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<v Speaker 1>Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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<v Speaker 1>where we discussed the top political headlines with some of

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<v Speaker 1>today's best minds, and Scott Bessen says he's felt this

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<v Speaker 1>pain from China because he's quote actually a soybean farmer

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<v Speaker 1>and a one hundred millionaire, a multi hundred millionaire, a

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred millionaire. We have such a great show for

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<v Speaker 1>you today. The Lincoln Project's owner Rick Wilson joins us

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<v Speaker 1>to discuss Trump getting an illegal one hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 1>million dollar donation from one of his creepiest donors. Then

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk to the d LCC's Heather Williams about how

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<v Speaker 1>Dems win.

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<v Speaker 2>But first the news, So, Molly, Scott Bessen went on

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<v Speaker 2>the Sunday shows, and I have to say there's a

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<v Speaker 2>very few appearances that generated more headlights because he said

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<v Speaker 2>more ridiculous things that most people do at these But

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things he says is that the US

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<v Speaker 2>will not lose money on the Argent bailout.

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<v Speaker 3>So I guess we're all going to be eating our

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<v Speaker 3>Shetinian steak.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, one of my favorite things about Scott Essen

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<v Speaker 1>is not his woodenness on television and it's not him

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<v Speaker 1>saying ridiculous dishonest things on television. No, no, those are

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite things about seeing them on television. My man,

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<v Speaker 1>the US will not lose money on its massive bailout

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<v Speaker 1>of Argentina because history is no guide for what happens

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<v Speaker 1>in the world, he continued, despite the fact that the currency,

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<v Speaker 1>like the dollar, is just going down the tubes. They've

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<v Speaker 1>gone all in on President Malay. You know why tell me,

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<v Speaker 1>because they want him to win. In order to rescue him,

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<v Speaker 1>they have pledged twenty billion dollar currency slop with the

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<v Speaker 1>Argentine Central Bank, the largest American bailout of another country

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<v Speaker 1>since we bailed out Mexico in nineteen ninety five. Besson

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<v Speaker 1>has also organized another twenty billion in aid from the

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<v Speaker 1>private sector. By the way, these people are very into

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<v Speaker 1>promising big money from the private sector. Usually that doesn't happen,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll see. But I remember many a private sector

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<v Speaker 1>deals that never came to fruition. You and I know

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<v Speaker 1>this to be true. Donald Trump is always saying that

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to get ten gazillion dollars from this or that.

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<v Speaker 3>You're telling me President deals doesn't live up to his brand.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, by the way. I just am curious, like,

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<v Speaker 1>did we get those ninety trade deals? Because it's been

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<v Speaker 1>more than ninety days, and I think it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Been another ninety days since those ninety days elapsed.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, it's ninety million days, That's.

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<v Speaker 3>What every day this administration feels.

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<v Speaker 1>Like there iny million years.

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<v Speaker 2>So Senator Lindsey Graham, a man that for as long

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<v Speaker 2>as he's been a senator, has been downright giddy. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not even the word I want to use for war

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<v Speaker 2>because he's so enthusiastic to it you would think that

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<v Speaker 2>you wanted to marry it. So he is very, very

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<v Speaker 2>excited to announce that Trump's were on Narco Terris is

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<v Speaker 2>going to expand the lads strike, which when it's not

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<v Speaker 2>in international waters, it kind of sounds like war with

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<v Speaker 2>another country, am I right?

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<v Speaker 3>Molly?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Congress is supposed to approve wars. Now, I

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<v Speaker 1>know I'm lame saying that I think that Congress should

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<v Speaker 1>get approval for wars, because that is the way it's

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to work. Congress should give approval. But for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 1>that is not what we're doing here, where just Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is just going to do whatever Trump wants. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know this happens to work for Trump because Mike Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>basically is at this point donald Trump's Valey and serves

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<v Speaker 1>at the pleasure of Donald Trump. As Donald Trump has

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<v Speaker 1>said before, by the way, this is just like this

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<v Speaker 1>narco terrorist thing is such fucking bullshit, because like, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no this is all completely crazy. Right, Like, we blew

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<v Speaker 1>up a bunch of fishing boats. Maybe some had drugs,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe some didn't. Most of them weren't heading towards the

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<v Speaker 1>United States. They were small boats. Nobody really knows, except

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<v Speaker 1>we know that the few survivors were they were so

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<v Speaker 1>guilty they were repatriated to their home countries without a trial,

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty good sign that they were probably able to testify.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to say that clearly what's happening here.

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<v Speaker 3>Is fucked Yeah. Sounds very very bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And also the pushback is coming from one Rand Paul.

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<v Speaker 1>Ran Paul Republican says he's been invited to no briefings,

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<v Speaker 1>adding a briefing is not enough to overcome the Constitution.

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<v Speaker 1>We've had no evidence presented, So at this point I

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<v Speaker 1>would call these extrajudicial killings. Good for Rand Paul from

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky for saying what we all know to be true,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the United States government cannot just kill people

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<v Speaker 1>and then make up a reason for it later one.

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<v Speaker 3>Hundred percent Savali. As we know, they're having.

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<v Speaker 2>To really dig through the bottom of the bear of

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<v Speaker 2>people who are willing to do this job as an

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<v Speaker 2>ICE agent since it's a not good job. And you'll

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<v Speaker 2>be shocked to hear they're not fully vetting people about

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<v Speaker 2>whether they have criminal records or not.

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<v Speaker 1>I am just shocked. I am so shocked because I

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<v Speaker 1>was sure this ICE crew would be really thought, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that people would be interviewed and trained and explained how

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<v Speaker 1>rights work and do process and Nope, just kidding. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>pull back for a minute and realize that deportation Barbie Ice,

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<v Speaker 1>Barbie Christy Nome spells it with an eye because that's

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<v Speaker 1>how she thought it was spelled, is just blowing billions

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<v Speaker 1>of taxpayer dollars. That is pretty much the good news

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<v Speaker 1>in a weird way. And again, you should look at

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<v Speaker 1>these videos out of Chicago. We should look at these

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<v Speaker 1>videos out of Chicago because Chicago is what this administration

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<v Speaker 1>wants for the rest of us. And they are smoke bombing,

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<v Speaker 1>they are going into residential neighborhoods. They are passing people working.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what they're not doing anything helpful. Here's what they're

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<v Speaker 1>not doing fighting crime. Here's what they are doing. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a video of a couple, like a waspy couple. The

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<v Speaker 1>husband is in pajama pants and bare feet and they're

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<v Speaker 1>screaming at the ICE agents to get out of their neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what is coming to all of us. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what our tax dollars are paying for. This is

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<v Speaker 1>what Christy Nome, who has two private jets for one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and seventy five million dollars, and her right hand

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<v Speaker 1>hory Lewandowski, are doing to this country.

