1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Your tunes about drive on Home of the Black and 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back to the Dale Lully 3 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: here with Matt Williamson and Matt Uh. Just looking around 4 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: the internet here and uh, as we always talk about. 5 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: This is list list time of the year. Yeah it is. Um. 6 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: CBS Sports has a ranking here of the top backup quarterbacks. 7 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: We've gone through this before. We have but slights to 8 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: affirm our thoughts on it and go through it again 9 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: and set eyes and now you analyze it that way. 10 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: This one is UH by Cody Benjamin. I've read some 11 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: stuff from Cody in the past. Sometimes he's on, sometimes not. 12 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: I don't agree as much, but yes, right, yeah, his rankings. UM, 13 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: here's how he would rank the number two quarterbacks in 14 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: the NFL. And I mentioned many times I've I've had 15 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: this role with ESPN and it's not an easy one. 16 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,919 Speaker 1: So I feel for him and some guys qualified different 17 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: than others, correct, Chad Henny verse trade lance isn't easy 18 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: to me if a guy hasn't played it down in 19 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: the NFL. Yeah, I can't put him on this list 20 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: based on what he might be. You and I've done 21 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: this a long time and because if you're gonna do that. 22 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: Every number one, all the number one guys should be 23 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: in the top five. Yes, every list I do this 24 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: time of year. Unless my editor totally insists on it, 25 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: I pretty much tell them rookies aren't included. It's like 26 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: ranking NFL head coaches and then putting rookie head coaches 27 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: on there where you think they're going to perform. That's no. 28 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: They should be in their own category and they should 29 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: be off the list. I mean even when I did 30 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: my running back list, I didn't have on there. And 31 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: I'd like to see him play football at this level. First, 32 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: what you did in college means absolutely nothing, and what 33 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: you did as an offensive coordinator means absolutely nothing. Right, 34 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: you've got a totally different group of players. You're a 35 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: new environment, your responsibilities are different. So even in quarterbacks 36 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: is even a better point, because if your lance or 37 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: fields you're drafted to be a starter, you're not a 38 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: true backup quarterback, you know what I mean? The definition 39 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: of backup quarterbacks a little fuzzy there. So his number 40 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: thirty two, back up in the Lake's logan woodside. Okay, 41 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: there's gonna be ten names here. We could probably go 42 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: through pretty quick. That. I think everyone listening will go. 43 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever seen him play or seen 44 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: Logan Woodside. Yeah, yeah, he's a true number two though. 45 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: Who's he for the Titans? Yeah? Okay, uh number three 46 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,839 Speaker 1: odd Titans. Note now I think about it just gets home. 47 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: I guess the Shawan Kaiser's and really good for them 48 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: all of a sudden. So maybe there may be there's 49 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: a change in place. Needless to say, getting better than 50 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: Logan Woodside probably isn't a real difficult bar to get over. 51 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: A number thirty, number thirty two, number thirty one James 52 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: Morgan with the Jets. They have three quarterbacks at camp 53 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: and none of them has completed thrown in the NFL 54 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: pass I mean a bit of an issue. I don't 55 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: know that would have kept Flacco, but had somebody that's played, 56 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: somebody to talk to your young quarterback, hey, Zach, what 57 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: do you see there? Or to him to say, hey, 58 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: so and so, what did you see? The right? I 59 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: mean the Josh McCown, the end of career Batch left 60 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: Wich type. I mean, would sure he's only you didn't 61 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: have cap space to do it too right, I mean, 62 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be a great player but somebody 63 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: that's played. And what if Wilson's horrible, right, I mean 64 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: married to him. I mean the whole two of Fitzpatrick's 65 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: situation wasn't real clean last year, but it might have 66 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: done two of some good. We weren't there. At least 67 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: you had the guy around they could play. You know, 68 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: they're sitting in the meeting rooms. Okay, here's this is? Yeah, 69 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: when when they show this, that means they're gonna do 70 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: this and that kind of stuff. Not to mention if 71 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: the kid's brains an ankle when you gotta play James Morgan, 72 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Right? And then should we 73 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: take a quarterback or should we take this road? Number 74 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: thirty Cooper Rush? Yeah, yeah, pretty rough. Yeah, Dallas still right? 