00:00:08 Speaker 1: And I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guess you're own presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how did you dare to surbey me? 00:00:48 Speaker 2: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineger. Oh, we're in the backyard. We're just out of Hurricane Hillary. The house did not flood. I'm cautiously optimistic that it won't flood again in the future, but you know, you never know. A tree did fall over. That felt more just like a dramatic gesture on the trees part, because the storm was nearly nothing. So that's why I'm a little still worried that the house could flood in the future. So just continue to keep me in your prayers. Can we get into the podcast? I would love to get into the podcast. I just adore today's guest. It's Tarran. 00:01:27 Speaker 3: Kill him ruddy for having me in your home. 00:01:31 Speaker 2: I'm happy to have you here. 00:01:33 Speaker 3: This is already very exciting. I've listened to several episodes, Folly, but we will be testing it's the real gift. And then I showed up. You are such a lovely host, so gracious you granted me access to your home. You explain the whole structure of the show. What you didn't explain is that you would turn away from me. That's the only thing that caught me off guard. If you did a full ninety degree pivot away from me, and I was like, he hates that I'm here. 00:02:07 Speaker 2: This is a constant battle on the podcast, okay, because we're not in a traditional studio, so we're kind of trapped looking at each other. 00:02:13 Speaker 3: Without hyperbole, the best atmosphere of any podcast of everything. 00:02:18 Speaker 2: Oh this makes me so happy. But I can't just sit here in intro of the podcast while staring directly. 00:02:24 Speaker 3: I'm asking for like eye contact there, but you literally turned away like a disappointed father. 00:02:31 Speaker 2: Well let's try this, Okay, Okay, okay, welcome to I said no gifts to feel I'm looking away. 00:02:36 Speaker 3: It does feel better. I've got square shoulders. There's something about having having your carriage towards me that felt better. It did, and any I think probably the best. Okay, Well, there you go, it's your show. But I do think like there's also a version where you know you're you're looking around, you're roaming, you kind of check in to let me know, because there's always that unspoken thing of like people who listen to podcasts know that the person sitting there during the for the most part, for the most. 00:03:02 Speaker 2: Part, some people I'm jealous of they do a pre recorded intro, but that feels artificial to me. Yes, how do you get into the conversation there? 00:03:11 Speaker 3: I agreed, And there's always a little more judgment on the intro because it's like, oh, yeah, so I talked to such and such right there, I got to talk to and you already they've the decision has been made for you. 00:03:25 Speaker 2: Right unless you're going to those little things are gonna be like and this time it didn't work, or I am not having a back on the podcast. Hey it Yeah, there's gonna be an honesty, some level of honesty there, or just don't do it. 00:03:35 Speaker 3: Spoiler alerts it's a bad one. 00:03:38 Speaker 2: You're gonna hate the next hour. It's gonna be painful. No, I'm glad you pointed that out. You know, we just have to have some level of transparency with the way I'm behaving on my own podcast. People need to know. 00:03:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it was outside is a new move chair pivot, giant new mood like, I didn't know they did that in some places in the world. 00:04:00 Speaker 2: I'm gonna start turning fully away, by the way, like this, get it. 00:04:04 Speaker 3: You should get a swivel chair and then spin then do a James Bond Villain reveal as you doug your. 00:04:11 Speaker 2: Cat in my lap. Yeah no, I'm yeah, I'm glad that you pointed that out, but we have you know, we're gonna put it aside for now. 00:04:19 Speaker 3: Done. 00:04:20 Speaker 2: Have you had lunch? 00:04:21 Speaker 3: Not yet? Breakfast? 00:04:23 Speaker 2: Oh? What time? 00:04:25 Speaker 3: Ten forty five? 00:04:26 Speaker 2: Oh? 00:04:27 Speaker 3: Today is my oldest child's first day of high school. 00:04:30 Speaker 2: Ever, that's so excited. It was graduation. 00:04:34 Speaker 3: Thank you very much. I will pass it along to her. I always like to make the first breakfast, and Wavos rancheros was requested. Okay, made it for all three women in my life. I have a wife and two daughters. And the youngest one did not imbibe, not into the wavos ranchair much more a fan of the chocolate chip pancakes, which she'll get Thursday, so I wasn't gonna. I did a good job. I have a picture I can give to you later please, And I did a good job. 00:05:06 Speaker 2: So I ate that I'll be the judge of that. Okay, do you want to see how these give us? 00:05:11 Speaker 3: That's what this is it? 00:05:13 Speaker 2: Yeah? 00:05:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, gladly, And. 00:05:14 Speaker 2: Then the listener could be the third judge eventually. That's that's smart, because I do think I have a pretty good idea of what a wave us rancho should look like. 00:05:22 Speaker 3: Huh uh huh yeah, And I will gently remind you this is for the youngest one. So it is sauce light. 00:05:30 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, Okay, that's good to know. 00:05:32 Speaker 3: Maybe I'm not on. 00:05:33 Speaker 2: Young people in sauce. Let me see, am I not on their air dropping here? 00:05:37 Speaker 3: Let's go contact only, that's what's happening. Ok I gotta go to everyone. 00:05:41 Speaker 2: Okay, go to everyone, bottom and go for. 00:05:43 Speaker 3: Everyone, but only for ten minutes. 00:05:45 Speaker 2: You're gonna forget ten minutes to give you nasty photos. 00:05:48 Speaker 3: Let's reattempt this. 00:05:50 Speaker 2: Am I there? 00:05:52 Speaker 3: Are you there? God? 00:05:54 Speaker 2: Let's see here the listener, it's me odors this I know and we will leave. Oh, contacts only? 00:06:02 Speaker 3: Do you like you were contacts only too? 00:06:04 Speaker 2: Because they this is new. This is everyone for ten minutes is a new thing to make. 00:06:07 Speaker 3: The same same same Okay. Interesting, I think I'm sending it to the right one. 00:06:12 Speaker 2: Oh, there we go. 00:06:12 Speaker 3: You got an acceptance. Yeah, you're down. Only by the way, as someone who loves a pivot in their show, I could have easily turned the screen towards you. It's our own business. 00:06:24 Speaker 2: I appreciate that. 00:06:26 Speaker 3: Okay, you probably would be horrified how greasy my screen is. 00:06:29 Speaker 2: I'm looking at this and this is an extremely sauce light. Yes, young people don't like a sauce, no children, no flavor. Why don't they like a sauce. 00:06:36 Speaker 3: Butter for the first ten years it's just butter, just sheer butter. 00:06:41 Speaker 2: Dry. Yeah, okay, but I will say the egg looks perfectly cooked, thank you kindly. And it's got some cheese on it, and it's on top of a beautiful corn tortilla fried myself. You fried it yourself, indeed. Okay, then that's an a plus, thank you. What's happening under is that beans. 00:06:56 Speaker 3: And gotten you got and then and then a little sort of like cabbage oniony coal slough. 00:07:01 Speaker 2: I love a cabbage slough. 00:07:02 Speaker 3: Me too. It's a cabbage slow to hide in some kind of leafy vegetables, black beans, cabbage, egg sour cream. 00:07:12 Speaker 2: Cheese and the sauce. Did you make that at home? 00:07:16 Speaker 3: No, that's that's out of a jar. Okay, but it's probably a good sauce. It was okay, Okay, so now I'm going to I've listened to enough episodes. It was a Gelson's purchase. 00:07:26 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, So it was fifty nine dollars. 00:07:30 Speaker 3: Could have got it at the gas station. Yep. That to me, And uh, it's a great point. It's a very astute point. Nelson's is just overpriced ground floor right. 00:07:40 Speaker 2: I don't understand. I'll never be able to wrap my head around how their business operates. Yes, because I can see and you know, you know what I'm going to say, like, what is it Archer Farms or whatever? No, that's Target brand, Bristol Farms. Yes, it's all pretty luxurious stuff. So you're like, this feels kind of for a reason. 00:07:58 Speaker 3: I was curious about Pavilallions. You're your position on Pavilion. 00:08:01 Speaker 2: Pavilions to me is bizarre because Pavilions, Vaughn's, Ralph's, Albertsons are all essentially the same store. Right pricing, I think Pavilions is the most expensive, yes, but also the most pleasant experience. 00:08:17 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, we're on the same page. It's like the design of it alone is worth a little uptick in price. 00:08:23 Speaker 2: Right wood floors, the lighting is nice. 00:08:28 Speaker 3: It's the lighting is a big part of it. 00:08:31 Speaker 2: And I'll say the Alberson's, I think, is almost the exact same pricing, and that place can be a real hellhole. 00:08:36 Speaker 3: I can't remember the last time I was in Alberton. 00:08:38 Speaker 2: This is coming from a previous Alberson's employee. 00:08:40 Speaker 3: I was born and raised Stater Brothers, so it's all a come up to me. 00:08:44 Speaker 2: Stater Brothers for me, I just learned, probably in the last six months that that wasn't like a hunting supply store. For some reason that the name always to me sounded like you would buy like fishing gear or something. Stater Brothers. 