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Speaker 1: Revere Revee Donks, look at us now, tip to tip.

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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion.

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Speaker 2: That's the spirit we bring to this show.

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Speaker 1: I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat. It is Monday, January fourth, twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty one, Revee, Revelle Donks. Hello out there, Welcome to

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Speaker 2: Morning Combat. My name is Luke Thomas. I am one

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Speaker 2: half of your hosting duo. We are a team from

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Speaker 2: CBS Sports. I am joined by the gentleman on that

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Speaker 2: side of the screen. He is the conspiracy to my theory.

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Speaker 2: Uh he is. I don't know what else he would be,

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Speaker 2: but he is many things that are wonderful. It is

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Speaker 2: my friend and yours. It is Brian Campbell. What's up,

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Speaker 2: ec How was your weekend?

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Speaker 1: Oh it was great, Luke. It's a new year and

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Speaker 1: that means no limits except on certain amounts of speech.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy to start the new calendar year, Luke, with

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Speaker 1: no grudges. Isn't that what you were supposed to do

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Speaker 1: on New Year's Eve? Like just purge, just let it

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Speaker 1: all out, so no one's coming after me right now? Right?

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Speaker 1: You know? Can a brother get a little peace right

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Speaker 1: war in the streets War in the Middle East, Luke,

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Speaker 1: instead of of a war on poverty, they had a

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Speaker 1: war against hating risen So jmma could bother me. But

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Speaker 1: I'm back. I'm ready, all right.

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Speaker 2: I'm ready speaking of which we will get to that

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Speaker 2: in a whole lot more here on the very first

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Speaker 2: episode of Morn to Kombat in the year twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 2: So what we're gonna get to today, as I mentioned

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Speaker 2: rising results, but we'll also talk about Ryan Garcia's huge

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Speaker 1: Mos vidalion with this look correct?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit, a little bit. I mean you

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Speaker 2: don't quite have the lantern jaw. But other than that, Wow, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, alrighty then, hey, Luke, do you have any thing

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Speaker 1: new year? It is a chance to wipe the slate clean. Uh,

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Speaker 1: the trash panda identity. But I have limits, Luke. Only

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's got the he's the deuce deuce Roger

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Speaker 1: If they're willing to fight each other even you know

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Speaker 1: Look, say whatever you want about Ryan Garcia on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: tough names around you. The next year or two at

431
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Speaker 1: light good god, it's gonna be insane. Yes, they need

432
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Speaker 1: to fight each other, but even as planets hovering around

433
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Speaker 1: each other, it's gonna be really fun to see what

434
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Speaker 1: the next couple of years brings.

435
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'll be curious. Get your perspective on this, BC,

436
00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,760
Speaker 2: which is I don't think from what I can tell

437
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,720
Speaker 2: that they're happening at the same rate. But you know,

438
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,600
Speaker 2: this is a great time to be both a boxing

439
00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,320
Speaker 2: and MMA fan, because, dude, there is a real youth

440
00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,399
Speaker 2: movement happening. Frankly, in both sports, there is always this

441
00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,800
Speaker 2: ushering out of old and in with the new that

442
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,919
Speaker 2: part is true, But there appears to be as you

443
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,000
Speaker 2: hear my dogs going ape shit, there appears to be

444
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:26,560
Speaker 2: an even greater pronounced movement as we speak today, where

445
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,199
Speaker 2: there is a ton of youth displacing older talent on

446
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Speaker 2: the MM side of things, like a Kevin Holland for example,

447
00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,000
Speaker 2: you know, beating a Jacquaray and on the boxing side.

448
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,480
Speaker 2: These four guys, to your point, are not the only ones.

449
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 2: They are emblematic of the larger movement. But we could

450
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,960
Speaker 2: name a lot of names. How about guys who still

451
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,640
Speaker 2: have a lot to prove, but there's a lot exciting about.

452
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,479
Speaker 2: How about Jaron Ennis for example, cool boy Steph for example.

453
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 2: I mean the boxing side of things, Dude, you have

454
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:58,440
Speaker 2: so many interesting younger guys. These four are kind of

455
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Speaker 2: leading the pack in terms of what they have acomplished

456
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,359
Speaker 2: and name value, notoriety. But would you agree bec that,

457
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 2: like more than normal, we're having turnover from old to

458
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Speaker 2: young in both combat sports. And I'm not saying if

459
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 2: that is true, it's happening for the same reasons, but

460
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 2: it does feel like it's happening right now.

461
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Speaker 1: It does, and it's exciting, and that's how you revitalize

462
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,920
Speaker 1: eras and sports and you know, I mean, we hear

463
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 1: too much that boxing is dead, and obviously boxing constantly

464
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 1: shooting itself in the foot. It's sort of it's mo

465
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Speaker 1: it's how it's gonna be right, it's with the scarlet

466
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 1: letter on my sport already it is she is who

467
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,200
Speaker 1: she is. But this is gonna help boxing really reload,

468
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,399
Speaker 1: obviously along with the heavyweights, along with that always sexy

469
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 1: walterweight division. If we can get Spence and Crawford, you know,

470
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 1: on the road to fighting each other by the end

471
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Speaker 1: of this calendar year, Yeah, we're in a great spot.

472
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Speaker 1: But again, it not only takes being marketable and being

473
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Speaker 1: really good. It's a willingness and we don't consistently see

474
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Speaker 1: that willingness across the board to do what those guys

475
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Speaker 1: did in the eighties, which is not be able to

476
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Speaker 1: rest knowing that there's somebody out there. There wasn't Twitter

477
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 1: in the mid eighties, but not being able to rest

478
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 1: that there's some fan out there that thinks another fighter

479
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 1: is better than them. That was sometimes the calling card

480
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 1: to get these guys up. Yeah, it was about money,

481
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 1: yet it was about those things, but it was about glory. Now,

482
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 1: if you make your whole career about glory, you may

483
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Speaker 1: be slowing your speech at age forty eight. I mean,

484
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Speaker 1: it is what it is at the end of the day.

485
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Speaker 1: But we're seeing, I think, in this new new era

486
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Speaker 1: right now, just a willingness to put it out there.