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<v Speaker 2>So now, because the Democrats are going to make a

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<v Speaker 2>database where you can upload ICE's NonStop abuses of power,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're trying to put a little fear into these

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<v Speaker 2>officers to behave a little better. The Democrats are making

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<v Speaker 2>a tracker for this, and Christy Nome is threatening them

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<v Speaker 2>because she thinks they should be able to act with

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<v Speaker 2>full impunity and ignorance of the law, which is unprecedented

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<v Speaker 2>in America.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, look, they are going to push and

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<v Speaker 1>they are going to do illegal stuff, and they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to do bad stuff, and the only way it stops

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<v Speaker 1>is if people say this is enough. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>a great example Robert Garcia doing God's work. We've established

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<v Speaker 1>in a misconduct tracker to document abuse and civil rights

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<v Speaker 1>violations by this administration, including where Ice has detained US

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<v Speaker 1>citizens and violated federal law. By the way, that is

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<v Speaker 1>what we should be doing. That is what all of

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<v Speaker 1>us should be doing. I mean, that's how all of

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<v Speaker 1>this is supposed to work. So correct. Good for again,

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<v Speaker 1>Representative Garcia. If life ever gets back to normal, I

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<v Speaker 1>hope that he will someday be in leadership. Rick Wilson

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<v Speaker 1>is the founder of the Lincoln Project and the host

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<v Speaker 1>of the Enemy's List. Rick Wilson, Well, I junk fast.

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<v Speaker 4>How are you on this fine day in our so

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<v Speaker 4>called country.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just looking for a mysterious donor to donate one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and thirty million dollars to pay one point three million. True.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a math genius.

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<v Speaker 4>You know. I kind of do no math. And I

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<v Speaker 4>will tell you that math is not, as the kids

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<v Speaker 4>like to say, mathing in this case.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So we're talking about Timothy Mallan volunteering to donate

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and thirty million dollars, which is a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of money to us because we're poor, But to people

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<v Speaker 1>like this, you know, a childless billionaire, I think it's jumping.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, molly, let me, let me say this. He

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<v Speaker 4>is donating this money because Donald Trump does not want

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<v Speaker 4>Jeffrey Epstein files to be voted on in Congress. That's

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<v Speaker 4>why he's voting giving Trump this money. And he's doing

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<v Speaker 4>it with like the weirdest conditions and stipulations like you

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<v Speaker 4>must find Amelia air Arts. What fuck? And you know what,

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<v Speaker 4>It's funny because like a few weeks ago, I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>last Trump tweeting about a millionaire hurt? What is going

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<v Speaker 4>on here?

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<v Speaker 3>What?

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<v Speaker 4>What could be driving this? And you and I tend

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<v Speaker 4>to like no shit, And I'm just like I could

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<v Speaker 4>not figure it out. I was like, why is he

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<v Speaker 4>obsessed with Amelia Earhart? What is going on? And now

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<v Speaker 4>we know Timmothy Mellen wants to find Amelia air Art.

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<v Speaker 1>So if they paid the troops out of this money,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be one hundred dollars a troop pretty much period.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's one hundred dollars that is, in case you're wondering,

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<v Speaker 1>not enough money.

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<v Speaker 4>No case you're wondering that is that is.

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<v Speaker 1>Not enough money. Good but good headline for Trump. Go

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<v Speaker 1>the headline for Timothy Mellen. For people who don't read headlines,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to go to headlines for a minute

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<v Speaker 1>because I want to talk about this gubernatorial race in

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<v Speaker 1>New Jersey. Yeah, it's a good headline for Trump. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a good headline for Timothy Mallen. For people who are

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<v Speaker 1>not paying attention, they think, oh, Timothy Mellen, billionaire. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you can't actually pay, if it won't actually

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<v Speaker 1>pay the troops, then what what Hey, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know how we could pay the trips. You know, we

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<v Speaker 4>could pay the troops tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me more.

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<v Speaker 4>Open the government, stop being stop stop covering up the

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<v Speaker 4>Jeffrey Epstein files, and open the government. This is this

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<v Speaker 4>is something like like my tolerance for this because you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure if you know this, but basically, people

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<v Speaker 4>in the United States military essentially do not make money. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>it is not a place that people go to just

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<v Speaker 4>like racking Kwan.

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<v Speaker 5>Just so like.

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<v Speaker 1>People work in the federal government could be making more

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<v Speaker 1>in the private sector.

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<v Speaker 4>Often they do it because they could be.

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<v Speaker 1>They care about the country, which is why Russ Vaught

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<v Speaker 1>wants to put them in trauma.

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<v Speaker 4>Quote in trauma in trauma. Yes, And look, Russ Vaught

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<v Speaker 4>is having the time. This is the best week of

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<v Speaker 4>restaurants that life. He is. He is getting a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of the torture of these so called evil bureaucrats that

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<v Speaker 4>he wants to apply, right he is. He's really getting

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<v Speaker 4>his way with a lot of the damage he wants

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<v Speaker 4>to do to these people. And he wants to make

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<v Speaker 4>federal service so miserable that they quit.

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<v Speaker 1>Right or that they go.

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<v Speaker 4>And look, a number of them are going to or

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<v Speaker 4>already have. But you know, the the the tiny little

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<v Speaker 4>inty bitty problems we're having in the country, like air

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<v Speaker 4>traffic controllers aren't getting paid, and our military isn't getting paid,

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<v Speaker 4>and our veterans benefits aren't getting paid. But who's getting paid.