75 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: They Adalton at least at least they recognized the problem 76 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: a year ago. They couldn't afford it this year after 77 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: paying dock number twenty nine Tim Boyle with the Lions. 78 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: I'm not really familiar with his work. I was just 79 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: thinking about this though. You know how Dallas last year 80 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,119 Speaker 1: I hadn't paid Dak yet. They gave Dalton good money 81 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: and couldn't do it again after paying back a huge contract. 82 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: The Steelers over the years, the Gradkowskis and batches and left, 83 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: which those guys don't play for free. I mean they 84 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: nor disposition. Even when Ben was one of the highest paid, 85 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: when he was on the highest paid quarterbacks on the league, 86 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: they always had a guy who was a legitimate starter 87 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: somewhere else, had had done it, had done it right right, 88 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: smart guys, you know, like Bruce's in the media, batches 89 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: in the media left, which might be a head coach soon, 90 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: you know, right, yeah, number Trace McSorley with the Ravens. 91 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: This is the fly in the ointment for the ointment 92 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: for the Ravens Like RG three seemed like a good 93 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: backup maybe two or three years ago. Similar style, former 94 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: first round pick. High expectations like what's the what's the 95 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: Ravens legiti, what's their chance of winning three out of 96 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: five games? If if Trace McSorley has to start five 97 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: games for them this year? Little none? Yeah, yeah, I 98 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: mean a lot of teams can say that, Well, if 99 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: we lose Aaron Rodgers our league shot, season shot. Let's 100 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: put this Okay, so right now, Mason Rudolph as a 101 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: five and four career record and it starts you Trace 102 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: mcsurely had to start nine games for the Ravens this year. 103 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: Do they go five and four? No? I don't think. Yeah, 104 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: if they're lucky, depending on who they play, see, I wonder. 105 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: I guess you can make both cases. Is okay? He's 106 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: a Taysom Hill, run like a badman. I don't care 107 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: if he gets hurt. Frankly, you know, so if I 108 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: have to play two games with them, he's gonna play 109 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: really aggressively and we're gonna run the ball. I'll never 110 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: to have him throw. I'll never have him throw. Yeah, 111 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: we better in our defense, better keep us in every game. Okay, 112 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: But is it that hard to find a fifth round 113 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: athletic quarterback? Almost every year? And three of them and 114 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: they didn't do it, didn't do it this year, and 115 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: they've had a lot of picks lately to do it. 116 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: They could. They could easily have found you know, the 117 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: chief Kellen Mond or somebody in this draft. You know, uh, 118 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: number twenty seven A J. McCarron with the Falcons. He's 119 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: starting to become the definition of the lifer. Yeah, that's 120 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: gonna tire with a lot of mon Which wasn't that 121 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: which wasn't that great? To begin with him. Scott Mitchell 122 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: was like the first guy I remember doing that, but 123 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: I mean, actually he became a starter flopped. I don't 124 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: know how much longer he lasted after that. Yeah, AJ McCarron, Yeah, 125 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: number I might have a J. McCarron ahead of this guy. 126 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: Number twenty six, Geno Smith with the Seahawks. Yeah, he's done. 127 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: What has he ever done? Neither have he ever done? 128 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: Where's his high moments? Yeah? It's nothing there that's bad. 129 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: I'm not even sure he's super athletic anymore, or whoever was. 130 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: I mean, he was an okay athlete. He's not gonna 131 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: run around make a ton of plays. Number twenty five 132 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: p J Walker with the Paper or at the Panthers, 133 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: surprising Will Greer's not even in the mix anymore? What 134 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: happened to him? He's getting Christian Hackenburg, Yeah he is. 135 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: PJ Walker was good in that. Christian Hackever was what 136 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: second round draft pick? Early second round? Um, he had 137 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: every opportunity, he had chances. Yeah, Uh, Mason Rudolf's a 138 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: better player than that, and you got him in the 139 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: third round. Oh yeah, Mason's had a better career than Hackenburg. 