WEBVTT - What Really Happened Behind the Scenes? 0:00:04.200 --> 0:00:08.200 All right, it's sauce on the side. I'm Gandhi and Diamond. 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:09.440 I'm excited about this episode. 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:10.559 I am G. 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:13.840 So you may or may not have heard either on 0:00:13.960 --> 0:00:16.040 the Big show or us mentioning it at some point 0:00:16.040 --> 0:00:17.439 in the podcast, which I don't know if we did. 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:22.560 Diamond's cousin was on Love is Blind season seven. She 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:25.320 was toss it up, what are we gonna? What did 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:27.400 she do? Who is she? We're going to talk to 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:29.160 her today, but this is Diamond's cousin, so I feel 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:30.720 like this should be in charge. 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:33.560 By ooh, okay. So her name is Monica Davis. She's 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:37.080 on season seven of Love is Blind. She got pretty 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:40.839 much a bed rep in the beginning of the season 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:45.360 because she I almost said that she was edited to 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:48.880 look like a bougie girl. But she is a bougie bitch. Okay, 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:51.920 ugie queen, my girl. She is who she is and 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:56.280 she found love on the show, was ready to walk 0:00:56.320 --> 0:01:00.720 down the aisle, and then, without any spoilers, it basically 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:01.680 blew up in her face. 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:06.319 Quite the arc, quite the storyline. I think she had 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:10.320 the most interesting storyline of everybody. We're gonna find out 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:12.920 a lot of the behind the scenes, what happened, why 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:14.800 it ended the way it ended, why we didn't see 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:16.800 a lot of the things that we wanted to see, 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:18.880 kind of where she's at right now. And I'm saying 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:21.479 all this because we talked to her and I thought 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:23.240 it was great. How did you feel that it's your cousin? 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:23.920 It was great. 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:26.840 I think that she shocked me with some of the 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:29.200 things that she said, Like, I think you shocked her too, 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:33.920 Oh I did, and it is what it is. Yeah, 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:35.560 she really did shock me with some of the things. 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:37.640 I didn't know that people were in her dms, which 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:39.199 well get to I guess. 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:41.360 Yeah, you're gonna have to find that out on off 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:43.400 the air, because I don't think she was about to 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:47.200 give that up on the air. And full disclosure, and 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:49.000 I guess a little bit of a disclaimer. You're gonna 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:53.960 hear a weird sound most likely happening during this damn podcast. 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:54.720 What is going on? 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:57.560 They're cleaning the windows on the outside, and I guess 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:00.400 a little thingy is like hitting the glass has to 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:03.000 what is that called that they're on. 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:04.800 They're like a moving platform. 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:05.480 That was just it. 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:09.000 I wonder if it's whatever it is they've been doing 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:11.120 this for the duration of this podcast. So if you 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:14.640 hear weird sounds that sound like clanging and banging or 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:17.639 whatever it is, we don't know. Everybody keeps walking by 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:19.640 and looking at us, like do you hear that? Yes, 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:22.160 I hear that. We're also recording, so I can't really 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:24.280 come out and explain it to you, but that would 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:27.120 be the sound that you hear. Anyway. Very excited to 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:28.919 talk to Monica. I've been wanting to talk to Monica. 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:31.200 I've been texting you about it. But now I get 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:32.639 to ask all the questions myself. 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:33.800 Oh, I love it, and you're. 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:35.960 Gonna jump in whenever you want to. Yeah, yes, okay, 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:37.079 I hope you do. And I know you want to 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:39.200 play a game at the end, So let's just go, 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:43.360 is it? 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:47.919 Gandhi? Hi guys, this is so fun. I can't believe it's. 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:49.799 I'm excited too. I told Diamond I wanted to talk 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:53.720 to you like a Sappington about all of this, because Monica, 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:56.000 it's been cray. 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:57.959 It's been Cray. 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:01.760 We have Diamond's cousin, Mam, who was on the last 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:04.000 season of Love is Blind. What is that? Season seven? Yep, 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:08.919 Season seven, Love is Blind? Hello, Monica, Hi, guys, it's 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:10.239 so cool. 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:14.960 Hey Guzzy, Hi, so excited, so exciting. 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:17.320 Where do we begin? Monica? I would say, first of all, 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:20.839 you had one of the more fascinating story arcs on 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:24.440 that show, and I don't like the way stuff happened, 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:26.440 and then we just kind of moved on from it 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:29.280 without answering the gajillion questions. So that's why I've been 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:31.920 harassing Diamond to let me talk to you, so hopefully 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:32.839 you can answer some of these. 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:34.839 I'll answer everything. Let's okay. 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:38.160 So you're not bound by like any type of rules 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:39.720 you can't talk about this type of stuff. 