487
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Speaker 1: I mean, luke off the just the top of your

488
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Speaker 1: dome from a pulse check. How freaking excited would you

489
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Speaker 1: be if Ryan Garcia fought both Devin Haney and Tank

490
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Speaker 1: Davis in the next eighteen months, And I mean Shackrse

491
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Speaker 1: Stevenson fought Loma and Teyo Fimo fought you know, HAINI

492
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Speaker 1: I mean, just like all this is ridiculous right now.

493
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean we should slow the role too, because

494
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Speaker 2: if you actually look at the time that the Four

495
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Speaker 2: Kings actually did this, I don't want to be clear.

496
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Speaker 2: It's like I'm not telling you that Hany and Lopez

497
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Speaker 2: and whoever, I'm not declaring to you that this era

498
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Speaker 2: is four Kings. They have to fight each other before

499
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Speaker 2: we can even begin to say that. What we're merely

500
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Speaker 2: pointing out is there are some interesting parallels. Well, if

501
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Speaker 2: they go down that path, if they choose to do that,

502
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 2: they might end up being in a position where we

503
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Speaker 2: can call them as much. But I want to point

504
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 2: out something. If you actually look at Duran's record, for example,

505
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 2: I pulled it up. He fought let's see, he fought

506
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Speaker 2: the first of the four that he thought was Hagler,

507
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 2: that was eighty three. Then he fought Hearns in eighty four,

508
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 2: where I'm looking up. Oh yeah, sorry, I fought Leonard

509
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,439
Speaker 2: before that in eighty and eight, two times in eighty okay,

510
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 2: but the other ones were still three or four years apart, right,

511
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 2: so it didn't happen all on top of each other.

512
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Speaker 2: The one thing I'm trying to point out here is

513
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Speaker 2: if you look at it, you have a situation where

514
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Speaker 2: when they fight each other BC, I don't think it's

515
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 2: all going to happen in the next two years or

516
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Speaker 2: three years, or frankly maybe even four years.

517
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Speaker 1: It might at this weight class, it may not happen

518
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Speaker 1: at this weight class.

519
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 2: And that's exactly I'm I'm just pointing out this could

520
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 2: be a five to six to seven year project. What

521
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 2: we want to see is I think in the next

522
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 2: two years at least one or more of those permutations

523
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 2: because BC on the heavyweight side of things. Of all

524
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Speaker 2: the big heavyweight fights that we could have had, we've

525
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,959
Speaker 2: only really had one, and we've had it twice and

526
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 2: it was good both times for different reasons. But we've

527
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 2: not had Wilder versus Joshua. We've not had Joshua versus Fury.

528
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 2: They still have some time to get this done, but

529
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 2: that frustration begins to build about what what kind of

530
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 2: era work? Are really gonna have it heavyweight if they

531
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Speaker 2: don't make those fights happen. So I think some patience

532
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 2: is in order at one hundred and thirty five pounds.

533
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Speaker 1: It certainly is from the idea that look a lot

534
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Speaker 1: of you know, if you're doing a two network pay

535
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Speaker 1: per view, if you guys guys on separate sides of

536
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: the street, they're both gonna have to get a little

537
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: bit more popular before it's really gonna work. So that

538
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: we understand that. But we're talking about Ryan Garcia put

539
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Speaker 1: in the words Tank Davis and Devin Haney in his mouth.

540
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Speaker 1: We saw Devin Haney in the crowd. Look, I love

541
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Speaker 1: a Tank Davis fight, you know, And I know that

542
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Speaker 1: even Steven Espinosa, who was on the show last year,

543
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Speaker 1: was like, we would love to do a Tank Davis

544
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Speaker 1: Ryan Garcia fight. So I'm not putting off that it's

545
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Speaker 1: impossible to make, but would you say it's more likely

546
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Speaker 1: Ryan Garcia is gonna fight dev and Haney given that

547
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: they're both on the same network.

548
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 2: It's so for folks who mean, I know, it's also

549
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 2: the WBC mandatory. Haney called him out. Garcia said he well,

550
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Speaker 2: Garcia was seemed to be morched in Tank Davis and

551
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,959
Speaker 2: maybe Lopez than he was Haney, which could be some gamesmanship,

552
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 2: but if you just look at the matchup SPC, this

553
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 2: is not hard to figure out, right. So here are

554
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 2: Garcia's choices. Tank Davis is one, obviously Lopez is another.

555
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 2: And then you have Haney Haney on the same network,

556
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Speaker 2: different promoter, but promoters that work for the same network

557
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 2: in his own and it's the WBC mandatory. Easy call.

558
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 2: Golden Boy and Top Rank I think don't necessarily like

559
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 2: each other, but could get it done. With Golden Boy

560
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 2: and PBC. It seems like that one might be a

561
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Speaker 2: little bit further away. Plus, Tank Davis a pay per

562
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Speaker 2: view star at this point, or at least pay per

563
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 2: view I think sort of level. It's a little bit

564
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Speaker 2: harder to do maybe, So if I had to rank

565
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Speaker 2: them in likeliest PC, I go Hany, then I go Lopez,

566
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Speaker 2: then I go Davis. What is your power ranking there?

567
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna say Hani most likely, But sometimes it

568
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,239
Speaker 1: just depends on leverage in the moment. Because if Ryan

569
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Speaker 1: Garcia had struggled here to win and we had a

570
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: lot more questions, you know, you can make the argument

571
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Speaker 1: that somebody like a Davonte's gonna go out of his

572
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: way to fight him. Now Ryan Garcia is in a

573
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Speaker 1: power position coming off a strong win, but obviously not

574
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Speaker 1: a win that didn't have any questions. So I do

575
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Speaker 1: want to close with you this. I think Hani's most

576
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Speaker 1: likely next. I don't think the tank fight is impossible

577
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Speaker 1: to make. But how concerned are you, Luke Thomas. I've

578
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Speaker 1: seen a young dal La Hooya get dropped before. I've

579
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Speaker 1: seen Trinidad got dropped a ton on his way up

580
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Speaker 1: when he was still knocking dudes out. How concerned are

581
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Speaker 1: you overall with what we saw at at Garcia in

582
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Speaker 1: that second round.

583
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Speaker 2: If he fights Hany next, maybe a lot concerned, But

584
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Speaker 2: I'm not going to say I'm not concerned, BC, But

585
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 2: you have to understand something A young fighter almost always,

586
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 2: and there will be exceptions that you can point to.

