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Speaker 1: you vote for Nightcap punkin o'choke. Forty nine ers believe

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Speaker 3: Listen, I see where you're going. But that's that's very dramatic.

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Speaker 3: Of concrete all that stuff. But I'm saying even even

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Speaker 1: Let me ask your question, why did you celebrate? Because

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Speaker 3: Because you know, when you look good, you play good.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I mean I'm small example, on how I feel

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Speaker 1: But I'm just trying to say, but you wasn't willing

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Speaker 3: Right. That's that's exactly how I felt, and I understand

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Speaker 1: And you see the fruit basket. They put apples in

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Speaker 2: Some greats and some plums.

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Speaker 3: But I understand, I understand. You know their issue. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: Go to work. Now I have played on.

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Speaker 3: We got to make any excuses because if they lose, Now,

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Speaker 2: First no, no.

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Speaker 1: Because because once you start playing on you you get

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Speaker 2: It's less than ideal.

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Speaker 1: Normally what we did on Joe, if we had a

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Speaker 1: We might practice Friday on the turf, but we were

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Speaker 1: We were practiced on turf to get our bodies, you

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Speaker 2: So that was the way. That was the way Dan

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Speaker 2: What he got there is that.

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Speaker 2: But look, you made it this far.

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Speaker 1: And I don't believe the field is gonna determine who's

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Speaker 3: No. No, But again, when you when something like this happens,

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Speaker 1: I think that we were very fortunate Ojo because when

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Speaker 3: Which was amazing.

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Speaker 3: Especially back then. Now you think about a college facility, if.

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Speaker 1: You talk about Alabama, is she good? Or Ohio State

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Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars analytics, buddy. But right right, So,

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Speaker 1: but look, it didn't matter. We could have played it.

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Speaker 2: That wasn't gonna sold that defense.

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Speaker 3: You see the attitude you have, though mindset you have, Like,

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Speaker 3: Let's get out and get this work done. You cared

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Speaker 3: to even get to this point. Forget just the NFL,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just hated what it was raining. Show.

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Speaker 2: Never, never, Or when it was snowing or where.

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Speaker 2: The heat hot seats.

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Speaker 1: Just like you was at a game, bike Sharey was

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Speaker 1: And guess what offensive lineman All of them always went

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Speaker 3: I never I never understood that. Now. I didn't wear

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 1: I didn't want them holding, huh. Ain't want them jokes

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Speaker 3: You ain't got no choice, especially when it's cold, and

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Speaker 1: but he never put it never never went above, you know,

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Speaker 2: I couldn't. I couldn't wear a bunch of clothes.

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Speaker 3: No, I feel restricted.

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Speaker 2: I did too, I did, You're restrict.

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Speaker 3: I hate that. I hate the feeling feeling restricted another.

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Speaker 3: I want the bottom cleat and then put the shell

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Speaker 1: I had to always have that as had a cut

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Speaker 2: He would cut all the inside out of his shoes

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Speaker 1: Know, ed any Eddie shoulder pants were smaller than the kickers,

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Speaker 3: the one thing I remember Ed McCaffrey having them big

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Speaker 2: Yeah. That's that's how Ed was.

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Speaker 1: Because I needed to be the first person that I

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Speaker 1: I said, Ed, I think we'd be lighted.

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Speaker 2: We did it. He's like, you think, so, you think

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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, so, Ed, and I gutted it,

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Speaker 1: Patrew Mahmes says that he's not even halfway close to

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Speaker 1: being compared to Brady. Mahomes told reporters tonight that he

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Speaker 1: didn't think he was even close to halfway what Brady

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Speaker 1: is accomplished in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: The goal is to be the best player you can.

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Speaker 1: I've been blessed to have a lot of great players

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Speaker 1: around me, and now it's doing whatever I can to

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Speaker 1: beat a great forty nine ers team and try to

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Speaker 1: get a third rate. You asked me the question like

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Speaker 1: fifteen years, and I'll see if I can get close

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Speaker 1: to seven seventh seems like a long waves away. Does

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Speaker 1: mahone need seven rings to be the goal?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean when you think about it, I

456
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Speaker 3: think what he's done so far, it's a reason he's

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Speaker 3: even in the conversation because of what he's been able

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Speaker 3: to do in such a short amount of time. Now,

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Speaker 3: if they're able to keep that team together, obviously the

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Speaker 3: pieces are going to change that time due to due

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Speaker 3: to money and players wanting to leave due to the

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Speaker 3: success that they're going to have. But with Andy Reid

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Speaker 3: and knowing that the offensive mind that he has and

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Speaker 3: the ability to draft, the ability to attract free agents

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Speaker 3: because Patrick Mahomes is there, they will always be able

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Speaker 3: to continue to have success offensively and defensively. So I

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Speaker 3: think there's a chance that this can continue, and I

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Speaker 3: think the Kansas City Chiefs are going to have the

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Speaker 3: exact same type of run with Patrick Mahomes and Andy

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Speaker 3: Andy Reid being together. That Bill Belichick and Tom Brady

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Speaker 3: had I think that they're going to have the same

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Speaker 3: exact type of run.

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Speaker 1: I would really like it even more so if trave

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Speaker 1: within year six as opposed to year eleven or twelve, seven, right, right, right,

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Speaker 1: because the like because you look at Mahomes in year seven,

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Speaker 1: how many more years you think Trav is gonna be

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Speaker 1: able to play at the level that he's playing at,

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Speaker 1: And so at some point in time he eventually will

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Speaker 1: start to slow down now to be able to try

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Speaker 1: to replace him. Because think about it, Brady won some

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls and this is not a knock on Christian Fourier.

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Speaker 1: He had Wiggins, he had a couple of guys that

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Speaker 1: wasn't gronk, right, but he did have gronk from you

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Speaker 1: know when he started winning the second half twenty fourteen,

485
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Speaker 1: stuff like that, they went in against the Rams, they

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Speaker 1: win it against the legion of Boom.

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Speaker 2: He goes to Tampa. So but for me personally, I

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Speaker 2: don't think he needs seven to be come.

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Speaker 3: To goa noxact.

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Speaker 1: No, because I think the thing is is that we

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Speaker 1: got to look at the total body of work. What

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Speaker 1: he would excuse me, what Tom was able to do

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Speaker 1: is that Tom got all the records. So let's just say,

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Speaker 1: for the sake of argument, Mahomes gets five, but he

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Speaker 1: has more passing yards, more passing touchdowns, more regular season MVPs, right,

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Speaker 1: because it can be most rings because people say Jordan's

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Speaker 1: the goat, and he doesn't have the most rings. He

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Speaker 1: doesn't have the most regular season MVPs, he doesn't have

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Speaker 1: the most points, he doesn't have the most rebounds, he

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Speaker 1: doesn't have the most assists, he doesn't have the most blocks,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have the most steals.

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Speaker 2: So it can't be just the quality of but it's

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Speaker 2: the total.

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Speaker 1: People believe Jordan's to go because you look at Okay

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Speaker 1: MVPs in the in the postseason he has six MVPs.

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Speaker 1: In the regular season he has five, and his level

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Speaker 1: of play well, So if you look at Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: there's a chance that he might be five for five.

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Speaker 1: Also might he might only win five super Bowl, But

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Speaker 1: the likelihood of someone else being the MVP isn't very good. Now,

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Speaker 1: it could happen, I Wasama Checko might have one of

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Speaker 1: those one of those Rickey Smith type days and he

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Speaker 1: goes for two hundred plus yards. But even when Smith

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Speaker 1: ran for two hundred yards. Doug Williams was the MVP

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Speaker 1: because he had over three hundred and through for four touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: Because it is still a passing league now, the likelihood

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Speaker 1: of a running back. When was the last time of

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Speaker 1: running back when the MVP had then the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 2: You got to go back. Oh, TV, maybe was a

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Speaker 2: TV in ninety ninety seven.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of another running back that won

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Speaker 1: it because when Willie Parker had that day.

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Speaker 2: Hines Ward won the MVP. MVP.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm trying to figure out. I think it's

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Speaker 1: TV might have been the last running back to win

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Speaker 1: the MVP. It's a Super Bowl MVP, not.

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Speaker 2: It was TD.

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Speaker 1: Think about it's that's twenty five, that's three years ago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to have a hell of performance as

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Speaker 3: a running back to actually get that to get that award.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he had one hundred fifty seven and three tds

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Speaker 1: and he missed the quarter for so, like I said,

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Speaker 1: it's the way they in the way they've trained changed

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Speaker 1: the rules. Now, O Joe, it's gonna be hard for

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Speaker 1: running unless he unless he goes out there and have

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Speaker 1: a Derrick Henry a two hundred and fifty yard game.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be hard for a running back.

