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Speaker 1: all right, the Packers beat the Commanders, Oh Joe, twenty
Speaker 1: seven eighteen.
Speaker 2: Green Bay moved to two and Oh.
Speaker 1: The Packers have now beaten TWOFC to NFC East contending,
Speaker 1: well the two NFC contending teams and back to back weeks.
Speaker 2: O Joe, what did you make of this ball game?
Speaker 1: Jordan Love was nineteen to thirty one two nine two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, no interceptions. Jaye Daniel was twenty four of
Speaker 1: forty two two hundred yards, two touchdowns, nor in exceptions.
Speaker 1: But he was hounded all night long, Yes, pressuring them relentlessly,
Speaker 1: and they took him down four times. The Commanders were
Speaker 1: unable to get a running game going on show. They
Speaker 1: had nineteen rush of temps fifty one yards. They took
Speaker 1: the running game away, and they unleashed the hounds on
Speaker 1: jayde and Daniels and they win the ball game. Twenty
Speaker 1: seven eighteen. What did you like about what you saw from.
Speaker 3: The pack Listen from the Packers everything. Obviously, Michael Parson
Speaker 3: was the story. Jordan Love and those receivers were the
Speaker 3: story there would be heard about leading up to this game.
Speaker 3: But to me, the back end, the back end defensive
Speaker 3: for the Packers, Xavier McKinney, brother Nixon on the one side,
Speaker 3: they were to me the most surprising, which popped out
Speaker 3: on film, which is which is one of the reasons
Speaker 3: why I think the Packers are gonna go very far
Speaker 3: this year, not only into the playoffs, but make that
Speaker 3: running in the NFC to contend for that Super Bowl championship. Uncle,
Speaker 3: this is what the Packers haven't started two to zero
Speaker 3: since well, I think twenty.
Speaker 4: Twenty if I'm not mistaken, and they look phenomenal.
Speaker 3: Not just on the offense and Jordan Love list the
Speaker 3: receivers did exactly what we expect him to do. I'm
Speaker 3: hoping Jayden Reid is okay. I think his collar bone
Speaker 3: he might have fractured his color.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can tell the.
Speaker 3: Way he failed and they put that weight on it. Yep,
Speaker 3: you already know. But everybody else stepped up. Everybody else
Speaker 3: stepped up offensively. Jordan love Uh did this thing. Josh
Speaker 3: Jacobs did his thing. But that back in, that back
Speaker 3: in for the Packers, obviously not having to the poses
Speaker 3: and the threats that the Washington Commanders did have were
Speaker 3: Nuther five. They were Nuther five because they're back in
Speaker 3: played extremely well. They sitting on they sitting on routes,
Speaker 3: sitting on plays. Normally that another team, you're not sitting
Speaker 3: on them where they.
Speaker 1: Know they don't have to play, they don't have to
Speaker 1: cover long because they know the pressure is gonna come.
Speaker 1: So they know what Rashaan Garrett, they know what Van Nest,
Speaker 1: they know what Michael Parkson, they know what those guys
Speaker 1: Wyatt and all those guys. It's going to generate a
Speaker 1: pass rush and we don't have to hold up long.
Speaker 1: So hey, until they show if they can hold up,
Speaker 1: there's a chance we get a double move. Okay, but
Speaker 1: were sitting on every statele Hey, we're gonna stand. We're
Speaker 1: gonna stand back here, and we don't believe you have
Speaker 1: time to run by us. Right, So if you run
Speaker 1: by us, ay the coase, youre gonna say, that's on me,
Speaker 1: So you'll have to back up' gonna play them, have.
Speaker 2: To play them a little bit more, honestly.
Speaker 1: But when you got that kind of relentless pressure, and
Speaker 1: the only thing that really saved them a lot tonight
Speaker 1: because Jade Daniel does have legs. Because they were coming,
Speaker 1: he did not have a whole lot of time to
Speaker 1: throw the football. And once you neutralize that run, now
Speaker 1: you've made the Commanders one dimensional. Once you make a
Speaker 1: team the one dimensional, now they're at your mercy because
Speaker 1: guess what, we already know you can't run it when
Speaker 1: you want to. We control the terms of disagreement, and
Speaker 1: the terms is you're gonna have to throw.
Speaker 2: We know you have to throw, and we're coming to
Speaker 2: get you. Yeah.
Speaker 3: There were two plays where the defensive back brother Nixon
Speaker 3: for the for the Green Bay Packers that stuck out
Speaker 3: to me on film playing all he was playing off
Speaker 3: a seven, he did his three step breed. He's not
Speaker 3: even looking at it. He's not even looking at receiver
Speaker 3: receivers coming off full speed. His eyes locked it on
Speaker 3: Jayden Dale's three steps went, those eyes shifted back to
Speaker 3: the receiver, and he stayed so fundamentally sound. He didn't
Speaker 3: panic and his pedal never came out of his pedal.
Speaker 2: Dude ran.
Speaker 3: The dude tried to run a stop route. Man, he
Speaker 3: broke on that. It almost got picked going the other way.
Speaker 3: Then he came back later on in the game. They say, Okay,
Speaker 3: we see what you're trying to do. We're gonna study
Speaker 3: you now. Since you saw aggressive and you're jumping everything short.
Speaker 3: They tried to pump him. He stabbed just a little
Speaker 3: bit just to throw the timing off a little bit. Speed, turned,
Speaker 3: got right back, got right back in the hip side,
Speaker 3: knocked the ball down. Those two plays to me, she
Speaker 3: stuck out tremendously for me because I understand how difficult
Speaker 3: it is to transition like that as a dB and
Speaker 3: having that eye discipline and being technically sound and savvy,
Speaker 3: being patient to be able to do whatever I saw
Speaker 3: the night those two plays is easy to do in
Speaker 3: but seeing him execute it any game, knowing that the
Speaker 3: pressure is gonna get there man, hands down.
Speaker 4: That backing to me for the Packers stuck out on film.
Speaker 2: Back to back weeks.
Speaker 1: Last week they last allowed two hundred and forty six
Speaker 1: yards to the Detroit Lions fewer than two hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty yards to the Washington Commanders. That's back to back weeks.
Speaker 1: That's the first two games of the season since nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety five. Michael Parsons generated the team high eight pressures.
Speaker 1: He had a half a sack on thirty seven pass
Speaker 1: rush attempts in the second game with the Packers.
Speaker 2: Six of partons pressures came in the second half.
Speaker 1: Look, he's an edge guy, you know, And I understand
Speaker 1: they got a lot of edge guys, and so you're
Speaker 1: gonna have sometimes guys are gonna have to line up
Speaker 1: inside and it's all congested in there.
Speaker 2: But he needs to be in space.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well he can.
Speaker 1: He can use that quickness, he can use that ability
Speaker 1: to move and bend those edges. I saw the thing
Speaker 1: that would showing kind of show like a DT at
Speaker 1: a forty degree angle Michael Parks at a forty two
Speaker 1: degree angle. Both can bend the edges. But I think
Speaker 1: that's the that's the thing is O Joe, You're you're right.
Speaker 1: That back end looked really good, but when you get
Speaker 1: that kind of push up front, you ain't got a
Speaker 1: hole up long, right, you ain't got the whole up long.
Speaker 1: Craft had an unbelievable job at the tight end position.
Speaker 1: He had one hundred and twenty four yards. The most
Speaker 1: sense Richard Rodgers are Week thirteen, twenty fifteen against Detroit.
