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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, September thirtieth, twenty twenty one, season seventeen,
Speaker 1: episode number thirty one. Welcome to the latest edition of
Speaker 1: The Break. Left in the SWBC Mortgage studios at the start, Nick,
Speaker 1: we got a little time today, so give me a
Speaker 1: thirty one. Oh let's go with Roy Williams, your boy,
Speaker 1: your boy Roy, George Teague maybe, and there's a lot
Speaker 1: Brock Marion Byron Jones, Rock Marry. That was when I
Speaker 1: first got first got to the calbum. It would just
Speaker 1: be Byron for men. I can't Who's who were Who's
Speaker 1: wearing thirty one? Right? Treyvon Diggs work for like an
Speaker 1: hour training camp and before he moved to Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think twenty seven. Yeah, yeah, I don't. I think thirty
Speaker 1: one's open right now. No, Kennedy, I'm sorry, sorry, breaking
Speaker 1: breaking news sorry, hey he got some playing time last week.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah, I love that response. No, I was
Speaker 1: honestly thinking of like in the eighties and like a
Speaker 1: thirty one. I don't know, Binny Barnes maybe played back
Speaker 1: at the seventies. He was in the seven like a
Speaker 1: basketball player. Yeah, he's in Binny Barnes. No, no, boy,
Speaker 1: he played football. He was a corner, all right, thirty one? Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, Well thanks for that, Nick Thomas Everett. Let's
Speaker 1: jump into, uh to what some of our topics for
Speaker 1: the day. Remember, we got Bucky Brooks coming up in
Speaker 1: the second segment from men IF Network. He's going to
Speaker 1: talk to us about this Carolina defense. Man, I'm a
Speaker 1: little worried about this, and we're gonna talk to them
Speaker 1: about it and get some some feedback from him on
Speaker 1: what we think of this defense. What do you just
Speaker 1: just I mean, yeah, you watch, You'll probably watch like
Speaker 1: seven plays and you're like, you know of them. Stop.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're not good, but I mean we know,
Speaker 1: we know. I get worried. I just said it yesterday,
Speaker 1: like I got PTSD as you just you just I'm
Speaker 1: all over the map. It's not even that you get worried,
Speaker 1: like you just you ride the wave like you either
Speaker 1: think that the Cowboys will never lose again or that
Speaker 1: like everything is gonna be bad. Oh by the way,
Speaker 1: and by the way, I could be like that an
Speaker 1: hour apart. That's what I'm saying. It's not even that
Speaker 1: in weeks. I already our apart. I already said this
Speaker 1: an hour apart. You were like to work on that story, man,
Speaker 1: and then like fifteen minutes later you were like, trouble.
Speaker 1: I bet you we're in trouble. I was like, there
Speaker 1: if they're not in trouble in the press box, if
Speaker 1: there was a there was a camera that showed like
Speaker 1: both of us, we would probably annoy so many people
Speaker 1: because we don't just say, like, man, that was a
Speaker 1: bad play by so and so. We kind of take
Speaker 1: it to him. Is he is he? Does he need
Speaker 1: to be cut? Like? Is he good? Like you know,
Speaker 1: like we just take this hole going to the Pro Bowl? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we go all the way in. I think people would
Speaker 1: relate to y'all because that's how fans watch the games. Maybe,
Speaker 1: so I think people would be annoyed by me because
Speaker 1: I'm just sitting there and like I look over I'm like, yep,
Speaker 1: y'all are talking cool. I'm gonna you can watch the game.
Speaker 1: Y'all can be quiet if you want to. I know,
Speaker 1: probably got some chats going on with your LSU buddies
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Like you're always cranking away on something,
Speaker 1: but that might be just tweeting. It's usually Twitter or
Speaker 1: pulling up the stats. I but you gotta remember, my
Speaker 1: friends aren't Cowboy fans, so I mean they might I'll
Speaker 1: get text people that are like, what the hell, Dave
Speaker 1: and Mari's on my fantasy team, He's not doing it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, shut up, I don't care. Like I'm like,
Speaker 1: I can do something. Yeah, I'm at work right now.
Speaker 1: I barely care about my fantasy team. You know, they're
Speaker 1: going like Joe Burrows, Joe Burrows when Yeah, when Cincinnati
Speaker 1: or Ls who are playing, it's a different story for sure.
Speaker 1: You know. Actually tonight, I'm sorry I saw that too,
Speaker 1: and I was and beals, I'm really excited about football
Speaker 1: right now, just because you know it's that time of
Speaker 1: the year. But I'm like, I'm having a hard time
Speaker 1: getting up for this one. I would speak. This happened
Speaker 1: right before Mike McCarthy's press conference. Somebody was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe I'll do that tonight. It's not like anybody wants
Speaker 1: to watch Jacks Bengals. And I was like, speak for yourself,
Speaker 1: Joey b and Jamar I'm in. I'm there. They're tweeting
Speaker 1: the game. They're white uniforms, might be the best in
Speaker 1: the league. Bengal, Oh, they're pretty They're pretty nice, dude,
Speaker 1: they are awesome. I'm not talking about the Jags, no,
Speaker 1: I mean, and they're fine, but now I don't know
Speaker 1: the Bengals. They got it. The arrow's definitely going up
Speaker 1: right now. I mean for them. I know we don't
Speaker 1: play them and we're not supposed to be talking about them,
Speaker 1: but well, you know, one of the interesting things, I'll
Speaker 1: tie it back to the Cowboys. I just read this
Speaker 1: morning Cheeta Woozya, who was signed by them in the offseason,
Speaker 1: cornerback now starting for them. He has the lowest completion
Speaker 1: percentage against him when he's been targeted in the entire
Speaker 1: NFL through three different and it made me wonder like,
Speaker 1: and I don't remember. You guys know way more and
Speaker 1: keep up with this a lot more than I do.
Speaker 1: But what was the deal. What did he gets signed
Speaker 1: for in Cincinnati? It was like load of mid twenties,
Speaker 1: Like three years, I want to say, three years twenty
Speaker 1: two million dollars or like double deal for a cornerback,
Speaker 1: starting corner. That is a good price for a starting
Speaker 1: caliber corner. Yeah, for sure. But they had no room
Speaker 1: for him because they were gonna draft one of these
Speaker 1: two guys. Yeah, you know they were gonna draft one.