00:08:56 Speaker 3: Oh that's what you thought it was. Start that way. Yeah, I don't know where it. It's a San Berdandino thing for sure, and maybe spreads out a little bit, but I always like the commercial is one of those ones just stuck in my brain. It's like in the heart lane Stater Brothers. 00:09:15 Speaker 2: It's such real, like a hunting store or something. 00:09:18 Speaker 3: One hundred percent it's not. It's just it's it's sub. 00:09:21 Speaker 2: Vns, sub vanns probably vons. Can you know it? Really it's all over the map, but when you get it to a rough fonds it's. 00:09:29 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, this is not I think it's just like first available tile. They can it can be sort of that soundproof, like like like ceiling with holes in it, brightest fluorescent light. They're like, why why shade the bulbs? 00:09:46 Speaker 2: It like used to be a haunted house, it's now a grocery store, and then we'll eventually be a haunted house exactly. 00:09:52 Speaker 3: That's funny you say hunted house because our stater brothers in Big Bear Lake had like the the sort of top design had like a little window in it watch out from Yeah. Yeah, so haunted house is on the money. 00:10:05 Speaker 2: A manager just looking down at the parking lot like clock ticking. No, I need to go on to say her brothers, but they're inaccessible to. 00:10:14 Speaker 3: You have to go at least an hour east of here, right. 00:10:17 Speaker 2: Worth a vacation, Worth the trip to treat myself to a little West Cofina. Okay, so your oldest is now in high school, had a questionable time of morning. 00:10:29 Speaker 3: My return and I'll be honest, I was emotionally raw. So there was some decompression that opened. She got it's her. She now takes the bus. It's her first bus ever. She got dropped off at seven thirty. 00:10:41 Speaker 2: Oh. 00:10:41 Speaker 3: Okay, so she was going no, no, no no. I came home. I listened to this used to be my playground, my Madonna. Wept in every room, looked through pictures of her on the first day kindergarten. That part is very true. And then and then was like, I need to feed my feelings. 00:11:00 Speaker 2: Okay, that makes sense. Seven thirty eight am Star time is crazy to me. I mean that's really yeah, that's how my high school was. But that seems how are high schools operating pre business hours? That doesn't make any sense to me. It should be a nine to five. 00:11:15 Speaker 3: That's a great observation. 00:11:16 Speaker 2: Yeah, waking up at like six thirty in the morning to go to school, right, it feels like it continues the long shadow of Farmers. 00:11:25 Speaker 3: Who's the country that does it better? Isn't it? Like Denmark is always ranked schools public school and I do feel that they have a unconventional time or it's like come from eleven to two and then Wally learn if you want and then really learn out in the world. 00:11:43 Speaker 2: That makes sense to me. 00:11:44 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's exactly what it is. 00:11:47 Speaker 2: Is they're leading away. 00:11:49 Speaker 3: That's why they're Denmark the way and won't let people become citizens there. I think that's it's really hard, Oh that have to become a Danish citizen. 00:11:58 Speaker 2: Rough, I guess it's a nice yeah, yeah, yeah, I wonder what it takes to get. 00:12:02 Speaker 3: And we had hamlet were good. 00:12:06 Speaker 2: How outside of crying in your home and your children starting to leave you? 00:12:12 Speaker 3: Yes? Good coming coming back from summer break, you're extremely tan. Yeah. I was just an Idaho for a bachelor party. That was very fun. Yeah, some good travel. I did you know? We've been striking since May, so I would say like the first six weeks of my summer were almost entirely on the line, kind of walking, walking in circles. And then we went up to Canada where we have like a vacation home, my wife and I and and that's where she's from. So we were there for about a month, which was really lovely. That sounds it was really nice. It was really nice. 00:12:47 Speaker 2: And in Idaho were you fishing? What was going on there? 00:12:49 Speaker 3: Idaho was mostly a golf trip for the core. I'm not a golfer, but he was on a beautiful lake too, so lake activities I do love. And it was is somewhat bougie resort and they had a huge inflatable obstacle course for the children. 00:13:05 Speaker 2: This sounds incredible. 00:13:06 Speaker 3: It's this forty one year old took our crazy advantage of. 00:13:11 Speaker 2: Just all of the kids giving you the side high. 00:13:13 Speaker 3: My best time was about I did the full length of what is probably a fifty yard course two and a half minutes. Impressive me a while, but that's without falling. That's the one without falling. 00:13:26 Speaker 2: That sounds good to me. Two and a half minutes to get anyway, I was. 00:13:29 Speaker 3: The first one out the morning Saturday morning, was the first one out in the water, and I was like, I'm gonna take advantage, and I do it immediately to twenty one year old's Dutch show. Okay, that looks cool man, Yeah, we'll do it less than half my time. 00:13:43 Speaker 2: It should be kids or people heading into middle aged. No one else should get to. 00:13:46 Speaker 3: Have to be ironic or earnest. Yes, it can't be. 00:13:50 Speaker 2: I'm in the shape of the best shape of my life, and I'm gonna show off to everybody. 00:13:54 Speaker 3: It can't be like an Olympic trial. It either has to be like, oh, be careful or oh be careful, please please please be careful. 00:14:02 Speaker 2: That sounds very so. Was it kind of what is it? An American Ninja Warrior? 00:14:07 Speaker 3: Yeah? It felt a little yeah, closer to wipe out, but yeah. 00:14:10 Speaker 2: Okay, what's the difference between the two of those. 00:14:12 Speaker 3: I think American Ninja Warrior sharper corners. Okay, sharper corners, more upper body strength required. Wipeout is like be aware of your peripheral vision because of big oversized boxing glove is going to push you more traps. It's more so like I would jump onto a platform and it wouldn't be inflated all the way and I'd collapse. 00:14:33 Speaker 2: Oh okay, Oh the shore would howl? Is it one person at a time while everyone just kind of while I. 00:14:41 Speaker 3: Was out there? I think I alien alienated enough people that they made sure to keep a safe distance. 00:14:47 Speaker 2: That pressure would crush me. I would need to think everyone was looking away to perform my very best. 00:14:53 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I the experience was more important to me than the judgment. 00:14:59 Speaker 2: Okay, well, we lead the lives different ways. I do think I would be good at one of these things. I've got to find one of them, get on one of them, or get on one of these shows. I wonder how you apply to one of these slipping the wide type. 00:15:10 Speaker 3: Of be out he slipping slide. I mean they do well. They have like rock climbing centers, right, and they have trampoline centers. There's like a house center and van Eyes that was a big go to for kids' birthday parties for a while. 00:15:22 Speaker 2: Those of me seem dangerous, not only physically, but. 00:15:27 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think that's true. 00:15:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I had. I think my uncle may have like scratched himself on one of those things and got seriously infected. He's decades No, he was hospitalized. Whatever the hell you do in one of those. 00:15:44 Speaker 3: I wonder if like lake water makes it that much cleaner. It's just an illusion. 00:15:49 Speaker 2: Lake water is filthy, it's horrible. 00:15:51 Speaker 3: Rat try I'm on the surface of it at all corners. 00:15:55 Speaker 2: It's just a big sand water. Yeah, you don't want to trust that. 00:15:59 Speaker 3: I don't, but I'm doing okay, no, no, no, on a sore knee. And we did paintball too, so I've got you did get a scrape, I got some paintball and there. Yeah, but a fun weekend. 00:16:09 Speaker 2: That sounds fantastic to me, absolutely wonderful. Did you get go out on a boat? 00:16:13 Speaker 3: Yes? 00:16:14 Speaker 2: Did you water? 00:16:15 Speaker 3: No, no towing? Okay, cruise in sunset, cruise jumped in the water, right, really nice. No, no, no towing. And we were going to do that and then and then air quality became an issue because the world is any smoke the water, fire in the forest. Perfect favor that I changed the last I changed the last word. 00:16:35 Speaker 2: We use it now now it's parody. It's now legally parody. I'm always in a lake. There's a small part of me that's afraid of a like monster. 00:16:45 Speaker 3: Okay, I know I have many close friends that have a similar fear. 00:16:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a you know, logically there's not a like monster in there, but. 00:16:53 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and probably scientifically. 00:16:56 Speaker 2: I don't know, Okay, I think the jury is still out. But there's always a chance there's just a big beast in a hole under the water that's just waiting to fly out at you. 00:17:05 Speaker 3: And you don't think that's possible. Of the Earth's crust as well, have you never seen tremors. 00:17:10 Speaker 2: I've been on the Earth's crust long enough. 