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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Sali verbal. Boys and girls, my

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Speaker 3: always still the incomparable. In twenty twenty three, Dan.

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Speaker 3: I am rejuvenated, I am refreshed, I am somewhat recharged.

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Speaker 3: We have not recorded since the Monday evening of the

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Speaker 3: Monday night of the National Championship game. Congratulations Georgia for

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Speaker 3: throttling TCU in that game. But on Thursday we ran

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Speaker 3: the LA Live show that we did. Hope everybody enjoyed that.

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Speaker 3: Now we've had a weekend to re charged, refreshed, to

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Speaker 2: That's true. Yeah, we did the Bruine on Patreon on

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Speaker 2: Thursday morning. I believeverballers dot Com our weekly Q and

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Speaker 2: A all year long behind the scenes.

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Speaker 1: Life is good, Ty, life is good.

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Speaker 2: I am very excited to dive into all of these

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Speaker 2: That's sort of where we're going to focus today. That

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Speaker 2: This is the lead right now, this is the top

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Speaker 2: as he should have. That was not a surprise, That

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Speaker 1: Yeah, shall we get into news.

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Speaker 1: We do have breaking new.

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Speaker 2: Bringing back that voice, bringing back that voice. There's lots

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Speaker 2: that's breaking. There's a lot that's going on. You stole

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Speaker 2: do ty. I'm throwing morsels of college football out as

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Speaker 3: So, speaking of the power of nil, thirteen million dollars,

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Speaker 2: By the way, one hundred percent chance if Jade and

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Speaker 2: the way that they lost that game. Maybe it was

434
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Speaker 2: the Tennessee thing. Who knows, but the right move at

435
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Speaker 2: the right time, And hopefully this this turns the page

436
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Speaker 2: and helps to usher Dabbo into the modern era.

437
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Speaker 3: Yeah, still maybe slowly melting for all we know, but

438
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Speaker 3: could be.

439
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 2: But Yeah, and Kendall Brill's rumored to see you. I

440
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,880
Speaker 2: don't know if that's official to take his spot from Arkansas.

441
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Speaker 3: Yeah, don't don't love that move, but he's a name

442
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 3: that potentially could slide in there. And obviously as his

443
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 3: coached offense for a while, dating back to it's time

444
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Speaker 3: at Baylor.

445
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Speaker 2: That's one of those names you gotta float before you

446
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 2: make official. He got a yeah, you got a temperate

447
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 2: sure in the room. Just see what people think about

448
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,159
Speaker 2: Kendall Briles. Another big one here is Pete Golding, the

449
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Speaker 2: yes guy for Alabama, leaving for the same position at

450
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Speaker 2: Old Miss.

451
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Speaker 1: I saw. I forget who it was.

452
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Speaker 3: Somebody on Twitter posted that this is a move that

453
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Speaker 3: makes two fan bases happy. You immediately tweeted aadn't tweet.

454
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Speaker 3: I guess he sent it to me privately that Jim

455
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,120
Speaker 3: Leonard would be a nice fit for Alabama.

456
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Speaker 2: Just he's the huge name out there. Obviously, he's received

457
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 2: NFL interest in the past. Thing the Packers tried to

458
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 2: make a move in him last year. So he is

459
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,719
Speaker 2: the biggest fish and has been the biggest fish as

460
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Speaker 2: from a defensive coordinator standpoint at the time of this recording.

461
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Speaker 2: Don't know if I'll go to Alabama, don't know. Don't

462
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Speaker 2: know where he's going to end up. Austin Armstrong was

463
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 2: hired away from Southern miss. I assume it's going to

464
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Speaker 2: be for some sort of I don't know if it's

465
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Speaker 2: a host, associate head coach or co d C type role.

466
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Speaker 2: He's looked at as an up and coming defensive coordinator,

467
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Speaker 2: kind of looked at as a like a maniac savant

468
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Speaker 2: kind of He's young, he's very young, but I did

469
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Speaker 2: some research on him and he's sort of very much

470
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Speaker 2: seen as a shooting star in the defensive coaching world.

