1 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: Hi everyone, and welcome back to another episode of Wide 2 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: Open with Ashland Harris. Today, I'm sitting down with someone 3 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: who has redefined what it means to take up space, 4 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: Lily saying, welcome to. 5 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 2: The show. 6 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 3: To talk to you. 7 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: Yes, I mean, if you don't know who Lily is, 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: let me explain. You started your career you as a 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: YouTuber and you blew it out of the water. Let's 10 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: just say you're one of the ogs, is what I 11 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: like to say. 12 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: Not only that you became a late. 13 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: Night TV show host, one of one, you're acting, you're producing, 14 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: you're directing, and you have an upcoming film doing it. Lily, 15 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. 16 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. You wake me up. Let's go. 17 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: You know what, cheers to that. 18 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: Here we are. We are really just cheers to the queers. 19 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: I'm having a beer because I can and I'm of age. 20 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 3: So and you can do whatever you want. 21 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 2: Maybe I can do whatever the fuck I want. 22 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 3: And here we are. 23 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: Well, thanks for coming on. I am so obsessed with you. 24 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: We've been I guess what do you call that these days? 25 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: Internet friends? 26 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 3: Internet always We've met once, we've been Internet friends, but 27 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 3: I've been dying to get to know you better because 28 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 3: I feel like we're. 29 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: Your hype on the sidelines of every sports game, whether 30 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: it's soccer, basketball, or anything in between, is one of one. 31 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 2: I mean, the energy is electric. 32 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 3: That means a lot to me. I do really ride 33 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 3: myself in my energy and my book to hype people up. 34 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 3: I feel like you're a really good cheerleader. 35 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: And hello, you are now in the ownership group of 36 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: the new Toronto w NBA team. 37 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 3: Yes, Toronto time but which is a dream for me. 38 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 3: So I, as you know, part owner of Angel City, 39 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 3: which is the LA women's soccer team. Love, but I'm 40 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 3: from Toronto originally Toronto. I'm writer by Toronto and this 41 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 3: is Canada's first of your vay team, you know as 42 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 3: the on We have one NBA team as well. So 43 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 3: if I wasn't a part of this, I would be devasting. 44 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 3: Oh my god. Yes, I'm a part owner of the 45 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 3: Toronto Tempo and my official title is the Chief Hype Officer. 46 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, where's the sign? Where's the sign in the back 47 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: of your office? I need it? 48 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 3: No, what I actually do have when it's over there somewhere, 49 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 3: I will this My new gallery wall has oh right there, 50 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: that's a little she making money moves. 51 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: Honey, No, come on, we love a gallery wall. I 52 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: mean you're in good company. Serena Williams, Hello. 53 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 3: I know. I mean those love play sports. Just associate 54 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 3: with sports. That's what I do. 55 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: Well, be easy. I see you working out on that Instagram. 56 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 3: I see you hitting the way sinking. 57 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: I pay attention. Okay, if you're a hype woman too, No, 58 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 2: I'm sure I. 59 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 3: Work out a little something. So I don't want to 60 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 3: be able to like lift a girl. You know, That's 61 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So I literally work out so I 62 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 3: can lift a girl. 63 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: Can Can you put that on my my grave? 64 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: Please? 65 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 3: When I'm gone. 66 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: That's all I want. I work out to lift the girl. 67 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 3: That's it. Hell no physical, but not literally. I just 68 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 3: want to lift a girl. 69 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: I love your energy like it's it's so good. 70 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 3: So tell me Lily. 71 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: For people who don't know you, you grew up, You're from Canada. 72 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: I think that is what nowadays in this political climate, 73 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: we call the golden ticket. 74 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: I'd love one too. 75 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 3: You should all line up to marry outside my house 76 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 3: every day. There should be a line of people. You know. 77 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 3: When I first moved to la in twenty fifteen, a 78 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 3: really hard time about being Canadian, made fun of a lot, 79 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 3: and now I'm like, you can single file line up 80 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 3: outside my house to marry me, to try to become 81 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 3: a Canadian citizen. Yes. I was born in Toronto, Canada 82 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 3: to amazing parents are Indian immigrants, and somehow, some way, 83 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 3: in the end of my university career, I decided to 84 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 3: upload a YouTube video. You know, growing up I always 85 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 3: wanted to entertain I was like in the middle of 86 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 3: the dance circle. I loved watching movies and TV shows. 87 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 3: I just loved entertainment. Never thought I could actually do 88 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: because you're going out growing up in a small town. 89 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 3: You're like, how am I gonna do this? No casting 90 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 3: directors here, I don't know anything about this. Discovered YouTube 91 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: in twenty ten, uploaded a YouTube video, thought nothing of it. 92 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 3: Seventy people watched it, and I was like, I don't 93 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 3: know seventy people, so clearly this is working and it 94 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 3: snowballed into this career that I was not at all 95 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 3: prepared for. And how did that shape you? Because you 96 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 3: were pretty. 97 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: Young, right, So, like you say, you always wanted to 98 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: be in entertainment, Like was that the hot did you 99 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: want to be in like Hollywood, did you want to 100 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: be on TV or just anything entertainment? You wanted to 101 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: grab people's attention, make them laugh, and slowly you started 102 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: realizing you can make a career out of this, or 103 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: like where was the shift? 104 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 3: No, I think I had the dream of being entertainment, 105 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 3: but I never felt realistic, like I have a degree 106 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 3: in psychology. I was very ready to live this very 107 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 3: in your life that everyone had set out for me. 108 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 3: I didn't actually think I could get into entertainment. And 109 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: then when I started making YouTube douse, the shift came 110 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 3: in the lack of gatekeepers around YouTube and I could 111 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 3: talk about whatever I want to talk about. That for 112 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 3: the first time, I felt liberated to like make the 113 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 3: things I thought were funnier, like have the discussions I 114 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 3: thought were really important that I wasn't seeing on TV, 115 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 3: especially from people that looked like me. And so the 116 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 3: shift came from like this liberating like I can do 117 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 3: whatever I want and talk about whatever I want and 118 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,679 Speaker 3: people are actually gravitating towards it, which is really cool. 119 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: I love that, And like who was Lily as a kid? 120 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: Like like how did you move? How'd you take up space? 121 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: Because you are such a beautiful personality and so well 122 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: rounded because you don't take yourself so serious, like I 123 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: feel like the entertainment where all people are like and 124 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: you kind of like poke holes at it a little bit, 125 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: which makes me laugh. 