00:17:12 Speaker 3: To know to know. Okay, so it's about the hours you put in, right, that's your Malcolm Gladwell theory. 00:17:18 Speaker 2: I'm not an expert on lakes. Here. 00:17:20 Speaker 3: If you put in ten thousand hours on any any surface, you know there's no giant, right. 00:17:26 Speaker 2: I'm an Earth genius lake novice, so I continue to be afraid of them. We went to this as a kid at lake in Idaho I think in Idaho called Big Bear Lake, and it was the Bear Lake monster. 00:17:36 Speaker 3: Oh fun, which that's cool. An aquatic bear. I haven't seen that before. 00:17:41 Speaker 2: No, not an aquatic bear. The lake was. 00:17:43 Speaker 3: Called Big Bear. 00:17:44 Speaker 2: But the monster is very Confusingly, the monster was lock nest of an amphibian or something reptile. But you get out into the middle of a lake and you're surrounded by nothing but water, there's the fear that something's just going to swallow you up. 00:18:00 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, people, many close people in my life don't like going in bodies of water where they can't see the bottom. 00:18:06 Speaker 1: Oh. 00:18:07 Speaker 2: Interesting, Well that makes sense. 00:18:09 Speaker 3: I guess. I guess. I don't know. 00:18:12 Speaker 2: I have no fear. 00:18:14 Speaker 3: I don't and never have and I grew up in southern California and we're in in the beach community for the first seven years, and then a mountain community for the next nine, and then back to the beach. So all forms of unseeable water floors and it's never even you know, like Jaws. Yeah, that's scary, but it just it just does not seem realistic. 00:18:35 Speaker 2: Right, Well, then what does scare you now? 00:18:39 Speaker 3: Anything happening to my children? I mean, that's my fe I got real. There's still comedy in the Okay comedy podcast comedy unfortunately, what does. 00:18:53 Speaker 2: Let's not bring loved ones into the equation? 00:18:56 Speaker 3: God, God it, let's not get heavy. God, what does like like a sudden but like jumps jumps jumps. You just don't like to be unsettled, don't. I don't. Don't take me by surprise. 00:19:06 Speaker 2: Right right? Yeah, that's largely my boyfriend. When we were living in New York, we had like kind of long curtains in our place and I would hide behind them and scare him, and eventually he had to ask me to stop in an earnest way where I was like, oh, this actually is affecting you. Yeah, it's not just a fun surprise of someone flying out from a curtain. 00:19:23 Speaker 3: It's I horror. I understand both sides. 00:19:27 Speaker 2: That's very fun. 00:19:28 Speaker 3: I agree with your boyfriend so strongly of like, this doesn't feel good, like it doesn't like I, for example, I would be curious to ask you like I hate throwing up? 00:19:39 Speaker 2: Oh, I hate controversial opinion. 00:19:41 Speaker 3: I refuse to do it. Sorry. Yeah, I know all the people who love to do but but I will fight to the point of death to hold down anything that yes when I shouldn't right, because the like so out of control of your own body sensation. I hate, I hate, And that will play in to our conversation later. 00:20:03 Speaker 2: Interesting, Okay, you brought me a bag of. 00:20:06 Speaker 3: Throw up, fake your first throw up, but to your point, argue your side of said prank. It's so fun to watch, delightful, it's so hilarious. It's so we're so fragile and dumb and unaware everyone. 00:20:23 Speaker 2: It feels like a shock to everybody. It's a little zap. We feel so alive in that moment. 00:20:27 Speaker 3: Yes to it, And it is, you know, in speaking comedy, like it's a great flip, it's a great switch. Oh yeah, it's you were walking in with groceries and now you look like a buffood. 00:20:38 Speaker 2: The kitchen floor is a mess, eggs everywhere. 00:20:41 Speaker 3: Your capers are all over the floor. 00:20:43 Speaker 2: You're screaming at your partner. You don't talk for days. Well, I mean talking about surprises then, and I mean you're obviously eager to talk about something. 00:20:54 Speaker 3: Well, I brought you. I I heard you didn't want to gift. 00:21:00 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, you're really just going. 00:21:02 Speaker 3: I wasn't raised that way. 00:21:04 Speaker 2: The podcast is called I said no gifts. 00:21:06 Speaker 3: I don't read headlines. You're a body an article. I love the art only for the articles I've said of every magazine in my life. Ever. 00:21:17 Speaker 2: Sorry, I don't read head time. 00:21:18 Speaker 3: I don't read headlines. I want to see how it's formatted. I'll maybe go to a thesis statement. But that wasn't quite covered. The no gifts part wasn't quite covered. I feel like what I read is the thesis statement of your email was like, it'd be great to see you, It'd be great to catch up post single parents. 00:21:34 Speaker 2: You love a nice, healthy paragraph. Okay, I love it. 00:21:38 Speaker 3: Four to five sentences to give me the problem, pay it off by the end of it. 00:21:44 Speaker 2: Wow, Wow that I like to hear that Yeah, in today's day and age, in twenty twenty three, we need more paragraph readers. 00:21:51 Speaker 3: Some more literary reader. 00:21:52 Speaker 2: Right, maybe I could forgive you this time. Okay, Okay, you brought this kind of striped bag. 00:21:57 Speaker 3: Yep. 00:21:58 Speaker 2: It has a number one finger on it, like with a giant foam finger. 00:22:01 Speaker 3: Yep. 00:22:02 Speaker 2: And it has an apology, sorry to disobey. Cheers Terence. So that's nice yep? Ye? Should I open it here on the podcast? 00:22:09 Speaker 3: Honestly, if you would do me the honor, I think I think there's some good stories that will come. There could be it could make for a great day. 00:22:19 Speaker 2: Well, it's always up to you. A great day is always up to you. Good attitudes are made. That doesn't make that sounds like someone put that in a book. It doesn't mean anything. 00:22:30 Speaker 3: Good days are all chance. 00:22:54 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to reach in. 00:22:56 Speaker 3: Okay, here we go. 00:22:58 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm feeling the top of I believe a bottle. Yes, oh my god, yeah, this is a bottle of whiskey. 00:23:05 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, correct of George. 00:23:07 Speaker 2: Dickll tennessee sour mash whiskey. 00:23:09 Speaker 3: For my money, the best kind of like low shelf whiskey you can get, really, yes, is this. 00:23:15 Speaker 2: Where do you get this at? 00:23:16 Speaker 3: It's a Bevmo staple. Okay, it is a like price wise it competitor to Jack Daniels. And I think for like maybe the two more dollars you spend on a Dickle sour mash number twelve, which my favorite of theirs, you get ten times the flavor. 00:23:33 Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah, did you just stumble upon it? 00:23:35 Speaker 3: Or I did? I did? I So there's a deeper story background into me. I didn't drink alcohol until I was about thirty years old. 00:23:44 Speaker 2: Okay, you're talking to a similar soul. 00:23:47 Speaker 3: Late Bloomer. 00:23:47 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:23:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, And part of that has to do with the body being out of control of your body, out of your facilities. I didn't like that. I also didn't like the taste tooth. Guy, love love a sweet You. 00:23:58 Speaker 2: Don't like a blast of alcohol? 00:24:00 Speaker 3: Just care acid down my esophagus. I do know. 00:24:04 Speaker 2: Of course, you showed up drunk. 00:24:07 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, is gonna be free babies, momo fuku. 00:24:18 Speaker 2: Okay, sure, New York familiar, very familiar. 00:24:20 Speaker 3: Win went there for a dinner. My sort of like like entry into the world of booze was always like a Jack and Coke. It was sweet and not and the and the the real reason that I took to alcohol is because I found a functional purpose for it. I got very sick working on SNLU and Nike Will was always my best friend. Like would knock me out. I'd wake up the next morning, You're fine. And I'm going on like two or three days of just like full congestion, like waking up choking on flam, like bad, bad, bad flu. And I forget which crew, but somebody said, like, you should just do a shot of whiskey because you don't drink, right, And I say, and they're like, do a shot a whiskey. It'll knock you out'll clear it all up, right, And that night I went to dinner at Del Frisco Grill. 00:25:05 Speaker 2: Okay, we love Del Frisco. 00:25:06 Speaker 3: Love the their egg rolls, Philly Philly cheeseteake egg roll. 00:25:10 Speaker 2: I'm not on board with a fusion egg roll. You don't, but we can. Let's continue, well, or or I mean maybe we would. I think I enjoyed, but I don't think it should be called an egg roll. 00:25:24 Speaker 3: Right right right? And is it? It's it's so it's all just the labeling. It's not the flavor. Mash. It's not that like an egg roll should have no like stringy crisp veggies. 00:25:33 Speaker 2: A lot of eggrols are bad. So many off to their old cabbage or whatever. So I'm fine with the filling. 00:25:39 Speaker 3: It's just call it something something else. Okay, I'm on board. 00:25:43 Speaker 2: Okay, this is the start of a resolution. 