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Speaker 1: get into some football. Forty nine is believe practice field
Speaker 1: is giving them an unfair advantage. The forty nine ers
Speaker 1: are trying to figure out where they're practice this week
Speaker 1: after finding the surface at UNLV far softer than they expected.
Speaker 1: The university has a pair of artificial surface fields that
Speaker 1: last week were overlaid with natural grass, but because there's
Speaker 1: no surface place between the artificial turfing, the new side
Speaker 1: the fields had a sponge like field, the Athletic Road.
Speaker 1: The forty nine ers were so unhappy that they initially
Speaker 1: considered flying flying back from Vegas following Monday night's media
Speaker 1: event and practicing the Santa Clara before the game, but
Speaker 1: have since backed off that plan. Tonight, Roger Goodell, Commissioner.
Speaker 1: Goodell maintains that the NFL has deemed the field playable
Speaker 1: despite the forty nine ers concern. First of all, guess what,
Speaker 1: NFL officiers, you're not playing y'all, don't put no claques on.
Speaker 2: So just because you said, oh, it's playable, what about
Speaker 2: the players?
Speaker 1: What about the coaches that's gonna be on there and
Speaker 1: are expecting a certain type of surface in order to
Speaker 1: be able to practice on. Now, we don't want to
Speaker 1: use that as an excuse, but I think in a
Speaker 1: situation like this, O Joe, you want to make sure
Speaker 1: both teams are at their best and the last thing
Speaker 1: you want is the one team to feel like we
Speaker 1: have an unfair advantage because the surface that we're practicing
Speaker 1: on is not adequate or it's not appropriate or as
Speaker 1: it could close. And as to the surface that we're
Speaker 1: going to be playing on come Sunday.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so uh.
Speaker 1: Hopefully hopefully everybody gets this thing worked out. And the
Speaker 1: forty nine er says, so you know what, Hey, it
Speaker 1: is what it is. Let's go make the best of it.
Speaker 1: But I just don't like the fact that the commission
Speaker 1: just came out and said they.
Speaker 2: Have deemed it. Well, let me ask you a question.
Speaker 2: Who put on cleatsand went out there and test it? Right?
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, it's obviously it's unfortunate. I think about
Speaker 3: how you and I grew up on. I think about
Speaker 3: the planed surfaces that we had to deal with. I
Speaker 3: think about the plant surfaces that I had to deal with,
Speaker 3: plan Thorp tackle at Charles Haddey Park, planing Thorp tackle
Speaker 3: at Moore Park down in Liberty City, And to think
Speaker 3: about how happy I was to play on those surfaces
Speaker 3: with holes and dibbots and then and all type of
Speaker 3: sprinkler heads coming up. And obviously, I know you expect
Speaker 3: once you make it to the highest level, you want
Speaker 3: everything to be perfect. At some times, any little inconvenience
Speaker 3: or it's an issue, or the playing service is too small,
Speaker 3: or or just like I get it. Obviously, it's a
Speaker 3: super Bowl, so you I don't think it's an unfair advantage,
Speaker 3: not mine. You. No, We've been playing football for nineteen weeks,
Speaker 3: playing the game of football for nineteen weeks. Now we're
Speaker 3: grown men, and at the smallest inconvenient we can't let
Speaker 3: the smallest thing be inconvenienced. We know what to do.
Speaker 3: We know we're going to be playing on Bermuda grass
Speaker 3: that is very fast when it comes to game time,
Speaker 3: and a little inconvenience of the service not being what
Speaker 3: you're used to it being. Shouldn't be that much of
Speaker 3: being convenienced. You want to think about flying back home,
Speaker 3: you know, as opposed to going out there and practicing, Like,
Speaker 3: come on, now, it's just me and everybody else might
Speaker 3: be different everybody. That's just me and my thought process
Speaker 3: process when it comes to it, based on where I
Speaker 3: came from and what I grew up. Having to do.
Speaker 3: Something like the field being a little different than what
Speaker 3: I'm used to wouldn't inconvenience me when I know the
Speaker 3: work I got to get in as far as coming
Speaker 3: preparing for a game.
Speaker 2: Let's let's just say for.
Speaker 1: You with the Bengals and all of a sudden, I
Speaker 1: understand that you grew up playing on those fields, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden the Bengals had to go play
Speaker 1: on that field. You okay with that? You dodged and
Speaker 1: sprinkler head did it?
Speaker 2: Bottles?
Speaker 3: Listen, I see where you're going. But that's that's very dramatic.
Speaker 1: And you said, what did you just say? How you
Speaker 1: grew up playing on the on the sprinkle head.
Speaker 3: Of concrete all that stuff. But I'm saying even even
Speaker 3: though it's at the highest level. It isn't that much
Speaker 3: of inconvenience because the feel is a little soft, like
Speaker 3: it's just come on now, everything perfect.
Speaker 1: Let me ask your question, why did you celebrate? Because
Speaker 1: in your mind it gave you advantage you needed to
Speaker 1: be ocho. You wore your uniform a certain weight, and
Speaker 1: when the NFL told you to change your uniform, what
Speaker 1: did you say, Ojo?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Why you say no, o Joe? It ain't a little
Speaker 1: mon of inconvenience. All it did ask you to touch
Speaker 1: your jersey. All they did was ask you to put
Speaker 1: the towel on one side and not the other. What
Speaker 1: they asked you to pull yourself. So why was that
Speaker 1: such a problem for you?
Speaker 3: Because you know, when you look good, you play good.
Speaker 3: And I wanted to dress the same way I addressed
Speaker 3: it when I was a little shorty, and I wasn't
Speaker 3: changing that no matter how much money you took for me,
Speaker 3: because that's not what I've acted.
Speaker 1: So another word, the forty nine ers wanted to be
Speaker 1: practicing on the field that's gonna be similar to what
Speaker 1: they played on.
Speaker 2: Is asking a bit too much?
Speaker 3: Hey, I mean I'm small example, on how I feel
Speaker 3: about it, I don't care if they had it. I
Speaker 3: don't care if they had my black ass out there
Speaker 3: on muffling ice. I'm finna go practice and be ready
Speaker 3: for God damn son.
Speaker 1: But I'm just trying to say, but you wasn't willing
Speaker 1: to do that with your uniform, but you expect them
Speaker 1: to be able to do that at the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: This wasn't the Super Bowl. They said, Ocho, we needed
Speaker 1: to correct your uniform. They asked you to do this
Speaker 1: for a regular game or a preseason game, and your
Speaker 1: mind wouldn't allow you to do that because you didn't
Speaker 1: feel if you change anything about your uniform, you couldn't
Speaker 1: be Ocho.
Speaker 3: Right. That's that's exactly how I felt, and I understand
Speaker 3: going with it, But I think that's that's apples and oranges.
Speaker 3: It's kind of different basket.
Speaker 1: And you see the fruit basket. They put apples in
Speaker 1: on you in there in parents to sometimes and.
Speaker 2: Some greats and some plums.
Speaker 3: But I understand, I understand. You know their issue. Obviously,
Speaker 3: this is the biggest game and you want you want
Speaker 3: everything to be as perfect as possible in your in
Speaker 3: your preparation for a game of this magnitude. I'm just
Speaker 3: saying for me, I ain't really give them a fuck
Speaker 3: by no goddamn surface boy. Man, I'm like, oh man,
Speaker 3: let's get to practice on. Man, let's go, let's.
Speaker 2: Go to work. Now I have played on.
Speaker 3: We got to make any excuses because if they lose, Now,
Speaker 3: what's the.
Speaker 2: First no, no.
Speaker 3: No, no, no no.
Speaker 1: Because because once you start playing on you you get
Speaker 1: acclimated to it.
Speaker 2: It's less than ideal.
Speaker 1: Normally what we did on Joe, if we had a
Speaker 1: great I mean, uh, like we're gonna play on turf.
Speaker 1: We might practice Friday on the turf, but we were
Speaker 1: saving our legs on Wednesdays and Thursdays and then Friday.
Speaker 1: We were practiced on turf to get our bodies, you
Speaker 1: to it, because you don't run rolfs the same way
Speaker 1: on turf turf as you do grass.
Speaker 2: So that was the way. That was the way Dan
Speaker 2: did it, That's the way Mike did it. Did it.
Speaker 2: What he got there is that.
Speaker 1: We would get some, get some, get some turf, because
Speaker 1: that turf different.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Now they don't have the turf like we used to
Speaker 1: have back we had that concrete had we had carved
Speaker 1: over concrete. That was a different type of turf, and
Speaker 1: when you left there, you had strawberry, you had rug burns,
Speaker 1: your knees hurt, everything hurt because that was a pounding. Well,
Speaker 1: like you said, you played on concrete, that's exactly what
Speaker 1: you played on when you played at the Vet, or
Speaker 1: you played at the Astrodome, or you played at some
Speaker 1: of these stadiums that had turf.
Speaker 2: That was terrible.
Speaker 1: Now, in the preseason one year, I think it was
Speaker 1: two thousand and one that the field was so bad.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was called the Linked In
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia or it was still the Vet Stadium, but
Speaker 1: the stadium was deemed the NFL deemed unplayable.
Speaker 2: That's how bad it was. Yeah, it was. It was awful.
Speaker 2: It was awful. Somebody was gonna get hurt. They're about
Speaker 2: to go get hurt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's long before they changed it though.
Speaker 1: Well, we didn't play, we didn't play, we didn't play
Speaker 1: that game. I think they worked some things out because
Speaker 1: it was I mean, you would go one place and
Speaker 1: then there's a divot about that deep, but the carpet
Speaker 1: is there, so you I mean you somebody was gonna
Speaker 1: get hurt.
Speaker 2: Somebody's gonna get hurt.
Speaker 1: Now I know you don't probably remember this, but Wendell Davis,
Speaker 1: he jumped up and caught the past and he tore
Speaker 1: both of his uh I think it's from Chicago. He
Speaker 1: ended up tearing both of his a cls. Whoa No,
Speaker 1: he ripped both of his proteller's not his acls and
Speaker 1: and tore both of us patell attendance at the vent.
Speaker 3: Well, that's that's crazy. I ain't never heard of that boy.
Speaker 1: And as to say his career was over, m so
Speaker 1: I agree. I understand in situations like that sometimes you
Speaker 1: can you can mentally create a ghost that's really not there. Uh,
Speaker 1: I understand what you're used to. And if I was reading,
Speaker 1: if I was reading correctly, Ojo, the grass was grown in.