Speaker 1: That was the miracle at in Motown, the Hall of
Speaker 1: Merry game, O Joe. They've been losing the whole game,
Speaker 1: and then Aaron Rodgers rolls and he Richard Rodgers, plucks
Speaker 1: the hell Mary.
Speaker 2: But defensively, there's nothing not to like.
Speaker 1: Look, he was George Love. He was laid on one throw.
Speaker 1: He shouldn't have touched another touch down early in the
Speaker 1: ball game.
Speaker 2: He just late.
Speaker 3: Oh to Matthew Golden, the one of Matthew Golden. That
Speaker 3: was easy sixth and it allowed the DVD recover.
Speaker 2: Yep, I don't know why. I don't know why you
Speaker 2: put that much air. Try.
Speaker 4: He looked like he tried to touch it instead of
Speaker 4: just let it go. Just let it go.
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody over there, bro just go ahead and throw that.
Speaker 1: And then he had another one. He put too much
Speaker 1: on it because Golden has split the scene. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: he probably had a probably he probably should have used
Speaker 1: a little a shorter club.
Speaker 2: He had what club.
Speaker 3: Just just just in comparison, Matthew Matthew Golden runs a
Speaker 3: four four right, And I look at that play. I
Speaker 3: look at that play, and this is where I say
Speaker 3: where I think Tyreek Hill is so special. I didn't
Speaker 3: mean to bring up Tyreek, but a play like that,
Speaker 3: a ball like that where Tyreek is in that position,
Speaker 3: where he split that safety in that corner, he makes
Speaker 3: that catch and run.
Speaker 1: But that's that's the difference between I mean people under
Speaker 1: that balls. But that's the different between four to two
Speaker 1: and four four though.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1: He's gonna run up under that, but there's a good
Speaker 1: chance if he if he doesn't, if he, if he hitches,
Speaker 1: Tyreek gonna outrun it.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: So the thing is, maybe, uh, in a situation like that,
Speaker 1: you can't you know, you can't take the hit just
Speaker 1: got it basically when you just let it go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because Tyree with a free release, Yeah yeah, free nah.
Speaker 1: I mean because the thing is you gotta make you
Speaker 1: gotta make Tyreek drop step, you gotta make him do something.
Speaker 1: You can't just let the man have a pre release
Speaker 1: like he running a hundred meters just free go.
Speaker 2: He gone, Well, you asked you you really asking for trouble.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, but you had to be really impressed with
Speaker 1: the Packers. Look, I'm not overly concerned against Washington. That
Speaker 1: was a buzz So that was a short week. Uh uh,
Speaker 1: And that's no excuse. But when if you can't run
Speaker 1: the football against the team that can generate that kind
Speaker 1: of pressure, gonna be in for a long night because
Speaker 1: you got to you got to give them something else
Speaker 1: to think about.
Speaker 2: On yo.
Speaker 1: Right now, they're not thinking about anything. They're not running
Speaker 1: about Eckler, they're not worrying about Merit, uh Costky merit.
Speaker 1: They're not worried about any of those guys because what
Speaker 1: you've shown is that you can't run the football against
Speaker 1: out front four.
Speaker 2: So now we will worry.
Speaker 1: About the runner. Hey, y'all handle that run. A linebacker,
Speaker 1: y'all handled that were going hunting. They did a great
Speaker 1: job of keeping Jane Daniels in the pocket. They did
Speaker 1: a great job of when they escaped the pocket because
Speaker 1: they got got that can run.
Speaker 2: They got guys that can hunt. Hey, and the coach
Speaker 2: turned loose a.
Speaker 1: The dogs don't hunting and they did a great job
Speaker 1: of tracking Jaydon Dames to night. He's twenty four forty two,
Speaker 1: two hundred yards, two touchdowns. He didn't turn it over,
Speaker 1: but he was on the constant pressure. Michael Parsons had
Speaker 1: eight pressures alone. Yeah, bat them four times, so they
Speaker 1: probably pressured him another, you know, probably twelve thirteen times tonight.
Speaker 3: That's exactly what I'm going to ask you do you
Speaker 3: do you do you see the presidence the presidence of
Speaker 3: Michael Parson How he yes that defense obviously obviously listen,
Speaker 3: they were already good even if he wasn't there, but
Speaker 3: his addition to that and speeding up everything else for
Speaker 3: whoever they're playing offensively, being destructive, throwing off the time
Speaker 3: and helping that back in where the dvs right now.
Speaker 3: But they they looking like they looking like hall of
Speaker 3: famers out there now, Yeah, looking like hall of famers
Speaker 3: where it seems as if they're making all the plays.
Speaker 3: But if you don't understand the game, you're looking from
Speaker 3: the outside look and then you'd be like, oh my goodness, boy,
Speaker 3: these boys back.
Speaker 2: There, it's all world. You're right, but that but you
Speaker 2: can do that, od Joe.
Speaker 1: Uh, you look at the secondary when you had Reggie
Speaker 1: when Reggie was in Philly. You look at those guys,
Speaker 1: all those guys, because you had Reggie, you had Clyde Simmons,
Speaker 1: you had uh Ja Rested Sould, Jerome Brown. Look at
Speaker 1: what you had so eate and them back there. They
Speaker 1: didn't have to hold up loan. No, they didn't have
Speaker 1: to hold up loan. So the ball's gonna come out quick.
Speaker 1: You got Reggie, You got Reggie on one side, you
Speaker 1: got Jay, you got Clyde on another side, you got
Speaker 1: Jay Booget.
Speaker 3: Who was Eric Allens was on one side, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you remember who was on the other side of Eric Allen?
Speaker 2: Do you remember? It was the defense? Let me see
Speaker 2: if I can remember.
Speaker 5: They were Reggie, Clyde, Jerome Brown, Byron I think Byron Evans,
Speaker 5: Seth joorder E a Muddy Waters.
Speaker 2: I don't. I can't off the top of my head, Ojo.
Speaker 4: I can't.
Speaker 3: I can't remember at all. All I can see Eric
Speaker 3: Allen with that twenty one on clear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, clear as.
Speaker 1: I can't remember who was on the other side of Ojoe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but uh they were. They had a very they had
Speaker 1: a very good defense. Now you look, he was in
Speaker 1: he was in New Orleans also played in New Orleans.
Speaker 4: It's about on. It must be on the back end,
Speaker 4: because I don't remember that.
Speaker 1: I know you don't. Uh Now he finished up. If
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, I think he finished up with the Raiders.
Speaker 1: You remember him with the Raiders.
Speaker 3: I remember when I remember him with the Raiders. I
Speaker 3: remember that, and I definitely remember I.
Speaker 1: Think he I think he went from Philly to New Orleans,
Speaker 1: New Orleans to the Raiders. Okay, you checked that, Eric Allen.
Speaker 1: I think he went from Philly to New Orleans and
Speaker 1: then New Orleans to uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And if I'm not mistaken, he was uh when they
Speaker 1: had the don't the don't patrol, when they had pass wheelings,
Speaker 1: Ricky jack uh Vaughn Johnson, and they had Sam Mills
Speaker 1: the field of the field backer Sam Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think he was there with them. So
Speaker 1: he's always had a pass rushing front him. That's why
Speaker 1: he was sitting on everything. He had the record before
Speaker 1: drawn blam broke it with those six with those five
Speaker 1: return touchdowns because he was sitting on everything. But they
Speaker 1: were they were, they were, they were, they were loaded,
Speaker 1: they were they were a very good team. He was
Speaker 1: an outstanding defensive back. He had great skills. Uh, he
Speaker 1: could take the ball, you know, he could take the
Speaker 1: ball away. And you know the thing he had great,
Speaker 1: he had great feast. He was small, small as hi,
Speaker 1: you know, but he realized he didn't have to hold
Speaker 1: up long. Yeah, but a lot of those guys had.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: I think Ricky Jack had already gone. If I'm not
Speaker 1: being sure, I think Swill might have still been there.