471
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Speaker 2: So he's coming over to Alabama from Southern Myths, who

472
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Speaker 2: they themselves took a really impressive step forward on defense

473
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Speaker 2: this past year. So Nick Saban clearly looking at the

474
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Speaker 2: landscape and looking at his roster and looking at the

475
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Speaker 2: results of the past few years where Alabama has been

476
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Speaker 2: and has put on the field some incredible offenses and

477
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 2: developed some incredible offensive players, and developed some incredible defensive players,

478
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Speaker 2: you know, notably you know what we've seen from Will

479
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 2: Anderson and kool Aid, McKinstry and Dallas Turner. But the

480
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 2: overall performance of this defense and whether you're looking at

481
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Speaker 2: being shelled by Hendon Hooker and Tennessee or losing the

482
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Speaker 2: way they did to LSU, and just overall being the

483
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Speaker 2: liability of the Alabama program, if there was one, there

484
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Speaker 2: were one, I think if there were one, it was time.

485
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Speaker 1: It was time.

486
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Speaker 2: Pee Golding has never been I would say beloved in

487
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Speaker 2: Tuscaloosa by Alabama fans. So with all Missus defense taking

488
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Speaker 2: a step back to say the nicest thing I could

489
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Speaker 2: possibly say about where they were this and I have

490
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 2: it in front of me, ty eighty six in rushing

491
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 2: success rate defense, one hundred and sixth in passing success

492
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 2: rate defense, and they're points per drive sixty first. So

493
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 2: they went from promising under DJ Dirkin really improved and

494
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 2: took a pretty significant step back, especially the back half

495
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Speaker 2: of the year.

496
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Speaker 1: So hopefully Pete Golding.

497
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Speaker 2: Is that answer and everybody is happier for this transaction.

498
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Speaker 3: Some other news on the coaching front, Ohio State promotes

499
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 3: Brian Hartline to offensive coordinator dan. Brian Hartline notable in

500
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Speaker 3: the recruiting world, a dogged recruiter, so well deserved for

501
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 3: him to get this offensive coordinator job. I saw that

502
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 3: Mississippi State has brought over the guy from app State,

503
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 3: Kevin Barbee, to be its new offensive coordinator. I don't

504
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 3: know if there are any other moves here that you'd

505
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 3: want to shout out.

506
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Speaker 2: No, just on the couple you mentioned, app State had

507
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 2: a really impressive offense this year, and we saw it

508
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 2: on a couple of big stages. So I like that

509
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 2: move from Mississippi State there in a very difficult position

510
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 2: as trying to sort of rebuild things on the fly

511
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 2: after Mike Leech's passing and everything that goes, you know

512
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 2: internally with the sort of grief that everybody's feeling there,

513
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,199
Speaker 2: and he's like, well, you've got to rebuild something. So

514
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 2: I've saw they've hired new personnel people, so hopefully that

515
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 2: works out if you're a Mississippi State person. The Brian

516
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 2: Hartline thing is fascinating because they've had a legit offensive

517
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 2: coordinator these past few years and Kevin Wilson, even though

518
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: Ryan Day was calling plays, and now we've got first time.

519
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 2: I know Brian Hartline has had elevated titles, but now

520
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 2: he is the coordinator and presumably calling place because Ryan

521
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: Day told I think Kirk krb Street before the playoffs

522
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 2: again adding up play calling, duelay calling business. Yeah, it's

523
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 2: still going to be a Ryan Day offense, I'm positive,

524
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Speaker 2: but Brian Hartline, certainly, especially given his recruiting acumen, the

525
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 2: coaching acumen, how good receivers have developed, how well, they've

526
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 2: developed under Heartline at Ohio State that this is going

527
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Speaker 2: to be a fruitful transition for the Buckeyes as they,

528
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Speaker 2: you know, try to stop a Michigan losing streak as

529
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 2: it were.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, crazy to say that, but definitely well deserved for

531
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 3: Brian Hartline and as you said, just very very sound

532
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 3: in the recruiting game. To be able to put those

533
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 3: receivers that he's recruiting still recruiting into an advantageous spot,

534
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Speaker 3: I think only makes it more likely that if you're

535
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 3: a top receiver, you want to go to Ohio State.

536
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 2: Heartline's not going to be there for long one, but

537
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 2: he interviewed for Cincinnati. He's not going to be there

538
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 2: for long. But yet I get smart. It's smart because

539
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 2: connuity seems important right now as Ohio State makes a

540
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 2: transition to whomever at starting quarterback moving forward.