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:42.400 The timing of this is perfect because the interviews or 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:44.480 excuse me, the reunions happened. I was like a lot 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:47.080 of the interviews I did pre reunion. I was bound. 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:49.680 But let's go yeah, no, get the cat out of 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:50.120 the bag. 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:52.320 All right, let's start at the beginning. Why did you 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:53.200 go on Love Is Blind? 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:57.720 I went on Love is Blind because I am a 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:00.600 fan of the show. I've watched all the season, never 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:04.800 thinking i'd actually do it, and when I applied to 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:07.880 be on it, and when I applied, it was the 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:11.920 time season four was out. If you remember season four Seattle, 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:17.240 Brett and Tiffany. They were a black couple between. 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:18.960 Say my favorite couple to come out of love. 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:22.920 Yeah, me too, They're amazing. And I had taken two 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:27.359 weeks off in between switching jobs, so I was traveling 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:30.920 visiting friends in those two weeks. And the season finale 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:33.000 was on and we see Brett and Tiffany get married, 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:35.760 and I was like a blubbering mess because I remember 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:38.400 watching her and seeing a lot of myself in her, 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:40.760 although she seems like a much like kinder, patient, more 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:43.760 patient person than I am, but she's a black woman. 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:45.400 She found Brett and she was like, if I would 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:46.760 have seen him on a dating app, you know, he 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:49.000 didn't go to college, I might have swiped the other way. 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:51.640 But he's so successful and amazing and all these other things. 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:56.160 And the day after I watched it, I started getting 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:58.360 DMS from friends saying, oh my gosh, Love is Blind 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:00.719 It's coming to DC. You should apply, And I was like, 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:02.880 what do I have to lose? I've tried everything, So 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:07.240 I applied. It's like a long questionnaire. I applied on 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:10.000 a flight from visiting my friend back to DC from 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:12.160 my phone. I didn't answer some of the questions because 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:13.680 I was on an airplane and they asked to like 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:16.760 record yourself take a video. So I never thought I 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:18.839 would actually get a call back, but I did. 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:21.320 Okay, So you went on with the purest intentions of 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:24.119 actually finding love and maybe stepping out through the box 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:28.680 that you're typically I guess looking inside for a fellow totally. 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:31.880 And I had the attitude of, like, this could work 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:33.960 for me, because my cousin will tell you she's like 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:36.800 similar to me too. I love I love having deep 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:39.200 conversations and getting to know someone, and so like on 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:40.839 a first day, and I'm pretty weird because I'm like, 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:42.880 so like, why did your parents get divorced? 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:43.080 You know? 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:45.279 And so I thought it could work for me, but 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:48.080 everything just kept happening and yeah, next thing you know, 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:49.320 I was feeling all the feels. 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:51.680 Diamond likes to have long conversations into the night. Is 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:52.359 this what you're saying? 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:52.840 Yeah? 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:54.080 About what? Why don't you talk to me? 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:55.559 We do talk? 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:56.200 Oh? 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:56.600 Please? 0:05:58.080 --> 0:05:58.159 No. 0:05:58.240 --> 0:05:59.960 I think it's actually a really cool way to meet 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:02.719 people because that's my favorite thing too. If you ask anyone, 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:06.599 I think around me, I'm terrible at small talk. It 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:09.080 actually irritates me and infuriates me, and I don't want 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:11.279 to be around it. So when we're at events and 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:14.200 I start getting bored, I'll start being like, so, get 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:16.600 any secrets, Tell me the worst day of your life, 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:18.039 Tell me the best day of your life. And people 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:20.119 think I'm weird, and they'll either give me an answer 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:21.680 or they'll walk away either way to win. 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:23.080 So you're the same way. 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:26.200 You're in these pods and you make a connection with Steven. 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:28.800 Did you make a connection with anybody else on the 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:30.240 show that we didn't see? 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:33.840 I did. There was another guy that I really actually 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:37.680 liked a lot. His name is Nick P. There was 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:41.400 a Nick, there's Nick D. And there's also another Nick. 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:44.479 Actually no, we'll talk about that later, but go ahead, Okay. 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:45.840 I liked Nick P. 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:49.560 And then for whatever reason, you end up really honing 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:51.920 in on Stephen here. How long was the process from 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.400 start to finish, from the time you enter to the 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:57.599 time people say I do? How long is that? 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:01.160 I think it's like seven seven weeks? Totally wow? 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:04.640 And what is the setup? Obviously we see the pods. 