Speaker 1: But but but how would you feel right now if he
Speaker 1: was on the up It was three years twenty one
Speaker 1: point seven I was close. Yeah, how would you feel
Speaker 1: right now if he was opposite Diggs? Would you feel
Speaker 1: better about that than you do with Anthony Brown? No,
Speaker 1: you gotta like Yetta. Remember, like there was no way
Speaker 1: any of those two corners weren't going to be there
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys in their mind, like they're gonna get
Speaker 1: a corner here, they're gonna take one of these things.
Speaker 1: They thought they were getting one first round. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be we're gonna have one of those guys with Diggs,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna be often run. The way the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have played this is perfect. Yeah, Anthony Brown's not amazing.
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis is fine. That's that's okay because they didn't
Speaker 1: invest in them to be guys that. This is not
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith where you're like, what are we gonna do
Speaker 1: with this contract? Ye, Like, the minute Kelvin Joseph steps
Speaker 1: up or if he even if he doesn't like, you
Speaker 1: can just keep drafting that. And you can either let
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown's already this is the second year of his extension,
Speaker 1: so he's already only got one year left after this year.
Speaker 1: And by the way, the guarantees are done, you can
Speaker 1: move on from that whenever you want to. You can
Speaker 1: move on from Anthony Brown or Jordan right now. And
Speaker 1: the cap hit is negligible by NFL standards, so they're serviceable.
Speaker 1: They're good enough for now. They're bridge players. That's Brian
Speaker 1: brought us. Where are you at, buddy, You're building a
Speaker 1: bridge with this player waiting for these young guys. It's
Speaker 1: unfortunate Kelvin. It's unfortunate that Kelvin Joseph isn't ready right now.
Speaker 1: But the way they played this is great. And by
Speaker 1: the way, drafting Kelvin Joseph in the second round doesn't
Speaker 1: stop them from drafting a cornerback in the first round.
Speaker 1: Next year, if that's how it falls. It's so I
Speaker 1: thought about that too. But I've got another position that
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I'm not saying they need to draft
Speaker 1: a corner in the first round, but offensive line, like center,
Speaker 1: Like like I'm and I'm thinking, you know, like if
Speaker 1: you're if you're picking thirty seconds, you can, um you
Speaker 1: just threw that out now. It just kind of right. Hey,
Speaker 1: they've picked thirty second before, and I think it was
Speaker 1: the year they got Frederick and they got a center.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying they weren't in the game. But yeah,
Speaker 1: they got thirty They'll be in the twenties. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is a good football I think. I mean they'll
Speaker 1: be They'll be in the twenties. That's where you can
Speaker 1: get you can get superior talent and value at a
Speaker 1: position like that. So we'll see. Be honest, he's gotta
Speaker 1: get you gotta get better. They're gonna ride with him here,
Speaker 1: I think, you know, and I don't know if he
Speaker 1: played poorly. I know a couple of plays where he didn't. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll do in the in the final segment, we actually
Speaker 1: going to spend some time on the offensive line because
Speaker 1: I really want to talk about a couple of different
Speaker 1: guys in that offensive line and the other part to this,
Speaker 1: and we'll talk a little bit to Bucky about this.
Speaker 1: This may be the best if you go across the line,
Speaker 1: this may be the best line that they will face
Speaker 1: to this point, at least how they're playing this year,
Speaker 1: because I know the Bucks are still the Bucks, and
Speaker 1: their defense last year was probably the best in the league,
Speaker 1: among the best in the league for sure, But thinking
Speaker 1: about how they're playing this year, this may be a
Speaker 1: This is definitely a very talented offensive line, I mean
Speaker 1: defense line they'll be facing. So I want to seek
Speaker 1: out how those guys are going to relate there. Um.
Speaker 1: I did have one question. We were talking about the
Speaker 1: cornerbacks and with regards to Treyvon digs. We had a
Speaker 1: question from Twitter from Randall Walker. He said, with Treyvon
Speaker 1: shadowing receivers, now can he also cover them when he's
Speaker 1: lined up in the slot. What have you guys seen
Speaker 1: as far as when he's traveling, how much does he
Speaker 1: move around? Does he go into the slot or does
Speaker 1: he pretty much stay on the outside. That's a really
Speaker 1: good question, and I feel like I've seen him think
Speaker 1: I've seen him in there too. But you know, all
Speaker 1: it all depends on who you're playing and what do
Speaker 1: they do, you know. Um, but I know Keenan Allen
Speaker 1: is a line up everywhere type of guy. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he actually you know what. After the game
Speaker 1: we got Treyvon Diggs against the Chargers and I asked
Speaker 1: him about that. He said, yeah, he pretty much went
Speaker 1: with him every snap except for a couple of times
Speaker 1: when we went into zone and some coverages on third down.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that meant slot or not. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think he can't. He can do it. He can
Speaker 1: go in there, you know. Again, I say it a
Speaker 1: thousand times, but you know, when he moves around, a
Speaker 1: lot of people are moving around too, So you got
Speaker 1: to give credit to, you know, the whole defense for
Speaker 1: adjusting as well. Yeah, I hate to I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: keep bitching about game pass. It's awful. My tape study
Speaker 1: is not where I want it to be right now.
Speaker 1: I will get better as the season goes. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, I can't remember him being in the slot
Speaker 1: a ton, but I have all the confidence in the
Speaker 1: world that he could if they needed him too, So
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Yeah, Keenan Allen does that. I would
Speaker 1: play him wherever I felt like he needed to be.
Speaker 1: I don't care where it is. Sometimes it's a domino
Speaker 1: effect of it too, and I always go back to
Speaker 1: you know, I think I think Dez Bryant made Cole
Speaker 1: Beasley's career because des was limited in the slot. He
Speaker 1: couldn't play the slot, Beasley couldn't play on the outside.
Speaker 1: So Beasley always had a role in the slot because
Speaker 1: Dez was always going to be on the outside. I
Speaker 1: always have cornerbacks like Jordan Lewis that they don't think
Speaker 1: they really want to put on the outside. So therefore,
Speaker 1: you know, you want to if you put digs inside,
Speaker 1: then who goes to the outside, and that where might
Speaker 1: be a mismatch that they don't want to get into.
Speaker 1: So that's why I don't think it's not that he couldn't.