587
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 2: So someone's gonna want to say this, some one's gonna say, yeah,

588
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 2: but what about X? What about why? Sure? But in general,

589
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 2: your offense will be better than your defense as an

590
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 2: immature fighter. Now, not as a bad fighter, but as

591
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: a young one, offense tends to come better because fighters

592
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 2: tend to focus on it more. They tend to gravitate

593
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 2: towards training more. They just simply invest more time and

594
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 2: a defense is not something that they necessarily prioritize until

595
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 2: they have to with a wake up call like this

596
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: against Luke Campbell where he got dropped and you can

597
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 2: even tell he was like, that should not have happened.

598
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 2: I let it happen because my defense was not on

599
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: a point, and of course Campbell's a crafty fighter as well.

600
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 2: That tends to be those moments where you realize there

601
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 2: needs to be more happen here. Now. Is that me

602
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 2: declaring to Ubc that by age twenty five, the reason

603
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 2: he got dropped on this fight won't rear its head

604
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 2: then No, I have no way of knowing that. But

605
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 2: it is very, very very common for a fighter at

606
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 2: this stage in their overall development to have offense that

607
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,959
Speaker 2: far exceeds their defense. It'll be interesting to see if

608
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 2: he can make up that ground as he ages.

609
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Speaker 1: Definitely, definitely can't wait to see. And by the way,

610
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: shout out to Luke Campbell. I know he's gonna go

611
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: down as you know, a guy who went to the

612
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: title level three times and lost three close fights and

613
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: you become sort of an elite gate caper at that point.

614
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Speaker 1: But he's world class Luke. He may not be a finisher,

615
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,199
Speaker 1: and that ultimately may stop Luke Campbell from you know,

616
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: really climbing that mountain. But he's only thirty three. I

617
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: could still see him winning a world title. I could

618
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Speaker 1: still see him making fun fights. He's he's he's a

619
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Speaker 1: tough out man. He had a good night except for

620
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Speaker 1: that the mask.

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Speaker 2: Well we'll move on to MMA for this. He has

622
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Speaker 2: Olympic pedigree. Is he like is he like a lightweight

623
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Speaker 2: derrevvian Chenko something like that.

624
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't have the uh, you know, the top

625
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: end power you know, like you know, or even sometimes

626
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: the the instinct to finish a guy, you know. Even

627
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: he was somewhat conservative after he had Garcia Floord on

628
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: a perfect shot and maybe that holds him back from

629
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Speaker 1: getting to that super super earlit level. But god, does

630
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: he have the size, the heart, the craft, the the

631
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Speaker 1: you know, the amateur back. I mean, he's got he's

632
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: got almost everything, but yeah, he's missing that that that

633
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: one thing to get him over. But God, he's given

634
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: some guys some tough runs. I thought he had a

635
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: chance on the scorecards against Lenaris. He looked great at

636
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: times against Loma. You know, you are who you are

637
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: at the end of the day. But he makes fun fights.

638
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 2: That guy. He's not a bad fighter. He's a very

639
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 2: very quality fighter. And my heart broke for him in

640
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 2: his interview, but you know what, he handled it with

641
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 2: all class too, congratulated Ryan Garcia and tapped up Canelo.

642
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 2: So it's the best you can ask for given the circumstances.

643
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 2: All right, we moved now to point number three onto

644
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 2: the MMA side of things. This happened a little bit

645
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: earlier in well, i should say later last week. Some

646
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: time has expired since then, but we had Rise in

647
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: twenty six BC's favorite event, as I'm sure he's willing

648
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 2: to tell you right now, But in all seriousness, let's

649
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 2: talk about the main event here for just a second.

650
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: Kio Jivoragucci, who had to give up his titles basically

651
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 2: due to time off and everything else because he had

652
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 2: lost Kayas Korba's non title, so he had injury, he

653
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 2: had layoff fifteen months gone, comes back the rising titles

654
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 2: up for grabs against the guy who beat him again

655
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 2: that didn't beat him for the title, and BC he

656
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 2: fucking demolished him. He looked great first. Yeah, what is

657
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 2: your reaction? I'm serious, what is your reaction to? Killed

658
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 2: you her? A Gucci's I won't call it a statement win,

659
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 2: but a statement comeback win for sure.

660
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. What a man, What a man, what a very

661
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: good man? What a performance? How do you turn back

662
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: fifteen months questions about injuries? You know, coming off the

663
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: only you know, the only major defeat he's had only

664
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: defeat in general since Demetrius Johnson fight. I mean that

665
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: run Horgucci had been on was incredible and then he

666
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: gets knocked out in the first round, and he comes

667
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: back from all that and just makes it look easy

668
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: and sort of caught Asakura jumping into a shot in

669
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: a wait, almost the little little like Fador against Arlovski there,

670
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: and that's sort of just you know, we're just catching

671
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: a guy at the beginning of his jump there. But

672
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: that's a statement powerful win. I mean, you know, amid

673
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: my clowning when we did try to half ass preview this,

674
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: you know, I meant it. Horror Gucci is among the

675
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: best in the world at his weight classer what he does,

676
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: and he doesn't necessarily get that full attention for it.

677
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: But this was a reminder of what's there. He's still

678
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: in his uh you know, physical and mental prime here

679
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: and this was a great win that you know, you

680
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: want to see him against the very best now he's back.

681
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,719
Speaker 1: This was like what else could you have wanted there,

682
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: unless you know, some topless girls jumped over the ropes

683
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: and hugged him or something. I mean, it was a

684
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: perfect not at the office.

685
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, here's what I looked when I when I watched

686
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 2: this fight, I was like, first of all, the leg kicks,

687
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: the calf kicks, I should say, with their leg kicks,

688
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 2: but the calfkicks of Hora Gucci were tearing Asacora up

689
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 2: and that was a nice strategic thing to do. But

690
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 2: more than that, he looked sprightly. He looked like he

691
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: had good timing. You mentioned the shot that was like

692
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 2: fad Or or Alofsky ask from affliction. You know, you

693
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 2: have to have good timing to do that. He had

694
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 2: just really on point timing. He didn't look like there

695
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 2: any physical issues lingering from the layoff, Like he looked super,

696
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 2: super ready for this, and Osakora never got close. I mean,

697
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 2: once those leg kicks started adding up, he was changing stances,

698
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: he was backing up. I mean, Hora Gucci beat him

699
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: basically in every way. I wonder about the stoppage. I

700
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: don't know if it was a little earlier. I couldn't

701
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 2: tell what was on Oscacarda's face because the ref kind

702
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 2: of covered it up against the ropes. But either way,

703
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: that fight was going in horror Gucci's direction the entire time.