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:06.719 Are you guys all living in a house together? Do 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:09.279 you have separate hotel rooms? How does that work? 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:13.480 So we actually have separate hotel rooms. So every morning 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:17.160 we you know, get taken over to the lounge. It's 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:19.600 like a studio set. The pods are and there's a 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:21.560 women's lounge and the men's lounge on the other side. 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:23.840 But well, that was actually one of my first questions 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:26.760 when I was going through this six month interview process. 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:29.280 I was like, Hey, I don't mean to sound too bougie, 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:31.320 but like I'm gonna sleep it in that lounge with 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:33.040 other girls, like and they're like, no, we get you 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:34.119 at your own hotel rooms. 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:36.480 So because it seems like you guys get incredibly close, 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:38.960 like the girls get along really well with the girls, 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:40.800 and the guys get along well with the guys. 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:43.160 You spend so much time in that damn lounge. Like 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:46.760 the girls are super closed, the guys are super closed. 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:48.920 You know, a lot of days you're not just dating 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:51.040 in the pods during the day. There's the option to 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:54.400 do night dating as well, so like you're you're there 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:58.520 for hours and hours and hours and you have nothing 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:00.080 else to do but to talk to the women if 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:01.280 you're not on it on a date. 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:04.840 So fair enough, do you think, first of all, Timond, 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:06.680 please jump be in at any point whenever you have 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:09.720 a question to cousin. This is all via you. I 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:11.680 know a lot of editing goes into this, because again 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:15.440 it's twenty four to seven ish for weeks at a 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:19.520 time where they're recording. Do you think any people were 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:23.000 made to look bad or made to look like villains 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:26.120 that in fact were not You can say yourself, because 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:27.360 I actually think you got a little bit of a 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:29.760 bad rap in some things I do. 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:32.120 I totally think I got it. I completely think I 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:36.880 got a bad rep. It's crazy because there's twelve episodes 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:39.199 plus the reunion, and as you know, they were released 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:43.280 in drops. Yes, so my breakup happened the second drop 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:47.080 on episode eight, I think. Okay, so those episodes, the 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:50.840 first two drops, I watched Live with You with the 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:53.240 rest of the world I didn't get I spent the 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:55.240 last year of my life being like, what did I say? 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:58.000 What did I do? And then I'm watching Live the 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:01.920 second half. We watched it la like right before the reunion, 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:03.439 before the rest of the world, so we could talk 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:07.000 about the whole thing. But watching the first drop, which 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:09.600 ended with the very last episode, is me telling Steven 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:12.800 he talks too much, right, and I need to have space. 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:15.400 Then I have to wait a week till the next drop, 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:18.120 and that whole drop is me being like I want flowers. 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:20.599 You didn't come with the fireworks with me. Don't buy me, 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:23.640 Kate Spade. He's so scared of me, and I like 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:27.800 saving my butt for marriage, like you should have seen me. 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:32.840 I have. My body was shaking forward like this. I 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:36.000 was like no, no, oh, like what am I gonna 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:39.040 say next? Because after that first drop, when I tell 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:42.120 him like he's talking too much and I need space, 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:43.880 I have to wait a week. And during that week, 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:47.840 the Internet came at me so hard, like it's so 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:50.400 hard I dealed. I dealt with so much hate and 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:53.200 so I'm like, okay, next drop is Mexico and I'm 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:55.760 watching and I'm like, they're gonna kill me. The trolls 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:57.480 are gonna kill me. They're gonna think I'm the worst 0:09:57.480 --> 0:10:00.800 person in the world. So that was very, very very 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:04.000 tough having to process it all live. What's hard is 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:06.000 like all of as you know, all of those things 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:09.439 I said, I actually said right like I wouldn't take 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:13.240 it back. But it's not scripted, it's not edited and 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:15.920 cut in a weird way. You're just missing a lot 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:18.640 of context. You're missing like when I tell Stephen he's 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:22.280 talking too much. At this point, production had to like 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:25.120 jump into many of our conversations and be like, Stephen, 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:27.840 let Monica answer the question, like Monica's not getting a 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:29.800 chance to spee so and that. 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:32.840 That he's talking too much, and they're still just setting 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:33.640 it up like you're the bitch. 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:34.800 Yeah, yeah, Do. 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:36.359 You have any beef with any of the producers? 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:40.160 No? I love listen In the end. Our season was 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:42.360 really different from other seasons because a lot of couples 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:44.880 broke up before the altar. Like most past seasons, you 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:46.480 get to the altar and you say yes or no. 