1 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: A Walk and I played that show with my dad 2 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: at fifteen and that was for the three thousand people, 3 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: and that was that was just a spiritual experience where, 4 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: you know, I just thought that if this is what 5 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: it feels like to be in tavern every day, this 6 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: is how I want to feel, because I had never 7 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: felt anything like that in my life. And you know, 8 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: to be able to play next to my dad, you know, 9 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: it's just like, wow, this is something I've never experienced. 10 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Taking a Walk Podcast, the podcast where 11 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: your host Buzznight talks with musicians and gets the insight 12 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 2: scoop on moments in music history. On this virtual episode, 13 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 2: the greatest female drummer of all time, Sheila E, joins 14 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: Buzz Night. Sheila has new music and talks about the 15 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: creation of it, and she also dips back into her 16 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 2: career talking about the greatest night in pop, the recording 17 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: of We Are the World, and also her career with Prince. 18 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 2: Here's Buzz Night and Sheila E on Taking a Walk. 19 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: Hi, Sheila, it's so nice to have you on my 20 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 3: Taking a Walk podcast. 21 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: Thank you nice to be here. 22 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 3: We would like to be in person taking a Walk, 23 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 3: but we'll accept virtual now where are you at this moment. 24 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: I'm in Los Angeles, tremendous. 25 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 3: Well, I want to congratulate you on your new project, 26 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 3: which we want to talk about. It sounds so exciting 27 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 3: with the legendary Gloria Estefan, two legends, Sheila E and Gloria. 28 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 3: Are you excited about the project? 29 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: Beyond excited? I'm beyond excited. This project has taken me 30 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: almost two years to finish, and I'm just so honored 31 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 1: to be able to do this. I mean literally, because 32 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: I think this is probably one of the best albums 33 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: I've done. With the help of Tony Sukar who co 34 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: produced this record with me, and he did an incredible 35 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: job getting the musicians together and the arrangements and it's 36 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: just amazing what he's done. So I'm really excited about 37 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: this project. I mean, this is something that's been on 38 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: the back burner for a very long time up to now. 39 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: It's taken a while, but a lot of people can't 40 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: believe it's my first ever sols the record, but it 41 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: is because I've done so many records and there's tons 42 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: of music that I have, but this is something really 43 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: special and true to my heart that it took a 44 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: lot to do, so we're excited about it. 45 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 3: Tell me about the collapseative process that took shape here 46 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 3: for this project. 47 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 48 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: So, Tony Sukar I met many, many years ago and 49 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: he was doing a project Assaults, a tribute to Michael 50 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: Jackson for PBS. I was like, oh my god, the 51 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: arrangements and the musicians. I said, if I do a 52 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: salsa record, I want to do it with you. And 53 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: that's how it started. Then two years later with Biden. 54 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: Then finally we got together two years later after that 55 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: and and here we are now. But the collaborative effort 56 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: on doing this project. I kind of knew what I 57 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: wanted to do in a sense as far as doing 58 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: a couple of cover songs, I only wanted to do 59 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: maybe three, and those three songs were people that were 60 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: very influential in in my life, which was cell You 61 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: Cruz and that is this next single called Bembacoloda that 62 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: features Gloria Stefan and Mimi Sukar. The other song that 63 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: I did was Tito Puente song called El Rey del 64 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: timbald and that was with Hiberto Santa rosa amazing singer, 65 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: and he came and did that song with me. And 66 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: then the last cover song was is called Anacona by 67 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:23,799 Speaker 1: us Chelle Feliciano and like Finial All Stars That Vibe 68 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: and Ruben Blade saying that song. It's just been amazing 69 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: to be able to have these artists like this on 70 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: this record because they're the ones that are still doing 71 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: this music and this music. I want the young people 72 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: to understand what this music is about and the richness 73 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: of it as and the culture in the community that 74 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 1: comes with this music. And it's just amazing to be 75 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: able to represent the people in the community with this music. 76 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: So it's very firing and humbling at the same time. 77 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 3: Can I tell you something, Sheila, When you speak Spanish, 78 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 3: it puts a smile on my face. 79 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: Oh, thank you so much. I'm still learning. 