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<v Speaker 4>Christy Noms film crew from Ice is getting paid. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>they could solve this problem tomorrow. Mike Johnson could say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>we're back in session, we're passing the cr I'm swearing

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<v Speaker 4>to add Grijalva. I give up. But they don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to give up because Trump is telling people. As we

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<v Speaker 4>saw that coverage of this week from the I think

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<v Speaker 4>the Washington Post. Trump enjoys how much a survi little

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<v Speaker 4>shipbird Mike Johnson is. How much he makes Mike Johnson obey.

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<v Speaker 1>So there was a good piece in the New York

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<v Speaker 1>Times by one Annie Carney, who's been doing a really

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<v Speaker 1>good job comm yeah, covering what little converce is doing,

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<v Speaker 1>and she actually had this quote that Trump had said

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<v Speaker 1>basically that he was the Speaker of the House and

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<v Speaker 1>the president, which I think is absolutely right. And in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the reasons why they are not able to

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<v Speaker 1>make a deal right now is because Democrats don't because

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats don't want to make a deal with Mike Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>because they know Mike Johnson isn't he doesn't, he is

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<v Speaker 1>not the boss.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like running the entire government from it's like the House,

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<v Speaker 4>it's to the Senate, to the White House and everything

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<v Speaker 4>in between to the Supreme Court. There is no government

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<v Speaker 4>but Trump. You know, there is no data, only zuul.

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<v Speaker 4>This is Donald Trump. He runs all this. This is

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<v Speaker 4>all by his choice. And if Mike Johnson cared about

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<v Speaker 4>the House and cared about his members, and cared about

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<v Speaker 4>doing the duty that he has as an elected representative,

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<v Speaker 4>he would stop this bs, right, but.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't have the power. He serves at the pleasure

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<v Speaker 1>of Donald Trump. And the thing is, Donald Trump has,

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<v Speaker 1>for whatever reason, decided he doesn't care right now about

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<v Speaker 1>domestic except because he's working on getting a Nobel Peace Prize.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's doing that by going overseas building right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not for the Nobel Peace Prize. That's just for

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<v Speaker 1>the Nobel you know, just the fun of cleptocracy.

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<v Speaker 4>The arrogant, kleptocratic bullshit prize.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. But Donald Trump is overseas. He's going to Japan,

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<v Speaker 1>he was, He's going to South Korea. He's zipping around

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<v Speaker 1>the globe. Even though I think that when you have

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<v Speaker 1>tanks in Chicago, you may actually off be getting the

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<v Speaker 1>Nobel Peace Prize.

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<v Speaker 4>Discuss I'm gonna tell you from my understanding, tanks in

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<v Speaker 4>the streets of your country. I think pretty much anywhere

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<v Speaker 4>it might be a disqualifier for the Nobel I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just gonna say, I'm gonna I'm gonna take a

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<v Speaker 4>big leap here, Molly and just sort of sort of

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<v Speaker 4>sort of make a piece of enforced speculation that Donald

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<v Speaker 4>Trump's vibe set is not working for the Nobel Prize

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<v Speaker 4>Committee ever, and he's not going to get in this

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<v Speaker 4>year because it's already been issued. He's not gonna get

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<v Speaker 4>in this year because there is nothing he can do.

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<v Speaker 1>Except piss off India. Except piss off India.

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<v Speaker 4>Why not, you know, because he's pissed off everyone else

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<v Speaker 4>at this point. That is very much on brand for

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<v Speaker 4>Trump at the moment, is to piss off as many

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<v Speaker 4>as many humans as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>And this weekend we saw Donald Trump go basically to

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<v Speaker 1>again into trade war again with Canada because Canada had

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<v Speaker 1>this advertisement he didn't like, which was Ronald Reagan talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how he didn't believe in tariffs. Donald Trum got

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<v Speaker 1>very offended and said that it was fake news, despite

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that while it is a I it is

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<v Speaker 1>or no, it's not a.

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<v Speaker 4>It was all this was footage from address Reagan read

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<v Speaker 4>on the radio and nineteen eighty seven about trade wars. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>what has pissed off the magas is that they didn't

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<v Speaker 4>run one line that was in the speech and said

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes tariffs for a brief period of time can be

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<v Speaker 4>useful and as a negotiating tactic or something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>And this was not a speech like how much he

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<v Speaker 4>loved tariffs, a speech about how much he hated tariffs,

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<v Speaker 4>and what freak Trump and his people out was. There

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<v Speaker 4>is still a core reality inside the Republican Party. Even

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<v Speaker 4>in today's perverse imitation of the Republican Party, Ronald Reagan

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<v Speaker 4>is still more popular rapes and he does not like that.

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<v Speaker 4>And this whole thing, this whole thing has become a

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<v Speaker 4>kind of pissing contest about now the legacy of Reagan,

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<v Speaker 4>who was not a tariff guy. He was a free

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<v Speaker 4>trade guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Free trader. Yeah, all Republicans have been free traders until

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<v Speaker 1>right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, I mean talk, but I do know a

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<v Speaker 4>thing or two about this world.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, as we live in the bad place that is

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, Oh yes we do. Oh, yes we do.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about Donald Trump's poor coal link

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<v Speaker 1>for a minute, because I think this is my man

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<v Speaker 1>is underwater. Talk to us about those numbers. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you're looking up numbers right now.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm looking at but I can just tell you Donald

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<v Speaker 4>Trump's numbers are shitty and yet visible, terrible and yet

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<v Speaker 4>also painfully obviously declining into the health space. The biggest

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<v Speaker 4>number you should look at right now is the thing

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<v Speaker 4>that subsumes all the other things, and that is the

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<v Speaker 4>right track wrong track. And about seventy percent of Americans

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<v Speaker 4>say the country is on the wrong track.

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<v Speaker 5>Were united in everything is going to ship.

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<v Speaker 4>Two percent of Americans agree that the cause of that

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<v Speaker 4>wrong track is one Donald John Trump. This is a

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<v Speaker 4>bad place for him to be in. He is not

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<v Speaker 4>he is not a popular president. And I just this

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<v Speaker 4>is one thing that in Congress there's a belief, well,

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<v Speaker 4>I if we cross Trump, we're going to face all

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<v Speaker 4>these political consequences. You might, you might if you let

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<v Speaker 4>Trump be the sole creator of the national narrative. And

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<v Speaker 4>you are the ones in Congress as Republicans who are

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<v Speaker 4>going to take all that radiation and take all that damage.

