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Speaker 1: Hey everyone, it's Sophia, Welcome to work in Progress. Hello friends.

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Speaker 1: Today we are joined by a guest that I have

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Speaker 1: such a comedy crush on. She is a brilliant comedian

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Speaker 1: and a trailblazer and a storyteller whose journey honestly reads

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Speaker 1: like an incredibly powerful underdog tail. Today we are joined

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Speaker 1: by none other than Christella Alonso. She is one of

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Speaker 1: the funniest women on stage and on TV working today.

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Speaker 1: Her stand up specials on Netflix deliver incredibly incisive commentary

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Speaker 1: on identity, class, mobility, her wild childhood, and she manages

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Speaker 1: to invite audiences to laugh alongside the deeply human truths

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Speaker 1: of her Latino culture, social awkwardness, racism, and the randomness

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Speaker 1: of everyday life. Her first two specials, Lower Classy and

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Speaker 1: Middle Classy, are about to be succeeded by a third,

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Speaker 1: and I cannot wait to talk to her about how

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Speaker 1: she writes about her life and her family, about how

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Speaker 1: she manages to blend her incredible achievements with really committed activism,

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Speaker 1: and more. On the subject of her activism, Christella is

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Speaker 1: doing something really incredible as she has been touring around

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Speaker 1: the country like so many of us, She's watched these

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Speaker 1: ice raids happening in our home city of Los Angeles,

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Speaker 1: and inspired by her mentor and idol, Delores Querta, she

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Speaker 1: decided to take action. So she started doing shows all

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Speaker 1: over LA called the Room Temperature Shows Tickets or thirty bucks.

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Speaker 1: She donates one hundred percent of sales revenue to the

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Speaker 1: Immigrant Defender's Law Center, which is a nonprofit thatocuses on

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Speaker 1: defending immigrant communities against injustices, and so far she's raised

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Speaker 1: nearly thirty thousand dollars. Crystella manages to be such an

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Speaker 1: inspiring and powerful voice that proves that laughter can drive

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Speaker 1: meaningful change, and I for one, cannot wait to dive in.

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Speaker 1: Let's hear from Christella. Do I go to the art,

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Speaker 1: the rad vintage on AirSign, the fiddlee fig You have

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Speaker 1: an excellent background here.

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Speaker 2: I always tell people that my esthetic is like mid

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Speaker 2: century pee Wee's playhouse.

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Speaker 1: Perfect.

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Speaker 2: It's you know, it's a lot. I'm a big plant person,

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Speaker 2: but I love color.

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Speaker 3: I love it. They don't have legos. I'm a big

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Speaker 3: lego person.

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Speaker 1: My god, me too. Shut up. I won Lego Masters

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Speaker 1: last year.

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Speaker 3: Shut up. I am so jealous of you. I am

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Speaker 3: so jealous of you.

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Speaker 1: It was the absolute time of my life. And I

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Speaker 1: looked at will Arnett and I was like, you have

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Speaker 1: the best job in the world. Like, bro, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to like push you down the stairs

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Speaker 1: to steal your job, but I'm thinking about it.

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Speaker 2: You know that the rumor was that he wasn't doing

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Speaker 2: the next season, so they're actually they're looking for people.

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Speaker 2: They were looking for people at all.

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Speaker 1: So what you're saying is we should be the co

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Speaker 1: hosts of Lego Masters.

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Speaker 2: I've actually talked to my manager about trying to see

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Speaker 2: if we could do it in Mexico, just so I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I'll speak it.

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Speaker 1: Think that would be so sick.

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Speaker 3: I'm like in love. I'm so jealous.

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Speaker 2: I cannot believe, Like, not only did you, not only

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Speaker 2: are you into Legos, but you won Lego Masters.

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Speaker 3: Like that's next level And I.

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Speaker 1: Gotta be honest, It's like after the first two builds,

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Speaker 1: I was like, we are not going to win, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. We just like me and Corey,

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Speaker 1: we just like stepped up our game and.

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Speaker 3: We did it.

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Speaker 1: We did it. There were animatronics involved. It was Christmas themed.

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Speaker 3: That's impressive.

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Speaker 2: And you know what people don't we don't talk about

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Speaker 2: enough in the Lego world is how your fingers hurt

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Speaker 2: after like the blocks and stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's really Yeah, it's also like it's like learning to

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Speaker 1: play the guitar, but it never gets better. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, aren't you so excited you came on

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Speaker 1: this podcast to talk about Lego today.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, it's one of my favorite podcasts.

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Speaker 3: I'm so stoked.

