1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travison buck Sexton 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: Show podcast. Welcome back in our number two Clay Travis 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: bucks Sexton Show. Our thanks to Nolan Peterson in Ukraine 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: for I think doing as good of a job as 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: I've heard of anyone in media of explaining what might 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: be going on in Ukraine and why if you are 7 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: American state side not otherwise paying very much attention to Ukraine, 8 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: you maybe should be paying attention. You're just starting off 9 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: with us. You miss the first hour, you can download 10 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: the podcast. Make sure you don't miss a single moment 11 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: of the show. We are scheduled to be joined by 12 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: Montana Senator Steve Danes. I believe in the third hour 13 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: of the program at two thirty Eastern we will talk 14 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: about everything going on right now in the Senate. There 15 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: are a lot of moving parts there, including the Build 16 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: Back Better agenda and a pretty significant vote that is 17 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: scheduled to take place tonight where the United States Senate 18 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: is going to repudiate the private vaccine mandate that Joe 19 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: Biden is attempting to implement under OSHA. That's going to 20 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: be a really big deal in terms of the Court's 21 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: analysis of Joe Biden's decision, because it's going to demonstrate, 22 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,559 Speaker 1: beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the legislative branch 23 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: disagrees with Joe Biden when it comes to his vaccine mandate, 24 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: and using the precedent that existed for the eviction moratorium 25 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: which Joe Biden attempted to do under the auspices of 26 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: the CDC. If you will remember, the Court sent a 27 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: pretty significant message there. They said that if Joe Biden 28 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: were going to implement that CDC eviction moratorium, there would 29 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: need to be legislative support in order to ground foundationally 30 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: the president's power there, and in fact there was not. 31 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: This is a direct repudiation of Joe Biden's vaccine mandate, 32 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: which we believe for private businesses, beyond a shadow of 33 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: a doubt, is unconstitutional. So another story out there that 34 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: I believe deserves a lot of attention because yesterday Buck 35 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: and I talked about the eightieth anniversary of Pearl Harbor 36 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,839 Speaker 1: and the fact that from a historical perspective, I don't 37 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: believe in Buck agreed with me that we spend enough 38 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: time talking about the heroism of our country in World 39 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: War Two and what we did to combat the Nazis 40 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,119 Speaker 1: and Imperial Japan, and why if we had lost that war, 41 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,119 Speaker 1: everything would have been different in the United States, representing 42 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: the foundation of freedom. When you look at what has 43 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: gone on in this country with the attack on history 44 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: in general, I'm not sure that there's a better story 45 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: right now that epitomizes what's going on than Charlottesville, Virginia. Charlottesville, 46 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: Virginia has a Roberty Lee statue that had been there 47 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: for roughly one hundred years, supporting the iconic graphy of 48 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: the Confederacy, but also Robert E. Lee and his historical 49 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: relevance for the state of Virginia, given the fact that 50 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 1: Virginia seceded and that Robert E. Lee, a Virginia native, 51 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: elected to stay with his home state, as virtually everyone 52 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: did in the United States during the Civil War. In 53 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: other words, well, everybody wants to make the Civil War 54 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: now a massive battle over slavery. The reality was you 55 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: fought for your state almost exclusively. If you were a 56 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: native of Alabama, you ended up fighting for the Confederacy. 57 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: If you were a native of Minnesota, you ended up 58 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: fighting for the North. The Union was entirely determined by 59 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: whether or not you were a citizen of one state 60 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: or the other. So Buck, for a lot of these stories, 61 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: what do they say when they tear down the statues? 62 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: They say, Oh, we're going to put these in a 63 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: museum to allow them to have a more proper context, 64 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: so people can see them outside of the public's venues, 65 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: public parks, public streets, where they might have otherwise been located, 66 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: except they've removed the artifice. Here in this particular situation 67 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: in Charlottesville, they are going to take the Roberty Lee statue. 68 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: They are going to give it to an African American museum. 