140 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: Already already done, done deal right. Number twenty four Blaine 141 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: Gabbert with the Buccaneers. It makes me wonder, like a 142 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: Rosen could he last forever to and do nothing like? 143 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess Rosa never got a lot of starts. 144 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: But Gabbert, he's gonna be in this league for the 145 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: next three or four years probably he's Yeah, some of 146 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 1: these guys are gonna survive eight year careers because they 147 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: were a first round packing make a lot of money, 148 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: and make a lot of money. You know, a minimum 149 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: to three million a year is a backup quarterback. Let 150 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 1: alone is good rookie contract. Never did anything, never did 151 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: never did a thing. But now he've had it. I 152 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: mean he did negative things. Yeah, they were all bad. 153 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: Speaking of which good and bad. Number twenty three is 154 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco with the Eagles. So I get that. I 155 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: would I would have him higher. I would look at 156 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: this so as the scheme fit. I think it's a 157 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: really it's an awful scheme fit. Keep him in New 158 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: York with the Jets, or how do you have Joe 159 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: Flacco backing up one of the most mobile quarterbacks in 160 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: the league. Right? It makes no sense. It's not much 161 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: different than when him and Lamar were teammates. Unless you're 162 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 1: hoping that Joe Flacco can help teach Jalen Hurts to 163 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: be a better pocket passer. That's the only that's the 164 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: only way that works, right I wonder. I mean again, 165 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: I recruited him. He grew up in Delaware. Maybe he 166 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: want just want to be in that area of the 167 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: country and calls him up and his family can drive 168 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: the games or you know they're going to drive to 169 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: see him sit on the bench. That doesn't mean we 170 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: want you, though, you know what I mean. They get 171 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 1: to see him a whole his whole career in Baltimore 172 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: right there. I have mixed feelings about it, but more 173 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: often than not, I am very much on the same 174 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: page of your backup and and UH starters should resemble. 175 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: We should have some similarity, especially if the backups the 176 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: old guy. Yeah, you know, if it's the other way around, okay, 177 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: you know, like maybe if it's a guy you drafted 178 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: to be the picture, that doesn't matter. If the Patriots, 179 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: they like Mac Jones, are drafting him, they know they 180 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: have an athletic guy in front of him. But it's 181 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: the flat of Lamar Jackson thing, even though they you know, 182 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: they had Um Flack in place. They drafted Lamar with 183 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: a thought that, Okay, he's gonna be the starter sooner 184 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: rather than later. So they got a lot of credit 185 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 1: for making a big change. Well, I guarantee as soon 186 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: as they drafted Lamar, Okay, what are we gonna do 187 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: here if he becomes the starter? Oh, we gotta change everything. 188 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: We've gotta change everything. So let's start working on that now. Yes, 189 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: they didn't just do that mid season, you know, the 190 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: week before he went to play his first game and go, okay, 191 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: we gotta redesigned a whole new offense for Lamar Jackson. 192 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: I mean they used the first round pick on a quarterback. Yeah, 193 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 1: that's all you need know. He was the first round 194 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 1: pick on the quarterback. And Joe was not the player 195 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: he was in the Super Bowl years, and they had 196 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: Flacco at his best, had to be supported by a 197 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: lot around him, and because of his contract, they lost 198 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: more than they gained almost every year, you know, and 199 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: quickly realized that this guy's got a ceiling number. Twenty two. 200 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: Brandon Allen with the Bengals. I don't know a ton 201 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: about him, but he's not horrible. He's not horrible. Let's 202 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: held probably for me to or you know what I mean. 203 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: Number twenty one, the great John Woolford with the Rams. 204 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I think he just benefited from not being 205 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: Jared Goff last year, but being healthy and being healthy 206 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: that was being healthy. Apparently they like him at least 207 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: a little. Number twenty with no career snaps Jacobieson with 208 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: the Colts. I don't know what you're basing that off of. 209 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: He has to be on the list, though, he's gotta 210 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: be on the