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Speaker 3: Listen you and obviously he doesn't have these not that

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Speaker 3: style of back, but if you that type of back,

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Speaker 3: if the Jacore that type of back that can hit

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Speaker 3: his head off the gold post from anyone to feel

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Speaker 3: like a Chris Johnson type.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, Christian McCaffrey then played the old Joe. Christian

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Speaker 1: McCaffrey is then play because he can run.

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Speaker 2: It and catch it. Oh yeah, oh yeah, he's definitely

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Speaker 2: in play. He's definitely in play for Super Bowl MVP.

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Speaker 1: Now, I believe he has probably the third best odds

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Speaker 1: behind My Homes, Purty and and Eve. Next, right, if

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Speaker 1: any running back is gonna win it, the best chance

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Speaker 1: is it gonna be this year with ce Matt because

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Speaker 1: he can do it all. Yeah, he could have one

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Speaker 1: hundred yards rushing, he can have a one hundred yards receiver,

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Speaker 1: and he's a touchdown machine.

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Speaker 2: So if anybody, if.

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Speaker 1: Anybody's gonna if any running back is gonna do what

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Speaker 1: the last person to do, what TV did for the

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Speaker 1: Broncos Super Bowl thirty two, it's gonna be c Man.

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Speaker 2: Versatile, so versatile, so versatile.

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Speaker 1: Uh Mooney Wards spoke about handling this week before the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl. He said, well, the super bowls in Vegas,

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Speaker 1: so he might turn up a little bit the first

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Speaker 1: day or two uh two out there, but after that

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Speaker 1: it's really just focused. Who is he played for? Oh

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Speaker 1: don't I don't know him. The whole week is really

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Speaker 1: like a movie. You're gonna see celebrities everywhere.

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Speaker 2: No, you not. You do understand, And this is what

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Speaker 2: we told This is what we told the guys.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, you do realize the festivities is for the

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Speaker 1: people that's coming right to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Game is for you.

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Speaker 1: That's the only thing for you, the super Bowl, right,

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Speaker 1: he said, the pre game you might see jay Z, Beyonce,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Hart, you probably will. But still the game at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, we still got to go

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Speaker 1: out there and try to wear this actually the super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: You know that. You don't want to f that up

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Speaker 2: in the super Bowl. And that's it.

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Speaker 1: All the festivity that's going on and everybody gonna be

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Speaker 1: having these parties and you, first of all, you know

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Speaker 1: what Vegas represents minus the super Bowl. So now you

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Speaker 1: bring the super Bowl, the biggest event in North the

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Speaker 1: biggest sporting event in North America. So basically you got

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Speaker 1: a five six, six seven exit. Yeah, your super Bowl

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Speaker 1: in Vegas. You know what the super Bowl is like

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Speaker 1: in Miami. You know what the super Bowl is like

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Speaker 1: in New Orleans. You know what the super Bowl is

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Speaker 1: like in different places. Now add Vegas to the mix.

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Speaker 1: So you already known it's own one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, most definitely, yeah, at all. I think what the

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Speaker 3: first two days they get to enjoyed themselves, right the

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Speaker 3: first Yeah, we.

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Speaker 1: Got down there on a I mean we got down

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Speaker 1: on a Sunday. We had curfew at one o'clock, so

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Speaker 1: we got curfew at one o'clock. And then we got

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Speaker 1: that Sunday. So you had curfew at one o'clock Sunday,

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Speaker 1: you had I think it like eleven thirty maybe midnight

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Speaker 1: on Monday, and then you was on a regular schedule.

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Speaker 3: Uh Wednesday, on Wednesday. Yeah, okay, okay, because okay, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think you know, especially for those that have.

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Speaker 2: Oh mondy Ward is Travarius Ward. Oh I was like,

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Speaker 2: who that? Why should you put his name in anyway?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 2: I don't nobody come man.

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Speaker 1: Call it okay, but when were doing it, you gotta understand,

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Speaker 1: as we were speaking to people at home, that's not

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Speaker 1: his teammates. And that's what I happen, you know, Like

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, we call people by their nickname, because everybody

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Speaker 1: on the team got a nickname, won't Joey?

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Speaker 3: You know what, I didn't even know who he was

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Speaker 3: talking about. I didn't talk about because you didn't say

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Speaker 3: you didn't, says Ward?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, travarious. So that's what I'm saying, like money War,

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Speaker 2: who is money Ward?

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's that's his nickname.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what everybody called it. Everybody on the team

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Speaker 2: might call him that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I ain't know you called it that. Oh, lo

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Speaker 3: have murch listen that ship the way the way you've

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Speaker 3: been got damn playing. He can go ahead and enjoy it.

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Speaker 2: Be money.

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Speaker 1: Balling out of his mind. But yeah, that's that's the thing,

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Speaker 1: Oh Joe. I think the thing is you go ahead

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Speaker 1: and you get it out of your system. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think. Because they're out, they're out, they're

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Speaker 1: off the strip. And so the NFL got these they

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Speaker 1: got these resources. That's really really nice. That's conclusive, and

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Speaker 1: so hey, I don't think the NFL really want those players,

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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers and the Chiefs coming to the

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Speaker 1: strips and and and doing anything. I don't care if

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Speaker 1: you just playing a little five dollar a hand of

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Speaker 1: black jacket anything else. They don't want any cost cross contamination.

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Speaker 1: So they're probably advising them. Maybe maybe they got a

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Speaker 1: little situation set up at their hotel. You can play

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Speaker 1: black jack, you can play roulette, you can play craft,

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Speaker 1: you got a couple of slot machine.

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Speaker 2: You can do all the stuff that you would normally

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Speaker 2: do on the strip and just do it here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I don't y'all. I don't know

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Speaker 3: that even even if you have all those amenities for

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Speaker 3: them at your hotel. You know, the boys getting out,

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Speaker 3: you know them boys getting out, they're getting out until

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Speaker 3: it's time, especially the first few days, first, the first

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Speaker 3: two days or whatever. Have the schedule. Maybe if you're

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Speaker 3: getting there early, I think.

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Speaker 2: To me, I think she's got there yesterday. She's got

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Speaker 2: there on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Sunday, so I know Monday will have a day. Maybe

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Speaker 3: you have Tuesday off.

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Speaker 2: Well, when you do nothing, but you got to take

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Speaker 2: your pictures.

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Speaker 1: That's your media day because see normally, oh shoe Tuesday

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Speaker 1: was was the media day. So that's when you put

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Speaker 1: your uniform on you got your look, you got your

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Speaker 1: NFL your Super Bowl patches pass, and you go out there,

656
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: you talk to the media, and that's when you take

657
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: your Super Bowl picture. But now the media aspect is

658
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: out of the way because they make that a big event, right,

659
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: and so now you just go out there Tuesday. I

660
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: don't know if maybe you have a walk through or

661
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: something and uh you go, you know, you do what

662
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: you needed. I think we had a walk through on Monday.

663
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think we might have had a walk

664
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: through so damn long ago, but aint none but an

665
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: hour or two. Now. Look here, I don't know who

666
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: told you. I don't know who told you what have

667
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: walked through was. But I walked through with no joke, right,

668
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: I walked ain't no. I don't know who turned it

669
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: turned it that, but they needed to call I was

670
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: a run through, y'all. Yeah, y'all be moving.

671
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 2: This is how we knew.

672
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: We played Green Bay right, and we played Atlanta the

673
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: first two days. Ball didn't hit the dirt, y'all, boy,

674
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: because see what we did.

675
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: I don't know.

676
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: Look, I'm thinking like West Coast, and I can speak

677
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: West Coast. We put our plate, we put everything in

678
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: the week before. So once we got to the location,

679
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: it's dress rehearsals.

680
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know it. Now.

681
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: You might add a play here there and come up

682
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: with a specialty play. You might add one play for

683
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: third and one to three, or you might have a

684
00:31:58,920 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: little gadget play.

685
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 2: You might something. But all the heavy lifting is done

686
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 2: back home. So when we ate, So when we hit

687
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 2: that field on Wednesday, to get.

688
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 3: It, yeah, smooth selling.

689
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: I didn't have to my game have to say nothing, right,

690
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: Brian didn't have to say nothing, because we did the

691
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: same thing. We put the thing in in Baltimore. We

692
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: put we put the game plan in the week before,

693
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: the week before we left, and so when we got there,

694
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: it was just like boom boom boom boom boom boom

695
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: boom boom. Right, and then you watched and you watch

696
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: that defense. I was like, Lord, have mercy, I said, boy.