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Speaker 3: I do want to mention Derek Mason getting out of

542
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 3: football for a while, announced that he's going on sabbatical,

543
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 3: stepping away from coaching and it's not college football, but

544
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 3: it is college football and Jason and Cliff Kingsbury, and

545
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 3: if he saw the new Cliff Kingsbury fired from the

546
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals, and reportedly I think this was per Peter

547
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 3: Schreeger or friend Peter. He bought a one way ticket

548
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 3: to Island that is not currently fielding other coaching interest

549
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 3: at this time.

550
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope Derek Mason does the same, though I

551
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 2: suspect Derek Mason has a family and responsibilities that Cliff

552
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 2: Kingsbury does not spend one year with Mike Gundy and

553
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 2: Stillwater and Derek Mason's like, I gotta take a break

554
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 2: from all this nonsense. By the way, that's Auburn and

555
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 2: still Water in back to back season. So yeah, it's

556
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 2: it's been a few years in a tough three years,

557
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 2: getting fired by Vandy, the Auburn situation with Brian Harson

558
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 2: leaving voluntarily and then trying to salvage things in still

559
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 2: Water after a really good defense sort of fell apart

560
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 2: with a lot of players sort of sort.

561
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Speaker 3: Of feels like a bit of a low key nightmare

562
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 3: in still Water as well.

563
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 2: I'm totally right there with you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. They added Alan Bowman in the portal tie al Bowman.

565
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, oh, come on, you can't kill Alan

566
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 2: Bowman's credit. I said, credibility, his eligibility. He can't be killed.

567
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: They've tried to kill him a couple of times in

568
00:28:58,960 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: the field.

569
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: He's been more than healthy.

570
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's been at Michigan the last couple of years. Yeah,

571
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 2: it's it's good to see some of these guys are like, Yep,

572
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 2: I'm burnt out. I gotta take a break. I have

573
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 2: to to give myself some time.

574
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: Can we speaking at that point? Yeah? Can I You

575
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: called me smoothie, You're smooth?

576
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

577
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: Speaking? Be a burnout?

578
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 3: What is I'm burnt out with this harrball foot seas

579
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 3: thing that he's playing with with. I guess the administration

580
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 3: of Michigan. So let's go back for a moment if

581
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 3: we can. Jim Harbaugh announces via a statement that he

582
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 3: enthusiastically expects to be coaching Michigan next season, but obviously

583
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 3: things can change.

584
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 2: Well, he said, what was it is nobody can predict that.

585
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 3: Nobody can predict the future, right, Yeah, that was it.

586
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:53,479
Speaker 1: Nobody can predict the future.

587
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 3: But I expect to enthusiastically be coaching Michigan in twenty

588
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 3: twenty three. So there was that, and then recently there

589
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 3: was a comment from somebody at Michigan. Don't president chance, right,

590
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,479
Speaker 3: I am pleased to share. This is a tweet from

591
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 3: January the twelfth, Please to share that I have been

592
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 3: having very positive and constructive conversations with our athletic director

593
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 3: and football coach, Ward Manual and I both want to

594
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 3: see Jim Harbaugh stay as the head football coach of

595
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 3: the University of Michigan. Obviously, obviously, obviously won the Big

596
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 3: Ten two years running, beat Ohio State two years running,

597
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 3: went to the playoff two years running. Obviously, you'd like

598
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 3: to have this guy back as football coach. I think

599
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 3: that's that goes without saying so. Then Jim Harbaugh announces

600
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 3: via statement quote, I am in full support of President

601
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 3: Ono's message to our fans and appreciate his support of

602
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 3: me and the team. Yeah, what is going on with this?

603
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 3: Why are we like? These are words that do not

604
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 3: need to be said. I don't get it.

605
00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 2: Either sign an extension or don't. But the problem NFL

606
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 2: teams don't seem to want Jim Harbaugh right that. It

607
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 2: seems to be a lot of one way texts. It

608
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 2: seems to be.

609
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: There was the.

610
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 2: Report again this is a report that he was almost

611
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 2: badgering the Carolina Panthers for an interview not one of

612
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: us may have the ability to predict the future, but

613
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 2: I have a pretty good sense of what Jim Harbaugh

614
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 2: wants his future to be, and that's to be not

615
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 2: the head coach of the Michigan Wolverines and to be

616
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 2: on an NFL sideline if that report is true, and

617
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 2: it was the reported interest in the Broncos. And by

618
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 2: the way, until recently, Jim Harbaugh didn't have an agent.

