1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. This is the best of with 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 2: Welcome hen Clay Travis, buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: you hanging out with us. We've been reacting much of 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 2: this week to the debate that took place on Wednesday 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: night yesterday, much discussion. I told you I thought the 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 2: three best contenders were on the stage. I said that 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: Ron DeSantis with ak Ramaswami and Nicki Haley to me, 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: were the three best on the stage all night long. 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: And I told you. 11 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: That I thought Nicki Haley's answer on abortion was the 12 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 2: single best answer that I saw on the stage, which 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 2: would guarantee a Republican victory and should be the talking 14 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 2: points going forward from everyone. And we are joined now 15 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: by Nicki Haley, and so let's start there. Governor Haley, 16 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: appreciate the time you asked the question that I think 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: every Republican should be asking. In addition to answering the 18 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 2: question on abortion, I thought, very very well said really 19 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: radical position. Here is the Democrat one of abortion being 20 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: legal at thirty eight or thirty nine weeks. And I'd 21 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: like to see Democrats actually have to answer on that 22 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 2: as opposed to Republicans have to answer on where exactly 23 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 2: the line should be drawn going forward. I thought it's 24 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: exactly right explain for people who may not have heard that, 25 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 2: your argument, your attack, and your position on abortion. 26 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Clay, it's great to be back on 27 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 3: with you again. You know what I said was that 28 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 3: I am unapologetically pro life, not because the Republican Party 29 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 3: tells me to be, but because my husband was adopted 30 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 3: and I had trouble having both of my children, so 31 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 3: I am surrounded by blessings. But having said that, I 32 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 3: don't judge anyone who's pro choice, and I don't want 33 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 3: them to judge me for being pro life. This is 34 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 3: an incredibly personal issue for every woman and every man, 35 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 3: and we need to treat it that way, and we 36 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 3: need to be honest with the American people that first 37 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 3: of all, in order to you know, I think the 38 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,919 Speaker 3: right thing happened. Unelected justices never should have been dealing 39 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 3: with something this personal. It was sent back to the 40 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 3: people to decide. I think that's where it needed to be. 41 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 3: But the debate has been should there be a federal 42 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 3: law in reference to it? And the American people are 43 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 3: never told the truth. They're just told to hate each other. 44 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 3: And the truth is, in order for a law to 45 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 3: pass on this issue, you would have to have a 46 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 3: majority of the House and sixty Senate votes. We haven't 47 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 3: had sixty Senate votes in over one hundred years. We 48 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 3: may have forty five pro life senators. So no Republican 49 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 3: president can go and ban abortions any more than a 50 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 3: Democrat president can ban these state laws. So let's start 51 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 3: talking about what's doable. And in order to do that, 52 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 3: that means you have to find consensus. I think we 53 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 3: can all agree that we should ban late term abortions. 54 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 3: I think we can all agree that we should encourage 55 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 3: adoptions and good quality adoptions at that. I think we 56 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 3: can all agree that doctors and nurses who don't believe 57 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 3: in abortions shouldn't have to perform them. And I think 58 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 3: we should agree that contraception should be accessible. And I 59 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 3: think we should agree that no state law can say 60 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 3: to a woman who's had an abortion that they're going 61 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 3: to jail or getting the death penalty. Let's start there. 62 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 3: The goal should be how do we save as many 63 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 3: babies as possible and protect as many women as we can. 64 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 3: I'm not going to demonize this issue like everybody else has. 65 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 3: I'm going to humanize this issue. And I think that 66 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 3: it's time we're going to do that. And I refuse 67 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 3: to get into the back and forth. It's going to 68 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 3: continue to divide women and divide people in this country. 69 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 3: It's too important of an issue. And I said, I'm 70 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 3: waiting for the day that the media asked Joe Biden 71 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 3: and Kamala Harris are any of the Democrats if they're 72 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 3: for thirty eight, thirty nine or forty weeks because they 73 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 3: have said they want abortion up until that they want 74 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 3: an abortion up until birth, and we should go and 75 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 3: call them out on it and make them have to 76 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 3: say it the way Republicans are constantly trying to get 77 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 3: others to say what we are in the Republicans. 78 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 2: I think that's well said, and I'm sure you look 79 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 2: at the data, and also I'm sure in your life 80 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: you have a lot of experience like I do, where 81 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: let's say you're just out for dinner and you're not campaigning, 82 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: and there are women mothers out there who agree with 83 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: Republicans on almost every issue, but they get locked in 84 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: on abortion and it drives the way that they vote 85 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: and the data. You correct me if I'm wrong based 86 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: on what you see, Governor, But the only way Republicans 87 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 2: win in twenty twenty four is by getting suburban moms, 88 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: suburban educated women to come back to the Republican Party. 