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<v Speaker 4>Donald Trump gets certain exceptions because he was a celebrity

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<v Speaker 4>and all the other things We've talked about a million

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<v Speaker 4>times about who he is in the culture. Right that's gone. Now, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>that do not exist. Ain't that? Ain't this world anymore?

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<v Speaker 4>Because of that, these Republicans are going to take absolute

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<v Speaker 4>whippings from their voters because you know what, they are

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<v Speaker 4>not happy with Donald Trump's performance in office. They are

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<v Speaker 4>pissed at the economy. They think the country's off on

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<v Speaker 4>the wrong track. They think that the immigration stuff has

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<v Speaker 4>gone too far. They think that Harris are a terrible idea.

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<v Speaker 4>There's almost nothing he's doing right now that is popular

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<v Speaker 4>with the American people, and people have sort of like

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<v Speaker 4>kind of ignored that that really fundamental underpinning fact. He

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<v Speaker 4>is a bad president and people don't like him. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to put that in words that even the

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<v Speaker 4>MAGA listeners can understand. But he's a lot popular.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about what's happening in Iowa, Okay, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think that this is a really good example of Iowa

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<v Speaker 1>art for Obama twice. Yep, they voted for Trump, and

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<v Speaker 1>Trump has done some stuff that has put their their

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<v Speaker 1>GDP in a kilspin.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I actually tailspan Limbell the bad place, the bad

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<v Speaker 4>he has. He has fucked farmers in this country, in

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<v Speaker 4>rural communities like Iowa, in a way that if you

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<v Speaker 4>set out to do it, it would be hard to

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<v Speaker 4>imagine you could do a more a more damaging job

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<v Speaker 4>than what he's done. And so, you know, you see

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<v Speaker 4>in the farm belt the realization that we're not going

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<v Speaker 4>to sell anybody any soybeans this year. We're not going

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<v Speaker 4>to sell anybody any beef this year. The timber industry

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<v Speaker 4>is now freaking out that they're that they're slowing down.

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<v Speaker 4>It was timber issue was a big export industry in

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<v Speaker 4>this country. They're now like freaking out because other countries

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<v Speaker 4>are like, no, we'll pass, We'll we'll get something, we'll do,

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<v Speaker 4>we'll do, we'll work with somebody else.

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<v Speaker 1>This is from the New York Times. I was GDP

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<v Speaker 1>dropped by six point one percent, more than any state

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<v Speaker 1>aside from neighboring Nebraska.

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<v Speaker 4>You know how many people are on a snap in Iowa?

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<v Speaker 4>Eighteen percent? You know who? He doesn't get snap anymore

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<v Speaker 4>in Iowa? Everybody?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because you know why why don't people get snapped?

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<v Speaker 4>Because Donald Trump closed down the government to keep the

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<v Speaker 4>Epstein fires from coming out, and Russ Vaud is a sadist.

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<v Speaker 1>And they could have done snap. In fact, previous shutdowns

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<v Speaker 1>had done snacks snap, just like just like they carved

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<v Speaker 1>out the bunny for wick right women, infant and children

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<v Speaker 1>so that you didn't have forty percent of pregnant women

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<v Speaker 1>dying starvation.

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<v Speaker 4>These these these starving women in.

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<v Speaker 1>Small Yeah, one weeksa do you see?

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<v Speaker 4>That was a good one, You know, what they can

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<v Speaker 4>lift themselves up by their bootstraps, smalling little bootstraps. I

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<v Speaker 4>think I've had enough of accommodating these slackers.

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<v Speaker 1>Manufacturing, which drives seventeen percent of Iowa's economic output, has

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<v Speaker 1>been hit with higher production costs, in part because of guests.

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<v Speaker 4>It would it be terriffs, Why it would be tariffs?

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<v Speaker 4>Why the answer would be terriffs.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was told that the other people were going

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<v Speaker 1>to pay the tariffs.

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<v Speaker 4>I keep hearing about these other people paying the tariffs,

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<v Speaker 4>and yet somehow it still seems to keep being Americans

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<v Speaker 4>paying the tariffs.

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<v Speaker 1>It is bizarre. Now, I would like to say, these

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<v Speaker 1>people voted for Trump now are starving, but they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>give Trump just one more shot.

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<v Speaker 4>So look, I will say this, they are trust Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>There are still people who trust in Trump. There's still

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<v Speaker 4>people who believe in Donald Trump as the avatar of

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<v Speaker 4>all things, whatever you want, however you want to put it.

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<v Speaker 4>But that number is shrinking. The hardcore is now a smaller,

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<v Speaker 4>crazier edge, and the people who now understand the damage

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<v Speaker 4>he's done to them, that number is increasing, including in

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<v Speaker 4>these places where where you think, okay, it's rural Iowa

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<v Speaker 4>they're always going to love Trump. They're never going to

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<v Speaker 4>walk away from Trump. And what they'll do is many

0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:46.840
<v Speaker 4>of them will never walk away from Trump, but many

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<v Speaker 4>of them will say, you know what, I don't like

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<v Speaker 4>all this libtard blah blah blah, and quietly they're gonna say,

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<v Speaker 4>I can't vote for that. I can't vote for Republican X.

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<v Speaker 4>It is why you see even people like Ted who's

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<v Speaker 4>in a panic right now, there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>people in that Republican space who are looking at an

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<v Speaker 4>outcome for next year if they were not jerrymandered to the.

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<v Speaker 1>Hilt, and even if they are, because and again this

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<v Speaker 1>is not to say that jerrymandering is good. They're cheating

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<v Speaker 1>and it's very bad. But you can't make votes you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have. So if you jerrymander to an R plus

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<v Speaker 1>four from a D plus two.