619
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Speaker 2: He was his own mouthpiece. So when people are talking

620
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 2: about reports like a's Jim Harbaugh picking up his phone

621
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: to text people where things stand with his brain. So

622
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens with Jim Harbaugh if he wants

623
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: to sign an extension, sign an extension. There were reports

624
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 2: that there was one on the table that included more

625
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: money and incentives and a bigger pool and more nil

626
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 2: contributions from certain people should he sign, and like there

627
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 2: were the promises that made and then he didn't sign it,

628
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: and then there were reports that some of that stuff

629
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 2: was taken off the table, and then it was put

630
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 2: back on the table. I don't know, man. You talk

631
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 2: about other schools negative recruiting against you, it's pretty easy

632
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 2: at this point, just because of the Harbaugh stuff. There's

633
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 2: a lot to love about if you're a recruit going

634
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 2: to Michigan and you know the amount of winning that's done.

635
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 2: They're currently currently the premier program as the two time

636
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: champ in the Big Ten, or the premier program in

637
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 2: the Midwest and in the Big Ten, developing NFL stars, whatever.

638
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: But Jim Harbo makes it very easy to recruit against

639
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh and the future of Michigan if he again

640
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 2: is putting out these flirtations right and these one way

641
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 2: text messages a year after doing it and failing with

642
00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 2: the Vikings, I just there is something off at the top,

643
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 2: something right now.

644
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 3: When we talked about Jim Harbaugh's interest with the Vikings

645
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 3: a year ago and when he came back, I think

646
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 3: we still mentioned what seemingly was an interest from Harbaugh

647
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 3: to go back to the pro game, and we had

648
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 3: folks who are like, no, no, no, no, no, no, he's.

649
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: Listen past, listen, it's in the past.

650
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 3: He's here to stay. He wants to be here and

651
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 3: now this and now this now. I am in full

652
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 3: support of President Ono's message to our fans and appreciate

653
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 3: his support of me and the team. That's why Twitter

654
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 3: invented the like button.

655
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: Just hit the like.

656
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 3: But you don't need to tweet that out right to

657
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 3: say that at all. It goes without saying. But yeah,

658
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 3: here's where we're at. Jim Harbaugh wants to coach in

659
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 3: the NFL again. At some point, somebody's got taken it.

660
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 2: He desperately wants to coach in the NFL again.

661
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 3: Eventually somebody will take him back, maybe this year, it'll

662
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 3: be next. Yeah, Jim Harbaugh's not getting any younger. I

663
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 3: suspect he wants to win a Super Bowl. I suspect

664
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 3: that race is happening. But weird circumstances, weird statements, it's just,

665
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 3: you know, I just I don't get it.

666
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 2: It's also kind of unprofessional that he could have an agent,

667
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: or he could have some sort of means by which

668
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,720
Speaker 2: he could say I want to be an NFL coach.

669
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 2: Two NFL teams right without it becoming so public, right

670
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 2: that you could do a lot of this behind the scenes.

671
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 2: That there is an NFL team that either has fired

672
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 2: their coach that tells Harbaugh, if you want to come,

673
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 2: we'll have you, and they handle things very cleanly behind

674
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 2: the scenes, and there is that transition in January or

675
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 2: whenever the you know, Black Monday is in the NFL. Sure,

676
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 2: But and then if that's not the case, Jim Harbaugh

677
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 2: can because it seems like he enjoys Twitter a good

678
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 2: amount and enjoys posting things on his own behalf can

679
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,919
Speaker 2: say zero percent chance I'm in the NFL next year

680
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 2: and any anytime moving forward, I'm recruiting and love hanging

681
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 2: out with Michigan players, and I love this scene here.

682
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 2: He could say that, but the fact remains he doesn't

683
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 2: have an accurate gauge, it seems in his own brain

684
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 2: about where NFL teams stand with him, and that, to me,

685
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 2: is the problem. It's very strange. It's just it's very different.

686
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 2: And so for the sake of Michigan people, I hope

687
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 2: he stays there for a long time because he wins

688
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 2: a crap ton of games. But to deal with this

689
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 2: like it's becoming very farvy, right like the and I.

690
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 3: Mean not entirely, but I hear what you're saying.

