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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of

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Speaker 1: today's best minds, and Scott Bessen says he's felt this

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Speaker 1: pain from China because he's quote actually a soybean farmer

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Speaker 1: and a one hundred millionaire, a multi hundred millionaire, a

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Speaker 1: you today. The Lincoln Project's owner Rick Wilson joins us

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Speaker 1: to discuss Trump getting an illegal one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to the d LCC's Heather Williams about how

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Speaker 2: But first the news, So, Molly, Scott Bessen went on

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Speaker 2: one of the things he says is that the US

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Speaker 2: will not lose money on the Argent bailout.

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Speaker 3: So I guess we're all going to be eating our

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Speaker 3: Shetinian steak.

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Speaker 1: You know, one of my favorite things about Scott Essen

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Speaker 1: saying ridiculous dishonest things on television. No, no, those are

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Speaker 1: the US will not lose money on its massive bailout

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Speaker 1: in the world, he continued, despite the fact that the currency,

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Speaker 1: like the dollar, is just going down the tubes. They've

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Speaker 1: gone all in on President Malay. You know why tell me,

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Speaker 1: because they want him to win. In order to rescue him,

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Speaker 1: they have pledged twenty billion dollar currency slop with the

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Speaker 1: since we bailed out Mexico in nineteen ninety five. Besson

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Speaker 1: private sector. By the way, these people are very into

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Speaker 1: promising big money from the private sector. Usually that doesn't happen,

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Speaker 1: so we'll see. But I remember many a private sector

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Speaker 1: deals that never came to fruition. You and I know

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Speaker 1: this to be true. Donald Trump is always saying that

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Speaker 3: You're telling me President deals doesn't live up to his brand.

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Speaker 1: I mean, by the way. I just am curious, like,

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Speaker 3: Been another ninety days since those ninety days elapsed.

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Speaker 1: Right, it's ninety million days, That's.

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Speaker 3: What every day this administration feels.

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Speaker 1: Like there iny million years.

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Speaker 2: So Senator Lindsey Graham, a man that for as long

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Speaker 2: excited to announce that Trump's were on Narco Terris is

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Speaker 2: in international waters, it kind of sounds like war with

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Speaker 1: You know, Congress is supposed to approve wars. Now, I

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Speaker 1: no this is all completely crazy. Right, Like, we blew

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Speaker 4: How are you on this fine day in our so

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Speaker 1: I'm just looking for a mysterious donor to donate one

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Speaker 4: You know. I kind of do no math. And I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So we're talking about Timothy Mallan volunteering to donate

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Speaker 4: Jeffrey Epstein files to be voted on in Congress. That's

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Speaker 4: must find Amelia air Arts. What fuck? And you know what,

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Speaker 4: What could be driving this? And you and I tend

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Speaker 1: So if they paid the troops out of this money,

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Speaker 4: And look, a number of them are going to or

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Speaker 1: And this weekend we saw Donald Trump go basically to

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I mean talk, but I do know a

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Speaker 5: Were united in everything is going to ship.

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Speaker 4: Two percent of Americans agree that the cause of that

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about what's happening in Iowa, Okay, because I

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Speaker 1: This is from the New York Times. I was GDP

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Speaker 4: You know how many people are on a snap in Iowa?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because you know why why don't people get snapped?

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Speaker 4: Because Donald Trump closed down the government to keep the

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Speaker 1: And they could have done snap. In fact, previous shutdowns

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Speaker 4: It would it be terriffs, Why it would be tariffs?

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Speaker 4: So look, I will say this, they are trust Trump.

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Speaker 1: I want to move on to something else, which is

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Speaker 1: This is a thing people really like to say. The

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Speaker 1: Yes, at seventy nine, he was the oldest person to

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Speaker 4: down into two boxes. One, Bannon is the king of

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Speaker 4: all bullshitter, and he's doing this to get on Trump's

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Speaker 4: good side and to and to keep himself in the

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Speaker 4: war room podcast.

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Speaker 1: Right, My take is that it's better for Bannett Bannon

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Speaker 1: wants Trump to see him supporting him.

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Speaker 4: That is correct. But I will also say if Bannon

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Speaker 4: finds a pathway that he can both monetize for himself

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Speaker 4: his podcast as media companies, bright barred, et cetera, and

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Speaker 4: he finds a path where where he thinks he can

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Speaker 4: somehow get the a a thinly argued but potentially Supreme

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Speaker 4: Court friendly third term lawsuit to the Supreme Court, he

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Speaker 4: will try to do it. He's not a guy with

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Speaker 4: a lot of shame. He will put.

