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Speaker 1: It's the Son of a Butcher podcast. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Claude Harmon. It's kind of a summer series we've got

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Speaker 1: going with Ryan Chrysler, who works with me here at

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Speaker 1: the Floridian RC. Having just watched JJ spawn, you know,

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Speaker 1: an unbelievable win at the US Open. But Oakmont one

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Speaker 1: of the toughest golf courses on the planet when the

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Speaker 1: USJA gets involved. I think it's the hardest golf course.

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Speaker 1: There is the setup, the questions it asks of the players.

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Speaker 1: But I was thinking that what the tour players and

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Speaker 1: what the best players in the world are trying to

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Speaker 1: do around Oakmont is as close to the average golfers

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Speaker 1: game as tour players are ever going to get right.

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Speaker 1: I think we always think about it in reverse. We're

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Speaker 1: always thinking, Okay, how could I possibly do something that

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Speaker 1: a tour player is going to do. I think everybody

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Speaker 1: that was sitting glued to their couch watching the US

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Speaker 1: Open at Oakmont that's the way they play. Meaning if

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Speaker 1: you hit it offline at Oakmont during the US Open,

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Speaker 1: you're struggling to make par, You're probably struggling to make bogie,

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Speaker 1: so you're bringing big numbers into play. That's due to

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Speaker 1: how penal the rough was. But that's basically the game

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Speaker 1: off the t that the majority of the people listening,

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Speaker 1: that's their game. They get in trouble off the tee

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Speaker 1: and they.

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Speaker 2: Struggle to play right there in the rough. They're behind trees,

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Speaker 2: they're trying to hit the hero shats. What we saw

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Speaker 2: the US Open was they're playing in the slop. The

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Speaker 2: rough is basically you lose your ball without the marker

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Speaker 2: there or Marshall helping you find that ball, and it

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Speaker 2: really kind of leveled the playing field, and you saw

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Speaker 2: a guy like JJ Spama was his final score, he.

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Speaker 1: Was even on the back nine, one under, one under

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Speaker 1: the back nine, no one under total.

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Speaker 2: One under total. But on the back nine a Sunday,

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Speaker 2: what was this?

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Speaker 1: I can't remember what he shot on the back shot

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Speaker 1: forty on the front, forty on the front. And that

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Speaker 1: was another thing. I mean, that is the gulf that

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Speaker 1: most people listening play. They start off their round with

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Speaker 1: five fives in a row. That doesn't happen to tour players.

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Speaker 1: Tour players don't start off five five, five five, It

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Speaker 1: just doesn't happen. But that tournament, the US Open at Oakmont,

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Speaker 1: I think if you go back in. There'll be some

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Speaker 1: probably some YouTube, or you can go back in and

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Speaker 1: watch every shot that JJ Spahn hit, or go back

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Speaker 1: in and watch the highlights. Look at the way the

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Speaker 1: guys that were leading that golf tournament and had a

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Speaker 1: chance to win that golf tournament, look at the way

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Speaker 1: they're playing it, and then apply that to your own

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Speaker 1: damn game. Hit fair ways, hit greens, and it's easy

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Speaker 1: to look in hindsight. I mean, I think he got

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Speaker 1: a big break. I talked about it with Gary Coch

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Speaker 1: when I had him on the podcast. He was on

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Speaker 1: the call. But the rain delay I think really helped

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Speaker 1: him because he shot forty on the front. He wasn't

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Speaker 1: playing good. I mean, he didn't look like he was

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Speaker 1: helped him reset. But I think he won the golf

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Speaker 1: tournament on Saturday. Where on Saturday afternoon, on the weekend,

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Speaker 1: in one of the last couple of groups in the

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Speaker 1: US Open, on one of the hardest golf courses known

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Speaker 1: to man, he made pars from the fifth to the

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Speaker 1: sixteenth hole. He just parned making pars. Now the announcers

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Speaker 1: kept calling it making a US Open par making a

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Speaker 1: US Open Oakmont par You know, that's what you have

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Speaker 1: to do to win these things. But for everybody listening,

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Speaker 1: if you could just do that string together two and

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Speaker 1: a bit hours of just making pars. Now some of

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Speaker 1: those pars he's holding ten footers. But it doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: how you're making the pars, specifically in a US Open

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Speaker 1: on a golf course like Oakmont, with the way the

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Speaker 1: setup is, it doesn't matter how you make them. The

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Speaker 1: only thing that matters is making them and putting a

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Speaker 1: lot of them together. You know, four, five, six, seven, eight,

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Speaker 1: whole stretches. We're just making pars. If the average golfer

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Speaker 1: because that's the mantra. JJ Spond didn't make a double

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Speaker 1: bogie for the entire week. Entire week, I'm gonna say

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Speaker 1: that again, did not make a double bogie for the

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Speaker 1: entire week. He may have been the only player with

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Speaker 1: that stat, Dude, there were a couple of I think

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Speaker 1: Bobby Mack didn't have one. So talk to me, RCI

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Speaker 1: about the way that the best players in the world

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Speaker 1: how the average golfer listening can take that strategy and

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Speaker 2: Well, I think what you don't see is the work

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, and nine hole practice rounds at Oakmont were

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Speaker 1: taken three and a half hours, right. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: there for well over sixss because once we got to

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Speaker 2: Because you're kind of guessing with the pins.