704
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: He just looked phenomenal. So it wasn't just a great

705
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: win over a guy who had beaten you before. It

706
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 2: was a great win to remind everyone why you are revered.

707
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 2: You can beat a quality guy and you can beat him,

708
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 2: kind of making it look easy, to be honest with you,

709
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 2: he was not in any difficulty ever in that fight.

710
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not even sure how many strikes Ostacora

711
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 2: even landed on the guy. Now it leads us to

712
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 2: the next question, BC. And this guy is all over

713
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: social media asking for it, and at first I wasn't

714
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 2: even thinking about it. I'm not sure what I was

715
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: thinking about, but he kind of put it in my mind.

716
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: He did a little inception. BC. The current Bell Tour

717
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 2: Bnsamway champion is one Archiletta. Now what you'll recall it

718
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 2: used to be Hora Gucci because he'd beat called Well

719
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 2: and blah blah blah, had to give it up. Okay, well,

720
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: now it's one Archiletta. Should then next fight BC be

721
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 2: Archie Letta versus Hora Gucci.

722
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: If you can make it, yes, of course. And we've

723
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: seen Scott Cocher and Belatore in the past, you know,

724
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: have a working relationship here to allow this to happen

725
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: and allow the belt to be defended, you know, off

726
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: Belatore turf in a way. But we saw through eight

727
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: rounds against Darian Caldwell that horror Gucci, you know, could

728
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: have an outside case for being the best in the

729
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: world of his weight class. Why not going there against

730
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: the you know, the best available guy you can face

731
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: outside of you know, doing the same thing with a

732
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: UFC Fighter and and and do the same thing to

733
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: Archie Leather and try to make that same statement. Horror,

734
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: Gucci's rising, He's looking great. This would be uh, it'd

735
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: be a war, Luke, it would be a freaking war.

736
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. And also I just sort of feel like, I mean,

737
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 2: ode is a strong word, but if you have to

738
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: give up your titles due to injury on what was

739
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 2: basically your I mean, for the most part your career

740
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 2: hot streak, and then you have to spend fifteen months

741
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 2: away because your return in some ways was probably delayed

742
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 2: by factors outside of your control. Then when you come

743
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 2: back for the first part of that, you not only

744
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 2: beat your previous foe who had gotten a nice win

745
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 2: over you, you do it looking the way he does.

746
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 2: It's not like I can look at the Bandamay Division

747
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 2: in Beltmore and say that it's bad. But like, off

748
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: the top of your head, what do you want to see?

749
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: Like the Patchy Mix rematch, Like not exactly, Like if

750
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about what's the best fight that could

751
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,720
Speaker 2: be made for Rizon, I like their Archillta fight, certainly

752
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 2: on the belt Or side, that's it. And Also it's like, dude,

753
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 2: I mean Jragucci got screwed, not by anyone going out

754
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 2: there and like putting pins in a doll. I mean,

755
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 2: it was just the way in which life went, and

756
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 2: it was unfortunate and it was bad. But if you

757
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 2: have an opportunity in the fight game to do right

758
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 2: by a guy who hasn't done anything wrong. He didn't

759
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 2: pop for ANYPDS, he didn't beat somebody up in a

760
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 2: gas station trying to get a meat grinder at Cumberland Farms.

761
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 2: He didn't do anything. He just got injured, and then

762
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 2: I couldn't come back on a timely kind of way

763
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: for circumstances outside of his control. Well, now he's back,

764
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: Now he's ready. Both sides can benefit. It's good for

765
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 2: MMA when promotions can work together. He had this title previously,

766
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 2: no one beat him for it, and he looks awesome

767
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 2: now again. I don't know exactly what Blator wants or

768
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 2: can do at this point, especially with travel and blah

769
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 2: blah blah, But like the guy didn't get beat for

770
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 2: this title, that's the guy who should be fighting next.

771
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: In the MMA cage or ring of your choice. That

772
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 1: is the inside of your brain, Luke, Okay, beyond your

773
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: refusal to use hair dye under any circumstances. When you

774
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:43,439
Speaker 1: do match up Monday, inside those those chromosomes there looking

775
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: you imagine Peyo tray Yon against Horror Gucci for the

776
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,959
Speaker 1: all worlds. I'm the biggest badass at one thirty five

777
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: title who comes out on top o.

778
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:03,959
Speaker 2: That's a tough one, dude. I mean Horror Gucci, Horra

779
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 2: Gucci can stick and move. I think taking down Yon

780
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 2: would be very difficult. I like Jan, I think Yon

781
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 2: scrambling is crazy underrated. You know, Hora Gucci has a

782
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 2: bit of that Alja Man sterling style, you know, where

783
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 2: you could stick and move from the outside and then

784
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: jump on a submission quickly if you need it. In

785
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 2: many ways, he'd be a similar kind of opponent. I'll

786
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: say this, I I whatever answer you want to come

787
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 2: up with, whether it's Yon, or it's Aldo or al Joe,

788
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 2: whether it's Yon or Hora Gucci, it is very very

789
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: debatable and is very open to interpretation. And it's an

790
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 2: example of why Horra Gucci deserves to be taken seriously

791
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,439
Speaker 2: and in my mind, if he can get that champ

792
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: champ status internationally back again, why he should Do you

793
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 2: have a do you lean a certain way on that one?

794
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: I mean, look, this is this was a small sample

795
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: size to his return, you know, but yet look at

796
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 1: the he had been on before that lost toss the

797
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: car talking about Hora Gucci. Obviously he matches up very well.