69 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: They are going to melt down the statue and use 70 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: it for whatever remains of that statue, for some sort 71 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: of art to be made that is symbolic of social justice. Now, 72 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: this represents what I think is really at state. Buck. 73 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: This isn't about taking down statues, It's about destroying And 74 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: I want to give an example here. I live in Franklin, Tennessee. Franklin, Tennessee, 75 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: for those of you or who are historians or who 76 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: are Civil war nerds like I am, is a battlefield 77 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: eighteen sixty four North and South fought in Franklin, Tennessee. 78 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: As part of one of the final battles of the 79 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: Civil War, and there is a statue in the town 80 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: square of a Confederate soldier, which is not uncommon in 81 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 1: many different Southern jurisdictions. Instead of taking down that statue, 82 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: they have decided to add an additional statue that just 83 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: went up in downtown Franklin, rightwood near where I live, 84 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: that has a United States soldier who is black that 85 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: fought for the Union. He now has a statue right 86 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: by the courthouse on that town square. My position from 87 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: a historical perspective is we should be adding context, adding 88 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: more understanding of that era, as opposed to trying to 89 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: tear down and attack the history. So what do you think, Buck, 90 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: You're a New Yorker, You probably haven't spent that much 91 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: time thinking about the Civil War in the grand scheme 92 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: of things. But we just saw in your hometown that 93 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: Thomas Jefferson statue removed, Which is one of the things 94 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: that Trump was one hundred percent right about, which is 95 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: it doesn't stop with Confederate statues soldiers, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, 96 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: they were slaveholders, Abraham Lincoln even getting torn down. This 97 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: is about attacking the foundation of American history, not about 98 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: trying to just focus on one particular subset of our past. 99 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: It always starts with the Confederate monuments, and then it 100 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: expands beyond there. We've seen it, and it happened right 101 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: after the BLM movement came out in June of twenty twenty, 102 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: and it was what about these Confederate statues? And then 103 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: they play this game the media of anyone who defends 104 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: the placement of a Confederate statue must have some connection mentally, 105 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: you know, emotionally to the tiki torch losers, you know 106 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: who showed up for that march in Charlottesville, and they 107 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: played this game of well, you must somehow be a 108 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: sympathizer of theirs. No, that's not true. But they also say, 109 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: as you pointed out, we're just gonna We're just gonna 110 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: move it. We're just gonna move it to a museum. 111 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: It's about the placement of it. It's about sello ration 112 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: by the state of it. And to that we always say, well, 113 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: hold on a second, are you really going to do that? 114 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,679 Speaker 1: Because the people that are trying to make this case 115 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: make the case generally by graffiti ing and swinging sledgehammers, 116 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: and they're not using this eloquence of let's just change 117 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: the place. That's what the media does to create a 118 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: more a more persuasive narrative for the general public's consumption. Meanwhile, 119 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: the maniacs out on the street are trying to tear 120 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: down statues and destroy them. And there's actual value in 121 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: a lot of these things, their works of art. You 122 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: mentioned the Jefferson statue here in New York. There's also 123 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: the Teddy Roosevelt statue that had been in front of 124 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: the Museum Natural History gone. Now it's being loaned I 125 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: think to somewhere in Montana, some institute. Okay, yeah, I'm 126 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: sure a lot of you know, a lot of people. 127 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: The Museum of Natural History of New York gets a 128 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: lot of foot traffic. The whoever is a Montana I 129 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think it's going to be quite 130 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: as prominently on display. But they're melting down the Lee statue. 131 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: They're melting it down there actually officially choosing to destroy this. 132 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: I mean, this is iconoclasm. This is destroying something and 133 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: choosing to do so for some kind of a moral purpose. 