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Speaker 1: This is it, this is it, but this is how,

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Speaker 1: this is how it happens.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, because also with podcasts, it's like, look, I

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Speaker 2: was born in the same state every podcast and stuff,

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Speaker 2: but it's like when you get them, when you get

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and here I was going to be like, well,

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Speaker 1: we clearly have to go to the Rose Bowl together

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Speaker 1: because I'm a century junkie. But seriously, that actually reminds

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Speaker 1: me of the point I didn't finish before we discovered

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Speaker 1: this happy coincidence, which is remember that room raider account

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Speaker 3: I was like, you must be.

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Speaker 1: A ten out of ten on room Raider.

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Speaker 2: I went crazy. I'm like, let's wallpaper, let's just go,

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Speaker 2: you know, once I got the ten out of ten.

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Speaker 2: And I was doing a lot of stuff with MSNBC

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Speaker 2: to the room Raiders and they're like, look, she's Hall

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love it. It's like and this

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Speaker 1: week on MSNBC, I've upgraded to a Japanese maple. I

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Speaker 1: love it. I have to admit, this is going so

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Speaker 1: great for me because to make a comedian that I

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Speaker 1: love as much as I love you laugh, I'm like,

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Speaker 3: Obviously you have a new career, like wonderful.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: I had a tight five You're opening for me, like

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Speaker 1: Took me a little while to figure out that my

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Speaker 1: particular brand of just like neurospiciness, Yes, gives me crippling anxiety,

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Speaker 1: And then my mom was like, yeah, why do you

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Speaker 1: think you were so obsessed with like Jerry Seinfeld and

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Speaker 1: Murphy Brown and like you love Larry David. I was like,

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I have really bad anxiety and people don't understand, like.

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Speaker 1: You just see you are for me?

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Speaker 3: Like you are so for me, you said Seinfold.

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Speaker 2: When I was in high school, I used to love

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Speaker 3: Hey, I'm so cool.

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go here while you guys are hanging

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Speaker 3: But Marty Brown's one of my favorite shows.

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Speaker 1: Oh, my favorite show of all time.

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Speaker 3: I talk about it all the time.

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Speaker 2: I talk about the Mary Tyler Moore Show and Yes

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Speaker 2: Brown and like the evolution of women me too.

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Speaker 1: And I really think even when I like, when I

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Speaker 1: started to really know I wanted to focus on theater training,

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Speaker 1: I think half the reason I wound up. When I

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Speaker 1: got to college and I was like, Oh, all these

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Speaker 1: don't know if these are like really my people. I

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Speaker 1: want to like tell stories, but this seems like a lot.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, it's because I wanted to be Murphy Brown. Yeah, yeah, cool, cool, cool,

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Speaker 1: But this is actually something and I want to I

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Speaker 1: I've thought a lot about, you know, becoming a fan

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And actually I think it's really interesting. I loved

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Speaker 3: theater growing up. I loved it. I wanted to be

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Speaker 2: And I remember, you know, I'm in my forties, and

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Speaker 2: it used to be that growing up. Every night, families

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Speaker 2: Like that was just and CBS was like my Sunday

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Speaker 1: She wrote, Yes, I got a cute little old lady

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Speaker 4: And she's just so perfect and she can't drive like

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Speaker 4: she's actually, if you think about it, she's almost like

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Speaker 1: And your incredible, incredible, but she's a scrub. But also,

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Speaker 1: we don't deserve Angela Lansberry and what do.

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Speaker 3: You do with that? Yeah, totally, it's like ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: I used to watch Murder sheer and then one night

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Speaker 3: And I started a theater, but my mom couldn't.

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Speaker 2: And then in high school I started doing uh oratory.

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Speaker 2: I started writing speeches and like did bait and theater

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Speaker 2: And then I remember I like, look, I love I

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Speaker 2: love to perform.

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Speaker 3: I love to act. But once I knew the activism,

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Speaker 2: I love and it's just what you know. I hate

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Speaker 2: social media and I love social media because it's like

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Speaker 2: And you know, when the Internet started, I was like,

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Speaker 3: If you had to check.

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Speaker 2: or somebody stole it and just didn't know about like Japan.

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Speaker 1: for similar families now.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think that when I was a kid,

441
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Speaker 2: my I was the youngest of four and we're they're

442
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 2: all like older, so they're like eleven, thirteen, and.

443
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Speaker 3: Fifteen years older than I am.

444
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Speaker 2: And when I was a kid, they really did such

445
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 2: a great job of shielding me from a lot of bad,

446
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 2: a lot of the bad that I remember my childhood

447
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:18,479
Speaker 2: being so happy. I remember so much laughing, so much joy.

