WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Toughest Test Yet? 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:07.360 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:19.520 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:23.279 a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:27.560 Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:32.960 It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:39.279 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:44.760 It is Thursday, September thirtieth, twenty twenty one, season seventeen, 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:47.040 episode number thirty one. Welcome to the latest edition of 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:49.839 The Break. Left in the SWBC Mortgage studios at the start, Nick, 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:51.720 we got a little time today, so give me a 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:57.360 thirty one. Oh let's go with Roy Williams, your boy, 0:00:57.360 --> 0:01:00.639 your boy Roy, George Teague maybe, and there's a lot 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:04.440 Brock Marion Byron Jones, Rock Marry. That was when I 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:06.679 first got first got to the calbum. It would just 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:09.199 be Byron for men. I can't Who's who were Who's 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:11.759 wearing thirty one? Right? Treyvon Diggs work for like an 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:14.720 hour training camp and before he moved to Yeah, I 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:19.360 think twenty seven. Yeah, yeah, I don't. I think thirty 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:23.479 one's open right now. No, Kennedy, I'm sorry, sorry, breaking 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:28.760 breaking news sorry, hey he got some playing time last week. 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:33.080 Uh yeah, yeah, I love that response. No, I was 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:35.360 honestly thinking of like in the eighties and like a 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:40.360 thirty one. I don't know, Binny Barnes maybe played back 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:42.520 at the seventies. He was in the seven like a 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:46.760 basketball player. Yeah, he's in Binny Barnes. No, no, boy, 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:50.040 he played football. He was a corner, all right, thirty one? Yeah, 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:53.320 all right, Well thanks for that, Nick Thomas Everett. Let's 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:55.560 jump into, uh to what some of our topics for 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:58.160 the day. Remember, we got Bucky Brooks coming up in 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:00.720 the second segment from men IF Network. He's going to 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:03.960 talk to us about this Carolina defense. Man, I'm a 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:05.600 little worried about this, and we're gonna talk to them 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:07.400 about it and get some some feedback from him on 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:11.280 what we think of this defense. What do you just 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:14.960 just I mean, yeah, you watch, You'll probably watch like 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:17.520 seven plays and you're like, you know of them. Stop. 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:20.080 I'm not saying they're not good, but I mean we know, 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:22.120 we know. I get worried. I just said it yesterday, 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:24.560 like I got PTSD as you just you just I'm 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:26.840 all over the map. It's not even that you get worried, 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:29.320 like you just you ride the wave like you either 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:31.960 think that the Cowboys will never lose again or that 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:34.799 like everything is gonna be bad. Oh by the way, 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:37.079 and by the way, I could be like that an 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:39.840 hour apart. That's what I'm saying. It's not even that 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:42.640 in weeks. I already our apart. I already said this 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:45.119 an hour apart. You were like to work on that story, man, 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:48.000 and then like fifteen minutes later you were like, trouble. 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:49.839 I bet you we're in trouble. I was like, there 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:52.280 if they're not in trouble in the press box, if 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:54.240 there was a there was a camera that showed like 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:57.560 both of us, we would probably annoy so many people 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:01.560 because we don't just say, like, man, that was a 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:05.079 bad play by so and so. We kind of take 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:08.640 it to him. Is he is he? Does he need 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:10.640 to be cut? Like? Is he good? Like you know, 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:13.679 like we just take this hole going to the Pro Bowl? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:15.720 we go all the way in. I think people would 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:18.360 relate to y'all because that's how fans watch the games. Maybe, 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.640 so I think people would be annoyed by me because 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:23.200 I'm just sitting there and like I look over I'm like, yep, 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:25.519 y'all are talking cool. I'm gonna you can watch the game. 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:27.920 Y'all can be quiet if you want to. I know, 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:31.200 probably got some chats going on with your LSU buddies 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:33.520 and stuff like that. Like you're always cranking away on something, 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:35.960 but that might be just tweeting. It's usually Twitter or 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:39.240 pulling up the stats. I but you gotta remember, my 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:42.960 friends aren't Cowboy fans, so I mean they might I'll 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:45.520 get text people that are like, what the hell, Dave 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:47.520 and Mari's on my fantasy team, He's not doing it. 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:49.560 I'm like, shut up, I don't care. Like I'm like, 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:51.480 I can do something. Yeah, I'm at work right now. 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:54.280 I barely care about my fantasy team. You know, they're 0:03:54.280 --> 0:04:00.000 going like Joe Burrows, Joe Burrows when Yeah, when Cincinnati 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:02.480 or Ls who are playing, it's a different story for sure. 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:07.200 You know. Actually tonight, I'm sorry I saw that too, 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:09.880 and I was and beals, I'm really excited about football 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:11.360 right now, just because you know it's that time of 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:13.600 the year. But I'm like, I'm having a hard time 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:16.280 getting up for this one. I would speak. This happened 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:19.120 right before Mike McCarthy's press conference. Somebody was like, yeah, 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:21.240 maybe I'll do that tonight. It's not like anybody wants 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:23.440 to watch Jacks Bengals. And I was like, speak for yourself, 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:27.120 Joey b and Jamar I'm in. I'm there. They're tweeting 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:30.560 the game. They're white uniforms, might be the best in 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:33.640 the league. Bengal, Oh, they're pretty They're pretty nice, dude, 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:37.840 they are awesome. I'm not talking about the Jags, no, 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:41.279 I mean, and they're fine, but now I don't know 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:45.120 the Bengals. They got it. The arrow's definitely going up 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:46.880 right now. I mean for them. I know we don't 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:48.680 play them and we're not supposed to be talking about them, 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:50.360 but well, you know, one of the interesting things, I'll 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:52.520 tie it back to the Cowboys. I just read this 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:56.000 morning Cheeta Woozya, who was signed by them in the offseason, 0:04:56.080 --> 0:05:00.839 cornerback now starting for them. He has the lowest completion 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:03.920 percentage against him when he's been targeted in the entire 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:07.360 NFL through three different and it made me wonder like, 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:09.599 and I don't remember. You guys know way more and 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:11.600 keep up with this a lot more than I do. 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:13.760 But what was the deal. What did he gets signed 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:17.240 for in Cincinnati? It was like load of mid twenties, 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:19.440 Like three years, I want to say, three years twenty 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:22.520 two million dollars or like double deal for a cornerback, 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:25.760 starting corner. That is a good price for a starting 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:28.599 caliber corner. Yeah, for sure. But they had no room 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:31.280 for him because they were gonna draft one of these 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:33.760 two guys. Yeah, you know they were gonna draft one. 