Speaker 1: They had robotics, and they've been this This grass here
Speaker 1: has been monitored and and it's supposed to be special,
Speaker 1: and it's being flown in especially for the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: H Now, it's.
Speaker 1: Gonna be interesting. I don't think they're gonna have I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think Allegiance has a retractable roof.
Speaker 1: It's not like so far Or or Arizona. You remember
Speaker 1: Arizona has a retractable also so it was a little
Speaker 1: slick because you remember guys.
Speaker 2: Were slipping early uh early last year in the game.
Speaker 1: Uh and and huh it's don't it's so it's not retractable, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's not retractable.
Speaker 2: But look, you made it this far.
Speaker 1: And I don't believe the field is gonna determine who's
Speaker 1: gonna win this ball game.
Speaker 3: No. No, But again, when you when something like this happens,
Speaker 3: somebody makes it not an excuse. Somebody has a gripe
Speaker 3: about something, a team itself. I guarantee you if things
Speaker 3: don't work out come game time, somebody is gonna say, well,
Speaker 3: you know what. We were at a disadvantage because when
Speaker 3: we when it was time to practice, we didn't have
Speaker 3: the field, the adequate surface, playing surface similar to that
Speaker 3: that we would be on Sunday to work with during
Speaker 3: the week. I guarantee you always they will find something always.
Speaker 3: That's why I don't even like the fact that somebody
Speaker 3: e didn't said anything.
Speaker 1: I think that we were very fortunate Ojo because when
Speaker 1: we when we played, we got the Chargers facility which
Speaker 1: was in La Joya, which was amazing. We got the
Speaker 1: Dolphins facility which was in Davy.
Speaker 3: Which was amazing.
Speaker 1: But when we when we went to the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: in Tampa, uh, the Giants got the Bucks facility and
Speaker 1: we got South Florida facility. So you you can understand
Speaker 1: that the difference in between an NFL facility and a
Speaker 1: college facility.
Speaker 3: Especially back then. Now you think about a college facility, if.
Speaker 1: You talk about Alabama, is she good? Or Ohio State
Speaker 1: you have something like that. Okay, fine, but when you
Speaker 1: talking about South Florida, oh joke, they ain't got no
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars analytics, buddy. But right right, So,
Speaker 1: but look, it didn't matter. We could have played it.
Speaker 1: We could have played them joking in a late Yeah
Speaker 1: they wasn't But the Giants, we wasn't gonna beat.
Speaker 2: That wasn't gonna sold that defense.
Speaker 3: You see the attitude you have, though mindset you have, Like,
Speaker 3: that's the mindset that I would I would love for
Speaker 3: all players to have, right. I would love for whoever
Speaker 3: the captains are for the poor nine to say, whoever's
Speaker 3: whatever officials or personnel with the forty nineer that complain
Speaker 3: about the field. I would love Fred Wonder's stand up
Speaker 3: man man, man, fuck that man. We got work to do. Man,
Speaker 3: Let's get out and get this work done. You cared
Speaker 3: about no goddamn field. You know what we've been through
Speaker 3: to even get to this point. Forget just the NFL,
Speaker 3: just in general, the playing conditions, the obstacles that we
Speaker 3: had to overcome to get here. You think we crying
Speaker 3: by some goddamn field man, lord of whistle, man, let's work.
Speaker 3: I'm that's just again my mentality in my mindset.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just hated what it was raining. Show.
Speaker 1: I would show hoping that that coach you sometime would
Speaker 1: call practice off when it started rating, but that never happened.
Speaker 2: Never, never, Or when it was snowing or where.
Speaker 1: It was cold, I'd be like, damn, it's cold out here.
Speaker 1: But I will say this when it got really really
Speaker 1: cold in Baltimore, O Joe, Brian Billy had heat the
Speaker 1: sea side there bus so while the off Yeah, so
Speaker 1: why the defense on it if it's number one defense
Speaker 1: and it's going against the scout team offense to start,
Speaker 1: no on.
Speaker 2: The heat hot seats.
Speaker 1: Just like you was at a game, bike Sharey was
Speaker 1: playing that boy, jan Andree was playing that bull guy. Man,
Speaker 1: you had to I'll talk about this card now you
Speaker 1: know it get cold and never get real cold.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, snow.
Speaker 1: And guess what offensive lineman All of them always went
Speaker 1: out in shorts no matter how cold it was.
Speaker 3: Hey, did did your lineman do that too? What about
Speaker 3: what those pleas on game that they had a rule?
Speaker 3: No linean was sleeve? Oh no, you couldn't work leave iver.
Speaker 3: I never I never understood that. Now. I didn't wear
Speaker 3: sleeves when it was cold because I need to be
Speaker 3: able to feel the ball up.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 1: I didn't want them holding, huh. Ain't want them jokes
Speaker 1: holding because you know they're gonna hold that something.
Speaker 3: You ain't got no choice, especially when it's cold, and
Speaker 3: if you're playing on the slick surface, you always want
Speaker 3: that advantage of being able to grab right, to be
Speaker 3: able to maintain your leverage.
Speaker 1: Ye, and so like even when I put on when
Speaker 1: I put on basoline, I never put it all the way.
Speaker 1: I just put it on the outside of my arms
Speaker 1: because I was gonna have the ball inside and the
Speaker 1: lad to have that thing slip out. So the vasoleene
Speaker 1: only went on. I never put it on. You always
Speaker 1: had somebody, the equipment guy put it on for you,
Speaker 1: but he never put it never never went above, you know,
Speaker 1: on the sides up underneath right, And I didn't, you know,
Speaker 1: And I didn't really, I just wore cut off and
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 2: I couldn't. I couldn't wear a bunch of clothes.
Speaker 3: No, I feel restricted.
Speaker 2: I did too, I did, You're restrict.
Speaker 3: I hate that. I hate the feeling feeling restricted another.
Speaker 3: It's a crazy thing people laughing at me. I tweeted,
Speaker 3: I'm off topic, just a tad bit to give you
Speaker 3: a little tibbot on how weird I was when it
Speaker 3: came to plan. I was rebocked during my day right,
Speaker 3: I had rebok take all the insulation out of my shoe,
Speaker 3: all the insulation out of my shoe. I didn't want
Speaker 3: any cushion. I didn't want any ankle support. I didn't
Speaker 3: want anything. All I wanted was the.
Speaker 2: Cleat.
Speaker 3: I want the bottom cleat and then put the shell
Speaker 3: around it and some shoelaces. So I wanted my shoe.
Speaker 3: I wanted my cleats to feel like I had a
Speaker 3: track spike on. I need to feel the ground. I
Speaker 3: need to feel the ground. Anytime I wore tape, the
Speaker 3: tape was just more sofa fashion. I hate my feet
Speaker 3: feeling restricted. I need to touch the floor and feel
Speaker 3: it as if I was wearing track spikes. When it
Speaker 3: came to wearing an undershirt, I ain't wear nothing. I
Speaker 3: just put my shoulder pads on, and then I put
Speaker 3: my jersey on.
Speaker 2: I had.
Speaker 1: I had to always have that as had a cut
Speaker 1: had to cut off. And then you know, obviously we
Speaker 1: gutted our pants. We were on the first team to
Speaker 1: where there were no pants. I mean most of my
Speaker 1: yeah they were, they were like spandex. But I needed
Speaker 1: to be free, right and so but Ed McCaffrey did
Speaker 1: exactly what you did.
Speaker 2: He would cut all the inside out of his shoes
Speaker 2: and then you.
Speaker 1: Know, ed any Eddie shoulder pants were smaller than the kickers,
Speaker 1: like his shoulder.
Speaker 3: Was our Yeah it's army. Were yoked up, man. That's
Speaker 3: the one thing I remember Ed McCaffrey having them big
Speaker 3: ass arm with themast shoulder pass like is it Martella's Bennett.
Speaker 3: I used to do that shower pad like he had
Speaker 3: on some little high school.
Speaker 2: Yeah. That's that's how Ed was.
Speaker 1: Because I needed to be the first person that I
Speaker 1: ever saw where no pants in their pants was Ricky Jackson.
Speaker 1: So I want to give Ricky Jacks credit credit because
Speaker 1: we stole it from him. He was the first person
Speaker 1: that I ever saw that had no pants, no five pass,
Speaker 1: no pants, no knee pass, and I look so cool.
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, man, so we started like, hey,
Speaker 1: cause you know you can get Ed McCaffrey to do anything.
Speaker 1: I said, Ed, I think we'd be lighted.
Speaker 2: We did it. He's like, you think, so, you think
Speaker 2: so sharply.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, so, Ed, and I gutted it,
Speaker 1: and then everybody else started gutting their paying and and
Speaker 1: Frank Gord took it to another level here running back
Speaker 1: with no with no thigh knee paying I.
Speaker 3: Was like, and then and then had his pants all
Speaker 3: the way up above his knee at.
Speaker 1: That yes, with no ankles, with no table on his ankles,
Speaker 1: just out there, just out there battling. Yeah, oh man,
Speaker 1: but uh yeah. Uh So, hopefully everything has been resolved.
Speaker 1: I'm sure the forty nine ers have had a conversation
Speaker 1: with the NFL. The NFL has gotten the field up
Speaker 1: to playing conditions. What's adequate for those guys, and so
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Speaker 1: Patrew Mahmes says that he's not even halfway close to
Speaker 1: being compared to Brady. Mahomes told reporters tonight that he
Speaker 1: didn't think he was even close to halfway what Brady
Speaker 1: is accomplished in the NFL.
Speaker 2: The goal is to be the best player you can.
Speaker 1: I've been blessed to have a lot of great players
Speaker 1: around me, and now it's doing whatever I can to
Speaker 1: beat a great forty nine ers team and try to
Speaker 1: get a third rate. You asked me the question like
Speaker 1: fifteen years, and I'll see if I can get close
Speaker 1: to seven seventh seems like a long waves away. Does
Speaker 1: mahone need seven rings to be the goal?