448
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:24,719
Speaker 2: You know, when I was born, we lived in this

449
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 2: abandoned diner. We squatted in an abandoned diner for the

450
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Speaker 2: first seven years of my life, and we didn't have money,

451
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 2: and my mom used to borrow electricity from this house

452
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Speaker 2: that was next to the diner, and they would let

453
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Speaker 2: us use an extension cord and we would power our

454
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Speaker 2: diner with the extension cord and she would give them

455
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Speaker 2: some money every month. And there were times that we

456
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Speaker 2: had no electricity and we used to have this little

457
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Speaker 2: radio from radio shack, and we at night was so dark,

458
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 2: my mom would play the radio and we would pick

459
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 2: up stations from like Mexico that she knew, and on

460
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 2: a clear night, and we would just sit around in

461
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Speaker 2: the dark, just singing and like really kind of having

462
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 2: like a very sit commie almost. It almost seems so scripted,

463
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 2: this family moment. But it was so happy that I

464
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 2: didn't realize that we had no electricity, you know.

465
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Speaker 3: But it's that thing.

466
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Speaker 2: There were moments I knew that we were poor, and

467
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 2: the kids at school made sure that you knew that

468
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Speaker 2: they knew you were poor.

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Speaker 3: And there is a moment.

470
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Speaker 2: Where I knew, but I was happy and I did

471
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Speaker 2: you know, I worked with what I had.

472
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Speaker 3: But there is a moment in my twenties. When I

473
00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 3: was telling a.

474
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Speaker 2: Story of how I grew up, I was I had

475
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 2: just moved to La I can't remember, but there used

476
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 2: to be a diner around like Beverly Hills, West Hollywood

477
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 2: where the servers were so rude on purpose.

478
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: A becks. They would throw French fries at you. Yes, yeah,

479
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: that was the whole shtick. You'd go in to get

480
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: yelled at and berated. It was a performance, and they

481
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: would like take a dance break on the tables.

482
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

483
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 2: I wasn't there, and I'm telling the story about my

484
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 2: childhood and this one guy's like, you're poor.

485
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 3: And the way and like like it was insane.

486
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 2: It was this moment where that specific story YEA could

487
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 2: not understand. He couldn't understand because he would have never

488
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 2: guessed that I had grown up so poor. You know,

489
00:27:53,960 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: it's this assumption that because you're well spoken, because you're

490
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 2: you know, people think, well, it's weird.

491
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 3: How class this idea, how class is.

492
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 2: So embedded into our society that they think that this

493
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 2: class system that is kind of invisible but exists is

494
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 2: connected to education.

495
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Speaker 1: Well, they assume it's connected to your to intellect and worth. Yes,

496
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 1: which is so so weird.

497
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, because sometimes people will treat you.

498
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 3: Like because you had no money, you didn't learn the.

499
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 2: Same alphabet, the same math, the thing that anybody else did.

500
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Speaker 3: It's it's really.

501
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Speaker 1: Weird here, Like I didn't have to pay per letter in.

502
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 4: School exactly exactly, Okay, yes, you know.

503
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Speaker 2: And but it was that moment in my twenties, at

504
00:28:54,600 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: that story, at that moment that I realized the of

505
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: poverty that I lived in wasn't everybody's experience. And it's

506
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 2: weird because I wasn't allowed to go hang out at

507
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 2: my friend's houses when I was My mom was very strict.

508
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 3: And you know, as a kid, you only know your life.

509
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 2: Exactly, so you think you assume that your life is

510
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 2: like everybody else's life, and then when you go out

511
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 2: into the real world and you meet other people, you

512
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 2: realize everybody has a different life. Right When when I

513
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 2: went to college, I remember there was a guy uh

514
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: in my year that was writing out a check for

515
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 2: his tuition, like just flat out all of it. And

516
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: I had never seen anyone write a.

517
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: Check for that much money and it was and it was.

518
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 3: So nothing to him, and.

519
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 2: I realized, oh wow, like there are people that can

520
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 2: do that. And it was such a weird moment that

521
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 2: you realize, like I have work study, I have the

522
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 2: pel grant, I have, like the the SEO, like the

523
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 2: lower income. You know.

524
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Speaker 3: It was so different, and but then you remember that

525
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 3: you're both in the same spot.

526
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's when I think, I think a lot

527
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 2: of us forget that regardless of where we came from,

528
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 2: we find ourselves in the same spot, you know. So

529
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 2: it's like he can afford it, I couldn't. And we

530
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 2: were both at the same college. And that showed you

531
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Speaker 2: that that showed you that there are certain equalizers in life,

532
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 2: you know. But it is this thing where, you know, yeah,

533
00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 2: realizing what I've been able to accomplish despite because of

534
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 2: also the way that I was raised and how I

535
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 2: grew up. I also realized that the narrative that was

536
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 2: being shown about my community was so badly written and

537
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 2: people were going with it. Yeah, But it was this

538
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: thing where you wanted to be the outlier and show

539
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 2: people this humanity because that is the thing we're very

540
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 2: good at vilifying what we don't know.