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:35.200 But but but how would you feel right now if he 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:37.720 was on the up It was three years twenty one 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:40.480 point seven I was close. Yeah, how would you feel 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:42.640 right now if he was opposite Diggs? Would you feel 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:45.000 better about that than you do with Anthony Brown? No, 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:48.640 you gotta like Yetta. Remember, like there was no way 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:50.720 any of those two corners weren't going to be there 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:52.840 for the Cowboys in their mind, like they're gonna get 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:55.240 a corner here, they're gonna take one of these things. 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:57.359 They thought they were getting one first round. It's gonna 0:05:57.360 --> 0:05:59.440 be we're gonna have one of those guys with Diggs, 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:01.720 and we're gonna be often run. The way the Cowboys 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:06.760 have played this is perfect. Yeah, Anthony Brown's not amazing. 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:10.839 Jordan Lewis is fine. That's that's okay because they didn't 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:13.520 invest in them to be guys that. This is not 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:15.279 Jalen Smith where you're like, what are we gonna do 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:19.200 with this contract? Ye, Like, the minute Kelvin Joseph steps 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:21.080 up or if he even if he doesn't like, you 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:23.640 can just keep drafting that. And you can either let 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:26.680 Anthony Brown's already this is the second year of his extension, 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:29.520 so he's already only got one year left after this year. 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:32.840 And by the way, the guarantees are done, you can 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:35.000 move on from that whenever you want to. You can 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:37.359 move on from Anthony Brown or Jordan right now. And 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:41.880 the cap hit is negligible by NFL standards, so they're serviceable. 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:44.800 They're good enough for now. They're bridge players. That's Brian 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:47.520 brought us. Where are you at, buddy, You're building a 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:50.040 bridge with this player waiting for these young guys. It's 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:54.720 unfortunate Kelvin. It's unfortunate that Kelvin Joseph isn't ready right now. 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:57.640 But the way they played this is great. And by 0:06:57.680 --> 0:06:59.920 the way, drafting Kelvin Joseph in the second round doesn't 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:02.240 stop them from drafting a cornerback in the first round. 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:04.440 Next year, if that's how it falls. It's so I 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:06.719 thought about that too. But I've got another position that 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:08.640 I'm like, well, I'm not saying they need to draft 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:13.040 a corner in the first round, but offensive line, like center, 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:16.400 Like like I'm and I'm thinking, you know, like if 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:19.480 you're if you're picking thirty seconds, you can, um you 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:22.840 just threw that out now. It just kind of right. Hey, 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:24.880 they've picked thirty second before, and I think it was 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:26.600 the year they got Frederick and they got a center. 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:31.080 But I'm just saying they weren't in the game. But yeah, 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:32.800 they got thirty They'll be in the twenties. I mean, 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:34.920 this is a good football I think. I mean they'll 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:36.920 be They'll be in the twenties. That's where you can 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:41.400 get you can get superior talent and value at a 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:43.800 position like that. So we'll see. Be honest, he's gotta 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:45.840 get you gotta get better. They're gonna ride with him here, 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:47.840 I think, you know, and I don't know if he 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:50.440 played poorly. I know a couple of plays where he didn't. Well, 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:52.480 we'll do in the in the final segment, we actually 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:54.120 going to spend some time on the offensive line because 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:55.760 I really want to talk about a couple of different 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:58.200 guys in that offensive line and the other part to this, 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:00.720 and we'll talk a little bit to Bucky about this. 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:03.080 This may be the best if you go across the line, 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:05.840 this may be the best line that they will face 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:07.720 to this point, at least how they're playing this year, 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:09.480 because I know the Bucks are still the Bucks, and 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:12.080 their defense last year was probably the best in the league, 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:15.080 among the best in the league for sure, But thinking 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:17.320 about how they're playing this year, this may be a 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.000 This is definitely a very talented offensive line, I mean 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:21.880 defense line they'll be facing. So I want to seek 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:24.080 out how those guys are going to relate there. Um. 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:25.680 I did have one question. We were talking about the 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:28.480 cornerbacks and with regards to Treyvon digs. We had a 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:31.320 question from Twitter from Randall Walker. He said, with Treyvon 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:34.520 shadowing receivers, now can he also cover them when he's 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:36.080 lined up in the slot. What have you guys seen 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:37.760 as far as when he's traveling, how much does he 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:39.520 move around? Does he go into the slot or does 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:41.320 he pretty much stay on the outside. That's a really 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:43.760 good question, and I feel like I've seen him think 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:45.600 I've seen him in there too. But you know, all 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:48.079 it all depends on who you're playing and what do 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:50.720 they do, you know. Um, but I know Keenan Allen 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:55.960 is a line up everywhere type of guy. I don't 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:59.240 know if he actually you know what. After the game 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:02.200 we got Treyvon Diggs against the Chargers and I asked 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:04.319 him about that. He said, yeah, he pretty much went 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:07.079 with him every snap except for a couple of times 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:10.360 when we went into zone and some coverages on third down. 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:13.079 I'm not sure if that meant slot or not. I mean, 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:14.559 I think he can't. He can do it. He can 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:17.440 go in there, you know. Again, I say it a 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:20.000 thousand times, but you know, when he moves around, a 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:21.840 lot of people are moving around too, So you got 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:24.520 to give credit to, you know, the whole defense for 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:27.600 adjusting as well. Yeah, I hate to I'm just gonna 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:31.720 keep bitching about game pass. It's awful. My tape study 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:33.679 is not where I want it to be right now. 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:35.800 I will get better as the season goes. I was 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:38.640 gonna say, I can't remember him being in the slot 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:41.120 a ton, but I have all the confidence in the 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:43.240 world that he could if they needed him too, So 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:46.600 that makes sense. Yeah, Keenan Allen does that. I would 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:48.880 play him wherever I felt like he needed to be. 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:51.120 I don't care where it is. Sometimes it's a domino 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:53.760 effect of it too, and I always go back to 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:57.440 you know, I think I think Dez Bryant made Cole 0:09:57.480 --> 0:10:00.959 Beasley's career because des was limited in the slot. He 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:03.800 couldn't play the slot, Beasley couldn't play on the outside. 