80 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 3: It sounds so beautiful when you speak Spanish. 81 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:17,679 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. 82 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 3: So take me back to that moment when you were 83 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 3: five years old, five years old and you had your 84 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 3: first public performance in front of three thousand people. What 85 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 3: was that experience like, Well, it was. 86 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: With my dad. My dad had a band called the 87 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: Escavito Brothers with his other two brothers, and this actual 88 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: performance wasn't three thousand. That was the other one when 89 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: I was fifteen with my dad, but this one was 90 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: more like, you know, three hundred people, and it was 91 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 1: in a place called the Sam's Ballroom and it was 92 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: in downtown Oakland, and my mom took me there because 93 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: my dad wanted me to sit in and play with him. 94 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: So I remember getting dressed with at my grandmother's house 95 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: and my mom putting all my new clothes to go 96 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: perform with my dad. And I remember going into the 97 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: venue and hearing my dad's music from the street, and 98 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: when we got to the top, they opened the door 99 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: and I saw these people. I was like, Wow, this 100 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 1: place is big, this is huge. And next thing, you know, 101 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: my dad introduces, you know, my wife just walked in 102 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: and my daughter's here, Sheila, She's going to perform with us. 103 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: So I just remember walking to the stage and my 104 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: dad lifting me up to the stage and putting me 105 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: on a chair so that I could play the Congress. 106 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 1: And I don't remember playing. I remember more getting dressed 107 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: in my new outfit than I did performing. 108 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 3: Now, was that the moment though, that really cemented it 109 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 3: for you that you would be a musician? 110 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: No, that wasn't until I was fifteen when I played 111 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: that other show with my dad at fifteen, and that 112 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: was for the three thousand people, and that was that 113 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: was just a spiritual experience where you know, I just 114 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: thought that if this is what it feels like to 115 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: be in heaven every day, this is how I want 116 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: to feel, because I never felt anything like that in 117 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: my life. And you know, to be able to play 118 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: next to my dad and at that time he was 119 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: assigned to Clive Davis with an eighteen piece band, you know, 120 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: it's just like, wow, this is something I've never experienced 121 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: and wanted to do it every single day. And two 122 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: weeks later went out on tour with my dad and 123 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: never looked back. That was the beginning of my career. 124 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 3: That's tremendous. Tell me about the impact to you that 125 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 3: the musician George Duke had on you, and tell our 126 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 3: audience those that don't know who George Duke is. I do, 127 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 3: but tell our audience about him and the impact that 128 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 3: he made on you. 129 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, George Duke I met early on in the seventies 130 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: as well. He was an amazing musician, artist, piano player, singer, songwriter, 131 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: and he was from San Francisco and I met him 132 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: through Billy Cobham, who was an amazing drummer who actually 133 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: uh produced my Dad and I our first record ever. 134 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:30,559 Speaker 1: And so I met George through through Billy Cobham, and 135 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: with George Duke, I ended up going out on tour 136 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: with him. After I played with my dad, I went 137 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 1: out on tour with George, which was my next biggest 138 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: tour ever. And George h played different types of music 139 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: and which was amazing because I was he allowed me 140 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: to grow as a musician and an artist. Being in 141 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 1: that band musically, I learned so much. It was incredible 142 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: what I learned with him. Besides my dad, George Duke 143 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: was very influential in my life. He played funk music, 144 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: but he played jazz, Brazilian Latin jazz, gospel music, R 145 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: and B. He did everything, and his musicianship, the caliber 146 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: of music that he had written throughout his years was 147 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: incredible and also producing so many artists. So it was 148 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: just a joy and an honor to be able to 149 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: play with him most of my life. 150 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 3: Do you feel to some degree that his work is 151 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 3: not recognized enough? 