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<v Speaker 4>And R plus four maybe was safe. Maybe in twenty

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<v Speaker 4>twenty six on R plus four is a tie ball game,

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<v Speaker 4>or on R plus six is a tie ball game. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>this is shaping into an election where where unless they

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<v Speaker 4>do something really extreme on the other side, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like troops in the streets, I think they know that

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<v Speaker 4>their chances of holding onto the house now are absolutely

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<v Speaker 4>you know, fading by the minute.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is why they're talking about doing troops in

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<v Speaker 1>the streets, and that is why it is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a moment where we're all going to have to

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<v Speaker 1>say this is not okay. Like from Susan Collins to

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<v Speaker 1>Ted to Ted Cruz to everyone, we know we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to be in the streets being like, look, we

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<v Speaker 1>have free and fair elections.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to move on to something else, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a question that has been going around. Steve Bannon sat

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<v Speaker 1>on television that Donald Trump is going to run again.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a thing people really like to say. The

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<v Speaker 1>Sea Pack, they had a third term project again, Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump pretty again a real danger. But I think that

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<v Speaker 1>we have to talk about one thing when we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this, which is how old is Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, let me put this way. I get how old

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<v Speaker 4>he'll be when he runs again, eighty eight if he does.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, at seventy nine, he was the oldest person to

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<v Speaker 1>ever be elected president. That is crul older than Joseph

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<v Speaker 1>Robinette Biden.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, also Gus. All right, first off, let's break Bannon

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<v Speaker 4>down into two boxes. One, Bannon is the king of

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<v Speaker 4>all bullshitter, and he's doing this to get on Trump's

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<v Speaker 4>good side and to and to keep himself in the

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<v Speaker 4>war room podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, My take is that it's better for Bannett Bannon

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<v Speaker 1>wants Trump to see him supporting him.

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<v Speaker 4>That is correct. But I will also say if Bannon

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<v Speaker 4>finds a pathway that he can both monetize for himself

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<v Speaker 4>his podcast as media companies, bright barred, et cetera, and

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<v Speaker 4>he finds a path where where he thinks he can

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<v Speaker 4>somehow get the a a thinly argued but potentially Supreme

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<v Speaker 4>Court friendly third term lawsuit to the Supreme Court, he

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<v Speaker 4>will try to do it. He's not a guy with

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of shame. He will put.

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<v Speaker 1>Things All things can be true, right, all things can

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<v Speaker 1>be true.

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<v Speaker 4>But, as I like to say, if Bannon does start

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<v Speaker 4>to try to execute on this, and I'm gonna I'm

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<v Speaker 4>gonna tell my my liberal friends this, you don't have

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<v Speaker 4>to fight him just in court. You have to fight

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<v Speaker 4>in on every fucking access possible. You have to bring

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<v Speaker 4>a level of pain to the Republicans and to the

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<v Speaker 4>White House that they have.

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<v Speaker 1>Previously, not a nonviolent pain, non violent pain, but sure.

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<v Speaker 5>No violent.

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<v Speaker 4>That's that's when that's when the Democrats in Congress justations.

0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:19.480
<v Speaker 4>That's when they say to the White House, we're cutting

0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:23.879
<v Speaker 4>the White House's budget, We're eliminating Russ Vought's salary. Exactly

0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 4>through every aspect of this where they have to exercise

0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:30.320
<v Speaker 4>power in a way that Democrats often hesitate to exercise it.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure, I do want to say, Jake Tapper, where

0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:41.200
<v Speaker 1>is your book on Donald Trump's health? Because those cankles.

0:25:41.880 --> 0:25:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I was told.

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<v Speaker 4>Presidential health and mental fitness was the central issue of

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<v Speaker 4>our time. I would like to see more reporting on that,

0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:56.280
<v Speaker 4>from more reporters on that. And then's just saying it,

0:25:56.359 --> 0:25:58.840
<v Speaker 4>you know, and not like Biden watched did he stumble

0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:02.560
<v Speaker 4>up a staircase today? As opposed to Trump, who goes

0:26:02.600 --> 0:26:07.240
<v Speaker 4>into every every cabinet meeting, every presser, every press availability,

0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:12.280
<v Speaker 4>on the plane, it's like herbal purple, Shamalalam ding dong,

0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:14.840
<v Speaker 4>and he's just saying shit and you don't know what

0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:15.960
<v Speaker 4>the fuck is happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Rick Wilson, Yes, ma'am, will you come back?

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<v Speaker 4>Of course I will. You know me.

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<v Speaker 1>Heather Williams is the president of the Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Fast Politics. Heather, thank you.

0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:30.840
<v Speaker 5>I'm excited to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>So explain to us what you do, because I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's important data point.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Sure, So.

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<v Speaker 5>The Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee is the national campaign arm

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:44.640
<v Speaker 5>for state legislatures. We look across all the legislative races

0:26:44.720 --> 0:26:47.200
<v Speaker 5>and find the opportunities for Democrats to build power in

0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:47.679
<v Speaker 5>the states.

0:26:48.080 --> 0:26:51.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we have a moment when Republicans are using the

0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:55.600
<v Speaker 1>states as an atm to get whatever they want. And

0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:59.560
<v Speaker 1>I would argue that the worst offender is Governor Greg

0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:02.919
<v Speaker 1>Abbott and ken Baxton, but there are certainly other states

0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:05.840
<v Speaker 1>where we've seen Republicans do just crazy shit at the

0:27:05.960 --> 0:27:08.840
<v Speaker 1>state level. And you could say, maybe it's started with Alec,

0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:11.800
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's started with you know, any number of things.

0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:16.479
<v Speaker 1>So there's so much anxiety about elections, and with good reason.