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Speaker 1: Are they know where? You know, everybody all the you

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Speaker 1: know DJ's brother Aj, I mean they won there in sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Aj had his book from sixteen, so he was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they had a pin here in sixteen, they had a

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Speaker 1: everyone here, or they'd go listen, they're probably gonna put

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Speaker 1: or three at the front and one at the back

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Speaker 1: or wherever. But my point behind that is we spent

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Speaker 2: To We're trying to figure out where to put it.

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Speaker 1: The other thing that I think is so helpful and

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Speaker 1: you can expand on this for everybody listening. Where do

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Speaker 1: you want to miss the golf ball? Go around your

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Speaker 1: home course, go out. We do this with our players,

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Speaker 1: you know, at a team float standpoint, but we actually

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Speaker 1: have them go out and you can talk about this. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you're in the middle of the fairway, Okay, don't hit

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Speaker 1: the green. Where's the easiest place to get it up

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Speaker 2: It's a great little game, mandatory miss.

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Speaker 1: Mandatory miss is the name of the game. And when

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Speaker 1: we do that game with juniors and people trying to play,

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Speaker 2: It's a great template to plan your tournament rounds. Basically,

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Speaker 2: find out where you need to go. Do I need

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Speaker 1: And then do the math accordingly and then say, okay,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the things that we always tell juniors

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Speaker 1: people listening to this, if every single hole on their

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Speaker 2: Professionals are always focused on where they wanted to go.

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Speaker 2: Amateurs seem to be always focused on what they want

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Speaker 2: to avoid.

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Speaker 1: That is a very interesting scenario because I went through

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Speaker 1: this back in Oh gosh, the Open that Tiger won

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Speaker 1: Immelman at the time, and I set up for Tred

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Speaker 1: wanted him to watch how Tiger and Stevie kind of

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Speaker 1: planned a practice round and so we got done. Neil

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Speaker 1: currently caddy in for Sergio Garcia. Neil caddied for Ernie

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Speaker 1: in two thousand, I think, and all those classic duels

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Speaker 2: get it in the fairway, minimize the chance to make

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Speaker 2: bogie lay up if you have to unapart four, figure

434
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Speaker 2: out ways to avoid the double. That's how you can

435
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Speaker 2: learn and minimize your mistakes and not necessarily break ninety.

436
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Speaker 2: But you have all the things in your control that

437
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Speaker 2: give you the opportunity to break ninety.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. We talk all the time about people whose goals

439
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Speaker 1: are to break one hundred and ninety eighty and seventy

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Speaker 1: for the first time. And I think being able to

441
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Speaker 1: adapt on the golf course is something that people don't

442
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Speaker 1: even think is helpful. When you're trying to you have

443
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Speaker 1: to be able to adapt.

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Speaker 2: Scottish chefer Pga scottis Cheffler adapted.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, snap hooking it off the tee. Every missus left

446
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Speaker 1: left left on the front nine and then I've talked

447
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Speaker 1: about it on the pod before, but then all the

448
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Speaker 1: misses are left. His caddy Teddy Scott says, hey, they're

449
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Speaker 1: good shots, they're solid shots, they're just left. Maybe we're

450
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Speaker 1: aiming over there, Maybe just aim a little bit more

451
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Speaker 1: to the right, and in three holes the tournament was over. Right.

452
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Speaker 1: But that is adapting, yes, on the golf course. And

453
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Speaker 1: I think so many people listening to this if if

454
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Speaker 1: you can just learn to adapt better to it, Okay,

455
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Speaker 1: Plan A, Plan B and then if things go really bad,

456
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Speaker 1: Plan C. So if a player was going to kind

457
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Speaker 1: of take the Formula one model and say, Okay, this

458
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Speaker 1: starts strategy for Plan A, this starts strategy for Plan B,

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Speaker 1: and then and super super contingent plan C, talk me

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Speaker 1: through what a Plan A strategy looks like, Plan B

461
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Speaker 1: and Plan C.

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Speaker 2: Right, So I would say plan A would be all

463
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Speaker 2: golf scenes are great, I'm hitting all my targets, I'm

464
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Speaker 2: making putts, let's go right.

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Speaker 1: For the majority of people listening to this podcast, that

466
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Speaker 1: probably rarely, if ever happens once around or once a year, man.