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Speaker 1: Things All things can be true, right, all things can

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Speaker 1: be true.

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Speaker 4: But, as I like to say, if Bannon does start

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Speaker 4: to try to execute on this, and I'm gonna I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna tell my my liberal friends this, you don't have

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Speaker 4: to fight him just in court. You have to fight

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Speaker 4: in on every fucking access possible. You have to bring

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Speaker 4: a level of pain to the Republicans and to the

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Speaker 4: White House that they have.

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Speaker 1: Previously, not a nonviolent pain, non violent pain, but sure.

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Speaker 5: No violent.

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Speaker 4: That's that's when that's when the Democrats in Congress justations.

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Speaker 4: That's when they say to the White House, we're cutting

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Speaker 4: the White House's budget, We're eliminating Russ Vought's salary. Exactly

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Speaker 4: through every aspect of this where they have to exercise

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Speaker 4: power in a way that Democrats often hesitate to exercise it.

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Speaker 1: For sure, I do want to say, Jake Tapper, where

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Speaker 1: is your book on Donald Trump's health? Because those cankles.

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Speaker 1: I was told.

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Speaker 4: Presidential health and mental fitness was the central issue of

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Speaker 4: our time. I would like to see more reporting on that,

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Speaker 4: from more reporters on that. And then's just saying it,

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Speaker 4: you know, and not like Biden watched did he stumble

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Speaker 4: up a staircase today? As opposed to Trump, who goes

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Speaker 4: into every every cabinet meeting, every presser, every press availability,

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Speaker 4: on the plane, it's like herbal purple, Shamalalam ding dong,

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Speaker 4: and he's just saying shit and you don't know what

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Speaker 4: the fuck is happening.

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Speaker 1: Rick Wilson, Yes, ma'am, will you come back?

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Speaker 4: Of course I will. You know me.

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Speaker 1: Heather Williams is the president of the Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fast Politics. Heather, thank you.

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Speaker 5: I'm excited to be here.

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Speaker 1: So explain to us what you do, because I think

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Speaker 1: that's important data point.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Sure, So.

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Speaker 5: The Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee is the national campaign arm

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Speaker 5: for state legislatures. We look across all the legislative races

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Speaker 5: and find the opportunities for Democrats to build power in

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Speaker 5: the states.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we have a moment when Republicans are using the

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Speaker 1: states as an atm to get whatever they want. And

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Speaker 1: I would argue that the worst offender is Governor Greg

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Speaker 1: Abbott and ken Baxton, but there are certainly other states

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Speaker 1: where we've seen Republicans do just crazy shit at the

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Speaker 1: state level. And you could say, maybe it's started with Alec,

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Speaker 1: maybe it's started with you know, any number of things.

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Speaker 1: So there's so much anxiety about elections, and with good reason.

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Speaker 1: So at first, I want you to talk about ways

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Speaker 1: in which Democrats at the state level can protect our elections,

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Speaker 1: because elections are supposed to be administered at the state level.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, just grabbing on for just a second

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Speaker 5: onto your note about Republicans seizing power here in the States,

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Speaker 5: you know, this has been a build for them. They

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Speaker 5: really came into this in twenty ten with Project Red Map,

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Speaker 5: and we've been finding our way back since to get

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Speaker 5: to your point on sort of election security, if you will,

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Speaker 5: since Trump has been around. You know, we've won ten

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Speaker 5: legislative majorities and that matters because we have more power

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Speaker 5: in the states now. As you know, states are where

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Speaker 5: we determine our election laws. It's where we determine our

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Speaker 5: voting laws. These folks are on the front line line

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Speaker 5: and in so many of the battlegrounds where you know

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Speaker 5: sort of all of this is ground zero. We have,

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Speaker 5: you know, some lever of power in the states, and

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Speaker 5: you know that is what is going to carry us

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Speaker 5: through these next moments as we navigate this Trump approach

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Speaker 5: to elections.

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Speaker 4: So that is.

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Speaker 1: Good to hear. So tell me what that looks like.

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Speaker 1: And also, I do think Trump wants people to be

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Speaker 1: more scared than they should be. So explain to us

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Speaker 1: all of this.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, listen, Like, fundamentally, Republicans need to turn

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Speaker 5: out their voters and they need every mechanism to do so.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 5: They need voters to participate in our democracy through early

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Speaker 5: vote opportunities, whether that's by mail or in person. We

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Speaker 5: are seeing this in Virginia. They need folks to turn out,

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Speaker 5: and they need all those tools in their toolkits. So

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Speaker 5: the national narrative that the president is spinning and what's

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Speaker 5: happening on the ground as we work through all of

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Speaker 5: these election moments just look different.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 5: We've been winning elections already in the States all year long,

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Speaker 5: and they have really been a democratic process, right, we

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Speaker 5: flip free Trump districts. They have been safe, secure, honest elections,

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Speaker 5: even when Democrats have won in places that they shouldn't have.