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:49.200 We had four out of six couples, if you include 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:52.360 Brittany and Leo, five out of seven couples break up 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:55.280 before getting to the altar. I'm not an angel, I've 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:57.240 never pretended to be, so I knew that they were 0:10:57.240 --> 0:11:00.800 going to have to make the relationship breakdown makes sense. 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:05.720 So for me, Marissa, Hannah, and Alex, like, it wasn't 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:08.240 an easy ride because we all broke up, so like 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:10.720 they can't show, oh, this is a perfect relationship because 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:12.079 they weren't perfect relationships. 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:14.079 You look like a bit of a villain. I think 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:17.320 by the end, though, especially after the reunion, I think 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:19.199 that you had some redemption. I hope you feel like 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:21.080 you had some redemption, and I would imagine the internet 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:24.240 is not as hard on you as they were initially. 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:28.880 But what about the rest, like Leo? Was Leo as 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:31.200 bad as he seemed, because that man, to me was 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:34.400 insufferable from episode one or two with the amount that 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:35.800 he was talking about his money. 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:39.120 Honestly, I'm not kidding you at all. If you got 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:40.760 to know him in person or even met him once, 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:45.760 he's awesome, Like he's so cool and wonderful, and also 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:48.000 like I like him a lot because he is very 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:50.800 self aware, Like he's like, fuck, I did talk. Oh sorry, 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:52.960 I'm not sure if I'm supposed to be crushing. I apologize, okay, 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:56.840 but he's like he's like, I didn't know that I 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:58.800 talked about money so much and I sound like such 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.400 a d bag. And like I think every person who 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:03.720 has a little bit of self awareness in them watching 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:06.040 the show back, they're like, okay, there, I'm not there 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:09.440 are things that I can fix, even me watching myself back. 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:13.960 So Leo's actually really really cool. I didn't get to 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:15.960 know him very well in the Pods, we didn't date 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:19.040 for more than a day or two, but getting to 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:22.239 know him since while the show's been out, you know, afterwards, 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:24.240 I've been asked a lot about him in interviews, and 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:27.800 so there's been conversation about like, hey, I'm just being honest, 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:29.960 and he's like, please be honest. I did gas light 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:33.160 Hannah say exactly how you feel like, I'm not mad 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:33.880 at you. 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:34.080 You know. 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:35.400 So he's been so awesome. 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:38.600 I completely forgot about that interaction between him and Hannah. Hannah, 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:40.720 she didn't come off super well and a lot of 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:42.560 it either. Did she deserve it? 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:46.800 My girl got she's getting She's getting it heavy. I 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:51.280 don't she's getting it really bad. I don't think she 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:54.520 deserves at all the hate that she's getting. You spend 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:57.080 so much time with the people on the cast, but 0:12:57.400 --> 0:12:58.800 at the end of the day, I'm not in the 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:02.280 rooms with her and when they're having private conversations behind 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:05.760 closed doors. What I will say is I was very 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:09.480 surprised watching Hannah and Nick's relationship play out as a 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:12.880 viewer because my real life experience, and I talk about 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:15.480 this at the reunion, was I didn't think Nick was 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:17.679 that into Hannah. I thought that it would actually be 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:21.000 a rougher ride for Nick, but you know, the way 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:21.559 they made. 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:25.640 A book was wild. I was very surprised when Hannah 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:28.880 met Nick at Hannah's reaction, especially right after she said, 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:31.320 my worst nightmare would be if he meets me and 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:33.240 doesn't like what he sees. And then she meets him 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:35.280 and clearly don't like what she sees. But this is 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:38.360 my question about Nick. Everybody was talking about how he 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:40.600 was such a smooth talker and he was so charming, 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:44.200 like mister steel your girl type of energy. Where was that? 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:46.320 Did they edit it out? Because I didn't see it. 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:49.959 It was insane, like his energy. I wish that everyone 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:53.000 could do the pods part of the experiment and then 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:55.680 see people for the first time after talking to them, 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:57.720 almost like if they gave you an option as a 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:02.040 viewer to watch watch it with goggles on and then 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:04.559 when the reveals happened, take your goggles off or something, 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:07.320 because I think you would. I mean, Nick, I was like, 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:09.440 oh my god, he's going to break my heart, even 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:13.640 though like he was just such a smooth talker, so confident, 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:19.680 so reassuring, and like smooth, sexy strong, like everything about 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:23.280 him was like hot and bothered. Truly. All the girls 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:25.600 were like, he's going to be like the really hot 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:28.040 one that's probably going to break someone's heart is what 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:31.400 we thought before you know seeing him, Yeah, for sure. 