691
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 2: Not in time farv in the off season indecision, But sure,

692
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 2: I guess Aaron rodgersy now too, if I can read

693
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 2: headlines anyway, It's just I don't know man, it's just

694
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 2: either like you're a Michigan dude or you're an NFL dude.

695
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 2: And if you get the sense that no NFL teams

696
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 2: want you, you're for sure a Michigan dude, and so

697
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,240
Speaker 2: sign the extension and make it official and move forward.

698
00:35:58,360 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just.

699
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 3: There are so many bad coaches in the NFL. They're

700
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 3: really bad coaches right now in the NFL. Of course,

701
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 3: many of them have been fired. There are some who

702
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 3: I think will will have yet to be fired this cycle.

703
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 3: Whether or not any of them decide they want to

704
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 3: go to Jim Harbaugh remains to be seen. Eventually somebody

705
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 3: will Eventually somebody will want to go to Harbaugh.

706
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: The weird thing is with the NFL. I apologize for

707
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 2: interrupting you, Ty, only a little bit. Jim Harbaugh is

708
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,919
Speaker 2: not new, No, Jim Harbaugh is a Everybody has Jim

709
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 2: Harbaugh stories, everybody has a sense for Jim Harbaugh. So

710
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: I guess on a certain level, you can meet with

711
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh to sort of see for yourself or maybe

712
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,439
Speaker 2: see if he's grown or you know, devolved in some way.

713
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 2: But this isn't like an up and company. This isn't

714
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 2: Sean McVay, This isn't Mike McDaniel, These are any of

715
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: these young guys, Like does he have what it? We

716
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 2: know that Jim Harbaugh can succeed on a pretty high

717
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,720
Speaker 2: level as an NFL coach and as a college coach.

718
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: We know that he has we'll call him idiosyncrasies. So

719
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 2: there's there's not a lot of mystery to Jim Harbaugh.

720
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 2: And there is about like a long time somebody who's

721
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 2: never been in the NFL or a very young somebody

722
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 2: who's unproven, and we don't really have a good sense

723
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 2: for his vision and personality. You know Jim Harborough's personality,

724
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 2: You know his vision, you know his intention, and it

725
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 2: takes it only takes one you know, owner or president

726
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 2: or whatever to make that decision. But that's the weird

727
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 2: thing that there is not a huge sense to me

728
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 2: from afar of self awareness on the the Harbaugh Michigan

729
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 2: NFL front.

730
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I uh, I don't know.

731
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: The NFL loves retreads, loves retre less.

732
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 2: Now though obviously the Vikings, the Vikings said, this coach

733
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: has won a super Bowl, this coach is with Kevin O'Connell.

734
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,959
Speaker 2: The Vikings just lost. They just embarrassed theseus.

735
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: To the Giants.

736
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 2: I didn't watch the game, so I don't know the

737
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 2: full context, but they looked at it and said, yeah,

738
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 2: we want this young guy who's proven nothing as a

739
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: coach rather than Jim Harper.

740
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: Well we'll see.

741
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 3: Somebody eventually is gonna is gonna totally jump in bed

742
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 3: with Harball at the NFL level. But we'll see, We'll

743
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 3: see when it comes to that. Speaking of more movement

744
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 3: from the Big Ten to the NFL, this is the

745
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 3: Kevin Warren music that I've chosen for this podcast. Hope

746
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 3: you like it, Dan, Yes, Kevin Warren, who for a

747
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 3: long time was an NFL executive before becoming the commissioner

748
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 3: of the Big Ten. He was with the Rams, He

749
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 3: was with the Detroit Lions. He was with the Vikings

750
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 3: for a long time, with the Vikings the COO of

751
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 3: the Vikings for a number of years before he decided

752
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 3: to jump over to the Big Ten. He is now

753
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 3: going back to the NFL. So after kicking up so

754
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 3: much dust on the college level, bringing over usc UCLA,

755
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 3: making a bunch of moves for the Big Ten conference,

756
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 3: he has decided to now head back to the NFL.

757
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 3: He's going to be the president and CEO of the

758
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 3: Chicago Bears, So if you're a Bears fan, I guess

759
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 3: that's a good move. I don't know a whole lot

760
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:09,760
Speaker 3: about NFL executives and what they've done in previous regions.

761
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 2: I think I think he's being brought in to build

762
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 2: a new stadium. But those are the vibes, local vibes, locally, thank.