Speaker 1: I think Sam Mills at that point in time had
Speaker 1: already gone to U. Carolina. So but they were they
Speaker 1: had He had a he cut his teeth over in Philly.
Speaker 1: That's where you know, most of the people remember him from.
Speaker 1: But he had an outstanding career. Jeordan Love finish nine
Speaker 1: to fifteen, one hundred and seventy five yards. Both touchdown
Speaker 1: came against the Commanders Blitz on throes of ten plus
Speaker 1: air yards. Against the Blitz, Love was six of eight
Speaker 1: four one hundred and forty four yards and a touchdown.
Speaker 1: His fourteen point five air yards per temp is a career.
Speaker 1: I'm mark o Jo. Did you like what you saw
Speaker 1: from Jordan Love?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Because the whole point of blissening is to throw
Speaker 3: the timing off and get to you before you can
Speaker 3: get the ball out. Jordan Love is doing exactly what
Speaker 3: veteran quarterbacks do and understand. Okay, based on what I see,
Speaker 3: based on Tennessee's, based on watching film, I already know
Speaker 3: what's coming one did you Love make his points? He
Speaker 3: communicates with that officer line, and they see what's coming,
Speaker 3: no matter how much you luffing and rotating and doing
Speaker 3: all that, all that shenanigans.
Speaker 4: Or we know what you're getting ready to do.
Speaker 3: And when a quarterback knows it ahead of time, you
Speaker 3: get the kind of night you got from him. When
Speaker 3: it comes to passing the ball, when they're blitzing, I'm
Speaker 3: not sure what percentage that the commander did blitz, but
Speaker 3: I guarantee you ninety eighty percent of the time that
Speaker 3: they did.
Speaker 4: Jordan Lou completed that pass.
Speaker 1: Yeah, where you're you're right on your you're trying to
Speaker 1: throw the timing off, but those receivers are so quick.
Speaker 2: Did you see that touchdown by Dobbs or the gold line?
Speaker 4: Yes, hey, dude, I'm listening.
Speaker 3: I'm not a defensive back on I'm not a defensive back,
Speaker 3: but I love defensive back play.
Speaker 4: He did with stick to the outside. Why you even
Speaker 4: going for the first move. You got to have patience
Speaker 4: like Sally made.
Speaker 6: Keep your heels on the goal line and don't go
Speaker 6: nowhere what you're moving for. He didn't even make a
Speaker 6: move because Dobs did with stab outside and come in
Speaker 6: and in.
Speaker 1: Your final Because when you study Green Bay, what did
Speaker 1: DeVante Adam? What rock did Davante Adams catch so much?
Speaker 4: But it got that face that speed out? Yeah yeah, yeah, Okay,
Speaker 4: you're right, you're right, You're right, you're right.
Speaker 1: Hey, how many time we see Devonte have to run
Speaker 1: that two yard out for a touchdown?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you better go for it? Right, you're right.
Speaker 1: Because it goes Because here's the thing, O joe. If
Speaker 1: that man run that speed out and you're not closed,
Speaker 1: they're like, bro, what you waiting on? Why why you playing?
Speaker 2: See man?
Speaker 1: That's a really that's a really hard And that's why
Speaker 1: I say, O Joe, if you up there, if you
Speaker 1: if you up there, are you gonna press or not?
Speaker 1: Because if you up in the press position, you gotta
Speaker 1: get your hands on the guy.
Speaker 2: You gotta got free release. And you up there, you
Speaker 2: let have got free release.
Speaker 1: You yeah, especially down there because you get good oo
Speaker 1: the man ain't got two three yards go for a touchdown,
Speaker 1: so he completely he in the end zone right right.
Speaker 4: I'm listening.
Speaker 3: I never understood what DB's as one dB that I've
Speaker 3: seen that's been.
Speaker 4: Able to do it because he's he's so disciplined.
Speaker 3: Yes, out of the movement is so good where he
Speaker 3: can be up and press and not touch you at
Speaker 3: all because he can stay in for you the whole time,
Speaker 3: and that award. You have other other players that are
Speaker 3: good that do it a little differently, but they love
Speaker 3: to use their hands to maintain their leverage throughout the
Speaker 3: right route, throughout the route and stay on top of you.
Speaker 3: But you gotta if you're gonna get up there and pressed,
Speaker 3: put your hands on him and throw the time and
Speaker 3: off right because it throws the time and off right away.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: We got a very special guest joining us tonight Packers
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. He received this Hall of Fame ring tonight.
Speaker 1: Uh my brother we became the first two brothers to
Speaker 1: be inducted in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. And
Speaker 1: he takes a few moments sides of his time. He's drunk.
Speaker 1: I mean I think that's him. I mean, I mean
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't see a whole lot, but I
Speaker 1: think that's him.
Speaker 2: I be.
Speaker 1: Your phone muted, your phone can't Somebody tell Jamie that
Speaker 1: his phone is muted.
Speaker 4: He gonna get it. He working on it. He working
Speaker 4: on it, He working on it.
Speaker 2: No, it's just see he like me.
Speaker 1: He can't work. He can't work technology either. No, we
Speaker 1: can't hear you broight.
Speaker 2: How about now?
Speaker 7: Yeah you go, oh girl, my jacket?
Speaker 2: Please? How about now?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh you Oh you just got in the car.
Speaker 2: So you at the hotel?
Speaker 7: Now yeah, I just got I just got to the hotel.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well you are you in Green Bay? You in Appleton?
Speaker 2: I'm in Green Bay.
Speaker 7: Bride just left the game, Okay, I just left the game.
Speaker 1: So you get your ring. So now this is this
Speaker 1: is the final piece. You got the you got the uh,
Speaker 1: you got the call. Uh when we were in and
Speaker 1: came down to Atlanta. Uh, you get fitted, you go
Speaker 1: to you know all that stuff, to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: You get fitted, and then all the build up to it,
Speaker 1: you get your the the ceremony, the induction in August.
Speaker 1: And now this is the final piece in front of
Speaker 1: those stands that you cut your teeth and you made
Speaker 1: a name, and you made the Sharp family the first
Speaker 1: Sharp and you made us proud.
Speaker 2: So now after you've had all.
Speaker 1: This opportunity, you had the better parts of seven months
Speaker 1: to absorb this.
Speaker 2: What did this moment finally mean? Had to finally hit you? Now? Really?
Speaker 7: You know, the thing is is one of those things,
Speaker 7: just the line of what has to happen kind of thing,
Speaker 7: you know how you know how it goes. We went
Speaker 7: through this, We went through this when you went through it.
Speaker 7: You know, we went through the whole. We went through
Speaker 7: the whole. You know, this is what we have to do.
Speaker 7: This is where you have to be, This is what
Speaker 7: you're gonna get. So it's just another step in the process, man,
Speaker 7: And I just look at it that way. I don't
Speaker 7: look at it as you know, my career ended in
Speaker 7: nineteen ninety four. You know, my football was done in
Speaker 7: nineteen ninety four. And this is just an extenuation of
Speaker 7: you know, being able to come back and stand in
Speaker 7: front of the fans that I've light in front of
Speaker 7: to let them know that I appreciate them, you know,
Speaker 7: to get a ring that that is ten times too
Speaker 7: big to wear, everything.
