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Speaker 1: We're back on Radio Row, this time talking more about

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Speaker 1: the AFC Southend, diving in on the Houston Texans with

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Speaker 1: Casey Valier. I'm Matt Taylor at the combine. It's time

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Speaker 1: now to visit with our guy, our friend Mark vand

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Speaker 1: Amir the voice of the Houston Texans dating back to

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Speaker 1: two thousand and two is correct. An institution that is correct.

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Speaker 1: And the Texans just beat the Colts for only the

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Speaker 1: tenth time in franchise history. Can you believe that it's

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Speaker 1: only the tenth victory ever? We come in here for

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Speaker 1: all of them. It was week eighteen, which still sounds

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Speaker 1: funny to say, doesn't it. Yeah, And it was a

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Speaker 1: weird day because look, I love beating the Colts the

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Speaker 1: rare times it happens. I mean I savor every single one.

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Speaker 1: I remember twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen and the wins

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Speaker 1: over Indy at Indy. But the thing is that one, two,

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Speaker 1: fourth and twenty or fourth and long conversions on the

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Speaker 1: final drive for the Texans and then they go for

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Speaker 1: two and make it. And it was a bittersweet feeling,

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Speaker 1: to say the least, because you lost a number one

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Speaker 1: pick with that VIC three and it was just a

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Speaker 1: strange deal. The fans were upset, but I wasn't upset.

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Speaker 1: But I thought, I love beating the Colts, but this

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Speaker 1: one is weird because I also would have liked that

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Speaker 1: number one pick. It was a strange deal. Did you

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Speaker 1: realize that, I mean, you had good presence then to

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Speaker 1: realize how weird that day was and what it meant

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Speaker 1: for the future potentially of the Texans sitting in the

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Speaker 1: top two. Yeah, and down the stretch of the season,

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Speaker 1: the Texans played some really close games. They weren't winning them,

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Speaker 1: but they were playing some really close games. Now, they

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Speaker 1: had a victory against the Tennessee Titans up there Christmas.

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Speaker 1: That was nice cold day and they beat them. And

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Speaker 1: a very close game with the Chiefs went into overtime,

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Speaker 1: actually stopped Patrick Mahomes. He got the ball first, and

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Speaker 1: I thought, we should you know, they tease you guys

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Speaker 1: about hanging a banner or whatever, we should hang a

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Speaker 1: banner that says stopped Mahomes at overtime. My gosh. And

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Speaker 1: very close game with the Cowboys could have would have

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Speaker 1: should have won that at Dallas, and I think the

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Speaker 1: fans would have really celebrated those victories but there you

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Speaker 1: were the last game of the year, and like here

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Speaker 1: it is and the crosshairs number one pick in the draft,

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Speaker 1: and they quote blow it by winning, and it's just

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Speaker 1: it's just one of those strange dynamics of sports. Now,

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Speaker 1: when you talk about blowing it, you're sending it too

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Speaker 1: from your perspective. How big of a gap is that

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Speaker 1: from being that number one and number two from what

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Speaker 1: you're hearing from the outside. Chantner, Well, I honestly don't

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Speaker 1: think it's that big a gap. I really don't. Now,

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Speaker 1: we won't know this for two or three years, right

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Speaker 1: until the Chicago Bears pick first or if they trade it.

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Speaker 1: Whoever picks first picks their player and how that player does.

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Speaker 1: And obviously, if you're gonna move up, you would think

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Speaker 1: that they're gonna take Bryce Young. But that's just us talking, right,

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Speaker 1: you know, No NFL person is really going to give

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Speaker 1: you their true feelings on the subject. And I believe

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Speaker 1: that the draft is always fascinating because there's the media

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Speaker 1: and the draft pundit talk, and then there's what's really

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Speaker 1: And no one can look at a player like Bryce

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Speaker 1: Young and not say, well, look, he's awesome, right, but

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Speaker 1: there are some concerns here about size and that kind

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Speaker 1: of thing, and about anybody you're drafting in college. Trevor

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Speaker 1: Lawrence just turned into what you'd hope he would turn

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Speaker 1: into down the stretch of his second year. And that's

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Speaker 1: got to last because you never know. Jared Goffey, Jared

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Speaker 1: then they traded him because they didn't like him, and

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Speaker 1: now he's playing well again. This is a crazy league.

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Speaker 1: You guys know it better than anybody. Crazy things happened,

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Speaker 1: So I don't think there's that big a gap. I

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Speaker 1: think you're going to end up hopefully with a great

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Speaker 1: player no matter what you do it too, all right,

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Speaker 1: Damiko Ryans is now the head coach, third head coach

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Speaker 1: in three years, two parter. What is the level of

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Speaker 1: have to tell you, all right, twenty twenty four wins,

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Speaker 1: Slitsions put it that way. Former players taken shots at

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Speaker 1: the team over these past few years. Right, you have

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Speaker 1: four years of the franchise. So you look at this

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Speaker 1: can turn around. Now when you hired Damiko, Ryan's this

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Speaker 1: It's Demiko. He was one of the most beloved players

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Speaker 1: Texans player leader ever. And I would have said this

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Speaker 1: whatever ever, And that goes with quarterbacks too. Demiko was

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Speaker 1: the guy from the time they drafted him. Total leader.

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Speaker 1: That's why would he get his press conference. So many

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Speaker 1: former players came back. It just united everybody again, fan base,

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Speaker 1: right now. Everybody's fired up. Now you gotta go win games,

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Speaker 1: you gotta draft players, etc. But right now where we

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Speaker 1: around him. But Ryan's is a defensive coach. What did

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Speaker 1: such a big decision to make after that higher I

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Speaker 1: think with Demiko it doesn't matter. I think he's the

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Speaker 1: way you launched the Kubiak era in a way, and

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Speaker 1: he and Nick Cassario to come up with the right

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Speaker 1: and move it into the future. They've had a lot

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Speaker 1: would say when you look at the guys the Texans

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Speaker 1: where's the biggest improvement you want to see from a

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Speaker 1: roster scheme? I think there are a variety of things

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Speaker 1: to say you played well last year, you had a

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Speaker 1: You know, you still only won three games. And it's

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Speaker 1: a fourth quarter league. You know, this league is all about.

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Speaker 1: And look, the NBA is way more of a fourth

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Speaker 1: quarter league, maybe, but the NFL, if you're in seven

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Speaker 1: every game. And we can not brag. But the Texans

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Speaker 1: I always say it's about third down conversions. If you're behind,

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Speaker 1: They still need help at receiver. I'm not sure what

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Speaker 1: I could go on and on about their needs. I

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Speaker 1: gonna look to shore up right there, whether it's you know,

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Speaker 1: quarterback one of them. Davis Mills is the only quarterback

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Speaker 1: have two first round picks. Well, but for the Bears, right,

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Speaker 1: they have to think about if we dropped a four,

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Speaker 1: are we still gonna get the player we want, right,

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Speaker 1: a year we get this guy in town Mark Vandamir

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Speaker 1: too of you know, Frank Frangie's over there play by

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