89 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: And without directly addressing abortion and pointing out what Democrats 90 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: are saying and why it's incorrect, there's no way to 91 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: win those women well. 92 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 3: And not only that, I mean, it's just that's part 93 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 3: of who I am too. You have to respect the 94 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 3: views of other people. You know, my I had a 95 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 3: roommate in college who was raped. I wouldn't wish on 96 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 3: anyone to go through what she went through when she 97 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 3: was wondering if she was practic it be you know, 98 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 3: respect the fact that everybody has a story and their 99 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 3: story might not be your story. But Republicans shouldn't be judgmental, 100 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 3: and Democrats shouldn't be judgmental on this issue either. So 101 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 3: if they want to be judgmental, call them out on it. 102 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 3: But we shouldn't be a part of that. So let's 103 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 3: focus on the issue and be constructive and focus on 104 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 3: how we move forward. There's ways to do that, and 105 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 3: we all actually agree on the things that I said 106 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 3: and so I think that that's the way Republicans should 107 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 3: be talking about it. I don't think the guys have 108 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 3: done it very well at all, and you know, I'm 109 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 3: not going to be. 110 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 4: A part of that. 111 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 2: Talking to Governor Nikki Haley, what's the reaction been since 112 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 2: the debate ended for your campaign? 113 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 3: No, the phones have been ringing NonStop. Were so grateful that, 114 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 3: you know, the support has been coming in, the calls 115 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 3: has been coming in. We've continued to do press and campaigning. 116 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 3: We still have long days, but that's what we want. 117 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 3: And we knew, you know, honestly, Clay, that we weren't 118 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 3: going to see a bump in the polls up until 119 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 3: now because we had been saving all of our money 120 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 3: for TV. I think I'm the only candidate that's flying commercial. 121 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 3: We stay in a lot of garden ends and residence ins, 122 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 3: and we save all our money for TV. And I 123 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 3: didn't go on TV like the rest of the guys 124 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 3: through the summer because I knew families were on vacation 125 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 3: and kids were out of school. We purposely waited, and 126 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 3: you know, we started to go on TV August first 127 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 3: to get our message out. We were strong on the debate. 128 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 3: We've done eighty town halls in New Hampshire and Iowa. 129 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 3: We're touching every hand, We're answering every question. I'm the 130 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 3: last person to leave. No One's going to outwork me 131 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 3: in this race. No one's going to outsmart me in 132 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 3: this race. We have a country to save, and I'm 133 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 3: determined to save her. 134 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 2: Talking to Governor Nikki Haley had an outstanding, I thought 135 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: performance in a debate on Wednesday night. I like to 136 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: ask this question. You were on the stage with seven 137 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 2: other contenders. Trump obviously was not there. If you had 138 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 2: to pick someone other than yourself that you would like 139 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 2: to see as president in those eight, somebody that you 140 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 2: think would do a fantastic stick job. It's easy to 141 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 2: tear down people. Who did you like, Who have you 142 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 2: gotten to know a little bit through the years that's 143 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: running that you think, Hey, you expect obviously you want 144 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 2: to be president. Who else do you think would do 145 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: a really good job that. 146 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: Was on that stage. 147 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 3: I mean, most of the guys on the stage are 148 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 3: my friends. 149 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 4: You know. 150 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 3: I've known him for years and I tend to always 151 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 3: lean towards governors. I think the fact that you know 152 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 3: you have to have governors know what it means to 153 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 3: actually run a state. That's like running a mini business. 154 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 3: And you know the red tape, you know the bureaucracy, 155 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 3: you know that the problem children that you can have 156 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 3: at agencies. You know what you need to do to 157 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 3: get things done, and you do it. And so you know, 158 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 3: anyone that's been a governor, I'm always going to say, 159 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 3: you know, would do a better job than anyone who hasn't. 160 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: You went after vi veg Ramaswami aren't on foreign policy. 161 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 2: A little bit of fireworks there. The crowd really responded 162 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: in a favorable way. I thought to you in Milwaukee, 163 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 2: why did you attack him there? Why do you think 164 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 2: he is weak when it comes to foreign policy. 