152 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely? Yeah, yeah, No, I feel that way absolutely. Again, 153 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: It's so hard that I kind of had the same 154 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: situation happened to me being a solo artist, Like the 155 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: record company says to you, well, we have to put 156 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: you in a category, so we have to categorize where 157 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: you're going. And I'm like, but you can't because I'm 158 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: not just signing as an R and B artist. But 159 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: that's just not who I I am. As I'm many things, 160 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: you know, and trying to explain that to the record 161 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: company is very challenging. And I think that George had 162 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 1: the same issue because he did so many different types 163 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: of music. You know, he did Brazilian movies, so he 164 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: put out a Brazilian album, then he did an R 165 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: and B album, which was a funk album, and then 166 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: you know, it's just so many different things and it's 167 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: hard to It's almost like the industry does not allow 168 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: us to be more than one thing. And it's being 169 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,599 Speaker 1: in the Bay Area. Being from the Bay Area, we 170 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 1: listen to so many different genres of music and we 171 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: create with all of that influence, and that makes us 172 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: who we are, and that's the Bay Area. So you 173 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: can't just be one because that's not who we are. 174 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: And I think that that's the downfall of the music industry, 175 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: is not allowing us to be all of who we are. 176 00:10:55,440 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 3: Tell me about the challenges of female faces in the 177 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 3: music industry. 178 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: The challenges are never ending. I mean the beginning for 179 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: me was more of no one had really seen a 180 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: woman play a percussion uh, and even maybe drums. Uh. 181 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: So you know, I'd walk into a room and the 182 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: drummer would be at his kid and I would go 183 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: in to check my percussion instruments. And when I walk 184 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: into a room, the guy would say, excuse me, can 185 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: you give me a cup of coffee? And I'm like why, 186 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I can, but I'm not the receptionist. If 187 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: that's who you think I am. I don't work here. 188 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: Oh okay, well, and I'm like I'm the percussion player, 189 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: Like what what do you mean? And it's always like 190 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: girls don't play percussion, Well yeah I do. So it's 191 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: it was a thing at the beginning, like wow, you 192 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: know uh. And so even the different ways of you know, 193 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: trying to get your music out there, and every it 194 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: comes to a point again with men, oh yeah, well 195 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: you know you're great. But you know what, I'll give 196 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: you these offers. You know, if you would be with 197 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: me and I can get you to big places like 198 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: you know, just different things like that. It was very challenging, 199 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: and then not wanting to pay us what we're worth. 200 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: Even there's two other percussion players. They're making more money 201 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 1: than you are, but because they're male, they're going to 202 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: make more money. It's all of those things. But the 203 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: challenges are there, but there are so many opportunities. And 204 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: it's the way that you present yourself as a woman 205 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: and respect, you know. And if you give out respect, 206 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: no matter if they're being disrespectful, you show them what 207 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: respect really is. It changes their the way that they 208 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: treat you, you know, and they treat you with respect, 209 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: you demand respect, you know, and that's very important as 210 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: an artist to be true to who you are and 211 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: be respected. 212 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 3: She would tell me about the first time you met Prince. 213 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 3: What was that experience? 214 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: I met him in the Bay Area in Oakland and 215 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: my dad was playing with Carlo Santana at the time 216 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: and they were recording their record and Prince was in 217 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: the studio next door. He was influenced by Bayry musicians. Again, 218 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: pretty amazing to be able to come to the Bay 219 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: Area to do your record because he wanted to be 220 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: in the space that Carlo Santana have recorded and also 221 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: sly Stone. So I met them met him soon after 222 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 1: that in the Bay Area and I was watching him 223 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: perform and introduce myself. And when he was after he 224 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: was done playing and went backstage and I got ready 225 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,599 Speaker 1: to introduce myself and he said, oh, I already know 226 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 1: who you are. And I said, hon He goes I've 227 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: been following your career and I was like, oh, thank you. 228 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 1: And they said I saw you with George Duke and 229 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: he started name and all the George Do stuff. You 230 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: saw me playing with George playing drums and percussion, and 231 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: that's how he met. 232 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 3: Tell me how close to reality the Dave Chappelle Prince 233 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 3: depiction really was to the tea. 234 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: It was absolutely nothing. There's nothing that would change about it. 235 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: There's nothing to be said other than that's what it was. 236 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 3: Does it still put a smile on your face when 237 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 3: you watch it? 238 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely? I crack up laughing. It's hilarious. I love it absolutely. 