And when once we

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Speaker 4: put those things in order, then our team goes out

462
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Speaker 4: and we just research. We just go out to the

463
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Speaker 4: whole internet. There's three thousands, six thousand different jobs out there.

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Speaker 4: We add hundreds more every single month, and we go

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Speaker 4: through and we find where they live or where they

466
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Speaker 4: want to live, what jobs are going to fit those things,

467
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Speaker 4: and then what skills employers actually need them to learn,

468
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Speaker 4: and then we give them options to learn those things.

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Speaker 4: All of them are faster and cheaper than a college degree,

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Speaker 4: because a college degree really just slows you down nowadays,

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Speaker 4: and it costs way too much for what they're going

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Speaker 4: to teach you, and they're actually not going to teach

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Speaker 4: you anything employable, So you're going to get out and

474
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Speaker 4: have to do the exact same process that we do

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Speaker 4: a degree free, you know, for eighteen year olds.

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Speaker 3: What what you're talking about there, and it's just very

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Speaker 3: important to people here is that you have agency over

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Speaker 3: your life.

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Speaker 1: I know so many people, and I've known since.

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Speaker 3: I graduated high school that they get out of school

481
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Speaker 3: and they're like being blown about like a leaf because

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Speaker 3: they don't know. Nobody told them. And where did you

483
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Speaker 3: go to work? Well, so and so was hiring. What

484
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Speaker 3: did you do? Well, they put me over here doing this.

485
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Speaker 3: What were your hours? Well, they had me working overnights.

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Speaker 3: When you create, we live in a glorious time for this.

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Speaker 3: When you create that skill set, that ideal life for you,

488
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Speaker 3: and you consider your skill set and passions and all

489
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Speaker 3: those sorts of things, and you go looking for it.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing.

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Speaker 3: And it might be a dog rumor, it might be

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Speaker 3: a karate instructor, it might be a oil field scheduling

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Speaker 3: or actuary or court reporter or any number of other things.

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Speaker 1: That's what I love is the idea.

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Speaker 3: Of planning the life you want and then going to

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Speaker 3: find it rather than who's hiring. Well, that's not a

497
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Speaker 3: long term that's not a long term success goal. I

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Speaker 3: love your approach here and I absolutely love it. I

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Speaker 3: think this is fantastic. It's degree free dot com, degree

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Speaker 3: free dot com. Coming up, I'm going to ask Hannah Maruyama.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to ask her the however many minutes we

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Speaker 3: have available the most, the things that most people don't

503
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Speaker 3: know that would make the biggest difference, So the low

504
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Speaker 3: hanging fruit, the things that come up the most that

505
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Speaker 3: she helps people with, and how you can get started

506
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Speaker 3: today as a parent or as a young person. I'm

507
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Speaker 3: a big person, a big one forgetting your kids involved

508
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Speaker 3: in this process. Mommy, don't do it all for them.

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Speaker 4: The term anal intercourse on your program Michael Barry.

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Speaker 1: Show, if it's relevant to the story for journalistic.

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Speaker 2: Purposes, the Michael Berry shown Pope or the Pope. Nope.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I love the emails I'm getting, Joseph writes,

513
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Speaker 3: after two years of college, I found out what I

514
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Speaker 3: would be making after graduation, I quit. I went to

515
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Speaker 3: electrical apprentice. After fifty years, I retired with a great

516
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Speaker 3: retirement and full of cash. So many of these stories

517
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Speaker 3: coming in people that went into not just electrical employing,

518
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Speaker 3: but all sorts of other things. Okay, Hannah Maruyama, the

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Speaker 3: redhead married to the Honolulu native.

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Speaker 5: I want to know what are the.

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Speaker 3: Issues that come up the most when people start their

522
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Speaker 3: one on one training. By the way, you can you

523
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Speaker 3: can have one on one training with her, or you can.

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Speaker 5: Buy the book, or there are workshops and workbooks.

525
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Speaker 1: And all sorts of stuff.

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Speaker 3: It's all at degree free dot com. And I'm not

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Speaker 3: saying don't go to college, folks. I'm saying, just explore

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Speaker 3: your option plan your life. Don't be blown about by

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Speaker 3: the winds. Okay, what are the low hanging fruit, Hannah.

