1 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: Revere, Revere Dogs. Look at us now, tip to tip. 2 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the 3 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm 4 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: Brian Campbell. 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat. 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, buggery, Buggery Dogs. Indeed, it is Friday, January fifteenth, 7 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 3: twenty twenty one. This right here with the orange background 8 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 3: on Fridays is Morning Combat, brought to you by the 9 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 3: great folks at CBS Sports, Showtime, Malka and beyond. Thank 10 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 3: you for coming. 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Luke, you are in some kind 19 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 3: of mood today, so I'm ready for anything here, brother, 20 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 3: But how you feeling How is it? 21 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: I'm feeling good. I'm ready for the fights tomorrow. I 22 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: haven't watched any MMA since Christmas, I think, or like 23 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: somewhere around there, like not even. 24 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 3: Forget that great Risen card in between Christmas and not. 25 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 2: Oh, yes, so I did watch that. Sorry, I did 26 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 2: watch that. But since that so basically what now sixteens 27 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: or so days? I haven't watched any MMA. It was 28 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: a nice little detox, I have to tell you, but 29 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 2: I watched them tape last night in preparation for today's show. 30 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 2: Ready to go ho. 31 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 3: Ichy Bond Brother. Luckily, JMMA has kept us satiated, but 32 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 3: the UFC is back this weekend. A little bit of 33 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 3: business to clean up, of course. 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Also, you want to 54 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 3: try Showtime and it'd be a great time to do 55 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 3: that because Showtime Championship Boxing is back next week. By 56 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 3: the way, you can get it for thirty days for 57 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 3: free going to Showtime dot com. And if you need 58 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 3: one reason to do it, Okay, how about that comedy 59 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 3: store documentary series? Okay, yeah, check it. Check that out. 60 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 3: Big Brown shows up in that, so check that out. Indeed, Luke, 61 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 3: are you have you built any barricades in the front 62 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 3: yard for the inauguration next week? Everything good with that 63 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:13,119 Speaker 3: in the Nation's. 64 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 2: Capitol, No, No, I'm pretty far away. I think it'll 65 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: be I mean, far enough away I should say I 66 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: think it'll be okay, but could get a little dicey. 67 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: I guess we're gonna there's no way to really know. 68 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 2: I guess we're gonna see. So I'm gonna basically just 69 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: remain reasonably optimistic and then hope that the world doesn't end. 70 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 2: That's it, right, all right? 71 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 3: Well, Well, thoughts and prayers out to you and your people, 72 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,119 Speaker 3: Luke as well. I mean, this is a crazy time. 73 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 3: Pat Militant's just lost his announcing job. It's crazy out there, Luke, 74 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 3: all right, it's a yeah. 75 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know, don't take pictures with people 76 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 2: giving white supremac signs is basically the seems like fairly 77 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: obvious advice. But I maybe I'm you know, maybe I'm 78 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: missing something. 79 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe you are indeed, as we as we record this. 80 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 3: Oh by the way, Dana Waite is meeting with hell 81 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 3: be moock about off. More on that to come. If 82 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 3: there's any breaking news, we will jump on top of 83 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 3: that as well. But look, are you ready to start 84 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 3: it off here? We got a lot to get into so. 85 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: This weekend, I am ready to go, my friend, please, 86 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:09,119 Speaker 2: all right. 87 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 3: The UFC is back, fresh off in Incredible twenty twenty. 88 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 3: Despite the quarantine and the pandemic, they returned to Fight 89 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,239 Speaker 3: Island with the first of three cards in eight days. 90 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 3: Of course, you're gonna get Econo McGregor Dustin Poortya two 91 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 3: in a little more than a week, but a big one. 92 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 3: This Saturday, three pm Eastern Time in the afternoon is 93 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 3: the beginning of that main card UFC on ABC one 94 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 3: from Etty Hot Arena. Expected two thousand in attendance and 95 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 3: a really good main event. You want to talk about 96 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 3: the potential for all actions featherweights Max Holloway Calvin Cater, 97 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: both ranked in the top ten lot at steakhare Luke. 98 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 3: When you look at this matchup, when you put on 99 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 3: those analysis glasses that you wear each day, what are 100 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 3: you looking to see the most that will decide who 101 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 3: wins this fight? When these two touch gloves Saturday. 102 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: You know these guys, there's a fair amount of tape 103 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: on both of them. Obviously a lot more for Holloway, 104 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 2: especially in the World Championship upper level kind of fights, 105 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: but their records are pretty similar in terms of the 106 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 2: overall number of fights. In fact, I think they're, let's see, 107 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 2: almost close to they're almost the same as twenty one 108 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 2: and six for Max Holloway versus twenty two and four 109 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 2: for Calvin Cater. These these guys, there's a fair I mean, 110 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: you can know a lot about them by watching their 111 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 2: last three or four fights. They a lot of them 112 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 2: send to go several rounds. In the case of Cater 113 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 2: went and Egay went fall full five. So you really 114 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 2: have a sense of what these guys do when they're 115 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 2: doing well. And what I mean to say is, whenever 116 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 2: I think about who wins a fight, more often than not, 117 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: what they tend to do is they tend to examine, 118 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 2: what are the conditions under which my opponent does well? Now, 119 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 2: what can I do with my existing skills to take 120 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: that away? With Calvin Cater, he is again slow starters, 121 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: of bit of an exaggeration, but he is better later 122 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 2: than earlier. Okay, so that's one thing. So you know, 123 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: getting a strong start I think will probably be a 124 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 2: benefit to Max Holloway. But more than that, Cater doesn't 125 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 2: throw a ton of volume. He's a good counter striker, 126 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: and he eats a lot of leg kicks less so 127 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: than he used to. I think that's somewhat of an 128 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: overstated thing. But it is something you could take advantage 129 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 2: of adding in throughout the pieces there, and tends to 130 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: throw boxing combinations in concert with stationary opponents that he 131 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 2: faints with his rear leg. He does a lot of 132 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 2: rear leg fancying a lot of teaping against aggressing opponents. 133 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 2: So for Max Holloway, and he also has a three 134 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 2: inch reach advantage over Holloway, Holloway has, by contrast, a 135 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 2: much higher output. He gets hit a lot, but he 136 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: also lands a lot too. In fact, both guys have 137 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 2: a little bit of this, but he's got three inch 138 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: reach disadvantage and he really has to get inside that range. 139 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 2: So here's what I'm looking for Calvin Cator. It's really 140 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: going to be about whether he is leading or whether 141 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: he is backing up. It is going to be about countering. 142 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 2: The counters are going to have to be huge to 143 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: deter the volume and the pressure. I think potentially of 144 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 2: Max Holloway, it's gonna be getting out of the way 145 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 2: those leg kicks. It's gonna be nimble footwork, and it's 146 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 2: gonna be letting those boxing combinations go. If he's throwing 147 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: one or two shots and then moving, it's really not 148 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 2: the way he does his best work. Traditionally, speaking by contrast, 149 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: if you're Max Holloway, if you see a lot of 150 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: volume from him, and a lot of it is landing 151 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: if he's getting off first and the counters, by the way, 152 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 2: for for Cater are not landing. If cater'sn't really able 153 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,679 Speaker 2: to use that real like the really kick through to pressure, 154 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: because I think he's gonna be getting turned a lot. 155 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: One thing that folks don't really realize about. Max Holloway 156 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 2: is very good about turning opposition constantly, so they can't set, 157 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 2: they can't really get things going the way they normally would. 158 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: You know, these are the things you're looking for. These 159 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 2: are the ways in which they tend to have a 160 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 2: bit of strength. The one last thing I'd add is 161 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: Cater can fight backing up. You saw he knocked out 162 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 2: Jeremy Stevens really well. He can play with range a lot. 163 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 2: He'll freeze you with the teep and then he'll come 164 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 2: charging over with an overhand that you don't see coming. 165 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: He'll change both the type of strike he's throwing and 166 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 2: then the speed and the range at which he throws it, 167 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 2: which is why he was able to land that elbow 168 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: on Jeremy Stevens eventually as well. Playing with that range 169 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: is gonna be interesting. Max really kind of has to 170 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: do it. But the key is I tend to think, 171 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 2: excuse me, I tend to think Cater is better tend 172 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: to when he's pressuring versus when he's getting pressured. He 173 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: can win either way. I think his best work comes 174 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 2: like that. So a few of these details BC for 175 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 2: me are what I'm going to be paying attention to. 176 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, good stuff right there, and certainly no shortage 177 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 3: of stakes here. Max Holloway coming in as the number 178 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 3: one ranked fatherweight, you'd have to believe a victory here 179 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 3: gets him really right back to the damn title, considering 180 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 3: he's lost to in a row to Volkanovski. But obviously 181 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 3: that rematch last July UFC two fifty one was as 182 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 3: disputed or split as you can have there. It's hard 183 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 3: for anybody to get a trilogy after losing the first two. 184 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 3: But look, I have to believe against the number six 185 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 3: rank Cater that Max gets the win here. He's gonna 186 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 3: be looking very pretty looking at being on a great 187 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 3: spot to get that. Obviously, for Cater, we talked about 188 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 3: sort of the storylines heading in earlier this week. This 189 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 3: is his opportunity to crash the party of the very 190 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 3: elite and get a monster, big fight after this. But 191 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 3: how you just laid out the xes and o's of 192 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 3: what we should expect right now? This fight's not going 193 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 3: to go to the ground, Luke right? And if it's 194 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 3: not going to go to the ground, or to see that, yeah, 195 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 3: you know, Cater's reach advantage is going to be interesting. 196 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 3: I certainly respect his power and his toughness. But Max 197 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 3: has shown you, specifically in that Volkanovsky rematch, that IQ wise, 198 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 3: that distance management wise, that volume wise, he's just super elite. 199 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 3: He's of the elite top shelf. So do you believe 200 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 3: that Calvin Cat can win a decision against Max Holloway 201 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 3: or he's got to go in there and do something 202 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 3: that we just haven't seen against the elite version of 203 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 3: Max Holloway, which is going there and knock him out. 204 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 2: Uh, here's what's interesting. You know Max is twenty nine. 205 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: He's actually younger than Cater. Let me read you some 206 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: status here that I pulled. So Max lamb six point 207 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 2: four to seven strikes per minute and absorbs four point 208 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 2: five to two, which is extremely high on both ends. 209 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 2: He lands a lot of damage, he eats a lot 210 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 2: of it. Here's the interesting part about it. Calvin Cator 211 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 2: lands five per minute, which is also very high, but 212 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 2: he eats five point sixty six. He eats more than 213 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 2: he lands, which is a negative differential and not necessarily 214 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 2: all that great. I think to me, one thing you 215 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 2: can expect is it's probably gonna be a slug fest 216 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: both ways, coming and going. Yeah, but of the two 217 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 2: unless he is kind of trashed at this point, which 218 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 2: I don't think is the reality. You know, Max is 219 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 2: gonna have the better chin, I think, and I think 220 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 2: that's gonna make a pretty big difference. He's gonna be 221 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 2: more of voluminous and a better job. To answer your question, 222 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 2: if Max can't take a shot, this is a big 223 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 2: problem for him because his entire style is predicated a 224 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: little bit on blood and guts. I mean's much more 225 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: than that strategy. It's smarts, it's a lot of things, 226 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 2: but it's a lot of blood and guts. I'm looking 227 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: to see, like how fresh does Max look? Those fights 228 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: of Lookanovski. They you know, he got he got landed on, 229 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: but he didn't get beat up actually like, he didn't 230 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: leave with a busted eye or a broken rib, so 231 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 2: he should be in good shape here. If he's not, 232 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 2: that would be a really bad sign for him. 233 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 3: And the problem for sort of betting on Cater as 234 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 3: a live dog here is you have to be betting 235 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 3: on what you just said that Max isn't going to 236 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 3: be the same Max. And although he's been in a 237 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 3: million fights and many you know, exciting wars, he's still 238 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 3: only twenty nine. Every time I think there's something bad 239 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 3: coming for Max, that it's going to be a slow 240 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 3: recovery from that whole incident right coming off of two 241 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 3: twenty three and then the Bisbee interview, Good god, he 242 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 3: came back in the next fight. He just absolutely showed 243 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 3: us that he's so adaptable and able to bounce back 244 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 3: and able to just constantly stay at that elite level. Luke, 245 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 3: long term, I don't know, you know, he's got a 246 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 3: style long term that I hope, I hope it does 247 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 3: his health well. But right now I just can't bet 248 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 3: on that idea that we're going to see a diminished Max, 249 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 3: not what recent memory has shown me. It's weird to 250 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 3: be this confident, obviously about a guy who has lost 251 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 3: three or four coming in. We can't avoid that. It's 252 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 3: the Poorier fight, which was like an instant classic at 253 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 3: a weight class above, and the two Volkanovski fights, which 254 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,599 Speaker 3: were not only really close but as you mentioned, not 255 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 3: a lot of damage. Those were chess matches in many ways. 256 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 3: So I just can't see Max coming in as anything 257 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 3: but elite. Max in it under that heading, Luke, Cater 258 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 3: as tough as balls. If you are not of you 259 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 3: know of a certain ill kill gets you out of there. 260 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 3: But if you are, I haven't seen that yet from 261 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 3: Calvin Cat that he can make the biggest of leaps. 