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Speaker 5: So I think we must imagine a future where we

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Speaker 5: think about all the things that could happen, but we

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Speaker 5: must also be resolved in what is happening so that

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Speaker 5: we continue to focus on the thing that matters most,

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Speaker 5: which is winning these elections and putting Democrats in more

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Speaker 5: power so that we can find our way through this mess.

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Speaker 1: That's right, So talk us through what that looks like.

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Speaker 1: I want you to talk us through the different states

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Speaker 1: where Democrats have power and how Democrats are using that legislatively.

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Speaker 5: Democrats have power over roughly like fifty percent of the

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Speaker 5: country in their state capitals. This is not obviously a

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Speaker 5: small number of people. You know, the policies that are

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Speaker 5: being moved forward in these states matters so much. It's

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Speaker 5: always matter, but it matters now because this is where

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Speaker 5: Democrats have power. We sit in the minority federally, we

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Speaker 5: don't have the presidency. This is where we are getting

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Speaker 5: things done. And we see both these legislatures, Democrats who

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Speaker 5: are leading these legislatures move on issues of affordability and

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Speaker 5: costs and sort of those kitchen table issues that voters

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Speaker 5: have been asking elected officials to pay attention to, while

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Speaker 5: also making sure that you know, people can get access

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Speaker 5: to healthcare and that they're able to tap into the

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Speaker 5: benefits and or services that they may need, and they're

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Speaker 5: going to continue to approach it, you know, both ways,

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Speaker 5: both finding a path forward for a country and in

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Speaker 5: their community that certainly deserves it, while also filling in

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Speaker 5: the deep polls that this administration has placed on communities

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Speaker 5: across the country.

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Speaker 1: Right give us a state where this is happening.

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Speaker 5: New Mexico is a really incredible example of moving forward

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Speaker 5: in like these times. They've they just passed some legislation

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Speaker 5: that helps ensure that New Mexicans can get health care

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Speaker 5: coverage as the ACA and Medicaid gets pulled back. It's smart,

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Speaker 5: but it's also very responsive to their community. You know,

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Speaker 5: we continue to see efforts to move forward policy and

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Speaker 5: education that ensures that all of our kids can be educated,

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Speaker 5: regardless of their learning style or learning ability. It's really

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Speaker 5: remarkable how contrasting it is between Republican state and a

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Speaker 5: state with democratic leadership delivering on the simplest things like

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Speaker 5: a budget on time, you know, the things that is

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Speaker 5: expected from one's state house. We're really seeing, you know,

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Speaker 5: Democrats lead the way, and we're going to continue to

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Speaker 5: see them.

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Speaker 1: Virginia's a state that has a big off your election.

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Speaker 1: Just had a debate last night. The Democrat is pulling

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Speaker 1: to win. The Republicans have fired all the people work

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Speaker 1: in the state, so that may help the Democrat, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, but talk us through, like the House of

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Speaker 1: Delegates is all up. One year, we interviewed every single

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Speaker 1: person running for the House of Delegates, not every single one,

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Speaker 1: but many of the people running for the House of

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Speaker 1: Delegates and the state Senate, right and it was a

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Speaker 1: fascinating adventure. Talk us through how the state legislature works

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Speaker 1: in Virginia, because that's up now.

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Speaker 5: It is it is. The House of Delegates is up

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Speaker 5: on November's ballot. There are currently fifty one Democrats, so

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Speaker 5: we have a majority by one seat. The state Senate

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Speaker 5: is not up for election this year, so it's just

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Speaker 5: the House of Delegates. The amazing thing that is happening

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Speaker 5: in Virginia is these candidates are of their community. They're

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Speaker 5: super representative. They are not career politicians. They are not

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Speaker 5: you know, folks that come with sort of that perspective.

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Speaker 5: They're there to serve their community and to do that

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Speaker 5: in the best way possible. So we start with really

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Speaker 5: excellent candidates in every district across the state, and I

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Speaker 5: think a resolve that the work here is to meet

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Speaker 5: voters on the issues that they actually care about, which

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Speaker 5: are these core kitchen table issues.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 5: Virginia has an enormous federal workforce, it has deep federal

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Speaker 5: economic impact, but it's also a state that has medicated

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Speaker 5: expansion and rural hospitals and a port and military base,

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Speaker 5: and veterans hospitals, and the lack of care that Republicans

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Speaker 5: have for any of those communities, any of those issues.