467
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Speaker 1: And for competitive players that are trying to play at

468
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Speaker 1: an elite competitive level, they will get into spells and

469
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Speaker 1: phases of their game and of their year to where Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean we hear players on tour saying that all

471
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Speaker 1: the time. Listen, Man, I didn't really my ball striking

472
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Speaker 1: wasn't where I really needed to be at the beginning

473
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Speaker 1: of the year, but I kind of found something and

474
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Speaker 1: then you know, kind of rode that through the summer

475
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Speaker 1: and really kind of turn things around. So Plan A

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Speaker 1: for most players is Okay, conditions are good, right, give

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Speaker 1: myself a lot of good looks you know, I'm hitting

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Speaker 1: it good on the range. My practice sessions would be

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Speaker 1: good on the range. So based off of that, my

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Speaker 1: plan A strategy would be what.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna admit this target aggressive swinging out a conservative target,

482
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Speaker 2: make sure on bulletproof, no mistakes. Off we go.

483
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Speaker 1: What does Plan B look like for the average golfer?

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Speaker 2: Plan B?

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Speaker 1: And I think plan B is where you should be living.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, somewhere between B and C probably most of the time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, the amount of people listening to this

488
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Speaker 1: podcast that are ever really going to have the necessary

489
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Speaker 1: tools to go to a plan A strategy is pretty small.

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Speaker 1: And that's not a diss that's not being disrespectful, that's

491
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Speaker 1: just math. That's just talent level. I think if you

492
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Speaker 1: can have a better and more honest opinion and a

493
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Speaker 1: more honest conversation with yourself as a player about what

494
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Speaker 1: my skill set is, what are the things that I

495
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Speaker 1: can do, what are the things I can't do? Stay

496
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Speaker 1: away from the things that I can't do, and try

497
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Speaker 1: and ride and dear the ship towards the shore of

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Speaker 1: the things that I can do.

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Speaker 2: Right, So plan B looks like this, what are the

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Speaker 2: conditions and the course that typically create a big mess

501
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Speaker 2: up for me. Water left, what club do I hit?

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Speaker 2: It doesn't seem to go left that often. Okay, is

503
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Speaker 2: it a hybrid? I don't care how far it goes.

504
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Speaker 2: Is it a hybrid? Is it my driver? Right? So

505
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Speaker 2: the plan B is basically what does it take to

506
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Speaker 2: be in the right center of this fairway and either

507
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Speaker 2: off the tee or on my second shot if I

508
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Speaker 2: miss the fairway, that's plan B. Plan B is you

509
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Speaker 2: have a built in layup back on plan on the

510
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Speaker 2: right side of the golf hole to avoid the trouble

511
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Speaker 2: right happens, whatever the trouble is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that I liked what you said.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you think about a plan A strategy,

514
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Speaker 1: a plan B and a plan.

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Speaker 2: C, plan B is that you have a built in

516
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Speaker 2: pitch out right and if you can still get yourself

517
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Speaker 2: on the green in three on approferable.

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Speaker 1: Getting into the mindset of kind of game planning between

519
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Speaker 1: plan B and plan C, because I think what everybody

520
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Speaker 1: does across the board is just go for plan A.

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Speaker 1: Plan A is I'm hitting it great, right, I'm gonna

522
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Speaker 1: hit every fairway, I'm gonna hit every green, I'm gonna

523
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Speaker 1: have legit birdy chances on all the par fives, you know,

524
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Speaker 1: all of that stuff that is just not a reality,

525
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Speaker 1: I'd say for ninety five percent of the people that

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Speaker 1: play this sport, right, So, no, Plan B.

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Speaker 2: To me is what side of the hole do I

528
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Speaker 2: need to be on? And can I get myself over

529
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Speaker 2: there and not just one shot but maybe it requires

530
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Speaker 2: two shots? And then plant C is okay, not much

531
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Speaker 2: is working. What can I do? Plants is tough. However,

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Speaker 2: Plant C has hope because hope is basically you've got

533
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Speaker 2: to wait and be patient with all the plans essentially.

534
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Speaker 2: But Plant C is I've got to wait. I can't

535
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Speaker 2: let my playing partner distract me from hitting this particular shot,

536
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Speaker 2: where I can't react to my competitor hitting this particular shot.

537
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Speaker 2: I need to be on this particular side of the whole,

538
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Speaker 2: no matter matter what, And it doesn't matter what the

539
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Speaker 2: shot looks like. Is it a hybrid, is the three wood?

540
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Speaker 2: Is it a six iron? Put me on this side

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Speaker 2: of the hole.

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Speaker 1: I went and saw the New f One movie the

543
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Speaker 1: other night, and Brad Pitt's character says too, they're in

544
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Speaker 1: a team meeting and he was into one of the

545
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: other drivers, the other drivers talking about all the things

546
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Speaker 1: that they hoped would happen in great line that One

547
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Speaker 1: of the big takeaways for me is Brad Pitt's character said,

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Speaker 1: hope is not a strategy. And I think a lot

549
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Speaker 1: of people go out and they hope that they do

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Speaker 1: this and they hope that they do that, and that's

551
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Speaker 1: not a strategy. It's not a way to lower your scores.

552
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Speaker 1: So having realistic expecition, I mean I talk about this

553
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: a lot on the pod arc. How do we get

554
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: people to have more realistic expectations with their own game?

555
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: Where do you think that starts? How do we help

556
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: players have more realistic expectations and evaluations of what they do?