00:25:47 Speaker 3: And I did the I was like, can I just have like a bourbon, like bullet bourbon? Maybe it was raw doing jack raw and feel right and and best night of like when I go, like, what's the best sleep you ever? It was after doing that, and look, I realized that, like I've been battling in a few days, and there was Nikewilm was medicine, and then the whiskey was the tipping point. But I accredited my good sleep to that one ounce, neat shot of bourbon. And I was like, Okay, there's a there there. It can be. 00:26:21 Speaker 2: Useful, right, And let's pause for one second. 00:26:24 Speaker 3: Okay, back to the egg rolls. 00:26:26 Speaker 2: No, you were sick to the point of needing alcohol. Yeah, and you were in a restaurant. This is a very pre COVID story. 00:26:35 Speaker 3: We were so young, We were so young and naive. 00:26:38 Speaker 2: You were devastatingly a mask. 00:26:41 Speaker 3: If you if I saw someone in a mask, Oh, I was offended. I was afraid. I was that was an alarm. I'm gonna get Mugg's. I'm either getting my teeth cleaned or I'm about to. 00:26:54 Speaker 2: Get my gentle hygenessis going to take my money. 00:26:58 Speaker 3: Nope, You're so right. I'm part of it is. The job at that point was like you don't really call out sick frequently at SNL. And it changed my life. And then like a whiskey coke was a thing. 00:27:12 Speaker 2: Right, this kind of broke down the door, down. 00:27:14 Speaker 3: The barrier, and here I am at Mamma Fuku, which is great. Milk Bar is right above, like at the ground floor, you enter milk Bar and the birthday cake travels so good. Sweet dudes, I. 00:27:23 Speaker 2: Have a problem with milk Bar. Now they discontinued my favorite cake, which one the confetti was called. I think it was called the Salted Malted Cake or something so good. It was unbelievable. 00:27:33 Speaker 3: Why would they do that? 00:27:35 Speaker 2: I blame it on rapid expansion. Anytime a business begins to friend, yep, you have to cut corners and suddenly my favorite cake is gone. You lose me as a customer, Mama. 00:27:45 Speaker 3: And you didn't want me to talk about my kids getting hurt. Now I'm really sad. 00:27:50 Speaker 2: We're both tears streaming down our faces. Okay, you're at Momofuku. 00:27:53 Speaker 3: Jack and coke. Please, okay, we don't have Jack Daniels here, sir. 00:27:58 Speaker 2: Oh god, okay, you know what. 00:28:02 Speaker 3: And I'm like, what whatever, bring me whatever you have and I get the whole spiel. The George Dickll wants a master brewer for you know, for either Jack Daniels or Buffalo whiskey or whatever. Jack Daniels and Dickle like their headquarters are down the road from each other in what just south of Nashville. And so they said try this. You know, there's an M in the ice cube. It's a big cube of eyes, Emma. And and like their coke is not coke, it's like curiosity cola or whatever. 00:28:34 Speaker 2: You know. 00:28:34 Speaker 3: It was so delicious, kidding, it was so good. It was like, oh this is elevated. Okay, oh interesting. I'm the Momofuku. I'm the dumb Momafuku who doubted you guys. And so I said, where do you get it? Where do you get because it seemed like exotic and it's like, no, bevmo, go to Bevmo, but you can't get it at a lot of like grocery stores and stuff. Bevmo seems to be they have some overall dealer whatever. Okay, it's twenty dollars bottle of whiskey and it's a sour mash, which I learned about. 00:29:06 Speaker 2: What does that mean. 00:29:08 Speaker 3: Having taken a whiskey distilling course, Oh, in North Vancouver with sons of Vancouver Distillery who just won Canadian or Best Whiskey of the Year at the Canadian Whiskey Awards. 00:29:20 Speaker 2: Oh, this is incredible. So you were kind of training with Olympic athletes truly. 00:29:25 Speaker 3: I said, let's do a sour mash because you can take a workshop and they were very collaborative and they're like, what do you want your mash bill to be? Which is like the grain that you cook? Okay, and what do you what's your process? There are columns they use a column still for their distillation. I said, what's a sour mash. A sour mash is where you take remainder of your warted which is the liquid from when you first boil your mash. I think and that that gets distilled and that will have I'm trying to remember the details, but it's something like you'll get anywhere from eight to eleven percent alcohol from that initial cook's it ferments that initial war is very low alcohol, and you strip still that and you get up to thirty percent or whatever, and then that's what you really distill. You proof that up to for a whiskey when it's big, when it's more whole grains like this like a corn and a wheat healthy, When it's a nice healthy then you try to get between sixty five seventy five percent before you put it in the barrel. Okay, for a neutral grain, for like potato vodka, for any sort of vodka gin, you get it as high to ninety and above as possible. Because alcohols, there's like twelve to fourteen categories of alcohols, right, acetate being true poison, which is like that boils the fastest, and then once you get down three or four levels, that's the tasty stuff. Interesting, it was fascinating. 00:30:48 Speaker 2: Having the how whiskey is made explained to me. Yeah, this is the straightest moment that has ever happened on this podcast. A just seal it up in a bak you and I'm sorry, I I know nothing about it. 00:31:05 Speaker 3: By the way, full on whiskey man's splay with an incredible break without a brat. 00:31:12 Speaker 2: It's exhilarating. It was like going down. It was going up and then down a roller coaster of just straightness. It was incredible. I loved it. 00:31:19 Speaker 3: It's desperate to be an ally. 00:31:22 Speaker 2: You're bringing me into your community here. 00:31:25 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're not that different overall. Oh wait we are. Oh incredibly Wow. 00:31:31 Speaker 2: That's but that is fascinating. And so I'm wondering in this class, how much whiskey did you end up making? Did you take it home with you? Is that allowed so ill to. 00:31:39 Speaker 3: My process with the distillery was I would love to purchase the batch for private use if possible, right, And they said, sir, you have a problem. No, they said sure, we would have to do it in like small batches or whatever. But I ended up basically of that batch buying one hundred. 00:32:00 Speaker 2: Wow of does it come in a barrel? 00:32:03 Speaker 3: I bought the barrel separately. And then that property that we have up in Canada, they drove up there. There's this hundred year old barn on the property. It's like old, like looks like it's gonna fall apart, but really cool but also scary. It rules my dad, who is a contractor for most of my life. He and I went up there for a father son trip and we built and framed this sort of storage room inside that bar God and then we and in anticipation of this whiskey arriving. And then yeah, a year ago in September, they brought up the barrels. They pumped the whiskey in there, and it'll sit there till twenty twenty seven, when it's aged five years, which is when I want to take it out, and then I'll have to proof it down and bottle it and give it out as gifts. So this is a placeholder gift, incredible that I've out to you in four and a half years time. Okay, I will send you a bottle of this of this word miski. 00:32:58 Speaker 2: I've got to have it. I've got to have it. 00:33:00 Speaker 3: What if you just take a sip and you're just like. 00:33:04 Speaker 2: So much time, I barely drink, so when I do drink, it's, oh, it's still a shock. 00:33:08 Speaker 3: What is your go to spirit? 00:33:10 Speaker 2: It doesn't even matter to me if I'm at a Christmas party or whatever. I'll just be like, give me whatever, something that feels fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there's nothing I don't want to drink. I'm not a crazy like Tequila's not something I want to have down my. 00:33:22 Speaker 3: Throat, understood. 00:33:23 Speaker 2: I tend to go more mild Okay, okay, yeah, like a dickle coke. Yeah, I drink that. 00:33:30 Speaker 3: Be really nice and and a great base for an eggnog too. Oh interesting, you can spike your eggnog with it. That feels like a. 00:33:38 Speaker 2: Real formula for vomiting. 00:33:40 Speaker 3: Yeah, and yet I'll fight it tooth and nail until til Sanda is coming down the chimney and say, drinking my mind. I don't want a new computer, just don't want to throw up. 00:33:51 Speaker 2: So have you ever been drunk to the point of vomiting? Nosed? 00:33:58 Speaker 3: I have, but I have been don't remember drunk only twice in my life. 00:34:03 Speaker 2: And I hated it, right, I hate a great feeling to just hate it. 00:34:06 Speaker 3: I was like, this is good for no one, right, but especially bad for. 00:34:10 Speaker 2: Me, especially as I think if you didn't start until you were thirty, when it's like you don't have the training of sneaking it as a teen and then through your twenties and being fortified to be drunk whenever exactly thirty three, you're suddenly just blackout drunk for the first time. That's got to be a scary thing. 00:34:26 Speaker 3: So sad, so sad, a sad thing. 00:34:29 Speaker 2: When was the last time you threw up? 00:34:32 Speaker 3: I think it was backstage during Hamilton What Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's right. 