126 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 3: Yeah. I literally posted on my story this morning that 127 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 3: I literally got full glammed to do this virtual interview, 128 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 3: and I was like, zoom, Literally there's probably accult record. 129 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 3: Use why did I pay and hundreds of dollars? Why 130 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 3: Because I'm a fool, Because this industry is foolish, because 131 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 3: it really is. Anyways, all this is thing. Yes, I don't. 132 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 3: I try not to take it all too seriously, mostly 133 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 3: because you'll go crazy. You'll go insane. If you take 134 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 3: it too seriously, you'll go insane. Well who was I 135 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 3: as a kid? Well, I'm gonna answer this question, and 136 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 3: then as soon as I'm done answering, you're gonna be like, 137 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 3: and you didn't know you were a gay? Telling you're 138 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 3: thirty and trust me, I know I was a huge 139 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 3: comboy growing up, always every opportunity going against the grain, 140 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 3: Like didn't want to wear the clothes people wanted me 141 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 3: to wear, didn't want to do the degree people wanted 142 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 3: me to do, didn't have the career people wanted me 143 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 3: to have, don't have the sexuality I've won't expected me 144 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 3: to have, Just constantly challenging and going against the grain. 145 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 3: Like I want to paint my room red. My mom says, 146 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 3: you can't page your room red. Now it's my mission 147 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 3: to paint my room red. Like I was just that 148 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 3: kid through and through, like very opinionated, wanted things to 149 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 3: be the way she wanted them to be. And that's 150 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 3: kind of still how I am, to be honest. 151 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: I love it. 152 00:06:58,200 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: And you, I mean, I didn't know you as a kid, 153 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: but like it seems like you haven't changed a bit, 154 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: and I love that about you because you're just real. 155 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 3: Really yeah, but real and raw. 156 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: But do you think that's the difference between growing up 157 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: through social media and just sharing who you are, no 158 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: strings attached, kind of like take it or leave it, 159 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: subscribe or unsubscribe, and really growing up in the La 160 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: Hollywood industry. I think that really there is a big 161 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: difference there because that's maybe the reason why you can 162 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: poke fun a little bit of like the entertainment space 163 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: and you know the bullshit that kind of comes with it. 164 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 3: It's a little bit of a. 165 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: Circus if you've ever been a part of it. 166 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: I don't know how I'll do it, but I see 167 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: a little bit of it now and I'm like, Hello, 168 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: I'm fascinated. 169 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 3: By people that were born and raised now because I 170 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 3: always think that I'm like, you were really raised in 171 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 3: this environment where things that I think are so extraordinary 172 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 3: you think are so normal. I think growing up in 173 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 3: Toronto really has helped me come at it from a 174 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 3: point of view that's like, you know, La is a bubble. 175 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 3: It's I don't get a wrong. I actually love LA. 176 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 3: I think it's like my second home, and I really 177 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 3: really love the people here. But it is a bubble 178 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 3: and it is important to leave every once in a 179 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 3: while because when you leave LA and I go back 180 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 3: home to my hometown of Toronto, when I talk to 181 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 3: my friends and I say things like Roku and Hulu 182 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 3: and ted Lasso, They're like, I actually don't know what 183 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: you're talking about. 184 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: No. 185 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 3: I dressed up as Ted Lasso for Halloween three years 186 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: ago and none of my friends in Toronto knew who 187 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 3: it was. They're like, what are you talking about? They're like, what, 188 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 3: they don't have Hulu there, they don't. I'm like, you know, 189 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 3: the show directed by so and so, and they're like, literally, no, no, 190 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 3: what are you talking. So you realize that this is 191 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 3: not this is just a bubble that we live in, 192 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 3: and it's a lovely bubble, but it's important to leave 193 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 3: this bubble every people. 194 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: I agree and with that, because you know, you did 195 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: bring a very beautiful diversity component to media, because like 196 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: I my first year i played what used to be 197 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: the WPS was in Western New York. So the only 198 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: place for us to go when you live like the 199 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: Rochester area, Buffalo area. 200 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 3: Was Toronto. 201 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: But what I knew about Toronto at a very very 202 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: early age is it's beautifully diverse and the food is 203 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: fucking phenomenal, Oh my. 204 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 2: God, everything. 205 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: And I don't necessarily think probably when you were doing, 206 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: like you know, your roots in YouTube, that media was 207 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: very diverse. You kind of blew that door wide open. 208 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: You were the first for a lot of things. Did 209 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: you realize when you were doing that at that age 210 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: the significance and the impact you were having on the 211 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 1: platform in the landscape of media and diversity or No, 212 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: So in. 213 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 3: The moment when I was doing it, of course, I 214 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 3: used to it comments that were like, oh my god, 215 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 3: I've never seen someone that looks like you're talking about this. 216 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 3: I feel so seen and so I think to a degree, 217 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 3: but not really. I think recently it has become a 218 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 3: parent to me, you know, not really lovely things happened, 219 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 3: which is that my fans are kind of grown up 220 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 3: with me. I started making you twoas in twenty ten 221 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 3: and for that entire you know, for the five six 222 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 3: years following up until like, I don't know, probably even 223 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 3: just two years ago, when people approach me on the 224 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 3: streets and be like, oh my god, I love you. 225 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 3: Can I get a selfie? Can I get a selfie? Like? 226 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 3: I want you so lovely? And I love that interaction 227 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 3: to but the interaction's actually changed over the past two years. 228 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 3: When people approach me, they're very vocal about I just 229 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 3: want to let you know that I actually, like completely 230 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 3: changed my career path because I saw you do entertainment 231 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 3: or like I came out to my parents and I 232 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 3: never thought I would do that because you paved the 233 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 3: path for someone like me coming up. So I think 234 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 3: I've been really lucky and that people have shared these 235 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 3: really awesome, vulnerable stories and I can see now the 236 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 3: impact of like representation you know, representations become such a buzzword, yes, 237 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 3: but it's real, Like when you can see someone else 238 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 3: doing it, it makes it easier to have the conversation 239 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 3: with yourself. It makes it easier for you to have 240 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 3: conversation with your parents, with your community, to be like, look, 241 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 3: there is a little bit of a road. Now, we've 242 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 3: seen it happen now, and so I didn't realize it 243 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 3: completely then, but I'm so grateful that I get to 244 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 3: realize it now. And I really don't take that lightly. 