134 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: And it's a a reminder of how much incrementalism. We 135 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: see they just push it a little bit, and they 136 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: push it a little bit more, and they pushed a 137 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: little bit more. And it might seem somewhat reactionary when 138 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: they start saying, oh, let's pull down this statue, let's 139 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: pull down that statue. To just always take the position 140 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: of no, we don't tear them down. We take the 141 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: approach you talk about, which is, let's let's create more 142 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: let's create more context. Let's create a plaque that actually 143 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: explains some additional aspects of the history, or let's put 144 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: up a you know, an additional statue nearby of you know. Look, 145 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: there should be more Frederick Douglas statues, right, I mean, 146 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: there's plenty. There should be more public art that celebrates 147 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 1: different heroes of our past. That's great, that's fine. I mean, 148 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: I'm just picking Frederick A. Douglas as many many others. 149 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: But the point of her being we give, we cave 150 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: on an issue like this, and they always turn around 151 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: and say, what's next. The Columbus Statue, for heaven's sake, Yes, 152 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 1: in Columbus Circle here in New York, mere blocks from 153 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: where I'm doing this radio show. Go walk there in 154 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: five minutes Clay. They've had to have a fae lenx 155 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: of NYPD officers deployed at different times when there's a 156 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: lib spasm of anger over our past. And then there 157 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 1: are even statues. I think I got this one. I 158 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: think was in New Mexico there was a statue of 159 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: Juanda and Niote. How many people right now listening to 160 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: this don't I don't want to hear any type thing 161 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 1: going out there. Know who Wanda Ante is. I'm not 162 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: even sure I prodount that the guy's name correctly. Someone 163 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: was shot at one of the fights over the Wanda 164 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: and he was a conquistador. One of those statues. I mean, 165 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: they've they've defaced Gandhi statues, and you always want to ask, 166 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: what are you replacing this with? I mean, at what 167 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: point is it clear that the people that are the 168 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: most vociferous about these things would turn around and say, 169 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: you got to tear that Reagan statue down. Insufficiently dedicated 170 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: to the rights of transgender individuals to compete in college athletics, 171 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: Reagan was insufficient on that issue. I know it sounds crazy, 172 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: but all this stuff sounds crazy until it's not well. 173 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: And it's also incredibly selective. Martin Luther King has a 174 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: monument in Washington, DC. Martin Luther King said that homosexuality 175 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: was a mental illness and that you needed to be 176 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: treated for being gay. He wrote that that was not 177 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: an uncommon opinion in nineteen fifties America, certainly not an 178 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: uncommon opinion for nineteen fifties America if you were a minister, 179 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 1: if you're a priest, if you're a reverend. And so 180 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: the idea selectively to decide who meets the standards of 181 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: the modern era. Look, and this is one of the 182 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: great things about history. If you study it, we're all 183 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: going to be found lacking in some way. We all 184 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: think we're even the most social justice conscious person in 185 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, in twenty one twenty Fuck, they're gonna 186 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: have believe things that people in twenty one twenty considered 187 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 1: to be absolutely outlandishly unacceptable. I don't know what those 188 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: things are, but that's what history suggest is that as 189 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: we evolve, some things that are commonplace in your life 190 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:12,239 Speaker 1: become seen as wrongs later on. And so this idea, 191 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 1: this is to me, a perfect metaphor, because this is 192 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: what they want. They want to tear down they want 193 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: to destroy and they want to eviscerate anything that ever 194 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 1: would have suggested here. And this is also significant because 195 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: this is the illusion buck Joe Biden used as his 196 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: argument for why he was running for president. He took 197 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: the President out of context, didn't even listen to what 198 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: he actually said, and said the President had called neo 199 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: Nazis very fine people, when he didn't. He said there 200 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: are many, and he's right, very fine people who don't 201 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: agree with tearing down statues of Confederate soul. One thing 202 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: I'd like to point out to not only my conservative 203 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: but also the liberal friends that I have, because it 204 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: makes them very angry, which is always fun when we 205 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: talk about politics, which you should generally avoid with liberals 206 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: because they just melt out. Uh. One thing like to 207 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: say is if the Republicans are so bad, if Trump 208 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: specifically is so bad, why they have to lie about 209 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: him so much? Yeah? Why do they have to make things? 