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Speaker 1: And welcome in it is Jags am JP Sadrick in

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Speaker 1: for Kay Stevens.

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Speaker 2: We've got a busy.

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Speaker 1: Show ahead on a relatively non busy week.

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Speaker 2: Is that a word?

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Speaker 1: A lot to get to though, Let's get right to

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Speaker 1: it and start into the big things today, starting with

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Speaker 1: thirty days to the NFL Draft. Brian Sexson, I know

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Speaker 1: you're fired up to go to Green Bay.

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Speaker 3: Can't wait to get to Green Bay. Actually, I am

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Speaker 3: excited to see what they do up there. They've done

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Speaker 3: such a great job with a history of the Packers

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Speaker 3: and the league. I expect it to be as good

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Speaker 4: But what I'm really feeling about.

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Speaker 3: This right now is, and John, you go back to

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Speaker 3: the early days of this franchise, when the Jaguars got started,

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Speaker 3: they were able to really be big players in free

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Speaker 3: that they built the team because the league gave them

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Speaker 3: a completely clean cap, and so the Jaguars, is they

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Speaker 3: were filling their roster with draft picks, were also equally

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Speaker 3: sprinkling in free agents, and through their history that's something

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Speaker 3: they've done. But you get the feeling that maybe the

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Speaker 3: next thirty days are going to prove that that's changing

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Speaker 3: be the heart and soul of this football program, like

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Speaker 3: they've talked about, because the way that they approached free

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Speaker 3: agency last month was about filling specific gaps and lower

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Speaker 3: And I think we're seeing a seed change in the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know that we'll know that for sure,

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Speaker 5: mean it's I think most teams want to veer from

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Speaker 6: They need to hit.

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Speaker 5: As somebody wrote to me this week, it's nice to

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Speaker 5: to develop. So I think the next thirty days definitely

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Speaker 5: set the tone for this franchise moving forward.

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Speaker 2: Now our next big thing. Today, you see the theme

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Speaker 1: Thirty well thirty million, almost thirty million dollars in cap

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Speaker 1: spend that they did was about ten players coming in

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Speaker 1: the only team in the league to not sign their

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Speaker 1: little money to work with. Still, they got to save

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Speaker 5: I think they've got the money, but I don't think

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Speaker 5: they want to necessarily spend it, certainly not till after

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Speaker 5: the draft. They're gonna draft, and as James Gladstone said,

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Speaker 5: they hope to have spots available for young guys to play.

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Speaker 5: I think there's a few needs on this rosterbably a

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Speaker 5: So would I be shocked if there was a pass

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Speaker 5: But I hope that thirty million, except for the rookies,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it will. John, You're right on on

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Speaker 3: When you look at that though, JP, the thing that

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Speaker 3: A new group has come in and they've reworked through

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Speaker 3: When you look at the health of a football team,

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Speaker 1: Dead cap money against them still with all the players

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Speaker 4: Fifty eight million, which is a huge number, but four

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it goes to show though that they are

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Speaker 1: Our final big thing today thirty visits Well, you can

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Speaker 2: I'm sure of who's coming who's not.

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Speaker 1: And this is when you get to spend a whole

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and looking at the thirty days and the thirty visits,

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Speaker 3: just offer an opinion. They're seeking to collect as much

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Speaker 3: information as they can. And all the way back to

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Speaker 4: Why they're bringing him there.

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Speaker 3: This was in the early iteration of these player visits

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Speaker 4: It was a key player for them for five seasons.

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Speaker 3: So you know you're going to find those guys through

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Speaker 3: this process that you really like, and these visits are

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll actually be curious to see how this goes

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Speaker 5: and I'm not sure how much you know this is

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Speaker 5: it certainly is a chance, as Brian said, to get

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Speaker 2: We'll see and teams can do it different way. So

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Speaker 1: Bring in, you know, fifteen guys on one day and

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Speaker 1: and we'll see what the Jags have in mind this

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Speaker 2: We've got plenty ahead. We'll come back in a moment.

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Speaker 1: And take a look at the AFC South and talk

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Speaker 2: In our Division.

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Speaker 1: What we love to do on jags Am. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to jags Am.

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Speaker 2: Move the freight. Moved the freight, not everybody.