165 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 3: Well, I didn't see it as an attack as much 166 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 3: as I think that we needed to. You know, it 167 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 3: was him being naive, and I wanted to make sure 168 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 3: that people understood. You know, I disagree with him saying 169 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 3: we need to defund our partnership with Israel. They're the 170 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 3: first line of defense when it comes to taking on Iran. 171 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 3: I disagree with the fact that he was saying, you know, 172 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 3: we need to appease Putin and you know, let him 173 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 3: take twenty percent of Ukraine. You know, my husband's in 174 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 3: the military. I like every military family, I don't want 175 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 3: to see my husband go to war. So we need 176 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 3: to believe Putin when he says when he's done with Ukraine, 177 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 3: Poland and the Baltics are next, that means we're looking 178 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 3: at a war. We need to prevent war. And when 179 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 3: you look at that, I have said, I don't think 180 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 3: we just give blank checks to Ukraine. I think we 181 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 3: need to give them the military equipment and ammunition that 182 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 3: they need. With our allies, America has given and we 183 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 3: need to tell truth to America. America has given three 184 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:01,359 Speaker 3: and a half percent of our defense budgets to Ukraine. 185 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 3: That's a small price to pay to know that we 186 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 3: are preventing war because the Ukrainians have built up a 187 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 3: strong military and they're winning right now in Russia. We 188 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 3: need to finish this war quickly, and I think we 189 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 3: can do that. Biden has been slow to the take, 190 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 3: but Vivek says we need to go in a piece Putin, 191 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 3: let him have parts of Ukraine and then tell him 192 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 3: he's got to get away from China. That's just naive. 193 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 3: China and Russia named themselves unlimited partners. They meant it 194 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 3: when they said it. They're showing it in their actions. 195 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 3: China has been preparing for war with the US for years. 196 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 3: We see that in the infiltration in America, whether it's 197 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 3: been taking our farmland, whether it's sending sentinel across the border, 198 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 3: whether we see it in the fact that they're stealing 199 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 3: intellectual property, or how they're building up their military, and 200 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 3: China is watching what happens with this. A win for 201 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 3: Russia is a win for China, and Americans need to 202 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 3: be sober on that fact. And that's why when Ukraine 203 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 3: wins this, it will send the biggest message to China 204 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 3: not to go until the Taiwan. It'll send a message 205 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 3: to Ron to stop building the bomb. It'll send a 206 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 3: message to North Korea to stop testing ballistic missiles. But 207 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 3: you know, the things that he was saying just they 208 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 3: were naive at best, and I thought that he needed 209 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 3: to be honest about the fact that you can't just 210 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 3: say you're going to tell Putin to get away from China. 211 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 3: It doesn't work like that. I've negotiated with Putin, I've 212 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 3: negotiated with China. I know how they are, and you 213 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 3: have to really take them at their word and know 214 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 3: that they're constantly lying to you. 215 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 2: We're talking to Governor Nikki Haley. Great performance in the 216 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 2: debate on Wednesday night. Do you think that Joe Biden 217 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 2: will actually be a Democrat nominee? 218 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 3: I don't think Joe Biden's going to serve his term. 219 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 3: I have said a vote for Joe Biden is a 220 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 3: vote for Kamala Harris. And you know, I got into 221 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 3: a George Stephanopolis about this yesterday because he got upset 222 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 3: that I said that you can't look at the decline 223 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 3: that he has had just in these past three years 224 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 3: and tell me that he's going to finish out the 225 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 3: next four. It's there's not an American Reportublican or Democrat 226 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 3: that believes that. So make no mistake, this is Kamala 227 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 3: Harris waiting in the wings, and it should send a 228 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 3: chill down every American spine to think that Kamala Harris 229 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 3: could be president. 230 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 2: What's your reaction to the Trump mugshot and the Trump 231 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 2: arrest that happened last night in Atlanta. 232 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 3: It was a sad day. It was disgraceful. I mean, 233 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 3: the idea that in America we would see a seventy 234 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 3: seven year old former president actually have to take a 235 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 3: mug shot and to see this happening. I mean, no 236 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 3: one should feel good about that, and you know, it's 237 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 3: it's I found it disturbing. I found it upsetting. I 238 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 3: think it's wrong, and you know, and I think that 239 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 3: the media, you know, blowing this up is not helpfully either. 240 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 3: When I'm on the ground in New Hampshire and Iowa, 241 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 3: they're not talking to me about how many indictments this 242 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 3: has been. They're talking to me about the fact that 243 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 3: the economy and inflation is sky high and they can't 244 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 3: afford groceries and gas. They're talking about the fact they 245 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 3: can't afford childcare. You know, we've got to really focus 246 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 3: on those issues, and the crime and the border, and 247 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 3: the fact that our children had fallen behind in education, 248 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 3: and that we have national security threats. But I thought 249 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 3: it was terrible that that's what we had to witness yesterday. 