0:27:16.680 --> 0:27:18.679
<v Speaker 1>So at first, I want you to talk about ways

0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:21.880
<v Speaker 1>in which Democrats at the state level can protect our elections,

0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:25.040
<v Speaker 1>because elections are supposed to be administered at the state level.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think, just grabbing on for just a second

0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:32.040
<v Speaker 5>onto your note about Republicans seizing power here in the States,

0:27:32.240 --> 0:27:34.040
<v Speaker 5>you know, this has been a build for them. They

0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:37.440
<v Speaker 5>really came into this in twenty ten with Project Red Map,

0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 5>and we've been finding our way back since to get

0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 5>to your point on sort of election security, if you will,

0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 5>since Trump has been around. You know, we've won ten

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:51.960
<v Speaker 5>legislative majorities and that matters because we have more power

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:54.679
<v Speaker 5>in the states now. As you know, states are where

0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:57.679
<v Speaker 5>we determine our election laws. It's where we determine our

0:27:57.760 --> 0:28:00.320
<v Speaker 5>voting laws. These folks are on the front line line

0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:04.280
<v Speaker 5>and in so many of the battlegrounds where you know

0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:06.720
<v Speaker 5>sort of all of this is ground zero. We have,

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:09.679
<v Speaker 5>you know, some lever of power in the states, and

0:28:10.280 --> 0:28:11.880
<v Speaker 5>you know that is what is going to carry us

0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:17.280
<v Speaker 5>through these next moments as we navigate this Trump approach

0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:18.119
<v Speaker 5>to elections.

0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:20.000
<v Speaker 4>So that is.

0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:22.560
<v Speaker 1>Good to hear. So tell me what that looks like.

0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:26.879
<v Speaker 1>And also, I do think Trump wants people to be

0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:30.400
<v Speaker 1>more scared than they should be. So explain to us

0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:30.920
<v Speaker 1>all of this.

0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, listen, Like, fundamentally, Republicans need to turn

0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:38.360
<v Speaker 5>out their voters and they need every mechanism to do so.

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:38.760
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 5>They need voters to participate in our democracy through early

0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 5>vote opportunities, whether that's by mail or in person. We

0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:49.920
<v Speaker 5>are seeing this in Virginia. They need folks to turn out,

0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 5>and they need all those tools in their toolkits. So

0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:57.240
<v Speaker 5>the national narrative that the president is spinning and what's

0:28:57.240 --> 0:29:00.600
<v Speaker 5>happening on the ground as we work through all of

0:29:00.640 --> 0:29:03.200
<v Speaker 5>these election moments just look different.

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:03.600
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:06.960
<v Speaker 5>We've been winning elections already in the States all year long,

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:10.360
<v Speaker 5>and they have really been a democratic process, right, we

0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:14.440
<v Speaker 5>flip free Trump districts. They have been safe, secure, honest elections,

0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 5>even when Democrats have won in places that they shouldn't have.

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 5>So I think we must imagine a future where we

0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:24.840
<v Speaker 5>think about all the things that could happen, but we

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:27.719
<v Speaker 5>must also be resolved in what is happening so that

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:30.320
<v Speaker 5>we continue to focus on the thing that matters most,

0:29:30.360 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 5>which is winning these elections and putting Democrats in more

0:29:33.240 --> 0:29:35.600
<v Speaker 5>power so that we can find our way through this mess.

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:38.920
<v Speaker 1>That's right, So talk us through what that looks like.

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 1>I want you to talk us through the different states

0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:46.720
<v Speaker 1>where Democrats have power and how Democrats are using that legislatively.

0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:50.680
<v Speaker 5>Democrats have power over roughly like fifty percent of the

0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:53.680
<v Speaker 5>country in their state capitals. This is not obviously a

0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:57.000
<v Speaker 5>small number of people. You know, the policies that are

0:29:57.080 --> 0:30:00.760
<v Speaker 5>being moved forward in these states matters so much. It's

0:30:00.760 --> 0:30:03.120
<v Speaker 5>always matter, but it matters now because this is where

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 5>Democrats have power. We sit in the minority federally, we

0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:09.120
<v Speaker 5>don't have the presidency. This is where we are getting

0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:14.840
<v Speaker 5>things done. And we see both these legislatures, Democrats who

0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:19.240
<v Speaker 5>are leading these legislatures move on issues of affordability and

0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:22.520
<v Speaker 5>costs and sort of those kitchen table issues that voters

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:25.720
<v Speaker 5>have been asking elected officials to pay attention to, while

0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:29.520
<v Speaker 5>also making sure that you know, people can get access

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 5>to healthcare and that they're able to tap into the

0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 5>benefits and or services that they may need, and they're

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:41.160
<v Speaker 5>going to continue to approach it, you know, both ways,

0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:44.760
<v Speaker 5>both finding a path forward for a country and in

0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:48.920
<v Speaker 5>their community that certainly deserves it, while also filling in

0:30:49.040 --> 0:30:53.280
<v Speaker 5>the deep polls that this administration has placed on communities

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:54.080
<v Speaker 5>across the country.

0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Right give us a state where this is happening.

0:30:57.360 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 5>New Mexico is a really incredible example of moving forward

0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:07.840
<v Speaker 5>in like these times. They've they just passed some legislation

0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:10.520
<v Speaker 5>that helps ensure that New Mexicans can get health care

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:15.280
<v Speaker 5>coverage as the ACA and Medicaid gets pulled back. It's smart,

0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:18.840
<v Speaker 5>but it's also very responsive to their community. You know,

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 5>we continue to see efforts to move forward policy and

0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 5>education that ensures that all of our kids can be educated,

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 5>regardless of their learning style or learning ability. It's really

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 5>remarkable how contrasting it is between Republican state and a

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 5>state with democratic leadership delivering on the simplest things like

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 5>a budget on time, you know, the things that is

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:46.440
<v Speaker 5>expected from one's state house. We're really seeing, you know,

0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:49.280
<v Speaker 5>Democrats lead the way, and we're going to continue to

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:49.680
<v Speaker 5>see them.

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Virginia's a state that has a big off your election.

0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:58.280
<v Speaker 1>Just had a debate last night. The Democrat is pulling

0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:02.320
<v Speaker 1>to win. The Republicans have fired all the people work

0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 1>in the state, so that may help the Democrat, I

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:08.720
<v Speaker 1>don't know, but talk us through, like the House of

0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Delegates is all up. One year, we interviewed every single

0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:15.360
<v Speaker 1>person running for the House of Delegates, not every single one,

0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:17.000
<v Speaker 1>but many of the people running for the House of

0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:21.320
<v Speaker 1>Delegates and the state Senate, right and it was a

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:25.920
<v Speaker 1>fascinating adventure. Talk us through how the state legislature works

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:27.880
<v Speaker 1>in Virginia, because that's up now.