Speaker 2: To do anything with.
Speaker 7: But you know, it was a good time. I got
Speaker 7: I got Susan some here. They're right there there they
Speaker 7: go right there there there there.
Speaker 2: Hey, sus there they go. Is that hold on? Is
Speaker 2: that south of the denment? Verman? Right here there you go,
Speaker 2: right right there, hey Vern. Yeah.
Speaker 7: But hey, sus Yeah, we see we we were doing
Speaker 7: you know, it was good. We we got a chance
Speaker 7: to come back and do that and uh and just
Speaker 7: be so.
Speaker 2: I mean, you gotta well think about it, man.
Speaker 1: I don't know when was the last time Susan was
Speaker 1: back in Green Bay.
Speaker 7: Two thousand and four, Yeah, two thousand and four, yeah,
Speaker 7: two four, yeah.
Speaker 2: Wow, it's been a while.
Speaker 1: It has been if you hadn't been back since what
Speaker 1: you went to the ring, you went to the Ring
Speaker 1: of Honor, right, so you've only been back to time.
Speaker 2: I hosted.
Speaker 7: I hosted the first show for NFL Network after they
Speaker 7: won the Super Bowl, and I came twenty okay, so
Speaker 7: I came back when they played. They had the first
Speaker 7: game on Thursday night and I was at the NFL
Speaker 7: Network then, so I hosted then. Yeah, so it's eleven.
Speaker 7: Came back for your for your podcast. The first time I.
Speaker 1: Been back in twenty eleven, wow, we can tell, we
Speaker 1: can tell you just got them elevated too.
Speaker 2: You got go, we got we got we got it.
Speaker 2: We got odds everywhere. That's the whole point.
Speaker 7: The point is that by games over, festivities over, bro
Speaker 7: it's time going to bed.
Speaker 2: Now. We all my way back up to the room.
Speaker 2: What y'all leave.
Speaker 1: Y'all leave, first day, first thing in the morning, because
Speaker 1: y'all got to go from you all fled directly.
Speaker 2: You got to go to Chicago.
Speaker 7: I got to go to Chicago, Okay, but but no,
Speaker 7: it was it was a great night, man. We got
Speaker 7: a chance to enjoy uh, some friends we haven't seen
Speaker 7: in a while.
Speaker 2: I got parents, yeah, Ron.
Speaker 7: Holstrom, of course, Hall of Family, Roy Butler was here.
Speaker 2: Olympian Dan Jansen was here.
Speaker 7: So it was a good time. You know, it was
Speaker 7: a good It was a good time for It was
Speaker 7: a good time for us.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 7: So we we enjoyed that. We did that, and now
Speaker 7: we're back at the room, getting ready to get our
Speaker 7: stuff packed and get out here.
Speaker 2: I mean, what what does it mean?
Speaker 1: Because a lot of those a lot of those people
Speaker 1: that were in attend of tonight, they didn't get an
Speaker 1: opportunity to personally see. Some did, but not a lot
Speaker 1: of those people didn't get an opportunity to see you.
Speaker 1: Uh see you person leads to your career. What does
Speaker 1: it mean to you? What did it feel like to
Speaker 1: have seventy thousand fans or really because they love their
Speaker 1: Factor player eighty eighty thousand fans.
Speaker 7: Eighty thousand, to be able to let them know that,
Speaker 7: you know, I know that I'm playing. What I said tonight, shan,
Speaker 7: I got to say in front of grands and great grands, right,
Speaker 7: So it was, it was it was pretty cool to
Speaker 7: be able to talk to grands and great grands about
Speaker 7: what it meant for me to be, you know, for
Speaker 7: I understood, you know because and you know, when I
Speaker 7: first got to Green Bay, they weren't very good. No,
Speaker 7: they were had to seven big. And when I left
Speaker 7: Green Bay they were a lot better. And the wonderful
Speaker 7: thing about our fans is they're not fair weather. Whether
Speaker 7: it's minus three hundred degrees or if it's eighty six
Speaker 7: that they show up, they oh, show, they show up.
Speaker 7: I mean show my brother's first NFL game, I thought
Speaker 7: I'd killed him because he froze to death. That's how
Speaker 7: cold it was. And so but The thing was, is
Speaker 7: he was there. The fans were there also, so it
Speaker 7: was it's tremendous to be able to let them know
Speaker 7: because you know, when I left the game, the fans
Speaker 7: didn't know I wasn't coming back, right, They didn't know.
Speaker 7: You know, all they knew was is, oh, he had
Speaker 7: a neck injury. He didn't get to play in the
Speaker 7: two playoff games, and so he is. You know, we know, God,
Speaker 7: we were building something.
Speaker 2: They didn't know that that was my last game. I
Speaker 2: had no idea.
Speaker 7: So and and I don't know if you guys got
Speaker 7: a chance to say goodbye. And you know I got
Speaker 7: a chance to say hello because I was the seventh
Speaker 7: pick in the first round.
Speaker 2: But I never got a chance to say good bye.
Speaker 7: Not that I needed one, but you know, if you
Speaker 7: say hello, you really kind of feel like you want
Speaker 7: a chance to say goodbye. And to Diane, I got
Speaker 7: a chance to do that.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. No, I retired.
Speaker 1: You remember an four you know, CBS gave me the
Speaker 1: call and they asked me to sit at the table.
Speaker 2: And I realized, and you know, you're like.
Speaker 1: Look, man, you get too old to play football, you
Speaker 1: don't get too old to talk and there's no guarantee
Speaker 1: that this position will be available next year. Where you
Speaker 1: really want to retire because you want to go back
Speaker 1: and get year fifteen. There's nothing you can do that's
Speaker 1: going to change people perception of you. You got the championships,
Speaker 1: you got all the records. Hey, go ahead and take
Speaker 1: this job. And it was an easy decision for me.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 1: I just called Mike and said, Mike, I appreciate the opportunity.
Speaker 1: I would really love to come back, but this opportunity
Speaker 1: that I have that's before me right now, it's just
Speaker 1: too good to pass up. I had a thing I got,
Speaker 1: my teammates came back and I was like, hey, thank
Speaker 1: you guys for everything, but out the door.
Speaker 7: You're right, yeah, and that's good. But you know, when
Speaker 7: you play, we're all at different stages or parts or
Speaker 7: reasons for playing this game. I played football because I
Speaker 7: wanted to, you know, I played football.
Speaker 2: To impress my brother.
Speaker 7: And when it was over for me, and I said
Speaker 7: this to the media tonight, the only two people that
Speaker 7: were happier that my career ended were the two doctors
Speaker 7: that told me I should never play again. I was
Speaker 7: okay with my career ending, you know, I was okay
Speaker 7: with moving on. I was okay with using my college
Speaker 7: degree to be able to see what was out there,
Speaker 7: what was next. I was looking forward to what was
Speaker 7: I was looking forward to what was next, and so
Speaker 7: being able to do that. Man, I was happy about
Speaker 7: being able to do next. I was really prepared for
Speaker 7: being able to do next. And I was in the
Speaker 7: next brace and didn't know what was going to be next.
Speaker 7: I didn't know what was going to be next.
Speaker 1: Right, So man, congratulations, Man, thanks for taking time out.
Speaker 1: I know you got a lot going on. I know
Speaker 1: you got to get packed and you're ready to get
Speaker 1: up out of there.