Speaker 1: I think it's probably because some other inside guys aren't
Speaker 1: as good on the outside. Worth there you go. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's a lot good. Yeah, it's a good pull by Beam. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you, sir, get it our producer, Chris Beam, thank
Speaker 1: you for that information. But yeah, that that says a
Speaker 1: lot about his ability. Eight And that was a website
Speaker 1: or be him just charts this. He might chart it
Speaker 1: as he's as he shoots slot with watching it with
Speaker 1: one eye here. Yeah, so they've probably played a little
Speaker 1: bit more somewhere, Like I'm guessing they've probably played like
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty snaps. One was fifty four last week.
Speaker 1: So what's I mean, that's a little that's like somewhere
Speaker 1: in the teens in terms of nine snaps. One hundred
Speaker 1: short enough. I was gonna stay with like fifty, you know,
Speaker 1: one thing. One ninety feels like a lot for three
Speaker 1: games one twenty eight in the slot and hold on
Speaker 1: one second either. But so it's it's not a huge
Speaker 1: percentage it did, I mean twenty eight, but it means
Speaker 1: he can. The point is it can, And that's I
Speaker 1: think what the question was is can he truly follow
Speaker 1: a guy if they wanted him too, for the entire game,
Speaker 1: no matter where he goes, And I think he can.
Speaker 1: I would not limit him if I like, if that's
Speaker 1: what the game plan called for, I'm cool with it.
Speaker 1: I just again, if that means Jordan Lewis is lining
Speaker 1: up on the outside, that that might be more of
Speaker 1: a problem than letting letting Digs just not take the
Speaker 1: star receiver when he goes inside. Jordan. We've seen Jordan Lewis,
Speaker 1: I mean, wasn't a ton of plays, but we've seen
Speaker 1: him stay with guys like Kamar for a little bit.
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis is a good player quick and he's one,
Speaker 1: you know, weird play away from We're talking about him
Speaker 1: all week. If he that ball popped right now, he
Speaker 1: came quick. It was that was that wasn't really a drop.
Speaker 1: But if he catches at walks into the end zone,
Speaker 1: it's not a drop. And I'm I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: trash talk Jordan, but that's what I was talking about.
Speaker 1: People are like, oh, yeah, the Digs, the Digs pick
Speaker 1: against Tampa, whatever, that's a bobble ball, right, not guaranteed
Speaker 1: to make those plays. We haven't seen Dallas cornerbacks make
Speaker 1: those plays. I think the bounce on Jordan was tougher
Speaker 1: than the bounce to Diggs. Came a lot faster. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Diggs's play was a little bit easier to make. But
Speaker 1: I'm not taking for granted that a Dallas cornerback can
Speaker 1: make that play because we just haven't seen it often. Jordan,
Speaker 1: I mean Diggs never played offense. I mean, Jordan, has
Speaker 1: Diggs played receiver at Bama? No? You mean, oh yeah, mister,
Speaker 1: but the jet sweep extraordinary? Yeah? Yeah, you remember that.
Speaker 1: Ye I'm telling you, if they ever needed, if they
Speaker 1: ever needed something like that, I think Diggs could play receiver.
Speaker 1: I think for sure. I mean, like now, they why
Speaker 1: why they don't stay over there? They don't. They don't
Speaker 1: like the best receiver. They don't need it. I don't
Speaker 1: think he would be. You know, he's not better than
Speaker 1: like too much. I'm not. I'm not. I'm saying, but
Speaker 1: like you got enough injuries where you need an extra
Speaker 1: Maybe he's got great hands. You could you you can
Speaker 1: just see the interception the play that he made. And
Speaker 1: let's talk about him real quick. I mean, Dave wrote
Speaker 1: the story NFC the NFC Defensive Player of the Month
Speaker 1: the month the month Big September will be over by
Speaker 1: the time they play. What is there to say? Three picks,
Speaker 1: a touchdown, six pass breakups, which is leading the league.
Speaker 1: Um Dallas past defense is top ten. I don't think
Speaker 1: I realized that. But it's March. Mickey's gonna answer this
Speaker 1: one for you. Tell me the last time this has happened.
Speaker 1: I mean, whatever you're about to ask, that was the question, Yeah, Mickey,
Speaker 1: because he sits with the guy, Everson Walls. Everson Walls
Speaker 1: the last No, no, no, I'm saying, the last time
Speaker 1: the Cowboys had a defensive player named Defensive Player of
Speaker 1: the Month in the NFL, it's probably d Ware, I'm guessing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my memory is not as great as I think it
Speaker 1: used to be, but I'm pretty sure that a player
Speaker 1: has never won this in the time that I've covered
Speaker 1: the team. Twenty thirteen was your first year, right, which
Speaker 1: not a huge stretch of time, but yeah, right to it.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're guessing it was back in the
Speaker 1: in the weird days. I don't think it's the heyday
Speaker 1: of DeMarcus Square of the Month. Yeah, you never know.
Speaker 1: I mean, and if you want to talk about cornerbacks, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: good luck with that. Final think ten who did it?
Speaker 1: I'm guessing no. He never was a big interception guy,
Speaker 1: and to do that you gotta get some Intersett got.
Speaker 1: Roy Williams might have. But but yeah, it's true da
Speaker 1: Dave's era. I don't know, I don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: I can't think of a guy that did it. He's
Speaker 1: been a revelation. Like I knew he was good. I
Speaker 1: was reluctant to say he was this good because Obama. No,
Speaker 1: not just just mainly because I've been burned before. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because Obama. Seriously, though, I wrote this article after it happened.
Speaker 1: I mean, first round picks were good, a great at Alabama.
Speaker 1: But second pick, second round picks and on it's been
Speaker 1: it's been hit and miss. Yeah, you know for them,
Speaker 1: So I think they get taken because they were really
Speaker 1: good players there, but they get you know, sometimes you
Speaker 1: don't know if it's because of all the talent around them.
Speaker 1: And I'm very surprised at what he's been able to do. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I don't wanna. Yeah I am. I did. There's no
Speaker 1: other way to say it. Like I thought he was
Speaker 1: a good player. I thought he had a good rookie year.
Speaker 1: Now I'm like, damn, is he like a top Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean maybe it's it's too soon to say top ten,
Speaker 1: but and I think you have to break it down.