245 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 3: I won't lie. You mentioned that I've been the first 246 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 3: at a lot of things, and I know when I say 247 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 3: that people like, that's so awesome, that's so cool. It 248 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 3: is it's also really hard and scary. It's really carrying 249 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 3: a lot of a burden that you're not prepared and 250 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 3: you don't know how to carry it. But I'm happy 251 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 3: I've done it because I think a lot of people 252 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 3: have been able to make more authentic choices because they 253 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 3: sell me authentic choices. 254 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's another segue into what I 255 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: think is so impressive about Lily, is like, you've really 256 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: re defined yourself over and over and over, and you've 257 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: done it so honestly and openly. Do you feel as 258 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: you've grown with your audience and you've grown up, you know, 259 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: really in people's homes, like people feel like they know 260 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: you through what you've created through your content. 261 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 2: Is there ever. 262 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: A time when you're like, man, I just wish that 263 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: was different, or I wish I could have maybe taken 264 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: that back, or maybe that's too much. And I want 265 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: to be like sacred with this type of privacy because 266 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: I know you came out was it Twitter. I think 267 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: there's a lot there of openness that people are so 268 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: scared to do. But I'm curious, as you've lived it 269 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: and you've reinvented yourself over and over and over, was 270 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 1: there ever times when you were like, man, I just 271 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: shouldn't have done that, or ah, that might have been 272 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: too much? 273 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 3: Totally? Yes, absolutely. I mean I am a pretty open person. 274 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 3: I've always been really open about mental health while things 275 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 3: I'm going through in my life. But I do also 276 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 3: think timing is important and if I could go back, 277 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 3: though I don't hella believe in regrets, if I could, 278 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 3: I could just would tweak a little tweak on something, 279 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 3: it would definitely be around late night, you know, late 280 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 3: night was. There was so many eyeballs on me. I'm 281 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 3: such an historic thing. I chose to come out before 282 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 3: my late night show, and at that time, I know 283 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 3: what I was thinking. I had just come out to myself. 284 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 3: It was like a truth I was going through. These 285 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 3: two things coincided in terms of time in a very 286 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 3: complex way, and I was like, oh, it wouldn't be 287 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 3: so lovely during the show. I could be my most 288 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 3: authentic self and I could like talk about this openly. 289 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 3: I don't know if that was the most mentally healthy 290 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 3: thing to do, because what had happened was everyone just 291 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 3: tied my sexuality to that show, and people were not 292 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 3: people to watch the show without commenting on my sexuality, 293 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 3: and so they became like synonymous with each other in 294 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 3: a way that was real, really tough, because the late 295 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 3: night show was already really hard to do. Ninety six 296 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 3: episodes in three months is already really hard to do. 297 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 3: It's already really tough. To throw in a huge personal 298 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 3: monkey wrench is probably not the best thing to have done. 299 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 3: I could have probably just like dealt with Late Night 300 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 3: and dealt with that separately. I don't again, I don't 301 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 3: fault myself for doing that I know, I felt compelled 302 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 3: to do it because it felt stressful to have it 303 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 3: within me. And if I could go back and probably 304 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 3: probably tweaked that a little bit, you know, just because 305 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 3: I just feel like when I did my monologues, I 306 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 3: remember like, because before the late night show, people would 307 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 3: say things to me like all the Indians are counting 308 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 3: on you, all the queers are counting on you, all 309 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 3: the women are counting on you. I'm like, there's a 310 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 3: lot of people that are counting on me. And so 311 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 3: I would feel stressing, you know. I would do the 312 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 3: monologues and I would get comments from people that were like, 313 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 3: we get it, you're queer, we get it, Like stop 314 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 3: talking about being bisexual, and people would be jabbing holes 315 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 3: in me. And I remember there was one day that 316 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 3: I went back into my green room and I literally 317 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 3: made a list being like how many times should I 318 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 3: mention being a woman? How many times should I not 319 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 3: mention being queer? Like it was getting crazy. This is bad, 320 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 3: this is in a bad, not healthy situation right now. 321 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: Well, it also is hard. And I think this is 322 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: the thing that most people don't realize. And when I 323 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: say this, I want to be very clear and specific 324 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: in terms of the divide. There are people who grow 325 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: up in Hollywood who can act out other characters. There 326 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: are people in Hollywood who have openly acted out their 327 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: lives on the screen like YouTube or social media or. 328 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: Whatever they came. 329 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: It opens a massive floodgate for a lot of judgment, 330 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: And there's a big difference there. What do you have 331 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: like over twelve twelve million people viewing your content all 332 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: the time? Like that opens so many doors of hate judgment, 333 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: And it's so brave just to say I'm just going 334 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: to be me, even though I'm going to take so 335 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: much scrutiny and whatever comes with that wave of social 336 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: hate and keyboard warriors. And I do think there is 337 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: a big difference. And I know now you're, you know, 338 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: really in the entertainment space of acting and producing and 339 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: developing a lot of stuff, which you've always been a 340 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: creative and clearly very good at it. Do you feel 341 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: like one is harder than the other or one has 342 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: really been a little more difficult for you because you 343 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 1: have given so much, so many people access to who you. 344 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: Has that been hard on partners? Has that been hard 345 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: on your family? Like I'm just curious because I don't 346 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: I've never had that type of weight on my back 347 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: or following, but I can imagine it's a lot to carry. 348 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think you really hit the nail on 349 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 3: the head with that. There is a safety, definitely that 350 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 3: because I've been able to do both. I've been able 351 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 3: to go on set and play a character. But there 352 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 3: is safety behind dialogue, yes, and someone else writing those 353 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 3: words and being on set and getting to do things 354 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 3: over multiple times, you know what I mean? Yeah, there 355 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 3: is no safety really, and being live, we're talking from 356 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 3: your point of view, We're talking about your life experience. 