763
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 3: You is and maybe you've seen some of the video

764
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 3: clips of what they want to do to Soldier Field

765
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 3: with the glass dome and some of the cool stuff.

766
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 3: Two point two billion dollars something in that neighborhood to

767
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 3: be a pretty big endeavor.

768
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: But KEVINL.

769
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 3: Warren jumping ship. He is going over to the Bears.

770
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 3: I have not seen a whole lot with respect to

771
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 3: who could take over as the head guy for the

772
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 3: Big Ten conference, but for sure there'll be some ramifications

773
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,919
Speaker 3: just on an administrative level with whoever that new guy

774
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 3: or gall ends up being.

775
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 2: Yes, commissioner. Always struck me, and maybe this is a

776
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 2: me thing. Always struck me as like not a short

777
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,280
Speaker 2: term gig, right that you take it with the intention.

778
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 2: And now a lot of people seem to be pretty

779
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 2: unhappy with the job with certain things. You go back

780
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: to the COVID year. You go back to right the

781
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 2: year the cancelation or the presumed cancelation or the uncancelation,

782
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 2: and then the drama, especially with Nebraska, and it was

783
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 2: just like and we talked to Nicole about this. Nicole

784
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,439
Speaker 2: Houer back from the Athletic, I love dropping a good name.

785
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 2: She's a great name. Talked about the strength that Jim

786
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 2: Delaney had with the Big Ten is that he got

787
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 2: everybody on the same page. He knew, he knew how

788
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 2: to how to pet everybody's head, right, he knew this

789
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 2: president loves having sandwiches delivered, This president loves a call

790
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 2: every Monday, right that he just knew how everybody ticked.

791
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,439
Speaker 2: This chancellor like this, this athletic director like this. And

792
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 2: he was the ultimate politician. I don't even say that

793
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 2: in a negative way. That he just got everybody on

794
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: the same page. He was a very good communicator, a

795
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: very good persuader, right launching the Big ten network, you know,

796
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: signing the new deals with at the time ESPN and

797
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 2: Fox and so much of commissioner jobs now is media

798
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 2: rite stuff, right, It's the bottom line. We are a

799
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 2: television and media funded sport, and so all of these conferences,

800
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 2: as we all know, are competing with each other for

801
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 2: the same dollars from ESPN, eight Meal, Fox, Amazon, Apple, whoever.

802
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 2: And to that end, Kevin warned did a very good job.

803
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 2: He added USC and UCLA to make that broadcast rights

804
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: package that much more attractive by getting the West coast

805
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 2: footprint and the l of the valuable LATV markets. It

806
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 2: still strikes me as like a very weird short term tenure,

807
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 2: that it's such a big job, and maybe he was,

808
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 2: you know, pushed out a little bit that like, if

809
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: you don't feel welcome somewhere, it's easier to leave. It

810
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 2: was a little disappointing to me because I remember, I

811
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 2: think he did an interview with I think Brian Gumbele

812
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 2: Real Sports and August or something, and I don't know

813
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 2: if the TV deal had been signed or made official

814
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 2: at that point, but it was such an aster, you know,

815
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: worth as much as seven billion dollars overall. Right, and

816
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 2: Brian gumble ass him about players being paid, athletes, student athletes,

817
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call. The people that played for Minnesota, Indiana,

818
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 2: Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin, whatever. You know, how how

819
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 2: do you sign a deal this big and not have

820
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 2: athletes seeing their their cut in some way and you know,

821
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 2: sort of the Big Ten leading the way and sort

822
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: of forming a system in which players can see more

823
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 2: of the money. And Kevin Warren's response to Brian Gumbel was, Oh, yeah,

824
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 2: that's definitely a priority. That's something we're working on.

825
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: And then four months later Chicago bears Donzo.

826
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was something that like, that was one of

827
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 2: the first things I thought about, was like Kevin Warren,

828
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 2: that was very important, at least publicly on HBO to

829
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 2: say that's a priority for us to figure out a way.

830
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 1: And then he he's out.

831
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: He's out. Yeah, And so that was odd to me.

832
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 2: And so I hope whoever the Big Ten gets next

833
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 2: for their sake and for you know, it's a pretty

834
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 2: it's a sport on shaky ground constantly, and that's sort

835
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 2: of the feature, not the bug. I get it, but

836
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,240
Speaker 2: you want stability a commission.

837
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 3: No.