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Speaker 1: At one time Magellan Transport put in the coolest office

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Speaker 1: space in Jacksonville. Apply online at Magellanlogistics dot com. One

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Speaker 1: of these days, you got some juice this morning, I

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Speaker 1: get you guys to do that with me, all right,

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Speaker 1: Today's not that day.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not sure as that too early.

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Speaker 3: John, Today, I don't know we were supposed to jump in.

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Speaker 4: I mean a little clue, move the freight.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, you got it. John, will get to you

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Speaker 1: another time. Let's take a look at the AFC South.

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Speaker 1: You know, we talked about the Jags. Clearly we were

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Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of change could be on

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Speaker 2: Let's start off with the division champs.

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Speaker 1: Last year, the Houston Texans, who limped towards the end

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Speaker 2: Into the playoffs. Of course, is the division champs.

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Speaker 1: They've got Stroud, They've got changes up front on that

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Speaker 2: How consistent can they be well?

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Speaker 3: And they've got the quarterback too, right. I mean, everybody

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Speaker 3: Stroud is the engine. We've talked about Trevor Lawrence here

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's a big year for them, because really,

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Speaker 5: I think one of the disappointing things for the Jags

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Speaker 5: This was not a dominant division, and they really didn't

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Speaker 5: clearly believe it's the offensive line. It's a big year

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Speaker 6: I think he's really good, but there's.

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Speaker 5: Some proving to do, and this franchise thinks this division

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Speaker 2: In next year.

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Speaker 1: Let's move along to your old stomping grounds, Indianapolis, John

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Speaker 1: where the Colts have quarterback questions. Surprise, surprise, there were

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Speaker 1: eight to nine last year. Anthony Richardson injured throughout the

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Speaker 1: season so many different ways and times. Well, now there's

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Speaker 1: going to be a competition, they say out of Indy

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Speaker 6: Well, it's exactly what.

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Speaker 5: A young quarterback who's been through with Daniel Jones has

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Speaker 5: and there's going to be a trend of quarterbacks failing

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Speaker 1: Well, they could have drafted better on the offensive line. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Well and all the reports were is that he was impressive,

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Speaker 4: This just seems to be a no brainer.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it would be shocking, except that you see enough

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Speaker 2: Of that spot.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean if they believe in cam Ward, which

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Speaker 6: But it's not a done deal.

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Speaker 6: That doesn't mean it can't work.

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Speaker 5: But everything you hear is that neither of these quarterbacks,

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Speaker 3: You know, it also sets up for them to take

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Speaker 6: So you could see the Titans.

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Speaker 3: They're stuck there and they don't love the quarterback saying listen,

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Speaker 1: You know what the Texans did a few years ago,

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Speaker 1: Also a possibility, you never know. They've got to rebuilt

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Speaker 1: We're back to draft talk. Who do you want wearing teal?

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to jags Am.

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Speaker 1: here at the Bank and welcome back JP Shadwick, Brian

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Speaker 2: Today NFL Draft.

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Speaker 1: As we mentioned earlier about thirty days away in Green

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Speaker 1: Bay from the twenty twenty five NFL Draft, Jags have

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Speaker 1: the number five pick. So the question today is who

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Speaker 1: do you want wearing teal next ball. I'll answer the

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Speaker 2: Why not?

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Speaker 1: I like star power, I like competitiveness. I like guys

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Speaker 1: the ball. Give me Travis Hunter of Colorado, the cornerback,

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Speaker 1: wide receiver, which side would he play primarily on?

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Speaker 2: Here?

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Speaker 1: It's a great question we can talk about that. Jags

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Speaker 1: do need some cornerback help. Jaggs could use another star receiver.

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Speaker 1: He could do both. I like the fact that he's

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Speaker 4: Attens Cordy Lockball.

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Speaker 1: He is at the top of his game. Obviously the

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Speaker 4: But which side would you put him on?

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Speaker 1: I would put him at corner and give him some

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Speaker 2: That's what I would do.

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Speaker 1: He's not going to be happy with that, but you

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Speaker 1: and then maybe there's more of the problem with it

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Speaker 1: is that if he gets hurt, you lose two positions. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Listen, it seems like it could go either way.

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Speaker 3: That people are talking about him as playing either one

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I.