00:34:38 Speaker 2: Were you just sick and you had to show up so sick? 00:34:42 Speaker 3: Did not want to call out? Oh? I was only doing it for three months and I play I played King George in that show for the three months, and I was so sick. It just it was like that was like true food poisoning, like I don't have a choice. But it's also maybe like of the I did like ninety nine performances. Of all of them, that's the most memorable and the one I'm by far most proud of. 00:35:06 Speaker 2: Of course, what a thing to work through. 00:35:08 Speaker 3: Exactly wow, truly like leave your body for the next four and a half minutes and sing bada ba da da da da da da, run back upstairs into the bathroom and. 00:35:18 Speaker 2: Just like, did the rest of the cast know you were sick? 00:35:21 Speaker 3: No? I tried. I think I think my dresser had no choice but to know, huh. And I tried to play it cool, but I called out sick once, okay. And it was the day after that where I was like, I'm just I am not in a good place. 00:35:34 Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, what a memory for the audience that would have been. It's just straight onto the front row. 00:35:39 Speaker 3: Yeah, I robbed them of that exact A lot of people that night. When was your last time. 00:35:44 Speaker 2: The last time I threw up? I've got to say it was probably Oh, that's it was a food poisoning event, and it was Oh, I was. I had been in San Diego and had some bad barbecue. I think this is the last time. Interest It must have been like late twenty fifteen, early twenty sixteen. Threw up in our hotel. It was the last thing. We're there. Then we're driving home, We're pulling over on the freeway. I'm throwing up rough, I'm getting some blue Gatoray drinking. We're getting into some bad images here throwing up in a shopping bag. So it was a food poisonings the worst one. 00:36:16 Speaker 3: That's it. You have no power at that. 00:36:18 Speaker 2: Zero control whatsoever. I mean, I will say the thing about throwing up is I mean the catharsis and the oh now it's out of my body. Yeah, that feels nice to me. 00:36:29 Speaker 3: Yes, And I have that awareness constantly, like this, your body only does this when it needs to do it, and it's in an effort to make you feel better, idiot, And yet I refute it, but. 00:36:42 Speaker 2: Eventually it comes. It has to come every time. 00:36:45 Speaker 3: For the food poisoning, without a doubt. Yeah right, real bad food poisoning. Barbecue food poisoning is that's a rarer one. It's always like seafood based seemingly. 00:36:53 Speaker 2: It's a smoked chicken, I think, and so okay, poultry, salmonia, right, you're not you never know. And it really went for me. 00:37:00 Speaker 3: Yeah uh. 00:37:01 Speaker 2: And then the time of I think the time prior to that was a kish and that was definitely I had been sitting out too long. I'm always out. It's never like I'm sick at home. It's like I'm riding the train and now I'm sick. 00:37:12 Speaker 3: And yeah, I take care of my food. I know how to cook. 00:37:18 Speaker 2: I'm eating a lot of my food is usually in the danger zone. 00:37:22 Speaker 3: How do you feel about a food spread? 00:37:25 Speaker 2: Oh, that's just been sitting out not even that, just in gen just like you're showing to an event and it's it could be the highest caliber, but it's spread. I don't like it same. First of all. Okay, so there is the it's just there. It's for anyone can do whatever they want to it. Yeah, flies, all of this and like haha, flies and look at my laptop screen. 00:37:49 Speaker 3: Absolutely filth. Take air, take it, take a photo air drop it to me. 00:37:53 Speaker 2: It actually was recently cleaned, but this thing was filthy. But yeah, there's all of that. 00:37:59 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:37:59 Speaker 2: My next problem is I don't like, I don't know how to modulate how much food should be on a plate. 00:38:04 Speaker 3: I'm a horrible blader. 00:38:06 Speaker 2: Yeah, horrible either too much or way too little. 00:38:09 Speaker 3: Only ever too much, only to the point where like the baked beans are dripping off the side and they're. 00:38:14 Speaker 2: All over the other food. Yes, I need a professional in charge of that. 00:38:18 Speaker 3: And rarely, to the point of almost never is a food spread laid out in the way it should be where you're should be leafy greens, then maybe a grain, then your protein and saw it's like you start with sauce then meat or just meet out the gate. 00:38:35 Speaker 2: Yes, than just a bowl of crew tis. 00:38:37 Speaker 3: Yeah exactly is the last Yeah, but like chips like chips and day. 00:38:41 Speaker 2: Like it doesn't make any sense. 00:38:43 Speaker 3: I also think of the preparation. You can't finally prepare anything and mass. 00:38:50 Speaker 2: No no, no no, I mean you're talking about that, then you just have to dump it into a big tray. 00:38:55 Speaker 3: It's it's already been in some big metal industrial vat. Probably he meant for like medicine mixing, but they're putting mac and cheese into it. 00:39:06 Speaker 2: Unappealing. 00:39:06 Speaker 3: I can't do it. 00:39:07 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I just I try to avoid family gatherings. 00:39:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, for so many reasons that I'm with you there. 00:39:15 Speaker 2: I love my family so much, but I can't look at. 00:39:17 Speaker 3: The spare your best friends. They're not just my family and my best friends. 00:39:20 Speaker 2: Can't look at the spread, can't deal with a paper plate full of barbecue sauce. So it's I'm glad we're on the same page. There. I've got my whiskey. 00:39:28 Speaker 3: Now you got your whiskey. I was getting. I mean, like, this day could go so many ways, right, it could be like enjoy with friends when you when it's supposed to be try a taste here live on the podcast, or am I coming back from my car tomorrow. 00:39:40 Speaker 2: I wonder what effect this would have on the rest of my day if I drank it. I could have just a tiny sip. 00:39:44 Speaker 3: If we did like one ounce taste, I think that could be that's required. Kay, I love this. I love it. 00:39:50 Speaker 2: Let's see here, I'm gonna. 00:39:52 Speaker 3: There's a serrated edge here. Yeah. Yeah, that's again. Like I'm not even I'm not even sponsored by but I just I love the problem. 00:40:01 Speaker 2: And here you open this the rest of the way for me. Okay, now, how should I consume this? Should I let's see. 00:40:08 Speaker 3: We're in your backyard. I don't see. 00:40:12 Speaker 2: Shut from take a tiny sip? Oh yeah, only so you take a picture or a video of me. 00:40:18 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is good, good, this is this is g baby GZ you get a video here. 00:40:27 Speaker 2: We're gonna do a tiny sip. It's one thirties or so, all right, yeah yeah, not that bad. My eyes are already watering. But it was a nice sip. 00:40:47 Speaker 3: I didn't know what kind of I was, like, I might show up and Bridge may be sober. 00:40:53 Speaker 2: Oh of course that's always a fear of taking an alcoholic but. 00:40:57 Speaker 3: Also a good paying forward gift to I feel. 00:41:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you put it in the cupboard and you can take it to the next birthday part correct. 00:41:04 Speaker 3: But for not a drinker, you did very well because because straight straight bourbon out of the bottle is not like my favorite way to consume. But it was, really it was GC for days. 00:41:15 Speaker 2: You don't always get to pick how you drink. No, that's another thing that's going to go in my book. 00:41:19 Speaker 3: Good Days and Drinking. It's not up to any of us. 00:41:23 Speaker 2: No, it was. It tasted perfectly fine to me. I mean I could have done the whole bottle. Yeah, you could have just watched me die here alcohol poisoning. 00:41:33 Speaker 3: And I'm sure I think I canceled it. Why what do you say? No, no, no, no, not that way, not like cancel it. I think I killed it. I killed the podcast. 00:41:44 Speaker 2: They're looking for a new host, someone who can handle their drink. I'm now deeply drunk. Yeah, I'm gonna stagger back into the house. 00:41:55 Speaker 3: Great everything about single Parents, writers Room, dish on everybody, horrible people, No, so good such a good shows, I mean, like such a great show to work on. 00:42:08 Speaker 2: You were so good in it. 00:42:09 Speaker 3: You were so great on it too. 00:42:11 Speaker 2: People had such a great But TV is a nightmare. 00:42:14 Speaker 3: TVs is antiquated. 00:42:16 Speaker 2: It's a one knows what to do with it at this It was a sweet show. 00:42:19 Speaker 3: But it was a great show to work on. 00:42:21 Speaker 2: It was just a nice atmosphere. 00:42:23 Speaker 3: I just love the atmosphere. I loved everybody at Cross Baths with yourself included. 00:42:27 Speaker 2: Everybody was nice to each other. JJ the boss was such a sweetheme. 00:42:31 Speaker 3: Nicest person in the world. 00:42:32 Speaker 2: Yes and so, and now it's gone. 00:42:34 Speaker 3: And now you know Hulu, Hulu looking. 00:42:38 Speaker 2: Up, we'll all get a quarter of a scent residual. 00:42:42 Speaker 3: Why is that not their catchments? Hulu? Who knew it is? 00:42:46 Speaker 2: Now? Actually, we're not promoting Hulu right now? Yeah? 00:42:51 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's why. Who knew they'd be so bad? But great, great content, and it's the great content is why we fight. 