541
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, with any community.

542
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 3: We don't know it.

543
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: So it's like we vilify it because what are we

544
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 2: going to do get to know them, it's easier to vilify.

545
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: Them, which is crazy to me. I'm like, I literally

546
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: started a podcast so I could hang out with people

547
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: I think are interesting who otherwise wouldn't meet. Like, I've

548
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: given myself the job of getting to know people because

549
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: it's it's the best job I've ever had. And we're

550
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: just like out here acting like we don't need our neighbors.

551
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: It's so weird to me, and now for our sponsors.

552
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: I think part of it for me is, look, I

553
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: understand the privilege I was born with being born in

554
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: la when I was looking like I look like I

555
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: can kind of pass anywhere. You know, you don't get

556
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: to not be Latina unless you're like, you know, eating

557
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: in one of those by the way, ironically, the way

558
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: you talk about growing up, I'm like, yeah, now there's

559
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: like Michelin Star restaurants where you eat in the fucking

560
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: dark and you're just supposed to trust the chefs, Like okay.

561
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: But it's like for me, I sort of have this

562
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: really interesting experience stretched across two communities because my dad

563
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: is an immigrant who didn't become a citizen until I

564
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: was thirteen. My mother was worn here, but my mother's

565
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: mother immigrated with her family through Ellis Island, and they

566
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: experienced in that generation the backlash against you know, the

567
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: Italians and the Irish people that was swiftly swept under

568
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: the rug because the really waspy white people were like, Okay, well,

569
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: we'll collect anyone who looks white and let them be

570
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: part of our community so we can complain about all

571
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: the other communities. And I'm like, really, we're we still

572
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: haven't gotten the point. So, you know, I grew up

573
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: pretty secure, like very lucky. My dad's a wonderful entrepreneur

574
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: and artists, but my mom spent a large part of

575
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: her childhood in a housing project in the Bronx, like

576
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: eating sandwiches when there was no food. Yes, so I

577
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: understand our relative comfort, and I very much understood my

578
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: whole life and work to still the absolute lack of

579
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: comfort that so many people come from and experience every day.

580
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: And I remember going to college thinking like, you know,

581
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: I have like a pretty nice life.

582
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 3: Yes, you know.

583
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 1: When I was thirteen, we like moved into a house

584
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: with an extra bedroom, like whooie. And I got to

585
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: USC and I was like, oh, there are there are

586
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 1: eighteen year old girls who take a credit card their

587
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: dad pays for to Gucci and spend ten thousand dollars

588
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: and don't get murdered by their families, like I would

589
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: cease to live on the planet.

590
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

591
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, I have like a meal plan

592
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: card that my parents got my bed as announcer like

593
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: I'm pretty lug and luggy, and I went, oh, and

594
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: that's really where I saw, like there's every kind of life.

595
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 3: Yes.

596
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: What's crazy to me is that generation after generation of

597
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: families with stories like my moms with my grandparents and

598
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 1: yours with your parents, we are still doing the thing

599
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: where we look at our neighbors like they're not our neighbors,

600
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: like they're not like they're the problem instead of a literal,

601
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: you know, ruling class trying to become an oligarchy that

602
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: uses everyone else as they're underpaid workforce.

603
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 3: You pull up the ladder.

604
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and I don't get it. And for you,

605
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: I really want to thank you, because not only have

606
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: you broken barriers in your community, you've broken barriers for

607
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 1: women in our industry. Like when you win, it makes

608
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: it easier for me to win. And you're taking your work,

609
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: and you're really creating something out of it. You're doing

610
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: these room temperature shows, you're supporting the Immigrant Defender's Law Center,

611
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: like you are out on a comedy circuit making people laugh,

612
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: and you're also managing to make that activism. And I

613
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: want to talk about it because I think so many

614
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 1: people view activism as like hard intellectual sad, angry work,

615
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: and they miss that it can be the most creative,

616
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: most generative, most affirming, like community experience. And I think you, yeah,

617
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 1: you're like showing that out loud and on the road

618
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: right now, and I'm just I don't know. I want

619
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: to give your flowers and I want to talk about it.

620
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 3: No, I think that you know, there's there's two kinds

621
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:21,720
Speaker 3: of people.

622
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 2: I think that the people that we're talking about that

623
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: do pull up the ladder, you know, it's uh, people

624
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 2: forget that they were once where the other people are

625
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 2: that they now do not want to support, do not

626
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: you know.

627
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 3: That they right, it's and it's weird.

628
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: But then there's also the people that come from it

629
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 2: and it is so embedded in them that you cannot

630
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 2: ignore what is happening. And I'm that person, you know,

631
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 2: and it's growing up in a border town in the eighties.