239 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 3: And he Prince had his own unique sense of humor. 240 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: I'm imagining absolutely, he is very funny. 241 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 3: So in the recent documentary that came out about the 242 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 3: Greatest Night in Pop, how did you feel watching that? 243 00:14:58,560 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 3: You know, when it came out. 244 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: Oh, it was amazing. I loved it. I didn't know 245 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: who was going to be in it, how it was 246 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: going to be put together. Because I had left probably 247 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: by four am that actual night or morning, I didn't 248 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: know some of the things that happened after the fact, 249 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: so it was really good to watch. I was by 250 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: the towards the end, I was very emotional. Actually brought 251 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: tears to my eyes because just realizing being a part 252 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: of something that big, that moment in making history in 253 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: that time. You don't realize it because you're in it 254 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: until after you leave and you go, wow, that's what 255 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: that was, you know, Because the very next morning, I 256 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: mean I had left once I left at four am 257 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: from the studio. Within the next two hours, we were 258 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: going to the next city. I was out on tours. 259 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: We got in the tour bus and left. I had 260 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: been up for three days, so I was delirious anyway, 261 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: kind of go through the motion. It was the first 262 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: time for me ever performing as a solo artist for 263 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: the American Music Awards, and that was a huge thing 264 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: for me, and I was very nervous about it and 265 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: playing in front of all of these people and something 266 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: that you dream about and when you're a solo artist 267 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: while you get the opportunity to play on one of 268 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: the biggest shows ever. So there was a lot going 269 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: on that night. 270 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 3: Do you think Bob Dylan regrets showing up? 271 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: That whole scene was hilarious. I mean, really, for Stevie 272 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: to have to emulate Bob Dylan in order for him 273 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: to understand what he needed to do was that was 274 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: a whole other thing that was so funny to me. 275 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 3: It's just it's a mind blowing collection of people, right, Yeah. 276 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it really was. The wonderful thing about it was 277 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: I mean, everyone did come in in a place of 278 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: just gratitude and really understanding you know, why we were 279 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: there was so powerful, you know it really like, you know, 280 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: when you really thought about why we're here, Okay, these 281 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 1: are all celebrities and blah blah, and we're fans of 282 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: each other and this and that. But then when you 283 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: think about why we were there and the purpose for 284 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: it was humbling to say the least. And it really 285 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: put everything in perspective. 286 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 3: So when you think of your career and you think 287 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 3: of your day to day work as a musician, what 288 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 3: are you still trying to learn I'm not. 289 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,479 Speaker 1: The thing is I always say I'm continuing to be 290 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: a student of life. And you sometimes want to learn 291 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: specific things, but then out of the blue you're learning 292 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: stuff you never even thought you were going to learn, 293 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: and that's just life in general. So I just say 294 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: I'm a student of life forever. I will continue to 295 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 1: learn whatever the essence, be hard or challenging, it's always something. 296 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 1: And when you're open to allowing yourself to learn, it's 297 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: it's you put yourself in a whole nother place and uh, 298 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: it's pretty amazing and you actually enjoy the process. So 299 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: there's a lot to learn, a lot to learn. 300 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 2: Well. 301 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 3: In closing, if a musician who's really trying to make 302 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 3: their mark and breaking in is listening to this podcast, 303 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 3: what advice would you give them? 304 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: Become an attorney. That's that's that's my two cents, and 305 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: I'm mis stick to it. 306 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 3: It's brilliant. Well, you are the best female drummer of 307 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 3: all time. You're one of the greatest drummers of all time, 308 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 3: Sheila E. Congratulations on the new project. It's an honor 309 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 3: to speak to you on the Take on a Walk podcast. 310 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: Thank you so. 311 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 2: Much, Thanks for listening. To this episode of the Take 312 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 2: a Walk podcast. 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