798
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: It would be very fun to see. But yeah, there's

799
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 1: a it's almost too much of a seats to even

800
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,919
Speaker 1: have this conversation because we just want to find out

801
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: who the best Bannon weight in the world. Knowing that

802
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: al Joe should get next, that Corey Sanhagen's lingering and

803
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: all that, but uh, he'd be in that fight. I

804
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 1: don't know if I could favor him. I love the

805
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: scrambling of of Yan as well, and I think that

806
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: I think Yan just hasn't shown us how great he

807
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: can be yet, and maybe al Jo will pull that

808
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: out out of him. But uh, you know, I would

809
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: have liked to have seen him beat somebody else for

810
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: the title, so to speak. But uh, everything he's done

811
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: has been gold so far. So uh yeah, that's that's

812
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: a that's a matchup in my dreams, okay, And right

813
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: now it's uh, it's wet.

814
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 2: Let's clean up.

815
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: Somebody cleaning up, clean up. On I'll be C's dreams.

816
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 1: Thank you, uh Luke. I had a Risen related comment,

817
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: did you have more Risen? You wanted to go through

818
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: Rise and Risen Rise.

819
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: Look, the rest of that card was you know, mileage.

820
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 2: Your knowledge may vary on how well you like it

821
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 2: or not. Tchion escal I gotta win or we got

822
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 2: a weird win. Hideo Takordo got a nice one arm

823
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 2: bar over this sort of an Olympic wrestler who is

824
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 2: trying to make his way into mm.

825
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: A tension look good. I saw some wild spinny su shit.

826
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, here's the thing. It's like on Japanese MMA.

827
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 2: I said this one we were getting, you know, killed

828
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 2: for it, more so you than me. I'm not necessarily

829
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 2: the biggest fan of the way in which that. I

830
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,479
Speaker 2: never was the biggest fan of like the wild side

831
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 2: of Japanese Mma. I was more of a fan of

832
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 2: like when MMA was relevant. It was relevant over there,

833
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 2: like with Pride and to an extent, Dream and Songku,

834
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 2: and so for me, the main event was like everything

835
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not here to say that the rest

836
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 2: of the car was bad. In fact, it was quite entertaining.

837
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 2: Although dude, I don't know what happened with the commentary.

838
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 2: Frank Trick sound like he was calling through his iPhone.

839
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 2: It was just a disaster to listen to. It's not

840
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 2: his fault, I guess. I don't know what they had

841
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 2: sent him up with him a technology standpoint, but it

842
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 2: did not work. So the rest of the card is

843
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 2: if you liked it, great, but for me, I could

844
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 2: take it or leave it. It didn't. It didn't. Hamasaki got

845
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 2: the adam Way title with a lexis Or, which was interesting, but.

846
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: Be careful to tread lightley with those comments.

847
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 2: Ah, Listen, that wasn't the only thing that got you

848
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,959
Speaker 2: in trouble guy. It wasn't just not liking Japanese MMA.

849
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 2: But okay, we can move on from that and get

850
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 2: to our next topic, which is BC. So we were

851
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 2: sad because we lost Leon Edwards going to take on

852
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,919
Speaker 2: Kamzat Chimayev, and we thought, well, maybe Lenine will stay

853
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 2: on the card and blah blah blah for that second

854
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 2: of the two fight cards from the first three that

855
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 2: will be a fight Island in a couple of weeks.

856
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 2: Wasn't to be, but they announced a different main event

857
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 2: for that card. BC Michael Kisa is going to be

858
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 2: back one hundred and seventy pounds as he has been

859
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 2: here recently taking on Neil Magni BC. Your reaction to

860
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 2: this fight as a main event first and as a

861
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 2: matchup second, as.

862
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: A main event on its own island, if you'll let

863
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: the pun take its course here, I wouldn't be that excited,

864
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: although it's a very good fight, but to come in

865
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: the already gluttonous week of you know, three monster cards

866
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: in what eight days for UFC in the return to

867
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: Fight Island, this is this real. It's just like another

868
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: treat right there as the Wednesday morning main event, because look,

869
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: it certainly matters in the division. I think it's the

870
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 1: right move overall for Leon Edwards. You've already secured something

871
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: big your mine as well. Like we always said, you know,

872
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 1: you could still fight in this fight. You could still

873
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: take a little bit of a step back and try

874
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: to beat somebody like a Kis and make a larger statement,

875
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: but in some ways you've already made that statement. You

876
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: are who you are. Try to get Hamzat, try to

877
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 1: get something big after this. But this is a good

878
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: ass fight stylistically though, and both need to sort of

879
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: assert themselves. Which of the two is gonna not just

880
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 1: be a top ten guy on a nice little run,

881
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: but get a top five opponent to try to teach

882
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: us more. I tend to like Kisa, you know, off

883
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: off first reaction looking at the matchup, but look Magnique.

884
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: Every time I think he's about to turn that other corner,

885
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: he comes back with a big win. He's technical, he's smart,

886
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: he's he's he never sort of has that next level

887
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: finishing ability in a big fight, but to sort of

888
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 1: reward over hyping him, But you under hype Neil Magne

889
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: left and right going to keep surprising you. So I'm

890
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: certainly not going to count him out. But it's an

891
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: important fight to the future of this top five.

892
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 2: I would say as a matchup, I think it's great

893
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 2: for a Wednesday. I mean, I don't know how much

894
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 2: I would love it on a Saturday or something, but

895
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 2: for the middle of the week, it's an important fight.

896
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 2: In the waltaweight division. Currently the rankings have Kisa sitting

897
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 2: at eight Magnie at nine, so they're right next to

898
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 2: each other. Is usually a sort of a sign that

899
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 2: you're going to get a very competitive, potentially a fun fight.

900
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 2: So it's got important stakes with a division about who

901
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 2: may entern into that top five space. Maybe the winner

902
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 2: takes on wonder Boys. So there's big doings here involved.

903
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 2: Plus a guy like Magni all action, all the time,

904
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 2: never gets tired. A guy like Kissa, I think, has

905
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 2: been just utterly revitalized at one hundred and seventy pounds.