0:32:28.120 --> 0:32:30.240
<v Speaker 5>It is it is. The House of Delegates is up

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:34.240
<v Speaker 5>on November's ballot. There are currently fifty one Democrats, so

0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 5>we have a majority by one seat. The state Senate

0:32:36.840 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 5>is not up for election this year, so it's just

0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:42.080
<v Speaker 5>the House of Delegates. The amazing thing that is happening

0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 5>in Virginia is these candidates are of their community. They're

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:50.120
<v Speaker 5>super representative. They are not career politicians. They are not

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:54.120
<v Speaker 5>you know, folks that come with sort of that perspective.

0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:58.479
<v Speaker 5>They're there to serve their community and to do that

0:32:58.600 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 5>in the best way possible. So we start with really

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:05.000
<v Speaker 5>excellent candidates in every district across the state, and I

0:33:05.040 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 5>think a resolve that the work here is to meet

0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 5>voters on the issues that they actually care about, which

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:14.360
<v Speaker 5>are these core kitchen table issues.

0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:14.720
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 5>Virginia has an enormous federal workforce, it has deep federal

0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 5>economic impact, but it's also a state that has medicated

0:33:23.600 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 5>expansion and rural hospitals and a port and military base,

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:33.480
<v Speaker 5>and veterans hospitals, and the lack of care that Republicans

0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:36.760
<v Speaker 5>have for any of those communities, any of those issues.

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:40.360
<v Speaker 5>It's showing up every day. And what we see is

0:33:40.680 --> 0:33:44.080
<v Speaker 5>the candidates are on the doors talking to voters every

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:47.560
<v Speaker 5>single day. They're putting their efforts into having those conversations

0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:51.240
<v Speaker 5>with Democrats, with Republicans, with independents and making their case.

0:33:51.560 --> 0:33:53.720
<v Speaker 5>And you know, we're less than two weeks out. We

0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:56.880
<v Speaker 5>feel like they are in a strong position, but we

0:33:56.960 --> 0:33:59.800
<v Speaker 5>are by no means in an environment that we can

0:33:59.800 --> 0:34:03.000
<v Speaker 5>take anything for granted or assume that we are going

0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:05.840
<v Speaker 5>to coast to the finish lines. So everyone's working really hard.

0:34:05.960 --> 0:34:08.480
<v Speaker 5>They're going to be persuading voters all the way through

0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:12.040
<v Speaker 5>pools close on election day and a win here and

0:34:12.080 --> 0:34:12.600
<v Speaker 5>a win.

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:15.160
<v Speaker 1>In New Jersey, yeah, well, in a win.

0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 5>With the governor right means that we will have built

0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:20.520
<v Speaker 5>a new trifecta, which will certainly help our path forward

0:34:20.560 --> 0:34:21.279
<v Speaker 5>for Democrats.

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:24.360
<v Speaker 1>It's an interesting moment because in Trump one point zero,

0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:27.239
<v Speaker 1>what we saw was there was like people were just

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:30.160
<v Speaker 1>fired up and they were like, Democrats are the vehicle

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:32.560
<v Speaker 1>we are going to use to win power path. This time,

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:35.799
<v Speaker 1>people are mad and they're mad of Trump, but they're

0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:39.240
<v Speaker 1>also mad at Democrats for letting them get into this position,

0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 1>which they got themselves into. But whatever, we're not here

0:34:42.200 --> 0:34:44.880
<v Speaker 1>to play the blame game. So talk us through that.

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:47.839
<v Speaker 1>Because we're seeing a map that we're seeing candidates that

0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:50.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, Democrats don't have the same power over their

0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:52.280
<v Speaker 1>base they did in twenty sixty.

0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:55.440
<v Speaker 5>You know, I feel really strongly that our work is

0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:57.759
<v Speaker 5>to get out into these communities and to make the

0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:00.760
<v Speaker 5>case for both our party, our values, our path forward.

0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:03.200
<v Speaker 5>There is no one who is better to do that

0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:07.719
<v Speaker 5>than Democrats at this ballot level, right, state legislators. State

0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:11.160
<v Speaker 5>legisative candidates are very much of their community. They are

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:15.840
<v Speaker 5>not career politicians, they are not often even full time politicians,

0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:19.759
<v Speaker 5>and they're like deep root in the community and willingness

0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:24.560
<v Speaker 5>to engage in just you know, regular dialogue about the

0:35:24.680 --> 0:35:27.560
<v Speaker 5>issues that we face, about the state of our community,

0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:30.719
<v Speaker 5>of our country, of the world. They're not overly scripted.

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:35.439
<v Speaker 5>They care deeply, and there's so much authenticity in how

0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:38.600
<v Speaker 5>they approach things. And you know, when I think about

0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:41.000
<v Speaker 5>what you were saying about, you know, how things felt

0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:44.960
<v Speaker 5>in twenty seventeen versus how they feel now. We've picked

0:35:45.040 --> 0:35:47.680
<v Speaker 5>up ten chambers since then, we've put a bunch of

0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:51.960
<v Speaker 5>more Democrats in power, and we haven't lost sight of

0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:54.000
<v Speaker 5>the fact that we still have to go out there

0:35:54.040 --> 0:35:57.240
<v Speaker 5>every day and make our case clearly, make our case

0:35:57.440 --> 0:36:01.600
<v Speaker 5>with you know, a level of understand that this is

0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:04.600
<v Speaker 5>not about who is right or wrong, but it's about

0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:07.240
<v Speaker 5>how do we come together and create a new future

0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:10.960
<v Speaker 5>for ourselves, one that considers everyone. And you know, I

0:36:11.000 --> 0:36:14.440
<v Speaker 5>think this year we've seen we've seen some progress, right,

0:36:14.480 --> 0:36:17.759
<v Speaker 5>We've been winning elections, and so I feel like we

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:22.480
<v Speaker 5>are certainly the sort of the anchor of the future

0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:28.240
<v Speaker 5>as we think about how do we hold space for voters,

0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:32.120
<v Speaker 5>for Democrats who are frustrated, who are exhausted, who are scared,

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:36.439
<v Speaker 5>have those real conversations and continue to put one foot

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:39.000
<v Speaker 5>in front of the other as we march our way

0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:39.960
<v Speaker 5>towards progress.