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Speaker 4: So low hanging fruit. Well, there's a few things that

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Speaker 4: parents need to know, I think, and that's parents are

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Speaker 4: the biggest drivers of whether or not they're kids buy

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Speaker 4: college degrees. But a lot of parents just don't have

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Speaker 4: the right information. They think their kids can only get

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Speaker 4: good jobs if they go to college. But really that's

536
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Speaker 4: just not the reality of it anymore. The market right

537
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Speaker 4: now shows that a zippercruiter's quarterly reports came out fourteen

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Speaker 4: point five percent of job listings mentioned college degrees at all,

539
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Speaker 4: and then on indeed it's eighteen percent, So it's the

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Speaker 4: less than one in five that even say a college

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Speaker 4: degree is preferred. We actually went through the Bureau Labor

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Speaker 4: Statistics and we counted and found that only seven point

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Speaker 4: seven percent of jobs in our entire country actually legally

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Speaker 4: require the purchase of a college degree to get. Interestingly,

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Speaker 4: Josh Shapiro, Governor of Pennsylvania, he removed degree requirements from

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Speaker 4: all state jobs that weren't necessary. There's I think twenty

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Speaker 4: four states have done this so far in the last

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Speaker 4: two years. But when he did that, it mirrored our

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Speaker 4: data and it freed up ninety two percent of the

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Speaker 4: state jobs in Pennsylvania. So almost a direct you know,

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Speaker 4: directly related to our data, which is ninety two point

552
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Speaker 4: three percent of jobs don't require degrees. So it's just

553
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Speaker 4: staggering a lot of parents just think, oh, this is

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Speaker 4: the only way for my child to be successful. It's

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Speaker 4: the only way for them to get a spouse. I'm

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Speaker 4: sure you've heard that. Actually, Michael, how how many people

557
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Speaker 4: do you think meet their spouse on a college campus

558
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Speaker 4: these days? Have good I have a good one for you.

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Speaker 3: For people who go to If you don't go to college,

560
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Speaker 3: you can't meet your spouse there. But let's say for

561
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Speaker 3: people who go to college, I'll bet you can't. Fifty

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Speaker 3: eight percent meet the person while.

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Speaker 1: They're at college.

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Speaker 4: Point seven four percent of people meet their spouse on

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Speaker 4: a college campus.

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Speaker 3: Not even wow, okay, so even just going to just god, wow,

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Speaker 3: that is very interesting, very and you know, there's so much.

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Speaker 3: I have so many friends that are big ut families

569
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Speaker 3: or big Texas A and M families, or big Alabama

570
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Speaker 3: family I've talked to one of my dogs yesterday and

571
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Speaker 3: his daughter's graduating from Auburn, so I sent him war

572
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Speaker 3: Eagle and they're so proud. And families invest in the image,

573
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Speaker 3: you know. I know people that the most important thing

574
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Speaker 3: they want you to know about them is they went

575
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Speaker 3: to UT or they went to A and M. And

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Speaker 3: they they're seventy five, right, and it's their identity. The way,

577
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Speaker 3: somebody's a Vietnam bet, that's their identity. I'm an aggie

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Speaker 3: and you go, okay, well that's great. But I think

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Speaker 3: that people see that and they take from it the

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Speaker 3: wrong thing.

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Speaker 4: I would agree with that, and I completely see why

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Speaker 4: people do. It's because it's such an emotional purchase for them, Right,

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Speaker 4: they're spending so much money so early in their life,

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Speaker 4: or their families are and nowadays, I mean the goal,

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Speaker 4: and this is the thing we all should be asking,

586
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Speaker 4: is why is there so much pressure on high schoolers

587
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Speaker 4: to do this? This is the only time debt that

588
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Speaker 4: is bankruptcy exempt, and it is bankruptcy exempt specifically for

589
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Speaker 4: seventeen and eighteen year old kids whose parents are co

590
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Speaker 4: signing on these loans. Why in the world is there

591
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Speaker 4: so much pressure on these kids to do this so young?

592
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Speaker 4: College is not going anywhere. Colleges are businesses, they're hedge funds.

593
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Speaker 4: They're always going to take your money. They're aways going

594
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Speaker 4: to take your kids money because it's bankruptcy exempt debt.

595
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 4: It's six figures on average. But why don't you wait

596
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Speaker 4: until your child's twenty five because you might be able

597
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Speaker 4: to cover the whole cost of their degree? If they

598
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Speaker 4: actually need it at that point, because no longer will

599
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Speaker 4: your income be determining how much your child's getting charged,

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Speaker 4: because they're not trying to reach through your child to

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Speaker 4: get you. The largest group right now that's taken out

602
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Speaker 4: student loans is actually grandparents because they've tapped the parents out.

603
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Speaker 4: The parents have their own student loans, and now they're

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Speaker 4: going to the grandparents to get them to take out loans.

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Speaker 4: And now you're threatening homes, you know, pensions, all kinds

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Speaker 4: of different things because of the amount of debt panner

607
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Speaker 4: and they're not questioning value.

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Speaker 3: How's your kid going to be a sigma co if

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Speaker 3: they're not in college?

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Speaker 2: You know what?

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Speaker 4: You know what, Michael, I'll say you my my middle sister,

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Speaker 4: she was actually in the military, because there's no my

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Speaker 4: family didn't have the money to pay for four kids

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Speaker 4: to go to college. You know, I was paying my

615
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Speaker 4: own way when I did go before I broke out.