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Speaker 5: Think if he's there, I think there's a very high

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Speaker 6: I don't think that he will be there.

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Speaker 3: So Okay, because of what you were talking about it

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Speaker 3: was per absolute star power. People watched Colorado when they

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Speaker 3: weren't very good the last two years because of this kid.

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Speaker 3: And every time I turned a game on it involved Colorado,

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Speaker 4: You could watch this guy for sixty minutes.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to look far.

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Speaker 6: The Great Players Draft.

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Speaker 5: According to Allanos, it's Abduel Carter from Penn State and

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Speaker 2: Too six fair enough Johnny, Oh, what do you think?

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Speaker 2: Who do you want to see? Intel?

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Speaker 5: Well, who I'd most like to see is who I

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Speaker 5: that direction. So I went Mason Graham, and he's sorted

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Speaker 5: the chalk pick, the defensive tackle from Michigan. I understand

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Speaker 5: and there's nothing wrong with the Travis Hunter. But I

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Speaker 5: I'll go with the defensive tackle who can be disruptive,

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Speaker 6: A long time.

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Speaker 4: Well, what this team really needs.

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Speaker 3: Is a guy who pushed the pocket from the inside.

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Speaker 3: They hope that Mason Smith develops into that or Jordan Jefferson.

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Speaker 3: That's why they were picked last year where they were.

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Speaker 3: But if you don't have.

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Speaker 4: Somebody pushing the pocket from the inside, JP.

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Speaker 3: You know this, I mean, it's just so much harder

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Speaker 3: So I mean, this is a very logical, sensible pick.

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Speaker 1: If it was made, I mean, this would be a

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Speaker 3: But this was sort of a wishless sort of fun exercise,

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Speaker 2: To what would they everybody in the building they do.

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Speaker 3: lower than New Orleans. The reason why is he reminds

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Speaker 3: me physically of Rob Gronkowski and stylistically like Travis Kelce,

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Speaker 3: and if you can find a player that can give

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Speaker 3: you all of that, he was so much fun to watch.

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Speaker 3: Talking about fun, right, I mean not two sides of

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Speaker 3: the ball like Travis Hunter, but a guy that they

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Speaker 3: lined up all across the formation at running back, at quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I just think for an offensive vine like Liam Cohen

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Speaker 3: and the staff that they have down there, if you

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Speaker 3: take a mismatch the size and quality of Tyler Warren

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Speaker 3: and you put him on the field and let them maneuver,

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Speaker 3: the quarterback will have a much much better time of

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Speaker 3: executing what they want to an offense. It's a reach pick,

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Speaker 3: but I take it because he looks like he's going

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Speaker 3: to be a great player.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You know, I did a couple of Penn State games

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Speaker 1: last year, and I didn't do the Southern colgame where

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Speaker 1: he literally lined up everywhere. He snapped the ball at

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Speaker 1: one point and went out for a route how they

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Speaker 1: lined up, but he's doing the direct snap. But then

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Speaker 1: he's lined up in the slot and he's outside, he's

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Speaker 1: full back. He does He did everything for Penn State,

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Speaker 1: and then in the key moment against Ohio State, down

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Speaker 1: at the goal line, they don't give him the football

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Speaker 1: and they were turned away on fourth down. They corrected

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Speaker 1: that the next week, two direct snaps to him, two

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Speaker 1: touchdowns for Penn State at the goal line. He has

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Speaker 1: that ability to just kind of be John a gamer,

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Speaker 1: a guy that you can throw out there. You know

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be able to handle whatever you throw at

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Speaker 1: him well.

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Speaker 5: And the pick would make sense because they do use

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Speaker 5: tight ends in that way, they could find a spot

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Speaker 5: to use both Brenton.

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Speaker 6: Strange and Tyler Warren.

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Speaker 5: It would make a lot of sense for an offense

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Speaker 5: that frankly, I believe you need four guys who can

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Speaker 5: beat and make defenses nervous in the passing game. Right now,

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Speaker 5: they believe they have Brenton Strange, Brian Thomas Junior, and

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Speaker 5: John may Brown. This would give you that one more,

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Speaker 5: maybe not at the receiver position, but it would give

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Speaker 5: you at the tight end. And you know NFL has

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Speaker 5: shown us in the last ten years. When you get

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Speaker 5: a double tight end situation, if it's the right combination,

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Speaker 5: it can work in the same capacity as having three wives.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they take him at five, but who knows.