838
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 2: Jim Phillips was at Northwestern, now he's at the ACC. Obviously,

839
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 2: the Pac twelve just made their own transition. A lot

840
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 2: of name, you know, internally coming up. I know there's

841
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 2: changes at the top with Ohio State that are yet

842
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 2: to come down. And Jean Smith's name has come up

843
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: obviously as a very successful.

844
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 3: Anybody throwing all over luck out yet I feel like

845
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 3: we need to, oh, you've got to throw all over luck.

846
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: And I saw the Patriot leagu commissioner, her name came up.

847
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of names out there. And you

848
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 2: you know, as we've seen a couple of conferences, do

849
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 2: now with the Big twelve of the PAC twelve looking

850
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 2: outside of college administration and sure looking more toward you know,

851
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 2: the media or business worlds. But we'll see with the

852
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 2: Big ten it's an enormous, enormous entity. And whether or

853
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 2: not they're expanding further, I mean that's not on the commissioner.

854
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 2: That's a you know, a president and chancellor type vote,

855
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 2: but a lot of moving pieces, a lot of dollars.

856
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 2: And I have nothing further to add, but kind of

857
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 2: to me again, seem like a long term type job.

858
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 2: And Kevin Warren four, I'm sure he has very good reasons,

859
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 2: said I'm good short with all this college nonsense, A.

860
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 3: Very short tenure as commissioner, but very consequential, very consequential.

861
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 3: Definitely got off to a rocky start with the COVID year,

862
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 3: and I remember we talked to Nicole, we talked to

863
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 3: David Jones, some of our friends who cover the Big

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Speaker 3: Ten a little bit more closely. And the way that

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Speaker 3: he kind of handled that with trying to get everybody

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Speaker 3: on the same page was kind of an abject failure.

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Speaker 1: It didn't Ye, that didn't well, he was just so new.

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Speaker 1: They didn't for him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't have those built in relationships in the

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Speaker 3: way that Jim Delaney did.

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Speaker 1: So definitely off to a rocky start.

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Speaker 3: But landing the plane with the big media deal, landing

873
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 3: the plane with getting USC and UCLA. We could talk

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Speaker 3: about the merits of whether or not that's a good

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00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 3: thing or not, but from a financial from a business standpoint,

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Speaker 3: it definitely ups the value of the Big Ten Conference.

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Speaker 3: There have been things that they have done that I

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Speaker 3: think are are really significant and will probably move the

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Speaker 3: needle for the conference.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget the alliance. Tie the Alliance. Kevin Moran was like.

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Speaker 1: I think I kind of wanted to roy college football

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00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: as it stands. Nowt everybody, you're cool, all of these presidents, Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's do it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one a one man wrecking crew in a sense,

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Speaker 3: King Warren going back to the NF I love the

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Speaker 3: move with the interview.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up.

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Speaker 3: I was thinking that that was the move I pulled

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Speaker 3: when I left my job and I was on the

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00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 3: big project and folks were asking like, well, where is.

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Speaker 1: This thing going?

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00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 3: Is my my bullet points still a priority?

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00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's a huge priority. Of course.

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00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 3: Of course, I'll never talk to you again.

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Speaker 2: The sidebar, sidebar. Yeah, Kevin and Warren and Foxy they

896
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Speaker 2: got it done for the shareholders as I don't know

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Speaker 2: if it's Aaron or met mister Pizza Coli in the

898
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 2: chat right now watching this live Forballers dot Com. But uh,

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Speaker 2: they got their little thing done. And I was like,

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00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 2: all right, you know, uh, I got a call. I

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Speaker 2: just let me yep, okay, thanks by Yeah.

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Speaker 3: On a really sad note, I didn't want to yeah,

903
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 3: gloss over this one. The Georgia football family with some

904
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 3: sad news going through the death of a teammate now

905
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 3: Devin Willick, an offensive lineman alongside a recruiting analyst, Chandeler Lacroix,

906
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 3: killed in a car accident on Sunday, night, really tragic stuff.

907
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 3: There were two other passengers in the car. Warren McClendon,

908
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 3: who was the starting right tackle this year, actually just

909
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 3: declared for the draft. Thankfully only minor injuries for him.