357 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 3: There is no dialogue, there's no script there. And so 358 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 3: I do think that they're liberating in different ways, and 359 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 3: I think that they are beautiful in different ways that 360 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 3: I love both equally, but definitely, when I'm on set 361 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 3: as a character, I don't feel the level of anxiety 362 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 3: I feel when I do something live or as myself, 363 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 3: because I'm like, that's the character. Whatever you're saying is 364 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 3: about the character. That's not not me. If you hate 365 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 3: that character, that makes me a good actress. Actually, you 366 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 3: know what I mean. If you hate, really you're commenting 367 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 3: on me who I am. It's very, very different, and 368 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 3: so yeah, of course I And you know, I'm a 369 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 3: pretty open person and a lot of parts of my 370 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 3: life are public. I've also made very active efforts to 371 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 3: make certain things private. So I've never had a public relationship. 372 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 3: I have not been public about like some intimate family 373 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 3: stuff because that's not my story to tell, and I 374 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 3: still want to be a full human. I'm so open 375 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 3: with things like mental health and what I think will 376 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 3: help people, but it has been a constant chance of 377 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 3: like is this something I'm going to share with everyone 378 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 3: or is there not anything? Will be surprised to learn 379 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 3: that I do actually have a lot of private elements 380 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 3: in my life. I've been I'm really proud. 381 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: Of the fact that I have that, and talk to 382 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 1: me about that, because I do think we live in 383 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: a really hard world where we want to share ourselves 384 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: and our story and we want to connect with people, 385 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: because we live in a really fragmented world where you know, 386 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: this has become life and social media has become life. 387 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: How do you protect your backsies? Like what are your 388 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: what is your safety net? Like? Where do you draw 389 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: the line as someone who's been so open and vulnerable 390 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: where you're not willing to uh really dive into that 391 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: because you are open about mental health, and I know 392 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 1: a lot of young people in this especially our queer community, 393 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: are just being targeted relentlessly right now. And I'm curious, 394 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: for someone who's really lived out loud on a lot 395 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: of these platforms, what advice could you share with a 396 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: lot of our younger queer kids who might be struggling 397 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: with the way people are showing up and hating on them. 398 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 1: Because I'm sure as long as you've been in this space, 399 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: you've probably dealt with it all. 400 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 3: Oh, I have definitely don't at all. Well, there's a 401 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 3: few questions there. One is about boundaries. I have a 402 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 3: lot of I'm a nerdy person. I like do a 403 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 3: lot of mental health practices. I have a lot of 404 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 3: virtuals in my life. I do a lot of things. 405 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 3: That always said that my job is ten percent entertainment 406 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 3: and ninety percent mental. I really do believe that, like 407 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 3: big part of my job is making sure I'm good 408 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 3: up here so I can be good up here. And so, 409 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 3: like avid avid believer in therapy, I consistently go to 410 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 3: therapy a journal almost every single day. I have like 411 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 3: a nightly routine that is full of self compassions, well, 412 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 3: I have a lot of practice in my life. I'll 413 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 3: give you an example, which is this show right here. 414 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 3: When I was part of the Muppets Mayhem. You know, 415 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 3: the Muppets has a really intense fan base, and when 416 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 3: I was announced, there was a lot of feelings about 417 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 3: someone that looks like me being in part of the Muppets, 418 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 3: and I remember that being really devastating. I talked to 419 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 3: my therapist about and I was like, this show was 420 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 3: not even out yet. I don't even know how to 421 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 3: deal with this. One of the things I did around 422 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 3: the Muppets that I actually have kept true to me 423 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 3: through all my projects is when a project comes out, 424 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 3: I have a rule that I tell my team which 425 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 3: is for at least five days, I don't want to 426 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 3: hear a single review, a single article. I don't want 427 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 3: I actually delete social media off my phone. I actually 428 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 3: want to take those five days to celebrate this thing 429 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 3: without any other noise, because I think timing is really important. 430 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 3: You know, when you're already in a vulnerable state, it's 431 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 3: almost self harm for you to then go seek out 432 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 3: people and things that are gonna make you distraw. Same 433 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 3: thing with coming out, same things like if you're going 434 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 3: through a sensor like, don't go seek out in that moment. 435 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 3: Give yourself the five days to be like, yeah, let 436 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 3: me process this is myself, let me celebrate, this is myself. 437 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 3: When me live this is myself, and you become much 438 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 3: more resilient to taking in that noise. After about five days, 439 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 3: I would say, And so I I also delete Instagram. 440 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 3: I don't have tik talk on my phone. I haven't 441 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 3: had it for years. Instagram, I like, I delete it 442 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 3: all the time. If I find myself like I'm out 443 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 3: with friends and I find myself scrolling and out being present, 444 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 3: I just delete. Yeah, Like you're gone for the day, 445 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 3: I'm gonna just delete you for the next two days. 446 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 3: I really it. It's not permanent on your phone, y'all. 447 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 3: You can read download at any time, but just it's 448 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,479 Speaker 3: the second you get into the muscle memory of like, 449 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 3: oh I'm feel how did I even I want to 450 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 3: go check the weather? How am I on Instagram? Right now? 451 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 3: It's just a rabbit hole. Another trick you can do. 452 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 3: Now we're getting really nerdy. You're going to see how 453 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 3: type I am move where it is on the home screen, 454 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 3: because really, it's just your muscle memory. Going and clicking 455 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 3: and you don't even realize and to secalizing it. Wait, 456 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 3: what's happening? Just getting yourself out of that rhythm again. 457 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 3: That's so true. 458 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: I think I need to try this a little bit. 459 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 2: I need to be better at it. 460 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 3: I think we. 461 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: Probably all do, truthfully. I'm like, it is such, it's 462 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: a formative habit. Habit for me, I'll just pick the 463 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: phone up and start scrolling, and I'm like, I. 464 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 3: Think I was just supposed to text a. 465 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: Friend and now I'm knee deep and an hour just 466 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: of my life. 467 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 3: Was just rated. It's just a habit muscle. Sure, stay tuned. 468 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 1: I'll be back in just a moment after this brief 469 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: message from our sponsors. 470 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 2: I think often we're not. 471 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: Thinking for ourselves anymore. We have people like projecting and 472 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: giving us advice or like, you know, you really inherit 473 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,959 Speaker 1: like other people's opinions of you, and we absorb it 474 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 1: so quickly because now there's so many ways to see 475 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: how people see you and how you receive that. And 476 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: I do think it's really important that we don't have 477 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: safe enough boundaries anymore to really think for ourself. 478 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 2: Like everyone now is like chat, GBT and it's it's. 479 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: Just like we're always looking for this outer layer of 480 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 1: acceptance and we don't trust ourselves anymore. 