262 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 3: He made the leaps from you know, tough guy to 263 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 3: quasi contender. Here to make that next leap, I don't 264 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 3: think you can do that against a guy like Max. 265 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 3: Too smart, too savvy, too versatile, too tough at the 266 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 3: end of the day. So Luke, this is the perfect 267 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 3: matchup to get potentially really good ratings in the afternoon 268 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 3: on ABC and to you know, draw in casual fans 269 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 3: who don't watch a lot, because it'll be fun as 270 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 3: heck and it'll be on the feet. But Kater's tailor 271 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 3: made for Holloway deal with that it. 272 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 2: Is true sort of. I mean, the one thing I 273 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 2: would say is Taylor made I don't know, but Volkanovsky 274 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 2: to the point we were just making Volkanovsky. I mean, 275 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 2: was he trying to knock Max out. I'm sure he 276 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 2: would have preferred that, right, I mean, that's something he 277 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 2: was probably in his mind hoping would happen. But that's 278 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 2: really not what his style is built on. His style 279 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: is built on winning each moment of around and then 280 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 2: adding up all those pieces. It's death by a thousand 281 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 2: cuts when Volkanovsky was fighting Holloway and by the end, 282 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 2: of course, he was sliced to pieces. You know. Again, 283 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 2: there's some debate about that, but you get the idea 284 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: that that was the way he was doing it. Cater 285 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 2: doesn't win that way. Kater wins. He can thump, by 286 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 2: the way, but he wins when he does really good 287 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 2: counterboxing and he puts, you know, four or five punch 288 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: combinations together and he digs to the body. I think 289 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 2: Max is going to intercept and land I should say, 290 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 2: absorb some of that. Some of that is really going 291 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 2: to come his way. But the problem for that is 292 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: that has not been shown. Even with the big power 293 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: of Dustin plarier to be the kind of thing that 294 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 2: can put Max away. Max stood in there all five 295 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 2: rounds up a weight class with one of that weight 296 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: class's biggest punchers. You know, is Calvin Cater that guy? 297 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think so. So again, unless Max 298 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 2: has really deteriorated, or he just finds the perfect shot, 299 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 2: he's going to land on Max. But if your style 300 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: is I'm gonna just wallop Max until we get into 301 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 2: submission like I do everybody else. Man, that's a hard 302 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 2: way to beat this version of Max. Maybe in three 303 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 2: four years it won't be, but it is right now, Luke. 304 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 3: I tend to believe in general that the odds makers 305 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 3: no more than I do. They're typically on. Yes, there's 306 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 3: times we look at a line and we go I 307 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 3: just don't get that. I don't see that, And sometimes 308 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 3: they're wrong, right, but they win more than they lose 309 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 3: for a reason. Our friends at William Hill have it 310 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 3: minus one six ' one Holloway as the favorite and 311 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 3: Cater only a plus one point thirty underdog. To me, 312 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 3: that's shocking because flip of a coin, Holloway is still 313 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 3: You're champion right now, and I don't you know, if 314 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 3: this was a title defense, I don't think the odds 315 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 3: would be this close. What have they seen that we 316 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 3: didn't see? Am I just drinking the max juice? Like 317 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 3: it's a sports bottle with CKB written on it going 318 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 3: down your throat? What are we missing here? 319 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 2: Are you Ron Mexico at the airport with your water 320 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 2: bottle that has the marijuana in it? I would say 321 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 2: that probably two things. One, Cater's looked really good. You know, 322 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 2: that knockout of Stevens was pretty incredible. The win over 323 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 2: Egay was well contested, but not especially close by the 324 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 2: time the fight was over. Meanwhile, Holloway has had two 325 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 2: fights where he's lost. Granted some folks think he won 326 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 2: both of them, but in the end they were inistered 327 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 2: as l's both times, and there's a question about like 328 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 2: where is Holloway now? Like is this even a division 329 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 2: for his future? Also, what they're betting on here is 330 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 2: I'm not sure that the direction they went with this one, 331 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 2: but sometimes the odds can be changed a little bit 332 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: or shifted so that they induced maximum I mean, has 333 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 2: that happened here? I'm not so sure, but good point. 334 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 2: There's always a lot of factors there. But I think 335 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: it's a little too close personally, but not not crazy. 336 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 2: So I mean, Calvin Cator has gotten way better. He 337 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 2: stayed consistent. He's a legitimate threat. It's just that Max 338 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 2: Holloway again. To bet against Max Holloway, I kind of 339 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 2: feel like you have to think that everything we know 340 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 2: about him, he's a lesser version of that, because if 341 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 2: he's still that version, that's that's just too hard of 342 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: a climb I think for Cater at this stage. 343 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 3: And dude, I've bet against Matt, not Max, not with money, 344 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 3: but like you know, making predictions here too many times 345 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 3: to learn my lesson now that I can't do it again. 346 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 3: As I've staid it before, I thought, although it was 347 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 3: gonna beat him both times, guy I thought Patis was 348 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 3: gonna beat him. I thought, uh yeah, I mean, come on, 349 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 3: you know, the guy's fantastic. But again, respect to Cator, 350 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 3: as you mentioned, coming in having won four or five, 351 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 3: the only loss to the guy who I think is 352 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 3: the best in this division is to beat and oh, 353 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 3: by the way, he was having you know, a big 354 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 3: success in that final round. So U can't wait to 355 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 3: see this fight because it's gonna entertain and it really matters, 356 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 3: and if Max wins, like we said, get ready, get 357 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 3: ready down there in New Zealand, because if you get 358 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 3: by Ortega, He's coming for that trilogy, okay, Luke, and 359 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 3: Data's gonna give it to him. You know he will, 360 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 3: you know he will, Luke, you know that. 361 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 2: Okay, there are. 362 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 3: Things you know, Luke, you know that, all right, Louke, 363 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 3: This cole Main event is certainly a hashtag old guy fight, 364 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 3: a super sloppy special when Carlos Condent takes on Matt Brown, 365 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 3: Can you please tell me what I'm missing again on 366 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 3: the odds makers, How the hell is Carlos Condent the 367 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 3: betting favorite here. I'm not trying to tell you that 368 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 3: Matt Brown's the same guy he was, you know, heading 369 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 3: into that Robbie Lawler fight many years ago. But when 370 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 3: I see recent history, Luke, I'm not seeing it. Bro 371 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 3: you want to. 372 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 2: Make money, I gotta tell you that one's a little 373 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 2: bit surprising as well. Now both guys are clearly past 374 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 2: their prime. I think that's you know, not did he 375 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 2: kind of disrespect just the reality of the situation and 376 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 2: the win over Court McGee was good, But I think 377 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 2: for for Carlos, although there's a question about like where 378 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 2: you know Court was in that fight relative to the 379 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 2: rest of his career, Like is he on the up 380 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 2: and up? And Matt Brown has been off for a while. Well, no, 381 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 2: that's not true. It's not He was only fighting in May. 382 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 2: So they fought once last year, not a ton of activity, 383 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 2: and he lost to Miguel Biaza. And it's like, let 384 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 2: me see, he beat Sanchez and Saunders before that, and 385 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 2: he stopped him both, and then the guys he lost 386 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 2: to before that were Maya Ellenberger back in twenty sixteen 387 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 2: and then Seroni. Like in other words, he was he's 388 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 2: only ever lost to contenders, And I think Miguel Biaza 389 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 2: is like maybe the next big thing in MMA, Like 390 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 2: he is a very very, very talented guy. And so 391 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 2: for Brown to go nearly two rounds with him, to me, 392 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 2: it's like that's I mean, I don't know if conduct 393 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 2: would have gone to I mean, yeah, the same kind 394 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 2: of fate would have met him. So to me, like 395 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 2: the fact that they have this one is like a 396 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 2: I won't say a clear condit favorite in terms of 397 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 2: the odds, but you know they lean in that direction 398 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 2: tells me that they're probably doing this to induce betting 399 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 2: or something like that. It's not an accurate reflection because 400 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 2: I think Brown has looked better of late than Condent 401 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 2: has now styleis mcfights. Brown is again, as I mentioned, 402 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 2: a little bit older. He's had a known susceptibility to 403 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 2: the body for a long long time. But Carlos Condent man, 404 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 2: you know, he never really recovered from those war. That war, 405 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 2: I should say with Robbi Lawler, I don't think he 406 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 2: was ever the same after that. I don't think Lawler 407 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 2: was ever the same after that. I don't think you 408 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 2: could be after getting into a car crash like that. 409 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 2: And while he was able to really focus and maximize 410 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 2: what skills he has remaining to get a clear win 411 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 2: over Court McGee, I think he dropped him in that 412 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 2: fight as well, which is nice. I don't know. Brown's 413 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 2: a bit of a different animal. He's He's a little 414 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 2: bit more aggressive. I think he's a little bit more 415 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 2: potent as an offensive striker. He's got a little bit 416 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 2: more skills I think on the ground in certain ways. 417 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. BC. I mean this one. I think 418 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 2: you'd be foolish to go hard in the paint either way. 419 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 2: Good point, but but you know, because listen, the bottom 420 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 2: can out on either of these guys at basically any point. 421 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 2: So I think having a bit of a let's see 422 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 2: what happens kind of attitude is probably the best way 423 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 2: to go up. 424 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 3: And I'm certainly not gonna bet my salary this week 425 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 3: on Matt Brown's chin at forty after being through so 426 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,719 Speaker 3: many wars, but he is a finisher. And again, and 427 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 3: what I saw in that content fight against Court McGee 428 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 3: was a guy who still had the technique, still had 429 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 3: the smarts, but Luke, he was a step and a 430 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 3: half behind in really every situation. I mean, the speed, 431 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 3: the lack of speed and reaction time in comparison to 432 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 3: who he was to me was startling. So I like 433 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 3: Matt Brown in this one, and I certainly like him big, 434 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 3: even though this could be a wild brawl either way. 435 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 3: Good matchmaking by the way, and you know, interesting to 436 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 3: put this as the co main event, but you're gonna 437 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 3: get people to care about it, Luke. How much should 438 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 3: we care about Santiago ponzinibbio at thirty four, coming off 439 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 3: of a two year layoff due to injuries, going in 440 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 3: here against the Leech is Santiago still a sort of 441 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 3: sneaky long term title threat. What do you expect of him? 442 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. You know, the leech has been every 443 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 2: time I bet against him, he wins, and then every 444 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 2: time I'm like, all right, I've learned my lesson, he's 445 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 2: gonna win. Now he gets smoked. It's like I can't 446 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 2: get a beat on him. And ponzin Nibbio. I thought 447 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 2: looked really good when he fought in Argentina and was 448 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 2: sort of the king of the hill at the time, 449 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 2: and then he hasn't fought really I don't think since then. 450 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, I could be. But the point 451 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 2: being is he has been a really interesting developing product 452 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 2: that really worked on his craft. But it's been two years. 453 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 2: Like for some of these guys, the two years off 454 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 2: is a killer. They don't look the same, or at 455 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 2: least take them some time to get back, especially at 456 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 2: thirty four. Other ones, they kind of pick up where 457 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 2: they left off. I tend to think that the best 458 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 2: Ponzinibio should be able to beat the best Jing Lang Lee. 459 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 2: I just don't know what versions were really going to get. 460 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 2: I would lean towards the Argentine HEREBC, but Yeah, I 461 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 2: don't have a strong read on it. 462 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it makes it intriguing to really see where 463 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 3: he's at. But let's not forget the he's won, you know, 464 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 3: something like five or six in a row. And the 465 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 3: three most recent wins from Ponzinibio was Neil Magni, Mike Perry, 466 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 3: and uh, who's the third one? Pretty good name there 467 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 3: as well, great show, oh Gunner Nelson, So you know, 468 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 3: I mean, please put together some nice wins there. Took 469 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 3: some time off, Luke. Joaquin Buckley's looking to continue to 470 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 3: build upon the highlight reel of last year's Knockout of 471 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 3: the Year, and he came back with a win in 472 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 3: the one after that. He's got Alessio di Scherko here, 473 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,959 Speaker 3: who's coming off a three fight losing streak. Is this 474 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 3: just a setup to get Joaquin another? Uh? Have you 475 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 3: seen this shit moment Dikarico. 476 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 2: Well, they both have losses to Kevin Holland. And what 477 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 2: was kind of surprising was I thought that Dicorico was 478 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 2: going to beat Zach Cummings and didn't, So I set 479 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 2: up I don't know, set up a strong word. I 480 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 2: think that they're still trying to nurture Joaquin Buckley. I 481 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 2: think that part is true. Dicarico. I don't think it 482 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 2: is some kind of scrub. I just don't know, you know, 483 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 2: is he really UFC ready is a UFC material and 484 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 2: like the real kind of sort of longitudinal sense, I 485 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, he's one of these guys to 486 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 2: me that so far, what he has shown has been like, 487 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 2: you know, if you need someone when you do a 488 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 2: European show, he'd probably a good place to fit on that. 489 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 2: He's of a good enough level and then would be 490 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 2: an appropriate fit for that kind of a show. With 491 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 2: the UFC doing a little bit less of that because 492 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 2: of the current pandemic, you know, and it's a little 493 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 2: bit more of just like what you can do because 494 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 2: we're not really trying to cater to a particular kind 495 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 2: of geographic region or audience in the same kind of way. 496 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 2: You know, the questions about ultimate value began to emerge 497 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 2: a little bit more readily, and I think that's what 498 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 2: you have here. I mean, listen, there's no good reason 499 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 2: why Buckley should lose. I think Dikarico can make it 500 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 2: a fight, and he can make it interesting, but he's 501 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 2: not the same kind of athlete. He's older, he doesn't 502 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 2: have the same kind of record, he doesn't have the 503 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 2: same kind of power. You know, Buckley should not lose. 504 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 3: How how soul taking is it of me? Who was 505 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 3: trying hard there with the name pronunciation, I butcher pronunciations 506 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 3: in the moment. A lot some people think it's due 507 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 3: to ignorance. Some people think it's forced racism. It's really 508 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 3: just a character flaw. I look at that. I go, oh, 509 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 3: I'm gonna get this right. I'm gonna charm this man 510 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 3: Di cher Rico. And You're like, no, it's Dick Rico. 511 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 2: I mean, like, how you know De Corico not Dick Rico. 512 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 3: I mean, it's just, you know, It's like the time 513 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 3: I remember one of my first big boxing interviews when 514 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 3: I worked at ESPN, like a decade ago, was John Pascal, 515 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 3: you know, the former light heavyweight champion, and I remember 516 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 3: being all nervous in the beginning of the phone interview 517 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 3: and I wanted to get it right. So I'm like, Jean, 518 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 3: I just want to you know, I don't want to 519 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 3: be like the you know, an American who comes out 520 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 3: and calls hard say it. I remember saying to him, 521 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 3: is it Jean Pascal jun Jin Jean. His response, Luke, 522 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 3: just call me Jeene Pascal. I am not kidding, That's 523 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 3: what he said. He said it's Gene. He's like, yeah, 524 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 3: just call me Gene Pascal. I tried, Luke, I tried, 525 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 3: and it's apparently Dick Rico. 526 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 2: Luke. 527 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 3: Any other fights on here that get that get your 528 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 3: fants did? 529 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 2: The more you butcher people's names from countries that you've 530 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: never visited or lands you don't know a lot about, 531 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 2: you're only giving into the idea that everyone who criticized 532 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 2: you for the j M M A stuff was right. 533 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 2: Just just to sort of point that out here. I 534 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 2: want to be very. 535 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 3: Clear, Luke, Okay, they don't know me. 536 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 2: That's true. They don't, which is why I am endlessly forgiving. 537 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 2: But you should try to make an effort. What's the question. 538 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 3: This is the rest of this card? Anything else moving you? 539 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 3: I mean, look, Poona Poona is gonna be in a brawl. 540 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 3: It's gonna be fun, right, yes? 541 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 2: Uh that the Poona Heele Soriano fight is big. Phil 542 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 2: Hawes is back. You know, he had that terrible sort 543 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:48,479 Speaker 2: of spate in his career. He was like, oh, I'm 544 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 2: gonna be the next big thing. Everyone thought it could 545 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 2: be the next big thing. Then he gets beat up 546 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 2: on Contender series and has a bunch of losses after that, 547 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 2: and then righted the ship and looked awesome. In his 548 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 2: last fight, he's fighting against nasur Adine Imovov, and I'm 549 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 2: sure I'm fucking that name up because I don't know 550 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 2: any better. I just want to be clear about that. 551 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 3: Such a racist. This is great. 