Speaker 1: I was talking about this on the radio today, like
Speaker 1: you can't compare a second year corner who's a month
Speaker 1: into a second year to Jalen Ramsey, who's been doing
Speaker 1: this for five years. Like the pecking orders are a
Speaker 1: little bit different, but like among the younger players, guys
Speaker 1: who are still on their rookie deals, he's yeah, he's
Speaker 1: in the conversation. He played sixteen games, yet I don't
Speaker 1: think he has didn't he missed like four, He missed
Speaker 1: a few last year. I gotta have to losk get up.
Speaker 1: He's probably played like fifteen or so games, and so
Speaker 1: think about it. And I know that's hard to say
Speaker 1: like a sixteen game because he's had two training camps
Speaker 1: and three seasons stuff like that, But sixteen games. I
Speaker 1: think he's about to play a sixteenth game. If you
Speaker 1: were sitting there to say, hey, he's got six interceptions,
Speaker 1: I mean that would be that would be a monster rookie.
Speaker 1: Here's the fastest player to it since Marcus Peters. The
Speaker 1: last defensive plays of the Good Company for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: was the Marcus Lawrence in September twenty seventeen. Damn it's seventeen.
Speaker 1: That was Remember he started that year with like seven sacks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he got four sacks against Denver in that blowout, and
Speaker 1: he had like he tore it up. I forgot about that,
Speaker 1: and then Shawn Lee had it twice September of thirteen
Speaker 1: and said October thirteen and I sucked. Then I promise
Speaker 1: you that they played. Shaun Lee played the Eagles in
Speaker 1: that month, maybe twice because he was his team. He
Speaker 1: also looked up September. September thirteen was when he had um.
Speaker 1: He had that pick six against the Chargers that year too,
Speaker 1: and that was in September. Didn't he get hurt that game?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I'll never He picked six
Speaker 1: Rivers and they had a big lead at halftime, and
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, they're rolling, and then like
Speaker 1: they got their asses kicked in the second. I think
Speaker 1: he got hurt in that game because d d Where
Speaker 1: threw a player onto his foot and broke his toe
Speaker 1: and he got hurt. Yeah, d Where just toss some
Speaker 1: guy around. See you, I can tell like we're all
Speaker 1: in a great mood and have energy today because we're
Speaker 1: just all over the freaking place and I do need
Speaker 1: to take a break. We talked about the Bengals before
Speaker 1: we talked about any other player. But I brought it
Speaker 1: back to the count. You did you swear you put
Speaker 1: it back in the right so we're gonna gonna take
Speaker 1: our first break and we come back. We'll be joining
Speaker 1: about Bucky Brooks of NFL Network. We'll talk about the
Speaker 1: Carolina defense. His defense is pretty good. We're gonna get
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Speaker 1: Happened last night? And they've just watched The Survivor. I
Speaker 1: haven't watched The Survivor. I watched the second episode last night.
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Speaker 1: and it's like the funny thing was like right now,
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Speaker 1: Danny McCrae, professional football players just over here carrying these comps. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's fun though, I mean it is I've never watched
Speaker 1: Survivor before, but this season I'm definitely in. I'm having
Speaker 1: a good time watching it. So yeah, all right. He
Speaker 1: did this morning that the editing process kind of helped
Speaker 1: him out a little bit. He said, Yeah, he said,
Speaker 1: if they would have showed everything that happened and that challenge,
Speaker 1: it would have been embarrassing because like they ended out,
Speaker 1: they did me right, Oh, I could tell. I could
Speaker 1: tell he was kind of tired, and that challenge looked
Speaker 1: like it was kind of Yeah, especially five days of
Speaker 1: not eating and then you go do that challenge. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that sounds like that would be really really hard. All Right.
Speaker 1: We're joined right now by Bucky Brooks of NFL Network. Bucky,
Speaker 1: welcome to the show. Let's talk about this Carolina defense.
Speaker 1: And I'll start first with Carolina's a lot the fewest
Speaker 1: yards and second fewest points this season. This is more
Speaker 1: of a reflection of who they've played. They've played the
Speaker 1: Jets in New Orleans and Houston, or is this defense
Speaker 1: really that good? Defense? Is really good? They're really good
Speaker 1: because they're fast, they're athletic, they can get after you.
Speaker 1: And I think when you talk to Matt Rule, and
Speaker 1: I had a chance to talk to him while he
Speaker 1: was at bailing, he talked about rebuilding programs. He's on
Speaker 1: the number one thing that you have to do on
Speaker 1: D fenses. You gotta put speed on the field. And
Speaker 1: I don't care where they come from. You gotta be
Speaker 1: able to put a fast and explosive team on the field.
Speaker 1: And when I look at the Carolina Panthers, they have
Speaker 1: certainly followed suit when it comes to their premise. They
Speaker 1: have dbs playing at linebacker. They have guys who should
Speaker 1: be linebackers putting their hand in the dirt like Brian Burns,
Speaker 1: And because they're so fast and athletic, they overwhelm you
Speaker 1: with their collective explosiveness. And you have a real snow
Speaker 1: who is a little creative and out of the box,
Speaker 1: and it puts a lot of pressure on you as
Speaker 1: an offense to figure it out. So that being said, obviously.
Speaker 1: You know, it sounds like they have a track team
Speaker 1: going on defense. That means we'll probably see the Cowboys
Speaker 1: trying to attack them by running the ball at them.
Speaker 1: I mean, because they can't be that powerful if they're
Speaker 1: going to be that fast, right, Yeah, the parliament is
Speaker 1: You've got big Dick brown sitting up in the middle
Speaker 1: of their defense, and Derek Browning can be a handful,
Speaker 1: and you know, like he hasn't put up like these
Speaker 1: crazy numbers, but he does enough to let the other
Speaker 1: guys eat. Shack Thompson is having a good year because
Speaker 1: run is up in the middle of commanding double teams
Speaker 1: and allowing those guys to run in chase. When Jimmy
Speaker 1: Box Jimmy Chen decides to get into the box, then
Speaker 1: it becomes an issue. So the Bara box out of defense.
Speaker 1: They're tough Man Rule has done a great job of
Speaker 1: making sure that they play hard and they played with
Speaker 1: a level of toughness and physicality. So this will be
Speaker 1: kind of a test of wheels, particularly if the Cowboys
Speaker 1: elect to run the football at them. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: a heavyweight fight, an old school fifteen round heavywey fighter.