557
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Speaker 2: One thing for sure, as we beat the shit out

558
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Speaker 2: of them in practice, we make practice super hard and

559
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Speaker 2: they can't move on to the next task until they

560
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 2: can put it the first desk.

561
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Speaker 1: So you think task driven practice is a great way

562
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Speaker 1: to have a more realistic approach or a realistic evaluation

563
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Speaker 1: of what your skill set is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, task driven and also time driven too. So given

565
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Speaker 2: someone talking me through that, given someone five minutes to

566
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Speaker 2: complete let's say six particular puts made on the grin.

567
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Speaker 1: Did you see that one on Instagram the other day,

568
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Speaker 1: the impossible putt one where the guy put the teas

569
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Speaker 1: up and not you know, you could do this at

570
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Speaker 1: any length. But find a putt that's you know, got

571
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Speaker 1: some brek on it and then walk out. You know,

572
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Speaker 1: you could start from your ball. You could start two

573
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: steps away, right, put a tea down and then put

574
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Speaker 1: your foot down and wherever your toe is, put another

575
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Speaker 1: tea down and do that, and do that and do

576
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Speaker 1: that right, and it was okay, putt that breaks a lot.

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Speaker 1: And then those are gates, right, So let's say you've

578
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Speaker 1: got five, six, seven gates that you've got to put

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Speaker 1: it through on a left right put that's got a

580
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Speaker 1: lot of slope, right to left put that's got lot

581
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Speaker 1: of slope. But you've only got thirty minutes to do it.

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Speaker 1: So the thirty minute thing puts you under what you're

583
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Speaker 1: going to feel on the golf course, right, because trying

584
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: to replicate the feeling of okay. And I think the

585
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Speaker 1: time gap and the time limit in these type of

586
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Speaker 1: drills when you practice one, if you're running out of

587
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: time and you've got to produce or perform, it teaches

588
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Speaker 1: you how, okay, what is my reset here, I'm running

589
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: out of time, okay, a couple of deep breasts.

590
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Speaker 2: Reset Refocus teaches you how to have that tactical pause

591
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Speaker 2: the way the quarterback slows the game down and kind

592
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Speaker 2: of teaches you to kind of have that reset tactical pause.

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Speaker 1: We have to have the podcast before. But for people

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Speaker 1: that aren't listening, you talk about this a lot. I

595
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Speaker 1: know you're, you know, a huge fan of trying to

596
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Speaker 1: help the military and our troops and stuff like that.

597
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Speaker 1: But what is a tactical pause?

598
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Speaker 2: Technical pause is basically, you go find some cover and

599
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 2: kneel down so you don't get shot.

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Speaker 1: So give me an example of where you're going to

601
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Speaker 1: be in a situation from a military standpoint, where you

602
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: would need to take a tactical pause.

603
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe you're the story that Captain Richards told us.

604
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: You know, you're you're taking a terrorist inside a city

605
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Speaker 2: and there's a sniper that you never accounted for. Tactical

606
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 2: pause means you go run for covering and assess the situation.

607
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 2: A normal army group may try to attack that sniper

608
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 2: because they took out the leader. A special Forces Army

609
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 2: group would backtrack and try to assess and get back

610
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 2: on the mission. So for a golfer, that tactical pause

611
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: could actually literally be a kneel down at your back

612
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 2: and just saying what do I need to do to

613
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Speaker 2: get out of this situation? And it's just like either

614
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: a ten second breathe, one minute hold wait for the

615
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: other players to hit. It's just basically a reset.

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Speaker 1: A lot of times on tour, guys will hit the

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Speaker 1: portage right, they'll go, they'll hit their drive. Things aren't

618
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: going well, and they'll go off by themselves. They'll go

619
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Speaker 1: to the portage on you know, on the course, and

620
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,479
Speaker 1: sometimes they don't have to do anything there. They just

621
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: need that kind of break. And the portagehn is kind

622
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: of it symbolizes Okay, I'm gonna go somewhere else, probably

623
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: isn't gonna be very nice, right, shut the door and

624
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: stand there for thirty secs and to just kind of

625
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: go okay, what am I doing here? And reevaluate and

626
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: then say okay. Because that's basically what JJ spawn got

627
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: in the rain delay at the US Open and Oakmod

628
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Speaker 1: he got a tactical pause. There was a time to

629
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Speaker 1: where they were talking about on tour there and I

630
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: talked to Gary Cooke about this when I had him

631
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Speaker 1: on the pod. Sometimes you shelter in place. And the

632
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Speaker 1: one thing about the weather at Oakmont is they when

633
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Speaker 1: we were there, we would get the alerts from the

634
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: guys when we were on the course. There's no electricity

635
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: in the air, there's no lightning, so this rainstorm is

636
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: only gonna be you know, ten, fifteen, five, whatever. But

637
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: sometimes they'll say, listen, just shelter in place, everybody, stay

638
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: on the course. We're not gonna pull everybody off because

639
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: this is gonna blow through in five, ten minutes, right,

640
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. But they pulled everybody off the golf course

641
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,719
Speaker 1: and then kept getting rolling updates, rolling updates, and then

642
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: everybody got a chance to warm back up. But that

643
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: is the definition of a tactical pause. That rained delight. Now,

644
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: that tactical pause seemed to help JJ spawn for some

645
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: of these and we seem to not help Scutty and

646
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Speaker 1: Sam Burns.