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:06.720 So Beasley always had a role in the slot because 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:09.120 Dez was always going to be on the outside. I 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:11.959 always have cornerbacks like Jordan Lewis that they don't think 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:14.800 they really want to put on the outside. So therefore, 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:17.480 you know, you want to if you put digs inside, 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:19.400 then who goes to the outside, and that where might 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:21.560 be a mismatch that they don't want to get into. 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:24.560 So that's why I don't think it's not that he couldn't. 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:27.320 I think it's probably because some other inside guys aren't 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:32.280 as good on the outside. Worth there you go. Wow, 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:35.640 that's a lot good. Yeah, it's a good pull by Beam. Yeah, 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:38.160 thank you, sir, get it our producer, Chris Beam, thank 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:40.000 you for that information. But yeah, that that says a 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:43.000 lot about his ability. Eight And that was a website 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:45.800 or be him just charts this. He might chart it 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:50.840 as he's as he shoots slot with watching it with 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:54.720 one eye here. Yeah, so they've probably played a little 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:58.160 bit more somewhere, Like I'm guessing they've probably played like 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:01.400 one hundred and twenty snaps. One was fifty four last week. 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:04.720 So what's I mean, that's a little that's like somewhere 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:07.199 in the teens in terms of nine snaps. One hundred 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.800 short enough. I was gonna stay with like fifty, you know, 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:14.000 one thing. One ninety feels like a lot for three 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:19.440 games one twenty eight in the slot and hold on 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:21.760 one second either. But so it's it's not a huge 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:23.720 percentage it did, I mean twenty eight, but it means 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:25.640 he can. The point is it can, And that's I 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:28.800 think what the question was is can he truly follow 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:30.679 a guy if they wanted him too, for the entire game, 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:32.120 no matter where he goes, And I think he can. 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:35.520 I would not limit him if I like, if that's 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:37.360 what the game plan called for, I'm cool with it. 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:40.480 I just again, if that means Jordan Lewis is lining 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:42.720 up on the outside, that that might be more of 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:46.760 a problem than letting letting Digs just not take the 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:50.559 star receiver when he goes inside. Jordan. We've seen Jordan Lewis, 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:52.400 I mean, wasn't a ton of plays, but we've seen 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:54.280 him stay with guys like Kamar for a little bit. 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:56.600 Jordan Lewis is a good player quick and he's one, 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:59.640 you know, weird play away from We're talking about him 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:02.240 all week. If he that ball popped right now, he 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:05.400 came quick. It was that was that wasn't really a drop. 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:07.800 But if he catches at walks into the end zone, 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:10.959 it's not a drop. And I'm I'm not trying to 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:13.760 trash talk Jordan, but that's what I was talking about. 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:16.520 People are like, oh, yeah, the Digs, the Digs pick 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:20.520 against Tampa, whatever, that's a bobble ball, right, not guaranteed 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:23.120 to make those plays. We haven't seen Dallas cornerbacks make 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:26.000 those plays. I think the bounce on Jordan was tougher 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:28.280 than the bounce to Diggs. Came a lot faster. Yeah, 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:30.760 Diggs's play was a little bit easier to make. But 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:34.240 I'm not taking for granted that a Dallas cornerback can 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:37.319 make that play because we just haven't seen it often. Jordan, 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:40.160 I mean Diggs never played offense. I mean, Jordan, has 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:44.120 Diggs played receiver at Bama? No? You mean, oh yeah, mister, 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:48.720 but the jet sweep extraordinary? Yeah? Yeah, you remember that. 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:51.320 Ye I'm telling you, if they ever needed, if they 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:53.840 ever needed something like that, I think Diggs could play receiver. 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:56.719 I think for sure. I mean, like now, they why 0:12:56.760 --> 0:13:00.280 why they don't stay over there? They don't. They don't 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:02.200 like the best receiver. They don't need it. I don't 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:04.040 think he would be. You know, he's not better than 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:07.920 like too much. I'm not. I'm not. I'm saying, but 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:10.480 like you got enough injuries where you need an extra 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:13.000 Maybe he's got great hands. You could you you can 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:15.040 just see the interception the play that he made. And 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:17.000 let's talk about him real quick. I mean, Dave wrote 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:22.240 the story NFC the NFC Defensive Player of the Month 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:24.840 the month the month Big September will be over by 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:28.320 the time they play. What is there to say? Three picks, 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:32.080 a touchdown, six pass breakups, which is leading the league. 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:36.559 Um Dallas past defense is top ten. I don't think 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:40.440 I realized that. But it's March. Mickey's gonna answer this 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:42.640 one for you. Tell me the last time this has happened. 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:47.240 I mean, whatever you're about to ask, that was the question, Yeah, Mickey, 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:50.000 because he sits with the guy, Everson Walls. Everson Walls 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:51.959 the last No, no, no, I'm saying, the last time 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:55.400 the Cowboys had a defensive player named Defensive Player of 0:13:55.400 --> 0:14:00.400 the Month in the NFL, it's probably d Ware, I'm guessing. Yeah, 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:03.360 my memory is not as great as I think it 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:06.480 used to be, but I'm pretty sure that a player 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:08.679 has never won this in the time that I've covered 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:11.880 the team. Twenty thirteen was your first year, right, which 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:15.440 not a huge stretch of time, but yeah, right to it. 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:17.160 I don't think you're guessing it was back in the 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:18.920 in the weird days. I don't think it's the heyday 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:22.080 of DeMarcus Square of the Month. Yeah, you never know. 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:25.160 I mean, and if you want to talk about cornerbacks, yeah, yeah, 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:27.280 good luck with that. Final think ten who did it? 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:30.360 I'm guessing no. He never was a big interception guy, 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:32.120 and to do that you gotta get some Intersett got. 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:34.160 Roy Williams might have. But but yeah, it's true da 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:37.280 Dave's era. I don't know, I don't know, I don't 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:39.560 I can't think of a guy that did it. He's 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:43.320 been a revelation. Like I knew he was good. I 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:47.120 was reluctant to say he was this good because Obama. No, 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:51.200 not just just mainly because I've been burned before. Yeah, 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:54.800 because Obama. Seriously, though, I wrote this article after it happened. 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:57.640 I mean, first round picks were good, a great at Alabama. 