00:43:00 Speaker 2: We did not fight for the money. We do not fight for our health insurance. We're fighting for shareholders. At the end of the day, I'm looking out for Wall Street, I'm looking out for Big Tech. If the strike isn't over by the time this podcast is released, I'm going to rent farm equipment, some sort of destructive thing, and I'm headed to all first to Disney. Then we're gonna go to the West Side. I'll go to Fox I will be unstoppable. 00:43:26 Speaker 3: I got so excited because I thought you meant to disney Land in that like on your way out to what I thought the premise was, You're gonna start a farm and switch skills. You're like farming equipment. I'm gonna start making corners. I'm bringing orange gros hired by your whiskey story. Now I know that they need grain come all over it new avenue of Revenue. And then you say I'm gonna go to Disney I was like, and he's stopping by Disneyland before leaves town. We should be so much. We should be such closer friends because Disneyland. I'm crazy for Disney. 00:43:58 Speaker 2: And you can talk. I mean I think you could talk open. 00:44:01 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:44:01 Speaker 2: I think this is kind of the first thing I learned about you as a person in person, Okay, because you came to the writer's room and I don't even know how we got onto Disneyland. 00:44:08 Speaker 3: Well they know how. You brought it up my chest attic. Yeah. 00:44:13 Speaker 2: Are you still a giant Disneyland person? 00:44:15 Speaker 3: Huge? Massive? Yeah. 00:44:16 Speaker 2: I recently learned there's some sort of program where you can pay seven hundred dollars an hour for someone to kind of guide you through Disneyland. 00:44:22 Speaker 3: The VIP tour. Yes, yeah, that's yeah, it's a fluctuating price. Is it is costly, It's it has gotten it used to be not that costly. And I grew up here in southern California, so I was like in groups of friends who would go to town hall and be like, our friend has broke their knee. We need a wheelchair and that's how you'd get to the front bypass things they've They're like, yeah, yeah, doctor's noted. 00:44:47 Speaker 2: Right, and they have a doctor there. 00:44:48 Speaker 3: Doctor he comes out to kick you in the lake to make sure, like he's such a goof. Yeah. No, the VIP tour is is it's a real amazing it's get you get a VIP tour guide with their tartan vests. So they got the blue slackser skirt and then the tartan vest. 00:45:06 Speaker 2: Do you have to make conversation with them? 00:45:07 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I've I have. I'm a true freak. 00:45:12 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I know you are all right, you said this the last time. 00:45:16 Speaker 3: No, you're not that bad. 00:45:18 Speaker 2: No, you owned it annos. Now I'm owning it for you. I'm exposing you in the worst way. 00:45:23 Speaker 3: So I've had different calibers of of VIP tour guides and honestly, like they all start at eight and a. 00:45:30 Speaker 2: Half, right, Yeah, they must have some sort of personality. 00:45:34 Speaker 3: Yeah, we have landed on a true ten who we try to work request every time. Filander is that's a great name. If Disney Magic took human form, this is the Nextander. 00:45:48 Speaker 2: And he's like a career tour guide. 00:45:51 Speaker 3: Yeah he is. He he became I don't want to get it wrong, but either a legacy or legendary member he got in h he has a special blue or a special tag that says like voted by your peers. Wow, as someone who is really spectacular. 00:46:07 Speaker 2: Do you think his coworkers hate him? 00:46:10 Speaker 3: I don't think they're allowed to on property. But the reason all of us love Disney is because of how much darkness we're pushing down. 00:46:19 Speaker 2: Yes, there's a giant, gaping void. Yes that you you know, you get the somebody cutting you in line at the Splash mountain or whatever, and for a moment. 00:46:28 Speaker 3: I can't feel it there. It's the same way where they won't pronounce someone dead on Disney property. They take the body of that right and they go, oh, this is the time he actually died. That's right, So that nobody has ever perished, no one on Disney property. Well, we all know that. 00:46:42 Speaker 2: There's so many bodies. 00:46:43 Speaker 3: There's so many ghost bodies, murdered of ununionized animators. 00:46:50 Speaker 2: If someone hasn't been killed in a somewhere in Disney, then somebody, a murderer is missing an opportunity. 00:46:55 Speaker 3: Yeah, give them a shot. 00:46:57 Speaker 2: Give everybody the thrill of that. 00:46:58 Speaker 3: Not to go back to Hulu, but that would make a great Hulu doc. 00:47:01 Speaker 2: There we go. The murderer declared. 00:47:03 Speaker 3: The happiest murderer on earth. 00:47:07 Speaker 2: What's your favorite Disneyland ride? 00:47:10 Speaker 3: Now Tiana and Friends formerly Splash, but it hasn't opened yet. No, Tiana's Palace open. The Eatery opened September ninth. You're the one. 00:47:22 Speaker 2: That I mean, you're giving a lot of proof to what I said. 00:47:25 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I watched me eclips. What you thought? What you thought? You knew? You didn't realize. I thought I was breaking deep. The well goes, this is a lake, and then and then that'll open probably sometimes summer fall next year. 00:47:43 Speaker 2: Oh so not that far. But there's just gonna be kind of this sery that makes no sense. 00:47:47 Speaker 3: For a little while, the eateries closed down for a while. It used to cafe. They've shuddered it. And then they'll reopen as Tiana's Palace and it's going to be like the Princess and the Frog and they'll have you knowns and gumbo and right. I think the menu will probably be similar with a couple of highlights maybe. 00:48:06 Speaker 2: Kind of like the ride. 00:48:08 Speaker 3: Yeah, the ride, Well, my reasoning for the ride is that you get many shades of what Disney does best. You get the dark ride experience. I love that part, consume demersed into a world of animatronics come to life. They're tangibly, and then you get the thrill, which I love. And that's a that's a space, that's a that's a big thunder right in Credit Coaster. 00:48:30 Speaker 2: Matter Horn, let's not leave the matter Horn out. 00:48:32 Speaker 3: That I hate the matter Horn. 00:48:34 Speaker 2: That is, everyone leaves injured. 00:48:37 Speaker 3: I refuse have you done? Disney World? 00:48:40 Speaker 2: A long time ago middle school. 00:48:43 Speaker 3: Animal Kingdom has a ride called Expedition Everest, which is kind of what the matter Horn should be, what we all wish it were. Right. 00:48:50 Speaker 2: It was built post nineteen seventy nine. 00:48:53 Speaker 3: When like, yeah, when when theme park rides are just like we got steel. 00:48:57 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got hard angles and steel enjoy. 00:49:01 Speaker 3: Yeah, matter horn like, I love the history and I love when Tinkerbell flies out of it. So on I will I refuse to write on that one. The thing about for the or the ride formerly known as Splash, is that it's also a water flume. It's a water. 00:49:18 Speaker 2: Love water anywhere. Getting on a water flume, I'm out of my mind, a little bit of splash, the floating sensation, the like weird styrofoam seats that you can squish. 00:49:29 Speaker 3: Where did you grow up? 00:49:31 Speaker 2: Utah? 00:49:31 Speaker 3: Are there? 00:49:32 Speaker 2: There's a place called Lagoon? 00:49:34 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:49:35 Speaker 2: Lagoon is not ideal, Okay, not your ideal thing, but perfect well serviceable. 00:49:42 Speaker 3: It's no Disney It's all you know. 00:49:44 Speaker 2: It's it is name dropped in a Beach Boys song. 00:49:46 Speaker 3: Give it that? Okay? 00:49:48 Speaker 2: So is there a Disneyland Beach Boys mentioned? 00:49:52 Speaker 3: I don't know, but I think they've performed at concerts on properties, so. 00:49:57 Speaker 2: Maybe they didn't perform at Lagoon. 00:49:58 Speaker 3: Big Fish eats Little Fish kind of thing, right. 00:50:01 Speaker 2: Right, Okay, So Splash Mountain was my favorite as well. Yeah, and I love the look of the animals. It's too bad they're tied to some sort of racist movie. Yes, where will those animals go? That's the big question. 00:50:12 Speaker 3: It'll be interesting to see what kind of re skinning this ride gets, right, because it is such a smart thematic shift right, Right, you're in New Orleans Square. You don't have a Princess thrill ride. It's swampy and loggy, just like in the movie Princess and the Like. It's and it's only on animals, right, So it's very smart. So are they just like literally resurfacing a rabbit in frost probably probably a bear into an alligator. 00:50:41 Speaker 2: Right, that's all right? Yeah, and you know there'll be the fireflies, what have you. It'll this makes sense to me. 00:50:49 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it's the genius of Disney. 00:50:51 Speaker 2: I have a hard time at Disneyland. Okay, extremely hard time, but I feel like I'm like getting you know, I'll like forget a lot of the bad feeling. They'll go away, as I've heard about pregnancy or whatever. Then you want to do it again. And it's starting to come for me. I'm like kind of craving being at Disneyland at night. But because my favorite ride is closed down. It'll probably be a year a year. 00:51:13 Speaker 3: Are you able to tap in at all? 00:51:15 Speaker 1: Like? 00:51:15 Speaker 3: Is it the crowds? 