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean when you think about it, I
Speaker 3: think what he's done so far, it's a reason he's
Speaker 3: even in the conversation because of what he's been able
Speaker 3: to do in such a short amount of time. Now,
Speaker 3: if they're able to keep that team together, obviously the
Speaker 3: pieces are going to change that time due to due
Speaker 3: to money and players wanting to leave due to the
Speaker 3: success that they're going to have. But with Andy Reid
Speaker 3: and knowing that the offensive mind that he has and
Speaker 3: the ability to draft, the ability to attract free agents
Speaker 3: because Patrick Mahomes is there, they will always be able
Speaker 3: to continue to have success offensively and defensively. So I
Speaker 3: think there's a chance that this can continue, and I
Speaker 3: think the Kansas City Chiefs are going to have the
Speaker 3: exact same type of run with Patrick Mahomes and Andy
Speaker 3: Andy Reid being together. That Bill Belichick and Tom Brady
Speaker 3: had I think that they're going to have the same
Speaker 3: exact type of run.
Speaker 1: I would really like it even more so if trave
Speaker 1: within year six as opposed to year eleven or twelve, seven, right, right, right,
Speaker 1: because the like because you look at Mahomes in year seven,
Speaker 1: how many more years you think Trav is gonna be
Speaker 1: able to play at the level that he's playing at,
Speaker 1: And so at some point in time he eventually will
Speaker 1: start to slow down now to be able to try
Speaker 1: to replace him. Because think about it, Brady won some
Speaker 1: Super Bowls and this is not a knock on Christian Fourier.
Speaker 1: He had Wiggins, he had a couple of guys that
Speaker 1: wasn't gronk, right, but he did have gronk from you
Speaker 1: know when he started winning the second half twenty fourteen,
Speaker 1: stuff like that, they went in against the Rams, they
Speaker 1: win it against the legion of Boom.
Speaker 2: He goes to Tampa. So but for me personally, I
Speaker 2: don't think he needs seven to be come.
Speaker 3: To goa noxact.
Speaker 1: No, because I think the thing is is that we
Speaker 1: got to look at the total body of work. What
Speaker 1: he would excuse me, what Tom was able to do
Speaker 1: is that Tom got all the records. So let's just say,
Speaker 1: for the sake of argument, Mahomes gets five, but he
Speaker 1: has more passing yards, more passing touchdowns, more regular season MVPs, right,
Speaker 1: because it can be most rings because people say Jordan's
Speaker 1: the goat, and he doesn't have the most rings. He
Speaker 1: doesn't have the most regular season MVPs, he doesn't have
Speaker 1: the most points, he doesn't have the most rebounds, he
Speaker 1: doesn't have the most assists, he doesn't have the most blocks,
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the most steals.
Speaker 2: So it can't be just the quality of but it's
Speaker 2: the total.
Speaker 1: People believe Jordan's to go because you look at Okay
Speaker 1: MVPs in the in the postseason he has six MVPs.
Speaker 1: In the regular season he has five, and his level
Speaker 1: of play well, So if you look at Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 1: there's a chance that he might be five for five.
Speaker 1: Also might he might only win five super Bowl, But
Speaker 1: the likelihood of someone else being the MVP isn't very good. Now,
Speaker 1: it could happen, I Wasama Checko might have one of
Speaker 1: those one of those Rickey Smith type days and he
Speaker 1: goes for two hundred plus yards. But even when Smith
Speaker 1: ran for two hundred yards. Doug Williams was the MVP
Speaker 1: because he had over three hundred and through for four touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Because it is still a passing league now, the likelihood
Speaker 1: of a running back. When was the last time of
Speaker 1: running back when the MVP had then the Super Bowl?
Speaker 2: You got to go back. Oh, TV, maybe was a
Speaker 2: TV in ninety ninety seven.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of another running back that won
Speaker 1: it because when Willie Parker had that day.
Speaker 2: Hines Ward won the MVP. MVP.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm trying to figure out. I think it's
Speaker 1: TV might have been the last running back to win
Speaker 1: the MVP. It's a Super Bowl MVP, not.
Speaker 2: It was TD.
Speaker 1: Think about it's that's twenty five, that's three years ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to have a hell of performance as
Speaker 3: a running back to actually get that to get that award.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he had one hundred fifty seven and three tds
Speaker 1: and he missed the quarter for so, like I said,
Speaker 1: it's the way they in the way they've trained changed
Speaker 1: the rules. Now, O Joe, it's gonna be hard for
Speaker 1: running unless he unless he goes out there and have
Speaker 1: a Derrick Henry a two hundred and fifty yard game.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be hard for a running back.
Speaker 3: Listen you and obviously he doesn't have these not that
Speaker 3: style of back, but if you that type of back,
Speaker 3: if the Jacore that type of back that can hit
Speaker 3: his head off the gold post from anyone to feel
Speaker 3: like a Chris Johnson type.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, Christian McCaffrey then played the old Joe. Christian
Speaker 1: McCaffrey is then play because he can run.
Speaker 2: It and catch it. Oh yeah, oh yeah, he's definitely
Speaker 2: in play. He's definitely in play for Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 1: Now, I believe he has probably the third best odds
Speaker 1: behind My Homes, Purty and and Eve. Next, right, if
Speaker 1: any running back is gonna win it, the best chance
Speaker 1: is it gonna be this year with ce Matt because
Speaker 1: he can do it all. Yeah, he could have one
Speaker 1: hundred yards rushing, he can have a one hundred yards receiver,
Speaker 1: and he's a touchdown machine.
Speaker 2: So if anybody, if.
Speaker 1: Anybody's gonna if any running back is gonna do what
Speaker 1: the last person to do, what TV did for the
Speaker 1: Broncos Super Bowl thirty two, it's gonna be c Man.
Speaker 2: Versatile, so versatile, so versatile.
Speaker 1: Uh Mooney Wards spoke about handling this week before the
Speaker 1: super Bowl. He said, well, the super bowls in Vegas,
Speaker 1: so he might turn up a little bit the first
Speaker 1: day or two uh two out there, but after that
Speaker 1: it's really just focused. Who is he played for? Oh
Speaker 1: don't I don't know him. The whole week is really
Speaker 1: like a movie. You're gonna see celebrities everywhere.
Speaker 2: No, you not. You do understand, And this is what
Speaker 2: we told This is what we told the guys.
Speaker 1: Hold on, you do realize the festivities is for the
Speaker 1: people that's coming right to the super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Game is for you.
Speaker 1: That's the only thing for you, the super Bowl, right,
Speaker 1: he said, the pre game you might see jay Z, Beyonce,
Speaker 1: Kevin Hart, you probably will. But still the game at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, we still got to go
Speaker 1: out there and try to wear this actually the super Bowl.
Speaker 2: You know that. You don't want to f that up
Speaker 2: in the super Bowl. And that's it.
Speaker 1: All the festivity that's going on and everybody gonna be
Speaker 1: having these parties and you, first of all, you know
Speaker 1: what Vegas represents minus the super Bowl. So now you
Speaker 1: bring the super Bowl, the biggest event in North the
Speaker 1: biggest sporting event in North America. So basically you got
Speaker 1: a five six, six seven exit. Yeah, your super Bowl
Speaker 1: in Vegas. You know what the super Bowl is like
Speaker 1: in Miami. You know what the super Bowl is like
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. You know what the super Bowl is
Speaker 1: like in different places. Now add Vegas to the mix.
Speaker 1: So you already known it's own one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, most definitely, yeah, at all. I think what the
Speaker 3: first two days they get to enjoyed themselves, right the
Speaker 3: first Yeah, we.
Speaker 1: Got down there on a I mean we got down
Speaker 1: on a Sunday. We had curfew at one o'clock, so
Speaker 1: we got curfew at one o'clock. And then we got
Speaker 1: that Sunday. So you had curfew at one o'clock Sunday,
Speaker 1: you had I think it like eleven thirty maybe midnight
Speaker 1: on Monday, and then you was on a regular schedule.
Speaker 3: Uh Wednesday, on Wednesday. Yeah, okay, okay, because okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: I think you know, especially for those that have.
Speaker 2: Oh mondy Ward is Travarius Ward. Oh I was like,
Speaker 2: who that? Why should you put his name in anyway?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: I don't nobody come man.
Speaker 1: Call it okay, but when were doing it, you gotta understand,
Speaker 1: as we were speaking to people at home, that's not
Speaker 1: his teammates. And that's what I happen, you know, Like
Speaker 1: I'm saying, we call people by their nickname, because everybody
Speaker 1: on the team got a nickname, won't Joey?
Speaker 3: You know what, I didn't even know who he was
Speaker 3: talking about. I didn't talk about because you didn't say
Speaker 3: you didn't, says Ward?
Speaker 2: Yeah, travarious. So that's what I'm saying, like money War,
Speaker 2: who is money Ward?
Speaker 3: Oh, that's that's his nickname.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what everybody called it. Everybody on the team
Speaker 2: might call him that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I ain't know you called it that. Oh, lo
Speaker 3: have murch listen that ship the way the way you've
Speaker 3: been got damn playing. He can go ahead and enjoy it.
Speaker 2: Be money.
Speaker 1: Balling out of his mind. But yeah, that's that's the thing,
Speaker 1: Oh Joe. I think the thing is you go ahead
Speaker 1: and you get it out of your system. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think. Because they're out, they're out, they're
Speaker 1: off the strip. And so the NFL got these they
Speaker 1: got these resources. That's really really nice. That's conclusive, and
Speaker 1: so hey, I don't think the NFL really want those players,
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers and the Chiefs coming to the
Speaker 1: strips and and and doing anything. I don't care if
Speaker 1: you just playing a little five dollar a hand of
Speaker 1: black jacket anything else. They don't want any cost cross contamination.
Speaker 1: So they're probably advising them. Maybe maybe they got a
Speaker 1: little situation set up at their hotel. You can play
Speaker 1: black jack, you can play roulette, you can play craft,
Speaker 1: you got a couple of slot machine.
Speaker 2: You can do all the stuff that you would normally
Speaker 2: do on the strip and just do it here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I don't y'all. I don't know
Speaker 3: that even even if you have all those amenities for
Speaker 3: them at your hotel. You know, the boys getting out,
Speaker 3: you know them boys getting out, they're getting out until
Speaker 3: it's time, especially the first few days, first, the first
Speaker 3: two days or whatever. Have the schedule. Maybe if you're
Speaker 3: getting there early, I think.
Speaker 2: To me, I think she's got there yesterday. She's got
Speaker 2: there on Sunday.
Speaker 3: Sunday, so I know Monday will have a day. Maybe
Speaker 3: you have Tuesday off.
Speaker 2: Well, when you do nothing, but you got to take
Speaker 2: your pictures.