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:01.160 But second pick, second round picks and on it's been 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:04.400 it's been hit and miss. Yeah, you know for them, 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:06.920 So I think they get taken because they were really 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:09.440 good players there, but they get you know, sometimes you 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:11.440 don't know if it's because of all the talent around them. 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:15.040 And I'm very surprised at what he's been able to do. Honestly, 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:18.560 I don't wanna. Yeah I am. I did. There's no 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:20.000 other way to say it. Like I thought he was 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:22.320 a good player. I thought he had a good rookie year. 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:27.360 Now I'm like, damn, is he like a top Yeah? 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:29.840 I mean maybe it's it's too soon to say top ten, 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:32.200 but and I think you have to break it down. 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:34.160 I was talking about this on the radio today, like 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:38.120 you can't compare a second year corner who's a month 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:41.040 into a second year to Jalen Ramsey, who's been doing 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:43.440 this for five years. Like the pecking orders are a 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:47.760 little bit different, but like among the younger players, guys 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:50.120 who are still on their rookie deals, he's yeah, he's 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:52.760 in the conversation. He played sixteen games, yet I don't 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:55.040 think he has didn't he missed like four, He missed 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:57.200 a few last year. I gotta have to losk get up. 0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:59.720 He's probably played like fifteen or so games, and so 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:01.880 think about it. And I know that's hard to say 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:05.080 like a sixteen game because he's had two training camps 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:07.880 and three seasons stuff like that, But sixteen games. I 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:10.040 think he's about to play a sixteenth game. If you 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:12.760 were sitting there to say, hey, he's got six interceptions, 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:16.160 I mean that would be that would be a monster rookie. 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:20.160 Here's the fastest player to it since Marcus Peters. The 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:23.080 last defensive plays of the Good Company for the Cowboys 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:27.239 was the Marcus Lawrence in September twenty seventeen. Damn it's seventeen. 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:31.440 That was Remember he started that year with like seven sacks. Yeah, 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:34.880 he got four sacks against Denver in that blowout, and 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:37.400 he had like he tore it up. I forgot about that, 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:40.720 and then Shawn Lee had it twice September of thirteen 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:44.560 and said October thirteen and I sucked. Then I promise 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.040 you that they played. Shaun Lee played the Eagles in 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:49.640 that month, maybe twice because he was his team. He 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:56.760 also looked up September. September thirteen was when he had um. 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:59.280 He had that pick six against the Chargers that year too, 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:01.760 and that was in September. Didn't he get hurt that game? 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:05.160 I don't know. I just I'll never He picked six 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:07.240 Rivers and they had a big lead at halftime, and 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:09.280 I was like, all right, they're rolling, and then like 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:11.680 they got their asses kicked in the second. I think 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:14.040 he got hurt in that game because d d Where 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:16.600 threw a player onto his foot and broke his toe 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:19.440 and he got hurt. Yeah, d Where just toss some 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.760 guy around. See you, I can tell like we're all 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:25.200 in a great mood and have energy today because we're 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:27.159 just all over the freaking place and I do need 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:29.080 to take a break. We talked about the Bengals before 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:31.520 we talked about any other player. But I brought it 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:33.080 back to the count. 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Yeah, good job, Nick, welcome back. 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:04.560 Second thing you watch the Making the Team absolutely will 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:09.840 will and watching any other Yeah, big brother well, big 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:14.119 brothers over now? Uh go, Tiffany, she won. She didn't win? 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:15.960 I thought she Oh she won? She won House to 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:18.240 Me or she won America's favorite yea for all the 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:21.600 people that DVD watching it killed Like, I'm not gonna 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:24.200 watch Bengals Jags. I'm gonna watch this tonight, watching what 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:27.280 Happened last night? And they've just watched The Survivor. I 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:29.679 haven't watched The Survivor. I watched the second episode last night. 0:20:29.720 --> 0:20:32.959 It's funny. I heard you guys talking over there, Tommy Man, 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:35.879 and it's like the funny thing was like right now, 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:38.280 Danny's not even like on screen a whole lot because 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:39.639 they're just like, oh, you guys won again. You just 0:20:39.680 --> 0:20:41.680 go Yeah, back, don't got the screen worried about the 0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:43.880 teams that are just like losing people, hemorrhaging p these 0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:47.159 other teams and like PhD students and they're just like 0:20:47.760 --> 0:20:52.640 Danny McCrae, professional football players just over here carrying these comps. Yeah, 0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:55.080 it's fun though, I mean it is I've never watched 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:57.440 Survivor before, but this season I'm definitely in. I'm having 0:20:57.480 --> 0:20:59.560 a good time watching it. So yeah, all right. He 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:03.880 did this morning that the editing process kind of helped 0:21:03.920 --> 0:21:06.760 him out a little bit. He said, Yeah, he said, 0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:09.280 if they would have showed everything that happened and that challenge, 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:11.000 it would have been embarrassing because like they ended out, 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:13.560 they did me right, Oh, I could tell. I could 0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:16.040 tell he was kind of tired, and that challenge looked 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:18.560 like it was kind of Yeah, especially five days of 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:21.120 not eating and then you go do that challenge. Yeah, 0:21:21.160 --> 0:21:23.840 that sounds like that would be really really hard. All Right. 0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:27.000 We're joined right now by Bucky Brooks of NFL Network. Bucky, 0:21:27.080 --> 0:21:30.000 welcome to the show. Let's talk about this Carolina defense. 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:33.639 And I'll start first with Carolina's a lot the fewest 0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:37.320 yards and second fewest points this season. This is more 0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:40.000 of a reflection of who they've played. They've played the 0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:42.919 Jets in New Orleans and Houston, or is this defense 0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:48.120 really that good? Defense? Is really good? They're really good 0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:51.920 because they're fast, they're athletic, they can get after you. 0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:54.119 And I think when you talk to Matt Rule, and 0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:55.960 I had a chance to talk to him while he 0:21:56.040 --> 0:21:58.520 was at bailing, he talked about rebuilding programs. He's on 0:21:58.640 --> 0:21:59.720 the number one thing that you have to do on 0:21:59.840 --> 0:22:01.840 D fenses. You gotta put speed on the field. And 0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:04.600 I don't care where they come from. You gotta be 0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:07.480 able to put a fast and explosive team on the field. 0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:09.920 And when I look at the Carolina Panthers, they have 0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:13.399 certainly followed suit when it comes to their premise. They 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:16.280 have dbs playing at linebacker. They have guys who should 0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:18.720 be linebackers putting their hand in the dirt like Brian Burns, 0:22:18.960 --> 0:22:22.119 And because they're so fast and athletic, they overwhelm you 0:22:22.200 --> 0:22:26.160 with their collective explosiveness. And you have a real snow 0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:28.320 who is a little creative and out of the box, 0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:29.639 and it puts a lot of pressure on you as 0:22:29.640 --> 0:22:32.720 an offense to figure it out. So that being said, obviously. 