552 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, keep going now, I'm fucking well. You know what, 553 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 2: It's kind of funny. It's his name is Nas Sordine 554 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 2: and Dean in Arabic means light or is it lighter faith, 555 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 2: one of the two because my buddy's name, my buddy's 556 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 2: name is Norden, which is light of the faith. It's 557 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 2: one of the two. In any event, this is kind 558 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 2: of a similar name. That's probably about Sarah Morris's back. 559 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 2: I'm a fan of hers. That's justin. Tafa is back 560 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 2: as well against carls Felipe. But the big one for 561 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 2: me is Phil Hawes. I won't see what Phil has 562 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,959 Speaker 2: And by the way, Phil Hawes versus Nas Sordine Imovov 563 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 2: is a damn near Pickham. They've got Hawes as a 564 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 2: minus one fifteen to Imovov's plus one oh five, So 565 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 2: very very tight. 566 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 3: Fight there, love it, Love this card. Love the twelve 567 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 3: noon Eastern time prelim start, Luke, the same breakfast at Wimbledon, 568 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 3: like we're gonna get next Wednesday. But it's it's great, 569 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 3: This is this is how I want to live Saturdays, Luke. 570 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 2: You know it ruins my Saturday with my family because 571 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 2: I can't do anything. But sure. 572 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 3: I figured after the big accident this morning in your house, 573 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 3: you'd be looking to get away from family time. 574 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 2: Right, Well I don't. I'm not looking to get away 575 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 2: from my children. BC. I don't know what kind of 576 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 2: life you live. But yes, I'm glad MMA is back. 577 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 2: It's interesting to have it at noon, but it just 578 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 2: makes my life kind of hard because you know, I 579 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 2: gotta find gym time in the morning, but I have 580 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 2: to get up with the kid. It's gonna be a 581 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 2: little bit of a challenge. 582 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 3: But we'll see if you're you know, people call children 583 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 3: the kid usually people that don't have children. I mean, 584 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 3: that's a little disrespectful to. 585 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 2: Your family, is it? Is it, Dick Rico? Is that 586 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 2: what it is? 587 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 3: Oh? By the way, I forgot to say earlier. Please 588 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 3: check out our bonus Morning Combat interviews this week, Luke, 589 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 3: Michael Chandler, we got Michael Kisa also your fantastic chat 590 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 3: with the great Dustin Poorrier still lingering and breaking YouTube 591 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 3: click records, so please check those out. We'll have more 592 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 3: on that next week, as both of those two first 593 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 3: gentlemen I mentioned have some big fights coming up. But 594 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 3: it's a microphone issues. During it, Luca was yeah. 595 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 2: Well, within the first three seconds it just went very yeah. 596 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 3: I'm not happy with Jay Aaron here with the quality 597 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 3: of the content he sends me. But all right, Luke, 598 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 3: let's roll on here. We got through all things UFC 599 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 3: Fight Night, and now the topics moves to this. We're 600 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 3: gonna get to Conor McGregor in a second. But as 601 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 3: I tease off the top, let's hit this right now. 602 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 3: I'm checking my phone constantly to make sure I don't 603 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 3: miss anything. But boys, Dana White T's in the bag 604 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 3: today is his meeting with the beeB. Normaga met Offen 605 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 3: right before we went on the air. He put out 606 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 3: this video on Twitter of them literally entering the room 607 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 3: and Data closing the door in our face. Luke, that 608 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 3: was a poignant moment right there. He's really trying to 609 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 3: show us how hard he's working. Dana has been quoted 610 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 3: this week is saying this will be a five minute meeting. 611 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 3: It's either yes or no. Oh do you have any 612 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 3: extra comments, expectations, secret strategies that Dana might have, Like, 613 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 3: I mean, what is he gonna do here? Offer Habib's 614 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 3: mom something? What do you do here to get this 615 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 3: legend back in? 616 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 2: Dude, I'm I'm not one of these people who's like, 617 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 2: who cares about this shit? It's like the guy retired. 618 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 2: You know, if they made another fight, that'd be cool. 619 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 2: You know, I get another big fight for us to cover, 620 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 2: that's fun. I don't know, man, I'm not one of 621 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 2: these guys who's like, oh, man, are they gonna make it? 622 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 2: Dana's into big meet and blah blah blah, We're gonna 623 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 2: get the GSP fight. I don't know what that. It doesn't, 624 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 2: it doesn't. He's like, Wow, a guy who fought once 625 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 2: in eight years, Habib's gonna fight. He's gonna fuck that 626 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 2: guy up. Like I'm sure. 627 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 3: Dana, to be honest with you, Luke, I'm sure Dana 628 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 3: is more interested in a Connor rematch than the GSP fight. 629 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 3: I don't think Dana has any interest to be honest 630 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 3: in a GSP fight. 631 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 2: I do think so you think it's about like getting 632 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 2: to fight Connor one more time. 633 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 3: I personally believe that's what it is. I think he's 634 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 3: gonna leave after into your father wanted you to go 635 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 3: thirty and oh, I think it would help matters And 636 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 3: this is maybe what Dana's talking about. If Connor obviously 637 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 3: wins next week, that would help matters a lot. 638 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 4: Uh. 639 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 3: You know what I've said before, what could really pissed 640 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 3: herbib off. But it's a gamble. But at this point, 641 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 3: he's already saying he's not gonna fight, so you might 642 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 3: as well gamble is publicly strip him at the next 643 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 3: fight and then say, you know, Connor fights for it. 644 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 3: And if Connor wins that belt, then you call hebby 645 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 3: back up one more time, you know. I mean, maybe 646 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 3: you get in the room with Connor and you say, 647 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 3: let's do some pro wrestling bullshit, Let's make this guy angry. 648 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 3: I don't know, I mean, that's that's pretty childish, but 649 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,239 Speaker 3: I don't know what else you can do unless when 650 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 3: they sit down with that table right now, Dana's putting 651 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 3: out like a you know, a pound of heroin or 652 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 3: or a million million dollars in singles. I don't know 653 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 3: what what else could he offer him? 654 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 2: Listen, if he wants to come back and fight, I'd 655 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 2: be happy to have him. We're lucky to have been 656 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 2: able to watch an athlete of his caliber and someone 657 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 2: of his skill, who I think changed the game in 658 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 2: many ways do what he did. It's not that I'm like, oh, 659 00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 2: I don't care about herbib. It'd be awesome to have. 660 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 2: I mean, in every way imaginable, but I don't want 661 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 2: him back. If he doesn't want to come back now, 662 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 2: maybe Dana can convince him to want to come back, 663 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 2: and you know, there's something to be said for you know, 664 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 2: priming the pump a little bit. Uh, But I tend 665 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 2: to think that if you have to cajole someone back, 666 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, I'm not one of these 667 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 2: guys who's like, Dana's got this big meeting. I don't 668 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 2: give a shit If he gets it, great, if I 669 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 2: get I know, if he gets it, listen, if he 670 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,719 Speaker 2: gets what he wants, great, Like, there's nothing bad for 671 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 2: me about it. If he doesn't get it. I'm just 672 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 2: going to pay attention to everything else that's happening in May, 673 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 2: which by the way, is pretty exciting for the most part. So, like, 674 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 2: I know, it sounds like, oh, Rook's everything. I don't. 675 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 2: I don't hate it. I'm not against it. Like, go 676 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 2: do what you want to do. It's fine. 677 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 3: I just wrote a column yesterday for CBS Sports that's 678 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 3: basically saying YU She's poised to have like their biggest 679 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 3: year this year since like the year might sail. I 680 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 3: mean they are, they are running and gunning, pandemic or not. 681 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 3: They are in a great spot. The next seven fight 682 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 3: cards they've announced are loaded through March. You got John 683 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 3: Jones going to heavyweight, you got steep at and Gone. 684 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 3: I mean, you've got a lot of great things happening now. 685 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 3: But Luke, there's a reason. 686 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 2: Let me let me just let me say one lesson, 687 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 2: but let me explain you how I feel about this though, 688 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 2: maybebe you can better understand. It's like when Taylor Swift 689 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 2: comes out with a new album and everyone I follow 690 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 2: on Twitter is like, Oh, isn't this such a great album? 691 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 2: This music is amazing? God, this song really cuts deep 692 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 2: and I'm looking at this as if these people are 693 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 2: talking about eating out of the garbage like. It doesn't 694 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 2: move me that way at all. I can't tell you 695 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 2: that Taylor Swift is good or bad. It's just not. 696 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 2: It doesn't. It doesn't move me. I don't understand it. 697 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 2: So to me, if they get what they want, great, 698 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 2: If they don't, we have a lot to look forward to. 699 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 2: I just can't walk around and pretend like my pants 700 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 2: are around my ankles over this meeting and be lying 701 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 2: to you. I don't want to lie to anybody. It 702 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 2: doesn't move me in that way. 703 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,719 Speaker 3: Well, the first thing I do when I make them 704 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 3: toss my salad, syrup or jelly Luke, I just like 705 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,719 Speaker 3: the reason obviously, why Dana. Why I'm assuming Dana has 706 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 3: such ridiculous lust for all things connor habib to Luke 707 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 3: is because it's gonna shatter records and make stupid money. 708 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 3: I mean, Dana just predicted two days ago that a 709 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 3: rematch could do three million buys, considering the first one 710 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 3: did a UFC record two point four million reported buys? Like, 711 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 3: do we underestimate what a record breaking number like that 712 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,959 Speaker 3: means to UFC business? I don't. I don't really know 713 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:26,719 Speaker 3: how to place that. 714 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 2: You mean, the second Connor fight. 715 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 3: Like like yeah, like like Dana's unbridled lust for that 716 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 3: fight because it's it's like you know, it's it's a 717 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 3: super of all super fights, is it? Because it does 718 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 3: so much like ridiculous good Can one night really mean 719 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 3: like make a whole two year window? 720 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 2: Well? Uh, hard to say, but it's like, how much 721 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 2: of a year because it was a bit of a 722 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 2: down year when it was happening because you had lost 723 00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 2: Rousey and everything. How much did McGregor versus may make 724 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 2: the UFCS year that year? I mean, it did a 725 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 2: huge one number for them and really filled up a 726 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 2: lot of the gaps that the rest of that year 727 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 2: was not necessarily delivering. 728 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 3: So and that was as the co promoter, by the way, 729 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 3: that wasn't even like an in house production. 730 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 2: Right exactly, So in this case as an in house 731 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 2: promoter where you own own but you have own the 732 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 2: rights to the competitive abilities of both fighters. Yeah right, 733 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 2: but you get the idea. You know, you may not 734 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 2: do as much business overall aggregately as I mean with McGregor, 735 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 2: but you get essentially all of it. Whatever else you 736 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,720 Speaker 2: have to pay up to you know, the various smaller parties. 737 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 2: At this point, you've cut out the middleman with the 738 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 2: ms os on pay per view. Yeah, it would be 739 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 2: fucking huge for them. I mean again, dude, I'm not 740 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 2: if it happened, sweet, I'm all in. 741 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 3: Let's do it. I'm pressing. 742 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 2: Every one of every one of my timeline is like, dude, 743 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 2: danis in this fucking meeting. It's like, dude, chill out, Scoobs. 744 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 2: We'll figure out this mystery eventually. Don't worry about it. 745 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 3: I just set this all up because I wonder, even 746 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 3: though we don't assume that Habib is motivated by money, right, 747 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 3: He's made some good money, there was a time in 748 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 3: his career when he really wanted to get a championship 749 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,479 Speaker 3: and get to this point obviously where he was willing 750 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 3: to do everything. But is there a number that Dana 751 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 3: could mention that Hidi goes, fuck, I gotta do that, 752 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? And and is there a 753 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 3: percentage that Dana can give up in this space to 754 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 3: try to make that happen. What if he said, hey, Habib, 755 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 3: I'll give you fifty million dollars to fight Connor a 756 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 3: second time. I mean, look, that's like, what do you 757 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 3: think is the biggest take home Habib has had? What 758 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 3: do you think. 759 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 2: They ain't giving him fifty minus? They' gonna do. They're 760 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 2: gonna keep this is what I always love. It's like, 761 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 2: what could Dana offer to really get Habib back? 762 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 3: What do you think made in the first round? What 763 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 3: do you think could be made? 764 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 2: Here? Here is what I know. Okay, here's what I know. 765 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what the individual figure was. At the 766 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,919 Speaker 2: end of the year, it was overall, in aggregate among 767 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,240 Speaker 2: the rest of the paydays, about twenty percent of gross revenue. 768 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 2: That's what I know. They're not going to change that 769 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 2: unless they are forced by the the long arm of 770 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 2: the law. No, No, here's what I mean. They may 771 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 2: go above that twenty percent figure in the sense of 772 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 2: you know that event to give I mean a little 773 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 2: bit more, but then they'll find a way to use 774 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 2: cheaper talent on the back end. Like in the end, 775 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,240 Speaker 2: what's going to happen is there's going to be overall, 776 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 2: when the years added up, it's gonna be twenty percent. 777 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 2: Like this idea that they're gonna go crazy with it. 778 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 3: I don't, but I don't say that to assume that 779 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 3: it's going to change pay structures for anyone else. I 780 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 3: just mean, Luke, it is rare. It is rare that 781 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 3: on your roster at any point you have a fight 782 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 3: capable of pushing three million buys or even more if 783 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 3: it was well promoted, and if Connor, you know, blows 784 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 3: away poorier and comes in red hot, I mean, you 785 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 3: have it as a promoter. That's why Dana is so lustful. 786 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 3: It is so freaking rare that you are close to 787 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 3: something like that. He's sitting on a damn lottery ticket. 788 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 3: So in that case, I don't think it's crazy for 789 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 3: him to say. We already know Floyd has regularly made 790 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 3: between thirty and one hundred million for his biggest fights. 791 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 3: If you do this fight, I'm giving you, I don't 792 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 3: know what it is, forty million, thirty five million, you know, 793 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,800 Speaker 3: double whatever his biggest payday was. I don't think that's crazy. 794 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 3: This is what I think this meeting really is about. Hey, Kibeb, 795 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,399 Speaker 3: what is your number? Because no matter how great your 796 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 3: morals are, your convictions, your commitment to your family, Luke, 797 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 3: I'm gonna TEDDBIASI You're asked, because everybody does have a price, 798 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 3: for the million dollar man. At the end of the day, 799 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 3: you would eat asked with jelly or syrup if I 800 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 3: raised the number high enough, Luke, and you know it, 801 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 3: you dirt hole. 802 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 2: Probably, but not everyone is The question is, for whatever 803 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 2: Habib's number might be to actually get him to do it, 804 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 2: is the UFC going to be willing to pay that 805 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 2: kind of a number. I mean, here's the other part 806 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 2: about it. Back in twenty sixteen, when everyone was bragging 807 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 2: about twenty million UM pay per view paychecks for Connor, 808 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 2: and then you look at the actual numbers and it's 809 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 2: like over two he actually made fifteen, meaning he made 810 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 2: closer to about eight million for those pay per views. 811 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 2: There's also this gross exaggeration that happenppens about what these 812 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 2: guys actually make from the UFC's cut now among his 813 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 2: other businesses that also get a bump at the time. Yeah, 814 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 2: it's probably he probably makes a shit ton of money. 815 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 2: I'm not in any way suggesting Connor mcgregord is not 816 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 2: wealthy beyond imagination. But here's a by the point, it's like, oh, 817 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 2: is USC gonna offer fifty UFC is never gonna offer 818 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 2: fifty million in our fucking lifetime. That will almost never happen. 