list because he's the primary backup. But 211 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: he's round draft pick, had no preseason last year. He 212 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: could be the worst guy on this list for all 213 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 1: we know, or he might be a future start. He 214 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 1: might be a future I mean, he's a perfect case. 215 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: When we talked about this with some Steelers, they know 216 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: a lot more about him than any of us. We 217 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: know what we saw in college, and maybe a blurb 218 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: here and there that a beat reporter said boy threw 219 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: the ball well in practice today or something, But he's 220 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: never played a snap against an NFL team. Haven't seen him. No. 221 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: Number nineteen Taylor Heineke with Washington. I probably have him higher. 222 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a real small sample size last year, 223 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: but he plays hard. I mean he looks like a 224 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: lifer case Keenum back up to me. Speaking of which, 225 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: Number eighteen is Chase Daniel with the Chargers. Oh man, 226 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: you're talking about a good gig, kind of makes five 227 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: million a year every year and never plays, never has 228 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 1: to play, and and it's always in the band. But 229 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: he's an off season like this is one of the 230 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: guys Steeler fans, one of the Steelers to sign a 231 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: couple of years ago to back up end Roll. I'm 232 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: not even sure if he's good or bad. I have 233 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: no idea, right right, people seem to think that he 234 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: adequate two. I know that's what he is. There's no 235 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: upside there, Oh no, no, no, absolutely not. And he 236 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: doesn't even have like the the left witch backs Batch 237 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: Gradkowski resume on the field. I think doesn't play much 238 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: of the preseason. Speaking with care, they play a young 239 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: Number seventeen is Colt McCoy with the Cardinals. Similar, Yeah, 240 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: like the same guy, they're the same. Number sixteen is 241 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: Mike Lennon with the Giants. Another one starting to hanging 242 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:23,719 Speaker 1: around for a while, but we don't know, is I 243 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: keep using the Bruce left, which you know batch conversation. 244 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: Are those type of guys great in the room if 245 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: they are? I get it. You know, the three the 246 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: Steelers had were better than those three we just mentioned 247 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: and had higher points throughout their career and probably more 248 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: talent too. But there is some value, you know. Would 249 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: Glennon be helpful to Zach Wilson as opposed to having 250 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: three rookies in the room. Maybe I just don't know. 251 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: Mike Glennon, well, I mean I don't know. Maybe he 252 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: could be the backup for the Jets and the Giants. 253 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: He could just stay at the meadow Lands. Whoever's playing 254 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: at the meadow Lands that week. Mike Lennon's the backup. 255 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: We don't don't you play anyway? These are every down quarterback, 256 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: like the backup quarterback. Number fifteen is Mason Rudolph. Okay, 257 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: I don't have to add much to it when we 258 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: could talk about who's above them and should they be? Well, 259 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: Number fourteen is Chad Henny. Give me my pick between 260 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph and Chad Henny, and I'm taking Mason Rudolph 261 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, I mean he's Chad Henny's thirty six. 262 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: He's one of the guys I recruited. I mean that 263 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: means he's old and he's nothing like Patrick Mahomes. No, no, 264 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: not at all, would be Yeah, but I bet he 265 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: has value in that regard the match shob at the 266 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: end of his career, guys, the Josh McCollen types. That 267 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: doesn't mean he's good at football. Now here's where this 268 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: thing kind of goes off the rails from a little 269 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: bit from me. Number thirteen. He is Kellen Monde. And 270 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: here's what he says, it's too high for a rookie. 271 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: We bet Pittsburgh in Kansas City wouldn't mind taking a 272 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: flyer here. Well, I think it would have, because either 273 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: one of them could have taken Kellen mond and then 274 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: he was like about a third fourth round draft pick 275 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: higher than that. Thank he was the three. I think 276 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: he was the three, and he went a little earlier. 