0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:34.680 You know, it sounds like they have a track team 0:22:34.840 --> 0:22:38.120 going on defense. That means we'll probably see the Cowboys 0:22:38.200 --> 0:22:40.199 trying to attack them by running the ball at them. 0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:42.640 I mean, because they can't be that powerful if they're 0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:46.440 going to be that fast, right, Yeah, the parliament is 0:22:46.480 --> 0:22:48.040 You've got big Dick brown sitting up in the middle 0:22:48.040 --> 0:22:50.720 of their defense, and Derek Browning can be a handful, 0:22:51.040 --> 0:22:53.320 and you know, like he hasn't put up like these 0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:56.280 crazy numbers, but he does enough to let the other 0:22:56.400 --> 0:22:59.280 guys eat. Shack Thompson is having a good year because 0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:02.760 run is up in the middle of commanding double teams 0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:05.160 and allowing those guys to run in chase. When Jimmy 0:23:05.240 --> 0:23:08.560 Box Jimmy Chen decides to get into the box, then 0:23:08.640 --> 0:23:12.000 it becomes an issue. So the Bara box out of defense. 0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:14.840 They're tough Man Rule has done a great job of 0:23:14.920 --> 0:23:16.359 making sure that they play hard and they played with 0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:19.080 a level of toughness and physicality. So this will be 0:23:19.640 --> 0:23:22.400 kind of a test of wheels, particularly if the Cowboys 0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:25.320 elect to run the football at them. It's gonna be 0:23:25.880 --> 0:23:28.520 a heavyweight fight, an old school fifteen round heavywey fighter. 0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:31.200 The line of scrimmage Bucky. I know enough to know 0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:34.160 that Brian Burns is one of the best young pass 0:23:34.240 --> 0:23:36.840 rushers in the NFL right now, but I don't know 0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:40.280 his game enough to know how versatile he is and 0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:42.920 is the I mean, does he play in one spot? 0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:45.560 Did they move him wherever the matchup is? Obviously I'm 0:23:45.600 --> 0:23:47.959 asking because I mean, are they just gonna put him 0:23:47.960 --> 0:23:50.359 over Terrence Steele and say have fun? Or what are 0:23:50.400 --> 0:23:54.040 we looking at here? Well, what you're looking at this 0:23:54.119 --> 0:23:56.320 guy who is a speed rusher and a speed rusher 0:23:56.440 --> 0:23:58.760 only the best thing that he does is man He 0:23:58.840 --> 0:24:01.080 just gets up to feel the ball. He has great 0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:05.040 snapcount anticipation in first step quickness, and so if you're 0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:08.040 laid out of your stands, he's by you now. To 0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:10.120 be honest, because he's not a big fan of mine. 0:24:10.320 --> 0:24:11.679 Going on the back to when he was coming out 0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:14.520 of college, like he's kind of a one trick pony, right, 0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:16.679 He's gonna either gonna come up the field or he's 0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:18.920 gonna do a spin move. And a lot of his 0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:22.679 sex are kind of sex on air. It's a blown protection. 0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:25.560 The running back forgets to pick him up and he 0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:28.560 kind of falls into it. That's it. He does have 0:24:28.600 --> 0:24:30.119 a lot of speeding. He can chase it down from 0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:32.000 the back side. The main thing that you have to 0:24:32.080 --> 0:24:33.959 do with him you got to put a body on him. 0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:35.239 If you put a body on him, then you can 0:24:35.320 --> 0:24:37.920 nullify him. But if you fall asleep at the whee 0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:39.919 hever run passion, he certainly are knocked down. The quarterback 0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:43.560 sounds like this defense is really good. The numbers reflected 0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:45.479 they are number one against the past, there number one 0:24:45.520 --> 0:24:48.159 against the run. If you had to choose one of 0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:50.480 the two and say this is where you would have 0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:54.880 potentially more success than the other, would you pass predominantly 0:24:55.000 --> 0:24:59.399 or would you run predominantly against this defense? I think 0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:01.719 he'd be I think you're balanced. I think as much 0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:04.760 as I can give Matt rule and feel Snow and 0:25:04.840 --> 0:25:07.040 all those guys their flowers, I don't think if you 0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:10.480 the Cowboys offense, that you're blinking at the on the 0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:12.440 other side. I think you do what you do and 0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:14.960 then you adjust accordingly. I think the best thing that 0:25:15.000 --> 0:25:17.440 the Cowboys have done is they've been balanced. And I 0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:21.080 think Kellen Moore said as I saw Dave retweeted this 0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:24.760 when he talked about the man as players not plays. 0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:27.800 He basically kind of boiled down to that we got 0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:30.359 better players. So it doesn't matter what plays I call. 0:25:30.440 --> 0:25:32.080 I just need to get the ball to the best players. 0:25:32.240 --> 0:25:34.199 And I think that is the premise that worked well 0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:39.040 for the Cowboys Zeke, Tony Powler to Marie Cooper, Ceedee Lamb. 0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:42.440 When they get their touches, more likely than not they're 0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:45.760 better than the opponent. And so the Cowboys just need 0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:47.960 to play the game. I will say when they run 0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:50.119 the football and it's a little closer to the fifty 0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:53.600 fifty balance, it helps the defense because you're not defending 0:25:53.680 --> 0:25:57.320 as many plays and so just being mindful of time 0:25:57.440 --> 0:25:59.560 possession and the number of plays that you're running on 0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:02.560 offense that is to the benefit of the defense. But 0:26:03.119 --> 0:26:04.760 I think you line up and you play, you see 0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:08.000 how they're playing because you have favorable matchups on the outside. 0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:10.440 I think you attacked him throwing it. But I think 0:26:10.480 --> 0:26:11.920 at the end of the day, man, when you running 0:26:11.920 --> 0:26:14.200 it with Zeke and Tony Potter like that is a problem. 0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:17.080 I know sometimes when you look at offensive lineman, they 0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:19.720 give up a sack or you know, some penalties and 0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:22.280 you think, well, they're having a bad game. But you know, 0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:24.639 there's fifty sixty other players that they do. All right, 0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:27.879 where's Tyler be Odish in this? In your mind? As 0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:33.480 far as whereas he's how he's playing here, he struggled 0:26:33.480 --> 0:26:36.000 a little bit. Now. The one thing about guys inside 0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:38.440 you can cover them up, you know, in the offensive line. 0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:41.120 The offensive line is as good as your weakest link. 0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:44.680 And he when he's on the field, for whatever reason, 0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:47.520 you know, he just hasn't been able power pusher. And 0:26:47.600 --> 0:26:52.040 that is really odd because when you think about Wisconsin lineman, 0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:54.840 you think about Wisconsin and moving people off the ball 0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:56.680 and the level of success that they've had with guys 0:26:56.720 --> 0:26:58.760 in the National Football League. He has kind of falling 0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:02.159 shorter that standard. That's it. The Cowboys having ability to 0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:04.840 cover him up. They've been able to kind of hide 0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:08.960 him within like the collective unit. But he certainly hasn't 0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:12.000 played well enough to kind of like allow the Cowboys 0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:15.639 to play at peak performance. Hopefully his play improves and 0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:17.920 they're able to kind of make up for the weak 0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:21.320 link that they're kind of protecting. I know you're not 0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:23.600 in Phil Snow's meeting rooms, so I don't want to 0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:25.520 put you on the spot too much. I can't expect 0:27:25.600 --> 0:27:28.720 you to know this, but just as a general thought, 0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:32.920 I'm curious they traded for CJ. Henderson on Monday, first 0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:37.359 round pick out of Jacksonville. He practiced fully yesterday, so 0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:40.760 he's healthy enough to participate in practice. He's had three 0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:43.280 days to look at the playbook. What do you do 0:27:43.480 --> 0:27:45.840 with a