632
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 2: I grew up with with the UH. I grew up

633
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 2: with the immigration rates from the border patrol. So what

634
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 2: is happening in our country right now is old news

635
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 2: to me. Yeah, you know, and I know that people.

636
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 2: I like when people get invested in it. I would

637
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: love if people One of the reasons that we find

638
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 2: ourselves where we're at is because people do not know

639
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 2: their history.

640
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 3: If we knew our history, we would not repeat it.

641
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: Right.

642
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,439
Speaker 3: Yes, that's the same, right we are. Those that don't

643
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 3: know history are doomed to repeat it. You know.

644
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: Well, and let's be clear, that's why they're trying to

645
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: defund education absolutely so they can keep doing this to people.

646
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, And it's it's this weird thing where for me,

647
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 2: there is no way that I couldn't be active because,

648
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 2: like with what is happening right now, with Ice coming in,

649
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 2: taking people, kidnapping people, I start thinking, that's my mother. Yes,

650
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: and not only that, but like right now, my brothers

651
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 2: and my sister they all live in Texas, and it's

652
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 2: weird to live in a time where you don't know

653
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 2: if they're okay, even though they're citizens. Yes, my oldest

654
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 2: brother became a citizen in twenty sixteen, and we were

655
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 2: talking about how we should check into getting our Mexican

656
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 2: citizenship become dual citizens, and it's just it's this thing

657
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: where you're like, this is where we're at.

658
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, Anyway, I think that for me.

659
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 2: Because I'm so specific in my stand up and when

660
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 2: I had my show, it brought in when I started

661
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 2: doing clubs after the show, I started bringing in this

662
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 2: demo that the clubs never didn't really see, which was

663
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: a lot of like latinas, a lot of like college educator,

664
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 2: like a lot of college like educated, like recent graduates

665
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 2: or like.

666
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 3: Because the sitcom I wrote was.

667
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 2: About me finishing in law school, that there were a

668
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 2: lot of lawyers, a lot of professionals that were coming

669
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 2: to the clubs.

670
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 3: That never went to comedy clubs.

671
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 2: They didn't know they existed, so they've went to the

672
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,240
Speaker 2: clubs because the girl from the show was at the clubs.

673
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 2: And when I started talking about how I grew up,

674
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 2: it resonated with so many people that saw me because

675
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 2: that was their story too, and they liked that I

676
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 2: was showing this smart character that was really trying to

677
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 2: better themselves and like and wasn't you know, wasn't wearing,

678
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 2: It wasn't being very tropy, wasn't being typical, you know,

679
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 2: it was you know in the show, I I was

680
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 2: a big nerd, you know, and I liked being a nerd.

681
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 2: And then after I shot my first Netflix special in

682
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen in August, and I it was right.

683
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: Before, right before the election, and I.

684
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 2: Thought, well, you know, we're going to be fine. You

685
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 2: know we're gonna be fine. And I tell this story

686
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: all up. But like the Lotus worked as my mentor.

687
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 2: So I've learned a lot from the Lotus, a lot

688
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 2: of community work, everything, all the activism I really learned

689
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 2: from her. And we were together on the night of

690
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 2: the election, and when you know, I was moderating a

691
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 2: panel and I was supposed to moderate a panel the

692
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 2: day after the election about the power of women and

693
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 2: the ability to make change because we thought Hillary was

694
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 2: going to win, obviously, and when she didn't, I was

695
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 2: crying so much.

696
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 3: And it was like that thing where it was the.

697
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: Cry that was so out of the blue that you

698
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 2: know sometimes when you start crying, you know it's coming,

699
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 2: and just it was that moment that just hit and

700
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: came and by lightning.

701
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was so weird. It was just devastation

702
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 3: that you couldn't put into words. And it was overwhelming.

703
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 2: And I remember the next day I had to go

704
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 2: They got me, uh to go moderate the panel. We

705
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: were on a boat and so we couldn't go.

706
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: God, that must have felt so dystopian and crazy.

707
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 3: It was insane.

708
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 2: We had nowhere to go, and there were people that

709
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 2: were celebrating that he won on the boat, so it

710
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 2: was like totally different.

711
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 3: It was it was a social justice cruise.

712
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,439
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I could then you can't this this

713
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: is an episode of a sitcom, Like it was.

714
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 3: A social justice cruise.

715
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 2: All of the people of color were on the boat.

716
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 2: We were doing workshops and panels or for rich white

717
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 2: people that were celebrating that he won.

718
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: I could not have done it. I don't know how

719
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: you did it. I could not have done it.

720
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 6: We were in the middle of nowhere, like what you know,

721
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 6: Like it was like and look, and there were people

722
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 6: that were there were people that were all that were

723
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 6: devastated as well that were rich.