250 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: Governor Haley. If people like what they're hearing from you, 251 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 2: where would you tell them to go. 252 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 3: I would tell them we have a country to save, 253 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 3: and go to NICKI Haley dot com and join us. 254 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 3: We're going to finish this and we're going to make 255 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 3: sure that America is strong and proud again. 256 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: Governor NICKI Haley of South Carolina, appreciate the time. 257 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 3: Okay, thanks so much, Clay, welcome. 258 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 2: Back in more positivity. I am an optimist, you know, Buck. 259 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 2: Today is National Bikini Day, and I would imagine that 260 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 2: there are probably a decent number of our listeners still 261 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 2: on vacation. It would not stun me if we are 262 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 2: being listened to all over the United States and some 263 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 2: places around the world by people that are out on 264 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 2: the beach today as they're you know, sort of sampling 265 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 2: what's going on, checking to see what we're talking about. 266 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: God bless you. 267 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 5: Are you claiming that there are ladies in bikinis listening 268 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 5: to the Clay and Buck Show right now? 269 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 2: I would think that the answer is yes, Although I 270 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: bet there's more men slightly overweight in bathing suits listening 271 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 2: to the Clay and Buck Clay and Buck Show right 272 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 2: now than there are women in bikinis. But I will 273 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 2: say this, I spend a lot of time, not this 274 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 2: year as much. But you're in Miami, I bet you 275 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 2: see people in bathing suits all the time. 276 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: The bikini keeps getting smaller. 277 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 2: Have you noticed this, like back in the day it 278 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 2: was like almost no one had a bathing suit where 279 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 2: you could see the whole butt, right, That used to 280 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: be really rare. Every girl wears I don't even know 281 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 2: how women get in these bathing suits. Every girl basically 282 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 2: wears bathing suits. And I say, girl, I'm saying, like 283 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 2: sixteen forty five. Now, there's not a lot of difference 284 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 2: in women's bathing suits. There used to be like a 285 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: mom bathing suit, and there was like a teenage girl 286 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 2: bathing suit. You know, there's not a lot of difference anymore. 287 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 5: Buck, Yeah, there was like the like the dark blue 288 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 5: one piece, you know, that was kind of like the mom. 289 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: Yes, the standard mom. 290 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 5: You know you go with the dark blue one piece 291 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 5: that you're like, yeah, it's a bathing suit. 292 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 6: There's that. 293 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 2: I know there's a lot of men out there who 294 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 2: know what I'm talking. I can't tell now. Is that 295 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 2: like somebody mom? Is that somebody's older sister? Is that 296 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: like a sororityes like the age range, there's almost no 297 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 2: difference in the way people dress. 298 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 5: So I need to understand something, Clay, and I think 299 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 5: the audience deserves the truth on this one. Do you 300 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 5: own either European cut or full scale speedo bathing suits. 301 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 2: No, I have never worn any. To my knowledge, I've 302 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: never worn any bathing suit other than a you know, 303 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 2: like knee lenked bathing suit. 304 00:14:58,720 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: I will tell you this buck. 305 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 2: When I started dating my wife, we were out with 306 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 2: her dad and he has a boat. 307 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: He lives in Michigan. 308 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 2: We were out on one of the lakes and he said, hey, 309 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: can you take the wheel for a sec? 310 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: I said, sure, I go to take the wheel. 311 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: He drops his shorts full on speedo like my wife's 312 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 2: dad first time I ever met him, really just says, hey, 313 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 2: take the wheel. My wife, I said, hey, you should 314 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 2: have given me some notice that your dad was a 315 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: speedo guy, because I had never seen anybody that I 316 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 2: was with ever being a speedo before. And I guarantee 317 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 2: you my jaw dropped because I'm sitting there trying to 318 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 2: monitor the boat. And later I was like, your dad 319 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: wears speedos and you didn't think, Hey, maybe I should 320 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 2: tell my boyfriend, given that he's going to meet my 321 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: dad for one of the first times ever, that he's 322 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 2: going to be in a speedo out on the boat. 323 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 2: No warning in advance. 324 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: Would you have. 325 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 2: Expected to get a warning in advance? If your future 326 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: father in law was going to be going speedo on 327 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: the boat, I mean, is he European, No, no, he's 328 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 2: an important raised Is he from the Southron? 329 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: Is he a guy on the Mediterranean? 330 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 3: No? No, no. 331 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 5: This I think the rule is if you're wearing a speedo, 332 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 5: it doesn't matter how small, how tight, or how in appropriated. 