906
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 2: So I like the idea of you know, especially that

907
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 2: this is your backup. This is your backup as a

908
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 2: main event like it shows the UFC roster strength that

909
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 2: they're able to do that. In terms of the fight itself,

910
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: it's a little bit more one note than I think

911
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 2: folks realize. I mean, Magne has a good job when

912
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 2: he uses it, he's well rounded, he's beaten good opposition. Point,

913
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 2: but his takedown defense is fifty nine percent, and Kisa

914
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 2: is averaging nearly four takedowns every fifteen minutes, which is

915
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 2: very high. I usually see that around the one or

916
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 2: two mark for most fighters. His is around the four mark,

917
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 2: which is double what is normal I think for a

918
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 2: lot of fighters at this stage. And so Kisa is

919
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 2: not like crazy on the other end of a reach

920
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 2: disadvantage BC. He's got seventy five to the eighty entr

921
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 2: each advantage of Magni. But it's like, if you have

922
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 2: to ask yourself, how do you see Kisa winning? Is

923
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: it going in there and like bombing on him with strikes?

924
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: Maybe certainly something you couldn't rule out, but that has

925
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 2: not been traditionally the way he gets his best wins,

926
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 2: especially at one hundred and seventy pounds, when he can

927
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 2: lean on these guys and use that frame and fill

928
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 2: out to me, he's gonna have to get that takedown.

929
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 2: Can he get the takedown consistently and then find a

930
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 2: way to the back and then submit this guy in

931
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 2: Whey that he needs to to get the job done?

932
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 2: Not so easy. And in fact, if you look at

933
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 2: the odds on this one, BC, let me sae if

934
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 2: I could pull him up here the odds for this fight,

935
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: they've got Magni as a ever so slight minus one

936
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: twenty five to Kiyasa's plus one oh five, a damn

937
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 2: near a pickham between them. Would you agree with those

938
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 2: odds ever so slight lean towards Magni.

939
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: No, I would favor Kissa, but but it's close. It

940
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 1: is close, Luke, And for a lot of the reasons

941
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: that you mentioned, but a three fight win streaker for Kisa,

942
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: and he certainly looks reborn. I mean, he's now suddenly

943
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: a big welterweight, right because he wasn't making lightweight because

944
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: he was big. Now he feels like he's a big welterweight.

945
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: Do you think he has whatever will be the best

946
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: run of his career still in him? Like does the

947
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: Kisa win here, you know, probably catapults him to a

948
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: top five fight, But is this the run for him

949
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: where he goes as far as he can go? Maybe

950
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 1: his ceiling Luke is to is to get and lose

951
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: or UFC welterweight title shot. Can he get there?

952
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. There's a lot of

953
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: times where I thought guys couldn't, they didn't. There's a

954
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: lot of times where I thought guys couldn't and they did.

955
00:43:56,120 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm less convinced about the certainty of anything.

956
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 2: And I'll say this, I wasn't necessarily blown away by

957
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 2: the win over Content. I mean I was in the

958
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: sense that he had that one arm Kamora, if you recall,

959
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 2: that was pretty impressive and he was very strong, and

960
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: then he beat the fuck out of Diego Sanchez, and

961
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 2: I was like, well, there's not a whole lot to

962
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 2: be said for that one. But then he fought Dosanjos,

963
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 2: who's not necessarily the biggest welterweight, but he's a very

964
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 2: very difficult competitor to go against, and he demolished him.

965
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 2: It was six takedowns he got against him. He utterly

966
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 2: controlled him. And so you could say, Okay, we sawt

967
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 2: We've seen that against colebeat against Kamora. Yeah, fair, But

968
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 2: those guys are championship caliber fighters. For Kisa to be

969
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 2: able to do the exact same kind of thing gives

970
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 2: you a little bit of hope that, wow, maybe this

971
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 2: guy can really do something along those kinds of lines

972
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 2: as well. Magne's gonna be the next best test for

973
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 2: us to declare. And so I can't. I can't say,

974
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 2: because even if you beat Magni, you still have one

975
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 2: or two more fights in front of you a welterweight

976
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 2: that are gonna be tough as shit. Like we just mentioned,

977
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 2: Let's say the winner gets Steven wonder Boy Thompson, Like, dude,

978
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 2: that's a hard fight to win.

979
00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: Even doesn't come down. Is Kisa offensively, he employed enough

980
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 1: employed the wrong word. Do you get what I'm saying?

981
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: Does he have enough offense to win the really big

982
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: fights of his career?

983
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 2: Right? Because to the like for example, Kabebe is not

984
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: well rounded, but what he has is just so dominating

985
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 2: that it doesn't matter. So Kisa not, as you know,

986
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 2: not fully well rounded. I mean, obviously he's got some

987
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 2: stand up skills, but obviously his ground is significantly better

988
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 2: than his stand up. You know, I certainly I think

989
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 2: he is perfectly capable of winning this matchup, and even

990
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: one better than that. But that doesn't mean anything like

991
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 2: what my confidence level. This is a hard fight. This

992
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 2: is a very hard fight, I think. I think Magne's

993
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 2: takedown defense is a real liability. The problem is if

994
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 2: you look at some of other stats here for Michael Kiessa,

995
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 2: his let me pull this up here for you real quickly.

996
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 2: If you look at his overall like striking, which includes

997
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 2: ground striking, his strikes landed per minute are only two

998
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 2: point seven two point excuse me, two point zero seven

999
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: and strikes some sorbs at one point nine five, meaning

1000
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 2: he's got a positive different rental, but just barely. The

1001
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 2: accuracy is thirty nine percent, and that's not a high volume.

1002
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 2: By contrast, strikes landing permitted for Magne is almost at four. Right,

1003
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 2: So Magni not the best takedown defense, but he's gonna

1004
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 2: be very hard to submit. He's probably gonna get back up.

1005
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 2: You know, he's not gonna get tired, and if he

1006
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 2: pumps that jab, he's gonna be hard to get a

1007
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 2: hold of, and he can score points if you're in.

1008
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 2: If you're Michael Kissa, yes, the takedown here is important,

1009
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: but you better do something with it. When you get

1010
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: a better pound on this guy. You better threaten subs.

1011
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 2: You better really make his life miserable down there, because

1012
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 2: if you don't get him out of there, he's gonna

1013
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 2: be there all five rounds and he's gonna find ways

1014
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: to sneak offense from underneath. So, by the way, yeah,

1015
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 2: Magne's got skills in the ground too.