277 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: And I thought Mond enters the NFL with lots of 278 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: starting experience from his Texas and Ys. But more importantly, 279 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: he's got a rocket arm and quick feet to give 280 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: Minnesota some juice. He may be the starter two or 281 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: three years he could have a problem with but he's 282 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: not played it down in the NFL. He shouldn't be 283 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: on this list, right as as any of these rookies 284 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: were gonna mention, should not be on this list because 285 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: it's frankly, it's not fair to it's not fair. It's 286 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: not fair to the rookie. It's just not I don't 287 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: know why he mentions Kansas City, like, of course Kansas 288 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: City would trade Chad Henny straight up for Kellen Mont 289 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: because he's a hundred years old with the Steelers, trade 290 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: Rudolph straight up for Kellen Mond. I might, I might, 291 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: But now you're going to your your starting we're starting 292 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: the learning process all over again. Oh yeah, it's just 293 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: the it's the burden of Bush. It's not the one 294 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: in the hand, you know. But I think it's a conversation. 295 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: It's a conversation. Yeah, um, but but nothing about him. 296 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: I can't rank him. Number twelve, Mitchell Robiski. This is 297 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: a situation where the backup, because he's with the Bills now, 298 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: the backups game closely mirrors the starter. Yeah he's miklu Bualtra. Yeah, 299 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: you know right, he looks similar and he throws the 300 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: ball as hard. He's Josh Allen light Yeah, that makes 301 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: so much sense to me. You know, he could sit 302 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: there and learn for a year or two in a 303 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: Winston like man, or possibly come in and play. You 304 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: don't have to tear that, you don't have to blow 305 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: your offense, right. Could he be a starter a year 306 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: from now if he gets a stint of it, gets 307 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: a month when Alan sprains an ankle and looks good, 308 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: somebody wants to make him a starter. Or could he 309 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: be the Glennon and or or the blame Gabbert you know, 310 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: I mean the form or first round pick that just 311 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: lasts forever and we never hear from again. Really, Yeah, 312 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: could could go either way with that. One Number eleven 313 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: is Taysom Hill might be the starter for one reas thing. 314 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: I don't think Taysom Hill is a good quarterback. I 315 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: think he's good at football. Yeah, I think he's a 316 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 1: good football player, but I don't if you had to 317 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: line up with him and win on a consistent basis. 318 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: I know I know that that they've done it. Yeah, 319 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: but he's not for me. I think Sean Payton's a 320 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: really really good coach and especially on offensive mind and 321 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: I think there's stats that bear out that they average 322 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: more yards per snap when hit Hills on the field 323 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: than they don't. But if i'm the Falcons Panthers box, 324 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: I'd love them to pick Taysom Hill as their starting quarterback, 325 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: even over Winston. You know what I mean. Okay, there's 326 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: so much against you for sixty snaps. I think they're 327 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: just easier to play against it. Yeah, I think their 328 00:17:54,200 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: margin for error um defensively goes way down. And they 329 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: don't have the defense. You know, they don't have that 330 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: all the stars that they used to. I mean, they're 331 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: not as as talented as they were. No, agree, I 332 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: mean I think that I think he would be very 333 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: much exposed as a sixty snap game player. You know, 334 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: when it's six to ten. Okay, it's the curveball. I 335 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: know people looked at what he did last year and said, well, 336 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: look he you know after he had it was an 337 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: okay game, his first start, they won the game. Well 338 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: there's a little bit of a surprise factor there. What 339 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: are they going to do with with Taysom Hill. Yeah, 340 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: the more he played, the more he got exposed. You 341 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: give me a couple of game tapes. I'm pretty sure. 342 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: Don't quote me, but before last year, I think he 343 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: attempted eleven passes in his NFL career. I'm looking it 344 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: up now, yeah, I mean it's a ridiculously not low number. 345 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: So the jury was still out on what exactly is 346 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 1: he how much would they throw if he was the 347 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: truth starter he was. He was three for seven in 348 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen. He was three for six in twenty nineteen. 349 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: UM he was last season they went three in one 350 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: with him as a starter thirteen attempts in his career 351 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: before last year. UM. But he also uh, he did complete. 