Speaker 7: No, man, no, hey, hey, hey, I want to do
Speaker 7: I want to do one thing for your Uh is
Speaker 7: she over here? Yeah, don't worry, she's not there yet.
Speaker 7: She should hold on, man, because I want I want
Speaker 7: to introduce your audience. You know how I am. Man,
Speaker 7: I don't do I don't do what's the word I'm
Speaker 7: looking for. I don't do recognition very well.
Speaker 2: I don't I never passed.
Speaker 7: I'm more of a behind the scenes somebody else.
Speaker 2: Gets the recognition. But I want to.
Speaker 7: I would love the opportunity if you will allow me
Speaker 7: two minutes, If she's here. I want to introduce you
Speaker 7: to the architect. On why I came back to Green Bay.
Speaker 7: I have not been on Lamber Field since the day
Speaker 7: I stood on that field watching the playoff game, the
Speaker 7: last playoff game. So I have not been back, but
Speaker 7: I want to see if she Oh, she's here, hold on,
Speaker 7: she's here.
Speaker 2: Hold on.
Speaker 7: Okay, So, bro, Bro, this is Kathy.
Speaker 4: Hey.
Speaker 2: I met her at the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 7: I would not I would I would not be here
Speaker 7: if it wasn't for her. You know me, Bro, I'm
Speaker 7: not nostalgic. I'm not that kind of guy that needs
Speaker 7: my ego stroked or oh well, let me let me
Speaker 7: come back and be recognized. But the reason I came
Speaker 7: back to Green Bay on this night to get my ring,
Speaker 7: because I told the Hall of famers just send it
Speaker 7: to the house. The reason I came back is for her,
Speaker 7: because she has been She's wonderful at what she does.
Speaker 7: She is very passionate about what she does. And you
Speaker 7: know what she got me through that he said she would.
Speaker 7: She was the reason that the party went so well,
Speaker 7: this amazing party went somewhell. Then you were there, you
Speaker 7: know what that looked like and how that was. This
Speaker 7: is Kathy. She made this work and I just want
Speaker 7: to give her her flowers while I can in.
Speaker 2: Front of your audience.
Speaker 7: Thank you, o cho, and let her know that I
Speaker 7: really appreciate her. She's a member of the family now,
Speaker 7: so we can talk to her any way.
Speaker 2: We won't because you remember the family. Well, Kathy, thank you.
Speaker 7: Thank you the reason I came back. And it was
Speaker 7: a good night. We had a good time. We're gonna
Speaker 7: have one more drink and we're going to bed, all right, Kathy.
Speaker 7: Thank you for the great job that you did at
Speaker 7: the Hall of Fame. It was unbelievable.
Speaker 1: I speak for everybody that was an attendance, especially in
Speaker 1: my family.
Speaker 2: It was very well put together.
Speaker 1: Thank you for handling everything to get him and the
Speaker 1: family to and from Lambeau to receive his ring. I
Speaker 1: personally can't thank you enough, but a on half of
Speaker 1: the Sharp family, thank you for all you've done for
Speaker 1: my brother and this whole entime.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, thank you and pleasure really alright, all right.
Speaker 7: Man, y'all lay it down like y'all supposed to.
Speaker 2: We'll talk later, all right, bro? All right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, I know he doesn't bad log off.
Speaker 2: I know he doesn't.
Speaker 1: My brother's gonna have a four surgery on his eye,
Speaker 1: his right eye he had he found out he had
Speaker 1: to attached retina and he almost lost the eye, and
Speaker 1: he's had several surgeons on the eye trying to get
Speaker 1: it corrected. And this is one of the reasons that
Speaker 1: they had it so early. He drove the canton and
Speaker 1: he really didn't. He really didn't want to come because
Speaker 1: the pressure of the doctor says, you know, you keep
Speaker 1: risking it going up intol that pressure rize situation with
Speaker 1: the eye. So he's gonna have his full surgery on
Speaker 1: his eye later this month and hopefully they get it corrected.
Speaker 1: And it's a process that he has to spend about
Speaker 1: fourteen hours a day face down for six weeks. He
Speaker 1: has to sleep in that position. So he bought, you know,
Speaker 1: one of those cradle tables like a massage therapist, so
Speaker 1: he spends the bulk of his day face down. It
Speaker 1: might be more than that. I think it's somewhere between
Speaker 1: fourteen and twenty hours a day face down for six weeks.
Speaker 1: And so I want to take the time now to
Speaker 1: hopefully that thing it goes well this time and we
Speaker 1: won't have to have an another surgeon on the eye,
Speaker 1: and he gets to keep the eye. So Nightcap family
Speaker 1: say a prayer for him as he's about to go,
Speaker 1: you know, go through another surgery and hopefully this time
Speaker 1: they get it, they get it corrected.
Speaker 2: All right, O Joe. But now we get back to
Speaker 2: our normally schedule program.
Speaker 1: And the other year, after knocking Derrick Henry to the
Speaker 1: ground with a big head Brown's grant dell Pit delivered
Speaker 1: another shot at Henry as Thursday, how hard is it
Speaker 1: to bring us six foot three, two hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: pounds Derreck Henry down. Delpit quickly answered not hard. It
Speaker 1: responded later that day, saying he was aware of delpit comment.
Speaker 1: He had a quote we'll see on Sunday.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like it.
Speaker 3: I like del Pitt coming out publicly like that. Obviously,
Speaker 3: you look at so many players that that that played
Speaker 3: against the Ravens, that played against the Titan when Derrek
Speaker 3: King was there, that turned away from contact, that shot
Speaker 3: away from contact, that chose to allow him to run
Speaker 3: by him, and they rather tack him from the side
Speaker 3: and make a business decision instead attacking them head on.
Speaker 4: Del Pit is one of the few.
Speaker 3: I mean there might be maybe one of maybe one
Speaker 3: or two other safeties that really just don't care on
Speaker 3: that don't care nothing about their bodies, and they're gonna
Speaker 3: go in there and stick they face in there, and
Speaker 3: it's man on man, So it's money on it on
Speaker 3: a mono delpit kind of setting the tone for the
Speaker 3: defense coming out with comments like that, obviously giving the
Speaker 3: Ravens bulletin board material, but them having the personnel to
Speaker 3: be able to back that up.
Speaker 4: Now, they now they got to do just that. They
Speaker 4: got to back it up.
Speaker 3: Catch his ass going left and right, catch him going
Speaker 3: east and west, once you allow him to get north,
Speaker 3: going north, you.
Speaker 4: Already know what time it is. But that's the problem,
Speaker 4: what time it is.
Speaker 1: You do realize now Deck Henry is gonna go out
Speaker 1: of his way to see if you bought that, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You know you know he's gonna
Speaker 1: go out of his way and we go see, We're
Speaker 1: going to see if it's not as hard as you
Speaker 1: said it is, absolutely, because there ain't a whole lot
Speaker 1: of safeties that's looking to tackle Deck Henry head on,
Speaker 1: especially if he know you coming see. It's either to
Speaker 1: sneak up on somebody, or you hit somebody. You know,
Speaker 1: he's trying to step from somebody and you catch him.
Speaker 1: Now he knows, Oh grant, what's the number?
Speaker 2: Y'all? Okay, don't worry about it, don't even don't worry
Speaker 2: about it. I got it.
Speaker 4: Listen, I got it.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you. I'll take it from here. I like it.