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Speaker 3: If somebody doesn't want to come up and grab someone

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Speaker 3: and you can't go back to seven or eight, who knows.

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Speaker 2: What if Hunter and Graham are gone.

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Speaker 3: Well, listen, you know who I like, but I don't

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Speaker 3: know what they think. I just if you watch Penn

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Speaker 3: State and if you're looking for highlights to back this up,

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Speaker 3: go watch, go, go, go to YouTube and find Tyler

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Speaker 3: Warren highlights. You'll enjoy watching him play.

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Speaker 2: Watched the Southern col game last year.

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Speaker 1: That was the one out at the Coliseum that just

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Speaker 1: opened everybody's eyes. I mean he touched the ball so

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Speaker 1: many times. We've got plenty ahead, Actually not plenty. This

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Speaker 1: is we're come back in a moment, We're gonna wrap

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Speaker 1: this thing up.

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Speaker 2: We're calling it at that I might have not enough ahead.

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Speaker 2: John is done after this commercial break.

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Speaker 1: On JAG's Am, Jaguars Football is presented by Fresh from Florida.

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Speaker 1: It's always in season and Welcome back to Jags Am.

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Speaker 1: JP Shadwick and for Kay Stevens.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for sex. That's Brian Sexton.

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Speaker 1: By the way, John Oser salty vets here on the

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Speaker 1: set today, Final moments here. The NFL annual meeting coming

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Speaker 1: up next week in Palm.

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Speaker 2: Beach, John, You'll be down there for sure.

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Speaker 1: And one of the big topics each owners meeting is

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Speaker 1: proposals for rule changes, and there are some high level

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Speaker 1: ones that will kind of touch on today. There's some

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Speaker 1: kind of down in the weeds football business things we'll.

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Speaker 2: Leave off today.

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Speaker 1: But the number one that's I think gonna be Oh,

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Speaker 1: there's a few controversies. Playoff seating was mentioned by one

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Speaker 1: of the teams as they wanted to change it where

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Speaker 1: a wild card team can be seated higher than a

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Speaker 1: division champion.

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Speaker 2: And I can't even believe I'm reading this.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what's the point of divisions if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: let the wild card team be seated higher.

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Speaker 2: I don't like it.

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Speaker 5: It seems like this gets brought up every five to

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Speaker 5: seven years, and the instinct from fans as always, yeah,

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Speaker 5: you know, if a team goes thirteen and four, they

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Speaker 5: usually have a home game over at ten and seventeen.

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Speaker 6: But I you guys have been around this long time.

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Speaker 5: As I have NFL owners and league people, they value

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Speaker 5: those division titles and they consider them very important.

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Speaker 6: There's rivalries among owners.

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Speaker 5: There's owners who have been in a long time who

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Speaker 5: believe the division matters, and I don't think the league

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Speaker 5: wants to. If you take that away, then why not

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Speaker 5: just have conferences like back in the strike year where

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Speaker 5: they just went one through eight and like reseated everybody.

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Speaker 5: So I understand the feeling of inequity when you see

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Speaker 5: it and it's that big of a gap. But part

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Speaker 5: of the issue too is when you get like a

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Speaker 5: nine and eight team and a ten and seventeen and

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Speaker 5: there's not that much of a gap, owner's argument becomes, well,

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Speaker 5: why should this team be punished for playing in what

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Speaker 5: perhaps is a tougher division?

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Speaker 6: And they won it, and you know, so there's both sides.

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Speaker 6: I'd be stunned if it's changed.

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I was surprised that it was

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Speaker 3: the Lions that brought it up because they had the

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Speaker 3: number one overall seed.

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Speaker 6: Last year.

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Speaker 5: You were in that situation, lost in Minnesota, so it

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Speaker 5: probably got minds thinking, and well mine start thinking dangerous stuff.