210 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: Why they have to lie about Charlottesville, what he said 211 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: about Charlottesville, Why do they have to lie about Russia collusion? Like, 212 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: if Trump is so bad, why are they always lying 213 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: about And the great question they hate that why can't 214 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: we just like the things that you and I don't 215 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: like about Joe Biden are observable, obvious, clear, real decisions 216 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: and policies and things. I don't just sit here making 217 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: up stories about how Joe Biden's actually a lizard space alien. 218 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 1: But but is he all right? We'll come back. 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Rules and regulations are immortal, they don't die, 257 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: and there's there's not really an effective garbage collection system 258 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: for moving rules and regulations. Those hardens the arteries of civilization. 259 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: Where you're able to do less and less over time, 260 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: hardens the arteries of civilization. Welcome back the Clay and 261 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: Buck show. That was Elon Musk, the found of Tesla. 262 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: I think the richest man in the world, or at 263 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: least in the top two or three, right, I mean 264 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: it depends on the day. But a guy who actually 265 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: sounds like he's doing an updated, extemporaneous Friedrich Hyak Road 266 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: to Serfdom, which, by the way, if you've never read, essential, 267 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: a little bit dense, but essential reading for being a conservative, 268 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: in my opinion, understanding conservative philosophy. The Road to servedom 269 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: is fantastic. But Elon Musk is like, yeah, pretty much. Oh, 270 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: and Clay, it gets a little bit better here he 271 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: is on because if he's saying, look, regulations, he's right, 272 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: there are mortal this day forever, yes, and adding more 273 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: and more every year. You're just increasing what we could 274 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: call the regulatory burden. Then there's also what we do 275 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: from the spending side of things in this country. And 276 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: here he is basically trashing Biden's plan to save everything 277 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: by spending money. Honestly, it might be better if the 278 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: bill doesn't the pass because we've spent so much money. 279 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: You know, the federal budget depths that is insane. You know, 280 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: it's like three trillion dollars federal expenditures that are seven 281 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: trillion federal revenue four trillion. That's a three trillion dollars difference. 282 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: If this is a company, it would be a three 283 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: trillion dollars loss. So I don't know if we should 284 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: be adding to that loss. That seems pretty crazy. Sometimes, 285 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: got a kid. You can't just spend three or trillion 286 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: dollars more than your own every year and don't expect 287 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: something bad to happen. I think you know this is 288 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: not good. Honestly, I would just canvas whole bill. Don't 289 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: pass it. That's my recommendation. Don't pass the bill. Clay, 290 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: I gotta get a tesla. Well, he's in such an 291 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: interesting spot because Elon Musk, and I'm fascinated by him, 292 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: is one of the smartest people in the world. I 293 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: don't think sometimes you speak hyperbolically. I think that Elon 294 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: Musk is legitimately one of the smartest people in the world. 295 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: I mean, think about what he's done. He essentially said 296 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: I could be better at sending rockets to space than NASA, 297 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: and then proved that that was true. He said, all 298 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: these rockets, scientists and everybody else that NASA has been 299 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: employing for fifty years, seventy years, whatever the heck it is, 300 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: he said, I can found a new company that is 301 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: better at sending rockets to space than NASA. And he 302 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: did it. And then he also said, Hey, the entire 303 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: concept of an internal combustion engine being built predicated on 304 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: oil doesn't make sense oil and gas, and so I'm 305 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: gonna go build an electric automobile. And oh, by the way, 306 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: he's also trying solar energy. 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Go subscribe to the 338 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: podcast has always helped us set a new record in December, 339 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: bit of news out there, Canada, England, Australia have all 340 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: joined the United States in a diplomatic boycott of China 341 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: over human rights violations in the Jingjang reason region with 342 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: the weaker population genocide as the United States government has 343 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: called it. And we reached out by the way to 344 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: Enis Cantor Freedom, who has been wearing tennis shoes condemning 345 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: China on the basketball court. And Enis Cantor told The 346 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 1: New York Post that he was told by NBA officials, hey, 347 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: can you please take those tennis shoes off, those sneakers off. 348 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: They are going to offend China. And the NBA doesn't 349 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: want to offend China because they