819 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 2: Maybe by the time I'm dead and gone, but I'll 820 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 2: be dead and gone probably in the year with the 821 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 2: amount of rage and fucking anguish that I live with 822 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 2: every single day. So no, in my life, they. 823 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 3: Have had one fight in their history, one fight in 824 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 3: their history that is done above what like, like, what's 825 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,320 Speaker 3: the second highest grossing pay per view in history? Is 826 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 3: it like Connor Nate two And I think it did 827 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 3: like one point sixty five million, which is a lot, 828 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,359 Speaker 3: by the way, anything like that. 829 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, if Habib. 830 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 3: Connor did two point four and has one of the 831 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 3: craziest backstorylines ever with the bus window in the attack 832 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 3: after two twenty nine, and now you've add that both 833 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 3: of their brands are even higher than they were before. 834 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 3: If Connor bled through, poor dude, and it's a retirement 835 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 3: fight for Habib and it's thirty and oh and we 836 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 3: know he really doesn't want dude. This is good. This 837 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 3: could do three to four million, Luke, you only get 838 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,240 Speaker 3: that once a decade or once a promotion. He's gonna 839 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 3: sell his soul. Dan's gonna cut his hand open and say, 840 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 3: what's the price you want my blood? Which fluid? Which 841 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:21,240 Speaker 3: which one of the fluids. 842 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 2: They've never done They've they've literally never done that. Name 843 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 2: a time that they've ever done that. They've never done that. 844 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 2: They're never gonna start doing that. They're never gonna bend 845 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 2: over backwards. Yeah, this is your this is your fan fantasize. Fantasizing. 846 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 2: That is letting your rationality and what the evidence shows 847 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 2: get the best of you. Here. They've literally never done 848 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:47,399 Speaker 2: that for anyone ever. 849 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 3: They're gonna starting a rational world, Luke. Okay, pat militant 850 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 3: just stormed the capitol. I don't live in a rational world. 851 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 2: He didn't storm the capitol, but he attended to protest. 852 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 2: So what are you gonna do? 853 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 3: All right? All right, all right, one. 854 00:39:58,480 --> 00:39:59,959 Speaker 2: More thing, I said, one more thing. We see about 855 00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 2: the it's not really about this, but about something ten. 856 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 3: Can't you have passion? Luke? No more monotone lifeless bs? 857 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:06,479 Speaker 3: Bring it? Luke? 858 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 2: Can I tell you how little I care about people's 859 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 2: social media updates from their quarantine hotel rooms in Abu Dhabi. 860 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 2: It's like, guys, we get it. You have to sit 861 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 2: in your room for forty eight hours. Probably sucks. I 862 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 2: don't give a fuck. Can you stop putting that shit 863 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 2: on the timeline. Please, all of you doing this like 864 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 2: that's some kind of novel. You're sitting in a fucking 865 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 2: hotel room like this is supposed to be some kind 866 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,280 Speaker 2: of magical What are you? Are you entering the fucking 867 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 2: CIA training headquarters and they're gonna tell you the who 868 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 2: killed Kennedy and shit like that. No, you're just sitting 869 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 2: in a fucking hotel room. Can you knock at all 870 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 2: this cages? Here's our sixteen of the of the fucking Journey. 871 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 2: I don't care. I want you to. I don't. 872 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,879 Speaker 3: I've jerked off three times hour seventeen. All right, there 873 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 3: we go, yep, yep. 874 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,800 Speaker 2: Don't don't get arrested for beating off from boredom in 875 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 2: Abu Dhabi. 876 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 3: Well, Luke Conor McGregor smoke spoke publicly at length a 877 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 3: couple of days back. His hotel is in Dubai, by 878 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 3: the way, not Abu Dhabi, and he had a little 879 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 3: media session. It looked like it was the Mac Life 880 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 3: only at first, but then we found out he also 881 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 3: did the Big John McCarthy pod. It looked like he 882 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 3: has a sit down with Ariel that'll run later this weekend. 883 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 3: I'm not sure if any other show cracked that upper 884 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,800 Speaker 3: crust core. Look, how did Morning Combat not get in 885 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 3: on that? 886 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 4: Oh? 887 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,320 Speaker 3: I forgot because. 888 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 2: You're number one. I'm going to be number one and 889 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 2: a half. 890 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 3: Because we're trying to take down the UFC. Yeah, I 891 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 3: forgot about that, all right, So, Luke, but Connor did 892 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 3: speak at length to MacLife. It was a very good 893 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 3: indver shot for that guy, Oscar you know that fellaw 894 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 3: Uh Yes, I like that guy. I think he I 895 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 3: think he does good work. Luke. Okay, thank you. We 896 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 3: got a little bit of sound and each in my 897 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 3: ear and got this. 898 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 4: Certainly I'm enjoying it. I'm certainly very happy. I'm very 899 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 4: you know, when I see what Ulson has has been 900 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,879 Speaker 4: dealing with his charity and his wife and himself and 901 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 4: you know, the Good Fight Foundation, I'm very decided to 902 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 4: be able to help with that and just talk of 903 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,760 Speaker 4: them building a gym off of the back of this fight, 904 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 4: and you know, I'm very excited about that. You know, 905 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 4: all the power to them, and this is what it 906 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 4: should be about. It is our duty in this world 907 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,760 Speaker 4: to give back. That is it, you know, every single 908 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,800 Speaker 4: one of us. And you know, as I get older, 909 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,799 Speaker 4: I am just I am just delving into that side 910 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 4: of things a lot more, and you know, I just 911 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 4: feel it is my duty and I've been I've been 912 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 4: blessed in this position that I am in, and I'm 913 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 4: going to continue to give back and I'm very, very 914 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 4: happy to get share the octagon with Dustin, who was 915 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 4: also of the same mindset. You know. So it's going 916 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 4: to be a good belt. Similar with Donald. There will 917 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,280 Speaker 4: be blood spilled, but it will not be bad blood 918 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 4: our grown men. 919 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 3: Now you know, well, Luke, that was one of the 920 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,359 Speaker 3: least juiciest moments of that interview, but that part did 921 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,839 Speaker 3: at least show you some of the stuff we've been 922 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 3: talking about. It that it seems a new mature Connor. 923 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 3: That was part of a conversation in which his persona 924 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 3: in disposition is obviously so different than it was the 925 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 3: first Poorier fight, the Habib fight. This is an older, mature, 926 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 3: thirty two year old Connor who seems ready to do 927 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,880 Speaker 3: big business and really compete again. He said in this 928 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 3: interview Luke, among other things, he'd like to have a 929 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 3: run at one fifty five like he had in the past. 930 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,279 Speaker 3: At one forty five. That could mean three appearances in 931 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 3: the octagon this year. Although there was a lot of 932 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 3: talk in that same interview about the potential of a 933 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,240 Speaker 3: Pacquiao fight, he also seemed to pop for the idea 934 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,759 Speaker 3: of Nate Diaz coming down to one fifty five and 935 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 3: said he'd love to do that trilogy fight for the 936 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 3: damn title. The thing I took away, the biggest takeaway 937 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 3: was it sounded like Connor kind of cryptically said this 938 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 3: poorier rematch won't be for the title only because Dana's 939 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 3: still pissed at him for what happened last year with 940 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 3: the DMS. That's the math I did by listening to that, Luke, 941 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 3: what are your biggest takeaways? Whether it was this interview 942 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 3: or any other one Connor had in the last forty 943 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 3: eight hours in his first real public speech at length. 944 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,879 Speaker 2: So he went on the big John McCarthy and Josh 945 00:43:58,960 --> 00:43:59,760 Speaker 2: Thompson podcast. 946 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, for them, I was surprised by that. That's a 947 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 3: great pull. 948 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a huge pull for them, not a whole lot. 949 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,319 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't really buy the idea that Danny 950 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 2: would punish Connor. It's like, to the extent you punish Connor, 951 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 2: you punish yourself. Your fortunes are in many ways intertwined, 952 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 2: so you know, I mean maybe a little bit they 953 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 2: might create some hurdles or headaches for him, but in 954 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 2: general rewarding him rewards themselves depending how you play it. 955 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,439 Speaker 2: So we'll see, no, not a whole lot. I mean, 956 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 2: the one thing I was looking forward to in this 957 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 2: media cycle was to see to what extent there would 958 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 2: be mind games in this one, because it's such a 959 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,320 Speaker 2: key part of what Connor had been prior to twenty 960 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:45,720 Speaker 2: twenty up through his last about you know, with Kabeeb, 961 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 2: and then of course really everything really that we understood 962 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 2: from him. He didn't really do it against Serni, you know, 963 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,400 Speaker 2: and he's not really doing it here now. He's not 964 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 2: doing it here for a lot of reasons. You heard 965 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 2: him talk positively about Dustin and his charitable efforts. I mean, 966 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 2: it's hard for a guy to like, look at what 967 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,839 Speaker 2: Dustin is doing and talk shit about that. You gotta 968 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 2: just be fully committed, to ask Holary in the way 969 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 2: that like Kolbe Coveton is right, like you just gotta 970 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 2: you know, you have to talk shit about someone's grandma 971 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 2: and about the things that are only good in this 972 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 2: world and on some level, Connor just can't bring himself 973 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 2: to do that, which I think I you know, a 974 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,360 Speaker 2: lot of us will probably respect them and understand, but 975 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 2: I was curious to see, you like, what role that 976 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 2: would play here? And I don't know if it's just 977 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 2: because of the pandemic or if it's a new leaf 978 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 2: he's turned over or what, but there really wasn't any 979 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 2: of it. Now. I guess we'll see what they do 980 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,839 Speaker 2: for face offs for the weigh ins or something like that. 981 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how that's all gonna go. 982 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:41,959 Speaker 2: But short of that, though, there's nothing he really said 983 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 2: that I found. Yeah, he would love to meet dat 984 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,360 Speaker 2: A one fifty five great, I would love to see it. 985 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. The thing that I want to see 986 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 2: is because trash talk. To this point, it appears like 987 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,759 Speaker 2: for the totality of it, they're just not going to 988 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 2: snipe at each other. What does that mean for Connor 989 00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 2: the fighter? If you have to win without getting and 990 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,799 Speaker 2: playing mind games and you just really have to win 991 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,960 Speaker 2: by virtue of how good you are, and he's obviously 992 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 2: very very very very good, But no getting an Aldo's head, 993 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 2: no pissing off Paria till he gets out of his game. 994 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 2: None of that. You just got to win on on 995 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,880 Speaker 2: your what happens when the cage door closes. If he 996 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,920 Speaker 2: goes in there and he beats Poarier again, doing that, 997 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:21,799 Speaker 2: having this sort of what would you call it here 998 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,400 Speaker 2: reserved attitude that he's had this whole time, pretty remarkable. 999 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,360 Speaker 2: I mean again, if he gets beat then all this 1000 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 2: is off and and Dustin is fully capable of beating him. 1001 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 2: But I'm just saying if he doesn't and Connor wins, 1002 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,759 Speaker 2: and Connor wins with all that extra shenanigans, dude, it's 1003 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 2: fucking impressive. 1004 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,560 Speaker 3: Oh huge. And you know me, Luke, I mean, I'm 1005 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 3: a trash panda. I get off on that on the 1006 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 3: bombastic WWE bullshit. But it's kind of refreshing that it's 1007 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 3: not here because you get to see him in the 1008 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 3: purest form going there and beat this guy. Go in 1009 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 3: there and knock this guy out. You know what happens 1010 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 3: if he doesn't knock out Dustin Poarier early and we're 1011 00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 3: going deep into five rounds. I mean, this could be 1012 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 3: It could be great theater. It's gonna show us a 1013 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 3: lot about where Connor is and who he is at 1014 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 3: this moment, I think that if you are tending to 1015 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 3: believe where I sort of believe that what we saw 1016 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 3: in the build up to the to the Cowboy fight, 1017 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,319 Speaker 3: and that forty seconds in the cage shows you that 1018 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,799 Speaker 3: he's a refreshed, new, different man that you know, you 1019 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 3: can buy into that he wasn't in the right space 1020 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,720 Speaker 3: for the two twenty nine fight, you know, and he's 1021 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 3: he's gone again, doubling down saying I cut corners and 1022 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,799 Speaker 3: training I didn't you know, blah blah blah. Then I 1023 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,360 Speaker 3: think these interviews this week show you that it's a mature, 1024 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 3: grown man. So does that translate into as dangerous a 1025 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 3: fighter again, We don't know, because even though I believe 1026 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 3: in the Connor I saw against Cowboy, it's forty freaking seconds, 1027 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,439 Speaker 3: it's potential fools, gold, cowboys washed. It's the freaking truth, 1028 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,800 Speaker 3: all right. I can't wait to see this fight, beyond 1029 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 3: the title implications, beyond the BS, beyond all that, just 1030 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 3: for the freaking damn fight. And look, it's interesting with 1031 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,839 Speaker 3: Connor having been gone so much lately. I mean, it's 1032 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 3: four plus years since we last saw prime Connor against 1033 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,880 Speaker 3: Adi Alvarez. Before the Whiskey, the Mayweather, the Habib of 1034 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,760 Speaker 3: the bus, all that crap. I mean he had built 1035 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,160 Speaker 3: at that point, Luke an insane resume, you know, not 1036 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:18,040 Speaker 3: necessarily for membership at the Goat table, but insane resume, right, 1037 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,759 Speaker 3: And we kind of during that four years of time 1038 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,880 Speaker 3: seeing him come in and out be more of a celebrity. 1039 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,120 Speaker 3: I think at times we've come resigned to the idea 1040 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 3: that moving forward, he's probably just that a celebrity fighter. 1041 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 3: He'd probably get the Nate trilogy, maybe he'd get Habib 1042 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,799 Speaker 3: a second time, but it would be more about who 1043 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 3: can he fight than what he can accomplish. I don't 1044 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,319 Speaker 3: think we talk enough about what his potential could be 1045 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 3: long term in terms of the Goat categories and all that. 1046 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,279 Speaker 3: If he can go on a run, because he resides 1047 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 3: in even with Abe potentially retiring, he resides in one 1048 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,239 Speaker 3: of the deepest and most dangerous divisions of all time. 1049 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 3: If he's gonna be as active at lightweight as he 1050 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 3: says he is, then he's gonna win a championship and 1051 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,840 Speaker 3: he's gonna have to face after Killer. There is so 1052 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,239 Speaker 3: much more potential here at thirty two to really add 1053 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 3: on to what he's already built. I mean, he's already 1054 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 3: because of the commercial side of it in his own category. 1055 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:12,840 Speaker 3: But I don't think we talk enough about what he 1056 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 3: can improve on the critical side. 1057 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:18,000 Speaker 2: Luke, there's no denying it, and like there's also you 1058 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,719 Speaker 2: know again, it's just so hard to know because if 1059 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 2: if he goes in there and lays an egg BC, 1060 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 2: you know as well as I do, someone's gonna selectively 1061 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,719 Speaker 2: pull this footage and be like, ah, you guys were 1062 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 2: saying he was going to do this. No, we're not. 1063 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:30,880 Speaker 2: We don't know what the fuck he's gonna do. I 1064 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 2: don't know, you know. It's we're asking these questions because 1065 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 2: it's kind of we were trying to ponder a world 1066 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 2: where we imagine he can build on his success. He 1067 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:40,759 Speaker 2: seems to be dialed in. We've talked about what he 1068 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,799 Speaker 2: appears to be in good shape, you know, Can he 1069 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,399 Speaker 2: round the corner past some of his deficiencies in the past. 1070 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 2: I don't know what we're gonna find out. Can he 1071 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 2: build on his strengths? I don't know we're gonna find out. 1072 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 2: We know Poirier has just been so consistent we can 1073 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,360 Speaker 2: much more readily assess the kind of improvements that he 1074 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,920 Speaker 2: has made and make and make a you know, a 1075 00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,560 Speaker 2: better assessment about it. With Connor, it's just always this mystery. 