0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:42.520
<v Speaker 1>So, you got to get people to vote, You got

0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:46.120
<v Speaker 1>to get legislation passed. You got to get it happening

0:36:46.200 --> 0:36:49.600
<v Speaker 1>at the state legislature. You got this sort of Medicaid

0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Obamacare repeal that the Trump administration has pushed through. It's happening.

0:36:56.160 --> 0:37:00.680
<v Speaker 1>You got the federal government shut down because it's happening.

0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:02.960
<v Speaker 1>Is a way to try to temper it from happening.

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:06.800
<v Speaker 1>The most likely scenario is that Obamacare will in fact

0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:09.720
<v Speaker 1>be appealed, a lot of people will lose healthcare. There

0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 1>is a theory of the case that Democrats should stop

0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:18.799
<v Speaker 1>trying to help people and let them lose stuff they

0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:21.759
<v Speaker 1>voted for. A lot of people in red states are

0:37:21.840 --> 0:37:23.759
<v Speaker 1>going to lose a lot of stuff they did, in

0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:26.760
<v Speaker 1>fact vote for Trump, they do, in fact pay lower taxes.

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:28.200
<v Speaker 1>What's your theory about that.

0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:31.840
<v Speaker 5>I saw an interview that AOC did and she said,

0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:35.120
<v Speaker 5>I'm here to fight for everyone, regardless of whether or

0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:36.840
<v Speaker 5>not you voted for me, regardless of whether or not

0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:39.319
<v Speaker 5>you agree with me. We should have healthcare in this

0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:42.520
<v Speaker 5>country right amongst so many other things. And I don't

0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:47.279
<v Speaker 5>know that allowing people will flee to suffer is the

0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:49.640
<v Speaker 5>path forward. I think we need to make sure that

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<v Speaker 5>we are running candidates in places that we haven't run before,

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<v Speaker 5>that we are reaching communities and voters that may not

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<v Speaker 5>be a part of our coalition right now, but are

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<v Speaker 5>looking for a path forward. And I believe strongly that that,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, we need to go out there and make

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<v Speaker 5>our case. Your point, though, is, you know heard that

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<v Speaker 5>this administration and this presidency is pushing all of these

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<v Speaker 5>decisions and these problems into the states, and they don't

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<v Speaker 5>just affect blue states. There are so many people who

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<v Speaker 5>are no longer going to be able to afford healthcare

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<v Speaker 5>I believe strongly that that is something that we fight

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<v Speaker 5>for for everyone, regardless of whether or not they'll vote

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<v Speaker 5>for us. I think that you've got an electorate who

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<v Speaker 5>still seems to be finding its way through whether or

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<v Speaker 5>not this administration, if they voted for them, are delivering

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<v Speaker 5>on their behalf, whether or not they need some more time,

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<v Speaker 5>you know. I think the more we get bogged down

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<v Speaker 5>in that, the less we are out there talking about

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<v Speaker 5>the things that we care most about that we know

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<v Speaker 5>we can do something about, like lowering costs and making

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<v Speaker 5>sure that people have access to clean air and potable

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<v Speaker 5>drinking water and good schools and you know, great communities,

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<v Speaker 5>And we've got to not just fight Trump, but we

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<v Speaker 5>need to show people the vision for the future. And

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not sure how we do that if we're allowing

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<v Speaker 5>people willfully allowing people to be in pain.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And it's a real question. I mean, that is

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<v Speaker 1>the real question. Candidates are so different, and all of

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<v Speaker 1>these states are so different, and legislative priorities are so different.

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<v Speaker 1>But give me one piece of legislation that you are

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<v Speaker 1>excited about.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, you know, I'm excited about the constitutional amendments that

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<v Speaker 5>the legislature will deal with in Virginia on the other

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<v Speaker 5>side of this election, it's marriage, it's voting rights restoration.

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<v Speaker 5>These are meaningful things for the state and for all Virginians.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think it goes to show that when you

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<v Speaker 5>put Democrats in charge, like your rights are expanded, and

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<v Speaker 5>they are expanded in a way that is really, you know, thoughtful,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think that they're going to do, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>really really good things there. The other thing that I

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<v Speaker 5>love is the free school lunches for kids. This is

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<v Speaker 5>a big thing that happened in Minnesota. It's happening in

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<v Speaker 5>a number of states across the country. Our kids are

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<v Speaker 5>best served when they can pay attention in the classroom

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<v Speaker 5>and they can learn, and they are set up for

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<v Speaker 5>success when they have full bellies and access to you know,

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<v Speaker 5>good nutrition. And you know, that helps everyone because we

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<v Speaker 5>need the next generation to come in and continue to

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<v Speaker 5>fight for our country and our values. And I think

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<v Speaker 5>those are two things that I'm pretty excited about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that does sound good, Heather, Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for coming on. Thank you. And a moment Rick Wilson, Yes, ma'am,

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<v Speaker 1>I have the moment of fuck Gray, did I.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's do it. She's a Maverick a rebel.

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<v Speaker 1>Now she's just a corrupt asshole, the one, the only.

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<v Speaker 1>Kristen Cinema.

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<v Speaker 4>Kristen fucking Cinema now a lobbyist for Big Data Center,

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<v Speaker 4>saying to the people of Arizona, if you don't do

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<v Speaker 4>what I want, I'll have Donald Trump come and make

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<v Speaker 4>you do it. The problem is molly fucking believable. She

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<v Speaker 4>has always been a transactional, corrupt, ideologically malleable. It's like

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<v Speaker 4>a compliment to this woman. She's literally now working for

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<v Speaker 4>the AI tech overlords and using Donald Trump as a

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<v Speaker 4>threat to make people do what she wants. Unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>In case you're wondering, Kristen Cinema, I have trouble thinking

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<v Speaker 1>of someone who is more evil and disappointing. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I can because it's American politics.

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<v Speaker 4>Jill Stein.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, what happened to Jill Stein?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh she's just she's resting. She'll be back to run

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<v Speaker 4>as a third party again, like a cicada, Like a

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<v Speaker 4>freaking cicada.

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<v Speaker 3>God Almighty, that's.

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