Speaker 1: The line of scrimmage Bucky. I know enough to know
Speaker 1: that Brian Burns is one of the best young pass
Speaker 1: rushers in the NFL right now, but I don't know
Speaker 1: his game enough to know how versatile he is and
Speaker 1: is the I mean, does he play in one spot?
Speaker 1: Did they move him wherever the matchup is? Obviously I'm
Speaker 1: asking because I mean, are they just gonna put him
Speaker 1: over Terrence Steele and say have fun? Or what are
Speaker 1: we looking at here? Well, what you're looking at this
Speaker 1: guy who is a speed rusher and a speed rusher
Speaker 1: only the best thing that he does is man He
Speaker 1: just gets up to feel the ball. He has great
Speaker 1: snapcount anticipation in first step quickness, and so if you're
Speaker 1: laid out of your stands, he's by you now. To
Speaker 1: be honest, because he's not a big fan of mine.
Speaker 1: Going on the back to when he was coming out
Speaker 1: of college, like he's kind of a one trick pony, right,
Speaker 1: He's gonna either gonna come up the field or he's
Speaker 1: gonna do a spin move. And a lot of his
Speaker 1: sex are kind of sex on air. It's a blown protection.
Speaker 1: The running back forgets to pick him up and he
Speaker 1: kind of falls into it. That's it. He does have
Speaker 1: a lot of speeding. He can chase it down from
Speaker 1: the back side. The main thing that you have to
Speaker 1: do with him you got to put a body on him.
Speaker 1: If you put a body on him, then you can
Speaker 1: nullify him. But if you fall asleep at the whee
Speaker 1: hever run passion, he certainly are knocked down. The quarterback
Speaker 1: sounds like this defense is really good. The numbers reflected
Speaker 1: they are number one against the past, there number one
Speaker 1: against the run. If you had to choose one of
Speaker 1: the two and say this is where you would have
Speaker 1: potentially more success than the other, would you pass predominantly
Speaker 1: or would you run predominantly against this defense? I think
Speaker 1: he'd be I think you're balanced. I think as much
Speaker 1: as I can give Matt rule and feel Snow and
Speaker 1: all those guys their flowers, I don't think if you
Speaker 1: the Cowboys offense, that you're blinking at the on the
Speaker 1: other side. I think you do what you do and
Speaker 1: then you adjust accordingly. I think the best thing that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have done is they've been balanced. And I
Speaker 1: think Kellen Moore said as I saw Dave retweeted this
Speaker 1: when he talked about the man as players not plays.
Speaker 1: He basically kind of boiled down to that we got
Speaker 1: better players. So it doesn't matter what plays I call.
Speaker 1: I just need to get the ball to the best players.
Speaker 1: And I think that is the premise that worked well
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys Zeke, Tony Powler to Marie Cooper, Ceedee Lamb.
Speaker 1: When they get their touches, more likely than not they're
Speaker 1: better than the opponent. And so the Cowboys just need
Speaker 1: to play the game. I will say when they run
Speaker 1: the football and it's a little closer to the fifty
Speaker 1: fifty balance, it helps the defense because you're not defending
Speaker 1: as many plays and so just being mindful of time
Speaker 1: possession and the number of plays that you're running on
Speaker 1: offense that is to the benefit of the defense. But
Speaker 1: I think you line up and you play, you see
Speaker 1: how they're playing because you have favorable matchups on the outside.
Speaker 1: I think you attacked him throwing it. But I think
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, man, when you running
Speaker 1: it with Zeke and Tony Potter like that is a problem.
Speaker 1: I know sometimes when you look at offensive lineman, they
Speaker 1: give up a sack or you know, some penalties and
Speaker 1: you think, well, they're having a bad game. But you know,
Speaker 1: there's fifty sixty other players that they do. All right,
Speaker 1: where's Tyler be Odish in this? In your mind? As
Speaker 1: far as whereas he's how he's playing here, he struggled
Speaker 1: a little bit. Now. The one thing about guys inside
Speaker 1: you can cover them up, you know, in the offensive line.
Speaker 1: The offensive line is as good as your weakest link.
Speaker 1: And he when he's on the field, for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: you know, he just hasn't been able power pusher. And
Speaker 1: that is really odd because when you think about Wisconsin lineman,
Speaker 1: you think about Wisconsin and moving people off the ball
Speaker 1: and the level of success that they've had with guys
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. He has kind of falling
Speaker 1: shorter that standard. That's it. The Cowboys having ability to
Speaker 1: cover him up. They've been able to kind of hide
Speaker 1: him within like the collective unit. But he certainly hasn't
Speaker 1: played well enough to kind of like allow the Cowboys
Speaker 1: to play at peak performance. Hopefully his play improves and
Speaker 1: they're able to kind of make up for the weak
Speaker 1: link that they're kind of protecting. I know you're not
Speaker 1: in Phil Snow's meeting rooms, so I don't want to
Speaker 1: put you on the spot too much. I can't expect
Speaker 1: you to know this, but just as a general thought,
Speaker 1: I'm curious they traded for CJ. Henderson on Monday, first
Speaker 1: round pick out of Jacksonville. He practiced fully yesterday, so
Speaker 1: he's healthy enough to participate in practice. He's had three
Speaker 1: days to look at the playbook. What do you do
Speaker 1: with a guy like that in this scenario. I assume
Speaker 1: he's going to be active for this game. Can you
Speaker 1: trust a guy like that to have it all down
Speaker 1: and play a full game? Or what do you do
Speaker 1: in that scenario If it's you, Oh, I'm playing him
Speaker 1: and I'll put him on the field right away. He
Speaker 1: automatically goes onto the field in Nickel packages. We've got
Speaker 1: to figure out a way to work around them. Look, man,
Speaker 1: it's not real complicated. When you have really talented players,
Speaker 1: you try and make it very simple for them. And
Speaker 1: knowing how they think in Carolina, they're gonna make it
Speaker 1: very easy for him to be able to go play.