00:51:16 Speaker 2: I mean it's almost every element. Okay, it's uh the price, the price, yeah, immediately, I'm mad. The travel distance, travel distance, I don't really standing walking. Those two are okay, what's crowds and money? 00:51:30 Speaker 3: Money? 00:51:30 Speaker 2: Money, yes, and I think that's essentially and then just other people like crowds and other people are individual yes, yes, because I'm looking at individuals, I'm thinking is that me? Oh no, that's the sort of person I am. And then the crowd is uncomfortable. It's like a concert going right right, right, right right, I'm not thrilled about. 00:51:49 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I find that I'm so dyed in the wall. I have consumed all the Disneyland kool aid kind of thing that I do. I'm with you any normal day people like avoided all costs at Disneyland. I see the best of humanity. Wow, I And I'm sure it's artificial. I'm certain, and I do not care. 00:52:15 Speaker 2: Well, when you just spent two hundred dollars on a ticket, you are going to be your best self no matter the costs. Yes, you have to have a best self day, yes, or an absolute meltdown day. Yes, nobody's just having kind of an average even. 00:52:28 Speaker 3: The meltdown day. If you if you really like when you're there in a year and if you happen upon a meltdown, look around, nobody's like going rolling their eyes. They're all kind of chuckling. They're all like so empathetic of that meltdown, right, They're all like, oh, we've been there. It's a long day here. If I had to wait to meet Peter Van, I'd be upset to like, it's that it is? It really is. 00:52:51 Speaker 2: Well, then you look at me, Look at how I'm looking at this. First, that guy's looking at me like he thinks I'm him. Are there handcuffs? Take this person away? I can't look at this act. 00:53:02 Speaker 3: Guy looked at my shirt and then adjusted his own shirt, And now I'm thinking about my shirt. 00:53:11 Speaker 2: Well, I'll give it another shot. I've got to ride the new version of that, right of course. Yeah, I think we should play. 00:53:17 Speaker 3: A game I would love to play time. 00:53:19 Speaker 2: We're gonna play a game called Analisa's Today Gift Master. 00:53:22 Speaker 3: How do you play on Aalise? Did I give? 00:53:24 Speaker 2: That's a new game. That game is still in develope is it. 00:53:27 Speaker 3: I love a good game. I love a complicated game. 00:53:29 Speaker 2: I love to give listeners a peek behind the curtain. That's in the future. We're still developing the rules for that game. No, today's gift master. I need a number between one and ten from you. 00:53:38 Speaker 3: Four. 00:53:38 Speaker 2: Okay, I have to do some light calculating, right, Okay, So right now, I guess you can recommend. I don't know that you can promote unless there's some non I'll promote. 00:53:48 Speaker 3: I'll recommend the strike what we're striking for. The solidarity that I've seen in the crossover from the Riders Guild and Actors Guild has been inspiring. I feel excited. I feel grateful to be a member of people who've been so proactive and so fairly stubborn. Like not they're fairly stubborn, but like stubborn towards fairness, because what's really important is fair compensation of art, Because whether you realize it or not, we as humans need art. It is not a luxury. It is not a want or a desire. It is a necessity to process. To feel catharsis to explore and discover this undefined made up chaotic existence of life, and without recognizing and honoring art, we lose our souls. 00:54:39 Speaker 2: Go to a monster truck rally. Art's garbage. I'm kidding. No, that a beautiful what an absolutely beautiful use of that time. 00:54:49 Speaker 3: Thank you. 00:54:50 Speaker 2: And I can't believe we're still fighting for this sort of stuff the world. I guess we're just on a treadmill, never ending treadmill. That's fine. I have to recommend something to today that I promised last week. Last week I recommended a coffee shop that most of our listeners probably don't have immediate access to. That was a little unfair of me. So now I'm going to recommend a bakery that I have no access to, that I've never even been to before, but I've been following on Instagram for a long time. It's called Fox in the Snow Cafe, I believe in Columbus, Ohio. It looks incredible. I've been following it and I recently mentioned it in our house and my boyfriend said, oh, I've been there, and I felt, it's like, what life have you been living? 00:55:26 Speaker 3: Ohio? 00:55:28 Speaker 2: He had been on tour in Ohio and had they had stopped there, But he's just suddenly he didn't even mention this place to me. I've made their cookies at home, I've used their recipe, and he hasn't mentioned a word. 00:55:37 Speaker 3: What's the book? What's the recipe? 00:55:40 Speaker 2: The recipe they put online for chocolate chip cocies there's delicious yet not yet just they're generous, although when restaurants give you the recipe, it's almost like, oh, yeah, you tried, see if you can do this exactly. But I'm looking. I'm trying to find a reason to go to Ohio and I haven't quite found a super solid reason to be in Ohio yet. 00:55:59 Speaker 3: Cedars. 00:56:00 Speaker 2: Oh that's not a bad idea. 00:56:02 Speaker 3: You know, I don't know. I don't know my Ohio geography as well as I should. But I don't know if Columbus is close to Cedar Point or what point is like right on the top side of the state. Okay, Columbus might be a bit lower. 00:56:15 Speaker 2: But going to Ohio, yeah, okay, maybe that's uh that's the first real reason I was like looking at concerts. Yeah, the sickness for me, I'm trying to get to a bakery. 00:56:27 Speaker 3: Coffee house, bakery combo. That is the best I've ever been to Cannon Beach, Oregon, an hour and a half two hour drive to the coast from Portland. 00:56:37 Speaker 2: Right, I've been to Cannon Beach. 00:56:38 Speaker 3: Okay, beautiful, Sleepy Monk Cafe, Sleepy Monk, Sleepy Sleepy Monk Cafe. They roast their own beans right there. You watch them roast. They bake all their own pastries in house. One of the best doonuts I've ever had in my life. And and and the mugs I got from these handmade clay mugs. Sleepy Monk. It's my It's my go to every morning for my more. 00:57:01 Speaker 2: Cannon Beach is kind of a no offense to Ohio. No, we love Ohio, but Kennon Beach is more of a vacation destination. 00:57:08 Speaker 3: Yeah, you go to the beach well, and if you're a Goonies fan, they've got the rock. They got Haystack Rock, right, Yeah, you. 00:57:13 Speaker 2: Gotta see the rock even if you haven't seen them. 00:57:20 Speaker 3: See, I'm testing this new I'm testing the friendship They're going like, where do I you know I'm a disney freak. Okay, how about this? Oh no, I lost a little visitor. 00:57:28 Speaker 2: She couldn't be friends. He doesn't like taffy. 00:57:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. That's my makor break. 00:57:35 Speaker 2: Okay, let's play the game. This is how you play gift Master. I'm gonna name three celebrities, three famous people, and three gifts, three things you can give away. Okay, you're gonna tell me which gift you'll give which person and why? 00:57:46 Speaker 3: Why? 00:57:47 Speaker 2: That makes perfect sense? Right? 00:57:48 Speaker 3: Yep? Okay. 00:57:48 Speaker 2: The gifts you'll be giving away today are a silver medal in the snowboard halfpipe. It's a nice gift. Not the best s gift, but a nice gift. Number two kind of an unofficial sponsor of the pod cast, cottage cheese. And number three malware malware on their computer protect from oh they got they opened a bad email. 00:58:11 Speaker 3: To something. 00:58:11 Speaker 2: They went to a website they shouldn't have been at, Icy Icy Icy. And the three people are Gail King we love gayl Mary Barry, who. 00:58:18 Speaker 3: We also love. 00:58:18 Speaker 2: She's left The Great British Bake Off. God knows where she is now. 00:58:21 Speaker 3: Okay, okay. 00:58:22 Speaker 2: And number three is leather Face. Leather Face from Texas chainsaw Massacre. 00:58:27 Speaker 3: I love her. Okay. This just feels like an easy. 00:58:30 Speaker 2: One, okay to me, I'd like to know why. 00:58:33 Speaker 3: It feels like, Oh boy, now I'm second guessing, but it feels like Gail is the only one who would have access to someone who would give a silver medal in snowboard there, and he's like, Gail, we did this one on one interview and you've helped me work through some stuff and you're the best. And I have a ton of gold medals but also the silver one, and I feel like you're like a second mother to me. So this is my silver medal to you. It's really for It has a surfboard on it, but imagine that's just like a like a tray for cookies or something. You are my second place mom. So I say that the metal goes to Gail. Okay, so I got cottage cheese and I got malware. I'm my first instinct was like, you give leather phase a handful of malware? Interesting, But then I was like that guy a computer I've got I've flipped back. Wait. So first thought was give him. 00:59:25 Speaker 2: The bad he's a bad dude, right right, Well, you know we've only seen one side of. 00:59:29 Speaker 3: Him between you and I. 00:59:30 Speaker 2: It's kind of mean, but we've seen it. I mean that we all know how it works. Yeah, you thinkitting on film and suddenly that's all anybody cares about. 