481 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 2: We don't go within. 482 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: And I love when you talk about meditation and journaling. 483 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 3: I just think we've. 484 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: Really got away with a lot of practices that cleanse 485 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: our soul, cleanse our mind, and truthfully, you're right. Like 486 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: I say this in sport too, everyone's good at the top. 487 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: The thing that separates you because ten percent is really athletic, 488 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: it's a gift, it's performative. It's your performance and your 489 00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: technical ability. 490 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 3: It will get you so far. 491 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: But you're the mental aspect, like it's everything, because if 492 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: you're not good, your performance isn't good. That means you're 493 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: not showing up for your team. You're not like it 494 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: just becomes a absolute nightmare. 495 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 3: I'll leave not often say because something you said it 496 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 3: reminded me of something you know. Yet a few days ago, 497 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 3: I had like a really intense day. I had three 498 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 3: auditions and I had like a bunch of priz and 499 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 3: I was like, ooh, this is a day. And after 500 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 3: it was done, I felt really good about I think 501 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 3: I really showed up and I'm proud of the work. 502 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 3: I did today, But it's not because I thought I 503 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 3: was a good actress at the auditions and I was 504 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:35,719 Speaker 3: talking to a friend about an actor. I'm like, if 505 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 3: I do an audition, ten percent of that audition is 506 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 3: me being prepared and me executing the lines and acting. 507 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 3: The reason I actually am good with this day is 508 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 3: because mentally this audition what it means to me, that's 509 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,719 Speaker 3: where the work is. That's where the work went into it. 510 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 3: It's the It's not tied to my worth. This is 511 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 3: not the make or break of me. I will not 512 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 3: view this as the make or break of me. I 513 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 3: will not let this dictate the rest of my day. 514 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 3: I will not let this impact how I treat the 515 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 3: other people in my life. This is not going to 516 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 3: be final. That ninety percent is what makes me show 517 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 3: up to that audition better than I could show up 518 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 3: if I didn't have that nine percent. So when you 519 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 3: walk into an audition and you're like, I have to 520 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 3: get this or I'm a piece of crap. If I 521 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 3: don't get this, I'm a piece of shit. I'm bad, 522 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 3: I'm not talented. No one's gonna like me. You're not 523 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 3: gonna show up the best version of yourself so all 524 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 3: that other stuff is what makes me a better actress. Actually, great, Chiney. 525 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 3: I love that to me, learning the lines into executing. 526 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: It's so so true, and it's so important to make 527 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 1: sure people who are listening know that because I think 528 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: we do really live in a culture that, especially Western culture, 529 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: is so cut through throat, and everyone's willing to just 530 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: shit on anyone at any given moment. Like there used 531 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: to be like a softer, like landing spot of how 532 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: you presented information to people, especially like as an athlete, 533 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: it was like the criticism was productive criticism. Now in 534 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: this land escape, it's like, let's shit and bury everyone, 535 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: cancel culture. 536 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 3: We hate like this. 537 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 2: I'm like, it's love to grow. 538 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 3: No one's to make the mistakes they are in this moment. 539 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 3: They can't evolve beyond this moment. 540 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, i mean, God, bless all these content creators, 541 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: because lately I'm like, I don't know if I want 542 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 1: to share anything because people are just ready to chomp 543 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 1: and eat and spit you out. And I'm like, it's 544 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: a cruel world out there, and I've got a little 545 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: sensitive heart a lot. 546 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 3: From Actually, here's the younger generation of women are really 547 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 3: inspiring to me actually because I, through an abundance of therapy, 548 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 3: have learned as much as I am outspoken, and I 549 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 3: like to stand it for myself. I am a people pleaser. 550 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 3: I've been raised to be a people pleaser. I'm unlearning 551 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 3: it now, but through a lot of my life it 552 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,239 Speaker 3: was like, let me not ruffle the feathers, let me 553 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 3: not disagree, like let me just do go out of 554 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 3: my way over extend always. There is two people I'm 555 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 3: gonna tell you, actually can't tell you three. There'll be three, 556 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 3: so tell it. Tell me every Imman Vallani, who plays 557 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 3: Miss Marvel, did an interview, came out and it rocked 558 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 3: my world. And we grew up in the same town, 559 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 3: were from the same place, so we have a lot 560 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 3: of similarities. It was an interview and the reporter was 561 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 3: being a little bit of a jerk and she said, 562 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 3: you know, the box office has been rough for the Marvels, Like, 563 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 3: what do you think about that? And Iman literally looked 564 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 3: at him and said, that's for Bob Eiger, that's not 565 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 3: for me. And I was like, you can do that, 566 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 3: you because she's just like I'm here to act. The 567 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 3: box office is not about me. That's not my responsibility. 568 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 3: Me never would never have thought like that. I'd been like, yeah, 569 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 3: it's my fault. I gotta do. 570 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 2: Better, totally take it off the chin. 571 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 3: Yeah it's me. Second, queen. I'm gonna give a shout 572 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 3: out to Jenna Ortega. There is a video that literally 573 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 3: made me emotional when I saw it online. It is 574 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 3: a video when they're promoting promoting Beetle Juice Beetle Juice, 575 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 3: where their Winona Ryder and Jenna or Tak are walking 576 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 3: towards press. Anda's wearing sunglasses and the press keeps yelling, 577 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 3: take off her glasses, take off your glasses, and you 578 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 3: can tell she doesn't want to. They keep all the 579 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 3: ad her take off her glasses, and she's about to 580 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 3: go take off her glasses and Jenna just looks at 581 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 3: her and you you just see your mouth that you 582 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 3: can't hear. It just goes, no, you don't have to, 583 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 3: and then she doesn't and there's no. She just said 584 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 3: it so calmly, like it was so so normal for 585 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 3: Jena to take and just go, you don't have to 586 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 3: do that. Me. I want to take the glasses, said 587 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 3: those glasses on fire. I would be like, what else 588 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 3: do you want to do? Tell me how can I 589 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 3: make you happy? Pressed? What do you want? You know 590 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 3: what I mean? Like Blue my mine and the third 591 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 3: que too. And there's not even a specific example. It's 592 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 3: just everything she does. Renee Wrap needs to never go 593 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 3: to media training. She needs to never get pr trained. 594 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 3: She and every interview is just like I'm gonna say 595 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 3: exactly what I want to say, and it might be 596 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 3: it might be problematic, and it might not be. This 597 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 3: is who I am, this is what you're gonna get, 598 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 3: and I just respect it so much and I'm so 599 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 3: envious of it because that's how I'm trying to be. 600 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 1: I agree, I say that, but then I float right 601 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 1: back into It's like Sophia always says this, like I'm 602 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: like a little cinnamon roll, but like I look the 603 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: way I look. 604 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 2: I have all this jewelry and all these tattoos. 