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Speaker 5: It's showing up every day. And what we see is

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Speaker 5: the candidates are on the doors talking to voters every

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Speaker 5: single day. They're putting their efforts into having those conversations

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Speaker 5: with Democrats, with Republicans, with independents and making their case.

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Speaker 5: And you know, we're less than two weeks out. We

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Speaker 5: feel like they are in a strong position, but we

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Speaker 5: are by no means in an environment that we can

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Speaker 5: take anything for granted or assume that we are going

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Speaker 5: to coast to the finish lines. So everyone's working really hard.

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Speaker 5: They're going to be persuading voters all the way through

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Speaker 5: pools close on election day and a win here and

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Speaker 5: a win.

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Speaker 1: In New Jersey, yeah, well, in a win.

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Speaker 5: With the governor right means that we will have built

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Speaker 5: a new trifecta, which will certainly help our path forward

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Speaker 5: for Democrats.

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Speaker 1: It's an interesting moment because in Trump one point zero,

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Speaker 1: what we saw was there was like people were just

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Speaker 1: fired up and they were like, Democrats are the vehicle

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Speaker 1: we are going to use to win power path. This time,

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Speaker 1: people are mad and they're mad of Trump, but they're

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Speaker 1: also mad at Democrats for letting them get into this position,

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Speaker 1: which they got themselves into. But whatever, we're not here

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Speaker 1: to play the blame game. So talk us through that.

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Speaker 1: Because we're seeing a map that we're seeing candidates that

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Speaker 1: you know, Democrats don't have the same power over their

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Speaker 1: base they did in twenty sixty.

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Speaker 5: You know, I feel really strongly that our work is

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Speaker 5: to get out into these communities and to make the

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Speaker 5: case for both our party, our values, our path forward.

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Speaker 5: There is no one who is better to do that

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Speaker 5: than Democrats at this ballot level, right, state legislators. State

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Speaker 5: legisative candidates are very much of their community. They are

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Speaker 5: not career politicians, they are not often even full time politicians,

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Speaker 5: and they're like deep root in the community and willingness

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Speaker 5: to engage in just you know, regular dialogue about the

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Speaker 5: issues that we face, about the state of our community,

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Speaker 5: of our country, of the world. They're not overly scripted.

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Speaker 5: They care deeply, and there's so much authenticity in how

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Speaker 5: they approach things. And you know, when I think about

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Speaker 5: what you were saying about, you know, how things felt

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Speaker 5: in twenty seventeen versus how they feel now. We've picked

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Speaker 5: up ten chambers since then, we've put a bunch of

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Speaker 5: more Democrats in power, and we haven't lost sight of

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Speaker 5: the fact that we still have to go out there

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Speaker 5: every day and make our case clearly, make our case

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Speaker 5: with you know, a level of understand that this is

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Speaker 5: not about who is right or wrong, but it's about

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Speaker 5: how do we come together and create a new future

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Speaker 5: for ourselves, one that considers everyone. And you know, I

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Speaker 5: think this year we've seen we've seen some progress, right,

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Speaker 5: We've been winning elections, and so I feel like we

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Speaker 5: are certainly the sort of the anchor of the future

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Speaker 5: as we think about how do we hold space for voters,

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Speaker 5: for Democrats who are frustrated, who are exhausted, who are scared,

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Speaker 5: have those real conversations and continue to put one foot

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Speaker 5: towards progress.

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Speaker 1: So, you got to get people to vote, You got

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Speaker 1: to get legislation passed. You got to get it happening

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Speaker 1: at the state legislature. You got this sort of Medicaid

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Speaker 1: Obamacare repeal that the Trump administration has pushed through. It's happening.

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Speaker 1: You got the federal government shut down because it's happening.

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Speaker 1: Is a way to try to temper it from happening.

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Speaker 1: The most likely scenario is that Obamacare will in fact

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Speaker 1: be appealed, a lot of people will lose healthcare. There

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Speaker 1: is a theory of the case that Democrats should stop

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Speaker 1: trying to help people and let them lose stuff they

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Speaker 1: voted for. A lot of people in red states are

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Speaker 1: going to lose a lot of stuff they did, in

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Speaker 1: fact vote for Trump, they do, in fact pay lower taxes.

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Speaker 1: What's your theory about that.