910
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 3: There was another member, another staffer, Victoria Bowles, who was

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00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 3: also in the car at the time. She survived, but

912
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,280
Speaker 3: dealing with some serious injuries as well. So our hearts

913
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 3: go out to everybody in the Georgia football family. Sad

914
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 3: some hate news like this, I don't know, Just condolences

915
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 3: out to the Georgia football family.

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Speaker 1: It's a sad bit of news.

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Speaker 2: Everything can change in an instant now awful.

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Speaker 3: On that somber note, Dan, here's the way it works

919
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 3: for us now as we go into the off season publicly,

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00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 3: you can hear shows every Tuesday and Thursday until further notice.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 3: We will continue to do that all throughout the off season.

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00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 3: The off season I have that in air quotes as

924
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 3: college football continues change and evolve and give us more

925
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 3: news than ever before. If you are a Patreon subscriber,

926
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 3: you can get access to those shows on Monday and Wednesday.

927
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 3: In addition to that early access.

928
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 1: You can also hop on Discord.

929
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 3: You can also hop on and get access to our

930
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 3: bonus Q and a are brewin a as it's known

931
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 3: in the Patreon for Ballerhood, which we drop every Thursday morning.

932
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 3: You can watch that live. There's all sorts of other

933
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 3: perks if you're interested, go on out to verballers dot com,

934
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 3: v R B A L L E rs dot com.

935
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Speaker 3: But to answer the big question, the elephant in the room, Yes,

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00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 3: we will continue broadcasting throughout the off season. We've done

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Speaker 3: so for a decade plus running.

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Speaker 1: We will continue to do that. Here.

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Speaker 2: I cannot stress enough that even if you don't like me,

940
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 2: even if you don't like my takes, even if you

941
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 2: don't like the show all that much, where you go

942
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 2: with this, consider for ballers dot com. It's a terrific place.

943
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 2: It's a terrific community. And most importantly, Tie needs a

944
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Speaker 2: golf simulator. Fund ties golf simulator that dude from maybe

945
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Speaker 2: on the horn man Maybe Okay, here, here's what we'll

946
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Speaker 2: do if if we raise enough money via face verbal

947
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Speaker 2: collective afford yeah, the verbal collective for you to afford

948
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,959
Speaker 2: some sort of premium golf simulator because you can't play

949
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 2: golf in the winter and pa poor you will you

950
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: name specific holes or greens or turns or trees after

951
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 2: people that contribute on Patreon.

952
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 3: This is sort of like the Eisenhower tree.

953
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Amen Amen corner or whatever. The masters we'd

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00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 2: be like, all right, this is the like Steve forty

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Speaker 2: two bunker. Let me let me take me take a

956
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 2: different turn on this. Okay, you heard the dog before.

957
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: Maybe you heard the dog, maybe you didn't. Yeah, you

958
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Speaker 2: heard the dog.

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00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 3: If if we're able to raise enough money, which we're

960
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 3: not going to do this, by the way, but in

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Speaker 3: a hypothetical universe where I were actually I was actually

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Speaker 3: trying to crowdsource this, I would build a new, state

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Speaker 3: of the art studio in my basement, and I would

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Speaker 3: name various objects in the studio that people could see.

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Speaker 3: Because I could drive down the street get to a

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Speaker 3: golf simulator. That's not the end of the whey. I

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Speaker 3: I have access to one, but access to the state

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Speaker 3: of the art facility where I'm not sort of wedged in. Yeah,

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00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 3: that would be the move if I were raising money.

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00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 3: I'm not raising money for this, thank you. The kind

971
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 3: of baller hood is is gracious enough with Patreon, so

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Speaker 3: we're this is good.

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Speaker 2: This is where I beg the user Brent prize Hog

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Speaker 2: to donate voluntarily more money to have the new studio

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Speaker 2: be named Brent prize Hoog Studio.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all.

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Speaker 3: sOliver Bowl dot com is the website. Don't forget to

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Speaker 3: follow along on social media, on YouTube, and of course

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Speaker 3: one more time for Bawlers dot com. Dan, that's all

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Speaker 3: we got for today. Hope your hamstrings do well the

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Speaker 3: rest of the week. Yeah, yeah, so far, so good.

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Speaker 2: We'll see. I'm playing Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday, I think.

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Speaker 3: For that go over there, my good friend Dan RUBERSTI

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Speaker 3: for myself, Tie hilden Brandt. As always, thanks for downloading, listening,

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Speaker 3: supporting the show. Stay warm, stay solid, Peace,