647
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Speaker 2: Right. Tough break for those guys too, if they had

648
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 2: any momentum before that rain. Right.

649
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: But I do think most golfers listening, you know, find

650
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Speaker 1: out what your tactical pause is. Right.

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Speaker 2: Every sport has a time out, except for golf and

652
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Speaker 2: golfers tend to rush through it, right, and.

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Speaker 1: A great I think tactical pause could be for everyone listening.

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Speaker 1: Let's say you're at home and you're on a on

655
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: the bogie train and you've gone bogie bogie double and stuff,

656
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Speaker 1: and you're playing, you're riding in carts. To me, the

657
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Speaker 1: tactical palls would be, Okay.

658
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna walk to the next shot.

659
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna walk to the next shot, and everybody else

660
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: is gonna go, and I'm probably going to be the

661
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: last to hit because obviously you're not trying to hold

662
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,439
Speaker 1: up play and all of that. Say to everybody, Hey,

663
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna walk to the next hole. I just

664
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Speaker 1: hit my t shot. You guys go, Hey, I'll get

665
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: there when I get there. You guys go ahead and play.

666
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: You guys play ready golf. So when you get up

667
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Speaker 1: there and you're ready to go, go and I'll get

668
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: there when I get there. But that walk, either from

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Speaker 1: the tee to your approach shot, or from your approach

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Speaker 1: shot to the green, or from the green to the

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Speaker 1: next tee, just that kind of reset on your own

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Speaker 1: could be your tactical pause.

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Speaker 2: Sure that time out you're looking for it yeah, the

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Speaker 2: game down.

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Speaker 1: I've never thought about that. We're the only sport where

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Speaker 1: there isn't a time out, but there's also an enormous

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Speaker 1: amount of time in.

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Speaker 2: Between shots right to it effectively.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that time between shots, how do you think

680
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: everyone listening ORC could use that time better? And in

681
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: that time what should they be doing? Because there's two

682
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: ways of thinking about this, right, you can try and

683
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Speaker 1: turn your brain off, which is what I think the

684
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: best players in the world are trying to do. I

685
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: remember when in seventeen when Brooks won his first US

686
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: opened at Aaron Hills. It's on the back nine, I

687
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: think it was fourteen, really really difficult shot. Pin was

688
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: kind of tucked back right, you know, cut very very

689
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,919
Speaker 1: close to the right edge. You missed it to the right,

690
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: you've fallen off a mountain ro off, you're gonna make

691
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 1: bogie or double right. And nobody is hitting it anywhere

692
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: close to that flag. And Brooks stood up and I

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Speaker 1: think it was Brad Faxon. You know, it was just marveled.

694
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Speaker 1: He was just left of the pin, hit it inside

695
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: of fifteen to ten feet and the announcers like, wow,

696
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: nobody's hit it there right when they were walking up

697
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: to that shot, I asked Brooks afterwards, what were you

698
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Speaker 1: guys talking about it? He was like, we're actually talking

699
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Speaker 1: about where we were going to stay when we went

700
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Speaker 1: to ty Land in the offseason. And He's like, we

701
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: were talking about so much that when we got to

702
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: the ball, we were kind of in conversation trying to

703
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Speaker 1: win the US Open on the back nine on Sunday

704
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: and we're not even talking about golf. So tour players

705
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: are trying to not think about golf right right when

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Speaker 1: they're on the golf course in competition, whereas I think

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00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 1: the average golfer needs to use that time in between

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00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: shots to think more about what they're trying to do,

709
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: think more about what their intent is, make a plan

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Speaker 1: for the next shot.

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Speaker 2: I've got a few players that basically the Sabin has

712
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 2: the twenty four hour rule golf, when you're the twenty

713
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Speaker 2: four second rule, so you have twenty four seconds.

714
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: To what is the nick Saban twenty four hours.

715
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Speaker 2: You have twenty four hours to think about the last

716
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 2: game because we got six days into the next game

717
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 2: and then you gotta let it go. So in golf,

718
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 2: it's like you got the twenty four second rule, you

719
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: got twenty four seconds to kind of evaluate that last shot,

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Speaker 2: and off you go, clubs in the bag boom. But

721
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Speaker 2: the other thing I have a few players do, not

722
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 2: all of them, is just write down something positive about

723
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 2: each shot. And that might take like a minute or two,

724
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 2: but that's a good minute of thinking, Okay, maybe I

725
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 2: had a good routine. Maybe that's the shape that I

726
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 2: was looking for, and maybe that was a fly. Whatever

727
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 2: was something positive that you can write down, put it

728
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 2: in the notes, scorecard wherever it is, and you can

729
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 2: take that sentiment into the next shot. It takes maybe

730
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Speaker 2: a minute, and then maybe there's two minutes between each shot,

731
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Speaker 2: and now you have a kind of a fresh mindset.