Speaker 1: That's your media day because see normally, oh shoe Tuesday
Speaker 1: was was the media day. So that's when you put
Speaker 1: your uniform on you got your look, you got your
Speaker 1: NFL your Super Bowl patches pass, and you go out there,
Speaker 1: you talk to the media, and that's when you take
Speaker 1: your Super Bowl picture. But now the media aspect is
Speaker 1: out of the way because they make that a big event, right,
Speaker 1: and so now you just go out there Tuesday. I
Speaker 1: don't know if maybe you have a walk through or
Speaker 1: something and uh you go, you know, you do what
Speaker 1: you needed. I think we had a walk through on Monday.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think we might have had a walk
Speaker 1: through so damn long ago, but aint none but an
Speaker 1: hour or two. Now. Look here, I don't know who
Speaker 1: told you. I don't know who told you what have
Speaker 1: walked through was. But I walked through with no joke, right,
Speaker 1: I walked ain't no. I don't know who turned it
Speaker 1: turned it that, but they needed to call I was
Speaker 1: a run through, y'all. Yeah, y'all be moving.
Speaker 2: This is how we knew.
Speaker 1: We played Green Bay right, and we played Atlanta the
Speaker 1: first two days. Ball didn't hit the dirt, y'all, boy,
Speaker 1: because see what we did.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Look, I'm thinking like West Coast, and I can speak
Speaker 1: West Coast. We put our plate, we put everything in
Speaker 1: the week before. So once we got to the location,
Speaker 1: it's dress rehearsals.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know it. Now.
Speaker 1: You might add a play here there and come up
Speaker 1: with a specialty play. You might add one play for
Speaker 1: third and one to three, or you might have a
Speaker 1: little gadget play.
Speaker 2: You might something. But all the heavy lifting is done
Speaker 2: back home. So when we ate, So when we hit
Speaker 2: that field on Wednesday, to get.
Speaker 3: It, yeah, smooth selling.
Speaker 1: I didn't have to my game have to say nothing, right,
Speaker 1: Brian didn't have to say nothing, because we did the
Speaker 1: same thing. We put the thing in in Baltimore. We
Speaker 1: put we put the game plan in the week before,
Speaker 1: the week before we left, and so when we got there,
Speaker 1: it was just like boom boom boom boom boom boom
Speaker 1: boom boom. Right, and then you watched and you watch
Speaker 1: that defense. I was like, Lord, have mercy, I said, boy.
Speaker 1: I felt so I batik them, I did, Oh, Joe,
Speaker 1: I felt bad. Man.
Speaker 2: If you saw, if you saw the way Radom was
Speaker 2: hunting practice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey they they y'all was thtunding up back then.
Speaker 2: No, we didn't.
Speaker 1: We didn't throw up. We didn't, we didn't thought up. Well, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: but you could sell. You could tell the way it
Speaker 1: was focused. They was on everything. Every guys who where
Speaker 1: they were supposed to be right, I mean it wasn't. No,
Speaker 1: everything was contested without putting somebody on the ground. Where
Speaker 1: they try to run a comeback, Uh starts We called
Speaker 1: him heavy.
Speaker 2: Yeah there there they try to run a seventh round.
Speaker 1: The one thing that Corey Harrison is one of the
Speaker 1: best guys I've ever seen and play in the seventh round.
Speaker 1: He automatically like if he got a whole safety, you
Speaker 1: can nod all you want to to the post. He
Speaker 1: ain't going he running to the seven. Now if you
Speaker 1: if you run across the route, you got it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but height that he ain't bite that that that nodge
Speaker 1: to the pole.
Speaker 3: He up under that seventh Yeah you know you you
Speaker 3: know you know these stars is my quarterback at Beach
Speaker 3: High my freshman year in high school. Yeah, so Samorrow
Speaker 3: Samorriw was the other receiver. And then when he starts
Speaker 3: left and Samorriw was a quarterback and Samorrio Road was
Speaker 3: uh quarterback.
Speaker 2: Y'all y'all they win no state championship, did you?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: We ain't win No state though, y'all want someone on
Speaker 2: that teller? What y'all with all that time?
Speaker 3: We was good though. Matter of fact, you know who
Speaker 3: else was there? I just forgot Terry Cousins. Remember Terry Cousins. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I do, Yeah, Terry Cousins State championship. It was all
Speaker 3: on the same team, man.
Speaker 1: Y'all that when I ask you, I know, y'all going
Speaker 1: on the same team. You told me that at Beach
Speaker 1: High School in Miami, did you win a state championship?
Speaker 3: No, sir, No, sir. We was good though.
Speaker 2: We was good.
Speaker 3: Now we was a fight to see now.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But that's the thing I mean, Oh, Joe, do you
Speaker 1: understand why you're there, because they're gonna chronicle this now.
Speaker 1: M hey, if you go back this Super Bowl fifty eight, Yeah,
Speaker 1: somebody gotta lose this game. Now, they're gonna have three
Speaker 1: people that's gonna talk about it and what it was
Speaker 1: like to go through the season, the ups, the downs,
Speaker 1: the highs, the low and the win.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't know if they chronicled
Speaker 1: the Super well, I don't know if they have a
Speaker 1: talk to the three players on the losing team and
Speaker 1: it was fortunate unfortunate. It was fortunate for us. We
Speaker 1: won as opposed to you kind of leave at the
Speaker 1: same time. And you see all the buses pull up
Speaker 1: on on at the airport and pull up and you
Speaker 1: know the guys gonna get off the play and you
Speaker 1: see them guys holding their head down and we up
Speaker 1: there laughing and joking and talking and carry then talking.
Speaker 3: Loud right, ain't feeling o O Joe.
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I don't never want to feel
Speaker 1: like that. Thank you knock old would man, God bless me.
Speaker 1: I went three times and got all three of them
Speaker 1: because I can imagine I ain't.
Speaker 2: Look, I ain't.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you feel about this, so Joe,
Speaker 1: But I tell people this all the time, Losing hurts
Speaker 1: more than winning. Feel good, and you'll always remember the
Speaker 1: losses more than you went remember the wins.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, listen, I've done. I've done. I've
Speaker 3: been through a lot of losing, you know, during my career,
Speaker 3: obviously being in Cincinnati, uh to master losing. I try
Speaker 3: to make it as fun and entertaining as possible. Even
Speaker 3: though we were losing. We had a great year my
Speaker 3: two thousand and five season. Obviously we went eleven and
Speaker 3: five that year. Uh, And obviously Carson went down with
Speaker 3: that that hit no by the d tackle with the Steelers.
Speaker 3: That that's all on the first play of the game. Yeah, Chemo.
Speaker 3: Other than that, everything was was decent. I go to
Speaker 3: the Patriots. I didn't really contribute the way I would
Speaker 3: have liked to, you know, that year, but we won,
Speaker 3: and we won consistently, and getting to that Super Bowl
Speaker 3: and playing against the Giants and that feeling, you know,
Speaker 3: after losing it was bad. Now it was bad for me.
Speaker 3: For one, I'm not contributing to where I want to
Speaker 3: and then on top of that, we lost the game.
Speaker 3: So it was a double whammy, right, And that was the.
Speaker 2: Second time in as many years that they had just lost.
Speaker 1: They lost to the Giants in two thousand and seven,
Speaker 1: and they turned around and lose to the Giants in
Speaker 1: two thousand and teams.
Speaker 3: Yeahed about the Giants. I don't know what it was
Speaker 3: about them that what they just had.
Speaker 2: Your quarterback without sacrificing their back. Yet then go and
Speaker 2: it comes on the plays, Uh, Tom sees the whole safety.
Speaker 1: He tried to throw at the west back shoulder, West
Speaker 1: doesn't open his heill fully all around. He drops it
Speaker 1: because if he gets that, that's the first down. The
Speaker 1: ball game's over over.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you remember the play.
Speaker 2: I absolutely remember the play.
Speaker 1: And I understand why Tom Brady threw it behind him
Speaker 1: because he's worried about West getting blowed up.
Speaker 2: But our whole safety.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he was sitting right there. He was waiting
Speaker 3: on him.
Speaker 2: He ain't gonna blow his ass up. But see that.
Speaker 1: But see Ojo, that's the thing as I analyze you
Speaker 1: and I, we played the game, and so you understand
Speaker 1: why quarterbacks do certain things. See when John would put
Speaker 1: the ball, Like, if I'm facing John, let's just say
Speaker 1: we call it a shortcross.
Speaker 2: Some people call it a wall rock.
Speaker 1: If John put the ball between the eight and the four,
Speaker 1: he's telling me, trying to get up in your shadow.
Speaker 1: They're coming from both sides. Just turn to get straight
Speaker 1: up the field. If he put it on one side
Speaker 1: of the other, he's telling me go to that side
Speaker 1: because he can see what I can. Right, So he's
Speaker 1: telling me, if he put it here, I'm turning in there.
Speaker 1: If he puts it here, I'm turning there. If he
Speaker 1: puts it in my chest, I'm getting right. I'm getting
Speaker 1: up in my shadow. Now I'm gonna feel some type
Speaker 1: of way if he put it here and I turned
Speaker 1: there and do don't clean my damn clock, all right,
Speaker 1: and he you know, hey, I'm gonna be looking at
Speaker 1: him site like ba gie okay, But I'm.
Speaker 2: Saying you so you understand that.
Speaker 1: So when he look Wes being who he is, he
Speaker 1: wasn't an undrafted player, he wasn't a rookie player. Wes
Speaker 1: welcome was one of the best. And so that's a
Speaker 1: catch that you really expect him to make. But I understood, fool, Well,
Speaker 1: why Tom put it on his back shoulder. That's say,
Speaker 1: gonna clean his clock. And Tom is very conscious of
Speaker 1: not putting his receivers in harm's weight, spoken about that
Speaker 1: about why he would throw certain balls certain ways because
Speaker 1: he didn't want the guy to get knocked out of
Speaker 1: the game. Right, But uh, Wes couldn't come down with
Speaker 1: the ball. They have to punt. And then Eli makes
Speaker 1: two incredible.
Speaker 3: Throws crows that many ham Man and ham.
Speaker 2: On the side sideline.
Speaker 1: Catch against too bad. You can't, you can't, you can't
Speaker 1: do it. You can't do it any better than that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so oh Choe, check this out. The Commander's hired Cliff
Speaker 1: Kingsbury fire Eric be Enemy. I don't think any surprise
Speaker 1: that Eric Benemy was fired. Commanders fire Eric being in
Speaker 1: me after one season with the team, Quinn said, he
Speaker 1: delivered the news to the enemy in person.
Speaker 2: Today.