make hundreds of millions 350 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 1: of dollars, and it's interesting buck things have turned in 351 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: a hurry as it pertains to China, and it seems 352 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: like the Peng Shui incident with the WTA, the Women's 353 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: Tennis Association, for those of you who missed this story, 354 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: this has turned into a monster pivot point I believe 355 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: in US China relations. Ping Shui was a women's tennis 356 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: player who accused a prominent Communist Party official of sexual assault, 357 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: and then China effectively disappeared her. Well in the past, 358 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: when China has stood up and slapped around sports leagues 359 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: and companies, most of the sports leagues in the companies 360 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 1: the NBA, in particular, point of fact, with what happened 361 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: with Darryl Moray when he supported Hong Kong freedom, have 362 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: tended to shut up and dribble. They've genuflected at the 363 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: altar of chairman Z. They've done whatever where they need 364 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,479 Speaker 1: to to try to avoid offending China. And that's not 365 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: just the NBA. It's movie companies, it's Disney, it's Apple, 366 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: it's all of these different multinationals that have major connections 367 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: with China. But what's interesting is when the WTA stood 368 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: up and said we're pulling all of our events out 369 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: of China. It seems to have provided a backbone to others, 370 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 1: including many people who have been otherwise looking askance or 371 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: looking away from the protests of guys like Colin Kaepernick 372 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: and Lebron James, Greg Popovich, Steve Kerr Well, Bob Costas, 373 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,239 Speaker 1: who was one of the most legendary voices in the 374 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: world of sports and also a quite intelligent guy, decided 375 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: that he was finally ready to tee off on Colin 376 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: Kaepernick and on Lebron James about why they're so silent 377 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: with everything going on in China. Here's Bob Costas, let's 378 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: play cut eleven. The NBA is up to its neck 379 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: in China. China is a huge sports market. Basketball is 380 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: especially popular there, but they will put up with not 381 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 1: even the slightest criticism. By the way, a lot of 382 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: Nike's goods that benefit the likes of Colin Kaepernick and 383 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: Lebron James made in China and those outspoken individuals, and 384 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: in many cases, I think millions of Americans would agree 385 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: with their positions on domestic issues, but they are conspicuously 386 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,959 Speaker 1: mum when it comes to China, and no matter what 387 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: the issues, are here, and they are serious issues. In 388 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: terms of dimension, they pale alongside what's going on. I think. 389 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: So one of the things about the whole NBA China 390 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 1: and really just sports and big corporations and China, right, 391 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you can do this at different levels, different tiers, 392 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: is that it's one of the few times where you 393 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:59,479 Speaker 1: can see do people in prominent positions, very wealthy, very 394 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: influential individuals where they're talking about the CEO of Disney 395 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: or Lebron James or you know, the NBA League commissioner 396 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: as it's still um, what's the guy's name, Adam Silver? Silver, Yeah, 397 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 1: one of those guys. When it comes to taking a 398 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: stand based on principle, and you lose money or you 399 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,959 Speaker 1: lose access, then people can actually think your your motives 400 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: are altruistic, Your motives are pure. When you're taking a 401 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 1: knee or you're you know, standing against police, or you're 402 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: pulling the hoodie up or whatever, you just get a 403 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: claim from basically all of your fan base. The only 404 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: people that criticize it are people like you and now 405 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: people like me as we do the show together, you know, 406 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: but those are the people that actually say, hold on 407 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: a second, this isn't brave. And by the way, no, no, 408 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: is it not brave. In the case of China, it's 409 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: very clear that they're what they're doing is quite bad. 410 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: Some of what the NBA players, NFL players, different companies 411 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: proclaim or condemn is wrong. So you know, so there's 412 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 1: that whole dynamic of it as well. So I think 413 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,479 Speaker 1: it is interesting you're seeing the first real pushback on 414 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: China from important figures and US corporations will excuse me, 415 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: will it stay though or not? Will this actually be 416 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 1: a tipping point or is this just a blip? I 417 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 1: think is a question that remains to be seen. And 418 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: then there's also just in the background of all this 419 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: China