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:41.440 But let's get back to you and calling it off 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:42.520 very dramatic. 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:43.280 What happened? 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:49.640 You get through the pods, you and Stephen meet, he proposes, 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:53.400 then you go to Mexico. Things were okay in Mexico 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:56.640 or no, they're okay. Yeah, it was an accurate representation. 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:59.840 Yeah, it was pretty accurate. Like we were both really exilix, 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:02.880 you know, excited and into it, but definitely working out 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:04.760 some I hate when I talk about him now I 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:06.960 can't say the word kinks, but working out some kings. 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:11.000 But yeah, we were really happy and like thought we 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:14.200 were definitely headed to the altar at that point for sure. 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:17.640 Okay, then you leave Mexico and you go to the 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:20.320 apartment that you guys share while you're sort of getting 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:22.800 to the point of the marriage, the actual vows walking 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:28.080 down the aisle and you catch him sexting somebody from 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:30.720 a time when he was allegedly at a sleep study. 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:33.160 How did you catch him? How did you get into 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:35.200 that phone because they kind of just glossed over that. 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:36.920 Yeah, people are so confused by that. 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:39.120 So I was confused by that. I was like, Diamond, Yeah. 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:44.760 So like, so for the Pods in Mexico, you have 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:47.280 cameras on you a lot. Obviously, like not twenty four 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:48.920 to seven. It's not a show where there's like cameras 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:51.040 in your room at all times, but there's cameras on 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:54.360 you a lot. When you get back to DC and 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:57.800 you start living together, every cast member and crew member 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:00.800 gets two days off a week. So I've heard I've 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:02.400 seen a lot of things online and we've all heard 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:05.320 a lot about how things in our season feel clunky, 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:07.360 and like what happened with Tim and alex Is fight 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:10.200 and Monic and Stein's text and we got two days 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:13.120 off of a week of the week. So the day 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:15.240 that I happened to find these texts on Steven's phone 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:18.600 is a day that we weren't filming, of course, but 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:22.800 of course, essentially that day, Taylor and Garrett had texted 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:25.160 all of us couples because we were all living in 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:28.680 the same apartment building in Arlington, Virginia, and they texted 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:31.240 and said, hey, guys, we're baking fall goods. Right, this 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:33.840 was like October of last year. We're going to bring 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:35.760 them by to each of you later today, we'll text you. 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:37.560 So Steven and I are having a great night in 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:39.560 the apartment. Was like so happy to have a day 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:43.360 off from filming, and we're like laughing, having a great 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:45.560 time and all. He goes to step into the bathroom 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:48.200 and as soon as he does, randomly his phone Night's 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:50.240 up and I see Garrett's name and it's like, hey, man, 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:52.360 we're going to drop off the stuff soon. Are you 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:54.600 guys home? So I was like, oh, hey, babe, Garrett 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:56.400 just texted. I'm going to text them back. Like I 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:58.680 didn't even think twice of anything. Stephen always told me 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:02.040 that there's no phone issue or you know. So I 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:03.520 just picked it up and I was like, oh, I'm 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:05.040 going to text him back, and I'm like yelling to 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:07.000 him that. And when I go to do that, all 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:10.520 of a sudden, there's a girl's name there. And I 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:12.960 trusted Stephen so much in term, like I never in 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:14.720 a million years would have thought you would have done 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:17.320 what he did. So I almost didn't even click her name. 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:19.480 Something in my gut told me to and I clicked 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:21.120 it and boom goes the dynamite. 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:23.439 So it's all the creepy, grossichy stuff. 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:25.080 There was a lot Like I he was in the 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:30.000 bathroom still I'm, when I say, shocked, like incredibly shocked, 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:33.320 like cannot even process what's happening. I leave the kitchen 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:35.199 and go step into the bedroom with his phone and 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:37.399 I'm scrolling and I'm reading, and I'm scrolling and I'm scrolling, 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:39.320 I'm scrolling score and they go way way back, like 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:43.360 way way way back. But what's really difficult is right 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:46.560 after that production comes, camera crews come. You see some 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:49.960 of the fallouts, some of it. I even five seconds 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:52.800 after it all happened, and I confronted him the next day. 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:55.439 I had a really hard time remembering the details of 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:57.119 what I thought, even though I read it in detail. 0:17:57.160 --> 0:18:00.639 I guess my body was actually experiencing extreme Like I 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:03.320