Speaker 1: Hey, whoever he don't block him, say, don't worry about him,
Speaker 1: get somebody else. Hey, you take Denzel ward because I
Speaker 1: don't want him to try to have it to chase
Speaker 1: me down. Take care of safety because you know, oh Joe,
Speaker 1: in a situation like that, a lot of times we
Speaker 1: can't block everybody. There's one person freeze, kind of like
Speaker 1: the punk returner Park Returner. We gonna have everybody else
Speaker 1: blocked up. You got the punter, you gotta block him.
Speaker 4: I take everything else.
Speaker 2: I take everything else.
Speaker 1: Didn't hear everybody to say, hey, don't e worry about
Speaker 1: Greg delpick I got that.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 1: But look, this is an old Look there's no love
Speaker 1: lost between these two teams. Baltimore is seething. They know
Speaker 1: they lettergate, but so is Cleveland. Cleveland say, we had
Speaker 1: we had the Bengals. Dad to right, we missed the
Speaker 1: pat and a field goal. Labar Jackson and that Baltimore
Speaker 1: Ravens said, hold on, wait a minute, man, we had
Speaker 1: a fifteen point lead under four minutes to go. Oh
Speaker 1: we about to go head and try to do something
Speaker 1: bad to y'all. Miles Garret, y'all ain't about to do
Speaker 1: nothing bad to nobody, not if I got something to
Speaker 1: say about it. But I tell you what number seventy seven?
Speaker 1: Better do a better job? Would he did again in Buffalo?
Speaker 4: Hey, that was that was bad? On that that was bad?
Speaker 4: That was bad. He looked like he was lost on
Speaker 4: some play.
Speaker 2: I thought he was doing the macaraino.
Speaker 3: Just because he didn't have anybody in front of him. Obviously,
Speaker 3: if nobody's in front of the closest man to you,
Speaker 3: help your pardon out, look to your right, help your
Speaker 3: partner out.
Speaker 2: He going.
Speaker 4: He's sitting there, turning the circles, not touching nobody, Like,
Speaker 4: what are we doing?
Speaker 2: Head up inside most dangerous man.
Speaker 4: That's normally to your inside, which.
Speaker 2: Got head up? That's you.
Speaker 1: You gotta got inside out, that's you. You did Other
Speaker 1: than that, it ain't nobody there. You take the most
Speaker 1: dangerous man, Like you said, hey, help somebody out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, you know you know what I do like
Speaker 3: to from from Grant on. We don't get this enough.
Speaker 3: We don't get this enough in today's NFL. We don't
Speaker 3: get players coming out and not saying anything malicious, but
Speaker 3: posing a competitive challenge to their opponent. I like it
Speaker 3: because now for me, there are a lot of games
Speaker 3: that's being play at one o'clock.
Speaker 4: Huh, there are a lot of gas gonna be being
Speaker 4: played at one o'clock.
Speaker 3: But you know it's one I want to turn into
Speaker 3: simply because of the back and forth between those two.
Speaker 3: I want to see the Browns that I want to
Speaker 3: see the Ravens because I want to see what's gonna
Speaker 3: happen when the Ravens are on offense and they have
Speaker 3: to run the ball, and it is Grant delp It
Speaker 3: going to come to the party when the door is open.
Speaker 4: That's all I want to see.
Speaker 3: That, that's all I want to see, amongst the other
Speaker 3: things that those teams have to offer offensively and defensively.
Speaker 3: Everybody's gonna be watching twenty two versus what number Delpit
Speaker 3: will he will one got No Greg New from zero
Speaker 3: right whatever it is I want to see. I can't wait.
Speaker 3: I can't I'm gonna be front and center. Matter of fact,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be at the sports book, and I'm gonna.
Speaker 4: Tell them in the sports book. I want the Ravens
Speaker 4: and Browns game on the big screen.
Speaker 2: I want Tomber he's nine oh nine.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, okay, okay, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh my thing, your botte shoe is like, look, I
Speaker 1: don't have a guy because here is the thing. There
Speaker 1: are no ramifications if because if he lose, they're gonna say, well,
Speaker 1: what did you want him to say? No, I wanted
Speaker 1: you to do what you said you were gonna do. Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: don't talk about oh it was a game and you
Speaker 1: know ain't. I ain't backing that. No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you said that man ain't hard to tackle. Now, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna need you to drop some love. But I need
Speaker 1: you to drop anchor and make Derrick Henry feel you.
Speaker 1: I ain't talking about no side and jumping on his
Speaker 1: back and the whole. But no, you said he's not
Speaker 1: hard to tackle. I want to see if he's not.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see. I ain't talking about Miles
Speaker 1: Garrett I'm not talking about nobody else. I'm talking about you.
Speaker 1: You said that, so now you wrote checks, everybody else
Speaker 1: got a cash.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I don't know how much money y'all got to the
Speaker 1: defense in this account, but all I know is that
Speaker 1: you wrote a check that y'all asked gonna.
Speaker 2: Have to cash.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like it. I like it.
Speaker 2: That's that's all I know.
Speaker 3: And uh and most of the time when a player
Speaker 3: comes out out and speak and speaks out as you
Speaker 3: look at you look at me most of the time
Speaker 3: from my offensive player. When I did all that talking
Speaker 3: for eleven eleven to twelve years, have a long I played,
Speaker 3: I knew one thing. Not only do I have to
Speaker 3: back it up, but I put pressure on myself. I
Speaker 3: took the pressure off the rest of my teammates so
Speaker 3: all they had to do is go out there and
Speaker 3: do their job, because I had ten other people trying
Speaker 3: to knock my head off.
Speaker 2: Absolutely other people.
Speaker 4: I don't play on the defense side of the ball.
Speaker 3: Now, if you play on defense and you come out
Speaker 3: and you're talking like that, oh, you ain't got no
Speaker 3: choice but the short because now all eyes are on you, right,
Speaker 3: all the pressures on you. Now you've got to fulfill
Speaker 3: everything you said. Man, right, Hey, I can't wait.
Speaker 1: We know there's no love lost between these two teams.
Speaker 1: You know they're in the same division. They've been in
Speaker 1: the same division. Like I said, the Ravens were the
Speaker 1: old Browns. Now the Browns have their own team. That
Speaker 1: just goes to show you what.
Speaker 2: Think about it.
Speaker 1: Now, the NFL made Art Modell leave the Cleveland brown
Speaker 1: come and the Records in Cleveland. No other team in
Speaker 1: the history of moving has ever had to do that.
Speaker 1: The Cardinals did not leave there in Saint Louis. They
Speaker 1: took them the Raiders. They moved from Oakland to La
Speaker 1: La back to Oakland, Oakland, Nebate to Vegas. They're still
Speaker 1: silvering Black and they still got their records. The Rams
Speaker 1: have moved. They were in Saint Louis over the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: Nobody even the Houston the Houston Oilers. They moved to Tennessee.
Speaker 1: They didn't have to leave that. The Colts were in Baltimore.
Speaker 2: They left in nineteen eighty four in the middle of
Speaker 2: the night.
Speaker 4: They didn't tell anybody.
Speaker 1: Only Art Modell had to leave his Colors and the
Speaker 1: records and they got.