333 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 5: Is if your name is Jumpaal and you have a 334 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 5: big galoise and you have a big chest hair, you know, 335 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 5: then you're good. Then you're allowed to wear the speedo. 336 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 5: But if you're clay or buck board shorts pretty much shorts. 337 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 2: You know, would be funny for humor purposes, like especially 338 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 2: like an American flag speedo. I don't think that I'm 339 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 2: going to go that look anytime soon, but I felt 340 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 2: as if I deserved the warning that, hey, my fat 341 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 2: your future father in law, big speedo guy, just be 342 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 2: aware so that I didn't just look shocked when suddenly, 343 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 2: next thing you know, he's rocking the banana. I mean, 344 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 2: I will tell you I did get taken to a 345 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 2: dude beach once, and it's a big revelation. With forty 346 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 2: seconds left in the hour, I did not I did 347 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 2: not go nude. I was like, I can't, okay, I'm 348 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 2: not into this. 349 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 5: It was like an optional you go to the nude 350 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 5: beach and stay clothed. There really wasn't very many people 351 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 5: on the beach, so I felt like it didn't really matter. 352 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 5: But I did end up on a beach that was 353 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 5: technically considered to be a nude beach because of private beach. 354 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 6: This was in the continental United States. 355 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: Were they okay? Were they people that you would want 356 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: to see naked naked on the beach? 357 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 6: Nope? 358 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's the big issue with the nude beach. 359 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 2: It's never the people you would like to see naked 360 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 2: that I'll tell you this. There are lots of topless 361 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 2: sun bathers where you live in Miami, and they're oftentimes 362 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 2: very good looking women. I noticed that. I, you know, 363 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 2: I have not I pleaded the fIF plea the fifth. 364 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 2: I have never seen the nude beach that has anybody 365 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 2: attractive on it naked. 366 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 5: We're joined now by the Attorney General of Kentucky, Daniel Cameron. 367 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 5: Mister Attorney General, appreciate you being with us, Sir. 368 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 4: I am honored to be with you all. Thanks for 369 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 4: having me, and grateful for the chance to talk a 370 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 4: little bit about what's going on in Kentucky. 371 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 5: Yes, well, we want to talk to you about that 372 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 5: your upcoming governor's race, how Mitch McConnell could play into things, 373 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 5: and a lot more if I could, though, first or 374 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 5: I wanted to ask you. You've taken some action, filed 375 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 5: some lawsuits even revolving around or dealing with the unwillingness 376 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 5: of the Biden administration to secure the southern border. Could 377 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 5: you just tell everybody what have you been doing on 378 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 5: that front and how do you see this dereliction of 379 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 5: duty at the southern border playing out on your state. 380 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 4: Well, you know, obviously we have made a decision to 381 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 4: get involved on this front in filing lawsuits and demanding 382 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 4: certain actions be taken by the Secretary of State because 383 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 4: it's impacting our people here in Kentucky. We all know 384 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 4: that China is creating fentanyl, at least the components of it. 385 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 4: They're being assembled in Mexico and then they make their 386 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 4: way across the southern border and they impact and kill 387 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 4: families here in Kentucky. In fact, seventy three percent of 388 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 4: the overdose related deaths that we've seen here in Kentucky 389 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 4: are because of fentanyl, and so as the chief prosecutor 390 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 4: and the chief law enforcement officer here in Kentucky, I've 391 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 4: got a responsibility to all of our families to do 392 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 4: everything I can. And that's why I've asked the Secretary 393 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 4: of States in the Biden administration to declare fentanyl a 394 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 4: weapon of mass destruction. To make sure that we label 395 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 4: the cartels out of Mexico foreign terrorist organizations, because again, 396 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 4: we need an approach from the federal government that takes 397 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 4: this seriously, that secures our butt border. He uses every 398 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 4: agency and department of the federal government to fight this 399 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 4: on behalf of our families. 400 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 2: Appreciate you coming on, mister Attorney General. And by the way, 401 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 2: I want everybody listening in the state of Kentucky to 402 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 2: make have no uncertainties about this. There's a major election 403 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 2: happening for y'all in November. Andy Basheer, and this is 404 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 2: just me talking before I ask you a question. Attorney 405 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 2: General Andy Basheer was a disaster during COVID. He doesn't 406 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 2: represent the people of Kentucky. He has been a failure 407 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 2: as a governor. Every single one of y'all listening right now, 408 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 2: all over the great state of Kentucky in the Bluegrass. 409 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 2: You need to be doing everything you can to get 410 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 2: this guy elected who we're talking to right now, because 411 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 2: it matters a lot. And that leads into this question 412 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 2: that I'm going to ask you about Daniel Cameron with 413 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 2: us right now, Attorney General of Kentucky, there is a dispute. 