guy like that in this scenario. I assume 0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:48.560 he's going to be active for this game. Can you 0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:50.440 trust a guy like that to have it all down 0:27:50.520 --> 0:27:52.399 and play a full game? Or what do you do 0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:56.879 in that scenario If it's you, Oh, I'm playing him 0:27:57.040 --> 0:27:59.119 and I'll put him on the field right away. He 0:27:59.240 --> 0:28:01.840 automatically goes onto the field in Nickel packages. We've got 0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:04.760 to figure out a way to work around them. Look, man, 0:28:04.840 --> 0:28:07.440 it's not real complicated. When you have really talented players, 0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:09.440 you try and make it very simple for them. And 0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:12.240 knowing how they think in Carolina, they're gonna make it 0:28:12.440 --> 0:28:14.320 very easy for him to be able to go play. 0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:17.159 I think they're benefited from the fact that a lot 0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:20.160 of their coaches come from the collegiate game, and when 0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:22.360 you come from the college game, you're used to doing 0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:24.359 these quick turnarounds because you may have a freshman that 0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:26.760 comes off the street. You gotta get them ready to play, 0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:29.320 so you figure ready to make it very very simple 0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:32.560 for the players who has talent can shine. Whether Panthers 0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:35.200 want is they want to put together a collection of 0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:38.719 dynamic athletes on defense that can overrun you with their 0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:41.400 athleticism and speed, and so they will find a way 0:28:41.440 --> 0:28:43.680 to either lot C. J. Henderson up in man coverage, 0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:46.640 play some simple sigmon zones, but they're going to put 0:28:46.680 --> 0:28:48.160 them on the field. I would expect the same player 0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:51.000 prominent role. Carolina leads the league right now in quarterback 0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:54.320 pressures with forty seven. Talk to me about how they're 0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:57.080 doing it is Is it primarily with just the front four? 0:28:57.200 --> 0:28:59.360 Do they blitz? Do they do a lot of stunts? 0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:01.440 Like what are they doing in order to generate the 0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:05.880 pressure that they're generating against their opponents. It's all of 0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:08.000 the above they do at all man they line up. 0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:09.440 If they can beat you with four, they beat you 0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:12.520 with four. Because their speed, Brian Burns and the speed 0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:15.000 off the edges can be problematic. If they need to 0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:17.560 dial a left and bring some pressure. Their bring shack. 0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:19.560 Times they're bring some of the other guys to create 0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:22.280 a their bring corners off the edge. There is nothing 0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:25.760 in the playbook that they won't utilize. And so one 0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:27.560 of the things when we talk about speed, because the 0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:31.160 common denominator is speed, when you have a fast defense, 0:29:31.600 --> 0:29:35.760 you can create disruption, and disruption brings about those negative 0:29:35.800 --> 0:29:39.760 plays and those things. As the Cowboys defense has gotten faster, 0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:41.880 when you put Mike and some of those other guys 0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:45.440 on the field, the turners kind of happened because speed 0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:47.560 creates disruption. And so it's the same thing for the 0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:49.480 Carolina Panthers. They got more speed on the field. They 0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:53.000 can run down play with great effort, make up your 0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:56.480 mistakes with your effort and your athleticism, and that's where 0:29:56.480 --> 0:29:58.080 they're doing. That's what they have in success, all right. 0:29:58.120 --> 0:29:59.920 So tell us who's gonna win what he thinks gonna 0:29:59.920 --> 0:30:01.800 have on Sunday at noon at at and T Stadium. 0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:05.360 So I think this is a statement game for the 0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:08.960 Dallas Cowboys, right because the narrative has changed. Now the 0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:12.800 conversation around town and around the countries. Oh, the Cowboys 0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:15.560 are real, They're legit. This is an opportunity for them 0:30:15.640 --> 0:30:18.720 to be a Super Bowl contendent and all of those things. 0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:21.400 This is a test of the maturity of the Cowboys. 0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:24.600 Have they grown over the past couple of years to 0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:26.800 being a team that, oh, when they're expected to win, 0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:29.760 they can win. I expect them to win. But to me, 0:30:29.920 --> 0:30:32.320 I'm looking to see how do they go about handling 0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:35.000 their business because this is a game that I think 0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:38.320 they should win. Can they go about just chopping win 0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:40.640 and taking care of business right from the jump, or 0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:43.520 do they backslide a little bit because of all the 0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:46.560 noise has been so positive that then they get complacent 0:30:46.640 --> 0:30:49.080 and they kind of lose their focus on what is 0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:51.600 really important. All right, but if we appreciate you joining us, 0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:54.600 we'll be back, thank you again next week and talk 0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:57.120 a little bit more about the Cowboys Week four opponent. 0:30:57.960 --> 0:30:59.880 We'll do that. We're gonna take our final break, come back. 0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:02.040 We'll get some questions for these guys on this Dallas 0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:04.120 offense in this matchup with the Carolina defense. 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Before we end the show, 0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:31.640 I want to talk a little bit more about this 0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:35.000 Cowboys offense relative to the Carolina defense. But I want 0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:36.560 to start I want to zero in a little bit 0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:40.400 here on the Cowboys offensive line. I want to get 0:33:40.680 --> 0:33:43.160 some opinions from you guys on how you think, particularly 0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:46.560 three guys on the offensive live played against Philadelphia, really 0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:48.480 just how how they've played throughout the year. We talked 0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:52.400 a little bit about beadishu, Connor Williams, Terrence Steele. How 0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:54.640 do you think those three guys in particular have played, 0:33:54.720 --> 0:33:57.040 particularly last week and over the course of the season 0:33:57.080 --> 0:34:00.880 as much as they've played. I think Steele, Um, and 0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:04.280 this isn't really I think if you throw expectations out 0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:06.880 the window, I think Steele has played the best of 0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:10.480 those three. Wow. Well, I mean you didn't hear holding 0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:13.120 seventy eight four times? Yeah, I mean Connor Williams had 0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:17.359 a hard time blocking and Beotish costs him fourteen points. Um, yeah, 0:34:17.440 --> 0:34:20.680 and on both goal lines. He just I thought that 0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:24.320 that quarterback sneak yes, Dad got in in my opinion, 0:34:24.840 --> 0:34:27.239 but Beondish went straight to the ground and he had 0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:29.680 to kind of shift over to the right here. He 0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:31.600 didn't get any push at all. And of course we 0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:33.480 know what happened on the other one, so be honest, 0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:35.759 you know. But they are they are getting four hundred 0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:38.040 yards of offense, but they were running it, they were 0:34:38.160 --> 0:34:40.440 moving it. I don't want to fault them all, but 0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:42.880 I think in the past game, I think I think 0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:45.360 they've struggled a little bit there, especially Connor in this 0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:49.680 last game. Yeah, I'm really I'm conflicted about Tyler Beotish. 0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:54.399 It's it's that's a hard thing to decipher because I yeah, 0:34:54.520 --> 0:34:56.120 I think it's fair to call him the weak link 0:34:56.160 --> 0:34:58.600 of this offensive line right now. I also think it's 0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:01.040 fair to point out he's he just started his seventh 0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:04.560 NFL game and somebody somebody called me on that the 0:35:04.600 --> 0:35:06.080 other day. They were like, he played all last year. 0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:08.239 I was like, yeah, he started four times because Joe 0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:10.200 got hurt, and when Joe came back, he left the lineup. 