697
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: I felt so I batik them, I did, Oh, Joe,

698
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: I felt bad. Man.

699
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 2: If you saw, if you saw the way Radom was

700
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: hunting practice.

701
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey they they y'all was thtunding up back then.

702
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 2: No, we didn't.

703
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: We didn't throw up. We didn't, we didn't thought up. Well, no, no, no, no, no,

704
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: but you could sell. You could tell the way it

705
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: was focused. They was on everything. Every guys who where

706
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: they were supposed to be right, I mean it wasn't. No,

707
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: everything was contested without putting somebody on the ground. Where

708
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: they try to run a comeback, Uh starts We called

709
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: him heavy.

710
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 2: Yeah there there they try to run a seventh round.

711
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: The one thing that Corey Harrison is one of the

712
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: best guys I've ever seen and play in the seventh round.

713
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: He automatically like if he got a whole safety, you

714
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: can nod all you want to to the post. He

715
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: ain't going he running to the seven. Now if you

716
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: if you run across the route, you got it. Yeah,

717
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: but height that he ain't bite that that that nodge

718
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: to the pole.

719
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 3: He up under that seventh Yeah you know you you

720
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 3: know you know these stars is my quarterback at Beach

721
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 3: High my freshman year in high school. Yeah, so Samorrow

722
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 3: Samorriw was the other receiver. And then when he starts

723
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 3: left and Samorriw was a quarterback and Samorrio Road was

724
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 3: uh quarterback.

725
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: Y'all y'all they win no state championship, did you?

726
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 3: No?

727
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 2: We ain't win No state though, y'all want someone on

728
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 2: that teller? What y'all with all that time?

729
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,719
Speaker 3: We was good though. Matter of fact, you know who

730
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 3: else was there? I just forgot Terry Cousins. Remember Terry Cousins. Yeah,

731
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 3: I do, Yeah, Terry Cousins State championship. It was all

732
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 3: on the same team, man.

733
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: Y'all that when I ask you, I know, y'all going

734
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: on the same team. You told me that at Beach

735
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: High School in Miami, did you win a state championship?

736
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 3: No, sir, No, sir. We was good though.

737
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 2: We was good.

738
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 3: Now we was a fight to see now.

739
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:28,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

740
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: But that's the thing I mean, Oh, Joe, do you

741
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: understand why you're there, because they're gonna chronicle this now.

742
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: M hey, if you go back this Super Bowl fifty eight, Yeah,

743
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: somebody gotta lose this game. Now, they're gonna have three

744
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: people that's gonna talk about it and what it was

745
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: like to go through the season, the ups, the downs,

746
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: the highs, the low and the win.

747
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

748
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't know if they chronicled

749
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: the Super well, I don't know if they have a

750
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: talk to the three players on the losing team and

751
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: it was fortunate unfortunate. It was fortunate for us. We

752
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: won as opposed to you kind of leave at the

753
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: same time. And you see all the buses pull up

754
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: on on at the airport and pull up and you

755
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: know the guys gonna get off the play and you

756
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: see them guys holding their head down and we up

757
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: there laughing and joking and talking and carry then talking.

758
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 3: Loud right, ain't feeling o O Joe.

759
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I don't never want to feel

760
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: like that. Thank you knock old would man, God bless me.

761
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: I went three times and got all three of them

762
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: because I can imagine I ain't.

763
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: Look, I ain't.

764
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: I don't know how you feel about this, so Joe,

765
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: But I tell people this all the time, Losing hurts

766
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: more than winning. Feel good, and you'll always remember the

767
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: losses more than you went remember the wins.

768
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, listen, I've done. I've done. I've

769
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 3: been through a lot of losing, you know, during my career,

770
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 3: obviously being in Cincinnati, uh to master losing. I try

771
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 3: to make it as fun and entertaining as possible. Even

772
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 3: though we were losing. We had a great year my

773
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 3: two thousand and five season. Obviously we went eleven and

774
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 3: five that year. Uh, And obviously Carson went down with

775
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 3: that that hit no by the d tackle with the Steelers.

776
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 3: That that's all on the first play of the game. Yeah, Chemo.

777
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 3: Other than that, everything was was decent. I go to

778
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 3: the Patriots. I didn't really contribute the way I would

779
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 3: have liked to, you know, that year, but we won,

780
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 3: and we won consistently, and getting to that Super Bowl

781
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 3: and playing against the Giants and that feeling, you know,

782
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 3: after losing it was bad. Now it was bad for me.

783
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 3: For one, I'm not contributing to where I want to

784
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,439
Speaker 3: and then on top of that, we lost the game.

785
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 3: So it was a double whammy, right, And that was the.

786
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 2: Second time in as many years that they had just lost.

787
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: They lost to the Giants in two thousand and seven,

788
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: and they turned around and lose to the Giants in

789
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: two thousand and teams.

790
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 3: Yeahed about the Giants. I don't know what it was

791
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 3: about them that what they just had.

792
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 2: Your quarterback without sacrificing their back. Yet then go and

793
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 2: it comes on the plays, Uh, Tom sees the whole safety.

794
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: He tried to throw at the west back shoulder, West

795
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: doesn't open his heill fully all around. He drops it

796
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: because if he gets that, that's the first down. The

797
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: ball game's over over.

798
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you remember the play.

799
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 2: I absolutely remember the play.

800
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: And I understand why Tom Brady threw it behind him

801
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: because he's worried about West getting blowed up.

802
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: But our whole safety.

803
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he was sitting right there. He was waiting

804
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 3: on him.

805
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 2: He ain't gonna blow his ass up. But see that.

806
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: But see Ojo, that's the thing as I analyze you

807
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: and I, we played the game, and so you understand

808
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: why quarterbacks do certain things. See when John would put

809
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: the ball, Like, if I'm facing John, let's just say

810
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: we call it a shortcross.

811
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 2: Some people call it a wall rock.

812
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: If John put the ball between the eight and the four,

813
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: he's telling me, trying to get up in your shadow.

814
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 1: They're coming from both sides. Just turn to get straight

815
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 1: up the field. If he put it on one side

816
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: of the other, he's telling me go to that side

817
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: because he can see what I can. Right, So he's

818
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 1: telling me, if he put it here, I'm turning in there.

819
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 1: If he puts it here, I'm turning there. If he

820
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: puts it in my chest, I'm getting right. I'm getting

821
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: up in my shadow. Now I'm gonna feel some type

822
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 1: of way if he put it here and I turned

823
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: there and do don't clean my damn clock, all right,

824
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: and he you know, hey, I'm gonna be looking at

825
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: him site like ba gie okay, But I'm.

826
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 2: Saying you so you understand that.

827
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: So when he look Wes being who he is, he

828
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: wasn't an undrafted player, he wasn't a rookie player. Wes

829
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: welcome was one of the best. And so that's a

830
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: catch that you really expect him to make. But I understood, fool, Well,

831
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 1: why Tom put it on his back shoulder. That's say,

832
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: gonna clean his clock. And Tom is very conscious of

833
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: not putting his receivers in harm's weight, spoken about that

834
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: about why he would throw certain balls certain ways because

835
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: he didn't want the guy to get knocked out of

836
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: the game. Right, But uh, Wes couldn't come down with

837
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 1: the ball. They have to punt. And then Eli makes

838
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: two incredible.

839
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 3: Throws crows that many ham Man and ham.

840
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: On the side sideline.

841
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: Catch against too bad. You can't, you can't, you can't

842
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: do it. You can't do it any better than that. Yeah,

843
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: so oh Choe, check this out. The Commander's hired Cliff

844
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 1: Kingsbury fire Eric be Enemy. I don't think any surprise

845
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: that Eric Benemy was fired. Commanders fire Eric being in

846
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 1: me after one season with the team, Quinn said, he

847
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: delivered the news to the enemy in person.

848
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 2: Today.

849
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 1: We won't work together here, but I wanted him to

850
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: know I really respect the work he's done.

851
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:39,479
Speaker 2: I wish him nothing but the best.

852
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: They also hired Cliff Kingsbury yesterday, and people are speculating

853
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 1: that Washington couldn't move up to two since Cliff worked

854
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,479
Speaker 1: with Caleb at UFC and Caleb is from DC.

855
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 3: It's possible. Yeah, it's possible. I mean, when you want

856
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 3: somebody bad enough, you will find a way to get

857
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 3: up there and get him, especially when it comes to

858
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 3: a quarter back of that Magnet magnitude who has an

859
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 3: opportunity I think to actually change that franchise around. When

860
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 3: I think about him going to well, who the hell

861
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 3: is going number one? Marvin Harrison Jr.