Speaker 2: A new team.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So there's no love loves of space between the city
Speaker 1: and mister Modell, but a lot of the people that
Speaker 1: was there doing that process. The Ravens have been in
Speaker 1: Baltimore now since nineteen ninety six, since nineteen ninety six,
Speaker 1: so damn in thirty years. Well, if thirty years, what's
Speaker 1: the hostility for right? Look I play you know, look,
Speaker 1: I obviously I played two years with the Ravens, and
Speaker 1: we played the Browns. We beat them, beat the hell
Speaker 1: out of them the first two years. They beat us
Speaker 1: the second year there. But I'm gonna see I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure I'm watching, you know, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: make sure I have my box on and have my look,
Speaker 1: my my computer because I'm be watching because I want
Speaker 1: to see.
Speaker 2: Now. You best believe.
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna say, oh, Joe, I saw somebody with
Speaker 1: an alligator. Alligator mine with a humming bird ass because
Speaker 1: somebody we're doing a lot of talking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he ain't have a lot of breaks in his
Speaker 2: back pocket. So we go see this. Hey, let's sirk.
Speaker 2: They got some great games on Sunday.
Speaker 1: They got the Eagles, they got the we got the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl rematch, Super Bowl rematch, but I'm gonna play
Speaker 1: very close attention to that game.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, absolutely listen for me.
Speaker 3: The number one game to watch for me, despite the
Speaker 3: Super Bowl rematch, is the Ravens in the Brown simply
Speaker 3: because of the trash talk in exchange, trash talk. If
Speaker 3: the goddamn Chiefs happened to start ohe and to two,
Speaker 3: well hey, it might be time to hit the panty button.
Speaker 3: But again, if you if you have fifteen at the helm,
Speaker 3: what you do in September really doesn't matter because by
Speaker 3: the time you get to the back end of the
Speaker 3: season when it matters most, the Chiefs are gonna be
Speaker 3: in the race. So regardless of who wins this early
Speaker 3: Super Bowl rematch in week two, it ain't really mean
Speaker 3: it ain't really meaning nothing.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna find out Cleveland doing a lot of talking,
Speaker 1: We're gonna find out if gonna be able to back
Speaker 1: it up.
Speaker 2: The question also, oo, the Ravens, what if they fall
Speaker 2: the O and two?
Speaker 3: Well, hey, I think the Ravens falling oh and two
Speaker 3: and the Chiefs falling on on two, there's no reason
Speaker 3: to hit the panic button. Now, there's no reason because
Speaker 3: who are the quarterbacks? Patrick Mahomes, who's Lamar Jackson. That's
Speaker 3: a hole that they can dig themselves out of.
Speaker 1: But also they got to look at them. Look at
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks in the division with them, Joe Burrow and
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. That's not the normal cast of characters that
Speaker 1: you normally see with a team. Because okay, now go
Speaker 1: to Patrick Mahomes's division. You got Justin Herbert, you got
Speaker 1: Bo Nicks, so you got guys. Now they got caught
Speaker 1: that can get great quarterback play. So this notion that
Speaker 1: oh it's a no brainer. Now, mind you, you've already
Speaker 1: lost to the Chiefs, I mean to the Chargers, yes,
Speaker 1: and next week you're on the road to the Giants.
Speaker 1: So it's not like the Chiefs got it easy schedule
Speaker 1: because when you to win the division, you got your
Speaker 1: you know, you got your your teams that you're gonna
Speaker 1: play outside of you.
Speaker 2: You got your division cross matchups. Maybe it's uh, I.
Speaker 1: Think Kansas City might play the NFC East or something
Speaker 1: like that. But then you also get division winners from
Speaker 1: other divisions. So ain't ain't no ain't no cupcakes. No
Speaker 1: you you they they Hey, that's one thing about the NFL.
Speaker 1: They they make you earn it year after year. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: O Joe. After Sunday's lost to the Commander's Elite Neighbors,
Speaker 1: explained a fiery sideline exchange with head coach Brian Damon
Speaker 1: as an attempt to boost people up because he felt
Speaker 1: like the team's energy was not where it needed to be.
Speaker 1: I was trying to get the offense going. I was
Speaker 1: trying to tell people get rolling. The lights were on,
Speaker 1: the game was all this time to play. I feel
Speaker 1: like we just got pushed over and everybody was just
Speaker 1: talking about the attitude and stuff like that. It's just
Speaker 1: I got that NBF nasty b face us. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's just what it is.
Speaker 2: That's just my face. I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Uh what all you what all you talk to me about?
Speaker 2: Talk to me? I look the same way every time.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's just how I am. But I
Speaker 2: guess I have to smile more.
Speaker 1: He said that he spoken to coach day Ball about
Speaker 1: just the sideline demeanor since the game and knows he
Speaker 1: has to be more conscious of it and the future
Speaker 1: because of how many eyes are on him during the game.
Speaker 3: Most definitely, you know they will misconscrew that they were
Speaker 3: miscunscrewed your passion, you know, at that position, especially playing receiver.
Speaker 3: Now when you have when you have a quarterback that
Speaker 3: does the same things like that, and he shows that
Speaker 3: passion enthusiasm for the game to get his teammates going,
Speaker 3: and you're you're, you're, you're having confrontation and what they
Speaker 3: think is conversation from the outside looking in, and it.
Speaker 4: Just you reacting to.
Speaker 3: The low what's the word, the low excitement of your
Speaker 3: team and trying to get everybody going, trying to get
Speaker 3: trying to get the fellas to get to going when
Speaker 3: things aren't going well, maybe things are going well, not
Speaker 3: going well offensively, on going well defensively and hyping everybody
Speaker 3: up around you. Sometimes it works, but when you're when
Speaker 3: you're a skill position is.
Speaker 4: Frowned upon, it's problem.
Speaker 3: You have to carry yourself a certain way because the
Speaker 3: mannerisms in what you do, they call it disgruntled. If
Speaker 3: a quarterback does it, they call it passion. It's the
Speaker 3: same act, but they worded differently depending on who you
Speaker 3: are and what position you do play.
Speaker 4: Yes, and especially playing that goddamn New York.
Speaker 1: Correct get labeled, you get labeled. They used the term
Speaker 1: mild content. There you you don't say you a diva?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, yeah, Well why why can't I have passion?
Speaker 2: Why can't I want to win? Right? Oh, I'm selfish?
Speaker 2: Right right? I mean listen, one man passion is another
Speaker 2: man's selfishness is another man's diva.
Speaker 3: The funny thing about it is we've seen Tom Brady
Speaker 3: do it on the sideline. I'm telling I, go the
Speaker 3: hell off.
Speaker 2: Yes, quarterbacks do it.
Speaker 4: I'm not pig. You've seen Peyton Manning do it. I
Speaker 4: mean the hell off. I'm talking about screaming at his
Speaker 4: offensive lineman. You remember that?
Speaker 3: Remember that clip chat if you all remember the clip
Speaker 3: with with Jeff Saturday and Peyton Manning going.
Speaker 4: On the side. Oh my goodness, that happens all the time.
Speaker 2: It happens all the time.
Speaker 3: But when dads Brian doesn't, Oh, it's an issue. Oh,
Speaker 3: it's a problem when Steve Miss Steve Smith does it.
Speaker 3: It's a problem when he does it, it was a problem.
Speaker 3: But anytime it's a quarterback that does the exact same
Speaker 3: thing in a passionate manner, it's definitively is definitively described different.
Speaker 4: Chris It's always been that way, always and.
Speaker 1: It always will. So we're not gonna change it by
Speaker 1: discussing it here tonight. People gonna look at it one way.
Speaker 1: It all depends on who's doing it. Yeah, So that's
Speaker 1: where we are on back. One thing is that Ben
Speaker 1: Johnson became known for as an offensive coordinator Detroit was
Speaker 1: the trick plays, but Dan Campbell said trick plays are
Speaker 1: the least of his concern as he gets ready for Johnson.