Speaker 1: We won't work together here, but I wanted him to
Speaker 1: know I really respect the work he's done.
Speaker 2: I wish him nothing but the best.
Speaker 1: They also hired Cliff Kingsbury yesterday, and people are speculating
Speaker 1: that Washington couldn't move up to two since Cliff worked
Speaker 1: with Caleb at UFC and Caleb is from DC.
Speaker 3: It's possible. Yeah, it's possible. I mean, when you want
Speaker 3: somebody bad enough, you will find a way to get
Speaker 3: up there and get him, especially when it comes to
Speaker 3: a quarter back of that Magnet magnitude who has an
Speaker 3: opportunity I think to actually change that franchise around. When
Speaker 3: I think about him going to well, who the hell
Speaker 3: is going number one? Marvin Harrison Jr.
Speaker 1: No, Oh yeah, yeah, I don't unless they know something
Speaker 1: we don't. I think they need to move up to
Speaker 1: one in order to assure they get Caleb Willis or
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to you have to give take a
Speaker 1: king's ransom. Boy, are you gonna have to give up
Speaker 1: a heap of ship for that? Oh, it's gonna take
Speaker 1: at least three ones, because look at look at what
Speaker 1: San Francisco gave up. But San Francisco. San Francisco didn't
Speaker 1: have to go from twelve to three. Right, But you're
Speaker 1: still gonna have to give up three to one. You're
Speaker 1: gonna have to give up a two, a couple of threes. Oh,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to give it up something yet, defic
Speaker 1: But if you but if you believe he's the guy,
Speaker 1: Kansas City people look like, man, they stole pat you
Speaker 1: homes now, even though they gave up three one, two
Speaker 1: or the three?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: And that's just the hiring. And mister a Cliff, I
Speaker 3: always think about it when you look at his resume,
Speaker 3: it's not one that jumps off the charts at you, like,
Speaker 3: you know what, this is someone that we need in
Speaker 3: the building. This is someone that can help us from
Speaker 3: a coaching standpoint, And.
Speaker 2: Really, they always fails up. I ain't never seen nobody
Speaker 2: fall up as much as he did.
Speaker 3: And I think you know, he got the job based
Speaker 3: on relationships obviously, and the people, you know, and when
Speaker 3: it comes to the coaching tree, the coaching umbrella, and
Speaker 3: the coaching family, there will always be someone under that
Speaker 3: umbrella that will be willing to give you a job
Speaker 3: based on who you know. That's what That's what it
Speaker 3: all comes down to. It comes down to who you
Speaker 3: know and.
Speaker 2: What you know.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, That's what I tell people. This is what
Speaker 1: I've learned since I've been on the business side. It's
Speaker 1: not about how much. It's not about your education. It's
Speaker 1: about relationships.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've read somewhere like eighty percent of the jobs
Speaker 1: that get fieled don't get posted.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Hey, oh Joe, you know we're hiring over here. Hey, Ash,
Speaker 2: what what you're looking for a job?
Speaker 1: Hey?
Speaker 2: They hiring over here, right, Hey, I'll put you I'll
Speaker 2: put a word in for you. Yeah. Sure, see how
Speaker 2: that workd Ojoe?
Speaker 1: Every time, it's all about it's all about relationship.
Speaker 2: When they say it's not about what you know, is
Speaker 2: who you know? That is one thousand.
Speaker 3: That's why it's very important. That's why it's very very important,
Speaker 3: very imperative. Even those that are any check that are
Speaker 3: watching is imperative that you don't burn bridges. It's imperative
Speaker 3: that you don't burn bridges because you never know who
Speaker 3: you might meet and be rude to in life that
Speaker 3: laid on down the road. They might They might not
Speaker 3: be the exact person you need, but that might they
Speaker 3: might be the bridge of somebody else that can say,
Speaker 3: yeah you know what I know, so and so good dude.
Speaker 3: So if you think about hiring them, think about hind her.
Speaker 3: That's a route to go.
Speaker 1: Yep, Man, I ain't really never worked with Ocho, but man,
Speaker 1: I hear a number good things about it and laughed.
Speaker 1: I mean, I had a bloody that worked with the man.
Speaker 1: He a really hard work on time. Don't cause any problems.
Speaker 1: Okay they don't, but he do.
Speaker 3: He cursed. He cursed too much, that's bout it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, because if you remember, think about Cliff got
Speaker 1: the job why because he worked with who do you
Speaker 1: work with?
Speaker 2: Caleb?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Uh? He coached Caler and Lola?
Speaker 3: Oh okay, well okay, okay here here, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 3: I thought I thought you talked.
Speaker 2: About didn't he coach? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's I don't know, man, But don't you
Speaker 3: know how to look at the resume, look at the
Speaker 3: difference in resumes. How do you not retain and bring
Speaker 3: back be inge me based on what he's accomplished so
Speaker 3: far in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Well, if you look at Ojo, Ojo, if you look
Speaker 1: at it, if you look at Washington's stats the previous year,
Speaker 1: they were down with the enemy. So it's not like
Speaker 1: you say, well, hey, we were the fourth best offense.
Speaker 1: We scored the seventh most points, We had to disc
Speaker 1: most first downs. I mean, so, so what what what
Speaker 1: are we hiring? It based on?
Speaker 3: Oh say, what do you what are you hiring Cliff
Speaker 3: Cliff based.
Speaker 1: On I get it, Ojoe, But you're asking someone, you're
Speaker 1: asking someone to hire someone.
Speaker 2: And that look, I get it. I took Cliff King
Speaker 2: very had fallen up a lot mm hm.
Speaker 1: And that's why I said every b enemy should have
Speaker 1: stayed his ass in Kansas City.
Speaker 2: He wandered out.
Speaker 3: He wants the opportunity to be a head coach.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to Washington. Rivera was gonna get fired.
Speaker 1: Sam Howell is not gonna win you enough games to
Speaker 1: keep that job. Ojoe, you got to survey the land.
Speaker 1: You gotta up you.
Speaker 2: Hey, read the temperature, Ojo, read the temperature.
Speaker 3: I mean I heard an all season before the season
Speaker 3: started this season right here, they said Sam how was
Speaker 3: the guy. They said Sam Howe was the guy based
Speaker 3: on how you played good season.
Speaker 1: If he's the if he's the answer, what's the question
Speaker 1: you asked the quarterback? Who's gonna be the starting quarterback
Speaker 1: for the Washington football team or the Commanders? If that's
Speaker 1: the question, If that's the answer that you gave. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's a perfect logically that's a perfect logic logical question, right.
Speaker 1: Anything outside of that, Sam and Howland is not the answer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got you, Avery be animated. Should have known that.
Speaker 1: I almost stay my butt right there. And now look
Speaker 1: at it, Ojo. Now you've got Kansas City back in
Speaker 1: the super Bowl again.
Speaker 3: How about this? Knowing Andy Reid, does Andy Reid bring
Speaker 3: Eric being in me back so they can work together again?
Speaker 3: And I probably will probably go for a fourth one
Speaker 3: next year? Yeah, maybe go for a fifth one the.
Speaker 2: Year after that?
Speaker 1: Red one thing about Red and I read Red Red
Speaker 1: you know be good people?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he very You know where you're staying
Speaker 3: with Red? Oh yeah, yeah, you know. I think being
Speaker 3: to me, he will be He'll be there next year.
Speaker 3: He will be there. I don't think any red would
Speaker 3: leave him out like that. I just I just hate
Speaker 3: to see a coach that has had success with two,
Speaker 3: you know, winning two suit Bowls, just just out on
Speaker 3: the street like that with other coaches that aren't proving
Speaker 3: getting jobs.
Speaker 1: Yes, I agree, oyo, I agree, but I have to
Speaker 1: understand now think about it.
Speaker 3: O yo.
Speaker 1: I'm struggling getting interviews, and I don't, like I said,
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened to everybody say he's not
Speaker 1: interviewing well, I mean it's hard, just like, how does
Speaker 1: somebody not interview?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: This is the system I implement. These are some of
Speaker 1: the coaches I'm looking at hired to feel the position.
Speaker 1: This is the defensive coordinator. This is the offensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: This is my glame plan. This is how like the
Speaker 1: practice during the course of the week. These are my
Speaker 1: meeting time. There is a lifting time. I like to
Speaker 1: travel at this time. I like to leave it this
Speaker 1: YadA YadA, y'alla. Right, I'm trying to that that can't
Speaker 1: be that hard, especially after you do it several times.
Speaker 1: You should get better at it each and every time
Speaker 1: because you kind of know what the questions they're gonna ask.
Speaker 2: But I just I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't, I don't get me personally, I'm
Speaker 1: not taking that job. Why am I hold on? O?
Speaker 2: Yo? Check this out?
Speaker 1: Now, he's already on thin ice. I'm on, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: on the shore, right. Why would I go join somebody
Speaker 1: on thin ice? And I'm perfectly fine over here right?
Speaker 1: Because now look at all the coaches they got jobs.
Speaker 1: Look at the black coaches that got jobs. Raheem Morris,
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, uh, Ap got a job. Uh, Dard Mayo
Speaker 1: got a job. Now Drowd Mao and Ap situation was
Speaker 1: a little unique. Ap with the introim played extremely well,
Speaker 1: we knew that seemed to be a fourgone conclusion. It
Speaker 1: seems to me that Coach Bell, that mister Kraft already
Speaker 1: had a secession planned already in place, that when Coach
Speaker 1: Belichick left, Mayo was gonna take over.
Speaker 2: He liked what he stood for, he liked the man
Speaker 2: that he had watched him grow. But I'm not I'm not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wish, I wish the situation with Eric would
Speaker 3: be enemy would be would have been similar to that
Speaker 3: of Antonio Pears with the Las Vegas Raiders, with the
Speaker 3: players vouching for him. Publicly, you know, even mac crosby
Speaker 3: going even to the extent of saying, listen, if we
Speaker 3: don't bring apn or bring him back as our head coach,
Speaker 3: I'm asking for a trade.
Speaker 2: Wow. You know.
Speaker 3: And I think if the enemy was that type of coach,
Speaker 3: and I see him as a players coach, I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: The only rumblings or any thing negative I heard about
Speaker 3: him obviously came from Shady McCoy. Uh, And I guess
Speaker 3: they're exchange. And and the way he coaching was wasn't
Speaker 3: he didn't see fit on on on on how he
Speaker 3: how he did him. And that's the only you know,
Speaker 3: bad thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 1: Remember Tyreek because he says up because uh, Shady didch
Speaker 1: comment and and and Tyreek Reek chined there and say, hey,
Speaker 1: you're still mad because he told you to talk that ball.