0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:14.400 He started four games. He's barely played by NFL standards. 0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:17.239 He was a fourth round pick. Also, yeah, I think 0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:21.360 there's some there's some Travis Frederick association going on that 0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:24.600 doesn't do Tyler any favors, Like he's not Travis Frederick. 0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:28.920 Travis Fredrick was the best center in football. Um and 0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:32.239 and also he's he's gone against Vitava and indamackin sue, 0:35:32.800 --> 0:35:36.040 Javon Hargrave and Fletcher Cox, which for all, for as 0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:39.520 much as everybody respects Fletcher Cox, Hargrave is playing better. 0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:42.439 He showed it freak o. No, by the way, Derek 0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:46.600 Brown on deck, he's he's gross too. Top ten pick 0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:49.120 last year. Just hard, hard guy to deal with. And 0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:52.480 I get it. It's troubling because you're gonna have those 0:35:52.480 --> 0:35:54.800 matchups throughout the season. I understand that even you know, 0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:57.360 the Giants look like they suck. They have Leonard Williams, 0:35:57.440 --> 0:36:01.719 like it doesn't get easier in the NFL. But I 0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:04.480 still feel like the guy deserves a little bit of slack. 0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:08.160 And again the expectation, like you get so used to 0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:10.960 watching Hall of Fame caliber players play offensive line for 0:36:11.040 --> 0:36:13.799 this team, you got to make do with less than 0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:16.839 that in a lot of cases, and Tyler hasn't been 0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:19.320 so bad that it's thrown the offense off of schedule. 0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:21.680 I mean they're moving the ball and scoring points in 0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:24.560 every game they've played so far, so as you've been great, 0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:28.320 not at all, am I just breaking all the glass 0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:30.919 and pressing all the panic buttons. Not yet. So let's 0:36:30.960 --> 0:36:33.480 let's take this question to the next level. I mentioned 0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:35.719 when we were talking to Bucky, Carolina leads a league 0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:38.080 in quarterback pressures. If you look at the other opponent 0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:40.840 the other opponents at Dallas has faced all three of 0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:43.800 them in the bottom half of the league and quarterback pressures. 0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:46.480 Are you'd all concerned that going into this game that 0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:48.480 this may be a team that pressures way more than 0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:52.000 what you've seen. And those two guys, I guess because 0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:54.520 you guys feel like stell has been pretty good. Those 0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:57.920 two guys Williams and and be Odist, are you at 0:36:57.960 --> 0:36:59.600 all concerned about what they're going to be facing this 0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:02.000 week against the team that sends a lot of pressure and, 0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:04.040 as Buckie said, sends pressure on a lot of different 0:37:04.080 --> 0:37:07.960 kinds of ways. Not as concerned because of Zekiel Elliott. 0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:09.719 And I don't mean that as a pass blocker. I 0:37:09.800 --> 0:37:13.120 just mean as a runner. I think that that I 0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:16.719 don't know what the Jets have in their running game 0:37:16.880 --> 0:37:21.440 I don't know what Houston has. Saints, you know, they 0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:23.640 have Kamara, but they don't really use him the way 0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:27.080 the Cowboys like to use obviously Zeke, and they're in 0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:29.760 they're running attack. So I think the Cowboys running attack 0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:32.840 is going to kind of set the tone of this 0:37:33.120 --> 0:37:36.080 and maybe keep that, you know, keep the pass rush 0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:39.520 off a little bit, because you know, like I asked Bucky, 0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:41.600 I mean, you can have the fastest guys in the world, 0:37:41.640 --> 0:37:44.200 but I mean they're probably gonna give up some here 0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:46.520 in the running, he said. He said, safeties are playing linebackers. 0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:48.640 Linebackers are either hand or the dirt. Well, you gotta 0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:50.600 better be able to run on them. And I think 0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:53.480 the Cowboys have a running game, unlike the other three 0:37:53.520 --> 0:37:56.000 teams they face so far, to at least offset what 0:37:56.160 --> 0:37:58.759 some of this pass rush will be. I'm worried about it, 0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:01.480 and I'm I'm glad you've phrased it that way, because 0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:05.040 I think we're we're being remiss. We haven't mentioned an 0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:08.120 important name in this matchup yet. He's actually he's the 0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:10.440 guy leading the Panthers in sacks right now, and that's 0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:15.160 Hassan Reddick, former top fifteen pick Arizona had a breakout 0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:19.120 year last year. He's in Carolina because I don't know 0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:20.799 this for sure, but it's a hell of a dot 0:38:20.840 --> 0:38:23.640 to connect. Matt Rule was his coach at Temple. Matt 0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:25.719 Rule knows his strengths and knows how to use him. 0:38:26.000 --> 0:38:28.960 He's a hybrid guy. He can do some linebacker stuff, 0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:31.120 he can play on the edge. He's got four and 0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:33.960 a half sacks already this season. He's a Michael Parsons. 0:38:34.200 --> 0:38:37.399 I mean he's not. He's not. He's like a He's 0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:40.560 a bulky or less bindy Micah Parsons. But he you 0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:42.840 can use him in that Swiss army knife kind of 0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:45.560 way where you can create a lot of havoc with 0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:47.319 a guy like that. You can blitz him, you can 0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:49.000 play him on the edge. He can hold He's big 0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:51.840 enough to hold up against the run. Now you can 0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:55.080 get into conversations where you show blitz and drop him, 0:38:55.120 --> 0:38:58.239 and now Deck's got to deal with that. So there's 0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:01.279 just I just say that to say there's a lot 0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:03.919 of ways that they can throw stuff at this offensive line, 0:39:04.000 --> 0:39:07.879 and with what we've already seen from those three in particular, yeah, 0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:10.880 it should be concerning. And I think they're gonna need 0:39:10.960 --> 0:39:14.200 to call plays to offset that, like they should call 0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:17.319 their offense to offset pressure, because I think it's going 0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:19.319 to be coming out of a lot and because they 0:39:19.440 --> 0:39:21.920 do it in a lot of ways. Why I'm most 0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:24.640 concerned is still and be honest in their inexperience. I 0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:28.560 know Steele got a lot of experience last year, relatively 0:39:28.640 --> 0:39:31.080 speaking for his rookie year, but that all being said, 0:39:31.080 --> 0:39:33.440 he still is just a second year player, and so 0:39:33.640 --> 0:39:37.160 the relative inexperience of those two guys, I wonder how 0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:39.040 much that can be taken advantage of by a defense 0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:41.239 that does a lot of different things and has a 0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:43.400 lot of speed, so you don't have time to react 0:39:43.520 --> 0:39:45.960 if you if you're lost, like they're gonna be by you. 0:39:46.080 --> 0:39:48.319 As Bucky was saying a little earlier, that part does 0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:50.719 concern me a little bit. Now here's another thing. I 0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:55.359 want to talk about Dallas's strategy offensively, and we've heard 0:39:55.400 --> 0:39:58.080 this from Kellen Moore a few times. We aggressively take 0:39:58.440 --> 0:40:00.719 what the defense gives us. So what do you do 0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:03.719 when you're facing a team that's equally good against the 0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:07.520 run and against the pass, When you know you typically 0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:09.680 look for where they will have a little bit more 0:40:09.719 --> 0:40:12.000 of a deficiency, and that's where you kind of attack them. 0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:15.920 I'm not sold on this secondary and that's and again 0:40:16.000 --> 0:40:18.759 you know this, it's the NFL. The results are what 0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:22.759 they are. At a certain point, I don't care who 0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:25.919 they've beaten. They still deserve credit for doing these things. 