1016
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: And if you're Kiyosa, you don't want the most important

1017
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: punch you landed in your career to have come at

1018
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: a press conference against Kevin Lee. Definitely, I'm a big Mike,

1019
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 1: the MAV guy. I think he has a very underrated

1020
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: tat set and a sport that has very shitty amounts

1021
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: of it. Luke, you're a big ink guy. Mike the

1022
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: mav not bad.

1023
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 2: Right, I have to go back and look at him.

1024
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 2: I can only see them in my mind. That's not

1025
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 2: a fair way to judge them. By the way your

1026
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 2: last three wins or Neil Magni, Lawler Martin and then

1027
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 2: the leech Jing Lang, So both guys coming on three

1028
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 2: fight win streaks should be that's a hell of a

1029
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 2: great great fight. Love that contest, all right, Last, but

1030
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 2: certainly not least here for our Monday SHOWBC topic number five.

1031
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 2: It was made official March sixth. I believe that's the day.

1032
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 2: I have to double check it here, but the light

1033
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 2: heavyweight title is on the line. We knew this was coming,

1034
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 2: but now it's official. Israel Atasianni is gonna be taken

1035
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 2: on Yan Belhovich for the UFC light heavyweight title. I

1036
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 2: want to talk about Glover to Chera in just a second.

1037
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 2: Plus John Jones did an interview with Leacher Report saying

1038
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 2: he's never going back to light heavyweight. We'll talk about

1039
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 2: that in just a moment. BC. And we've kind of

1040
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 2: we've kind of assessed how much we liked this with

1041
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:46,479
Speaker 2: the division. Forget all that for just a moment, break

1042
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 2: this one down. What kind of chance do you give

1043
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 2: Attasanya to become the UFC's next champ Champ.

1044
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: I give him a great chance, And I almost feel

1045
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: like the fear here is that it's so easy to

1046
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: in because of how great he is and sort of

1047
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: the teases he's shown to his as Luke would say,

1048
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 1: his upper bound limits of greatness. This is a style

1049
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: matchup in a difference in speed that I think with

1050
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: you know this potential for hot knife through butter in

1051
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 1: this one, and that's crazy because we always count out

1052
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: Yon Blohoitz, who would have thought at thirty seven he

1053
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: had the type of twenty twenty resent renaissance and the

1054
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: big knockout win over Rays to win the title to

1055
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: begin with. I fear that it's gonna be too heavy

1056
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: once they actually touch gloves, that everyone's going to expect

1057
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: an out of Sonya knockout. But even if it is,

1058
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: you still might get it here, Luke, because if he's

1059
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 1: as great as your ckb hard On tells you and

1060
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: me just having you know, look, this is this is

1061
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: gonna be his year. You know a lot of people

1062
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: are set to have a giant year, right, you know,

1063
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: Hamzat chremaiav. Kevin holland the younger guys looking to bang

1064
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 1: on the door. But I really feel like we're set

1065
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: up that this is going to be out of Sonya's

1066
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: year to finally get the Fighter of the Year honors

1067
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: and cash in and have his biggest one if he

1068
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,240
Speaker 1: goes out there and wins a title in a second

1069
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: division and is willing to, you know, potentially be active

1070
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: in defending both. And what if his second fight of

1071
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: the year is the rematch with Whittaker or what have you.

1072
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: And what if we end twenty twenty one on the

1073
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: road to the potential idea of him fighting Jones at

1074
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: heavyweight and having that grudge match happen. Who knows, you know,

1075
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: will Jones be the heavyweight champion by that point, We

1076
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: don't know. All I'm saying is Ata Sanya's about to

1077
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: do monster things. UFC giving him the opportunity to do

1078
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: that by signing this fight, And I think we're gonna

1079
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: end this calendar year just you know, talking even further

1080
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: about how great this guy is.

1081
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 2: The odds on this one again, for whatever that is worth,

1082
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,919
Speaker 2: they have Atta Sonya at about a minus two seven

1083
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 2: the in Belakhovich at a plus two ten. So they've

1084
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 2: got Attasnya as a clear favorite in this one. Again,

1085
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 2: you may disagree, you may agree, but that's how the

1086
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 2: odds makers are currently looking at it. You're asking me

1087
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 2: my opinion on what I think will happen in the contest.

1088
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 2: We'll have to see. I actually, listen, there's a lot

1089
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 2: of times where Blhovich has been the underdog and came

1090
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 2: out and you know, boxed people's fucking ears off. So

1091
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 2: let that be a lesson to everyone, including me, who

1092
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 2: has been late to the Blakhovich party and may really still.

1093
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: Speed kill and speed thrills Luke. The speed that does

1094
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: here is going to be astronomical.

1095
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 2: And I also feel like, you know, Adasignya just has

1096
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 2: more ways to win, even inside the stand up at

1097
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 2: more ranges than Belkovich. Adosignya has fought as high as

1098
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 2: heavyweight in other combat sports. I don't think the size

1099
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 2: will be that big a difference. I've seen, you know,

1100
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 2: at to sign you up close, U very you know

1101
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 2: a lot of times he's so, yeah, he's wiry, but

1102
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 2: he's he's got a huge frame. But the key for

1103
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 2: me is you know, I do think that Belhovich is

1104
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 2: a little bit more of a difficult tactical puzzle to

1105
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,439
Speaker 2: solve than folks realize. If you try to bear down

1106
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 2: on him, his counterpunching is very good. It'll be interesting

1107
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 2: to see what game plan Adosignya goes with. I wonder

1108
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 2: if he might go with a game plan where he

1109
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 2: kind of forces Blovitch to chase him and then he

1110
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 2: gets to be the counter striker, sticking and moving finding

1111
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 2: away on the outside. If he does that, I think

1112
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 2: his chances to win are actually pretty good. But if

1113
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 2: has to chase down Lohovich, interesting look at Dicey.

1114
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: I mean that's where Blohovitz pulls the upset, when you

1115
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: sort of underestimate him and you start walking him down

1116
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,959
Speaker 1: because you know he has a sneaky counter attack there

1117
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: as we saw what he put on rees to pull

1118
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: the upset. But in your heart of hearts, if Israel

1119
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: wins this, will he fight again at middleweight.

1120
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 2: In the UFC? Yes, I don't think middleweight is that

1121
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 2: hard for him to make again, relatively speaking, And I

1122
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 2: think you know, does he have anything to prove against

1123
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 2: Robert Whittaker? No, I mean, you beat him the first

1124
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,439
Speaker 2: time pretty cleanly. But I think most people would agree.