724
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 2: But there were a lot of people that were partying.

725
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 2: And I get taken into the room, into the green room.

726
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 2: We're going to start this panel and Dolores sees me

727
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 2: and my eyes are so swollen. She's like, like, what's wrong?

728
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 2: And I was like, well, you know, like I've been crying.

729
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 2: She's like why what happened? You know?

730
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 3: And in my mind I'm like, oh my god, like

731
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 3: she doesn't.

732
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 2: Know, and you know, and she was like.

733
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 3: She was like oh. She's like, this is the first

734
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 3: time your country's broken your heart.

735
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: Oh my god. That makes a sob.

736
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 3: She's like, this is not going to be the last time.

737
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, And she looks over to the other panelists Sonya Sanchez,

738
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: this badass black poet, and she looks at her and

739
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 2: she's like, you remember Nixon? And they start laughing, right,

740
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 2: and Deloris is like, Christella, you can be sad, you

741
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 2: can be angry. You go to bed, you cry, you

742
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 2: feel angry, you feel furious. Live with those moments, and

743
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 2: then the next day you wake up and you fight

744
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: every time that you think, every time it gets hard,

745
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 2: you remember those moments that you were sad and furious,

746
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: and you use it to continue the fight because change

747
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 2: is possible. And I remember after that in twenty sixteen,

748
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 2: that election, I it changed my trajectory forever. And it

749
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 2: was this thing where I took it to heart to

750
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 2: the point that I realized that I needed to figure

751
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 2: out what my life was because I didn't know what

752
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 2: was coming, but I knew that it wasn't going to

753
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 2: be good for a lot of people.

754
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and.

755
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 2: Once it started with like the Muslim band and I

756
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 2: started seeing she's so many minorities struggling. I started thinking,

757
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,720
Speaker 2: I can't do stand up right now. And I remember

758
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 2: I emailed my people and I said, I don't want

759
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:39,720
Speaker 2: to work. I don't, I don't I need to step

760
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 2: away because I don't feel like I can be funny

761
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 2: right now.

762
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 3: And also there weren't a lot of shows. People were

763
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 3: trying to cater to this right leaning, super conservative Like, yeah.

764
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: That didn't fit me. It's like, why do I want

765
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 2: to be part of this. I'm like, I'm going to

766
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 2: sit it out.

767
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 3: And I didn't.

768
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 2: And I you know, it took me about god, I

769
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,760
Speaker 2: would say about a year and a half.

770
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 3: I started working in the community.

771
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: I started doing grassroots, I started working with nonprofits. I

772
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 2: started trying to raise money. You know, I started thinking

773
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 2: what what am I good at? IM like, I'm fluent

774
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 2: in Spanish, I love talking about voter outreach. I want

775
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:28,479
Speaker 2: to make sure that everybody that I can help, which

776
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 2: in the community that I'm from, which is Latino, but

777
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 2: more importantly lower income. Yeah, I wanted to make sure

778
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 2: that lower income people knew that government programs existed.

779
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 3: I wanted the problem is is that we need access.

780
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 2: And it was like this thing where the next couple

781
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 2: of years I came back, I shot the second special,

782
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 2: and then with everything happening now the third special that

783
00:45:54,840 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 2: I wrote, I've been doing and it's about It's about

784
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 2: how in times of struggle we need to find joy

785
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 2: and how even time, and how when we don't, when

786
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 2: we lose the joy, they win, Yes, And you cannot

787
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 2: have them win because they want to see you miserable.

788
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 3: And yes, will not.

789
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 2: Be miserable because life has already taught you that you

790
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 2: should be miserable. You're expected to be miserable. And I

791
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 2: tell people this at every show. The problem isn't that

792
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 2: you don't work hard enough. The problem is you work

793
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 2: too much. Yes, you work too much, and you don't

794
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 2: allow yourself the chance to enjoy happiness.

795
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you have to because the joy, joy is

796
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: the light. Yes, Like when you think about the teachings

797
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 1: of people like Dolores Glorious Stein. I'm doctor King. Like

798
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: the light in the dark is joy, it is community,

799
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: It is being in love, it is getting married anyway,

800
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: it is being with your family anyway, It is laughing anyway.

801
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: It's like whatever thing brings you hope. And you're on

802
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 1: the road doing the job you do. You've launched these

803
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: companion shows to raise I mean you've raised like over

804
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: thirty thousand dollars at this point with these room temperature shows.

805
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 3: At thirty dollars a ticket.

806
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 2: It's all all like raised, it's all but it's all

807
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 2: community raised. And yes, I actually do it as an example.

808
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 2: To me, it's a long term plan to show people.