Speaker 2: Huh. Because you know Shady McCoy like to.
Speaker 3: Hold the ball in one hand, Yeah he does. He does.
Speaker 2: He gonna make you.
Speaker 1: Talk that ball because the last thing you want to
Speaker 1: do is turn the ball over into the races like that.
Speaker 1: So that's what we don't know. I wasn't there, so
Speaker 1: I could I couldn't speculate. Uh, Shady has this reason
Speaker 1: why he doesn't believe that EB has become a head
Speaker 1: coach yet. I don't know what there are I haven't
Speaker 1: been in any of those meetings. I haven't heard any
Speaker 1: ownership group or anybody that could possibly be in those
Speaker 1: meetings say anything. So I don't want to speculate either
Speaker 1: way if you.
Speaker 2: Ask me, But that's what he says.
Speaker 1: Reports are saying Mike Brable didn't work out in Genescy
Speaker 1: because he was too large of a human. Diana Rassini reported,
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a fit for him. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's sat in front of of any owner who
Speaker 1: thought of his style was going to work for what
Speaker 1: they were looking for. I had a GM at the
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl who mentioned to me Brabel's physical bill that
Speaker 1: he's a very large human being and that can be
Speaker 1: very intimidating the people in the organization that's going to
Speaker 1: be a part of these decisions.
Speaker 2: And that was and that is a factor.
Speaker 3: What what the hell is someone's physical appearance has to
Speaker 3: do it being?
Speaker 2: But he was too big, and you know if they
Speaker 2: he get mad, he might do something bad to it.
Speaker 3: The type of excuses of the people that run these organizations.
Speaker 3: I want to take you serious.
Speaker 2: Do you are you?
Speaker 3: Do you really want to win? And when you hear
Speaker 3: stuff like that, you you think about it? Do you
Speaker 3: really want to win games?
Speaker 2: What part of my note the end or the old
Speaker 2: did you get like?
Speaker 3: Come on, oh, we're intimidated by his size? What are
Speaker 3: we talking about? I never heard a lot about you.
Speaker 3: I don't heard a lot. That's the first time I've
Speaker 3: ever heard so. I never I ain't never heard that
Speaker 3: one either, especially not not in the sport that we play.
Speaker 3: Have you seen some of the linemen that are even
Speaker 3: on your team whatever GM said that, have you seen
Speaker 3: some of the sides of some of the people on
Speaker 3: the old line D line? You talking about the head
Speaker 3: coach now, I've heard is physically imposing.
Speaker 1: Huh yeah, I've heard that maybe he should lose You've
Speaker 1: got coaches should lose a few pounds, or he should,
Speaker 1: you know, groom himself a little better. I've heard things
Speaker 1: like that, but physically imposing. Kenny got coach excuses.
Speaker 3: Excuses. Listen, I thought he only did players like that.
Speaker 2: Well, clearly, I guess, I guess not.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought I thought Brable, I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna get another chance to coach again.
Speaker 3: He'll get an out of shot. I'm sure he's gonna
Speaker 3: get a shot at some point.
Speaker 1: What about Bill, The question is, oh, Joe, coach Belichick
Speaker 1: is in his seventies. The question is that I think
Speaker 1: general managers and owners are having Does his message still
Speaker 1: resonate with these young players when you don't have a
Speaker 1: Tom Brady in the locker room that can control everything
Speaker 1: because guys might want to be mutant and Tom say, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: don't worry about that.
Speaker 2: We got this. We're gonna win the game regardless.
Speaker 1: So unless you have a Tom Brady or you have
Speaker 1: a guy the equivalent equivalent of that, say, Patrick.
Speaker 3: Mahomes, is kind of iffy. Even even with Belichick being
Speaker 3: in his seventies, do you I wonder if he can
Speaker 3: adapt to today's era, adapt to today's younger kids as
Speaker 3: far as the coaching style kind of kind of manipulate
Speaker 3: his coaches out a little bit to fit, you know,
Speaker 3: today's kids, you know, as opposed to you know, I
Speaker 3: think some of the same, some of the stuff he
Speaker 3: did during his day really wouldn't work or resonate with
Speaker 3: young kids in today's today's era. I'm just curious about
Speaker 3: that because it seemed like most of the coaches and
Speaker 3: most of the decision makers are going younger. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: as far as head coaches are.
Speaker 1: Concerned, these young kids are different now, oh Joe, and
Speaker 1: and I think for me, I am glad I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't play in this era because I take it
Speaker 1: I'm too serious about it.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: I don't care know about no cars. I don't care
Speaker 1: about no jewel. I don't care about how many kicks
Speaker 1: you got. I ain't got nothing to do with me.
Speaker 1: Can you help me win?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, that's all I need to know. Are you meeting?
Speaker 1: Are you are you ready to play? Are you practicing hard?
Speaker 1: Are you doing what you need to do to help
Speaker 1: me win games? That's all I cared about, right. I
Speaker 1: didn't come. I didn't come to make friends, and so
Speaker 1: that that's what I thing about you. I'm I'm very
Speaker 1: matter of fact and why I'm here. And I think
Speaker 1: that's why Coach is like me, because there was never
Speaker 1: man man. I wonder I wanted to Shannon is prepared.
Speaker 1: I wonder if he's doing what he's supposed to be doing.
Speaker 1: Coach has never had to worry about that. My college
Speaker 1: coach told me, said if I had, if I had
Speaker 1: fifty Shannon Sharp. Because I told him, he said hey,
Speaker 1: he called me too, he said, two you ready, I said, coach,
Speaker 1: this was my sophomore Yearly like my first game of
Speaker 1: my sophomore year, I said, coach, you ain't never got
Speaker 1: to worry about me getting ready, I said, getting the
Speaker 1: mother fifty guys ready.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna show up for you. Every never had a
Speaker 2: problem Mike.
Speaker 3: Never.
Speaker 2: You know. Hey, Mike would always tell me go back
Speaker 2: and look at about a eighty four. Get him going.
Speaker 2: That was my job. He let me.
Speaker 1: He let me be me as far as practice. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm lose, O Joe, we got the soul trained thing
Speaker 1: coming down. But oh oh you're gonna do. Hey, you
Speaker 1: because here's the thing, because Mike looking at me sideways.
Speaker 1: So if you you mess up a play a walk through,
Speaker 1: now we're gonna have to stay out there longer. And
Speaker 1: so now I'm feel in some type of way because
Speaker 1: I remember when you was bull driving shooting basketball. I
Speaker 1: remember when you was bull driving on your phone. So
Speaker 1: now I gotta talk to you. I gotta have a
Speaker 1: conversation with you because you're messing up the church's money.
Speaker 2: Oh oh, oh joe, this.
Speaker 1: Thing, this thing for real, right, Like you couldn't come
Speaker 1: in club shape shape like we had club shap shape. Okay,
Speaker 1: guys could drag guys, you know, hey, smoke. You know
Speaker 1: we played they play video games. We rolling dice, were
Speaker 1: playing cards. Okay, normally we don't let rookies come in there,
Speaker 1: but you know, with a Clinton port and some of
Speaker 1: the guys don't f up, cut you f up, and
Speaker 1: you come back up down and slam the door in
Speaker 1: your face and put my foot in your ass.
Speaker 2: It's really, oh Joe, it's really that simple.
Speaker 1: Man. Don't oh no, no, no, no, study your playbook,
Speaker 1: hey man, let me come up to the club. Shap
Speaker 1: your hell. Nah, you bust three plays today. You ain't
Speaker 1: going nowhere. You need to be in your playbook. Don't
Speaker 1: worry about club shape.
Speaker 2: Right. I'm not winning oo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a privilege long as long as long as
Speaker 3: you're on point.
Speaker 2: And so you know, we beat Ocho. We used to
Speaker 2: gamble on the plane.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, you know them boy and plays spades on
Speaker 3: the plane.
Speaker 1: They were playing Blue Ray. We playing We playing uh uh,
Speaker 1: they playing Blue Ray. We rolling dice. Okay, you know,
Speaker 1: we got sponsors at the front of the plane. They
Speaker 1: got to go to the bathroom. They see us, They
Speaker 1: mentioned some the mic, Mike's eighty eight eighty four. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't mind you guys gambling, right, but if you're
Speaker 1: gonna gamble, don't have the money out, I said, Mike,
Speaker 1: money out of sight calls a fight. I said, we
Speaker 1: might as well scrap this and wait till we get
Speaker 1: to the hotel room because I've been damn if y'all
Speaker 1: not gonna talk about Okay, I owe you that, No,
Speaker 1: hell nah, I need to see the money on the wood,
Speaker 1: right right, right, right right. Mike said, no more gambling. Hey,
Speaker 1: no gambling. Okay, I shut it down. Hey, we're in
Speaker 1: gambling now, come playoff time. Hey, Mike, you know, hey
Speaker 1: eighty four. Do what y'all do back there? Okay, right, that's.
Speaker 2: What we do. That's what we do.
Speaker 1: But my thing was I was an extension of mic
Speaker 1: because a lot of times, O Joe, we handle situation
Speaker 1: in the locker room before they got the mic. That's
Speaker 1: what leaders do. You don't wait the things get out
Speaker 1: of control, and then you go take it the mic.
Speaker 1: You suppress it before he has to ever hear about it.
Speaker 1: A lot of things that went on in that locker room.
Speaker 1: Mike had no idea idea. Yeah, and that's that's crazy.
Speaker 1: But what are your leaders for? You said you're just
Speaker 1: the leader just because that's just that's just a title.
Speaker 1: You've got to be able to do something if there
Speaker 1: are issues going on between team A. Bro, what's what's
Speaker 1: that about?
Speaker 2: Bro? How you mad you married? How you married? About
Speaker 2: why you're married? About somebody you're married?
Speaker 3: Man, y'all, y'all were back doing like that over there.
Speaker 3: But I know what you talk about it. I see
Speaker 3: where you're going to.
Speaker 2: But I'm made.
Speaker 1: I'm picking up what you're putting down. I didn't play that,
Speaker 1: and I ain't got no. I didn't have no allegiance
Speaker 1: to nobody's wife. But what I had allegiance to with
Speaker 1: that locker room and was to keep the peace. That
Speaker 1: was my allegiance. What you do if look what you did,
Speaker 1: as long as it didn't interfere with the locker room,
Speaker 1: I could care less on yo, I really could. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not my responsibility. Your wife wasn't married to me,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't married to me, so I don't give a damn.