00:59:39 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you have or never meet your heroes exactly. Yeah, I think, yeah, this is why I'm gonna This is what I originally thought, and I'm sticking to it. You give Mary Berry the cottage cheese. She's gonna whip up something wonderful. She can do something. She's gonna use cottage cheese in a way you never knew. You should have. Right, a lot of that recently, with some sort of shoe pastry with cottage cheese, like that. 01:00:04 Speaker 2: Could make sense, you know, right. I follow a woman on Instagram who makes a lot of recipes that are like how to make chocolate cake with cottage cheese and a chocolate bar, and then it always looks disgusting. There's something wrong happening in that. 01:00:16 Speaker 3: I haven't tried it for flavor yet. 01:00:18 Speaker 2: But everyone in the comments has. 01:00:19 Speaker 3: And they're roasting is leather facing the comments because that will help me finish this game, sending him malware. You'll never look at an online recipe again. 01:00:31 Speaker 2: LF Leatherface is just trolling the internet for recipes. He goes to one bad website and now he can't bake at home. He's not making the Fox and the snow cookies. 01:00:41 Speaker 3: This is the grossest thing I've ever had. And I eat human face like silly face, chainsaw, chainsaw. 01:00:50 Speaker 2: That makes perfect sense. You played that laser focus. Yeah, you really nailed it. 01:00:55 Speaker 3: I like giving gifts. 01:00:57 Speaker 2: You're very good at it. You've got me drinking on the podcast. 01:01:00 Speaker 3: That feels like a first. 01:01:01 Speaker 2: That is a first that has not happened, and it's just gonna get worse and worse until people are concerned. They're asking guests not to bring Please don't take alcohol to this podcast. Bring him a nice tea. 01:01:12 Speaker 3: The title becomes I said no rehab, please, please, John, don't make me go. You got a new theme song from wine House. 01:01:22 Speaker 2: Okay, so you played the game perfectly. That's great. The police are coming. It sounds like way length much. This is the final segment of the podcast. It's called I said no emails. People write into I said no gifts at gmail dot com, desperate for answers. These people are begging for help, and so I, of course, the out of the bigness of my heart, you reach out, reach out. I drag the guest into it. 01:01:45 Speaker 3: Can you help me? Yes? Please? 01:01:46 Speaker 2: Okay, let's read Okay, this is hello Bridger and Genius guests. We've got a I don't know what they were thinking. They were thinking the whole family was going to be here, but just you love the show so much. I tell everyone about it, but my family as I work on building up my secret life, they know nothing about. But we'll discover upon my death. Okay, we didn't need that detail. You're giving yourself away, but I support a secret life. Since the age of three, I have had the classic fairy tale evil step mom who was horrible to my siblings and I. She has been around for more than thirty years. She's been around. She's been circling the block for thirty years, so it's safe to say she is sticking around. My family is Midwest polite, so even though no one likes her, we will all put up with her at Christmas when we get together. What is a gift I can give her that says I don't like you, but it would be rude to show up empty handed. Thank you in advance. It's from MM. She her. Okay, so Mm's got this got and will continue to have evil step mom. Yes for the time being. Yes, And apparently Dad loves this person. Who the whole family has hated for decades. Yeah, that's a deep love, or it's a trap, it's a complicated love. 01:02:59 Speaker 3: It's a complicated. It's a complicated love because from Dad's side, just using the wicked stepmother metaphor, you know, Dad is looking for someone to help him right the ship. The dad. Dad's forlorn, right, Dad's heartbroken, distraught. 01:03:15 Speaker 2: He's just like a huntsman or a lumberjack or whatever they are in the very. 01:03:20 Speaker 3: Past, a gentle farmer. He just has a crop of Midwestern kids. 01:03:24 Speaker 2: And he's looking at there's one single lady in town, and she happens, she said. 01:03:28 Speaker 3: And she's around. She's the only one who's been around consistently. Something to occupy her is my first thought, Like is it a book of like Sudoku or cross words. 01:03:41 Speaker 2: Something you can do in the corner activity. 01:03:43 Speaker 3: And then if she talks to you, maybe it's something like what is a word for blah blah? And then you keep you're still giving her gifts, right, you know what I mean? For like what is a what is the five letter word for handcover? And you're like it's glove, and she's like, thank you so much. And then she back to it. 01:04:01 Speaker 2: King's a distracted Yeah, and you're building a gratitude bond between the two of you. And she's like, oh, maybe there's something I see in MM that I didn't see before, and maybe I've beent. She's I made her mop the floors for no reason. Yeah, trapped her in her room. This kind of thing. That's not a bad idea. 01:04:16 Speaker 3: Well, the other thought was a roomba. Oh you're saying, mop the floor is a room, And I was like, that's not bad for an evil stepmother. Here here is your new like, here's your new worker bee. 01:04:29 Speaker 2: Right, army of mice or birds flying through the window. 01:04:31 Speaker 3: And the reason it's good for someone you don't like because she's gonna be watching Yellowstone and cole House is gonna kick in the door and grab this as the character and and you're gonna hear the babe and it's gonna spoil her downtime. 01:04:57 Speaker 2: God damn it, Chuck, that's the your kid's room behind. 01:05:00 Speaker 3: A room again. But honey, he always wanted clean floors. 01:05:05 Speaker 2: That's a perfect gift that that really is the modern evil stepmother on the palace steps washing absolutely get her. Yeah, throw some bad are those batteries off, you know they're charging. 01:05:16 Speaker 3: And that she can be as mean as she wants the room. 01:05:18 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you can to be a beast to that thing and still have gained sentience. 01:05:22 Speaker 3: And then the robot kills back and he does the big vacuums now and you just see a digital tear roll down the room is front panel. 01:05:32 Speaker 2: I thought you were going to say, it's going to suck her in gathering strength goodbye stepmother. Yeah, I don't know if that's well. I mean, that's technology. The room had a good run too, She's had thirty years get rid of her room. 01:05:46 Speaker 3: But mom not my real mom. 01:05:49 Speaker 2: Okay, well we answered that well, I mean you answered that question perfectly. 01:05:51 Speaker 3: You had two perfect gifts right off the top of Okay, we hate. 01:05:55 Speaker 2: The and I mean we should just say we hate the step mom. She's not gonna listen because obviously she's not being told about the podcast. I really hate her. 01:06:02 Speaker 3: No, right, yeah, she's trash. She's absolutely now die soon. And then if this were a sketch show, you would dissolve to Midwestern step mom listening to this podcast single tear down her cheek as a room bug is activated and ruins listening Double Ruin listening to her favorite podcast. 01:06:26 Speaker 2: She navigates to the review page one star lost a listener. 01:06:31 Speaker 3: If you hadn't named all four of your children with them names, I would know who to blame for this. 01:06:36 Speaker 2: Now it's a murder mystery. 01:06:37 Speaker 3: It could be Meredith, Margaret. 01:06:38 Speaker 2: This is an evolving situation for sure. Okay, well you answered the question perfectly. Thank you, God bless you brought me this beautiful bottle, and I'm going to let it stand as a a reminder that I'm going to demand a bottle of the other that i'll take one sip from. 01:06:56 Speaker 3: It's a placeholder. 01:06:57 Speaker 2: Placeholder. 01:06:57 Speaker 3: And this is the last thing I'll say about whiskey. You're consuming time. That's why it's my favorite spirit. Oh that's a beautiful thing. It's really special. It's anything it gets aged like that. And this being a bourbon, it has to aged five years in an unused white oak American barrel. You're consuming minimum five years of time. You couldn't in history. 01:07:20 Speaker 2: You couldn't end the podcast without explaining one more thing to me. Unbelievable, disgusting. This is the problem with America. Oh no, Tarran, I've had such a wonderful time with you. 01:07:33 Speaker 3: Likewise, thank you for that time. 01:07:35 Speaker 2: Listener. The podcast is over. You knew it was over, probably in the last three minutes, you know how the structure of the podcast. I'm turning away. I'm absolutely turning away from Tarran. I'm asking him to go home. I'm just waiting. I'm gonna look at the wall until he's left a property listener, it's over. I love you, goodbye, I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend Analise Nelson, and it's beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday. And we couldn't do it without our guest booker, Patrick Coottner. The theme song, of course, could only come from miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show on Instagram at I said no gifts. I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts? 01:08:29 Speaker 1: Well, I invit, did you hear Thuna man myself perfectly clear? But you're a guest to Ma, you gotta come to me empty And I said, no guests, your presences, presents enough and I'm already too much stuff, So how do you dare to survey me? Became within a