605 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: By in the same way, I'm like, I want to 606 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: please everything and everyone, and I don't want to ruffle feathers. 607 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: I hate like anything that's like confrontational or contentional, Like 608 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: I just don't like it. 609 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 3: I've gotten a little better at confrontation, but I'm still 610 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 3: a people pleaser. I feel it all the time. If 611 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 3: I set a boundary of any type, my brain is losing. 612 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 3: I'm losing my mind. I'm like, how do you sept 613 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 3: this boundary? They're gona think your mean? They're gonnaink you're mean. 614 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 3: You need to be nice, you need to make them 615 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 3: like you. That's still going in there. But I think 616 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 3: what all three of these women have in common is 617 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 3: they're like, it's not on me to make you like me. No, 618 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 3: that's what I want to do, you know what I'm saying. 619 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 3: So I really learned something from these younger the younger girls, 620 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 3: that's been awesome. 621 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: It's it's so lovely that this younger generation. I don't 622 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: say this lightly, they have access to so much representation, 623 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: and especially because we're part of the queer community, and 624 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: it is so important, and it's so especially for safety, 625 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: for people feeling like their life is worth living. The 626 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: impact you've made on your community, for young people who 627 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: look like you is so beautiful and so impactful. Do 628 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: you carry that weight and that responsibility lightly when you 629 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: show up in this space and this new woman of 630 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: who you are and claiming your sexual identity and all 631 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: these things, do you ever feel the weight of what 632 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: you have to carry because of the way you look, 633 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: or are you gladly carrying that badge of honor knowing 634 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: when you were a young girl you didn't have that 635 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: and you didn't get to see people like you move 636 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: the way you do. 637 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a really great question, and I'm going to 638 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 3: try my very best. You gati a very honest answer, 639 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 3: which is I'm on from one to the other. So 640 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 3: I think when I first came out, and when I 641 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 3: first started making YouTube videos, I was carrying it with 642 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 3: a badge of honor. Like I know, there's not many 643 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 3: other people that look like me that are queer. I 644 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 3: know there's not many other things you can watch with 645 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 3: someone that looks like me. I'm carrying with the badge 646 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 3: of honor. I love my culture till this day. I 647 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 3: love my culture. And I used to carry I used 648 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,719 Speaker 3: to carry and carrying Late Night show. Great, I got 649 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 3: to do this, a short historic thing. I'm carrying with 650 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 3: the badge of honor. Yes, I'm the first. Yes, I 651 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 3: did it. Yes, Indian queer byself. Of all these yes, 652 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 3: it says yes. However, now I think you're right, we 653 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 3: are in a place where there is more diverse. I mean, 654 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 3: there's still a lot of work to be done. Don't 655 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 3: get me wrong, I'm happy that there's more instances of 656 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 3: diversity and even take away everything if I if I 657 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 3: just take away every other person's expectations and take away 658 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 3: the industry for myself, I have kind of grown tired 659 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 3: now of carrying that way. It's and it's exhausting, and 660 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 3: I've done it for a decade, and now when I 661 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 3: do things or say things, I don't want it to 662 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 3: be the South Asian woman, the queer one that says it. 663 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 3: It's just Lily. It's just Lily that's freeing it. And 664 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 3: so I'm kind of trying to unsubscribe from this idea 665 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 3: of taking on that burden because I'm during late night 666 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 3: and I've talked about this in therapy a lot. Which 667 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 3: was when those people came up to me and said 668 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 3: those things like a million people are counting on you, 669 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 3: and a billion Indians are counting on you, and all 670 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 3: the queers are counting on you. I was like, yep, cool, 671 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 3: totally makes sense. Now I need to figure out how 672 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 3: to make them all proud. Not even for a second 673 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 3: did I not take on that burden. I didn't even 674 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 3: know that was an option. I just was like, open 675 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 3: to your burden, place it on me. And now I'm 676 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 3: in my era of actually, no, I don't receive that. 677 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 3: I don't have to make a billion people proud. I 678 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 3: don't represent all billion Indians out there. I don't represent 679 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 3: all women. I am just me and I'm representing my 680 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 3: life experience. So I think it was necessary when I 681 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 3: first started to carry that burden, and I'm sure to 682 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 3: some degree I still will carry, but I'm trying to 683 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 3: actively get better at not that's not mine to care 684 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 3: anymore because I'm a human and that's too much for 685 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 3: one human to carry. 686 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think received and noted, and I think 687 00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: that you're humanizing what you have to care and the 688 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: volume you have to carry through the creative work you've 689 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: been doing for over a decade. And it's both and yes, 690 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: and and all of the things in between. This is 691 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: wide open, and I'm your host, Ashlyn Harris. Thanks for listening. 692 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 3: We'll be right back. 693 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: I asked this question to every person on the podcast. 694 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: You know, sports contexts wide open, wide open. But I 695 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: do feel that in our industry we are so much 696 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: more than what we do. Like even though at the 697 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: core of your start and you know your fame, you 698 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: or YouTuber, and it has opened so many beautiful doors 699 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: for you to live. This beautiful life also comes with 700 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: a lot of things people don't understand unless they've lived it. 701 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: But I always ask this, what moment in your life 702 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: has really split you wide open, that really has changed 703 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: the landscape of everything, that made you take a pause 704 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: and sit back and really zoom out and be like, 705 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: nothing will ever be the same after this. What was 706 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: that moment for you? 707 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 3: That's a really good question, and I think it's gonna 708 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 3: have My answer is going to relate to something you 709 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 3: just said. But you also might low key drag me 710 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 3: because I am gonna mention chat gibto space, say space, 711 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 3: Honny cool. So for a lot of my life, a 712 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 3: lot of my life, I'm thirty six, I would say 713 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 3: for them up until two years ago, for thirty four 714 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 3: years of my life. If you were to ask me 715 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 3: who I am to describe myself, it would be a 716 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 3: very specific way I would do it. Oh, you know, 717 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 3: I claim up on YouTube I'm an actress, this many followers. 