352 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: Give him credit seventy two point seven percent of his throws, 353 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: but they were not not not not high. No, no, no, 354 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: I mean I always do that m a dot versus 355 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: completion percentage thing, and the Saints are always at the 356 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: bottom of a dot. I mean they don't. It's not 357 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: a deep pass. Even when Winston played here is like okay, 358 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: So his first game they beat they beat Atlanta first 359 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: of all, bad defense. He was eighteen and twenty three 360 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: two thirty three yards, no touchdowns, no interceptions, but he 361 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: was sacked three times. His second game against Denver, they 362 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: won the game thirty one two three great okay. He 363 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: was nine a sixteen for seventy eight yards. That was 364 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: That was the game. Quarterback, that was the game. Denver 365 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: didn't have a quarterback. Taysom Hill was easily the best 366 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: quarterback in the game. Oh yeah, I mean if you 367 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: grabbed I don't know, Pitts starting quarterback, I think the 368 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: Saints win that game. You mean the Broncos. Saints beat 369 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: the Broncos. And if you take Taysom Hill out for 370 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: the same okay, go draft. Yeah you know someone out 371 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: of the MAC that's not a big time prospect. Again, 372 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,959 Speaker 1: nine for six team for seventy eight yards in an interception. 373 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: They did not win that game because of him. They 374 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: won the game because the other team couldn't complete a pass. 375 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: I mean they probably could told tastem Ill don't throw 376 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: the ball ever this game and you still win. Yeah, 377 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: that one doesn't count. I'm sorry. If the opponent doesn't 378 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: have a quarterback does his third start, It's like playing 379 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: the Penguins without his third start. He beat the Falcons again. 380 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: Two of his three starts were against the Falcons. He 381 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: must note on the Falcons they're about the most predictable 382 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 1: defense in the entire league too. I don't know if 383 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: he's smart dumb how he reads coverages, but you're getting 384 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 1: cover three over and over and over from Atlanta. He 385 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: was thirty evan for two and two yards uh, two touchdowns, 386 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: no interceptions his four start. His last start came against 387 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: the Eagles and he lost that game thirty eight, so 388 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: not a bad completion percentage yards, two touchdowns in an interception, 389 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: got sacks five times behind a good the best defensive 390 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: line league his in his and his four games he 391 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: got sacked. He got sacked thirteen times and four starts, 392 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: which I'm sure is going to be a trend. Because 393 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: he is a runaround guy. He doesn't known enough unless 394 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: he's something special, we don't know. He doesn't have the 395 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: experience to have the pocket presence. He's old, too older 396 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: than what you think. Yeah, thirty issue, he's thirty. Yeah, 397 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: and you hear rumblings they think he's the next Steve Young. 398 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: Why because he went to by right and he runs well, 399 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, I I get it there. 400 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,479 Speaker 1: He's he's he is a football player. There's no if 401 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: fans or butts about he should be the potter's personal 402 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: protect right and you know, a return guy and if 403 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 1: they want to use them a couple of times a game, 404 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: I thought one of the dumbest things that they always 405 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 1: did was to take Drew Brees off the field and 406 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: bring Taysom Hill in, Like, what are you doing? Says thanks, Yeah, 407 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: you get a Hall of fame if you remember the 408 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: game they played against the Steelers down there a b 409 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: abs last game, they bring Taysom Hill in to throw 410 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: fifty or bomb into the end zone that got intercepted 411 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: by Sean Davis. Um. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, 412 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: if you don't trust Winston and you're gonna implement Taysom 413 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: Hill here and there, fine, But if you Drew Brees 414 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: at his prime and you're gonna put this guy taking 415 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: any snabs, not fine. I don't agree. I just don't 416 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 1: agree with it. But I think we'd all agree if 417 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: he played in sixteen games, seventeen games as a starter, 418 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: it would he would not be hind his list, it 419 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 1: would not be I think after that we would all agree. 