862
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: No, Oh yeah, yeah, I don't unless they know something

863
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 1: we don't. I think they need to move up to

864
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 1: one in order to assure they get Caleb Willis or

865
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to you have to give take a

866
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 1: king's ransom. Boy, are you gonna have to give up

867
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: a heap of ship for that? Oh, it's gonna take

868
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 1: at least three ones, because look at look at what

869
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: San Francisco gave up. But San Francisco. San Francisco didn't

870
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: have to go from twelve to three. Right, But you're

871
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 1: still gonna have to give up three to one. You're

872
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 1: gonna have to give up a two, a couple of threes. Oh,

873
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to give it up something yet, defic

874
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: But if you but if you believe he's the guy,

875
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: Kansas City people look like, man, they stole pat you

876
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: homes now, even though they gave up three one, two

877
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: or the three?

878
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 2: Right?

879
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 3: And that's just the hiring. And mister a Cliff, I

880
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 3: always think about it when you look at his resume,

881
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 3: it's not one that jumps off the charts at you, like,

882
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 3: you know what, this is someone that we need in

883
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 3: the building. This is someone that can help us from

884
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 3: a coaching standpoint, And.

885
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 2: Really, they always fails up. I ain't never seen nobody

886
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 2: fall up as much as he did.

887
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,959
Speaker 3: And I think you know, he got the job based

888
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 3: on relationships obviously, and the people, you know, and when

889
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 3: it comes to the coaching tree, the coaching umbrella, and

890
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 3: the coaching family, there will always be someone under that

891
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 3: umbrella that will be willing to give you a job

892
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 3: based on who you know. That's what That's what it

893
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 3: all comes down to. It comes down to who you

894
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 3: know and.

895
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 2: What you know.

896
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, That's what I tell people. This is what

897
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: I've learned since I've been on the business side. It's

898
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: not about how much. It's not about your education. It's

899
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: about relationships.

900
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

901
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've read somewhere like eighty percent of the jobs

902
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 1: that get fieled don't get posted.

903
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

904
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 2: Hey, oh Joe, you know we're hiring over here. Hey, Ash,

905
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 2: what what you're looking for a job?

906
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 1: Hey?

907
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 2: They hiring over here, right, Hey, I'll put you I'll

908
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 2: put a word in for you. Yeah. Sure, see how

909
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: that workd Ojoe?

910
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: Every time, it's all about it's all about relationship.

911
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 2: When they say it's not about what you know, is

912
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 2: who you know? That is one thousand.

913
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 3: That's why it's very important. That's why it's very very important,

914
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 3: very imperative. Even those that are any check that are

915
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 3: watching is imperative that you don't burn bridges. It's imperative

916
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 3: that you don't burn bridges because you never know who

917
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 3: you might meet and be rude to in life that

918
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 3: laid on down the road. They might They might not

919
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 3: be the exact person you need, but that might they

920
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 3: might be the bridge of somebody else that can say,

921
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 3: yeah you know what I know, so and so good dude.

922
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 3: So if you think about hiring them, think about hind her.

923
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 3: That's a route to go.

924
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: Yep, Man, I ain't really never worked with Ocho, but man,

925
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: I hear a number good things about it and laughed.

926
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I had a bloody that worked with the man.

927
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: He a really hard work on time. Don't cause any problems.

928
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: Okay they don't, but he do.

929
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 3: He cursed. He cursed too much, that's bout it.

930
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, because if you remember, think about Cliff got

931
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: the job why because he worked with who do you

932
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: work with?

933
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 2: Caleb?

934
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: No?

935
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 2: Uh? He coached Caler and Lola?

936
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 3: Oh okay, well okay, okay here here, okay, okay, okay.

937
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 3: I thought I thought you talked.

938
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 2: About didn't he coach? Yeah?

939
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's I don't know, man, But don't you

940
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 3: know how to look at the resume, look at the

941
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 3: difference in resumes. How do you not retain and bring

942
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 3: back be inge me based on what he's accomplished so

943
00:43:58,560 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 3: far in the NFL.

944
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: Well, if you look at Ojo, Ojo, if you look

945
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: at it, if you look at Washington's stats the previous year,

946
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: they were down with the enemy. So it's not like

947
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 1: you say, well, hey, we were the fourth best offense.

948
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: We scored the seventh most points, We had to disc

949
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: most first downs. I mean, so, so what what what

950
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: are we hiring? It based on?

951
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,720
Speaker 3: Oh say, what do you what are you hiring Cliff

952
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 3: Cliff based.

953
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: On I get it, Ojoe, But you're asking someone, you're

954
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: asking someone to hire someone.

955
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 2: And that look, I get it. I took Cliff King

956
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 2: very had fallen up a lot mm hm.

957
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: And that's why I said every b enemy should have

958
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: stayed his ass in Kansas City.

959
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 2: He wandered out.

960
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,439
Speaker 3: He wants the opportunity to be a head coach.

961
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: I'm not going to Washington. Rivera was gonna get fired.

962
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: Sam Howell is not gonna win you enough games to

963
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: keep that job. Ojoe, you got to survey the land.

964
00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: You gotta up you.

965
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 2: Hey, read the temperature, Ojo, read the temperature.

966
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 3: I mean I heard an all season before the season

967
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 3: started this season right here, they said Sam how was

968
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,439
Speaker 3: the guy. They said Sam Howe was the guy based

969
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,240
Speaker 3: on how you played good season.

970
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: If he's the if he's the answer, what's the question

971
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 1: you asked the quarterback? Who's gonna be the starting quarterback

972
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 1: for the Washington football team or the Commanders? If that's

973
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 1: the question, If that's the answer that you gave. Okay,

974
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: that's a perfect logically that's a perfect logic logical question, right.

975
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: Anything outside of that, Sam and Howland is not the answer. Yeah,

976
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: I got you, Avery be animated. Should have known that.

977
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: I almost stay my butt right there. And now look

978
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: at it, Ojo. Now you've got Kansas City back in

979
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 1: the super Bowl again.

980
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 3: How about this? Knowing Andy Reid, does Andy Reid bring

981
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 3: Eric being in me back so they can work together again?

982
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 3: And I probably will probably go for a fourth one

983
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 3: next year? Yeah, maybe go for a fifth one the.

984
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 2: Year after that?

985
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: Red one thing about Red and I read Red Red

986
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 1: you know be good people?

987
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he very You know where you're staying

988
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 3: with Red? Oh yeah, yeah, you know. I think being

989
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 3: to me, he will be He'll be there next year.

990
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 3: He will be there. I don't think any red would

991
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 3: leave him out like that. I just I just hate

992
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 3: to see a coach that has had success with two,

993
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 3: you know, winning two suit Bowls, just just out on

994
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 3: the street like that with other coaches that aren't proving

995
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 3: getting jobs.

996
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: Yes, I agree, oyo, I agree, but I have to

997
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: understand now think about it.

998
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 3: O yo.

999
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: I'm struggling getting interviews, and I don't, like I said,

1000
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened to everybody say he's not

1001
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: interviewing well, I mean it's hard, just like, how does

1002
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: somebody not interview?

1003
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 2: Well?

1004
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: This is the system I implement. These are some of

1005
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: the coaches I'm looking at hired to feel the position.

1006
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: This is the defensive coordinator. This is the offensive coordinator.

1007
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: This is my glame plan. This is how like the

1008
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: practice during the course of the week. These are my

1009
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: meeting time. There is a lifting time. I like to

1010
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: travel at this time. I like to leave it this

1011
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 1: YadA YadA, y'alla. Right, I'm trying to that that can't

1012
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,240
Speaker 1: be that hard, especially after you do it several times.

1013
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: You should get better at it each and every time

1014
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: because you kind of know what the questions they're gonna ask.

1015
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,919
Speaker 2: But I just I don't.

1016
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't, I don't get me personally, I'm

1017
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: not taking that job. Why am I hold on? O?

1018
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 2: Yo? Check this out?

1019
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: Now, he's already on thin ice. I'm on, I'm I'm

1020
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: on the shore, right. Why would I go join somebody

1021
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: on thin ice? And I'm perfectly fine over here right?

1022
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: Because now look at all the coaches they got jobs.

1023
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: Look at the black coaches that got jobs. Raheem Morris,

1024
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:58,479
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, uh, Ap got a job. Uh, Dard Mayo

1025
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: got a job. Now Drowd Mao and Ap situation was

1026
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 1: a little unique. Ap with the introim played extremely well,

1027
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: we knew that seemed to be a fourgone conclusion. It

1028
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: seems to me that Coach Bell, that mister Kraft already

1029
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: had a secession planned already in place, that when Coach

1030
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 1: Belichick left, Mayo was gonna take over.