Speaker 1: You practice one of two things you do every for
Speaker 1: every opponent. But I don't really care about trick plays.
Speaker 1: Let's just handle the meat potatoes on an offense and
Speaker 1: the defense and what we think they're gonna hang their
Speaker 1: hat on. Let's stop that first. Let's worry about that.
Speaker 1: Let's make sure we're all on point, and we'll handle
Speaker 1: the other stuff they made hit us with one. That's
Speaker 1: that's all right, that happens. Get back to the huddle.
Speaker 1: Let's get on to the next play.
Speaker 2: O Jo. You give the Bears and our chance to
Speaker 2: beat Detroit in Detroit.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, absolutely. I think they have.
Speaker 3: They have a chance in general, simply because Ben Johnson
Speaker 3: knows the Lions very well. He knows the deficiencies in
Speaker 3: which they have. Defensively, he knows what he can attack
Speaker 3: and what he can attack. He knows what plays the
Speaker 3: call to play to the strings of Caleb Williams, and
Speaker 3: he knows Kayla Williams weaknesses as well. Again collectively, as
Speaker 3: a team offensively, they're going to have to play well.
Speaker 3: They're going to have to play well, and Caleb has
Speaker 3: to make all the right decisions when it comes to
Speaker 3: throwing the football. He got to make all the right
Speaker 3: decisions and be a little bit more accurate because you're
Speaker 3: not going to get very many chances. The chances that
Speaker 3: you do have, you have to maximize on all opportunities.
Speaker 3: When we have opportunity for big catches, big plays and touchdowns,
Speaker 3: you do.
Speaker 2: And then he let one slip. He had DJ Moore,
Speaker 2: I think, and he overshot him.
Speaker 1: I should have put that he should have put that
Speaker 1: ball in there because they kind of blew the coverage
Speaker 1: and he kind of selled it on him.
Speaker 2: And that's what you're saying.
Speaker 1: When you get opportunities like that, you can when you
Speaker 1: get opportunity when someone makes a mistake, got to make
Speaker 1: them pay because guess what happens if a guy misses
Speaker 1: the block. If there's an unblocked defensive lineman, he's going
Speaker 1: to hit your quarterback in the back and he's gonna
Speaker 1: make him fumble the ball. So you've got to make
Speaker 1: them pay the ultimate price when they make a mistake.
Speaker 1: You got to hit your head on the gold post.
Speaker 1: You can't say, damn, man, I missed that up. No,
Speaker 1: you can't miss that, because they're not going to miss
Speaker 1: that up opportunity. I guarantee you they get a free rusher,
Speaker 1: they're gonna make your quarterback turn it over.
Speaker 2: And it's really that's the gist of it.
Speaker 1: And you mess around to make a mistake on the
Speaker 1: other side of the ball, they're gonna make you pay
Speaker 1: for it. So you need to make guys pay for
Speaker 1: the mistakes that they make. So if they don't have
Speaker 1: if you have an unblocked lineman, take the ball away.
Speaker 1: If they blow an assignment and the safety in the
Speaker 1: corner get mixed up about who's bowed to roll, or
Speaker 1: you gotta make them pay.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what you gotta do.
Speaker 1: And I don't think the Bears did that because they
Speaker 1: had some opportunities the other night against Minnesota and kayleb
Speaker 1: Weives didn't make them pay, but when they got their opportunities,
Speaker 1: Minnesota made them pay. Yeah, and so what that's what
Speaker 1: has to happen this week on the road, you're playing
Speaker 1: in a hostile environment. Yeah, they're familiar with each other. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell was the head coach, so he knows this tendan.
Speaker 1: He knows Ben johnson tendency's Now the thing is the
Speaker 1: decoordinated Now. I don't know he might be being brought
Speaker 1: up because obviously ag is the head coach of the Jets. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they kind of know, they kind of know what
Speaker 1: what what being likes to run because guess what in
Speaker 1: training camp you stripped. Okay, I want to see I
Speaker 1: want to see this defense against this formation. I want
Speaker 1: to see. I want to see this formation against this defense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you set plays up. You're familiar with each other,
Speaker 1: even though the d C wasn't in the DC role
Speaker 1: when Ben was there. So but I you know, look,
Speaker 1: Caleb is on the clock. Has to play better now
Speaker 1: because guess what, They're not gonna blame being Johnson.
Speaker 3: All right, it's going to the quarterbacks and listen, Yes,
Speaker 3: there was a graphic. I'm not sure what the graphic
Speaker 3: what the graphic was. But in their first two seasons, well,
Speaker 3: and then you look at the numbers in comparison when
Speaker 3: Mitchrubisky was there.
Speaker 4: And Kayleb Williams a young, numbers look very similar. They
Speaker 4: look very similar. Look they look very similar. So, I mean,
Speaker 4: I'm excited for that game.
Speaker 3: I think the winning this game is whichever team could
Speaker 3: could get the other to be one demention. You know,
Speaker 3: the Bear's got to be able to run the ball
Speaker 3: to be able to execute what they want to do offensively,
Speaker 3: and the same thing goes for the Lions. The Lions
Speaker 3: in there in their first game, they weren't really able
Speaker 3: to establish run like they only would with Montgomery and Gibbs.
Speaker 3: So this is the game where they need to established
Speaker 3: run so it can open up their offense, so their
Speaker 3: offensive play call that can be able to do more
Speaker 3: and open up the playbook.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, they're gonna I mean both teams, because
Speaker 1: Green Bay did a great job of shutting down the
Speaker 1: run and then guess what, putting pressure on Jared Goff,
Speaker 1: That's what the Bear is gonna try to do. Bear's
Speaker 1: gonna try to put pressure on Golf because he's not mobile,
Speaker 1: and he's not a guy that really makes plays outside
Speaker 1: of the pocket.
Speaker 2: He makes plays on script. Great play call, he can
Speaker 2: execute it.
Speaker 1: But now when you got to get our script, rolling
Speaker 1: out of the pocket, throwing on the move, that's not
Speaker 1: what he's that's not what he's good at now. And
Speaker 1: so the Bears gonna try to make him uncomfortable. Dennis
Speaker 1: Allen has done a great job. He's one of the
Speaker 1: better defensive coordinators in this league. And so we're gonna
Speaker 1: find We're gonna find out somebody's going to and two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no matter what, nobody's just like Saturday. Uh,
Speaker 3: just like Saturday, both fighters Canelo and Bud got a zero.
Speaker 2: Somebody gonna have an l h. We don't know who
Speaker 2: already got what lost? Remember he lost?
Speaker 4: I mean I'm ok, he has too, actually philopt Maywell, Okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm I just drew a blank trying
Speaker 4: to try to do the comparison. Yeah, these two teams.
Speaker 1: But but we're gonna tide to find out. Caleb gotta
Speaker 1: Caleb just gotta make the plays.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: And but the thing I think the biggest thing for
Speaker 1: Caleb is that is he gonna be a guy that
Speaker 1: that makes like make plays from the pocket. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: seems that he seems to like he's better outside of
Speaker 1: the pocket, making plays on the move. And it's it's
Speaker 1: hard to win a championship like that. Most guys, look,
Speaker 1: that's auxiliary. Your meeting potatoes need to be throwing the ball.
Speaker 1: From the podcast, he can do both, though, he can
Speaker 1: do he can do both. We're going about find out.
Speaker 1: We're gonna find out