Speaker 1: But I tell you what you're not gonna do. It's
Speaker 1: not gonna interfere what's going on in this locker room.
Speaker 2: So take that. He take that it somewhere else.
Speaker 3: But that sounds like a good story. Now you might
Speaker 3: want to go ahead and share that. Well, that thing sounds.
Speaker 2: Hey hey, But here's the thing, o Yoe.
Speaker 1: I was reading the chat because I like to read
Speaker 1: the chat and say, like, okay, what what can then
Speaker 1: men ojo do differently?
Speaker 2: What could we add?
Speaker 1: And I was reading the story about this lady and
Speaker 1: the lady was saying with Shennon, what I've learned throughout
Speaker 1: my life is that when guys talk like you be talking,
Speaker 1: it's untrue. I've been on I've been on TV for
Speaker 1: the better part of twenty years, with the exception of
Speaker 1: two years. Oho that I do. I was out of
Speaker 1: work after I got the CBS, so those two years.
Speaker 1: But for the better part, so about eighteen years, Joe,
Speaker 1: I've been on TV. Name the one time I've told
Speaker 1: you a story about something that happened in Baltimore, Denver,
Speaker 1: and somebody came back said that didn't happen. Name the
Speaker 1: one time that I've said something about since you and
Speaker 1: I've been doing this, if it wasn't true, that some
Speaker 1: females can get over there and get on, can get
Speaker 1: on a fake account and say, shan a sharp line.
Speaker 1: That didn't happen, not one time. I understand now in
Speaker 1: today's society, a lot of people lie, But what the
Speaker 1: health of I want to lie?
Speaker 2: What the right?
Speaker 1: What it is? Now? I got some stories that, oh Joe,
Speaker 1: they say that the only difference between truth and fiction.
Speaker 2: Is that truth has to make fiction has to make sense.
Speaker 1: I got some stories that, man ain't no way to happen, right,
Speaker 1: absolutely was it did happen, and I was there.
Speaker 2: I was there.
Speaker 1: I might have been an active participant. But that's neither
Speaker 1: here north there. That's that's for the movie, right. But guys,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you things that have happened college, NFL, my
Speaker 1: personal life and and like a lot of times, some
Speaker 1: of these things that's happened with female women in my life.
Speaker 2: O Joe, we're cool. Thirty years were cool? Yeah. Hey.
Speaker 3: The fact that you've been able to accord remain a
Speaker 3: cordial relationship with people that you've dated and been intimate
Speaker 3: with even after the fact, it's very commendable, very very
Speaker 3: very commenable, because most of the time, you know, things
Speaker 3: always end on bad terms and there is no you know,
Speaker 3: being friends. Once you cross a certain threshold, it's a rap.
Speaker 2: It took me a while to get to that. It
Speaker 2: took me a while.
Speaker 1: It took me a while because I was allowing these
Speaker 1: women to hold my feelings hostage. They were gone on
Speaker 1: with their lives, but I was in bondage. M M,
Speaker 1: so I said, I am not going to allow you
Speaker 1: to hold my feelings hostage. I refused to be in bondage,
Speaker 1: so I had to forgive. And yet it took me
Speaker 1: a while because some of them did some things that
Speaker 1: didn't have to do.
Speaker 2: You could have just.
Speaker 1: I tell people all the time, out Joe, I don't
Speaker 1: have bars on my house, so it's not to keep
Speaker 1: you in or out right walk in the door.
Speaker 2: I'll allow you to walk out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, boy, I like that.
Speaker 2: And so for me, it took it took me a while.
Speaker 2: It took me a while.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had situation, but I'm all because I believe,
Speaker 1: oh Choldren, I'm always gonna come out on the winning side.
Speaker 1: And so when they've done things to me, I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: it is what it is. You then you feel that's
Speaker 1: what you needed to do.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna win. I'm gonna win.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: I've had said I've had situations O joe with women
Speaker 1: that I've dated. They ended up getting married when they're
Speaker 1: going through hard times. Who you think they called for?
Speaker 2: Shanon?
Speaker 1: I want to get a door, So I said, no,
Speaker 1: you're not. I said, you better stay with that man.
Speaker 1: I said, you gotta understand how old you think you are?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. You got two kids?
Speaker 3: You this age?
Speaker 1: I said, I tell you what I'm gonna do. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get you a hotel room. You stayed there for
Speaker 1: a week, y'all. Figure this is its shot. You don't
Speaker 1: need to leave him?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we talked, We talked. We talked about it
Speaker 3: last night. Nowig piggings get real, slimy.
Speaker 2: I said, who you think you about to get? I'm
Speaker 2: thinking about to get you and your you damn.
Speaker 3: The fit rehere. Reality will hit when you down in
Speaker 3: the streets and you see what's left over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you said, because you don't have a disagreement, Oh
Speaker 1: he's said something that you didn't like or you don't
Speaker 1: like the way he Oh hell, now, y'all better solve that.
Speaker 1: And as a matter of fact, hey, I already got
Speaker 1: it taken care of. You ain't gotta show nothing. Everything
Speaker 1: that you need. The room and the incidentals are taken
Speaker 1: care of. Right, Stay your ass up there and makes
Speaker 1: a make sure you make the right decision.
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, yeah, you make the wrong one. You're gonna look,
Speaker 3: You're gonna be looking down. You can be looking back
Speaker 3: mad than the mother. Come back ten years later they
Speaker 3: still married.
Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate that.
Speaker 3: But you ought to be a therapist, man, I could
Speaker 3: be oh t.
Speaker 1: The way I look at look, you and I didn't
Speaker 1: work out. I don't think you're a bad person. You
Speaker 1: might have not been right for me. I might have
Speaker 1: not been right for you, but you might be perfect
Speaker 1: for someone else.
Speaker 3: Something that's okay.
Speaker 2: That's okay. Kept at the end of the day, I
Speaker 2: want you to be happy.
Speaker 1: I might not can give you the happiness that you're
Speaker 1: looking for, but that doesn't mean I don't want you
Speaker 1: to have it.
Speaker 2: And if you found it at one point in time,
Speaker 2: stay there. I say it's easy.
Speaker 1: I said, damn, y'all the minute of heart, I thought,
Speaker 1: riches is important sickness in the health and.
Speaker 2: Well damn that. So y'all just talking up there in
Speaker 2: front of the main hunh, y'all just lied.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they be ready to go now and just any
Speaker 3: of the slightest inconvenience things don't go well, or or
Speaker 3: you do something that don't don't sit right with them,
Speaker 3: or they ready to go. They ready to go, matter
Speaker 3: of fact, and they ready to go to somebody else
Speaker 3: that gonna do the exact same.
Speaker 2: Thing it worse. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, you know my grandma said, my
Speaker 3: grandma always told me that you don't have to lie
Speaker 3: to you don't have to lie to a woman because
Speaker 3: she like you enough, she'll lied to herself. Yeah, for sure,
Speaker 3: have to lie to a woman because she like you enough.
Speaker 3: For them red flags look like six flags. Oh she's
Speaker 3: going for that ride, yeah, the color blind. Yeah, when
Speaker 3: it's when it's convenient, yes, based on the opportunity.
Speaker 1: But I but I want I want all the women
Speaker 1: that I've been with and in my time, I want
Speaker 1: them to find happiness. It wasn't for me, you know,
Speaker 1: we didn't work out. But if there's anything I can
Speaker 1: do to help you, and and you're in a situation.
Speaker 2: I got you.
Speaker 1: It didn't work for me all that, Like I said,
Speaker 1: and even though sometimes don't Joe, it didn't end on
Speaker 1: the best no, the best terms.
Speaker 2: We didn't end on the best terms. That's all right.
Speaker 1: I mean I think that that came from my grandmother
Speaker 1: and my sister. Because my sister, like, Shannon, you just
Speaker 1: pray about it. It's gonna be okay. Yeah you still
Speaker 1: She's like, you still my little She always tells me
Speaker 1: this when I every time, every time I'm always gone
Speaker 1: through something a breakup, she always she always reminds me
Speaker 1: who I am. You're still shouting sharp, You're still my
Speaker 1: little brother, and you're gonna be okay. She's a she's
Speaker 1: that calming voice because a lot of time I like, hey,
Speaker 1: I want to I want to bury it as you
Speaker 1: know what say, Shanna, what do you get out of that?
Speaker 1: What do you get out of that?
Speaker 2: Right? I mean? My sister. Look, look, let me tell
Speaker 2: you what my sister did. I was in a relationship.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Can we get the name is Simon, We're gonna get.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you what my sister did. My sister
Speaker 1: really because like if you call my sister, if you automatically.
Speaker 1: I would think my sister would take up for me.
Speaker 1: When my sister did.
Speaker 3: When you're wrong, you're wrong. Now she got a hold
Speaker 3: you accountable.
Speaker 2: My sister say you should leave it?
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Chause he ain't doing right. So why you're gonna stay?
Speaker 1: Why are you wanna stay in a situation which you're unhappy?
Speaker 1: You know he makes you unhappy. You're not happy, but
Speaker 1: you're gonna stay.
Speaker 2: Why leave?
Speaker 3: And if it's if it's meant to be, y'all be together,
Speaker 3: you come back like a boomerang.
Speaker 2: Man, I live it. What the hell you done done?
Speaker 2: What you think? What you think the girl did? Left?
Speaker 2: What left? You?
Speaker 3: Serious? Man? It's that's too nice in the rook and
Speaker 3: then told me somebody left you. Now I don't. I
Speaker 3: don't like that.
Speaker 1: Joe, Oh Joe, It's okay. It's not the end of
Speaker 1: the world. Oh Yoe, damn, oh Joe, CBS, CBS, let
Speaker 1: me go. I went to Undersfeuter got bigger under Let
Speaker 1: me go.
Speaker 2: Now look at it. Look at the subs. I got
Speaker 2: more subs than undisputed you. Look at that.
Speaker 1: Look at the talent they got over there, I got,
Speaker 1: I got, we got a new podcast. And we got
Speaker 1: more subs than everybody that got over there combined. So
Speaker 1: I'm okay, I'm gonna be okay. I even me, I'm
Speaker 1: always gonna better on black.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't get you know, when when something happened, I
Speaker 1: remember I wanted a situation and my agent said, they
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Next contract,
Speaker 1: somebody else will pay for what you lost.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't get upset. Man, It's not the end of
Speaker 1: the world. D strong, I'm strong. Hey, I bought a
Speaker 1: sixty eight. I came from good stock, not woodstock.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: You would have understand where I came from and how
Speaker 2: I came to be.