1031
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 2: He liked what he stood for, he liked the man

1032
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 2: that he had watched him grow. But I'm not I'm not.

1033
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wish, I wish the situation with Eric would

1034
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 3: be enemy would be would have been similar to that

1035
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 3: of Antonio Pears with the Las Vegas Raiders, with the

1036
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 3: players vouching for him. Publicly, you know, even mac crosby

1037
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 3: going even to the extent of saying, listen, if we

1038
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 3: don't bring apn or bring him back as our head coach,

1039
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 3: I'm asking for a trade.

1040
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 2: Wow. You know.

1041
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 3: And I think if the enemy was that type of coach,

1042
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,919
Speaker 3: and I see him as a players coach, I'm not sure.

1043
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 3: The only rumblings or any thing negative I heard about

1044
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 3: him obviously came from Shady McCoy. Uh, And I guess

1045
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 3: they're exchange. And and the way he coaching was wasn't

1046
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 3: he didn't see fit on on on on how he

1047
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 3: how he did him. And that's the only you know,

1048
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 3: bad thing I've ever heard.

1049
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: Remember Tyreek because he says up because uh, Shady didch

1050
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: comment and and and Tyreek Reek chined there and say, hey,

1051
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 1: you're still mad because he told you to talk that ball.

1052
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 2: Huh. Because you know Shady McCoy like to.

1053
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 3: Hold the ball in one hand, Yeah he does. He does.

1054
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 2: He gonna make you.

1055
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: Talk that ball because the last thing you want to

1056
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: do is turn the ball over into the races like that.

1057
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: So that's what we don't know. I wasn't there, so

1058
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: I could I couldn't speculate. Uh, Shady has this reason

1059
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 1: why he doesn't believe that EB has become a head

1060
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: coach yet. I don't know what there are I haven't

1061
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 1: been in any of those meetings. I haven't heard any

1062
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: ownership group or anybody that could possibly be in those

1063
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: meetings say anything. So I don't want to speculate either

1064
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: way if you.

1065
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 2: Ask me, But that's what he says.

1066
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: Reports are saying Mike Brable didn't work out in Genescy

1067
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,760
Speaker 1: because he was too large of a human. Diana Rassini reported,

1068
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a fit for him. I don't

1069
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: think he's sat in front of of any owner who

1070
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: thought of his style was going to work for what

1071
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: they were looking for. I had a GM at the

1072
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl who mentioned to me Brabel's physical bill that

1073
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: he's a very large human being and that can be

1074
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 1: very intimidating the people in the organization that's going to

1075
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: be a part of these decisions.

1076
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 2: And that was and that is a factor.

1077
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 3: What what the hell is someone's physical appearance has to

1078
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 3: do it being?

1079
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 2: But he was too big, and you know if they

1080
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 2: he get mad, he might do something bad to it.

1081
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 3: The type of excuses of the people that run these organizations.

1082
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 3: I want to take you serious.

1083
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 2: Do you are you?

1084
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 3: Do you really want to win? And when you hear

1085
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 3: stuff like that, you you think about it? Do you

1086
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 3: really want to win games?

1087
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 2: What part of my note the end or the old

1088
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 2: did you get like?

1089
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 3: Come on, oh, we're intimidated by his size? What are

1090
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 3: we talking about? I never heard a lot about you.

1091
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 3: I don't heard a lot. That's the first time I've

1092
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 3: ever heard so. I never I ain't never heard that

1093
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 3: one either, especially not not in the sport that we play.

1094
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 3: Have you seen some of the linemen that are even

1095
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 3: on your team whatever GM said that, have you seen

1096
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 3: some of the sides of some of the people on

1097
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 3: the old line D line? You talking about the head

1098
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 3: coach now, I've heard is physically imposing.

1099
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 1: Huh yeah, I've heard that maybe he should lose You've

1100
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: got coaches should lose a few pounds, or he should,

1101
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 1: you know, groom himself a little better. I've heard things

1102
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: like that, but physically imposing. Kenny got coach excuses.

1103
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 3: Excuses. Listen, I thought he only did players like that.

1104
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 2: Well, clearly, I guess, I guess not.

1105
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 3: That's crazy.

1106
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought I thought Brable, I think he's

1107
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: gonna get another chance to coach again.

1108
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 3: He'll get an out of shot. I'm sure he's gonna

1109
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:10,479
Speaker 3: get a shot at some point.

1110
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: What about Bill, The question is, oh, Joe, coach Belichick

1111
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: is in his seventies. The question is that I think

1112
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:23,479
Speaker 1: general managers and owners are having Does his message still

1113
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: resonate with these young players when you don't have a

1114
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: Tom Brady in the locker room that can control everything

1115
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: because guys might want to be mutant and Tom say, hey, guys,

1116
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 1: don't worry about that.

1117
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 2: We got this. We're gonna win the game regardless.

1118
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: So unless you have a Tom Brady or you have

1119
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: a guy the equivalent equivalent of that, say, Patrick.

1120
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 3: Mahomes, is kind of iffy. Even even with Belichick being

1121
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 3: in his seventies, do you I wonder if he can

1122
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 3: adapt to today's era, adapt to today's younger kids as

1123
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 3: far as the coaching style kind of kind of manipulate

1124
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 3: his coaches out a little bit to fit, you know,

1125
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 3: today's kids, you know, as opposed to you know, I

1126
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 3: think some of the same, some of the stuff he

1127
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 3: did during his day really wouldn't work or resonate with

1128
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 3: young kids in today's today's era. I'm just curious about

1129
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 3: that because it seemed like most of the coaches and

1130
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 3: most of the decision makers are going younger. Yeah, you know,

1131
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 3: as far as head coaches are.

1132
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 1: Concerned, these young kids are different now, oh Joe, and

1133
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: and I think for me, I am glad I didn't.

1134
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: I didn't play in this era because I take it

1135
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 1: I'm too serious about it.

1136
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 2: Right.

1137
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: I don't care know about no cars. I don't care

1138
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:38,919
Speaker 1: about no jewel. I don't care about how many kicks

1139
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: you got. I ain't got nothing to do with me.

1140
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: Can you help me win?

1141
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, that's all I need to know. Are you meeting?

1142
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: Are you are you ready to play? Are you practicing hard?

1143
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: Are you doing what you need to do to help

1144
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: me win games? That's all I cared about, right. I

1145
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: didn't come. I didn't come to make friends, and so

1146
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: that that's what I thing about you. I'm I'm very

1147
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 1: matter of fact and why I'm here. And I think

1148
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: that's why Coach is like me, because there was never

1149
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,720
Speaker 1: man man. I wonder I wanted to Shannon is prepared.

1150
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 1: I wonder if he's doing what he's supposed to be doing.

1151
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: Coach has never had to worry about that. My college

1152
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: coach told me, said if I had, if I had

1153
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: fifty Shannon Sharp. Because I told him, he said hey,

1154
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: he called me too, he said, two you ready, I said, coach,

1155
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: this was my sophomore Yearly like my first game of

1156
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: my sophomore year, I said, coach, you ain't never got

1157
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: to worry about me getting ready, I said, getting the

1158
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:32,959
Speaker 1: mother fifty guys ready.

1159
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna show up for you. Every never had a

1160
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 2: problem Mike.

1161
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 3: Never.

1162
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 2: You know. Hey, Mike would always tell me go back

1163
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 2: and look at about a eighty four. Get him going.

1164
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 2: That was my job. He let me.

1165
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 1: He let me be me as far as practice. You know,

1166
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: I'm lose, O Joe, we got the soul trained thing

1167
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: coming down. But oh oh you're gonna do. Hey, you

1168
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: because here's the thing, because Mike looking at me sideways.

1169
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: So if you you mess up a play a walk through,

1170
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 1: now we're gonna have to stay out there longer. And

1171
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: so now I'm feel in some type of way because

1172
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: I remember when you was bull driving shooting basketball. I

1173
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: remember when you was bull driving on your phone. So

1174
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: now I gotta talk to you. I gotta have a

1175
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: conversation with you because you're messing up the church's money.

1176
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 2: Oh oh, oh joe, this.

1177
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 1: Thing, this thing for real, right, Like you couldn't come

1178
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: in club shape shape like we had club shap shape. Okay,

1179
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: guys could drag guys, you know, hey, smoke. You know

1180
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: we played they play video games. We rolling dice, were

1181
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: playing cards. Okay, normally we don't let rookies come in there,

1182
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 1: but you know, with a Clinton port and some of

1183
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: the guys don't f up, cut you f up, and

1184
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 1: you come back up down and slam the door in

1185
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 1: your face and put my foot in your ass.