stuff, people here, Oh, there's a Chinese company that's 420 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: in trouble right now? Is that really our problem? Well, 421 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: Evergrand I have to remember all the major Chinese corporations 422 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: are state, state sponsored or supported in some way, state 423 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: supported entities, they'll often call them. Evergrand is a real 424 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: estate development company that's missed, that's missed some ten million, 425 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: you tens of millions of dollars of payments on debts 426 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 1: that it has right now. Evergrand Folks has three hundred 427 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 1: billion dollars of obligations, and some people watching this are 428 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: saying this whole thing could just collapse in China. So 429 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 1: there is a moment here just, you know, to bring 430 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: this all together where China economic glee is feeling a 431 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: little fragile right now, and you have the Olympics pushback, 432 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: and you have people like Enis Canter speaking out from 433 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 1: US corporations. You know, it's not the Biden administration that's 434 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: causing problems for them, but the private sector is actually 435 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: starting to give a little bit of the rough stuff 436 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: to China. Yeah, and what's gone on is it's not 437 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: brave to embrace woke capitalism because woke capitalism makes you 438 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: more money. When the NBA puts slogans on their jerseys, 439 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: and when Nike and Apple and Disney all issue their 440 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter support statements, that doesn't actually cost them money. 441 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: But when push comes to shove and they have real 442 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 1: money at stake, it's amazing how quiet they all get. 443 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: And they deserve to be called out on this in 444 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: terms of their hypocrisy and buck The big question I 445 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: always think is interesting, at what point do you choose 446 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: money over honesty, money over authenticity, money over being a 447 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: good citizen of the globe. And let me give you 448 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: an example here. Lebron James likes to argue that he's 449 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: Muhammed Ali. Right, He's not. I wrote about this in 450 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: my most recent book. He's not remotely close the modern 451 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: day Muhammed Ali. Buck. Do you know what he would say. 452 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: He would stand up confront communist dictators, even if it 453 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 1: meant that he made less money from his shoes, and 454 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:36,479 Speaker 1: he would say, every human being deserves basic human rights. 455 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: If China doesn't support basic human rights, then I'm not 456 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: going to do business with him. You know, Lebron could 457 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: easily do this, Buck, He's rich enough he could say, 458 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: stop producing any of my products in China, bring it 459 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: to the United States Instead. I'm arguing for kids to 460 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: be paying two hundred dollars for sneakers. How about you 461 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: start to employ a lot of poor kids in inner 462 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: city neighborhoods you're from, Akron. Imagine the impact if Lebron 463 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: James said, Nike, I want a factory built an inner 464 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: city Akron. I want it to employ young minority workers 465 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: who are otherwise underskilled and under employed, and I want 466 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: my shoes produced here. Nike would have to do it. 467 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: That's what Muhammad Ali would do. He would stand up 468 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: to China. Lebron is not willing to do that. If 469 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: we've learned anything since twenty twenty, it said, there's nothing 470 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: quite as important as a powerful immune system. You know 471 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: what your immune system's job is, It's to detect, deflect, 472 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: and destroy bacteria you come in contact with. Well, Fortunately, 473 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: doctor Black has created Texas Superfood. 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If you've 492 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: been living with your eyes open for the last almost 493 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: two years now, you might think, ah, really, but Fauci thinks. 494 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: So we will get into some of that and just 495 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: a few minutes. I also will say, Clay, you know, 496 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: so you're not sore. They're the areas where we, from 497 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: a pop culture standpoint, have some of the same loves. 498 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: I could sit here and quote Young Guns with Amelia Estem, 499 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: Blue Diamond Phillips, Charlie Sheen, some great, some great stuff 500 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: in there, Dermott mulrooney, if we recall Dermott Molrooney's oh 501 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: I don't even remember he was on there. Oh, I 502 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: could go all day. So I love young guys. I 503 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: love a lot of those eighties nineties action movies. I 504 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: do like sci fi. But we already went we know 505 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: you're not a Dungeons and dragons, guy, But I will 506 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: tell you I was homesick over the weekend. Thank you 507 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: for doing a fantastic job. Obviously, Friday at the Helm solo, 508 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: I was homesick over the weekend and I just needed 509 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: something to do. And I had read the Dune novel 510 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: by Frank Herbert, a long time ago, great sci fi novel. 