414 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: I know you know Mitch McConnell. Well, I know that 415 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 2: he is a friend and a mentor of yours. He 416 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 2: obviously is over eighty now, and he's had some health 417 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 2: conditions as most people over the age of eighty two. 418 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 2: Kentucky passed a law that effectively said, and you can 419 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong, You're going to be the 420 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 2: expert on this. This is my understanding that in the 421 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 2: event Mitch McConnell were not able to fulfill his duties 422 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 2: as Senator through his term in twenty twenty six, this 423 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 2: Kentucky State legislature would pick three people that they thought 424 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 2: were potential replacements, give those names to the governor. Right 425 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 2: now would be Andy Basheer, and that Basheer would be 426 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 2: obligated to pick one of those three to fulfill the 427 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 2: term of Mitch McConnell, or at least fulfill it till 428 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 2: there was another race. Basher is saying, correct me if 429 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 2: I'm wrong, and lay this out, because I think it's 430 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 2: really important. Basher is saying he doesn't believe that law 431 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 2: is constitutional and is telling Democrats that effectively, he would 432 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 2: appoint a Democrat and challenge this in the courts and 433 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 2: there would be a huge mess here. You, on the 434 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 2: other hand, I imagine, would just if you were in office, 435 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 2: appoint a Republican. This wouldn't be an issue at all. 436 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 2: Why does this matter so much? Am I analyzing it 437 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: correct legally? And isn't this an integral issue for the 438 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 2: people of Kentucky to be involved in? 439 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 4: Clay Man, you hit the nail on the head. I mean, 440 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 4: this is so important. I mean Andy Basheer and the 441 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 4: far left Democrats here in Kentucky have basically said they 442 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 4: are going to disregard, dismiss the law that was passed 443 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 4: by our General Assembly that yes, says that in the 444 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 4: event something were to happen to one of our senators, 445 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 4: then the governor has to essentially pick someone from the 446 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 4: same party. But Andy Basheer said he's not going to 447 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 4: do that basically, and that's a shame and the stakes 448 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 4: are that high. In November, We've got to have a 449 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,959 Speaker 4: governor that will abide by the laws that are passed 450 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 4: by our General Assembly, and that's going to appoint a 451 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 4: Republican to represent Kentucky's values in Washington, d C. We 452 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 4: need to have that maintained in our federal delegation. And 453 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 4: if Andy Basheer gets make this pick, he's going to 454 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 4: disregard the law. He's going to appoint a far left 455 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 4: Democrat to be the next Senator of Kentucky. And like 456 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 4: you said, they enjoy holding things up in court and 457 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 4: trying to litigate something. And while that happens, a Democrat 458 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 4: will be sitting in a Senate seat here in Kentucky. 459 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 4: Look again, that's why this race is so important, because 460 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 4: you know that you know again, if anything happens to 461 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 4: one of our senators, I'm going to appoint a Republican 462 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 4: and we're going to have somebody that reflects our values 463 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 4: in Washington DC. 464 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: To me, this is a no brainer to decide the election. 465 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 2: I want everybody in Kentucky to be listening to this 466 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 2: because what they're going to try to sell is, oh, 467 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 2: we're going to have balanced government. 468 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: I'm not really a Democrat. 469 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 2: But he is saying he will defy the law of 470 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 2: the Kentucky Legislature and he would tie this up in court, 471 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 2: and he would put a Democrat in the Senate. And 472 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 2: as you well know, Daniel Cameron, Attorney General of Kentucky, 473 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 2: who should be the next governor, As you well know, 474 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 2: in a fifty to fifty Senate, which is effectively where 475 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 2: we are, that decision could swing control of the chamber. 476 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 2: I mean, this is a huge deal. I can't believe 477 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 2: it's not a bigger story. 478 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 4: You're exactly right. I mean, it is such an important 479 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 4: part of this race, such an important part of the 480 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 4: November seventh election, and that's why we need to get 481 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 4: as many people as possible to the polls. You know, 482 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 4: right now we see polling that shows that the governor 483 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 4: and I are in a dead heat. We've got to 484 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 4: seal the deal because our kids and our grandkids' futures 485 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 4: are on the line, but also in many ways our 486 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 4: state United States Senate, and so I'm going to make 487 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 4: sure that we have strong representation there again. Certainly don't 488 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 4: want anything to happen to either one of our senators. 489 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 4: I value and respect each both of them. And then 490 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 4: honor to know them and have their support in this campaign. 