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Speaker 4: But my youngest, my middle sister, not the welder, but

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Speaker 4: the other one, was actually an officer in the military.

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Speaker 4: She still has student loans she's paying off even though

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Speaker 4: she had rot you know, she went ROTC but just

620
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Speaker 4: you know, taking on loans to live the life, to

621
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Speaker 4: live the college life that you haven't earned yet. And

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Speaker 4: so many kids get caught up in that and parents

623
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Speaker 4: are the ones that are on the hook for it.

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Speaker 4: But the parents are the ones that told them they

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Speaker 4: had to go in the first place, and so they

626
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Speaker 4: can avoid that. And it's not you don't go, just

627
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Speaker 4: don't go until you actually need to or until you're

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Speaker 4: sure what you're doing, because so many of these kids

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Speaker 4: have no idea what's out there. And that's that's the

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Speaker 4: biggest thing we found. But in the meantime, I'm a

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Speaker 4: huge fan of sales. I think that all kids should

632
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Speaker 4: go into into sales. I think that if you're looking

633
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Speaker 4: for how can you equip your child now for the

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Speaker 4: future of work. And because I just came from AI,

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Speaker 4: one thing I tell parents is there's three big things

636
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Speaker 4: you can do. One thing is Toastmasters or local small

637
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Speaker 4: business Chamber of Commerce. Amazing everybody has access to those things.

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Speaker 4: Find those groups. It doesn't matter how small of the

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Speaker 4: town that you live in. I know there's one in

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Speaker 4: Montgomery and it's a small town, but there's Toastmasters. Go

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Speaker 4: take your kids and teach them how to public speak.

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Speaker 4: If you want them to be able to conquer the

643
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Speaker 4: world because these kids cannot a lot of them. They

644
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Speaker 4: can't look people in the eye, you know, you know,

645
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Speaker 4: just they can't look people in the eye. They can't speak.

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Speaker 4: And all your child has to be able to do

647
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Speaker 4: is do that and let them use AI tools heavily,

648
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Speaker 4: because colleges are punishing them for doing that right now.

649
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Speaker 4: And it's like watching somebody pay somebody one hundred thousand

650
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Speaker 4: dollars to kick them in the knees before they have

651
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Speaker 4: to go run a marathon.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think you were going to say, knees. I

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Speaker 1: love what you've done.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm from Savannah, so.

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Speaker 3: I love what you've done. And in the midst of it,

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Speaker 3: not lost on me is you have done exactly what

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Speaker 3: you're teaching other people to do. You have You and

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Speaker 3: Ryan have created a business, right and you've you've used technology,

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Speaker 3: You're you're obviously the face of the company, You're a

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Speaker 3: great communicator, you're you're you're good at this, you're good online.

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Speaker 3: And so in the midst of all this, here is

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Speaker 3: yet another business that is being created, and some people

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Speaker 3: are uncomfortable with that. You know, I like to talk

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Speaker 3: about making money and how we make money, and how

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Speaker 3: much money you want to make and how you want

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Speaker 3: to live and what you want to do with that

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Speaker 3: money and all the fun you can have and things

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Speaker 3: you But I love I love that you have set

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Speaker 3: this up, that y'all have created this life, that you

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Speaker 3: you find a spot on the map based on all

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Speaker 3: the factors you want. You know, uh, low cost of living,

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Speaker 3: close to an airport, you know, all the things that

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Speaker 3: probably went for you, low crime rate. It's it's it's

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Speaker 3: how you want to live. And it's even beyond your career.

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Speaker 3: It's a question of what kind of life do you

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Speaker 3: want to live? What kind of person do you want

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Speaker 3: to marry? Whoever shows up next to you at the

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Speaker 3: bar and you sleep with and you wake up the

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Speaker 3: next morning why not? Or somebody that shares your values

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Speaker 3: that you would want to go on a road trip with,

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Speaker 3: what you want to do.

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Speaker 5: For a career, where you want to live. I love it, Hannah.

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Speaker 5: We should have you back.

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Speaker 1: You're wonderful.

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Speaker 5: Tell Ryan thanks for sharing you with us for has

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Speaker 5: it been an hour?

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Speaker 1: Wow? Whole hour? Okay, that was fun.

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Speaker 5: Did we lose her?

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Speaker 3: She's already handling, She's already got other people going on

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Speaker 3: it's all right.

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Speaker 5: Well, ever, against a break, we got a pope. Yet,

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Speaker 5: we got a pope.

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Speaker 3: No, no pope, Okay, Michael Berry Show, Princess.

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Speaker 2: Hope or Nope.

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Speaker 3: You have no idea how hard I'm rooting no Pizza Bola.

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Speaker 3: If it's Pizza Bola, I'm that's going to be so great,