511 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: The movie is one of the first sort of Hollywood 512 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: studio pictures I've seen, I want to say, in years 513 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: that was actually really good. So I have have two things 514 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: for you. One of you seen Dune in two well, 515 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: actually I should probably do these in reverse order. One 516 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: is sci fi and acceptable genre you or you're going 517 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: to upset all of our Star Wars fans in the audience. 518 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: And two is done something you've seen. I love the 519 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: Star Wars movies, and one of the great things about 520 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: being a parent was being able to introduce my boys 521 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: to all those nineteen eighty movies at nineteen eighties movies, 522 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: including the Star Wars canon. So yes, I've seen all those. 523 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: I love the Matrix movies for instance. Those aren't necessarily 524 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: sci fi, although they're trending action sci fi. It's kind 525 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: of both. Yeah, and I like a lot of the 526 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: nineties and two thousand sci fi movies. I have not 527 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: seen Dune. I was not someone who read sci fi 528 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: when I was a kid growing up. I loved do 529 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: you remember Robotech? Do you remember Robotech at all? Starblazers? 530 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: Do you know any of those stories? No? Okay, so 531 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,959 Speaker 1: it's like a niche, but it was kind of a 532 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: popular niche. In fact, I'm curious how popular it is 533 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: if you are listening to us right now and you 534 00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: watched either Robotech or Starblazers. These were Japana may but 535 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: they were sci fi cartoons that were set in space. Uh. 536 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: So I was obsessed with those when I was a kid, 537 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: read all the books. They were book versions. I think 538 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: they originally came out of Japan, but then they also 539 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: became wildly popular in America. I'm curious, I thought wildly 540 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: popular popular. I'm curious how many of our listeners are 541 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: familiar at all with those I loved those Japanimation early 542 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: kind of japanimation, uh set sci fi in space. I 543 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: want to get to calls here in a second. I 544 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: just wanted to say the reason I was thinking about 545 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: sci fi as well, other than Dune, which I can 546 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: tell anybody who's read the book the movie version of 547 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: it is fantastic. I mean, it's it's an amazing and 548 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: very close to the to the actual Frank Herbert masterpiece. 549 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,239 Speaker 1: It is a fictional master a masterpiece of fiction. Um. 550 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: But you know, for me, sci Fi I probably had 551 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: a bigger impact on my early developing a love of 552 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: reading than anyone else. Was actually Michael Crichton. The Jurassic 553 00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: I went. I went through four Congo, Jurassic Park, Bear, 554 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: Rising Sun, and Drama, all of them. I read all those, 555 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: all of them, and that was the first time I 556 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: remember as a kid being like, I would rather I 557 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: would rather be two hundred pages into Congo than watching 558 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: you know, G I. Joe or whatever was a little. 559 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: Jurassic Park was such a I mean maybe of all 560 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: the book ideas out there, such a brilliant idea for 561 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: a pull. Well, what's fascinating is that Westworld is also 562 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: a Michael Crichton project. As a show back in the day, 563 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: you can see Westworld is the creation through sci Fi 564 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: of an experience for people. And then you know there's 565 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: this like DSX, Mokena and and then the machines take 566 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: over and it's like that, except with dinosaurs. So West World. 567 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: If you see the comparisons, they're both Creton projects. And 568 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: obviously once you introduce dinosaurs to things, everything is cooler. Alan, 569 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: It's it's just the rules, right, I mean, you know, hey, 570 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: we're making a sports movie. Let's throw some dinosaurs in there. 