809
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 2: It's actually it's weird. It's like to me, it's this

810
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 2: is part of the outreach to teach people how much

811
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 2: they matter. You see the president going into cities that

812
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 2: he didn't win.

813
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's like and that's it.

814
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 7: It's interesting, isn't it. And there are cities with black

815
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 7: mayors too. In Yeah, we have to keep saying that

816
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 7: part out loud.

817
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 2: It's the cities that he didn't win that supposedly needed

818
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 2: so much help.

819
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: They're just out of control, the lowest crime rates in

820
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: thirty years.

821
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 3: That's on the lowest crime rate.

822
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 2: So it's this thing where with one thirty dollars ticket

823
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 2: mixed with other thirty dollars tickets. The first show we

824
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 2: raised twelve five hundred dollars.

825
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 3: It's incredible at thirty bucks a pop. Thirty dollars.

826
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that just shows you that your thirty dollars

827
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 2: raised twelve thousand dollars. Yes, thirty thousand dollars comes from

828
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 2: thirty dollars a ticket that shows you that change can happen, yes,

829
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 2: at very small increments. And that is what happens when

830
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 2: you vote, if you actually show up your vote with

831
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 2: other votes. I try to describe it as a choir.

832
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 2: One voice is needed with another voice, and together you

833
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 2: make beautiful music.

834
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 3: And that's what we can do with change.

835
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: It's so cool to see you building an example of

836
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: collective power through joy. Yes, I think that kind of

837
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: joy that becomes a source for creativity, that becomes a

838
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: source for purpose that's so much bigger than just your career.

839
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: That is about identity and self like as you cultivate that,

840
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: as you push this third special into the world for

841
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: us and thank you. We need it desperately. So what

842
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: feels like you're work in progress? What are you focusing

843
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: on next?

844
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 2: I actually it's funny. I actually have always said that.

845
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 2: The older I've gotten, I've realized that I really do

846
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 2: feel that I want to be.

847
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 3: In service to others.

848
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is just it's something that I think is

849
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 2: bigger than a lot of things. And I you know,

850
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 2: when I was a kid in fourth grade, I told,

851
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 2: you know, we made a little makeshift year book in

852
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 2: my class and they asked all of us what we

853
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 2: wanted to be when when we grew up, and I

854
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 2: said I wanted to be president of the United States.

855
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 3: And everyone made.

856
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: Fun of me, and there were people that were like,

857
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 2: how are you going to be it? And it was

858
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 2: this thing I was such a I was a nerd.

859
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 2: I loved politics everything and like as a little kid,

860
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 2: and I was like, yeah, you're right, Like I listened

861
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 2: to people and I didn't even follow it. And I've

862
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 2: always said it's like I've always said that I would

863
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 2: be open to running for office, yeah, in the future,

864
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 2: if it was something that was good for the community.

865
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because.

866
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 2: Having worked on elections and I worked on all the elections.

867
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 3: You know, it's like you see how you see.

868
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 2: What is needed, and you see, you know what the

869
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 2: work that needs to be done, and trying to find

870
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 2: a way of like figuring out what is the most

871
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 2: effective way that I can use what I'm good.

872
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 3: At, yes to make change.

873
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, when we talk about politics, we always talk middle class.

874
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

875
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 2: It's like we need to talk about the people that

876
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 2: are in poverty too, everybody, everybody. We need to be

877
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Speaker 2: abusive because the people in poverty also vote, you know,

878
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 2: and it's like we make it seem like they don't,

879
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Speaker 2: and it's like that's why they A lot of people don't.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we'll be back in just a minute, but here's

881
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Speaker 1: a word from our sponsors. And one of the things

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Speaker 1: I think is so important is beginning to figure out

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Speaker 1: how to deem miss defy the kind of reality a

884
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Speaker 1: little bit for people, because like I try to tell

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Speaker 1: people all the time, I'm like, look very similarly to you.

886
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know me from TV. You think I'm

887
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Speaker 1: living like I don't know, j Lo, I'm not. Almost

888
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Speaker 1: nobody is. Almost everyone in our union has to have

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Speaker 1: a side hustle or a second job or whatever. And

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Speaker 1: by the way to be clear, I only have healthcare

891
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Speaker 1: because I'm in a union, you guys, Like, it's the

892
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Speaker 1: only reason I can go to the fucking doctor. Yeah,

893
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Speaker 1: And I think, not only do we need to be

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Speaker 1: more inclusive of language in terms of people that are

895
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Speaker 1: on the suffering and the risk end of the spectrum,

896
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Speaker 1: we also have to be clear that like the other

897
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Speaker 1: end of the spectrum doesn't really look like what you think.