0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:29.400 But you look at the quarterbacks that they've played, and 0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:31.960 even then the receiver corps that they've played. The Jets 0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:34.840 have a rookie quarterback behind a bang UPO line with 0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:37.080 little in the way of skill players. The Saints were 0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:40.560 a mess that week. It's still breaking in an offense. 0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:42.879 Even when they beat the crap out of Green Bay 0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:44.520 Week one, they only threw for like one hundred and 0:40:44.560 --> 0:40:47.279 twenty yards. They don't have a Yeah, they don't have 0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:49.960 skill players beyond Michael Thomas, who's not playing. I mean 0:40:50.080 --> 0:40:52.200 like they got a bunch of low round guys and 0:40:52.360 --> 0:40:56.760 Taysom Hill just trying to patch it together. And then Houston. 0:40:57.239 --> 0:40:59.359 What do I need to say, as if they weren't 0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:01.640 even with their start, As if Houston wasn't bad enough, 0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:05.480 They've got Davis Mills. This ain't that, this is this 0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:10.480 is dak playing at an MVP caliber with beasts everywhere 0:41:10.640 --> 0:41:14.680 and a running game. And so I respect Carolina up 0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:17.640 especially their front. And like I said, if if Carolina 0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:20.080 is gonna win this game, it's gonna be because they 0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:23.480 just muck this whole thing up and just beat the 0:41:23.640 --> 0:41:27.080 offensive line. Yeah. Um, but I'm not sold that this 0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:31.000 secondary is locked down. Like Dante Jackson is fine, uh 0:41:31.280 --> 0:41:33.960 CJ Henderson got there Monday. JC Horn's not playing in 0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:36.520 this game. Jeremy Chen's a good player. But again, like 0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:39.320 I'm I'm not sold that this is some secondary that 0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:41.000 you can't throw on. And I think there will be 0:41:41.080 --> 0:41:45.560 placed there, agreed, I really, I just I think that 0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:48.000 their defensive, you know, I think that their defense is 0:41:48.040 --> 0:41:50.480 gonna be aggressive, but I think there's ways to offset that. 0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:52.719 And I do think that that Dak is playing with 0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:55.439 this with this lineup right now, I don't. I don't. 0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:58.200 I don't know if you would trade him for anybody 0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:00.239 right now, I really don't. I don't think you would 0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:03.240 trade for anybody in the league about what they're doing, 0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:06.120 what they've got, right I wish you like my Grench 0:42:06.200 --> 0:42:09.080 heart just grew like three sizes hearing you say that. Well, 0:42:09.120 --> 0:42:11.960 I just and I'm not saying the best. I'm not 0:42:12.000 --> 0:42:14.200 saying he's the best quarterback in the league because you 0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:16.280 can't do that with guys that have won Super Bowls 0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:18.080 and still playing at a high level. I mean, and 0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:20.480 then they're they're there are guys out there. But I 0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:23.319 don't think you would take the combination of Kellen Moore, 0:42:23.800 --> 0:42:27.759 Dak the line Zeke just what they're doing right now. 0:42:28.280 --> 0:42:30.480 You wouldn't. If you say, if you say, give me 0:42:30.520 --> 0:42:32.600 an offense that you would trade, you wouldn't trade the 0:42:32.640 --> 0:42:34.880 Cowboys offense for any offense. Yeah, I mean, I mean, 0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:38.759 myhomes is outstanding, but I mean you wouldn't. Would you 0:42:38.880 --> 0:42:41.279 rather have Russell Wilson in here doing what Dak is 0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:43.319 doing with all of this, No, I'd rather the guy. 0:42:43.600 --> 0:42:45.960 It's the chemistry. It's like Dave said, the chemistry of 0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:49.960 everything that's going is that you know he and But 0:42:50.120 --> 0:42:52.480 here's something that that needs to be said, and we 0:42:52.640 --> 0:42:54.920 talked about it a lot. There are no divas on 0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:58.759 this offensive team and it is very tough to do this. 0:42:59.040 --> 0:43:02.160 You can't just say Cooper three catches twenty four yards, 0:43:02.239 --> 0:43:05.319 Hey we won that. Cowboys haven't had receivers here all 0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:08.400 the time, like he Zeek is fine with it. The 0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:11.200 offensive gallup was fine. CD. They just want to win. 0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:14.480 And as much as that sounds like, it's easy, see 0:43:14.520 --> 0:43:16.239 it around the league, you've seen it with this team. 0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:18.959 We saw him the other night at the game. It's great, 0:43:19.520 --> 0:43:23.680 he's great. But Dez wasn't always okay with that situation too. 0:43:24.120 --> 0:43:27.360 So it's it's not it's easy to say, pick your poison, 0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:30.799 but sometimes these other players they stay hear this kind 0:43:30.800 --> 0:43:32.839 of stuff, and I think it's really it's it's really 0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:36.120 it's a credit to everything that they're how unselfish they've been. 0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:38.560 I don't want to myth make too much. I mean, 0:43:38.600 --> 0:43:40.720 we all we love Dak. We talk about it. Everybody 0:43:40.760 --> 0:43:42.480 knows I love Dak. But I think a lot of 0:43:42.520 --> 0:43:47.960 that stems from him. He is he oozes confidence, and 0:43:48.200 --> 0:43:52.320 he is accessible, you know, and he's he's not aloof 0:43:52.480 --> 0:43:55.120 he's you know, he's one of the guys. He's he 0:43:55.320 --> 0:43:57.879 uses confidence in himself, he uses his confidence in all 0:43:57.960 --> 0:44:00.480 of them. He's the first guy to say, like, it 0:44:00.640 --> 0:44:02.360 wasn't there for you there, but I got you. Like 0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:06.600 he keeps everybody involved, and I think he is a 0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:09.920 big part of why everybody's just kind of chill with that, honestly, 0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:12.640 is there just like that, Dak will get me in him, 0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:14.799 Dak will get me my play sea. They asked CD 0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:19.800 about that yesterday. CD was open on the Cedric Wilson 0:44:19.880 --> 0:44:22.920 touchdown last week, and they were like, did you kind 0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:24.920 of did you kind of raz Dac about that? You 0:44:25.000 --> 0:44:27.120 let him know that you were open too, And he's like, Noll, 0:44:27.719 --> 0:44:29.279 he saw it and he made the best play and 0:44:29.400 --> 0:44:31.360 he'll he'll come back to me. It's fine. Cooper was 0:44:31.400 --> 0:44:34.239 wide open on a touchdown that they threw the jar 0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:36.359 when it gainst the Chargers. They still scored on that drive. 0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:39.680 Wide open though, And uh, you know, I mean you 0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:41.880 just like you know you want to score him all that. 0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:44.719 But but yeah, like you said, like, and that's what 0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:47.160 that's what makes this offense so great. It's like whatever 0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:49.319 you do, Like, I don't have to force the ball 0:44:49.360 --> 0:44:51.520 to this guy, I gotta get him. As touches who's 0:44:51.560 --> 0:44:53.919 making fifteen twenty million year a gotta get They don't 0:44:53.960 --> 0:44:57.320 do that. And I think that's a credit to everybody involved. 0:44:57.480 --> 0:44:59.520 You gotta give coaches, you know, credit as well. But 0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:01.440 I think it's Dack more than anything. But I so 0:45:02.320 --> 0:45:04.400 I don't think Dak is better than Patrick Mahomes or 0:45:04.400 --> 0:45:07.000 Aaron Rodgers, but I've been thinking that these last three weeks. 0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:11.040 I'm just like, he is operating at a level with 0:45:11.120 --> 0:45:12.840 the best of him right now, not in terms of 0:45:12.920 --> 0:45:15.560 like how pretty the throws are or the stat lines, 0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:18.840 but just in terms of the confidence and the comfort 0:45:19.680 --> 0:45:23.080 and offense making every every decision is the right one, 0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:25.000 or if they're not the right decision, you get out 0:45:25.040 --> 0:45:26.800 of it, or you bounce back from the players that 0:45:26.840 --> 0:45:29.920 don't go right. And it's just it's it's been so 0:45:30.080 --> 0:45:32.040 much fun to watch. And here's the thing. He's not 0:45:32.160 --> 0:45:34.200 a one hundred percent And I don't mean like health wise, 0:45:34.280 --> 0:45:37.080 I'm talking about he's not at his game just yet 0:45:37.480 --> 0:45:40.360 because he doesn't want to run right running game is 0:45:40.800 --> 0:45:43.799 this he's Maybe it's mental, Maybe he's just being smart. 0:45:43.880 --> 0:45:45.759 Maybe he's like, I don't have to take that risk. 0:45:46.040 --> 0:45:49.279 But once that gets back, and that's another element and 0:45:49.360 --> 0:45:51.759 with all this other stuff, watch out man, that's that 0:45:52.000 --> 0:45:54.200 can even be scarier. But right right now, he just 0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:56.920 doesn't he's you know, he's trying to be smart with it. Now. 0:45:56.960 --> 0:45:58.719 I don't I don't know if I blame him really 0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:00.800 all right. We appreciate you guy, jona Us. 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