1186
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,720
Speaker 2: It's really, oh Joe, it's really that simple.

1187
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: Man. Don't oh no, no, no, no, study your playbook,

1188
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: hey man, let me come up to the club. Shap

1189
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: your hell. Nah, you bust three plays today. You ain't

1190
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: going nowhere. You need to be in your playbook. Don't

1191
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: worry about club shape.

1192
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,720
Speaker 2: Right. I'm not winning oo.

1193
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a privilege long as long as long as

1194
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 3: you're on point.

1195
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 2: And so you know, we beat Ocho. We used to

1196
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 2: gamble on the plane.

1197
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, you know them boy and plays spades on

1198
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 3: the plane.

1199
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: They were playing Blue Ray. We playing We playing uh uh,

1200
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 1: they playing Blue Ray. We rolling dice. Okay, you know,

1201
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 1: we got sponsors at the front of the plane. They

1202
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: got to go to the bathroom. They see us, They

1203
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: mentioned some the mic, Mike's eighty eight eighty four. You know,

1204
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: I don't mind you guys gambling, right, but if you're

1205
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: gonna gamble, don't have the money out, I said, Mike,

1206
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: money out of sight calls a fight. I said, we

1207
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: might as well scrap this and wait till we get

1208
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: to the hotel room because I've been damn if y'all

1209
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 1: not gonna talk about Okay, I owe you that, No,

1210
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: hell nah, I need to see the money on the wood,

1211
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: right right, right, right right. Mike said, no more gambling. Hey,

1212
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: no gambling. Okay, I shut it down. Hey, we're in

1213
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: gambling now, come playoff time. Hey, Mike, you know, hey

1214
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: eighty four. Do what y'all do back there? Okay, right, that's.

1215
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 2: What we do. That's what we do.

1216
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: But my thing was I was an extension of mic

1217
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: because a lot of times, O Joe, we handle situation

1218
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: in the locker room before they got the mic. That's

1219
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: what leaders do. You don't wait the things get out

1220
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 1: of control, and then you go take it the mic.

1221
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: You suppress it before he has to ever hear about it.

1222
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: A lot of things that went on in that locker room.

1223
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: Mike had no idea idea. Yeah, and that's that's crazy.

1224
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: But what are your leaders for? You said you're just

1225
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: the leader just because that's just that's just a title.

1226
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: You've got to be able to do something if there

1227
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: are issues going on between team A. Bro, what's what's

1228
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: that about?

1229
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 2: Bro? How you mad you married? How you married? About

1230
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 2: why you're married? About somebody you're married?

1231
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 3: Man, y'all, y'all were back doing like that over there.

1232
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 3: But I know what you talk about it. I see

1233
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 3: where you're going to.

1234
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 2: But I'm made.

1235
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: I'm picking up what you're putting down. I didn't play that,

1236
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: and I ain't got no. I didn't have no allegiance

1237
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: to nobody's wife. But what I had allegiance to with

1238
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 1: that locker room and was to keep the peace. That

1239
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: was my allegiance. What you do if look what you did,

1240
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: as long as it didn't interfere with the locker room,

1241
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: I could care less on yo, I really could. Yeah,

1242
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: that's not my responsibility. Your wife wasn't married to me,

1243
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: you wouldn't married to me, so I don't give a damn.

1244
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: But I tell you what you're not gonna do. It's

1245
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 1: not gonna interfere what's going on in this locker room.

1246
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 2: So take that. He take that it somewhere else.

1247
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 3: But that sounds like a good story. Now you might

1248
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 3: want to go ahead and share that. Well, that thing sounds.

1249
00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 2: Hey hey, But here's the thing, o Yoe.

1250
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 1: I was reading the chat because I like to read

1251
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 1: the chat and say, like, okay, what what can then

1252
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: men ojo do differently?

1253
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 2: What could we add?

1254
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: And I was reading the story about this lady and

1255
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: the lady was saying with Shennon, what I've learned throughout

1256
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: my life is that when guys talk like you be talking,

1257
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 1: it's untrue. I've been on I've been on TV for

1258
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: the better part of twenty years, with the exception of

1259
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 1: two years. Oho that I do. I was out of

1260
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 1: work after I got the CBS, so those two years.

1261
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: But for the better part, so about eighteen years, Joe,

1262
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: I've been on TV. Name the one time I've told

1263
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: you a story about something that happened in Baltimore, Denver,

1264
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: and somebody came back said that didn't happen. Name the

1265
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: one time that I've said something about since you and

1266
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: I've been doing this, if it wasn't true, that some

1267
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: females can get over there and get on, can get

1268
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: on a fake account and say, shan a sharp line.

1269
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 1: That didn't happen, not one time. I understand now in

1270
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 1: today's society, a lot of people lie, But what the

1271
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: health of I want to lie?

1272
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 2: What the right?

1273
00:59:56,160 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 1: What it is? Now? I got some stories that, oh Joe,

1274
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 1: they say that the only difference between truth and fiction.

1275
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 2: Is that truth has to make fiction has to make sense.

1276
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: I got some stories that, man ain't no way to happen, right,

1277
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: absolutely was it did happen, and I was there.

1278
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 2: I was there.

1279
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: I might have been an active participant. But that's neither

1280
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: here north there. That's that's for the movie, right. But guys,

1281
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 1: I'm telling you things that have happened college, NFL, my

1282
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: personal life and and like a lot of times, some

1283
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 1: of these things that's happened with female women in my life.

1284
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 2: O Joe, we're cool. Thirty years were cool? Yeah. Hey.

1285
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 3: The fact that you've been able to accord remain a

1286
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 3: cordial relationship with people that you've dated and been intimate

1287
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 3: with even after the fact, it's very commendable, very very

1288
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 3: very commenable, because most of the time, you know, things

1289
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 3: always end on bad terms and there is no you know,

1290
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:14,919
Speaker 3: being friends. Once you cross a certain threshold, it's a rap.

1291
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 2: It took me a while to get to that. It

1292
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 2: took me a while.

1293
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: It took me a while because I was allowing these

1294
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 1: women to hold my feelings hostage. They were gone on

1295
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: with their lives, but I was in bondage. M M,

1296
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 1: so I said, I am not going to allow you

1297
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: to hold my feelings hostage. I refused to be in bondage,

1298
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: so I had to forgive. And yet it took me

1299
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 1: a while because some of them did some things that

1300
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: didn't have to do.

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01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 2: You could have just.

1302
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 1: I tell people all the time, out Joe, I don't

1303
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: have bars on my house, so it's not to keep

1304
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 1: you in or out right walk in the door.

1305
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 2: I'll allow you to walk out.

1306
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, boy, I like that.

1307
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 2: And so for me, it took it took me a while.

1308
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 2: It took me a while.

1309
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had situation, but I'm all because I believe,

1310
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 1: oh Choldren, I'm always gonna come out on the winning side.

1311
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 1: And so when they've done things to me, I was like, okay,

1312
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 1: it is what it is. You then you feel that's

1313
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: what you needed to do.

1314
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna win. I'm gonna win.

1315
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

1316
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: I've had said I've had situations O joe with women

1317
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:21,919
Speaker 1: that I've dated. They ended up getting married when they're

1318
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 1: going through hard times. Who you think they called for?

1319
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 2: Shanon?

1320
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: I want to get a door, So I said, no,

1321
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 1: you're not. I said, you better stay with that man.

1322
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 1: I said, you gotta understand how old you think you are?

1323
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. You got two kids?

1324
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 3: You this age?

1325
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 1: I said, I tell you what I'm gonna do. I'm

1326
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 1: gonna get you a hotel room. You stayed there for

1327
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 1: a week, y'all. Figure this is its shot. You don't

1328
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 1: need to leave him?

1329
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we talked, We talked. We talked about it

1330
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 3: last night. Nowig piggings get real, slimy.

1331
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 2: I said, who you think you about to get? I'm

1332
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 2: thinking about to get you and your you damn.

1333
01:02:56,120 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 3: The fit rehere. Reality will hit when you down in

1334
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 3: the streets and you see what's left over.

1335
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, you said, because you don't have a disagreement, Oh

1336
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:09,919
Speaker 1: he's said something that you didn't like or you don't

1337
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 1: like the way he Oh hell, now, y'all better solve that.

1338
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 1: And as a matter of fact, hey, I already got

1339
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 1: it taken care of. You ain't gotta show nothing. Everything

1340
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 1: that you need. The room and the incidentals are taken

1341
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 1: care of. Right, Stay your ass up there and makes

1342
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 1: a make sure you make the right decision.

1343
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, yeah, you make the wrong one. You're gonna look,

1344
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 3: You're gonna be looking down. You can be looking back

1345
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 3: mad than the mother. Come back ten years later they

1346
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 3: still married.