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Speaker 3: This came to light to my memory the first time

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Speaker 3: in twenty ten, when you had a Seahawks team that

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Speaker 3: made the playoffs with a losing record and they hosted

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Speaker 3: the Saints. If you recall that game, that was the

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Speaker 3: Marshawn Lynch Beast play down game to bes Quick. Absolutely,

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Speaker 3: and so ever since then they've looked at it. I

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Speaker 3: am interested in the removal of the automatic first down

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Speaker 3: on a five yard defensive holding right, because there are

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Speaker 3: so many times where you've got a guy on third

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Speaker 3: down and ten and he just holds just slightly and

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Speaker 3: it becomes a first down.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. I can't believe that rule would get changed.

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Speaker 3: I don't hold no, I'm with you, but it seems

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Speaker 3: like there's some momentum.

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Speaker 2: What's the alternative? I don't know. Five yeard penalty third

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Speaker 2: and five.

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Speaker 6: That smells that's what they want. That if they change it,

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Speaker 6: it'll be for one year. In a year, they'll go, oh, no,

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Speaker 6: that's not you know.

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Speaker 5: I think it sounds some of these rules, and it's

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Speaker 5: why the competition is why the competition committee is usually

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Speaker 5: full of experienced people who've been through it, because some

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Speaker 5: of these rules sound great on the surface, sort of

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Speaker 5: like the past interference rule, A couple of years back,

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Speaker 5: and then once you see it in play, you realize

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Speaker 5: why the NFL it is slow to change because they

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Speaker 5: don't want fiascos and to me, the holding that turns

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Speaker 5: into a lot of just hold it intentional grab. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I don't think that's what the league wants to see.

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Speaker 6: In what is an offensive centric mindset.

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Speaker 2: Overtime rules could be on the table this week.

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Speaker 1: You know the playoff rule now is that both teams

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Speaker 1: get a possession in overtime that goes fifteen minutes. Well,

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Speaker 1: the proposal is to make that the same rule in

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Speaker 1: the regular season.

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Speaker 6: Yes, that goes back, Brian, sorry interrupted you.

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Speaker 5: The competition committee will always try to air towards shorter

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Speaker 5: because of injury risks, and because of there's a belief

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Speaker 5: that fatigued players laid in games and the more plays

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Speaker 5: you play are more.

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Speaker 6: Setible an injury.

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Speaker 5: That's why they cut out back when he said the

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Speaker 5: fifteen minute over time. They're going to try to air

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Speaker 5: towards shorter because that's what players want. But at the

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Speaker 5: same time that might be one that changes. The tush

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Speaker 5: push rules also up this year.

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Speaker 3: You've got to feel at some point, since nobody else

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Speaker 3: has been able to do it like the Eagles have

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Speaker 3: that they'll finally outlaw this, and I think maybe it's

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Speaker 3: got a little traction to at least have a more

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Speaker 3: hearty discussion, because Jason Kelsey talked at length during the

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl week about how painful that process is for

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Speaker 3: a center, what dangerous it is for the interior offensive

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Speaker 3: and defensive line.

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Speaker 1: I mean, saw what happened to Chris Jones with the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs when he lined up sideways and got in the neck,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden in the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: he's trying to figure out his neck the rest of

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Speaker 1: the game.

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Speaker 5: If they can convince people that it's dangerous, then it

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Speaker 5: might get changed. I kind of think it's not going

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Speaker 5: to get changed for the simple reason that the Eagles

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Speaker 5: are the only team it's been consistously successful with it,

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Speaker 5: because then if you change that rule, the Eagles are going, well,

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Speaker 5: you know, just because we're good at something, you're changing it.

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Speaker 6: So that's sort of the conflict. I wish they'd change it.

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Speaker 5: I don't love the play, but I do wonder if

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Speaker 5: in a meeting, if Jeffrey Lourie is not going to

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Speaker 5: stand up and say, well, what happens if you come

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Speaker 5: up with a play that I don't like, So there

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Speaker 5: may be an element of that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and some of the wording of these could be

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a catch to one of it

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Speaker 1: says part of it says, you know immediately after the snap, well,

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Speaker 1: how long is immediately then you're getting into how long

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Speaker 1: can before you can push somebody. We'll see what they

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Speaker 1: come up with next week. Hey, this has been a show. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thanks guys.

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Speaker 6: You've definitely sure you jumping in.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, John, glad you made it.

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Speaker 1: How about that's John Oser, That's Brian Sexton.

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Speaker 2: I'm J. P. Shadwick.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to our entire crew and thanks to you for

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Speaker 1: watching jags Am