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Speaker 2: You came up with something positive, even though you maybe

733
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Speaker 2: missed the actual shot. There has to be something positive

734
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Speaker 2: that you can draw out of the last shot, and

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00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 2: you've got twenty four seconds to evaluate it and maybe

736
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Speaker 2: a minute to come up with your positive thought.

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Speaker 1: I meant to send this to you the other day.

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Speaker 1: I saw something online Roger Federer's fifteen second rule.

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Speaker 2: Yep, have you seen this the fifteen second Yeah? Yeah,

740
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 2: so so just from the speech, the.

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Speaker 1: Fifteen seconds, so zero to five seconds, reflect on the

742
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: previous point. So try to take a deep breath, look

743
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: back at what happened, who won the point and why,

744
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: so what happened on the shot and why? Right, he's

745
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: trying to take five seconds to that. What the average

746
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: golfer does is they just get stuck into the bad shot,

747
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: the bad shot, the bad shot, the bad position. So

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Speaker 1: then that's zero to five seconds, and then five to

749
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Speaker 1: ten seconds focus on relaxation. Federer said that this was

750
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: the most important part. Right, walks around to the towel. Again,

751
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: that's the tactical The five to ten seconds is the

752
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: tactical reset, breathing techniques to kind of relax his mind

753
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: and everything like that. And then next phase was prefare

754
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: for what's next. So ten to fifteen seconds is okay,

755
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: what's the next point? Often reflecting on a tactical change.

756
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: Fifteen seconds okay, so what just happened? All right? All right,

757
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: let me just kind of reset. My dad used to

758
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: say to Tiger, he'd give them it was either five

759
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: or ten steps, right, make a double for five to

760
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: ten steps you can. I'm not advocating this for everyone listening,

761
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: but my dad was like, don't carry it to the

762
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Speaker 1: next hole, So get it out. If that means you've

763
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 1: got to scream, if that means you've got to bang

764
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: a club, if it means you've got to kick. I'm

765
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: not advocating all of that, but get it out so

766
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: that you're not carrying it to the next hole. And

767
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: so coming up with I mean, for Roger Federer, of

768
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: fifteen seconds is probably lot. But use that time in

769
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 1: between shots to say, Okay, I've just did a bad shot.

770
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: Do I have any ideas to what just happened? Right? Right? Okay?

771
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: If the answer is yes, okay, what's my plan now?

772
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: And let me go execute that plan? Right?

773
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: These professional offers are so good between chats it's it's crazy.

774
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 2: It's the complete player. Right. We had Matthew Vaughan last

775
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 2: year talk about how he won Tory Pines, how he

776
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 2: was reading his journal, his little inspirational quotes before every shot.

777
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 2: It's all these players, all these great players have these

778
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 2: hacks between shots that we never get to hear about.

779
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, they write stuff down in their yardage book. They're

780
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 1: sports psychologists, or their coach will give them something to

781
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: keep repeating. All of that. But again, going back to

782
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: what we talked about, it's all of that is intentional. Right.

783
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: All of that is what am I going to try

784
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: to plan to do as opposed to I'm going to

785
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 1: try and not hit the iceberg yep, instead of I'm

786
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: going to do everything in my planning to make sure

787
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: we don't come anywhere near icebergs, right, and if we

788
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: do get into an ice field in a ship and everything.

789
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: This is the contingency plot. But everything about charting, I mean,

790
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: I've talked about this on the pod. That kid that

791
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: we had for Teamflow, whose dad was a pilot for

792
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: Norse Airways, right Airline, He showed me once flight from

793
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: Norway to Miami. The book was seventy almost eighty pages

794
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: long of all of the things that could go wrong,

795
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: all the contingency plans, and based off of all of

796
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: that information, everything was planned. So if this happens, we

797
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: do this. If that happens, we do that. If that happens,

798
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: we go there. If the weather it comes this, we

799
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,959
Speaker 1: do this everything. But all of that is intentional, right.

800
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: The checklist for a pilot before they fly, all of

801
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: that is intentional making sure everything is working. They do

802
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: that religiously every time they fly. And I just think

803
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: more intent and more planning is a way.

804
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 2: Versus kind of reacting, especially reacting emotionally to the next shot.

805
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: How can players not RCI give us some tools to

806
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: not react emotionally because it's just so hard to do

807
00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: that on the golf course.

808
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: It's hard. It takes time, you know you even.