1347
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate that.

1348
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 3: But you ought to be a therapist, man, I could

1349
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 3: be oh t.

1350
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 1: The way I look at look, you and I didn't

1351
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: work out. I don't think you're a bad person. You

1352
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 1: might have not been right for me. I might have

1353
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: not been right for you, but you might be perfect

1354
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 1: for someone else.

1355
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 3: Something that's okay.

1356
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 2: That's okay. Kept at the end of the day, I

1357
01:03:59,120 --> 01:03:59,959
Speaker 2: want you to be happy.

1358
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 1: I might not can give you the happiness that you're

1359
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 1: looking for, but that doesn't mean I don't want you

1360
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 1: to have it.

1361
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 2: And if you found it at one point in time,

1362
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 2: stay there. I say it's easy.

1363
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: I said, damn, y'all the minute of heart, I thought,

1364
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 1: riches is important sickness in the health and.

1365
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 2: Well damn that. So y'all just talking up there in

1366
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 2: front of the main hunh, y'all just lied.

1367
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, they be ready to go now and just any

1368
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 3: of the slightest inconvenience things don't go well, or or

1369
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 3: you do something that don't don't sit right with them,

1370
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 3: or they ready to go. They ready to go, matter

1371
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 3: of fact, and they ready to go to somebody else

1372
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 3: that gonna do the exact same.

1373
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 2: Thing it worse. Yeah.

1374
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, you know my grandma said, my

1375
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 3: grandma always told me that you don't have to lie

1376
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 3: to you don't have to lie to a woman because

1377
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 3: she like you enough, she'll lied to herself. Yeah, for sure,

1378
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 3: have to lie to a woman because she like you enough.

1379
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 3: For them red flags look like six flags. Oh she's

1380
01:04:55,840 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 3: going for that ride, yeah, the color blind. Yeah, when

1381
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 3: it's when it's convenient, yes, based on the opportunity.

1382
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: But I but I want I want all the women

1383
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 1: that I've been with and in my time, I want

1384
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 1: them to find happiness. It wasn't for me, you know,

1385
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 1: we didn't work out. But if there's anything I can

1386
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 1: do to help you, and and you're in a situation.

1387
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 2: I got you.

1388
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 1: It didn't work for me all that, Like I said,

1389
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 1: and even though sometimes don't Joe, it didn't end on

1390
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 1: the best no, the best terms.

1391
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 2: We didn't end on the best terms. That's all right.

1392
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: I mean I think that that came from my grandmother

1393
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 1: and my sister. Because my sister, like, Shannon, you just

1394
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 1: pray about it. It's gonna be okay. Yeah you still

1395
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 1: She's like, you still my little She always tells me

1396
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 1: this when I every time, every time I'm always gone

1397
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 1: through something a breakup, she always she always reminds me

1398
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 1: who I am. You're still shouting sharp, You're still my

1399
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 1: little brother, and you're gonna be okay. She's a she's

1400
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 1: that calming voice because a lot of time I like, hey,

1401
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 1: I want to I want to bury it as you

1402
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 1: know what say, Shanna, what do you get out of that?

1403
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 1: What do you get out of that?

1404
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 2: Right? I mean? My sister. Look, look, let me tell

1405
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 2: you what my sister did. I was in a relationship.

1406
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

1407
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 1: Can we get the name is Simon, We're gonna get.

1408
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 1: Let me tell you what my sister did. My sister

1409
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 1: really because like if you call my sister, if you automatically.

1410
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 1: I would think my sister would take up for me.

1411
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 1: When my sister did.

1412
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 3: When you're wrong, you're wrong. Now she got a hold

1413
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 3: you accountable.

1414
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 2: My sister say you should leave it?

1415
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

1416
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 1: Chause he ain't doing right. So why you're gonna stay?

1417
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 1: Why are you wanna stay in a situation which you're unhappy?

1418
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 1: You know he makes you unhappy. You're not happy, but

1419
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna stay.

1420
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 2: Why leave?

1421
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 3: And if it's if it's meant to be, y'all be together,

1422
01:06:58,480 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 3: you come back like a boomerang.

1423
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 2: Man, I live it. What the hell you done done?

1424
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 2: What you think? What you think the girl did? Left?

1425
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 2: What left? You?

1426
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 3: Serious? Man? It's that's too nice in the rook and

1427
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 3: then told me somebody left you. Now I don't. I

1428
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 3: don't like that.

1429
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 1: Joe, Oh Joe, It's okay. It's not the end of

1430
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 1: the world. Oh Yoe, damn, oh Joe, CBS, CBS, let

1431
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 1: me go. I went to Undersfeuter got bigger under Let

1432
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 1: me go.

1433
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 2: Now look at it. Look at the subs. I got

1434
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 2: more subs than undisputed you. Look at that.

1435
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 1: Look at the talent they got over there, I got,

1436
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 1: I got, we got a new podcast. And we got

1437
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 1: more subs than everybody that got over there combined. So

1438
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 1: I'm okay, I'm gonna be okay. I even me, I'm

1439
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 1: always gonna better on black.

1440
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:06,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So I don't. I don't.

1441
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 1: I don't get you know, when when something happened, I

1442
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 1: remember I wanted a situation and my agent said, they

1443
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Next contract,

1444
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 1: somebody else will pay for what you lost.

1445
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 2: I like that.

1446
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 3: I don't.

1447
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 2: I don't.

1448
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 1: I don't get upset. Man, It's not the end of

1449
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:30,680
Speaker 1: the world. D strong, I'm strong. Hey, I bought a

1450
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 1: sixty eight. I came from good stock, not woodstock.

1451
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

1452
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 2: You would have understand where I came from and how

1453
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:38,560
Speaker 2: I came to be.

1454
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 3: Damn. I don't like that they don't like you're a

1455
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 3: good dude, man, because I'm like like that. That that

1456
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 3: that's that's that stung me a little bit.

1457
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: Man.

1458
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 3: That's that's too shoo. It's two times somebody, Oh they

1459
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 3: up and left, and oh that.

1460
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 2: The first that is the first time. That is the

1461
01:08:58,600 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 2: first time. That's not the second time.

1462
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: I was dating. I was dating the female and we

1463
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 1: were living together, and when I came home.

1464
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 2: She was gone.

1465
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 3: Oh hell, he like, that's the type of ship you

1466
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:15,679
Speaker 3: see in movies.

1467
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 2: Man, Well, hell I was. I guess I was living

1468
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 2: a movie.

1469
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 1: Then, hey, oh head, oh Joe, when I tell you

1470
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 1: you're looking listen, when I tell people I could write

1471
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:28,719
Speaker 1: a book, y'all think I'm lying.

1472
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 2: Y'all think I'm lying.

1473
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 3: You came home, You came home like like on some

1474
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 3: gone Girl ship, like the movie Gone Girl.

1475
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 1: She was gone, gone big gie, big old biggie Biggie

1476
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 1: gone bye by Verdi.

1477
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 3: And that's slightly disrespectful because if you, if you love me,

1478
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:54,639
Speaker 3: if we did that was the case.

1479
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:55,679
Speaker 2: I didn't love it anymore.

1480
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, any anymore? Will you tell me that you if you,

1481
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 3: if you, if you've checked out mentally and you still

1482
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:04,640
Speaker 3: here physically and you're not feeling the situation, where in

1483
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 3: I need you to communicate? Isn't that what women always

1484
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:10,720
Speaker 3: talk about? Women are big on communication? Where is the communication?

1485
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 3: Why wait until you leave on some sucker shit and

1486
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 3: then pack your shit and leave in when I ain't

1487
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:23,679
Speaker 3: here and I face face the wolf, come on nine,

1488
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 3: I mean, oh.

1489
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: Yo, everybody can't handle situations like I don't know how

1490
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 1: you have those situations. But I can sit down, I

1491
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 1: can have a conversation. You're not happy, you want to

1492
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 1: move on, I'm not happy.

1493
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 2: I want to move on.

1494
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 1: I can have that kind of conversation, right, right, right.

1495
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:43,640
Speaker 1: Everybody can't have that conversation. Everybody's not built like you

1496
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:47,640
Speaker 1: or that like I can't speak for you, but to

1497
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 1: handle it.

1498
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 2: Let me.

1499
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 3: Let me tell you something, Let me tell you how

1500
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 3: I feel. Me and you're on the same page. I

1501
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 3: was born in seven eight, non I was born in

1502
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 3: seven eight. But one thing about it is I'll give

1503
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 3: my all and do all I can.

1504
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 2: Now.