718 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 3: It's how people other people also describe me. And the 719 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 3: top of every you know, we're so used to describing 720 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 3: ourselves through what we do, like our accolades, what we 721 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 3: do for work, what we can offer, what we can give. 722 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 3: That's how I've justcribed. I never knew a different way. 723 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 3: My therapist would take a shot. Every time I say therapist, 724 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,959 Speaker 3: everybody I reference my therapist a lot. I'm obsessed. There 725 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 3: you go saying. She tried to make me understand, she 726 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 3: said when she's like, you are not what you do, 727 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 3: And I fundamentally did not understand that. I like wasn't 728 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 3: even trying to stubborn, and I was like, what what 729 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 3: do you mean? 730 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: Then? 731 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 3: Who am I? She like, you are a whole, full 732 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 3: person that without all these things that you do. And 733 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 3: I left that therapy session being like the first time 734 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 3: mean my therapist disagreed because I don't know what the 735 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 3: hell she's talking about. I don't really Growing up, it 736 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 3: was like who I was was the person that got 737 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 3: good grades. That's how you got loved, Like you got 738 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 3: a good job, you did your chores like that. Who 739 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 3: am I outside of these things? And so then I 740 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 3: I do. I will say I do use chat GUPT 741 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 3: for certain things, and of all the things I've ever 742 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 3: used Chattopauty for I'm going to tell you one use 743 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 3: that has rocked my world, which I talked to Chattuoputine. 744 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 3: I was like, my therapist said, I'm not what I do, 745 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 3: and I think I need to fire her now because 746 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 3: she doesn't know you're talking about and chat Chipeta was like, no, 747 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 3: you're not what you do, and so I was like 748 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 3: really exploring this idea of like who am I Then, 749 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 3: so out of frustration, I said to chattchipet, if you 750 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:16,479 Speaker 3: think that I am someone without referencing all the things 751 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 3: I do, I want you to tell me who I 752 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 3: am and do not use a single accolade or a 753 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 3: single accomplishment. And then it did, Actually it did, and 754 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 3: that moment I sobbed, and it rocked my world because 755 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 3: it said, based on the conversations we've had, you're a 756 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 3: great friend. You had this with a friend and you 757 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 3: wanted to help them. You're a great dog mom, You're 758 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,760 Speaker 3: so dedicated to growth, you asked me for journal prompts 759 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 3: all the time. And it described me in this way 760 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 3: that I've never been described as before. That moment got 761 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 3: me wide open because fince that moment, I was what 762 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,359 Speaker 3: I've been sleeping on all of these facets of who 763 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 3: I am because I've been so fixated on the accomplishments. 764 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 3: But like, a really great accomplishment is also the fact 765 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 3: that you're a great friend, Lily, You're a great daughter. 766 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 3: You surprise people, you go above and beyond for them, 767 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 3: You make people feel safe, and you make them feel 768 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 3: comfortable opening up to you. Like, those are really great 769 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 3: accomplishments that you'll never get into work for you know, 770 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 3: no one will never introduce you like that when you 771 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 3: walk into a stage, but that really matters. And so 772 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 3: just learning why actually I'm in a different way has 773 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 3: been really really honestly terrifying and liberating and exciting at 774 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 3: the same time. 775 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: That's beautiful though, and I do think it's important, and 776 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: I think people need to think about that more often 777 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: because we do tie our like so much of our 778 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: self worth. And how many likes did this post get? Oh, 779 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 1: it's not hitting what it's like, it's all the wrong things, 780 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: and we have to get back to those roots of 781 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,839 Speaker 1: who we are outside of all this noise and all 782 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: this bullshit and so superficial, but like, at our core, 783 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: who are we as beans? And that is exactly it, because. 784 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 3: It Also, that's how you show up. Now, how many 785 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 3: people listening to this? I just want to just if 786 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 3: you're listening to this, just be real with me for 787 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 3: a second. In a relationship, when you love, your version 788 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 3: of loving is doing things for people. You're like, I 789 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 3: need to do this. I need to overextending to show 790 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 3: them what I can bring to the table. That is 791 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 3: a trauma response, Like it is a trauma response because 792 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,240 Speaker 3: we believe love has to be earned because we've been earning. 793 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 3: Let me blow your mind and tell you don't have 794 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 3: to earn love and care. Every human being deserves love 795 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 3: and care, but we've been conditioned to feel that we 796 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 3: need to earn it. When a new baby is born, 797 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 3: that baby has done nothing, but you love that baby, 798 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 3: right and you want to take care of that baby. 799 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 3: So when did you want to learn that? 800 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 1: This is why you're a New York Times bestseller? I 801 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 1: think I don't know, but you should be writing more. 802 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 3: Probably a nerd. I'm also obsessed with self growth a 803 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 3: nerd and being a student for life. So I'm really nerds. 804 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,959 Speaker 1: But it's beautiful and it's real, and it's just it's 805 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: like we don't talk about it enough, Like we sit 806 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 1: in an interview and people want to ask the dumbest 807 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: fucking questions that no one cares about, Like. 808 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 3: Ken, Yeah, I'm like, what's your trauma? Like I want 809 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 3: to get into some ship immediately all the time. 810 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with you. But like, on a plane, are 811 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 1: you that person? Because I need to know right now 812 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 1: when you set, Like if I'm sitting. 813 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 3: Next to you talk to someone on a plane. 814 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 1: Are you putting are you putting those headphones on? Like 815 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,320 Speaker 1: the Knight's put in your hood. 816 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,720 Speaker 3: Were sitting by my fire pit, the vibes are vibing, 817 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,399 Speaker 3: We're gonna get into some shit on a plane though 818 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:27,720 Speaker 3: I'm trying to sleep. I'm the headphones. 819 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, thank god, because that's where I that's the 820 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: only place I draw the line. 821 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 2: People always starting to talk to I'm like, headphones. 822 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 3: Uber settings, no conversation, those turn off. Those are my 823 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 3: turn off times I'm obsessed with you. 824 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:42,240 Speaker 2: Okay, let's pivot. 825 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: That's actually that's I thank you for that. I think 826 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 1: that's beautifully said, and I think more people need to 827 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: have real, open, honest we're all communication like that instead 828 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 1: of superficial bullshit that's doesn't go anywhere, and no one 829 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 1: really cares. 830 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 2: But I do want to. 831 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: Talk about your work because you are such a you're 832 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 1: creative lily, and you do a really fucking good. 833 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 2: Job at all the things. 834 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,840 Speaker 1: I mean, if anyone fall, I mean, if anyone everyone 835 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 1: follows you. You're always on a fucking plane, You're always working. 