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Speaker 5: I saw an interview that AOC did and she said,

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Speaker 5: I'm here to fight for everyone, regardless of whether or

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Speaker 5: not you voted for me, regardless of whether or not

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Speaker 5: you agree with me. We should have healthcare in this

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Speaker 5: country right amongst so many other things. And I don't

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Speaker 5: know that allowing people will flee to suffer is the

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Speaker 5: path forward. I think we need to make sure that

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Speaker 5: we are running candidates in places that we haven't run before,

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Speaker 5: that we are reaching communities and voters that may not

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Speaker 5: be a part of our coalition right now, but are

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Speaker 5: looking for a path forward. And I believe strongly that that,

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Speaker 5: you know, we need to go out there and make

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Speaker 5: our case. Your point, though, is, you know heard that

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Speaker 5: this administration and this presidency is pushing all of these

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Speaker 5: decisions and these problems into the states, and they don't

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Speaker 5: just affect blue states. There are so many people who

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Speaker 5: are no longer going to be able to afford healthcare

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Speaker 5: I believe strongly that that is something that we fight

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Speaker 5: for for everyone, regardless of whether or not they'll vote

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Speaker 5: for us. I think that you've got an electorate who

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Speaker 5: still seems to be finding its way through whether or

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Speaker 5: not this administration, if they voted for them, are delivering

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Speaker 5: on their behalf, whether or not they need some more time,

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Speaker 5: you know. I think the more we get bogged down

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Speaker 5: in that, the less we are out there talking about

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Speaker 5: the things that we care most about that we know

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Speaker 5: we can do something about, like lowering costs and making

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Speaker 5: sure that people have access to clean air and potable

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Speaker 5: drinking water and good schools and you know, great communities,

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Speaker 5: And we've got to not just fight Trump, but we

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Speaker 5: need to show people the vision for the future. And

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure how we do that if we're allowing

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Speaker 5: people willfully allowing people to be in pain.

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Speaker 1: Right, And it's a real question. I mean, that is

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Speaker 1: the real question. Candidates are so different, and all of

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Speaker 1: these states are so different, and legislative priorities are so different.

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Speaker 1: But give me one piece of legislation that you are

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Speaker 1: excited about.

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Speaker 5: Oh, you know, I'm excited about the constitutional amendments that

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Speaker 5: the legislature will deal with in Virginia on the other

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Speaker 5: side of this election, it's marriage, it's voting rights restoration.

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Speaker 5: These are meaningful things for the state and for all Virginians.

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Speaker 5: And I think it goes to show that when you

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Speaker 5: put Democrats in charge, like your rights are expanded, and

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Speaker 5: they are expanded in a way that is really, you know, thoughtful,

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Speaker 5: and I think that they're going to do, you know,

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Speaker 5: really really good things there. The other thing that I

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Speaker 5: love is the free school lunches for kids. This is

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Speaker 5: a big thing that happened in Minnesota. It's happening in

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Speaker 5: a number of states across the country. Our kids are

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Speaker 5: best served when they can pay attention in the classroom

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Speaker 5: and they can learn, and they are set up for

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Speaker 5: success when they have full bellies and access to you know,

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Speaker 5: good nutrition. And you know, that helps everyone because we

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Speaker 5: need the next generation to come in and continue to

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Speaker 5: fight for our country and our values. And I think

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Speaker 5: those are two things that I'm pretty excited about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that does sound good, Heather, Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for coming on. Thank you. And a moment Rick Wilson, Yes, ma'am,

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Speaker 1: I have the moment of fuck Gray, did I.

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Speaker 4: Let's do it. She's a Maverick a rebel.

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Speaker 1: Now she's just a corrupt asshole, the one, the only.

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Speaker 1: Kristen Cinema.

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Speaker 4: Kristen fucking Cinema now a lobbyist for Big Data Center,

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Speaker 4: saying to the people of Arizona, if you don't do

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Speaker 4: what I want, I'll have Donald Trump come and make

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Speaker 4: you do it. The problem is molly fucking believable. She

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Speaker 4: has always been a transactional, corrupt, ideologically malleable. It's like

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Speaker 4: a compliment to this woman. She's literally now working for

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Speaker 4: the AI tech overlords and using Donald Trump as a

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Speaker 4: threat to make people do what she wants. Unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: In case you're wondering, Kristen Cinema, I have trouble thinking

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Speaker 1: of someone who is more evil and disappointing. I mean

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Speaker 1: I can because it's American politics.

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Speaker 4: Jill Stein.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what happened to Jill Stein?

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Speaker 4: Oh she's just she's resting. She'll be back to run

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Speaker 4: as a third party again, like a cicada, Like a

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Speaker 4: freaking cicada.

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Speaker 3: God Almighty, that's.

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