1076 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,600 Speaker 2: You just never really exactly know what the truth is, 1077 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 2: which is part of his intrigue. That's part of why 1078 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,279 Speaker 2: he sells big pay per views. You know, it's kind 1079 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 2: of amazing. But to you but to your point, like 1080 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 2: there is a real case you have to take seriously 1081 00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 2: about not really what happens when there's no mind games, 1082 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:20,440 Speaker 2: but can he be something more than the expectations even 1083 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,120 Speaker 2: his fans had about him, because I think there were 1084 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 2: to your point, there were a lot of fans who 1085 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,439 Speaker 2: were like, okay, well, once he went the Mayweather route 1086 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,239 Speaker 2: and then came back and got beat by Habib, all right, 1087 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 2: we had fun. He's still pretty good. You know, he 1088 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,640 Speaker 2: can be in these fights where you know, put him 1089 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 2: against Masviadol at a catch weight or something and he 1090 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,040 Speaker 2: can beat other names. You kind of put him in 1091 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 2: a in Anate Diaz world. You know, Nate Diaz with 1092 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,160 Speaker 2: the right fight and the right opponent on the right night, 1093 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:47,239 Speaker 2: sells huge, can beat them. He's obviously quite good. But 1094 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,279 Speaker 2: you know, Nate is not the guy who's gonna win 1095 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 2: that world title and hold it for four or five 1096 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 2: consecutive defenses. That's not who he is. That's not who 1097 00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,880 Speaker 2: he's trying to be either to to his credit, but 1098 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,479 Speaker 2: that's not who he is. What if Connor actually can 1099 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,719 Speaker 2: be more than just another Nate Diaz or you know, 1100 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:06,480 Speaker 2: in that same Nate Diaz orbit of just fancy fights 1101 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 2: for fancy reasons. What if he can actually go back 1102 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 2: to the track where he can beat the real deal 1103 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 2: Holy Fields, the guys who just don't do anything else 1104 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,800 Speaker 2: but this, who are at the top now. B C. 1105 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:17,879 Speaker 2: I have to be honest, I don't think he'll stick 1106 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,799 Speaker 2: around long enough on that track. I think if he 1107 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,040 Speaker 2: begins to get good again, right and he wins the title, 1108 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:24,800 Speaker 2: you know, to me, it just feels like a Pacquia 1109 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,240 Speaker 2: fight at that point would be inevitable. He will cash 1110 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 2: in on those bigger opportunities. 1111 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,680 Speaker 3: But Joy called d Devlin a four luki that there's 1112 00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,000 Speaker 3: some payback coming for that. 1113 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,200 Speaker 2: All right, there's some payback coming. But the point being 1114 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,160 Speaker 2: is there might be a window here where he says, 1115 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,840 Speaker 2: you guys tried to put me in this camp and 1116 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:43,839 Speaker 2: I'm actually a little bit above that. But he has 1117 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,319 Speaker 2: to go against Justin Pore on Saturday, improve it. 1118 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 3: And by the way, if he does lose to Poorier, 1119 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,040 Speaker 3: and if he finishes up as a celebrity fighter, still 1120 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 3: had a hell of a career. Probably had more of 1121 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,239 Speaker 3: an Oscar de la Hoya type career where the first 1122 00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,200 Speaker 3: apt of his career you were looking at it, you know, 1123 00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,359 Speaker 3: an all time grade. And then he really just became 1124 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 3: more of a celebrity fighter who lost more than he won, 1125 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 3: but still took on the biggest test available at every turn. 1126 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,240 Speaker 3: So uh, interesting stuff. I did like having Junior Mayweather 1127 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 3: run around during the uh during the MacLife interview and 1128 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,200 Speaker 3: pop his head up, Luke, I would I think it 1129 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,239 Speaker 3: would juice this show up a little more if you 1130 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:22,200 Speaker 3: considered an open door policy in which your your beautiful daughter, 1131 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:27,360 Speaker 3: maybe maybe Booger, maybe uh, uncle Felipe, maybe a boiler 1132 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,520 Speaker 3: could just randomly walk in. But hey, Luke, I made 1133 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 3: some carnitos. You want one? I mean that that was 1134 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,760 Speaker 3: not Racistluke. Luke. People in South. 1135 00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 2: America food, okay, what are what are carnitas? 1136 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,640 Speaker 3: They can eat? They're allowed to eat Mexican food, Luke. 1137 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,920 Speaker 3: I'm American. I eat Mexican. It's nothing racist about it 1138 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,600 Speaker 3: at all, But I would love that type of interaction. 1139 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 2: I think the people want carnitas. Okay, it's like a 1140 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:55,839 Speaker 2: pork taco. Colombians don't eat tacos. I don't, if I don't, 1141 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 2: If I don't know, if you're aware of that, they 1142 00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,279 Speaker 2: don't eat. They don't really eat tacos down there. 1143 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,319 Speaker 3: I eat Chinese and tie. Luke, Okay, I'm allowed to. 1144 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,719 Speaker 3: I had Japanese bento box for lunch the other day. 1145 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:06,719 Speaker 3: Take that jmma, all right. 1146 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,799 Speaker 2: Right, But the difference would be like if I'm like, oh, 1147 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,960 Speaker 2: you know BC, those guys from Connecticut and how much 1148 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:16,160 Speaker 2: they love poutine, You'd be like, no, that's not exactly right, 1149 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,399 Speaker 2: we don't. Or how about this and those vegan hot 1150 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,000 Speaker 2: dogs they love down there in Connecticut. You love those 1151 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,479 Speaker 2: vegan hot dogs down there Connecticut. B See, no you don't, 1152 00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,239 Speaker 2: So be careful with these kinds of things. Please, all right, all. 1153 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,280 Speaker 3: Right, thank you, Luke. Let's move on here, big news 1154 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 3: this week, seriously. 1155 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,000 Speaker 2: I love it. Last thing, my daughter's at the park. 1156 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,839 Speaker 2: If she comes back and starts trudging through my living 1157 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,200 Speaker 2: room like Godzilla in downtown Tokyo, I will open my door. 1158 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:42,960 Speaker 2: Let her say, Hi, it's. 1159 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,680 Speaker 3: Gonna get wild. She's gonna be asking for that, duck, Luke, right, 1160 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,839 Speaker 3: quack quack, Yeah, there it goes, Luke. Big headlines out 1161 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,360 Speaker 3: of the UFC. This was much needed, longtime coming, the 1162 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:56,920 Speaker 3: UFC lightening their stance on marijuana. Four years just for 1163 00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:01,360 Speaker 3: a weed, Damn, Luke. No longer will they criminalize it. 1164 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,920 Speaker 3: From the standpoint of suspending fighters, there are thresholds for 1165 00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,000 Speaker 3: the amount of THCHC you will be allowed. You also 1166 00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 3: will not be allowed to smoke, like the day before 1167 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,920 Speaker 3: the day of a fight, although I don't know how 1168 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:15,799 Speaker 3: they're gonna catch that. They said they're basically gonna do 1169 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,360 Speaker 3: eye tests. Luke. This is major. 1170 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,440 Speaker 2: No, No, it's like, I know, this is the truth. Like, 1171 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 2: if you get pulled over drunk, they can do a 1172 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,400 Speaker 2: BAC test, right, they're gonna have you blowing the breathalyzer. 1173 00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,280 Speaker 2: But what do they also do? They do field sobriety tests. 1174 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,160 Speaker 2: You know, I'm not sure they're gonna use the exact 1175 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 2: same ones, but you can do a field sobriety test 1176 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 2: for marijuana. 1177 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,520 Speaker 3: We're gonna need an officer parked outside of the DS 1178 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 3: locker room for sure, Luke. You love to see this 1179 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,879 Speaker 3: because obviously the attitudes have changed in a short time 1180 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,360 Speaker 3: in our country for you know, the medical properties of marijuana, 1181 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 3: what it can do. Also, I think for mental health, 1182 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,080 Speaker 3: I think we're gonna see, excuse me, long term, Luke, 1183 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,560 Speaker 3: a big change in what that can do as well. 1184 00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:56,120 Speaker 3: That it's not performance enhancing from a positive way. I mean, 1185 00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:57,839 Speaker 3: in some ways it could be a negative way, Luke. 1186 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,719 Speaker 3: And it's not just a party drug anymore. So this 1187 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:04,800 Speaker 3: seemed very good. I saw some of your not doubt 1188 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,880 Speaker 3: on Twitter, but you brought up a great point that 1189 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:12,040 Speaker 3: this is UFC amending their anti doping policy. State commissions 1190 00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:16,160 Speaker 3: with all with who also do testing, they're not signed 1191 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,279 Speaker 3: up for this, although I said, see Mark Ramundy may 1192 00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,799 Speaker 3: put out a tweet that the California State Commission is 1193 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 3: looking into it. Do you think that it's only soon 1194 00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:25,840 Speaker 3: that these states will follow and this will all be 1195 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:26,719 Speaker 3: cleaned up the right way? 1196 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,640 Speaker 2: Hard to know. California is run by Andy Foster, who listen, 1197 00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,400 Speaker 2: no commissioner is perfect. I don't think he should have 1198 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,759 Speaker 2: licensed Chuck Lidell to fight Tito in that third fight. 1199 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,959 Speaker 2: I mean, at this point it's pretty clear, so he's 1200 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,360 Speaker 2: made mistakes. But if anybody is out there trying to learn, 1201 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,359 Speaker 2: trying to get it right, trying to do the best 1202 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:48,719 Speaker 2: job that they can, trying to understand what the sports, 1203 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:50,920 Speaker 2: you know, boxing him to make a bat of sports, 1204 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,240 Speaker 2: what they need and what they don't. It's Andy Foster. 1205 00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,719 Speaker 2: I really believe he's the best commissioner we have in 1206 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,279 Speaker 2: the entire country. He's doing California some good. And so, 1207 00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,120 Speaker 2: you know, a nominal fine of one hundred bucks and 1208 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,359 Speaker 2: no suspension, okay whatever, I mean, at that point, who 1209 00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:05,760 Speaker 2: gives a shit, right, he's just fits finny. 1210 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,160 Speaker 3: What's what's the hundred bucks about, Luke? You know, it's 1211 00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,399 Speaker 3: legal to smoke in California, So what are we doing here? 1212 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,239 Speaker 2: Probably just money for the commission to pay people. I mean, 1213 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:14,920 Speaker 2: you know they. 1214 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,759 Speaker 3: Have their holiday party at the end of the year. 1215 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, probably a couple extra bottles of Captain 1216 00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,560 Speaker 2: Morgan or something something like that. But what I would 1217 00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:26,600 Speaker 2: say is a couple of things. Listen, it's obviously good news. Okay, 1218 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,480 Speaker 2: no one can look at this news and say this 1219 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,400 Speaker 2: is terrible. This is a step backward. It's not a 1220 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,080 Speaker 2: step backward, it's obviously step forward. And to the extent 1221 00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,479 Speaker 2: that they can convince the commissions, which is really still 1222 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,720 Speaker 2: the problem here. Even better, now, there's also a question 1223 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 2: because we know fighters have tested positive for marijuana under 1224 00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,200 Speaker 2: USADA tests but out of competition, but they've given that 1225 00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:52,360 Speaker 2: information to state commissions and then the commission then suspended 1226 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:56,400 Speaker 2: them because of their you know, totally archaic rules. Is 1227 00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 2: that still in play. There's a little bit of unclarity there. Plus, 1228 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,440 Speaker 2: Eric mcgracken have Combat Sports Law noted a couple of things. One, 1229 00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 2: when they mean substance of abuse, they don't just mean 1230 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,680 Speaker 2: cannabis but also various narcotics and stimulants. Okay. Also worth 1231 00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,920 Speaker 2: knowing that the lack of punishment is not automatic, but 1232 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:16,520 Speaker 2: discretionary and premised on compliance with a substance abuse treatment program. Importantly, 1233 00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 2: you saw the notes in their press release that where 1234 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:23,840 Speaker 2: fighters use cannabis for quote, alleviating pain or anxiety end quote, 1235 00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:28,040 Speaker 2: can consider that still performance enhancing. So there's a lot 1236 00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,840 Speaker 2: of gray here and some other areas where this may 1237 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,880 Speaker 2: not be the great thing we think it to be. 1238 00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,200 Speaker 2: But this was the one that really got me was 1239 00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,360 Speaker 2: in the end again, it's all good news. It's good news, 1240 00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,280 Speaker 2: like it's all good news, but please. In the press 1241 00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:47,160 Speaker 2: release yesterday, Jeff Novitsky notes that because marijuana is fat soluble, 1242 00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,880 Speaker 2: it ends up staying in the system with much larger 1243 00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:54,600 Speaker 2: detection windows than a lot of other drugs, long past 1244 00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,680 Speaker 2: the point someone had ingested it, like, for example, cocaine. 1245 00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,080 Speaker 2: I think we both agree BC probably worse for you 1246 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,040 Speaker 2: you on balance than marijuana, but in terms of what 1247 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:04,520 Speaker 2: you can detect in the system, it goes in and 1248 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,320 Speaker 2: out relatively quickly. Marijuana might be safer for you, but 1249 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,560 Speaker 2: it just sticks around in the body. Excuse me a 1250 00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:15,880 Speaker 2: little bit longer. Why is that relevant? Because my first 1251 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,680 Speaker 2: major article that I wrote for mmafighting dot com when 1252 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,360 Speaker 2: they were purchased from aol by Vox Media back in 1253 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:26,440 Speaker 2: twenty eleven, argue that point exactly. Like to the letter, 1254 00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,680 Speaker 2: I argued that they can only tell that you used. 1255 00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 2: They cannot tell when you used and when you have 1256 00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:36,480 Speaker 2: these in versus out of competition windows. This is all meaningless. No, 1257 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,960 Speaker 2: it's not scientific. And what they tried to do was, well, 1258 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,800 Speaker 2: let's have it if you are over fifty nanogram's personal leader, 1259 00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,720 Speaker 2: let's do that. And that didn't work. Let's write a 1260 00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,160 Speaker 2: hundred let's TRYE one hundred and fifty and every time, 1261 00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,160 Speaker 2: all on the way, people are clapping like, wow, aren't 1262 00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,480 Speaker 2: these commissions really doing great work by upping the threshold 1263 00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,920 Speaker 2: by which they will punish you? And I'm like, no, 1264 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,600 Speaker 2: none of this shit is science. It's not science. They 1265 00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,800 Speaker 2: don't know, they cannot possibly know what the truth is. 1266 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,080 Speaker 2: This is a field sobriety method and whatever these other 1267 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:07,560 Speaker 2: caveats are, this is a much more rational scientific perspective. 1268 00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,960 Speaker 2: My only question is, hey, fellas, you guys tell me 1269 00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:15,440 Speaker 2: you are the ones who are the sober evaluators of evidence, 1270 00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,920 Speaker 2: the adults in the room. Well, how come I was 1271 00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,959 Speaker 2: writing about this a fucking decade ago and I picked 1272 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,160 Speaker 2: it up from people who are writing about a decade 1273 00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,200 Speaker 2: before that. I mean, the pace of progress on this 1274 00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,800 Speaker 2: is glacial. What I wanna know is what are you 1275 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,600 Speaker 2: gonna do? Because you can't go back to twenty eleven. 1276 00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:33,280 Speaker 2: You thought it wasn't a part of the UFC back THENBC, 1277 00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,720 Speaker 2: But when did they start here? Twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, 1278 00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:39,600 Speaker 2: something like that? Are you gonna go back and retroactively 1279 00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,840 Speaker 2: do something about all the people who got hemmed up 1280 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,480 Speaker 2: for it in that space? Because that's what you should do. 1281 00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,520 Speaker 2: You should go back through and fight for every single 1282 00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:50,439 Speaker 2: person who had a marijuana violation in that space, because 1283 00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,640 Speaker 2: you're now telling us your science that you told us 1284 00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:58,680 Speaker 2: was ironclad is bullshit. It's the same thing with Tom Lawler. 1285 00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,200 Speaker 2: We know he took us. Two years later, we now 1286 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:05,600 Speaker 2: know he only took it accidentally, and it was something 1287 01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,120 Speaker 2: that we would have totally exonerated him for. Oh did 1288 01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:12,680 Speaker 2: we ruin his fucking career in the meantime? Yes, we did. 1289 01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:16,080 Speaker 2: They're going to keep doing this. I don't know how 1290 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:19,280 Speaker 2: many fucking times I have to tell folks they're not 1291 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,560 Speaker 2: who you think they are. They're not. They are zealous 1292 01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,360 Speaker 2: who are committed to a worldview that is not backed 1293 01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,960 Speaker 2: up by science even a fucking little bit, even a 1294 01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:29,840 Speaker 2: little bit. And wait until I tell you what the 1295 01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:33,000 Speaker 2: reality is about behind performance dancing drugs in the sport. Oh, 1296 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,480 Speaker 2: it's gonna blow your fucking mind. When I do so 1297 01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,520 Speaker 2: great that you've got a right ship. We've known for 1298 01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:39,440 Speaker 2: fifteen years. 1299 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,840 Speaker 3: I think they'd be great for your personal channel, Luke. 1300 01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,600 Speaker 3: Oh look, I do agree with you, and congratulations of 1301 01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:48,400 Speaker 3: being ahead of the game. It has seemed extra archaic 1302 01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,400 Speaker 3: in recent years to see people suspended and find for this. Look, 1303 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,160 Speaker 3: do you know how you've turned me around on peds? 1304 01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:55,960 Speaker 3: And by the way, people don't like this, Okay, they 1305 01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,520 Speaker 3: don't like this side of us that we just assume 1306 01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,360 Speaker 3: everyone was using I think certainly when we look back 1307 01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,480 Speaker 3: at the art at the early barbaric archaic days of 1308 01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,760 Speaker 3: even UFC or Pride or whatever, we assume everyone was 1309 01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,600 Speaker 3: using roids and there wasn't good detection or all that. 1310 01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,439 Speaker 3: Should we also assume that dudes back in those days 1311 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,320 Speaker 3: were entering the cage like on coke and stuff. 