898
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: Like everybody's not really doing better than you. Everybody's having

899
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Speaker 1: a hard time. And if we all got together and

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Speaker 1: bargained better collectively, everybody's lives would be a little easier.

901
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be that somebody was like getting one over

902
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: on you. It would just be that maybe we could

903
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: build a larger middle class again, maybe we could build

904
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Speaker 1: more upward mobility for more people, and like people could

905
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: live in dignified ways, which seemed much more possible two

906
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Speaker 1: generations ago. But that's because the wealth disparity wasn't so bad.

907
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And you know, and I think, and it's weird

908
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:34,240
Speaker 2: because because going back to like a social media, because

909
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,919
Speaker 2: it is the way that so many of us see life, right,

910
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 2: you know, it's weird to have this illusion being presented

911
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 2: in social media, it's the worst. You know, Like sometimes

912
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 2: it's funny how the algorithm knows I'm in my forties,

913
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Speaker 2: so they try to sneak in what they think I

914
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Speaker 2: would like. And it's always like every now and then

915
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 2: it's women with their skincare, right, Oh so much skin care,

916
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 2: so many products that you're just like, I can't.

917
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Speaker 3: I do not have the time to do all of

918
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 3: these steps.

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Speaker 1: I'm just like, I don't even know what that is.

920
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 3: Yes, it's like basic, you.

921
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Speaker 2: Know, it's like I but also like you see makeup

922
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 2: and you see I'll see women that you know and

923
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Speaker 2: men that like, they'll spill a whole bottle of foundation

924
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,919
Speaker 2: on their face for drama, and I'm thinking that that's

925
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Speaker 2: expensive bottle, you.

926
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Speaker 3: Know, pr.

927
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Speaker 1: But even if it was, it's wasteful.

928
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Speaker 2: It's the illusion that, oh, this is everybody has money.

929
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,439
Speaker 2: Look at us. We live in this penthouse and.

930
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Speaker 7: We everybody's couseplaying everyone, And it's just like can we

931
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Speaker 7: be can we be vulnerable?

932
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Speaker 2: Is it okay to show people what.

933
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Speaker 3: What we really look like, what we really do?

934
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Speaker 2: You know, people will always tell me, they always accuse

935
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Speaker 2: me of getting work done right, and it's like this

936
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Speaker 2: thing because the assumption is that at my age, I'm

937
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Speaker 2: always getting work done.

938
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're like, no, actually, forty is hot. Yes,

939
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Speaker 1: it's but I hate to break it to you guys,

940
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Speaker 1: like forty is not.

941
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Speaker 3: Like there are people that look older in their twenties.

942
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, by the way, I look better. I look

943
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Speaker 1: better in my forties than I looked in my thirties.

944
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Speaker 1: For sure. In my thirties, I was mad, depressed. I

945
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Speaker 1: was in like a bad sitch I and you could

946
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Speaker 1: see it on my face. And like, it turns out

947
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Speaker 1: happiness looks good on people. Yes, maybe that's the work

948
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Speaker 1: in progress. Maybe the work in progress is just to

949
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Speaker 1: get more gorgeous as we age because we get happier.

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Speaker 2: Actually, that's actually look, I'll sign up for it. I'll subscribe.

951
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Speaker 2: I mean, because it's true. It's like, honestly, when when

952
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Speaker 2: you think about like the Golden Girls and how they're

953
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Speaker 2: in their fifties.

954
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Speaker 1: Insane, I'm like, those are those are seventies year old women?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

956
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Speaker 1: Like, what are we talking about? Maybe eighty Sophia, my namesake,

957
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Speaker 1: eighty she was in her eighties, That tiny, tiny, adorable

958
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Speaker 1: little woman.

959
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Speaker 3: Was like someone's great grandma.

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Speaker 8: What are we talking about, which, By the way, I

961
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Speaker 8: always tell people Sophia was an immigrant, and we never

962
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Speaker 8: talked about We never bastardized her immigrant journey anything, because.

963
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Speaker 1: It didn't have to be central to her identity. It

964
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Speaker 1: wasn't the only interesting fact about her.

965
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Speaker 2: We knew personality, we knew who she was and everything.

966
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Speaker 2: It just so happens that she was an immigrant. And

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Speaker 2: that's another thing I want to tell everybody. I want

968
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Speaker 2: to remind everybody. We get a lot of bad news,

969
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 2: we get a lot of bad taken in. We need

970
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 2: to focus on movement of good too.

971
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Speaker 3: We need to.

972
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Speaker 2: See small ones too, and being hot in our forties

973
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Speaker 2: is a good thing.

974
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Speaker 1: Just saying let's fight fascism and look great while doing it.

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Speaker 1: I am like, sign you up, well, thank.

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Speaker 3: You so much for today, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Sweet so you tune