1505
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 3: If you choose to lose, I never see it as

1506
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 3: a loss. I see it as one less expense. That's it, right,

1507
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 3: I'm doing everything. So now that's somebody else's responsibility. If

1508
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 3: they want to pick up where I left off and

1509
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 3: do more, so be it be good luck for sure

1510
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 3: being in good luck. But I always I always see

1511
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 3: someone actually leaving me or shit, that's better for me.

1512
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 3: I just think about how much I can say from

1513
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 3: this point on.

1514
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't. I don't.

1515
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,639
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't get upset, I don't fuss and fight.

1516
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,640
Speaker 1: I want things a certain way. I like people that

1517
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 1: after you've been with me for a while, you kind

1518
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:41,719
Speaker 1: of understand my manner hythms, you know what. I okay, Challna,

1519
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,599
Speaker 1: don't really want to talk. Let him be right right,

1520
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 1: you don't won't want something like this or shalln't want

1521
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 1: something like that. Let me have this ready for me.

1522
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 1: I want people to like study me and have without

1523
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 1: me having to tell you right, no, no, no no.

1524
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 1: I think the best relationships are you've been with someone

1525
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 1: long enough understand Hey, you.

1526
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 3: Know it's funny. I like that you just said that.

1527
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 3: Like I've been moreal like so long. Now we're starting

1528
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 3: to look like I can start a sentence. I can

1529
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 3: start it. I can started, I can start a sentence,

1530
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 3: and before I even finish what I'm saying, she finished

1531
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 3: the damn sentence. I'm like, but can I? And it

1532
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:19,640
Speaker 3: kind of irked me a little bit, like can I

1533
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 3: get my thoughts out? I know?

1534
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 2: You know, because.

1535
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:25,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna creat your habit routine, you don't change. My

1536
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 3: routine doesn't change. And the things that I say based

1537
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 3: on the situation, it never changes as well. So I

1538
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 3: start saying something and she had finished it whatever it was.

1539
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know all right, I know,

1540
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 3: you know, just let me get what I want to

1541
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 3: say out. Yeah, I would, though, let me let me

1542
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:43,640
Speaker 3: say it, let me finish. So it basically it's like you.

1543
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:46,560
Speaker 3: It sounds like you irritated because you already know what

1544
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 3: I'm getting ready to say.

1545
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 2: You don't want me to say it.

1546
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, small, a little small, little discrepancy we be having.

1547
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 3: You know that that that starts the argument.

1548
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's going to happen, O Joe. And you know,

1549
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 1: I think the thing for me distance it's hard because

1550
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:08,719
Speaker 1: you know, wanting to talk every day.

1551
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 2: All the time.

1552
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 3: Physical touch is important. I don't see how people do

1553
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 3: long distance. I don't see how people do do long

1554
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 3: You know, when you're younger, I understand when you're younger,

1555
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 3: you really know no better. You know you're in love,

1556
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 3: you know, and that's puppy love, like my grandma used

1557
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 3: to call it. Boy, it ain't nothing but puppul love.

1558
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:25,760
Speaker 3: You ain't gonna know her in three years. I ain't

1559
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 3: believe her, I said, my grandma and my grandma. Boy,

1560
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 3: she's gonna be here forever. Boy, you in eight grade,

1561
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 3: beg you God, damn, I'll never forget she motherfucker left

1562
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 3: me forgot Damn Willis man, Oh look, we love we all?

1563
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 1: Would we all have been through that? She don't have

1564
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 1: played them song, Lenny Williams, Girl, you know I love

1565
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 1: you and send for me Atlantic Star. I'm just a

1566
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 1: telephone call away. I may we all played uh that

1567
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 1: line of Richie song yellow, but.

1568
01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:00,640
Speaker 3: You're bringing back I'm almost teared up back that that

1569
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 3: makes me emotional. Why I remember them days? Boy, listen

1570
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 3: to that anyway? You know, you not hurt. You got

1571
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 3: to be to watch TV. So TV went off because.

1572
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 2: TV used to go off.

1573
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,640
Speaker 1: See TV that wasn't always twenty four hours a day,

1574
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 1: Like at midnight, the TV would go black. There was

1575
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 1: nothing else on. I know a lot of people out

1576
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,679
Speaker 1: there that's watching this don't remember those days. But TV

1577
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 1: used to go off at midnight it would go black.

1578
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you don't hurt.

1579
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 3: That's that hurt.

1580
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 2: Boy. You know there wasn't a cartoon network. Oho, we had.

1581
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 2: We had a TV that had three channels on off

1582
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 2: And don't f with me. Oh you know what I'm saying,

1583
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 2: o Jo. We could barely see what was going on anyway.

1584
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but you know, and I think that's the

1585
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 1: thing is that you understand, like, you know, look, as

1586
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 1: you grow, Ojo, your partner needs.

1587
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:49,640
Speaker 2: To grow with you.

1588
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, And sometimes what happened Oho, as I started to grow,

1589
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 1: they weren't growing. And then all of a sudden I

1590
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 1: became you know, I'll cause here's the thing on Joe

1591
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 1: I'm with Somebody was like, hey, hey, you know, most

1592
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 1: people gonna recognize wellam, They're gonna say, but I would

1593
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:09,680
Speaker 1: always say, this is my partner. This is such a

1594
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 1: soch blah blah blah. But here's the kicker. When she

1595
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:19,879
Speaker 1: wasn't with me right, didn't get no acknowledgement. So basically

1596
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 1: what she was, what she had become, was she was like,

1597
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 1: you're drowning me out.

1598
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 2: I can't be who I am, right right right? I

1599
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 2: like that.

1600
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 3: I think, you know, I think I'm kind of fortunate.

1601
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 3: It's kind of the opposite. It's kind of the opposite

1602
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 3: for me, a little bit, like I'm still who I am.

1603
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 3: But this young this young lady obviously really has her

1604
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 3: own identity. People, you know that she has her own

1605
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 3: identity to what it's gotten to the point where, oh

1606
01:15:56,040 --> 01:16:00,839
Speaker 3: it ain't that's Chad Johnson, Oh that's the dude. Sharill

1607
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 3: go with. But that's the dude, Sharilla. Excuse me, honey,

1608
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 3: Well I was out there catching them touchdowns. That was celebrating.

1609
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 1: What you mean, that Sharp's girlfriend. So that's how that's

1610
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 1: how people would refer to her. It wasn't her name.

1611
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 1: It was like, oh, this is this is a Shannon

1612
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:22,600
Speaker 1: Sharp's girlfriend. This is Shannon sharp significant other, right, And

1613
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 1: she's like, that's not my name.

1614
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:30,600
Speaker 3: That's crazy, man. But I'm like, I'm still thinking about that.

1615
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:34,400
Speaker 3: That that that that really bothers me. Like you going

1616
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 3: to work and you're going to practice and you coming

1617
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 3: back home from practice after hard days of work, and

1618
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 3: she gone, no, this was I was. I was.

1619
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 1: I was in Denver, she was she was in Atlanta.

1620
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 1: So I came home after the season. Oh oh no, no,

1621
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:53,719
Speaker 1: after the season.

1622
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 2: She wasn't in my house with be at Denver.

1623
01:16:57,160 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, But damn man,

1624
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 3: I mean.

1625
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 1: I mean, oh Joe, I looked at it like this,

1626
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 1: I didn't have to play pay for a movie. Hell,

1627
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:07,760
Speaker 1: if I had to move, I had to pay for

1628
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 1: the body of the movie. Ass about of them.

1629
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm with you when you're right and that's that's

1630
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 3: that's how I look at it. When when those situations

1631
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 3: fall apart, I remember the memories, I remember the good times.

1632
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 3: I focus on the good times. But then all in all,

1633
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 3: I think about what hell damn, I ain't got to

1634
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 3: pay for this no more, I ain't got to pay that. Yeah,

1635
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 3: and now it's somebody else's responsibility. Yeah, then I feel

1636
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 3: better and I started smiling. Yeah, damn, that's crazy. Brou Hey,

1637
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, that's some ship out of excuse. I'm

1638
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 3: sorry for cursing that old five dollars. That's something out

1639
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:50,719
Speaker 3: of a movie. Man, that's something out of a movie.

1640
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 2: Bro.

1641
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the only thing I was mad about, oh Joe,

1642
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 1: she had cooks fans giving dinner and left all the

1643
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 1: pots about refrigerators.

1644
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 3: You mean she left, she and clean up before she left. No,

1645
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 3: oh yeah, but yeah. See I'm glad.

1646
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 2: I'm glad.

1647
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:09,719
Speaker 3: I'm glad that they hinted she worked.

1648
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 2: Wonder one h