1312 01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:21,960 Speaker 2: Ooh, now that's interesting. You mean like when they walked 1313 01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,080 Speaker 2: in the cage, were they high? 1314 01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, like they did a line in the damn locker 1315 01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,919 Speaker 3: room to just you know, numb the nerves and. 1316 01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:34,160 Speaker 2: Some some probably were, Yeah, I mean how many? Probably 1317 01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:37,520 Speaker 2: not very many. And again there were commissions back then too, 1318 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:39,840 Speaker 2: you know, did the commissions not see it? If they 1319 01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,240 Speaker 2: were discreet about it. I'm not blaming every regulatory of. 1320 01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,800 Speaker 3: Pissed tests, Luke. They did piss tests back then, you 1321 01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:45,439 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. 1322 01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,640 Speaker 2: Or they did or they did and they would be like, okay, 1323 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:50,919 Speaker 2: there's twelve of you on a card, We'll piss test 1324 01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,200 Speaker 2: you four and then the other eight just go free. 1325 01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,560 Speaker 3: You know, I mean true or false? Luke? Have you 1326 01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:59,120 Speaker 3: ever had a job interview and went to the to 1327 01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,760 Speaker 3: like the record store slash blong store and bought that 1328 01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,720 Speaker 3: shake for twenty two dollars and then you drink it 1329 01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:07,800 Speaker 3: the morning of the test, and then you filled up 1330 01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:09,680 Speaker 3: with water a second time, and you drink it and 1331 01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:11,640 Speaker 3: then you pissed like four times and then you go 1332 01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:12,959 Speaker 3: to the test. Have you done that, Luke? 1333 01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:17,760 Speaker 2: No, dude, I was. I joined the military at age seventeen, 1334 01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:21,680 Speaker 2: and so I didn't party much in high school. Man. 1335 01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,080 Speaker 2: I think I drank maybe maybe a handful of times 1336 01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,800 Speaker 2: in high school. I never smoked marijuana, oh maybe one 1337 01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:32,200 Speaker 2: time one time, and I was I you know, I 1338 01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,160 Speaker 2: was a fucking nerd. I was a huge nerd. So 1339 01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,479 Speaker 2: I didn't really engage in that kind of behavior until college, 1340 01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:38,280 Speaker 2: in which case I let it rip. But the point 1341 01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:42,520 Speaker 2: being is I didn't really really really smoke or use 1342 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:46,960 Speaker 2: marijuana until I was twenty four because I was so 1343 01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,160 Speaker 2: bought in on the Marine Corps. I was so I'm 1344 01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,400 Speaker 2: not going to touch this shit. I'm not gonna be 1345 01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,120 Speaker 2: just stay away. From it. So when I had job interviews, dude, 1346 01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,160 Speaker 2: I wasn't sweating. I did never. I never had to 1347 01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:57,680 Speaker 2: worry about it. 1348 01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:01,280 Speaker 3: All right, Well, it's an experience, Luke, It's not like. 1349 01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,920 Speaker 2: It's not did you did you ever go to GMC 1350 01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,919 Speaker 2: and buy golden Seal? That was not always time. 1351 01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,120 Speaker 3: I always went the bootleg, uh, you know, a hippie route. 1352 01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,080 Speaker 3: It works though, Yeah, I mean I was washing dishes. 1353 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,240 Speaker 3: Wasn't like I've got a government job off of that. Luke. 1354 01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,920 Speaker 3: Here's the deal, Luke, it's not actually like novelty at 1355 01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,440 Speaker 3: this point to like do an interview with somebody and 1356 01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,560 Speaker 3: everyone's high, Like you know, we're seeing like hot boxing 1357 01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,160 Speaker 3: podcasts and stuff like that. But if you and I 1358 01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,800 Speaker 3: ever did mk RBAL like a spinoff interview show, what 1359 01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:32,040 Speaker 3: fighters would you want to? 1360 01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:32,240 Speaker 2: Uh? 1361 01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:34,080 Speaker 3: Would you want to have on? Now that we can 1362 01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,440 Speaker 3: all legally do this depending on what state. 1363 01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,360 Speaker 2: We're in, Like we can smoke weed, yeah, and. 1364 01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:43,160 Speaker 3: Interview somebody and and and have fun and ask fun 1365 01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:44,080 Speaker 3: questions and laugh. 1366 01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,720 Speaker 2: Uh. Diaz brothers for sure, for sure. I Mean that's 1367 01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:49,720 Speaker 2: a that's a given right. 1368 01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,000 Speaker 3: I feel like that they're gonna fight me the whole 1369 01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:53,760 Speaker 3: time though, they're they're a little too serious. 1370 01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:55,520 Speaker 2: No, no, No, I told you I hung out with 1371 01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:59,720 Speaker 2: Nate Diaz one time in twenty twelve, and he's a 1372 01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,560 Speaker 2: very very very nice person, a very nice person. So no, 1373 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,640 Speaker 2: and I told you that one time I accidentally texted 1374 01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:06,400 Speaker 2: him and he was super chill about it. 1375 01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,760 Speaker 3: So so no, he sent him a stick pick Luke, 1376 01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:10,840 Speaker 3: What what happened there? 1377 01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:12,320 Speaker 2: I never told you the story. 1378 01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:13,720 Speaker 3: No, please share it. 1379 01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,360 Speaker 2: I one time was on the train, one of my 1380 01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,480 Speaker 2: many train rides back and forth, and I ran into 1381 01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,080 Speaker 2: an old co worker of mine and I was like, 1382 01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:23,040 Speaker 2: oh fuck. And he was like, hey, come sit next 1383 01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,040 Speaker 2: to me, let's hang out. And I'm like, oh jesus. 1384 01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:27,720 Speaker 2: So he goes to the bathroom and he was drinking 1385 01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:29,280 Speaker 2: and belching, and he was just the worst. 1386 01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:31,960 Speaker 3: Did you Irish exit him? You should have just left 1387 01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:33,040 Speaker 3: the car. Look when he got up. 1388 01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,080 Speaker 2: Well, the thing, the problem, the problem was we both 1389 01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,440 Speaker 2: got off. I mean he worked in DC, so we 1390 01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,640 Speaker 2: both got on in New York and then off in DC. 1391 01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:42,880 Speaker 2: There was nothing I could really do, so uh, he 1392 01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,560 Speaker 2: goes to the bathroom and I texted another dude whose 1393 01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:47,480 Speaker 2: name started with the letter N that was a buddy 1394 01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,480 Speaker 2: of mine, and it accidentally I wasn't even I just 1395 01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:52,320 Speaker 2: didn't even pay attention. And I was like, Yo, fuck 1396 01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,600 Speaker 2: this guy. He's a huge bit. You won't believe he's 1397 01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:56,560 Speaker 2: sitting next to me. Man, fuck this loser, blah blah. 1398 01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:57,760 Speaker 2: I think that guy used to work with him too, 1399 01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,120 Speaker 2: And uh, sorry, I gotta sneeze here. 1400 01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,920 Speaker 3: I sorry, God bless you. 1401 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:06,920 Speaker 2: He got sent to it got sent to Nate Diz 1402 01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,680 Speaker 2: and so so I didn't really language. 1403 01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:12,280 Speaker 3: He understands that language. 1404 01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:14,480 Speaker 2: My phone was off, so when your phone is off, 1405 01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:16,560 Speaker 2: it's got to my daughter's on my phone. But like 1406 01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:18,600 Speaker 2: when your phone is off, it's a black screen, right, 1407 01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,040 Speaker 2: And then when you get an alert, it pops up 1408 01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:25,080 Speaker 2: and it said text from Nate Diaz, and I go, 1409 01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,240 Speaker 2: why the fuck is Nate Diaz texted me? And then 1410 01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,840 Speaker 2: I opened it up and I saw I had texted Nate. 1411 01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,920 Speaker 2: I was talking shit about this guy, and Nate was like, YO, 1412 01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,160 Speaker 2: tell me about him. Why is he a bitch? Blah 1413 01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:38,600 Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah. And he was like getting me 1414 01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,400 Speaker 2: to like explain to him why I fucking hated one 1415 01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,040 Speaker 2: of my old co workers. And then at the end 1416 01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:45,680 Speaker 2: he was like and then at the end, he was like, 1417 01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:50,000 Speaker 2: you have my permission to slap this fraud, yes, dude. 1418 01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,480 Speaker 2: I was like, oh shit, my bad, dude, my bad. 1419 01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:56,400 Speaker 2: He was totally chill about this is what I mean, Dude, 1420 01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,000 Speaker 2: like Nate has you know, he mean mugs with a 1421 01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,320 Speaker 2: camera and he's a tough dude, Like, obviously he's tough shit, 1422 01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:03,960 Speaker 2: but he's I don't I think he's probably pretty fucking 1423 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,080 Speaker 2: chill and hilarious if you can get him into that environment. 1424 01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:09,240 Speaker 2: But you're asking about other people who do weed? Who 1425 01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:12,600 Speaker 2: else in the I see? I would want to go 1426 01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,240 Speaker 2: too crazy after that, Like I don't like, I love Diego, 1427 01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:16,480 Speaker 2: but I don't know why would FONT want to do 1428 01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:18,520 Speaker 2: drugs with Diego? 1429 01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:21,760 Speaker 3: Luke, he would slip you a roofy just so he 1430 01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,680 Speaker 3: could take you into his world. Definitely, Luke, Definitely. 1431 01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:25,840 Speaker 2: And then don't know? 1432 01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:27,960 Speaker 3: And then why is Josh Fabi on my back? What 1433 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:29,040 Speaker 3: is happening right now? 1434 01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:29,360 Speaker 2: Why? 1435 01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:32,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? Why am I wearing his coach as a backpack? Okay, 1436 01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:35,160 Speaker 3: uh yeah, probably I wanna would probably be our first choice, 1437 01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:36,400 Speaker 3: Luke when we roll out the show. 1438 01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,840 Speaker 2: When I quit that, I quit the job, stop it stop. 1439 01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,080 Speaker 3: Her second book is out, I think it's in Polish, though, 1440 01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:43,880 Speaker 3: I got to see if they'll translate that for me. 1441 01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:47,160 Speaker 3: All right, Luke, that's weed, That's what it is. Let's 1442 01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,560 Speaker 3: roll on here our final topic of the main portion. 1443 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,320 Speaker 3: Cody Garbrant, your former VANDAM White champion, who was supposed 1444 01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:57,000 Speaker 3: to challenge for Devison Figuredo's Flyway Bella, is now saying 1445 01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,440 Speaker 3: he wants jose Al though he would. Speaking to Mark 1446 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:02,720 Speaker 3: Ray Monday of ESPN, and Cody said he wants to 1447 01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:05,280 Speaker 3: fight the big names that come to fight. He would 1448 01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:09,240 Speaker 3: like Jose Aldo in April. He also did say that 1449 01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:12,800 Speaker 3: after Aldough he still wants Figaredo, he still wants Dilla 1450 01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:16,160 Speaker 3: Shaw if he's clean. Luke, no epo, and that would 1451 01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:18,360 Speaker 3: be his next three fights. Are you down with this 1452 01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:20,880 Speaker 3: change in action to go after the legend? 1453 01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:26,240 Speaker 2: Although right now, here's what I want from Cody. None 1454 01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:29,440 Speaker 2: of those names he mentioned are bad. They're all awesome. 1455 01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:32,840 Speaker 2: Cody versus Aldo, Yes, Cody versus TJ. If they can 1456 01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:34,200 Speaker 2: find a way to make it happen again under the 1457 01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:38,160 Speaker 2: right circumstances. I'm all in Cody versus Figaredo. I mean 1458 01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:40,880 Speaker 2: that was the one. I'm less about that one because 1459 01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,680 Speaker 2: it's one twenty five, but hey, is that the worst 1460 01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:45,560 Speaker 2: fight in the world. Definitely not the worst fight in 1461 01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:47,480 Speaker 2: the world. But I guess the point I'm trying to 1462 01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:49,800 Speaker 2: make is I would just like him to have some direction. 1463 01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:52,360 Speaker 2: You know, what is it you want? Do you want 1464 01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:53,640 Speaker 2: to be the bansamweight champ? Do you want to be 1465 01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:55,479 Speaker 2: the flyweight champ? Do you want to be the champ champ? Okay, 1466 01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:57,680 Speaker 2: in which case, you know, there's something to figure out there. 1467 01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:00,840 Speaker 2: But he had the one huge win at one hundred 1468 01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,520 Speaker 2: and thirty five, which was amazing. He looked a lot better. 1469 01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,280 Speaker 2: There's still things though for me to build on there. 1470 01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,680 Speaker 2: You know, there's still a little bit of a reprogramming 1471 01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:12,160 Speaker 2: that has to happen to get that style to be 1472 01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:15,520 Speaker 2: fully maximized to its potential. Was it was great in 1473 01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:18,840 Speaker 2: that fight, but that was just one fight. So to me, 1474 01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:21,920 Speaker 2: it's like, dude, figure out your lane and then just 1475 01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,479 Speaker 2: stick to it for a time. And the big names 1476 01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:27,040 Speaker 2: are great, they certainly had a lot more visibility, But 1477 01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:28,960 Speaker 2: if I was in his corner, I'd be like, we 1478 01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:32,640 Speaker 2: still need to iron out some details, and you know, 1479 01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:34,240 Speaker 2: I don't know which of these fights is the best 1480 01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:36,200 Speaker 2: for you. To get. They're probably not the flyweight one. 1481 01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,160 Speaker 2: The Aldo one is tough too, you know, I mean. 1482 01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,519 Speaker 3: Win or lose all those coming to bang so Cody 1483 01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:42,559 Speaker 3: could get knocked out in this. 1484 01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:45,000 Speaker 2: I mean, this is no joke, there no doubt about it. 1485 01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:46,400 Speaker 2: And he was, you know, he was very good about 1486 01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:51,400 Speaker 2: avoiding the best of of of a Sunsal. But it 1487 01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,439 Speaker 2: sometime It's got a very different style than Aldo, you know. 1488 01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:57,280 Speaker 2: I yeah, I don't know. 1489 01:08:57,920 --> 01:08:59,519 Speaker 3: I mean, it'd be a manly fight. I'd be done 1490 01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:02,160 Speaker 3: for any of these obviously. I just didn't like him 1491 01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,760 Speaker 3: rush into the let's cut down to one twenty five 1492 01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:06,400 Speaker 3: for the first time ever for the time. I mean, 1493 01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:08,920 Speaker 3: didn't didn't you learn from TJ in that stay up 1494 01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:09,639 Speaker 3: vandam way, dude? 1495 01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:11,639 Speaker 2: You would have thought you would have you would have thought. 1496 01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:15,719 Speaker 3: But no, Luke, I'm getting word that Dana has given 1497 01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:19,040 Speaker 3: an interview today in which people were trying to guess 1498 01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,560 Speaker 3: who he has in mind for Nate Diaz and this 1499 01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,120 Speaker 3: come back at one fifty five, and that when someone 1500 01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:28,400 Speaker 3: mentioned Justin Gaichee, Dana kind of laughed and smiled. Uh, Luke, 1501 01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:30,759 Speaker 3: it's early here. We don't know if this is true, 1502 01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:34,480 Speaker 3: but how moved would you be for Justin Geeche n Diaz. 1503 01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:39,360 Speaker 2: Sick fight, super sick fight. Tough fight for Nate, you know, 1504 01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:44,760 Speaker 2: tough especially with the leg kicks. That's a really bad 1505 01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,160 Speaker 2: matchup for Nate because Nate just sort of eats them 1506 01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:48,160 Speaker 2: and then. 1507 01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:50,280 Speaker 3: Kind of feel like it ends the mas beat all way, 1508 01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:52,519 Speaker 3: no matter what, right you kind of like you'll break 1509 01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,800 Speaker 3: his leg or cut him bad and and and then 1510 01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:56,479 Speaker 3: Nate will save face and say he won. 1511 01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,160 Speaker 2: But you know, well, with the old Gai Chee, that 1512 01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,719 Speaker 2: would be a little bit more competitive because Nate's volume 1513 01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:05,120 Speaker 2: eventually would play a uh make a difference with the 1514 01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:06,800 Speaker 2: one who's a little bit more in and out. That's 1515 01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:11,160 Speaker 2: gonna be harder to do. So it's a tough fight 1516 01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,280 Speaker 2: for Nate. It's a tough fight. You know he can 1517 01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:16,719 Speaker 2: win it, but you gotta like Gaigie's chances with that one. 1518 01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:19,840 Speaker 3: I do like though that if the UFC saying, okay, 1519 01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:22,439 Speaker 3: if Connor wins the belt, he wants you Nate, assuming 1520 01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:25,040 Speaker 3: Habib's not around, you would think they would sub Nate 1521 01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,000 Speaker 3: in pretty quickly to get that trilogy and make it 1522 01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,120 Speaker 3: for the title. But you'd want Nate to have to 1523 01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:32,120 Speaker 3: beat somebody coming in. God, if he beat Gai Chee, Luke, 1524 01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:35,799 Speaker 3: I let him pass, go, let him cut everybody in line, right. 1525 01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:39,240 Speaker 2: Yeah shit, I mean crazy? Yeah. No, you beat Gaichie. 1526 01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,439 Speaker 2: And remember he didn't take a beating against Gvibe. He 1527 01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:46,920 Speaker 2: just got overwhelmed on the ground, so he was looking fresh. 1528 01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:50,800 Speaker 3: You can beat that guy, you get a Yes, here's 1529 01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:52,880 Speaker 3: a theory where I'm going to be debating around fire 1530 01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:54,760 Speaker 3: pits for years and people are gonna say no until 1531 01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,480 Speaker 3: I make him watch the tape, Luke. I think Gaichie 1532 01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:01,800 Speaker 3: was two more leg maybe even one hard leg strakeaway 1533 01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:05,000 Speaker 3: from putting Habiban peril. And I know people are hearing 1534 01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:08,160 Speaker 3: this going with, oh, you casual, you hate Japanese people, 1535 01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:10,880 Speaker 3: you don't know mm you're about, and bro, watch the 1536 01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:15,639 Speaker 3: damn tape. Okay, Luke, I'm not wrong. 1537 01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:17,840 Speaker 2: I would say. I would say, when you start putting 1538 01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,880 Speaker 2: a number on it, it begins to get a little 1539 01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:23,559 Speaker 2: bit more of a concrete claim that you couldn't defend. 1540 01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:26,519 Speaker 2: But I think that you're right to say those leg 1541 01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:28,880 Speaker 2: kicks were probably having more of an effect that the 1542 01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:33,000 Speaker 2: alt that the is overshadowed by what happened on the ground. 