491 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 4: But we've got to make sure we have a Republican 492 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 4: governor so that we can make sure that we continue 493 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 4: to have Republican leadership in our United States Senate coming 494 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 4: from Kentucky. 495 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 5: Kentucky Attorney General Cameron, appreciate you being with us or 496 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 5: in good luck to you. 497 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 4: Thanks so much. I'm gonna jump off and start reading 498 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,719 Speaker 4: the American Playbook. So thank you all. 499 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I think you'll enjoy it. 500 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 2: I look forward to be Look, I'll put this offer 501 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 2: out there this fall when I'm hanging out and coming 502 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 2: up for a Kentucky game or one of the races 503 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 2: at Keenland. Let me know what I can do to help, 504 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 2: and I'll come to one of your rallies with you. 505 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 4: I appreciate that so much. Guys, Thanks God bless you. 506 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm gonna come hang out. 507 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 6: Have you ever been to you to say I'm going 508 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 6: I want to go to Keenland. I want to go 509 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 6: have fun things at the races too. 510 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 2: By the way, let me just let you sell for 511 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 2: people who have never been to a horse race. I 512 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 2: might have asked you this before, how much fun is it, 513 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 2: Attorney General Daniel Cameron to go watch a horse race 514 00:25:59,440 --> 00:25:59,959 Speaker 2: in Kentucky? 515 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 4: Oh, I mean, there's nothing like it. I mean it's 516 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 4: the most exciting two minutes in two to three minutes 517 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 4: in the world. And man, Buck, we got to get 518 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 4: you here. Man, come on with Clay. We'll have a 519 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 4: good time. Make sure if we go to Keenlan we 520 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 4: do some tailgating as well. We'll catch a football game too. 521 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 4: It'll be a nice weekend. 522 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 5: That sounds fantastic. 523 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 6: Mister Journey General, Thank you so much. We look forward 524 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 6: to seeing you and Clay. 525 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: This is where I. 526 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 6: Admit I have not been to Kentucky before. 527 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: Oh no, I know, I know. 528 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 6: So it needs to happen. This is a needs to 529 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,479 Speaker 6: happen situation. Have you been Have you been to all 530 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 6: fifty states? 531 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 3: No? 532 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: I haven't. 533 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 2: There's still a lot out west I haven't been to, 534 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 2: and I want to go. In fact we have I'm 535 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 2: going to get a trip schedule. I want to get 536 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 2: an RV and hit a bunch of different Western states. 537 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 2: But Buck, what he just mentioned, I would argue, and 538 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,959 Speaker 2: people out in Kentucky can can can take me up 539 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 2: on this if you disagree. The best possible weekend in 540 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 2: Kentucky is they have the overlap of the Keeenland horse Races, 541 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 2: which happened in Xington, beautiful part of the country, Likeston, Kentucky. 542 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 2: They have the horse race and then they have a 543 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 2: lot of times a night football game. So if you 544 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 2: can balance the bourbon and pace yourself, you can go 545 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 2: watch the horse races in the morning and in the 546 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 2: early afternoon, and then you can leave and go watch 547 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 2: a night football game in October when the weather is 548 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 2: beautiful and it is about as good of a Saturday 549 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 2: as you could have anywhere in the country. 550 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the overlap dates are, but that'd 551 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: be a hell of a trip for us to take. 552 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 5: Sounds good, you know, unlike hanging out outside of Miami 553 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 5: right now, where your shirt turns translucent in about thirty 554 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 5: seconds from all the sweat, you know what I mean. 555 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 5: This is different times to be in different parts of 556 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 5: the country at their peak. It sounds like that's a 557 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 5: peak time to be in Kentucky as I'm complaining about 558 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,719 Speaker 5: how hot it is here in South Florida. 559 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 560 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 2: of you hanging out with us. Encourage you to get 561 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 2: out there, go subscribe to the Clay Travis buck Sexton 562 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 2: Show podcast. Lots of cool unique offerings there. Also encourage 563 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 2: you to download the iHeartRadio app and you can grab 564 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 2: it anywhere. 565 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: Buck. 566 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 2: I know there's a lot of talk of negativity out 567 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 2: there about the future and where we are headed. And 568 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 2: I saw this story from the Hill and it is 569 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 2: the political identities of twelfth grade boys, and that is 570 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 2: the percentage identifying as liberal or conservative. Have you seen 571 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 2: this story yet Nope? Okay, so I think you're going 572 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 2: to consider this to be a positive. So they study 573 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 2: this going all the way back to nineteen seventy five. 574 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 2: Let me give you an idea. In nineteen seventy five, 575 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 2: twenty five percent of high school boys considered themselves liberal 576 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 2: and about seventeen percent considered themselves to be conservative. So 577 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 2: there were substantially more liberal twelfth grade boys. And what's 578 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 2: interesting is conservatives. Since nineteen seventy five, conservatives are surging 579 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 2: and hitting all time highs among twelfth grade boys. In fact, 580 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: twenty five percent roughly now consider themselves to be conservative. 