836 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: But I'm like, girl, do you come up for air? 837 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: You need to be coming up for air? 838 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 3: I do, okay, gouds, I just don't always show it 839 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,399 Speaker 3: if I'm not all right. 840 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: Well, the last few minutes, I do want to talk 841 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:30,359 Speaker 1: about this project that's coming out, and uh it's it's 842 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 1: a film called Doing It, And I would love for 843 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: you to tell us a little bit about the movie 844 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: and what's the story behind it, and yeah, give the 845 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: audience and the viewers something to be excited to tune 846 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 1: into in September totally. 847 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 3: So if you're listening to this, maybe you're from a 848 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 3: different culture that I am. Maybe there you'll find similarities. 849 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 3: Though sex is very taboo in South Asian culture, it's 850 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 3: happening a lot of cultures, almost every culture, I would say, 851 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 3: especially for a woman. So I was like, why don't 852 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 3: I just make the raunchiest sex comedy with the South 853 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 3: Asian lens, because you know, I like to go against 854 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 3: the grain and I like to stir some stuff up, 855 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,959 Speaker 3: and so doing it is a raunchy sex comedy. I 856 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 3: erode it, produced it and starring it, and wow, it 857 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 3: is a What it's about is a thirty year old 858 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 3: virgin finds herself teaching sex at high school. And so 859 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 3: it's a commentary on sex education and how it's still 860 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 3: so whack and a lot of schools don't support and 861 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 3: a lot of parents don't want it. It's a commentary 862 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 3: on how shame is so used against women and how 863 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 3: so many women, even older women, don't know about pleasure, 864 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 3: don't know about their bodies. We're never taught about their bodies. 865 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 3: We're never taught they can enjoy sex. We're never taught 866 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 3: about different types of sex and sex. And we're not 867 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 3: talking about taught about queerness. Everyone looks it feels the 868 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 3: same way, and so it's really just me kind of 869 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 3: reclaiming my sexual journey. I had a very sexual journey. 870 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 3: I think if I had this movie growing up, I 871 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 3: would have been on a lot better shape. I would 872 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 3: have loved myself more. I would have known my body 873 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 3: more and so it's just a very real and I 874 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 3: will also say it's very female forward, which is very real. 875 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 3: I love that Love and the Virgin is not the 876 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 3: butt of the joke. She is not. It is not 877 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 3: that movie. It is about a woman on a journey 878 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,359 Speaker 3: to unlearned shame reclaim her sexual life. And I just 879 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 3: feel like, listen, it's don't get me wrong, I'm terrified 880 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 3: my parents have not seen it. I'm still an Indian girl. This. 881 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 3: At the end of the day, my aunties and uncles 882 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 3: are gonna be pissed like I'd be doing some ash and. 883 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 2: Oh, I can't wait to watch this. I can't wait 884 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 2: to watch because I'm. 885 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 3: Also actually and I'm strained in the movie. Did you 886 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:35,359 Speaker 3: know this? 887 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 2: I'm sorry plot twist, No, I did not know this. 888 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 3: Avoid being like, oh yeah, so it's yeah, it's an adventure. 889 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 3: It's an adventure, sure, but it comes up to Pember 890 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 3: nineteenth and I'm just gonna keep it real because I 891 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:50,839 Speaker 3: feel like you're really real and I feel like your 892 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,919 Speaker 3: listeners are also gonna be really real. So I'm gonna 893 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 3: say this how it needs to be said. This movie 894 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,720 Speaker 3: was hard as hell to make. It was an independent 895 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 3: independent film. It's seven years. The second my face was 896 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 3: attached to this film, every executive in Hollywood called it niche. 897 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 3: It's too niche now because it has me in it. 898 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,839 Speaker 3: So I'm going to say that any support that people 899 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 3: show this film, it will not be wasted. This is 900 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 3: not a big budget Hollywood movie. This is a small 901 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,800 Speaker 3: independent movie that I have given my sanity, blood, sweat 902 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,360 Speaker 3: and tears too. So if you have any capacity to 903 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 3: support on September nineteenth, please do because it's it's been 904 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 3: a lab. 905 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 1: And everyone go out and where can everyone get this 906 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 1: in the nine theaters? 907 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 3: Oh? 908 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 2: Okay, well, okay, girls, I see you. Everyone go check 909 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:39,479 Speaker 2: it out. 910 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 1: And uh, you know what you're You are exactly what 911 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 1: I thought you would be, you know. I I yeah, 912 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 1: but like I've heard so many endearing, sweet things about you, 913 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 1: and truthfully, and I don't like I I I like 914 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 1: wait to meet people and really sit with people and 915 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,399 Speaker 1: hear people for who they are. You know, and you're 916 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 1: a beautiful person. 917 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 2: I appreciate you taking the time. 918 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 3: Thank you, and also thank you for like a dope 919 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,840 Speaker 3: conversation that was of course it does it feels like 920 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 3: just people connecting. 921 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 1: I appreciate that, and that's what it's about. We're here 922 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 1: to bridge the gap between you know, the sport, the entertainment, 923 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: the you know, be an actual human Imagine that. Wow, 924 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,839 Speaker 1: we're actually human beings who have real feelings and being 925 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 1: able to share that through storytelling is so beautiful. So Lily, 926 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,240 Speaker 1: thank you so much for taking the time today lifting girls. 927 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,360 Speaker 1: Cheers to the next time I'm in LA with you, 928 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 1: because I think we're just like right around the corner 929 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 1: from each other. 930 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,240 Speaker 3: So let's hang out and listen. 931 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 1: For those of you who don't know, Lily throws the 932 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 1: most banana party of the fucking decade, even though it's yearly. 933 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 1: Am I getting an invite? 934 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 3: That's the question? Absolutely? Okay, all right, cheers to that. 935 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 3: I'm going to see when it rock an Indian outfit 936 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,840 Speaker 3: because you'd actually like amazing and one I'm saying, like 937 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,919 Speaker 3: I wear the Dude ones or Therodyns one sometimes. Yeah, 938 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 3: we need to talk about this. 939 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 2: Because can you dress me? 940 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,280 Speaker 3: Can you dress me? Yes? Okay? 941 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: Well, my fortieth birthday is October nineteenth, Okay, so it 942 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 1: feels like a very it's it feels like a very 943 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 1: big month that we're going to be celebrating noted so 944 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 1: I can't wait, So everyone please go check out Lily's 945 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 1: new movie coming out Doing It and thank you so 946 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 1: much for being here. Thanks everyone for tuning in on 947 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 1: another episode of Wide Open with Ashland Harris and we'll 948 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 1: see you next week. Wide Open with Ashland Harris is 949 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 1: an iHeart women's sports production. You can find us on 950 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 951 00:44:55,400 --> 00:45:01,400 Speaker 1: Our producers are Carmen Borca Coreo, Emily Marinov, and Lucy Jones. 952 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 1: Production assistants from Malia Aguidello. Our executive producers are Jesse Katz, 953 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 1: Jenny Kaplan and Emily Rudder. Our editors are Jenny Kaplan 954 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 1: and Emily Rudder and I'm your host, Ashlyn Harris