420 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 1: Number ten Gardner Minshew jam I believer there. I think 421 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: I always say this about Minshew. I think he will 422 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: have a Ryan Yeah, and that's a compliment, you know, 423 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that. I think he's good enough to 424 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: start games. I think he'd come off the bench and 425 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: Spike a team. I don't think he's just a cute 426 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: story in George or whatever. You know. Funny look at 427 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: number nine is another one of the rookies. I just 428 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,959 Speaker 1: can't put him there. Mac Jones, I don't wan to comment. 429 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: I mean like I would trade Rudolf for any of 430 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: the first round rookies. Um, if and if my editor 431 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: said you have to put the rookies on the list, okay, 432 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: but it's almost like Hoyer should be on the list 433 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: or Stidium should be on the list, and instead, you know, 434 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: because some at some point the season, Mac Jones probably 435 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: gonna be the starter, if if not from day one, 436 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: if not from day one at the latest, to start 437 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: next year. I mean he's drafted to be the starter, right, 438 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: He's not drafted to said be a backup. He's not 439 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: a backup. Number eight is Marcus Mariotta. That would one, Yeah, 440 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: that's that's he's what he is now. Yeah, he may 441 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: get another shot as a starter. Um. I like him still, 442 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: but he's a backup at this point and a good one. 443 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: Number seven on his list is Jordan's love. It's it's 444 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: it's very much just like easton the Eastern argument yeah, 445 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: except this guy's first round. He had no there was 446 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: no preseason last year. None of us have seen take 447 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: a snap as a pack, so you can't change. I 448 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: guess he has to be on the list because he's 449 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: not a rookie and he was the pick in the draft. 450 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: Teams passed on him as a first round quarterback and 451 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: his quarterback starved league. I don't I mean, I think 452 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,959 Speaker 1: he has to be. It's an anomaly because of COVID. 453 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: But Easton and Love have to be on the list. 454 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: But they're no different than Fields or Lance or you know, 455 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: Mond number six. And this guy's again another career back 456 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: up that this is the Byron Leftwich. That's Charlie Batch. Yeah, 457 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor, that good one, and he's probably going to 458 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: be the starter. So probably, but it doesn't even really 459 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: more right. He wouldn't be obviously where they want to 460 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: assign him. He held on the Ford for Herbert well enough, 461 00:24:55,200 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: you know, until they had Field sabotage them with a needle. 462 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: But he's had a good career. Yeah yeah, I mean, 463 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: you're perfectly happy if he's your better than a peer 464 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: backup number five case Keenum, I might rather have Taylor 465 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 1: in terms of his career. Um. But Keenum is a 466 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: perfect example to thirty three years old. He is what 467 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: he is, Shanahan system. I'm sure he can teach it well, 468 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: you know. And he had a good year or two. 469 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: I mean he had a really good year of Minnesota. 470 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: The one time, the one time, the one time. That one. 471 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 1: That's the thing too, is then he got paid by 472 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: Washington and it was not good the next year. I mean, 473 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: some good quarterbacks Flacco, Eli, they put a folds. I'm 474 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: sure he's good. They put a stretch together whenever all 475 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: eyes are on them and you think they're really good. 476 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: But it's hard to do it for twelve years, fifteen years, 477 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: you know. And Keenum, to me, the full the fullest 478 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: thing is very reminiscent to me of like Jeff hoss Stetler. Yeah, 479 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: you know, he caught lightning in a bottle. One year, 480 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: you win a Super Bowl, everybody thinks, oh he's good 481 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: right right now, he should be starting somewhere. And Flacco 482 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: and Eli are better than that. But they had their 483 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: best four or five games when it mattered most great. 