1543 01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:36,800 Speaker 2: Where you know, it could be just completely overwhelmed him. Yeah, 1544 01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:38,360 Speaker 2: I think there's something to that. I mean, those lake 1545 01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:40,840 Speaker 2: Kicks were having a real effect. They were probably hurting 1546 01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:44,679 Speaker 2: like shit, and he wanted to get that business done 1547 01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:48,320 Speaker 2: and over with, and you just forget about all that 1548 01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:52,680 Speaker 2: after the fact. Was it one? Was it two? Was 1549 01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:55,320 Speaker 2: it seven? You know, I don't know, but I do 1550 01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,800 Speaker 2: think you're right something. People forget a little bit about 1551 01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,600 Speaker 2: the kind of damage. I would say, getsch you was 1552 01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:02,360 Speaker 2: doing one or two. I don't know if I BUYE 1553 01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:02,720 Speaker 2: buy that. 1554 01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:05,720 Speaker 3: I'm not dead wrong on that theory. People watch the 1555 01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:08,080 Speaker 3: damn tape. Okay, there were three gunmen, one in the 1556 01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:10,599 Speaker 3: grassy Knoll, thank you asked Nicholas Cage and the rock 1557 01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,519 Speaker 3: who actually killed JFK. Luke. It's time for our favorite, 1558 01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:17,000 Speaker 3: my favorite segment, the segment that puts you on tilt. Brother. 1559 01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,599 Speaker 3: It's when we have accountability for our actions. We look 1560 01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:23,000 Speaker 3: back at what went right and wrong over the past week, 1561 01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:26,400 Speaker 3: and we take the ls when needed. This one's called 1562 01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:33,920 Speaker 3: dead wrong wrong. You thought you were right, Luke. You 1563 01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:38,719 Speaker 3: were dead freaking wrong, Luke. This said a dead wrong record. 1564 01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:40,599 Speaker 2: Hold on, I want to say it one more time 1565 01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,679 Speaker 2: these Jimokes tried to say I was wrong about MF. 1566 01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:47,520 Speaker 2: Doom's fucking death day, and I actually got it exactly 1567 01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:50,240 Speaker 2: right in the original clips. So whoever sent that in? 1568 01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:54,160 Speaker 3: Uh? Are you saying that our producers are not are 1569 01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:55,679 Speaker 3: not gatekeeping this enough? 1570 01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:58,160 Speaker 2: Are you calling out Mike? Are you saying exactly right? 1571 01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:00,679 Speaker 2: Here's what Mikey's doing. Mikey's taking He's been like, look 1572 01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:03,280 Speaker 2: at these fuck faces and then throwing it up for 1573 01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:05,799 Speaker 2: us to read without double checking to see if it's correct. 1574 01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:07,800 Speaker 2: So fuck you, Mikey. How about that? 1575 01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:11,960 Speaker 3: Wow? Wow, take that you have pasty white bitch. No, 1576 01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:13,760 Speaker 3: I love Mikey' stop that all right? 1577 01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:15,920 Speaker 2: Luke, Gat's trying to kill us on air? 1578 01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:18,680 Speaker 3: That is true? Uh, Luke, this set a record for 1579 01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:21,080 Speaker 3: most people dming me to try to prove that you 1580 01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:26,559 Speaker 3: were wrong. Luke dead wrong brother. Arsenal plays at the 1581 01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:32,120 Speaker 3: Emirates Stadium in oh Yes, Manchester City plays at Etty 1582 01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:38,400 Speaker 3: Hot Stadium. Luke said it was Arsenal on Friday, January eighth, show. Luke, 1583 01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:41,880 Speaker 3: you this shows where our fan base is because all 1584 01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:45,719 Speaker 3: walks of life, all nationalities, people coming at you high, 1585 01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:47,720 Speaker 3: fast and hard for this one. I could care. 1586 01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:51,800 Speaker 2: Fair enough, that's a very fair correction. I was dead wrong, 1587 01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:53,360 Speaker 2: very good, no problem. 1588 01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:55,439 Speaker 3: All right, all right, well, Luke, to continue the trend 1589 01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:58,160 Speaker 3: of you sucking ass and having to deal with afterwards. Luke, 1590 01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:02,479 Speaker 3: when you were talking about Cristiano Ronaldo, who oh, by 1591 01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:06,320 Speaker 3: the way, is Portuguese not Brazilian yet, dill hole you 1592 01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:06,880 Speaker 3: pronounce it? 1593 01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:09,360 Speaker 2: I know that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, 1594 01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:12,479 Speaker 2: no no, there is no way this is correct. I 1595 01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:17,200 Speaker 2: have three Ronaldo jerseys in my closet. I guarantee whoever 1596 01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:20,479 Speaker 2: wrote this did not fucking listen. There is no fucking 1597 01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:23,320 Speaker 2: way that I said he was fucking Brazilian. No, well, 1598 01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:24,800 Speaker 2: there is a Ronaldo that was Brazilian. 1599 01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:28,600 Speaker 3: Here's one of them. Here's the defense from one of 1600 01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:32,880 Speaker 3: our viewers. Luke says, Ronaldo or Naldo, I guess as 1601 01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:35,439 Speaker 3: they would say in Brazil, as if trying to imply 1602 01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:37,040 Speaker 3: Ronaldo is Brazilian. 1603 01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:41,360 Speaker 2: The proina fucking dick. I never said Cristiano fucking Ronaldo 1604 01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:45,600 Speaker 2: was fucking Brazilian. No fucking way, no fucking fuck you 1605 01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:49,720 Speaker 2: fuck you to whoever wrote that with this bullshit that 1606 01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:53,080 Speaker 2: I don't know where the fucking Christiano Ronaldo is from. 1607 01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:57,759 Speaker 3: Fuck. The Brazilian Ronaldo, however, has seventeen point seven million 1608 01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:01,639 Speaker 3: Instagram followers. The one Luke reference is from Portugal, and. 1609 01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:04,280 Speaker 2: Everybody knows that no no, no, no, no. 1610 01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:04,400 Speaker 4: No. 1611 01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:14,040 Speaker 3: Present pronounced Ronaldo. You pronunciation correcting William and Mary askhole ship. 1612 01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:16,920 Speaker 2: There is no way I said that as a side comment, 1613 01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:19,880 Speaker 2: as a joke as I'm working through my notes, that 1614 01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:22,360 Speaker 2: I thought that he was from fucking Rio de Janeiro. 1615 01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:26,559 Speaker 2: Fuck you, no chance, no chance chance, Luke. 1616 01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:30,200 Speaker 3: People aren't saying that you thought Christian Christiando Ronaldo was 1617 01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:32,920 Speaker 3: from Brazil. People are saying that you pronounced his name wrong. 1618 01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,360 Speaker 3: It's not Naldo, the guy's from Portugal. Bro. 1619 01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:37,479 Speaker 2: It's right, that's not well, but that's not what this says. 1620 01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:40,880 Speaker 2: Ronaldo is Portuguese. Yes, I know he's the captain of 1621 01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:42,040 Speaker 2: the team. 1622 01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:44,439 Speaker 3: Right, but that's their way of proving that you pronounced 1623 01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:46,920 Speaker 3: it wrong. You pronounced it as if he was from Brazil. 1624 01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:50,679 Speaker 2: I've never I've literally, in the entirety of my life BC, 1625 01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:56,040 Speaker 2: I have never called Christiano Ronaldo Cristiano Ronaldo. And in fact, 1626 01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:58,839 Speaker 2: there's a Twitter thread that I have where I asked 1627 01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:04,519 Speaker 2: Native Poorese speakers why the European commentators don't call any 1628 01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:07,360 Speaker 2: of the guys from Portugal or Brazil with the H 1629 01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:09,280 Speaker 2: in their last day. And there's a lot of complicated 1630 01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:11,760 Speaker 2: reasons certain regions of Brazil might do it more than 1631 01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:13,840 Speaker 2: the others. The Portuguese don't do it as much as 1632 01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:16,280 Speaker 2: the Brazilians. Blah blah blah blah blah. There's all kinds 1633 01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:18,720 Speaker 2: of explanations that they gave. This is an issue I 1634 01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:22,040 Speaker 2: have covered in totality in my life. Did I get 1635 01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:25,120 Speaker 2: the Emirates thing wrong? A billion times? Kill me for it. 1636 01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:28,160 Speaker 2: I was like, fuck this guy, no chance, I got 1637 01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:29,799 Speaker 2: this wrong zero percent. 1638 01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:32,439 Speaker 3: Wow. It was a lot of people came at you 1639 01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:35,519 Speaker 3: for this, Luke. Wow, Luke not taking the l on 1640 01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:38,960 Speaker 3: this one. A lot of dumbasses drinking that red death 1641 01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,960 Speaker 3: flavor power A look at Luke. I love that can that. 1642 01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,320 Speaker 2: I got a lift after this. I gotta get some hydration. 1643 01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,400 Speaker 3: All right, let's close with this on dead wrong. This 1644 01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:46,960 Speaker 3: one's on me. 1645 01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:47,360 Speaker 2: Luke. 1646 01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:51,880 Speaker 3: On the last show, BC referenced Khalil Roundtree Junior when 1647 01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:55,240 Speaker 3: referring to Diego Sanchez and making a joke that he 1648 01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:59,559 Speaker 3: believes there is metaphysical crystal properties the fighter I should 1649 01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:04,320 Speaker 3: have been referencing was actually Jared Cannoneer, Luke, this this 1650 01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:07,160 Speaker 3: does fall into the BC things All black people look 1651 01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:10,559 Speaker 3: the same type of nonsense. I made a mistake, Luke. 1652 01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:12,639 Speaker 3: They are kind of the same fighter in a way. 1653 01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:17,080 Speaker 3: I mean, Canon's better, but you know they're they're both strikers. 1654 01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:20,519 Speaker 2: Luke, I mean Cantaineer's more well rounded. 1655 01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,639 Speaker 3: You try to tell me Rowntree never handled a damn crystal. 1656 01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:26,000 Speaker 3: Prove that to me. Okay, all right, prove that proved 1657 01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:26,320 Speaker 3: me wrong? 1658 01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:28,639 Speaker 2: Right there? By the way, do you can we say 1659 01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:32,280 Speaker 2: this now that it's it's long since past. So this 1660 01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:34,479 Speaker 2: dude and I shared it with you, so you know this. 1661 01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:40,720 Speaker 2: So right around the time after Fury beat Wilder, my 1662 01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:43,320 Speaker 2: brother hit me up and my brother goes, yo, I 1663 01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:48,720 Speaker 2: know this guy who was in he listed off his credentials. 1664 01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:51,240 Speaker 2: You know, this dude had been to the best colleges 1665 01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:53,840 Speaker 2: and worked at you know, the most prestigious firms in 1666 01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:55,439 Speaker 2: his industry. I don't want to say what industry it was, 1667 01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:57,600 Speaker 2: but you know, this dude was not a moron. He 1668 01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:01,360 Speaker 2: was a really established, well well considered professional and he 1669 01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:04,759 Speaker 2: was like this guy was in Bangkok at a nightclub, 1670 01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:08,600 Speaker 2: and he says, Deontay Wilder was there, you know, just 1671 01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:11,400 Speaker 2: days before or maybe a week or so before the 1672 01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:14,400 Speaker 2: second fight with Fury. He has evidence of it. Can 1673 01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:15,920 Speaker 2: he send it to you? And I'm like, well, this 1674 01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,760 Speaker 2: would be a fucking bombshell, no wonder little Yeah, you. 1675 01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:23,679 Speaker 3: Made me download WhatsApp so that the government could Okay. 1676 01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:25,680 Speaker 2: So I look at it and I'm looking at it 1677 01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:28,880 Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, well it's definitely a black dude 1678 01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:33,160 Speaker 2: and he's definitely tall. I don't think that's I don't 1679 01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:36,000 Speaker 2: think that's Deontay. And so I sent it to you 1680 01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:37,400 Speaker 2: and what was your reaction? 1681 01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,800 Speaker 3: Hell no, that's not wellderredy kidding me. That guy doesn't 1682 01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:42,679 Speaker 3: look anthey like him. 1683 01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:45,760 Speaker 2: And then I was like to my brother, I'm like, 1684 01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:48,360 Speaker 2: I think you need to tell your friend he thinks 1685 01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:52,040 Speaker 2: all black people look alike, cause that ain't Deontay, not 1686 01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:54,840 Speaker 2: even a little bit. And there was a bunch of 1687 01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:57,280 Speaker 2: reasons where you could point it out, So God bless 1688 01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:01,920 Speaker 2: the guy he was trying. But no, no, no, no. 1689 01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:04,559 Speaker 3: But that is our accountability of the week. If you 1690 01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:07,640 Speaker 3: hear us say anything else that's wrong, or you just 1691 01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:10,479 Speaker 3: like sticking your finger and Luke's sores and spinning it 1692 01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:12,960 Speaker 3: around a little bit and then maybe smelling it afterwards. 1693 01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:13,400 Speaker 3: I'd be groat. 1694 01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:15,160 Speaker 2: Oh, let me ask you a question. Did you have 1695 01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:17,640 Speaker 2: people email you or whatever hit you up in some 1696 01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:21,839 Speaker 2: kind of way about fighters that they thought were storming 1697 01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:22,360 Speaker 2: the Capitol? 1698 01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:23,680 Speaker 4: No? 1699 01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:24,160 Speaker 2: I did not. 1700 01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:30,960 Speaker 3: I instead get the well meaning, lengthy please that I 1701 01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:36,280 Speaker 3: retire my ignorant, quasi racious shtick because it's only going 1702 01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:38,400 Speaker 3: to ruin your career, Luke. I get people looking out 1703 01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:40,920 Speaker 3: for you when I'm saying, look, I'm just being me, bro, 1704 01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:42,120 Speaker 3: I'm just having fun out here. 1705 01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:44,760 Speaker 2: Right, Okay. Well, after they stormed the capitol, all those 1706 01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:49,360 Speaker 2: QAnon Barnacle, I had people reach out to me being 1707 01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:52,679 Speaker 2: like I've spotted several fighters and then showing me pictures 1708 01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:54,479 Speaker 2: and then like I'll look at these pictures and I'm like, 1709 01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:58,080 Speaker 2: these ain't the fighters. There was one that was kind 1710 01:19:58,120 --> 01:19:59,800 Speaker 2: of close and then I verified for sure it was 1711 01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:02,840 Speaker 2: not person. But I had I got a bunch of 1712 01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:04,840 Speaker 2: those afterwards. Yeah. 1713 01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:08,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's uh well, Luke, I mean would it have 1714 01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:11,519 Speaker 3: made you would you have been surprised, Luke if half 1715 01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:14,719 Speaker 3: of the UFC's uh, you know, light heavyweight division showed 1716 01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:15,679 Speaker 3: up there. Would you have been. 1717 01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:20,120 Speaker 2: Surprised, well, because half a European Yes, but let's say 1718 01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:22,320 Speaker 2: I don't know, half middleweight or some shit. No, I 1719 01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:25,000 Speaker 2: would not. I would not have been surprised. Well. 1720 01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:28,000 Speaker 3: Please, if you have more corrections or fan submissions for 1721 01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:31,320 Speaker 3: Wednesday show, send us an email at Morning Sorry Morning 1722 01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:36,400 Speaker 3: Combat at gmail dot com is the official email address. Also, 1723 01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:40,120 Speaker 3: you can DM me anything you want except for nude pictures. Okay, 1724 01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:41,960 Speaker 3: thank you God. Now, I'm not even gonna say it. 1725 01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:44,240 Speaker 3: Somebody sent me something so reprehensible, Luke that it made 1726 01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:45,560 Speaker 3: me want to Yeah, I'm not even gonna say it. 1727 01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:47,840 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna glorify it, uh, Luke. That's what we 1728 01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:50,639 Speaker 3: got for that. We close every Friday that we remember 1729 01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:54,800 Speaker 3: to prepare for it with just the tip, tip to 1730 01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:59,000 Speaker 3: tip something having to do with a tip. There it is, okay, tip, Luke. 1731 01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:01,840 Speaker 3: This is a segment where we give advice, where we 1732 01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:04,200 Speaker 3: shout out a product, where we do some type of 1733 01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:06,479 Speaker 3: tip of the cap to something. Look, would you like 1734 01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:09,240 Speaker 3: to go first here? You do have producer credits? Uh? 1735 01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,759 Speaker 2: Well, for those reasons, sure I would. This is sad news, 1736 01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:15,719 Speaker 2: but it's a bit of get it while you can 1737 01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:20,679 Speaker 2: here it is you should go buy Thomas Pink shirts. 1738 01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:23,200 Speaker 2: And I said this to Gaffie there it is. Why 1739 01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:25,840 Speaker 2: do I bring this up? Two reasons. One, they have 1740 01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:27,720 Speaker 2: completely gone out of business. The reason why I say 1741 01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:31,160 Speaker 2: you can buy it though, is places like other retailers 1742 01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:35,639 Speaker 2: have leftover inventory. And when that's gone, it's just gone. 1743 01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:37,479 Speaker 2: There's nothing left. Now why do I tell you to 1744 01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:41,920 Speaker 2: buy it? Well, I used to work on K Street, Shaker, BC, 1745 01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:47,880 Speaker 2: and there was case That's where all the all the 1746 01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:53,280 Speaker 2: lobbyists and law firms are that are making our democracy worse. Anyway, 1747 01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:59,080 Speaker 2: near there is on seventeenth in Connecticut is just off 1748 01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,720 Speaker 2: of it, the Mayflower Hotel. That's where that dude, the 1749 01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:05,519 Speaker 2: former governor of New York got caught getting his whistle 1750 01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:06,760 Speaker 2: wet a million. 1751 01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:09,880 Speaker 3: Times anthony, which one was no. 1752 01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:11,640 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no no no. He was never governor of 1753 01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:14,960 Speaker 2: New York. What's this? I can see his face in 1754 01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:17,160 Speaker 2: my in my head. But the point being is this in. 1755 01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:19,879 Speaker 3: That hotel the blind guy, the blind guy, Luke. 1756 01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:21,920 Speaker 2: Not the blind guy, not the blind guy. Hold on, 1757 01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:24,400 Speaker 2: hold on now that you're now that you're bringing it. 1758 01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:26,519 Speaker 3: Up, what are you? 1759 01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:28,760 Speaker 2: Where are we going with this ed Kotch who would 1760 01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:33,160 Speaker 2: wet his whistle? Uh Jesus Christ. 1761 01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:38,160 Speaker 3: Ed Craft Robert Craft got it? 1762 01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:38,519 Speaker 2: Okay? 1763 01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:39,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1764 01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:45,439 Speaker 2: Now Spitzer, Elliott Spitzer jumper. By the way, what what 1765 01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:47,320 Speaker 2: was he? Was he governor at the time or what 1766 01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:49,679 Speaker 2: was he? Yes? He was governor of New York. Yes, Spitzer. Okay. 1767 01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:53,080 Speaker 2: So here's the deal. In the in the in the 1768 01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:55,360 Speaker 2: main floor, there was a Thomas Pink Clothing there because 1769 01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:59,960 Speaker 2: Thomas Peak was a British brand that specialized in shirt making, 1770 01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,479 Speaker 2: and they were very expensive. I could not hardly afford it. 1771 01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:05,000 Speaker 2: So what I would do is I would save my 1772 01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:06,760 Speaker 2: money as much as I could, and then I would 1773 01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:08,479 Speaker 2: buy what I could the ties in the shirts. But 1774 01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:11,599 Speaker 2: they have other stuff too. BC. I have never felt 1775 01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:15,120 Speaker 2: like you just put on that shirt and you felt 1776 01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:17,960 Speaker 2: like a million fucking dollars. You felt like you could 1777 01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:20,960 Speaker 2: walk into any job interview and get it, any presentation 1778 01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:23,120 Speaker 2: and ace it. You know this as well as I do. 1779 01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:26,240 Speaker 2: There is something about wearing a nice suit or a 1780 01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:29,080 Speaker 2: nice you know, nice clothing. I don't mean nice is 1781 01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:31,240 Speaker 2: an expensive but the right kind of fit, the right 1782 01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:34,000 Speaker 2: kind of moment to just make you be the best 1783 01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:38,760 Speaker 2: version of yourself. And I was devastated to learn that 1784 01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:41,720 Speaker 2: they had gone out of business. Apparently the coronavirus has 1785 01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:44,280 Speaker 2: put suit businesses in general, or like you know, high 1786 01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:47,320 Speaker 2: end you know, men's clothing, or you know, not even 1787 01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:49,320 Speaker 2: high end like Joseph A Bank apparently is in trouble 1788 01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:51,920 Speaker 2: or whatever, any any kind of suit making business. The 1789 01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:55,360 Speaker 2: pandemic has fucked those businesses up, as you could well imagine. 