Speaker 1: I think they're benefited from the fact that a lot
Speaker 1: of their coaches come from the collegiate game, and when
Speaker 1: you come from the college game, you're used to doing
Speaker 1: these quick turnarounds because you may have a freshman that
Speaker 1: comes off the street. You gotta get them ready to play,
Speaker 1: so you figure ready to make it very very simple
Speaker 1: for the players who has talent can shine. Whether Panthers
Speaker 1: want is they want to put together a collection of
Speaker 1: dynamic athletes on defense that can overrun you with their
Speaker 1: athleticism and speed, and so they will find a way
Speaker 1: to either lot C. J. Henderson up in man coverage,
Speaker 1: play some simple sigmon zones, but they're going to put
Speaker 1: them on the field. I would expect the same player
Speaker 1: prominent role. Carolina leads the league right now in quarterback
Speaker 1: pressures with forty seven. Talk to me about how they're
Speaker 1: doing it is Is it primarily with just the front four?
Speaker 1: Do they blitz? Do they do a lot of stunts?
Speaker 1: Like what are they doing in order to generate the
Speaker 1: pressure that they're generating against their opponents. It's all of
Speaker 1: the above they do at all man they line up.
Speaker 1: If they can beat you with four, they beat you
Speaker 1: with four. Because their speed, Brian Burns and the speed
Speaker 1: off the edges can be problematic. If they need to
Speaker 1: dial a left and bring some pressure. Their bring shack.
Speaker 1: Times they're bring some of the other guys to create
Speaker 1: a their bring corners off the edge. There is nothing
Speaker 1: in the playbook that they won't utilize. And so one
Speaker 1: of the things when we talk about speed, because the
Speaker 1: common denominator is speed, when you have a fast defense,
Speaker 1: you can create disruption, and disruption brings about those negative
Speaker 1: plays and those things. As the Cowboys defense has gotten faster,
Speaker 1: when you put Mike and some of those other guys
Speaker 1: on the field, the turners kind of happened because speed
Speaker 1: creates disruption. And so it's the same thing for the
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. They got more speed on the field. They
Speaker 1: can run down play with great effort, make up your
Speaker 1: mistakes with your effort and your athleticism, and that's where
Speaker 1: they're doing. That's what they have in success, all right.
Speaker 1: So tell us who's gonna win what he thinks gonna
Speaker 1: have on Sunday at noon at at and T Stadium.
Speaker 1: So I think this is a statement game for the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, right because the narrative has changed. Now the
Speaker 1: conversation around town and around the countries. Oh, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are real, They're legit. This is an opportunity for them
Speaker 1: to be a Super Bowl contendent and all of those things.
Speaker 1: This is a test of the maturity of the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Have they grown over the past couple of years to
Speaker 1: being a team that, oh, when they're expected to win,
Speaker 1: they can win. I expect them to win. But to me,
Speaker 1: I'm looking to see how do they go about handling
Speaker 1: their business because this is a game that I think
Speaker 1: they should win. Can they go about just chopping win
Speaker 1: and taking care of business right from the jump, or
Speaker 1: do they backslide a little bit because of all the
Speaker 1: noise has been so positive that then they get complacent
Speaker 1: and they kind of lose their focus on what is
Speaker 1: really important. All right, but if we appreciate you joining us,
Speaker 1: we'll be back, thank you again next week and talk
Speaker 1: a little bit more about the Cowboys Week four opponent.
Speaker 1: We'll do that. We're gonna take our final break, come back.
Speaker 1: We'll get some questions for these guys on this Dallas
Speaker 1: offense in this matchup with the Carolina defense. Will be
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Speaker 1: Welcome back, final segment of the Break Life in s
Speaker 1: WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. Before we end the show,
Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit more about this
Speaker 1: Cowboys offense relative to the Carolina defense. But I want
Speaker 1: to start I want to zero in a little bit
Speaker 1: here on the Cowboys offensive line. I want to get
Speaker 1: some opinions from you guys on how you think, particularly
Speaker 1: three guys on the offensive live played against Philadelphia, really
Speaker 1: just how how they've played throughout the year. We talked
Speaker 1: a little bit about beadishu, Connor Williams, Terrence Steele. How
Speaker 1: do you think those three guys in particular have played,
Speaker 1: particularly last week and over the course of the season
Speaker 1: as much as they've played. I think Steele, Um, and
Speaker 1: this isn't really I think if you throw expectations out
Speaker 1: the window, I think Steele has played the best of
Speaker 1: those three. Wow. Well, I mean you didn't hear holding
Speaker 1: seventy eight four times? Yeah, I mean Connor Williams had
Speaker 1: a hard time blocking and Beotish costs him fourteen points. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: and on both goal lines. He just I thought that
Speaker 1: that quarterback sneak yes, Dad got in in my opinion,
Speaker 1: but Beondish went straight to the ground and he had
Speaker 1: to kind of shift over to the right here. He
Speaker 1: didn't get any push at all. And of course we
Speaker 1: know what happened on the other one, so be honest,
Speaker 1: you know. But they are they are getting four hundred
Speaker 1: yards of offense, but they were running it, they were
Speaker 1: moving it. I don't want to fault them all, but
Speaker 1: I think in the past game, I think I think
Speaker 1: they've struggled a little bit there, especially Connor in this
Speaker 1: last game. Yeah, I'm really I'm conflicted about Tyler Beotish.
Speaker 1: It's it's that's a hard thing to decipher because I yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's fair to call him the weak link
Speaker 1: of this offensive line right now. I also think it's
Speaker 1: fair to point out he's he just started his seventh
Speaker 1: NFL game and somebody somebody called me on that the
Speaker 1: other day. They were like, he played all last year.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, he started four times because Joe
Speaker 1: got hurt, and when Joe came back, he left the lineup.
Speaker 1: He started four games. He's barely played by NFL standards.
Speaker 1: He was a fourth round pick. Also, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: there's some there's some Travis Frederick association going on that
Speaker 1: doesn't do Tyler any favors, Like he's not Travis Frederick.
Speaker 1: Travis Fredrick was the best center in football. Um and
Speaker 1: and also he's he's gone against Vitava and indamackin sue,
Speaker 1: Javon Hargrave and Fletcher Cox, which for all, for as
Speaker 1: much as everybody respects Fletcher Cox, Hargrave is playing better.
Speaker 1: He showed it freak o. No, by the way, Derek
Speaker 1: Brown on deck, he's he's gross too. Top ten pick
Speaker 1: last year. Just hard, hard guy to deal with. And
Speaker 1: I get it. It's troubling because you're gonna have those
Speaker 1: matchups throughout the season. I understand that even you know,
Speaker 1: the Giants look like they suck. They have Leonard Williams,
Speaker 1: like it doesn't get easier in the NFL. But I
Speaker 1: still feel like the guy deserves a little bit of slack.