484 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: You know that that there's something to that. But even Keenum, 485 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: I was saying with him, is he had a good 486 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: sixteen games season with the Vikings. Sixteen games isn't that much. 487 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: You know, if a hitter goes on a sixteen game 488 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: hitting streak, he may still end up the season or 489 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: his careers a two fifty hitter. Right, Yeah, it's get 490 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: get off for a little while. Number four one of 491 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: your personal favorites, Jacobi Prisette. I do likes a little 492 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: surprises that high. Brissette versus Mariotta would be a conversation 493 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: for media, good players that we may not have seen 494 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: the best of him yet. Well, I think you know, 495 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: if if you if you take the rookies off this list, yeah, 496 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: it's much more representative of where these guys probably should 497 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 1: be and bring back the Steelers. Those are the guys 498 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: I would take over. Rudolphe Mariotta, Prisett, you know right, 499 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: there's stuff there. Number three, Teddy Bridgewater, He's not my 500 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: cup of tea. He's cup of tea. But if he's 501 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: your number two, you know, like, I'm not gonna kill you. 502 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: Two thousand eighteen Steelers could have used Teddy Bridgewater and 503 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: um yeah yeah the night they probably win two more 504 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: games with them. He's not my cup of Tea at all, 505 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, and then his number two he really 506 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: copped out here. He's got justin Fields at two, tree 507 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: Lance at number one. Yeah, that's coping out. You should 508 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: and quite frankly, I would have Fields ahead of Lance 509 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 1: because I liked to make Fields better. And you know, 510 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: he I'm not sure if he copped out on this 511 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: on part of Perverse or not, but the first round 512 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 1: backups he just listed in order to with they were 513 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 1: drafted right, so fair enough. I mean I would have 514 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: mac Jones behind both those two as well to really 515 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: do it right. He should have Foals on there and Rosen. 516 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,239 Speaker 1: I guess he's the three in in San fran right now. 517 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: Just don't count the rookies or a fewtrell Even the 518 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: same thing with Bridgewater, like you should have Bridgewater slash right, 519 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: Who's who's gonna be the starter? I don't know. And 520 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: Locke might have been my third guy too, or my 521 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: best backup, you know, because at least know what he is. Yeah, 522 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: so it's a tough extra. So if you just look 523 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: at the veteran guys, it's Bridgewater for set keenum Taylor. However, 524 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: you want to count Jordan's love, I mean I guess 525 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 1: he's a veteran. Now let's call him though unknown Mariota Gardner, 526 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: Minshew Taysom, Hill, Trabinsky, Henny, and then Rudolph. Okay, I 527 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: would trade Rudolph for any of those. Well, I wouldn't 528 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: trade him for Tyro Taylor. I would on Sunday at 529 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: one if I needed him to dress, but not for 530 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: future and whatnot. Certainly not Henny. Would you trade him 531 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: straight up for Trabisky? That's a good question. I mean, 532 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: Steels could have signed Trabinsky this offseason. I mean, the 533 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: cabinet was a little full at the time, and you 534 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: knew Ben was I'm back, but I'd consider it. Mitch 535 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: was pretty bad. He was pretty bad, I mean, but 536 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: a year removed. I mean, what's he you know, Let's 537 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: say he gets into a couple of games this year 538 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: for the Bills and looks okay, good situation, has a 539 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: good preseason, doesn't play at all in the regular season. 540 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: He could he when you know Jamis Winston similarities, you 541 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: know that maybe if he goes and sits for a while. 542 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: Guy he was forced to play right away. He's another 543 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: one like Haskins that played very little in college too. 544 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: I mean it probably should have sat with this whole 545 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: rookie year and learned every quarterback is different. Mariota is 546 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: an interesting I there's talent there. There's a lot of 547 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: talent there. How old is he though? At this point? 548 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: I mean like I'm a Winston guy or Mariotta guy, 549 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: and I'd love him to be somewhere in the steel 550 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: organization right now just to see. But like, if Ben leaves, 551 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: it's not like I'm just handing at the Mariota. Unless 552 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: he plays sixteen awesome games, he would be a guy 553 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: that you would sign to compete with rut Yeah right, right, right, Yeah. 554 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: I don't know his books written, but he's hard to 555 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: invest in right now. Yeah, absolutely, I agree, But that 556 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: is going to do it for the show. So for 557 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: my partner Matt Williamson, for Jacob Brect here on site, 558 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lilly. We thank you for listening to this 559 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: edition of the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.