571 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: Now we've got velociraptors playing volleyball. Alan in Maine, what's 572 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: going on? Hey, thank thank you take my call. You 573 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: guys have hit hit the nail right on the head. 574 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: When you talk with these sports stars and how they're 575 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: just they have a big they have so much of 576 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: a big voice. They need to come out and use 577 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: it because it just reminds me of Georgia and Major 578 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: League Baseball. You know, you had almost every team come 579 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: out in Boycott, Georgia because Georgia wanted to teams and 580 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: voting Mars and it was just made me sick because 581 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: it was gonna it was gonna catch on to the NBA, 582 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: it was gonna catch on to the NFL, and they 583 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: didn't have them. They didn't have any problem at all 584 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: coming out in Boycott in Georgia. But geez, they seem 585 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: to be dragging the heels a lot coming out to 586 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: boycott China, and by the way, boycotting it's a good point, Alan, 587 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: because boycotting Georgia so to speak, for the MLB game 588 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: it all it does is hurt people living in the 589 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: Atlanta area trying to make a living selling you know, 590 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: hot dogs and T shirts and bars nearby and restaurants, 591 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: so you're you're punishing exactly the wrong people. The positive 592 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: is the Braves went on and won the World Series, 593 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: so instead of hosting one All Star game, they got 594 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: to host three World Series games. Now you can also say, well, Clay, 595 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: they should have hosted the All Star Game and the 596 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: three World Series games. A buck this is These are 597 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: arguments that I have been making for years, and when 598 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:13,240 Speaker 1: I see them suddenly occurring on CNN, i'm I feel 599 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: like we've reached a tipping point where you ever make 600 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,439 Speaker 1: an argument for something for so long that you start 601 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: to feel like you're just kind of yelling in the wilderness. 602 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: But at CNN is doing at Clay see, I'm very 603 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: I'm I see CNN's moves three moves ahead. They're desperate 604 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: for some moral high ground right now and desperate to 605 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: make it seem like they actually serve some journalistic function 606 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,399 Speaker 1: other than talking about the insurrection for five seconds. So yes, 607 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 1: they're on board. But this is like a classic like 608 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: Jake Tapper over there will do this Democrat activists for 609 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: six months and then we'll spend like a week on 610 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: one topic where he's actually being a journalist, and then 611 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: for the next six months goes back to be a 612 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: Democrat activist who says, hey, what about that thing I 613 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: did that time that actually was somewhat ethical. I know 614 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: his games backwards and forwards. That's what CNN is doing 615 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: right now because everyone realizes a rash heap Bryce in Sacramento, California. 616 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: People are fired up bout this China and NBA stuff. 617 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: What's up? Bryce? Oh yeah, I totally agree, guys. You know, 618 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,879 Speaker 1: and for me watching basketball, it's always refreshing to see 619 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: Lebron and the Lakers on to perform expectations this year. 620 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: I think that's just perfect carma for them. But in 621 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: his cancer freedom, I think he should be the first 622 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: of many and is the first of many players in 623 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 1: front office officials in the NBA that will slowly come 624 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: out of China and force Commissioner Adam Silver's hand into 625 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: disengaging from China, which they should because I mean, look 626 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,720 Speaker 1: what they're doing in Jingzhong with wagers, there's no doubt. 627 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 1: And the WTA, to your point, Bryce, the WTA put 628 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: the NBA on notice because they walked away from tons 629 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 1: of money and said, hey, we're going to stand up 630 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: for what's right. We're gonna take principle over profit. And 631 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: the NBA looks really bad in comparison with the Women's 632 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: Tennis Association. Also, be very clear, I mean what the 633 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: stakes were if you're running a professional sports league and 634 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: one of your stars can just be made to disappear 635 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: in some foreign country. If you're not going to make 636 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: noise over that, what are you going to make noise over? Right? 637 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: And how about Ted Cruz last week said the WTA 638 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: has bigger balls than the NBA, which got some play, 639 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: But that was a great line. It's also accurate, right, 640 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: was standing up bouncing around the internet all day long 641 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: and on the Clay and Buck Show of course, team 642 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: how many shots for the libs to leave you alone? 643 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: I'm not even talking about forever, I mean the next 644 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 1: few months. What are we really looking at? What if 645 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: I told you that there's already a case he made 646 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 1: that you could be required by the LIBS to get 647 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: a total of six. We'll talk about it. Wow, you're 648 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:52,280 Speaker 1: listening to Clay Travis, send Buck Sexton, fund the EIB network, 649 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: Rouchy COVID here wherever you want, quick, and then the 650 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: Senator and then we're done.