Speaker 3: Damn. I don't like that they don't like you're a
Speaker 3: good dude, man, because I'm like like that. That that
Speaker 3: that's that's that stung me a little bit.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: That's that's too shoo. It's two times somebody, Oh they
Speaker 3: up and left, and oh that.
Speaker 2: The first that is the first time. That is the
Speaker 2: first time. That's not the second time.
Speaker 1: I was dating. I was dating the female and we
Speaker 1: were living together, and when I came home.
Speaker 2: She was gone.
Speaker 3: Oh hell, he like, that's the type of ship you
Speaker 3: see in movies.
Speaker 2: Man, Well, hell I was. I guess I was living
Speaker 2: a movie.
Speaker 1: Then, hey, oh head, oh Joe, when I tell you
Speaker 1: you're looking listen, when I tell people I could write
Speaker 1: a book, y'all think I'm lying.
Speaker 2: Y'all think I'm lying.
Speaker 3: You came home, You came home like like on some
Speaker 3: gone Girl ship, like the movie Gone Girl.
Speaker 1: She was gone, gone big gie, big old biggie Biggie
Speaker 1: gone bye by Verdi.
Speaker 3: And that's slightly disrespectful because if you, if you love me,
Speaker 3: if we did that was the case.
Speaker 2: I didn't love it anymore.
Speaker 3: Yeah, any anymore? Will you tell me that you if you,
Speaker 3: if you, if you've checked out mentally and you still
Speaker 3: here physically and you're not feeling the situation, where in
Speaker 3: I need you to communicate? Isn't that what women always
Speaker 3: talk about? Women are big on communication? Where is the communication?
Speaker 3: Why wait until you leave on some sucker shit and
Speaker 3: then pack your shit and leave in when I ain't
Speaker 3: here and I face face the wolf, come on nine,
Speaker 3: I mean, oh.
Speaker 1: Yo, everybody can't handle situations like I don't know how
Speaker 1: you have those situations. But I can sit down, I
Speaker 1: can have a conversation. You're not happy, you want to
Speaker 1: move on, I'm not happy.
Speaker 2: I want to move on.
Speaker 1: I can have that kind of conversation, right, right, right.
Speaker 1: Everybody can't have that conversation. Everybody's not built like you
Speaker 1: or that like I can't speak for you, but to
Speaker 1: handle it.
Speaker 2: Let me.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you something, Let me tell you how
Speaker 3: I feel. Me and you're on the same page. I
Speaker 3: was born in seven eight, non I was born in
Speaker 3: seven eight. But one thing about it is I'll give
Speaker 3: my all and do all I can.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: If you choose to lose, I never see it as
Speaker 3: a loss. I see it as one less expense. That's it, right,
Speaker 3: I'm doing everything. So now that's somebody else's responsibility. If
Speaker 3: they want to pick up where I left off and
Speaker 3: do more, so be it be good luck for sure
Speaker 3: being in good luck. But I always I always see
Speaker 3: someone actually leaving me or shit, that's better for me.
Speaker 3: I just think about how much I can say from
Speaker 3: this point on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't get upset, I don't fuss and fight.
Speaker 1: I want things a certain way. I like people that
Speaker 1: after you've been with me for a while, you kind
Speaker 1: of understand my manner hythms, you know what. I okay, Challna,
Speaker 1: don't really want to talk. Let him be right right,
Speaker 1: you don't won't want something like this or shalln't want
Speaker 1: something like that. Let me have this ready for me.
Speaker 1: I want people to like study me and have without
Speaker 1: me having to tell you right, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1: I think the best relationships are you've been with someone
Speaker 1: long enough understand Hey, you.
Speaker 3: Know it's funny. I like that you just said that.
Speaker 3: Like I've been moreal like so long. Now we're starting
Speaker 3: to look like I can start a sentence. I can
Speaker 3: start it. I can started, I can start a sentence,
Speaker 3: and before I even finish what I'm saying, she finished
Speaker 3: the damn sentence. I'm like, but can I? And it
Speaker 3: kind of irked me a little bit, like can I
Speaker 3: get my thoughts out? I know?
Speaker 2: You know, because.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna creat your habit routine, you don't change. My
Speaker 3: routine doesn't change. And the things that I say based
Speaker 3: on the situation, it never changes as well. So I
Speaker 3: start saying something and she had finished it whatever it was.
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know all right, I know,
Speaker 3: you know, just let me get what I want to
Speaker 3: say out. Yeah, I would, though, let me let me
Speaker 3: say it, let me finish. So it basically it's like you.
Speaker 3: It sounds like you irritated because you already know what
Speaker 3: I'm getting ready to say.
Speaker 2: You don't want me to say it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, small, a little small, little discrepancy we be having.
Speaker 3: You know that that that starts the argument.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's going to happen, O Joe. And you know,
Speaker 1: I think the thing for me distance it's hard because
Speaker 1: you know, wanting to talk every day.
Speaker 2: All the time.
Speaker 3: Physical touch is important. I don't see how people do
Speaker 3: long distance. I don't see how people do do long
Speaker 3: You know, when you're younger, I understand when you're younger,
Speaker 3: you really know no better. You know you're in love,
Speaker 3: you know, and that's puppy love, like my grandma used
Speaker 3: to call it. Boy, it ain't nothing but puppul love.
Speaker 3: You ain't gonna know her in three years. I ain't
Speaker 3: believe her, I said, my grandma and my grandma. Boy,
Speaker 3: she's gonna be here forever. Boy, you in eight grade,
Speaker 3: beg you God, damn, I'll never forget she motherfucker left
Speaker 3: me forgot Damn Willis man, Oh look, we love we all?
Speaker 1: Would we all have been through that? She don't have
Speaker 1: played them song, Lenny Williams, Girl, you know I love
Speaker 1: you and send for me Atlantic Star. I'm just a
Speaker 1: telephone call away. I may we all played uh that
Speaker 1: line of Richie song yellow, but.
Speaker 3: You're bringing back I'm almost teared up back that that
Speaker 3: makes me emotional. Why I remember them days? Boy, listen
Speaker 3: to that anyway? You know, you not hurt. You got
Speaker 3: to be to watch TV. So TV went off because.
Speaker 2: TV used to go off.
Speaker 1: See TV that wasn't always twenty four hours a day,
Speaker 1: Like at midnight, the TV would go black. There was
Speaker 1: nothing else on. I know a lot of people out
Speaker 1: there that's watching this don't remember those days. But TV
Speaker 1: used to go off at midnight it would go black.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you don't hurt.
Speaker 3: That's that hurt.
Speaker 2: Boy. You know there wasn't a cartoon network. Oho, we had.
Speaker 2: We had a TV that had three channels on off
Speaker 2: And don't f with me. Oh you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: o Jo. We could barely see what was going on anyway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but you know, and I think that's the
Speaker 1: thing is that you understand, like, you know, look, as
Speaker 1: you grow, Ojo, your partner needs.
Speaker 2: To grow with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And sometimes what happened Oho, as I started to grow,
Speaker 1: they weren't growing. And then all of a sudden I
Speaker 1: became you know, I'll cause here's the thing on Joe
Speaker 1: I'm with Somebody was like, hey, hey, you know, most
Speaker 1: people gonna recognize wellam, They're gonna say, but I would
Speaker 1: always say, this is my partner. This is such a
Speaker 1: soch blah blah blah. But here's the kicker. When she
Speaker 1: wasn't with me right, didn't get no acknowledgement. So basically
Speaker 1: what she was, what she had become, was she was like,
Speaker 1: you're drowning me out.
Speaker 2: I can't be who I am, right right right? I
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 3: I think, you know, I think I'm kind of fortunate.
Speaker 3: It's kind of the opposite. It's kind of the opposite
Speaker 3: for me, a little bit, like I'm still who I am.
Speaker 3: But this young this young lady obviously really has her
Speaker 3: own identity. People, you know that she has her own
Speaker 3: identity to what it's gotten to the point where, oh
Speaker 3: it ain't that's Chad Johnson, Oh that's the dude. Sharill
Speaker 3: go with. But that's the dude, Sharilla. Excuse me, honey,
Speaker 3: Well I was out there catching them touchdowns. That was celebrating.
Speaker 1: What you mean, that Sharp's girlfriend. So that's how that's
Speaker 1: how people would refer to her. It wasn't her name.
Speaker 1: It was like, oh, this is this is a Shannon
Speaker 1: Sharp's girlfriend. This is Shannon sharp significant other, right, And
Speaker 1: she's like, that's not my name.
Speaker 3: That's crazy, man. But I'm like, I'm still thinking about that.
Speaker 3: That that that that really bothers me. Like you going
Speaker 3: to work and you're going to practice and you coming
Speaker 3: back home from practice after hard days of work, and
Speaker 3: she gone, no, this was I was. I was.
Speaker 1: I was in Denver, she was she was in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: So I came home after the season. Oh oh no, no,
Speaker 1: after the season.
Speaker 2: She wasn't in my house with be at Denver.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, But damn man,
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 1: I mean, oh Joe, I looked at it like this,
Speaker 1: I didn't have to play pay for a movie. Hell,
Speaker 1: if I had to move, I had to pay for
Speaker 1: the body of the movie. Ass about of them.
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm with you when you're right and that's that's
Speaker 3: that's how I look at it. When when those situations
Speaker 3: fall apart, I remember the memories, I remember the good times.
Speaker 3: I focus on the good times. But then all in all,
Speaker 3: I think about what hell damn, I ain't got to
Speaker 3: pay for this no more, I ain't got to pay that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and now it's somebody else's responsibility. Yeah, then I feel
Speaker 3: better and I started smiling. Yeah, damn, that's crazy. Brou Hey,
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, that's some ship out of excuse. I'm
Speaker 3: sorry for cursing that old five dollars. That's something out
Speaker 3: of a movie. Man, that's something out of a movie.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the only thing I was mad about, oh Joe,
Speaker 1: she had cooks fans giving dinner and left all the
Speaker 1: pots about refrigerators.
Speaker 3: You mean she left, she and clean up before she left. No,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, but yeah. See I'm glad.
Speaker 2: I'm glad.
Speaker 3: I'm glad that they hinted she worked.
Speaker 2: Wonder one h