1790 01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:58,599 Speaker 2: And Thomas Pink is done for. I was devastated. Never 1791 01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:02,519 Speaker 2: in my life, BC have I felt so confident about 1792 01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:04,000 Speaker 2: the way I looked and when I wore one of 1793 01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,519 Speaker 2: those shirts. And if you have a chance to get one, 1794 01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:08,519 Speaker 2: you know, I know they're They're a little bit on 1795 01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:10,599 Speaker 2: the expensive side. You don't need many. You need one, 1796 01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:13,439 Speaker 2: maybe in your closet too if you're lucky, but get 1797 01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:17,240 Speaker 2: one with the leftover inventory if you can. I cannot 1798 01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:20,679 Speaker 2: recommend more. How well they fit, how well they are made, 1799 01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:21,880 Speaker 2: how long they last? 1800 01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:24,080 Speaker 3: Luke, I like this, I like this tip. 1801 01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:24,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I look this up. 1802 01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:26,919 Speaker 3: I haven't even with that company. 1803 01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:29,920 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, man. I was devastated. They had they had 1804 01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:32,880 Speaker 2: They had a shop on Sixth Avenue. I used to 1805 01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:34,920 Speaker 2: pass it every time I walked a serious XM. When 1806 01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:38,360 Speaker 2: I would leave Morning Combat, I'm so sad to learn 1807 01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:42,120 Speaker 2: about what had happened to them. So whatever's left was 1808 01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:43,400 Speaker 2: out there, go get it. 1809 01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:45,599 Speaker 3: I would have guessed it was wearing a different kind 1810 01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:47,240 Speaker 3: of pink that would make you that confident. 1811 01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:49,760 Speaker 2: Luke, you know that's a stupid thing to say, because 1812 01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:52,080 Speaker 2: you're a stupid, stupid man. Go ahead, No, it's. 1813 01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,439 Speaker 3: It's an Aerosmith song, Luke. I was a part of 1814 01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:56,400 Speaker 3: the nineties. Weren't you with me on that? Put the 1815 01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:57,599 Speaker 3: clicker down there all right? 1816 01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:01,320 Speaker 2: Like they like they say in the rock I don't 1817 01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:05,960 Speaker 2: listen to soft ass shit pee. 1818 01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:09,519 Speaker 3: You love it first, see Luke. My tip of the 1819 01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:11,880 Speaker 3: week is some advice and it goes out to one 1820 01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:17,320 Speaker 3: unbeaten lightweight, Ryan Garcia, fresh off a fantastic knockout win 1821 01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:19,439 Speaker 3: over Luke Campbell and which he got off the deck 1822 01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:22,160 Speaker 3: to do it. Shouts to Golden Boy Promotions, which has 1823 01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:25,599 Speaker 3: sent Ryan Garcia on one hell of a media tour 1824 01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:28,080 Speaker 3: over the past few weeks. Luke, this guy's showing up 1825 01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:32,519 Speaker 3: on everyone's mainstream podcast and TV show. And what I 1826 01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:34,840 Speaker 3: mean you show up in Morning Combat? I mean, how 1827 01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:36,759 Speaker 3: are we not getting anyone anymore, Luke. 1828 01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:38,880 Speaker 2: Did you did you ask for him? We should have 1829 01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:40,439 Speaker 2: asked for him. I bet we could have gotten him. 1830 01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:42,960 Speaker 3: I didn't realize he was going to do this extensive 1831 01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,680 Speaker 3: of a tour. Well, he took himself yesterday to the 1832 01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:49,200 Speaker 3: Rich Eisen Show of course the radio and also a 1833 01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:51,240 Speaker 3: TV show. I think it airs on the Peacock app 1834 01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:55,839 Speaker 3: these days. And Luke, it was a very confident, cocky, 1835 01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:59,360 Speaker 3: you know interview. And I'll say this about Ryan Garcia, 1836 01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:03,240 Speaker 3: he never lacked for confidence, but since really this victory, 1837 01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:06,320 Speaker 3: I'm hearing him speak at a just a with a 1838 01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:09,599 Speaker 3: boldness in his voice, like that thing we showed last week, 1839 01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:11,800 Speaker 3: Luke with him on the Mike Tyson Show on the 1840 01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:14,519 Speaker 3: hot box and thing calling out Tank Davis, Like that's 1841 01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:16,640 Speaker 3: a little bit out of character for him. Well, he 1842 01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:18,639 Speaker 3: was on the Rich Eisen Show going off and one 1843 01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:21,920 Speaker 3: thing he said was that was somewhat interesting is I 1844 01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:23,920 Speaker 3: don't believe him, but he said it that he's only 1845 01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:26,080 Speaker 3: got four years left in this game, that he wants 1846 01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:29,599 Speaker 3: to retire unbeaten at age twenty six, and from now 1847 01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:31,799 Speaker 3: until then he wants to fight all the big names, 1848 01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:34,000 Speaker 3: all killer, no filler, and look, I mean you could 1849 01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:37,280 Speaker 3: take that news with what it is right and just say, Okay, 1850 01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:38,040 Speaker 3: more power to you. 1851 01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:38,680 Speaker 2: I hope you do that. 1852 01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:40,799 Speaker 3: I want to see you in all these big fights. 1853 01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:45,080 Speaker 3: I love when fighters can negotiate their own endgame and 1854 01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:47,880 Speaker 3: get out early and just say, look, I've done all this. 1855 01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:49,200 Speaker 3: I made a lot of money. I'm fine. 1856 01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:51,360 Speaker 2: That's why daughter right here, keep talking, keep talking. 1857 01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:54,000 Speaker 3: But the part I didn't like Luke is what he 1858 01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:59,920 Speaker 3: closed with this long empowered rant that when he gets 1859 01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:03,920 Speaker 3: twenty six and when he retires unbeaten Luke, that he 1860 01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:08,080 Speaker 3: plans to then look around and if there's anyone in 1861 01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:12,600 Speaker 3: the world who's considered the best fighter, even if it's UFC, 1862 01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:15,960 Speaker 3: that he's gonna go. Look, I can't follow this. I mean, 1863 01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:16,960 Speaker 3: come on, I can't follow that. 1864 01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:20,760 Speaker 2: This was a stupid point. Ryan Garcia said stupid things. 1865 01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:24,200 Speaker 3: Ryan Garcia basically said, Luke at twenty six, when he's unbeaten, 1866 01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:26,960 Speaker 3: if it means going into the octagon to prove that 1867 01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,320 Speaker 3: he's the best in the world, he's gonna do it, 1868 01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:32,240 Speaker 3: and he's gonna knock this guy out and blah blah. 1869 01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:36,240 Speaker 3: Here's the thing, Ragui, stop talking about the octagon, like 1870 01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:40,000 Speaker 3: call out everyone call out somebody in boxing two client 1871 01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:42,720 Speaker 3: weight classes ahead of you. Call off Floyd Mayweather, call 1872 01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:45,760 Speaker 3: out anybody, call out Connor McGregor to come to the 1873 01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:49,400 Speaker 3: boxing ring. Stop saying that without any extra training, you're 1874 01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:51,080 Speaker 3: just gonna walk. It's just a waste of our time 1875 01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,360 Speaker 3: and it makes you look stupid, and you're coming off 1876 01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:55,800 Speaker 3: such a great stretch where you look great. Milk that 1877 01:27:56,120 --> 01:28:00,160 Speaker 3: stay away from the octagon. Luke, back to your daughter here, ducky, ducky, all. 1878 01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:17,840 Speaker 2: Right, broccoli hik me owl apple, chicken the wah. No, 1879 01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:18,840 Speaker 2: you don't want to saynything else. 1880 01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:22,280 Speaker 3: Uncle peepe Can. 1881 01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:32,480 Speaker 2: You say Peppe? Can you say Brian? Can you say Brian? 1882 01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:36,680 Speaker 2: Say Brian, say Brian. 1883 01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:40,320 Speaker 3: Vo say Brian Vio say. 1884 01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:44,519 Speaker 2: Brian say try it say Brian. Oh that means she's hungry. Okay, 1885 01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:46,760 Speaker 2: all right, you want to say it here? Stand up, 1886 01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:53,080 Speaker 2: stand up, stand up? There you go. Woo. You want 1887 01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:57,559 Speaker 2: to say to the people, wave, wave, say hi to 1888 01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:00,559 Speaker 2: the people with your shirt is a mess, it's all dirty. Hey, 1889 01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:02,120 Speaker 2: we want to tell everyone you shot on the floor 1890 01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:02,559 Speaker 2: this morning. 1891 01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:06,599 Speaker 3: O my god, Luke, you can't embarrass her like that. 1892 01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:10,320 Speaker 2: Come on, Luke, sees my little angel, say it was 1893 01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:10,760 Speaker 2: the dog. 1894 01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:12,280 Speaker 3: Say it was booger? Right? 1895 01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:17,559 Speaker 2: Were you my? Are you my little angel? Owl? You 1896 01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:19,760 Speaker 2: want to see owls? Okay, well, we're derailing the show, 1897 01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:21,920 Speaker 2: but I'm as my fault. It's not yours. Okay, Please 1898 01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:26,799 Speaker 2: don't please don't poop on the floor. Okay, Okay, tigers, 1899 01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:33,080 Speaker 2: there we go. Okay, bye bye bye bye. 1900 01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:39,120 Speaker 3: Oh look, these moments are priceless, Luke. One day you 1901 01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:41,479 Speaker 3: can put this together in a real of all her 1902 01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:44,160 Speaker 3: great appearances on your shows. But maybe you can sleep 1903 01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:46,719 Speaker 3: out the please don't shoot on the floor moving forward comment. 1904 01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:48,400 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, you know what, I'm gonna send that to 1905 01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:49,760 Speaker 2: her when she goes on her first date. 1906 01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:53,880 Speaker 3: I mean, did she just like she just picked a 1907 01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:55,720 Speaker 3: spot out and was like, yeah, this, this looks good. 1908 01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:57,960 Speaker 2: Right here they were they were gonna bathe her this morning, 1909 01:29:57,960 --> 01:29:59,639 Speaker 2: and they did bathe her, but they what they did 1910 01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:02,679 Speaker 2: was you gotta play it right. They took her clothes off, 1911 01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:05,559 Speaker 2: and they took off her diaper, and they were gonna 1912 01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:07,599 Speaker 2: send her right to the bathroom. But then they waited 1913 01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:10,160 Speaker 2: a second to go like check the mail, or just 1914 01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:13,599 Speaker 2: let her run around naked for you know, thirty seconds. Yeah, yeah, 1915 01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:15,559 Speaker 2: you just don't you just don't do that. By the way, 1916 01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:18,200 Speaker 2: one note here, I was on Nordstrom rack looking up 1917 01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:21,760 Speaker 2: Thomas Pink shirts ready as they get rid of their inventory. 1918 01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:25,599 Speaker 2: I cannot overstate the sales. They had a blue dress 1919 01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:29,120 Speaker 2: shirt normal price one hundred and eighty bucks down to 1920 01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:32,679 Speaker 2: fifty nine dollars. Fifty nine dollars down from one hundred 1921 01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:36,519 Speaker 2: and eighty Go get anything Thomas Pink sells, trust me. 1922 01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:40,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then the other Pink you know if you 1923 01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:42,559 Speaker 3: can pull that off too, right, you know you're so dumb. 1924 01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:47,800 Speaker 3: All right, Luke, that's our show for this day Friday. 1925 01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:51,960 Speaker 3: Please everyone enjoy the comeback of the USC in UFC. 1926 01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:55,080 Speaker 3: Enjoyed the fights on ABC this weekend. Please continue to 1927 01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:58,960 Speaker 3: patronize us in terms of our merch at store dot 1928 01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:01,040 Speaker 3: show dot com. Look, I know you gave a lot 1929 01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:03,720 Speaker 3: of talk about Thomas Pink, but nothing fits, Luke, like 1930 01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:06,599 Speaker 3: that makes you feel like a million bucks like MK merch. Okay, 1931 01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:09,479 Speaker 3: all right, all right, I mean that just it just 1932 01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:11,880 Speaker 3: feels so good, Luke, It just feels so good, you 1933 01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:15,000 Speaker 3: know what I mean? Yeah, I love it. I love it. 1934 01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:17,639 Speaker 3: Please head on over to showtime dot com for your 1935 01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:20,160 Speaker 3: thirty day free trial. Tell them BC sent you. You'll 1936 01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:23,040 Speaker 3: get a nice uh. You probably get some merch that 1937 01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:25,439 Speaker 3: they won't send Luke, but they will send me. Also, 1938 01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:28,439 Speaker 3: please check out our extensive bonus work from Luke's live 1939 01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:32,719 Speaker 3: chat yesterday to our interviews this week with Michael keysa 1940 01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:34,880 Speaker 3: with Michael Chandler, a lot of Michael's going on. Shout 1941 01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:38,000 Speaker 3: out to Michael mormyle, our producer as well. There's our 1942 01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:41,120 Speaker 3: social handles and channels you can follow us there as well. 1943 01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:44,439 Speaker 3: A great week for Gaff Minich anyone not named Jay 1944 01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:47,200 Speaker 3: who has produced this show. Shout out to those guys 1945 01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:50,280 Speaker 3: as well. Luke, you have any other final message for. 1946 01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:53,120 Speaker 2: The people, No, next week is going to be interesting 1947 01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:57,880 Speaker 2: because there's three events so well sort of three, I 1948 01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:00,880 Speaker 2: mean three in a eight day span. Obviously Monday show 1949 01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:04,240 Speaker 2: will react to the weekends fights. I don't yet know. 1950 01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:07,160 Speaker 2: We can't say a whole lot about Wednesday's show, I 1951 01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:10,080 Speaker 2: don't or even Thursday's live chat. There's still a lot 1952 01:32:10,120 --> 01:32:12,439 Speaker 2: that's up in the air. But here's what I know. 1953 01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:16,200 Speaker 2: We are gonna have tons of extra coverage next week. 1954 01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:18,200 Speaker 2: We're just not exactly sure what the plan is yet, 1955 01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:19,160 Speaker 2: right you see. 1956 01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:23,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, we we are gonna have. We're gonna have a 1957 01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:25,320 Speaker 3: lot of good stuff potentially next week. There's some decisions 1958 01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:27,639 Speaker 3: that have be made. But if if they vote yes, Luke, 1959 01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:30,040 Speaker 3: next week's gonna be a special one for MK. Obviously, 1960 01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:32,960 Speaker 3: show Time Boxing's back, Conor McGregor is gonna top all 1961 01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:34,800 Speaker 3: the headlines. It's gonna be a great week with a 1962 01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:37,679 Speaker 3: Wednesday show with UFC two fifty seven. But we're looking 1963 01:32:37,720 --> 01:32:41,200 Speaker 3: to penetrate our people's face holes with great content coming 1964 01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:43,200 Speaker 3: your way, Luke. Luke, there's a let's just say it. 1965 01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:44,720 Speaker 3: There's a chance you and I are gonna be in 1966 01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:46,840 Speaker 3: person this week. And if we do, Luke, we are 1967 01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:49,960 Speaker 3: gonna make the magic happen. Okay, we are, but. 1968 01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:52,120 Speaker 2: I don't want to get people's hopes up. It's not confirmed. 1969 01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:55,160 Speaker 2: We don't know yet, but we're there's a there's a 1970 01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:57,920 Speaker 2: decent possibility. How about that? All right? 1971 01:32:58,040 --> 01:32:59,720 Speaker 3: I love it. I love our viewers. Thank you to 1972 01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:02,120 Speaker 3: every buddy for supporting us. Please like this video. If 1973 01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:04,160 Speaker 3: you haven't subscribed yet and you'd be grazing off the 1974 01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:07,160 Speaker 3: land for free, please do it. We just hit seventy 1975 01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:11,080 Speaker 3: five k yesterday, Luke, our boy Gaff Pierre sent us 1976 01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:15,040 Speaker 3: a great text to celebrate that we're going big. Okay, Luke, 1977 01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:16,280 Speaker 3: I don't know how soon we're going to get to 1978 01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:18,320 Speaker 3: a hundred one hundred, but if people knew the kind 1979 01:33:18,360 --> 01:33:20,479 Speaker 3: of plans we have moving forward, it could be quick. 1980 01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:22,639 Speaker 3: If we get to five hundred k. Your boy BC 1981 01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:25,000 Speaker 3: has to get a tattoo apparently. And you know my 1982 01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:27,360 Speaker 3: history with needles. I was even talking to Kisa about 1983 01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:30,200 Speaker 3: the damn U three needles. Luke, really really a dark 1984 01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:31,080 Speaker 3: point in my life. 1985 01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:34,920 Speaker 2: You bring that up like it's a big deal. It's 1986 01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:38,080 Speaker 2: not a big deal, Luke. 1987 01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:41,120 Speaker 3: I mean, how how much do you value your your 1988 01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:44,040 Speaker 3: your your satch, your your your package? You know what 1989 01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:45,600 Speaker 3: I'm saying? Like would you want? I mean, can I 1990 01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:49,280 Speaker 3: penetrate that three times? Luke? I mean really, I think. 1991 01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:51,559 Speaker 2: More of the issue is what kind of healthcare did 1992 01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:53,360 Speaker 2: you have that you went to a guy who did 1993 01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:57,160 Speaker 2: Civil War dentistry and surgery. 1994 01:33:57,280 --> 01:34:00,240 Speaker 3: I know, no research. I picked out a book. You're 1995 01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:02,360 Speaker 3: a seventy five year old Vietnam veteran who was working 1996 01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:04,559 Speaker 3: one day a week, but they said he's done thousands 1997 01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:06,240 Speaker 3: of them. He's great. You know. You know what's funny 1998 01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:09,280 Speaker 3: is I ran into two other dads in this town 1999 01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:12,960 Speaker 3: randomly had conversations. Somehow we ended up on vestectomy and 2000 01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:15,080 Speaker 3: they're like, oh no, please tell me you didn't go 2001 01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:17,760 Speaker 3: to the butcher. We all went to the same guy, Luke. 2002 01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:23,400 Speaker 3: So yeah, I was a man coming in. Luke. I 2003 01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:26,640 Speaker 3: left exactly how I am right now. So we had 2004 01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:29,400 Speaker 3: a good run there, all right, Luke a very damaged man, 2005 01:34:30,160 --> 01:34:33,240 Speaker 3: very damaged man. May all your ex lovers be satisfied 2006 01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:35,920 Speaker 3: and all your gains, you know, whatever you can do 2007 01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:38,360 Speaker 3: with them. My name is BC for Luke Thomas and 2008 01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:42,320 Speaker 3: the great crew. At showtime, Malchos CBS Sports signing off 2009 01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:45,240 Speaker 3: for now with two words were. 2010 01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:46,439 Speaker 2: I got ticket bill. 2011 01:35:15,840 --> 01:36:00,600 Speaker 3: Yeah,