809
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: It takes practice and intent. I mean, I think it's

810
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: a choice. I mean, if you're on the bogie train

811
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: and on the front nine and you just start pushing

812
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: all in and going for every shot and all that,

813
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: that is a choice as a player you're making. You

814
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: are making a choice. You've had three or four drinks

815
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: and you are making the choice to drive. Yep, right,

816
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: So that is a choice you're making. So when you

817
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: get pulled over and you're getting the back of a car,

818
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: don't be surprised because that's the choice you made. And

819
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: you end up in a jail cell because you chose

820
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: to drink and then you chose to Nobody forced you

821
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 1: to drive. You can leave your car, you can take

822
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: an uber, you come back and get it. You know

823
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: you're not fit to drive, So I look a lot

824
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: of course management right now, Like people that get in

825
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, if you get a DUI you deserve

826
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 1: one you can find. I mean back in the day,

827
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: I mean taxis were hard to find. Now pretty much

828
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: every city you live in there's gonna be some sort

829
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,479
Speaker 1: of ride share that you can get. So just plan

830
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: accordingly and go Okay, I've had too much to drink.

831
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: I've gotten off to the bad start. I'm not now

832
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 1: going to go do something even more dumb now and

833
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: put myself at risk and put other people at risk.

834
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 2: Right the choices are simply basically thought replacements. If you

835
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: are angry over the shot, you have to switch it

836
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 2: to what can I learn from the shot? Or switch

837
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 2: it to okay, curiosity why was I so off on

838
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 2: that chat? And so being able to flip those takes practice.

839
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: But I think having the mindset before you even get

840
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 2: to the course that I'm gonna learn from something today.

841
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 2: Every round I play is a win and I'm not

842
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,240
Speaker 2: getting shot at, I'm not getting hurt. I'm playing golf.

843
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 2: Every round is a win, and you're gonna play well,

844
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 2: I'm gonna learn something about myself if you put that

845
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,720
Speaker 2: and to play that kind of sets the stage to

846
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 2: control those control those emotions.

847
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: I always say to tour players every competitive round of

848
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: golf you play is an opportunity for you to learn

849
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: something about yourself and learn something about your game. Yeah,

850
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: and the best players in the world adapt, they accept

851
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 1: what they have, they're honest with themselves, and then based

852
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,720
Speaker 1: off of that they form a game plan tournament golf.

853
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 1: What's a good game plan for tournament golf for a

854
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: course that you've never played before?

855
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,240
Speaker 2: A game plan going into it. Yeah, variety of apps

856
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,439
Speaker 2: out there to look at the course from a GPS prepared.

857
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: Google maps, like if you don't want to, if you

858
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: don't want to subscribe to an app that can, you know,

859
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of them. Marcos has the eighteen Burns

860
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: eighteen Bird's right. You can go and look at all

861
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 1: the courts you're gonna play. It can kind of plot

862
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: where you know, you can drag something. It's gonna tell

863
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: you if you drive here, you're gonna have that. So

864
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: golf for dummies. If you don't have that, go online,

865
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: find a scorecard from the course that you're gonna play,

866
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: and then go to the website and then go to

867
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: Google Maps or Google Earth and go and look and

868
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: then go, Okay, we're probably going to be playing the

869
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: golf course from this distance. If I'm playing it from

870
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: this tee, how far is this hole? I tend to

871
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: average drive. Be honest with yourself. I average drive it.

872
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: My drives kind of average around to You know, when

873
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: I go play golf, I average two thirty to two

874
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: forty off the tee. If I really really bust one,

875
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,439
Speaker 1: you know, when I'm swinging really good and my body's good,

876
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: I can get one out there to eighty to ninety.

877
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: But I don't live in that world. So I live

878
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: in kind of the two twenty five to two fifty

879
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: at a push off the tee. So be honest with Okay,

880
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: if I really tattoo one, if I'm a twenty five

881
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: handicapper and I really hit one good, center of the face,

882
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: hit the fair way. On the high end, my ball

883
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: goes this far, and on the low end it goes here.

884
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: If I hit it really bad and kind of I

885
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: have a lot of drives that kind of go this

886
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: far right. Go to Google Maps, look at the scorecard

887
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: that's where you're gonna play from, and then say, okay, yeah,

888
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: I'm probably going to hit on this hole. I'm probably

889
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: going to get it here. That's probably going to leave

890
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: me this shot ye and this distance, And then I

891
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: talked about this on the podcast.

892
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 2: I was gonna say that nowadays, there's really no excuse

893
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 2: not to have some sort of plan going into a tournament. Yeah,

894
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 2: and that could be this the normal tournament, remember guest,

895
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 2: that could be the club championship where that could be

896
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 2: a major tournament.

897
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: We did this in Singapore when and I talked about

898
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: it after DJ had a chance to win, was in

899
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 1: the final group on LIV. We knew, we got all

900
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: of the recent course data scoring, and so we pretty

901
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: much knew that the majority of the iron shots that

902
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: DJ was going to have for that week was going

903
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: to be from this yardage to this yardage yep. And

904
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: then basically we spent that week just looking at Okay,

905
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: let's say it was he was gonna have a lot

906
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: of shots from one seventy five to twenty five, one

907
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: fifty to whatever. So if you know that going in,

908
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: and you know you're going to be playing that tournament,

909
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: then just go dial in those numbers and say, Okay,

910
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit a lot of shots in practice with

911
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: the clubs that I know. I've looked at the course.

912
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: It's a course I can hit a lot of drivers on. Okay,

913
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: it's a course I can't hit a lot of drivers on.