Speaker 1: And again the expectation, like you get so used to
Speaker 1: watching Hall of Fame caliber players play offensive line for
Speaker 1: this team, you got to make do with less than
Speaker 1: that in a lot of cases, and Tyler hasn't been
Speaker 1: so bad that it's thrown the offense off of schedule.
Speaker 1: I mean they're moving the ball and scoring points in
Speaker 1: every game they've played so far, so as you've been great,
Speaker 1: not at all, am I just breaking all the glass
Speaker 1: and pressing all the panic buttons. Not yet. So let's
Speaker 1: let's take this question to the next level. I mentioned
Speaker 1: when we were talking to Bucky, Carolina leads a league
Speaker 1: in quarterback pressures. If you look at the other opponent
Speaker 1: the other opponents at Dallas has faced all three of
Speaker 1: them in the bottom half of the league and quarterback pressures.
Speaker 1: Are you'd all concerned that going into this game that
Speaker 1: this may be a team that pressures way more than
Speaker 1: what you've seen. And those two guys, I guess because
Speaker 1: you guys feel like stell has been pretty good. Those
Speaker 1: two guys Williams and and be Odist, are you at
Speaker 1: all concerned about what they're going to be facing this
Speaker 1: week against the team that sends a lot of pressure and,
Speaker 1: as Buckie said, sends pressure on a lot of different
Speaker 1: kinds of ways. Not as concerned because of Zekiel Elliott.
Speaker 1: And I don't mean that as a pass blocker. I
Speaker 1: just mean as a runner. I think that that I
Speaker 1: don't know what the Jets have in their running game
Speaker 1: I don't know what Houston has. Saints, you know, they
Speaker 1: have Kamara, but they don't really use him the way
Speaker 1: the Cowboys like to use obviously Zeke, and they're in
Speaker 1: they're running attack. So I think the Cowboys running attack
Speaker 1: is going to kind of set the tone of this
Speaker 1: and maybe keep that, you know, keep the pass rush
Speaker 1: off a little bit, because you know, like I asked Bucky,
Speaker 1: I mean, you can have the fastest guys in the world,
Speaker 1: but I mean they're probably gonna give up some here
Speaker 1: in the running, he said. He said, safeties are playing linebackers.
Speaker 1: Linebackers are either hand or the dirt. Well, you gotta
Speaker 1: better be able to run on them. And I think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have a running game, unlike the other three
Speaker 1: teams they face so far, to at least offset what
Speaker 1: some of this pass rush will be. I'm worried about it,
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm glad you've phrased it that way, because
Speaker 1: I think we're we're being remiss. We haven't mentioned an
Speaker 1: important name in this matchup yet. He's actually he's the
Speaker 1: guy leading the Panthers in sacks right now, and that's
Speaker 1: Hassan Reddick, former top fifteen pick Arizona had a breakout
Speaker 1: year last year. He's in Carolina because I don't know
Speaker 1: this for sure, but it's a hell of a dot
Speaker 1: to connect. Matt Rule was his coach at Temple. Matt
Speaker 1: Rule knows his strengths and knows how to use him.
Speaker 1: He's a hybrid guy. He can do some linebacker stuff,
Speaker 1: he can play on the edge. He's got four and
Speaker 1: a half sacks already this season. He's a Michael Parsons.
Speaker 1: I mean he's not. He's not. He's like a He's
Speaker 1: a bulky or less bindy Micah Parsons. But he you
Speaker 1: can use him in that Swiss army knife kind of
Speaker 1: way where you can create a lot of havoc with
Speaker 1: a guy like that. You can blitz him, you can
Speaker 1: play him on the edge. He can hold He's big
Speaker 1: enough to hold up against the run. Now you can
Speaker 1: get into conversations where you show blitz and drop him,
Speaker 1: and now Deck's got to deal with that. So there's
Speaker 1: just I just say that to say there's a lot
Speaker 1: of ways that they can throw stuff at this offensive line,
Speaker 1: and with what we've already seen from those three in particular, yeah,
Speaker 1: it should be concerning. And I think they're gonna need
Speaker 1: to call plays to offset that, like they should call
Speaker 1: their offense to offset pressure, because I think it's going
Speaker 1: to be coming out of a lot and because they
Speaker 1: do it in a lot of ways. Why I'm most
Speaker 1: concerned is still and be honest in their inexperience. I
Speaker 1: know Steele got a lot of experience last year, relatively
Speaker 1: speaking for his rookie year, but that all being said,
Speaker 1: he still is just a second year player, and so
Speaker 1: the relative inexperience of those two guys, I wonder how
Speaker 1: much that can be taken advantage of by a defense
Speaker 1: that does a lot of different things and has a
Speaker 1: lot of speed, so you don't have time to react
Speaker 1: if you if you're lost, like they're gonna be by you.
Speaker 1: As Bucky was saying a little earlier, that part does
Speaker 1: concern me a little bit. Now here's another thing. I
Speaker 1: want to talk about Dallas's strategy offensively, and we've heard
Speaker 1: this from Kellen Moore a few times. We aggressively take
Speaker 1: what the defense gives us. So what do you do
Speaker 1: when you're facing a team that's equally good against the
Speaker 1: run and against the pass, When you know you typically
Speaker 1: look for where they will have a little bit more
Speaker 1: of a deficiency, and that's where you kind of attack them.
Speaker 1: I'm not sold on this secondary and that's and again
Speaker 1: you know this, it's the NFL. The results are what
Speaker 1: they are. At a certain point, I don't care who
Speaker 1: they've beaten. They still deserve credit for doing these things.
Speaker 1: But you look at the quarterbacks that they've played, and
Speaker 1: even then the receiver corps that they've played. The Jets
Speaker 1: have a rookie quarterback behind a bang UPO line with
Speaker 1: little in the way of skill players. The Saints were
Speaker 1: a mess that week. It's still breaking in an offense.
Speaker 1: Even when they beat the crap out of Green Bay
Speaker 1: Week one, they only threw for like one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty yards. They don't have a Yeah, they don't have
Speaker 1: skill players beyond Michael Thomas, who's not playing. I mean
Speaker 1: like they got a bunch of low round guys and
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill just trying to patch it together. And then Houston.