581 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: And I thought this was crazy. Liberal continues to tank 582 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: in the. 583 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 2: Last several years, it's now down to about thirteen percent, 584 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 2: so a huge percentage of twelfth grade boys now are 585 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 2: identifying as conservative. And I am fascinated by this because 586 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 2: of course I'm raising three boys right now, but I 587 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 2: also am around them quite a bit, them and their friends, 588 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 2: and it's interesting. I think that boys are overwhelmingly rejected 589 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 2: the woke culture that they are growing up in and 590 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 2: rebelling in particular. 591 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:05,959 Speaker 4: Now. 592 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 2: I don't know what girls are doing right, I'm not 593 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 2: sure what the data would reflect on girls. My inclination 594 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 2: would be that girls have always been more liberal in 595 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 2: the twelfth grade, and women are in general vote more 596 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 2: liberal than men. But this was an encouraging data point 597 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 2: that basically conservatives twelfth graders, again, this is a story 598 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 2: in the Hill, are now setting all time highs every 599 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 2: one of the last few years. And the number that 600 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 2: our liberal is collapsing is that surprise you is encourage you? 601 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 4: Well. 602 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 5: I think that part of the left wing plan has 603 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 5: been to go after more aggressively younger and younger well, 604 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 5: issues that affect younger and younger males, specifically, whether it's 605 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 5: toxic masculinity or also the assault on gender overall. And 606 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 5: I think that there's just a this stuff is in 607 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 5: congruous with nature and with our natural selves. Right, You're 608 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 5: you're a twelfth grade boy. You know, you've gone through puberty. Really, 609 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 5: I mean twelfth grade, you're basically close. 610 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: To being a lot of them can vote. 611 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of them are eighteen. 612 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, go tell an eighteen year old 613 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 5: marine that he's you know, a boy, and you know, 614 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 5: watch your teeth, you know, I mean, eighteen is not 615 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,719 Speaker 5: you know, we're not really talking about young kids here. 616 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 5: But you know, I think part of this is the 617 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 5: aggressive agenda of the left has has just been running 618 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 5: up against the basic feelings that you have as you 619 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 5: become a man, you know, and and the war on 620 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 5: masculinity has become more and more aggressive at a younger age. 621 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 5: And you know, the pop culture is increasingly trying to 622 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 5: undermine that. You know, there is a you know, whether 623 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 5: it's starting with little boys, you know, three four years 624 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 5: old who want to play with trucks and dinosaurs. 625 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 6: I know this from my own little nephew. He doesn't 626 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 6: want to play with princess. He wants to and he picks. 627 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 6: He wants to play with trucks and dinosaurs. 628 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 5: And crash them and make a lot of noise, and 629 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 5: my grand you know, my mom and dad, grandpa and grandma, 630 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 5: they have to run around and chase him, and he's, 631 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 5: you know, a little little crazy man. 632 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 6: And my friends who have girls who are that age, 633 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 6: they say, it's a very different. 634 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 5: Situation that continues, and by the time you're eighteen, unless 635 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 5: you've been so fully indoctrinated, you recognize that what the 636 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 5: Left is pushing is contrary to your basic masculine nature. 637 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 2: I agree with that one hundred percent. I also Buck 638 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 2: would build on it. This makes why Andrew Tate, Joe Rogan, 639 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 2: Jordan Peterson, I think they represent different aspects of the 640 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 2: masculine ID, but why all three of those guys are 641 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 2: so incredibly popular on YouTube. Obviously there's a big gap 642 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 2: between Jordan Peterson and Andrew Tait, but I would say 643 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 2: what connects them is discussing traditional notions of masculinity and 644 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 2: how to be a man. I think that young boys 645 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 2: rising into twelfth grade, when I see this data, are 646 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 2: recognizing that they're being sold a bill of goods and 647 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 2: that much of what they're being told is not real, 648 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 2: and they're rejecting it. I take it as an incredibly 649 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 2: encouraging sign. 650 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 5: I'm encouraged by it too. There's other data out there that, 651 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 5: you know, some college classes, half of the class practically 652 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 5: now says they're LGBTQIA plus and they use terms like 653 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 5: cisgender and everything else. So you know, I don't know 654 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 5: whose data sets are more indicative of where things are going. 655 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, if you believe 656 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 5: boys are boys and girls are girls and there's a 657 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 5: difference between the two, you find yourself becoming more conservative 658 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 5: and right wing over time, and that is to our advantage.