914
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to be hitting three woods. I'm going to

915
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: be hitting hybrids or irons off the tee. Look at

916
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: the par threes and say, okay, how far are these

917
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: par threes. You can kind of gauge which teas you're

918
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: going to play off of. So, okay, the four par

919
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: threes on this golf course are kind of all going

920
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: to be in this area. So let me practice that

921
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: and get ready.

922
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 2: Right, we'd like to take care of the par fives,

923
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: so we got to make sure we make par better

924
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 2: than the purfives. And so if you're at the longest center,

925
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 2: let's plan three just playing three shots four part fives.

926
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 2: That's going to be four easy chances and possible legit

927
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 2: birdy chances. There's probably going to be one shortest par

928
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 2: three one p fifty could be the shortest, which might

929
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 2: be a seven nine or eight arn. And there's probably

930
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 2: going to be two par fours that are probably one

931
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 2: on each side. That's the shortest par four into the nine.

932
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 2: So we're looking at almost eight holes, nine holes that

933
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 2: if you just play are scorable, that are scorable.

934
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: And if scorable for everyone listening. Scorable is par Scorable

935
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: is for the majority of the people listening to this podcast.

936
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 1: When we're talking about scorable, that is making parts. It's

937
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: not making birdies and eagles because most of us just

938
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 1: don't have those tools in the toolbox.

939
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 2: Right, So we're looking at least eight almost auto parts,

940
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 2: So that leaves maybe nine or ten holes that will

941
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 2: be an expected challenge, and that'll be the key to

942
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 2: the tournament round is how to we handle those nine

943
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 2: to ten holes.

944
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: I love that term. Look at your home course that

945
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: you play all the time, and look at what you

946
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: would deem are the auto pars, meaning the holes that

947
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: maybe don't have water, that don't have out of bounds

948
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 1: that give you room off the tee, that are big

949
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: greens that don't have Look at the holes and say, okay,

950
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: my auto pars on my home course are these holes?

951
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: So this is the holes where I'm really really focused

952
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 1: on making pars.

953
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,919
Speaker 2: Right. That's almost a half of the course.

954
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: Again. That's JJ spawn on Saturday at the US Open

955
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,720
Speaker 1: on one of the toughest, if not the toughest tests

956
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: in professional major championship golf. On Saturday five through sixteen,

957
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: all pars. That is so hard to do, but it

958
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: also requires a tremendous am amount of planning and a

959
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: tremendous amount of intent as well. Hey, I've just got

960
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: to write the ship now. And that's the other thing.

961
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: When things go bad, just try to stop the ship

962
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:16,760
Speaker 1: from sinking, right, and just limit the damage.

963
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 2: Keep the race car on the track, Keep the race.

964
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: Car on the track, move over to the slow lane,

965
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: get out of the fast lane, control the car a

966
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: little bit better, and say, listen, I'm just going to

967
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: try and not beat myself yep, for the next five

968
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: to nine holes, for the next hour. I'm just going

969
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,720
Speaker 1: to try and have really good intent, really good focus,

970
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: really good game plan. That's not to say you're gonna

971
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 1: pull it off, but I would much rather have players,

972
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 1: wouldn't you agree or see? I would much rather have

973
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:52,720
Speaker 1: players fail the game plan then have no game plan

974
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: and fail anyway.

975
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 2: Right, I have a score that's full failure because we

976
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,720
Speaker 2: had no plan or no proactive plan going into those holes.

977
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: Auto pars that is.

978
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's say it's three point fifty par four maybe less.

979
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 1: The short par fours on your home course. If there's

980
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: not a ton of trouble if they're not super super demanding.

981
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,760
Speaker 1: And again, the majority of people listening to the pod

982
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: aren't playing championship caliber golf courses, so they are going

983
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: to get short par fours on their home course that

984
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 1: aren't short par fours with ob left and water right,

985
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: a tiny green rolling fourteen with a bunch of undulation

986
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: and a shelf at the back and bunkers and thick

987
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: rough So if you don't take anything away from this podcast,

988
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: find the auto pars. That to me is the hack

989
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: that can really start to have you think differently about

990
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: your rounds.

991
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's probably six, seven, maybe eight of them.

992
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 1: Are see great stuff. We'll keep doing this because I

993
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: think this combination of technique and execution is to me,

994
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: the execution part of this is the lowest hanging fruit

995
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: because you can control the execution part.

996
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,919
Speaker 2: All we talk about is how you play, and that's

997
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 2: executing those shots and those strategies. Whether your technique is

998
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 2: working that day or not, most likely not, you have

999
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 2: to be able to still overcome and adapt to those

1000
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 2: situations out there.

1001
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,760
Speaker 1: Scottie Scheffler didn't have his best off at the PGA

1002
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 1: and still one. Scotti Scheffler didn't have his best off

1003
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: at the US Open was still top ten and had

1004
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: a chance to win, so you're not always going to

1005
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 1: have your best stop. Can't thank everybody enough for listening, rate, review,

1006
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Son of a Bunch,

1007
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 1: we will see you next week.