Speaker 1: What do I need to say, as if they weren't
Speaker 1: even with their start, As if Houston wasn't bad enough,
Speaker 1: They've got Davis Mills. This ain't that, this is this
Speaker 1: is dak playing at an MVP caliber with beasts everywhere
Speaker 1: and a running game. And so I respect Carolina up
Speaker 1: especially their front. And like I said, if if Carolina
Speaker 1: is gonna win this game, it's gonna be because they
Speaker 1: just muck this whole thing up and just beat the
Speaker 1: offensive line. Yeah. Um, but I'm not sold that this
Speaker 1: secondary is locked down. Like Dante Jackson is fine, uh
Speaker 1: CJ Henderson got there Monday. JC Horn's not playing in
Speaker 1: this game. Jeremy Chen's a good player. But again, like
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not sold that this is some secondary that
Speaker 1: you can't throw on. And I think there will be
Speaker 1: placed there, agreed, I really, I just I think that
Speaker 1: their defensive, you know, I think that their defense is
Speaker 1: gonna be aggressive, but I think there's ways to offset that.
Speaker 1: And I do think that that Dak is playing with
Speaker 1: this with this lineup right now, I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you would trade him for anybody
Speaker 1: right now, I really don't. I don't think you would
Speaker 1: trade for anybody in the league about what they're doing,
Speaker 1: what they've got, right I wish you like my Grench
Speaker 1: heart just grew like three sizes hearing you say that. Well,
Speaker 1: I just and I'm not saying the best. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying he's the best quarterback in the league because you
Speaker 1: can't do that with guys that have won Super Bowls
Speaker 1: and still playing at a high level. I mean, and
Speaker 1: then they're they're there are guys out there. But I
Speaker 1: don't think you would take the combination of Kellen Moore,
Speaker 1: Dak the line Zeke just what they're doing right now.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't. If you say, if you say, give me
Speaker 1: an offense that you would trade, you wouldn't trade the
Speaker 1: Cowboys offense for any offense. Yeah, I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: myhomes is outstanding, but I mean you wouldn't. Would you
Speaker 1: rather have Russell Wilson in here doing what Dak is
Speaker 1: doing with all of this, No, I'd rather the guy.
Speaker 1: It's the chemistry. It's like Dave said, the chemistry of
Speaker 1: everything that's going is that you know he and But
Speaker 1: here's something that that needs to be said, and we
Speaker 1: talked about it a lot. There are no divas on
Speaker 1: this offensive team and it is very tough to do this.
Speaker 1: You can't just say Cooper three catches twenty four yards,
Speaker 1: Hey we won that. Cowboys haven't had receivers here all
Speaker 1: the time, like he Zeek is fine with it. The
Speaker 1: offensive gallup was fine. CD. They just want to win.
Speaker 1: And as much as that sounds like, it's easy, see
Speaker 1: it around the league, you've seen it with this team.
Speaker 1: We saw him the other night at the game. It's great,
Speaker 1: he's great. But Dez wasn't always okay with that situation too.
Speaker 1: So it's it's not it's easy to say, pick your poison,
Speaker 1: but sometimes these other players they stay hear this kind
Speaker 1: of stuff, and I think it's really it's it's really
Speaker 1: it's a credit to everything that they're how unselfish they've been.
Speaker 1: I don't want to myth make too much. I mean,
Speaker 1: we all we love Dak. We talk about it. Everybody
Speaker 1: knows I love Dak. But I think a lot of
Speaker 1: that stems from him. He is he oozes confidence, and
Speaker 1: he is accessible, you know, and he's he's not aloof
Speaker 1: he's you know, he's one of the guys. He's he
Speaker 1: uses confidence in himself, he uses his confidence in all
Speaker 1: of them. He's the first guy to say, like, it
Speaker 1: wasn't there for you there, but I got you. Like
Speaker 1: he keeps everybody involved, and I think he is a
Speaker 1: big part of why everybody's just kind of chill with that, honestly,
Speaker 1: is there just like that, Dak will get me in him,
Speaker 1: Dak will get me my play sea. They asked CD
Speaker 1: about that yesterday. CD was open on the Cedric Wilson
Speaker 1: touchdown last week, and they were like, did you kind
Speaker 1: of did you kind of raz Dac about that? You
Speaker 1: let him know that you were open too, And he's like, Noll,
Speaker 1: he saw it and he made the best play and
Speaker 1: he'll he'll come back to me. It's fine. Cooper was
Speaker 1: wide open on a touchdown that they threw the jar
Speaker 1: when it gainst the Chargers. They still scored on that drive.
Speaker 1: Wide open though, And uh, you know, I mean you
Speaker 1: just like you know you want to score him all that.
Speaker 1: But but yeah, like you said, like, and that's what
Speaker 1: that's what makes this offense so great. It's like whatever
Speaker 1: you do, Like, I don't have to force the ball
Speaker 1: to this guy, I gotta get him. As touches who's
Speaker 1: making fifteen twenty million year a gotta get They don't
Speaker 1: do that. And I think that's a credit to everybody involved.
Speaker 1: You gotta give coaches, you know, credit as well. But
Speaker 1: I think it's Dack more than anything. But I so
Speaker 1: I don't think Dak is better than Patrick Mahomes or
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, but I've been thinking that these last three weeks.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, he is operating at a level with
Speaker 1: the best of him right now, not in terms of
Speaker 1: like how pretty the throws are or the stat lines,
Speaker 1: but just in terms of the confidence and the comfort
Speaker 1: and offense making every every decision is the right one,
Speaker 1: or if they're not the right decision, you get out
Speaker 1: of it, or you bounce back from the players that
Speaker 1: don't go right. And it's just it's it's been so
Speaker 1: much fun to watch. And here's the thing. He's not
Speaker 1: a one hundred percent And I don't mean like health wise,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about he's not at his game just yet
Speaker 1: because he doesn't want to run right running game is
Speaker 1: this he's Maybe it's mental, Maybe he's just being smart.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's like, I don't have to take that risk.
Speaker 1: But once that gets back, and that's another element and
Speaker 1: with all this other stuff, watch out man, that's that
Speaker 1: can even be scarier. But right right now, he just
Speaker 1: doesn't he's you know, he's trying to be smart with it. Now.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if I blame him really
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