1125
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if City Kickboxing agrees, but I think

1126
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: most other observers would agree that the renewed version of Whittaker,

1127
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 2: maybe he wins, maybe he doesn't, but he is better

1128
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 2: than the one that Attasignia faced, and so given the

1129
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 2: Oceanic regions growth and what could be on the line,

1130
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 2: if Whittaker could recapture the title in his absence, which

1131
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 2: by the way, Paulo Cost's manager calling for a fight

1132
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 2: for the inter middleweight side in the event, or I

1133
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 2: should say whin Attosignia goes up to two five, which

1134
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 2: I'm I'm not necessarily opposed to that idea. You know,

1135
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 2: if he can get the belt around his waist and

1136
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 2: you see Atta Sonia sort of still standing out there,

1137
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 2: there are ways in which I could see him going

1138
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 2: back down. But I also feel like he's sort of

1139
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 2: chasing at this point the biggest challenge with potentially the

1140
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 2: biggest reward possible that's not one hundred and eighty five

1141
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 2: pounds at the present moment. That's what I would say absolutely.

1142
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: I mean, look that if he pulls this off, if

1143
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: Atasignia keeps taking on these ridiculous challenges and pulls them off. Luke,

1144
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: I mean we're watching an all time you know movement here, right,

1145
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 1: we'll run up the ladder of you know, from from

1146
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 1: nothing just a couple of years ago. Oh that kickboxer

1147
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: to I mean, we're we're in play is a super

1148
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: fight against John Jones probably in a year. I mean,

1149
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: that's in play. I mean he's really setting himself up

1150
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: to have the potential to have go s conversations if

1151
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: he can pull this whole thing off. We have no idea,

1152
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: and that's what's gonna make it fun. But this is

1153
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: a exciting stuff.

1154
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 2: Uh Okay, So now it takes us to a different

1155
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,240
Speaker 2: part of the question, though still on point five here.

1156
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 2: All right, so you want to make this fight, you

1157
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 2: can make it. If you look at the rest of

1158
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 2: that card BC, that UFC two fifty nine March six.

1159
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 2: You got Rackets versus Thiago Santos on that card, Amanda

1160
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 2: Neunez versus Megan Anderson on that card. You got some

1161
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 2: good ass fights on that card. But speaking of Rackets

1162
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,879
Speaker 2: and Santos, that fight has taken place. At two to five.

1163
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 2: Rackach has a win coming off of Smith Santos, a

1164
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 2: loss to Glover to Shiah. Now, what the hell is

1165
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 2: the UFC supposed to do with the guy they gave

1166
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 2: a title shot to in Baltimore back six years ago,

1167
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 2: seven years ago, almost at this point, but has somehow

1168
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 2: found a way to go on a multiple fight winning streak.

1169
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 2: At this point, what should what should happen next for

1170
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 2: the old Glover?

1171
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: I think it's Hee's in too valuable spot right now.

1172
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: He's basically the guy in waiting, the number one contender.

1173
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: I don't think you messed with this, you know. I

1174
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 1: think you sit back and you wait, and you hope

1175
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: that you can have a nice conversation with the UFC

1176
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 1: that says, barring an immediate rematch, stout, Sonya and Blohowitz

1177
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: that if either guy wins, they're getting Glover to share next.

1178
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: And if that's the case, Luke, you don't want to

1179
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,439
Speaker 1: see a guy at this age sit out a while,

1180
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: But that should be worth waiting until at least the summer,

1181
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 1: for if you get this second chance to come all

1182
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: the way back with your you know, your well rounded game,

1183
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: you're smart, you know educated. Turn that he's done in

1184
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: his late thirties, I think you've you've this has become

1185
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,919
Speaker 1: an accidental overnight success, this this second act. He said

1186
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: that I wouldn't risk it by going in there. I mean,

1187
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: you just beat Thiago Santos. What I mean, what are

1188
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: you gonna do? Take on Prochotska. I mean, you've already

1189
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 1: earned what you the best of what you can earn.

1190
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: So hold that lottery ticket and cash it in when

1191
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:36,959
Speaker 1: it's time.

1192
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know how they are about that. Oh,

1193
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 2: you shouldn't wait, You shouldn't wait. Here's the other part

1194
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,320
Speaker 2: that could get interesting. I mentioned you have the Rackets

1195
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 2: versus Santos fight on that card. If Rakish wins, that

1196
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,240
Speaker 2: means he'll have beaten Anthony Smith, who he didn't finish,

1197
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 2: but beat cleanly. And then let's say he beats Thiago

1198
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 2: Santos cleanly, which he may not. He may get knocked out,

1199
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 2: but let's just say he wins that in a very

1200
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 2: sort of clear fashion. Right. If Rackets does that, he'll

1201
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 2: have beaten two people who who fought for the title,

1202
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 2: and one of which took a card off of John Jones.

1203
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 2: They may just skip the line and give Rackets title

1204
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 2: shop b See. So then what do you do if

1205
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 2: you're Glover to share. You just sit around.

1206
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,720
Speaker 1: They're not gonna give them. They can get a word

1207
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,959
Speaker 1: the word. Yeah, yeah, I guess you're right. They would

1208
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: do that in a heartbeat. No. Still, I look, if

1209
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: I'm a gam unless I need the money, right, unless

1210
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,439
Speaker 1: I'm Glover, and I'm like, you know what, who knows,

1211
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,919
Speaker 1: they may screw me anyway, Let's make the most fun

1212
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: fight the biggest money we can do. Maybe that's his attitude.

1213
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 1: He's been in this game a long time. I just

1214
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: would sit him down and say, you know, Glover, first

1215
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,919
Speaker 1: of all, never get the meatball grinded from Cumberland Farms. Dude,

1216
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 1: I don't know what is in that sauce, like like

1217
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: lighter fluid or something. I mean, it was felt like

1218
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: a smoking wet or something.

1219
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 2: Luke.

1220
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,879
Speaker 1: It was just disgusting. I'd say, Glover, don't touch that first.

1221
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: When we live in the same state, we got access

1222
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 1: to the same gas stations. Number two, be smart, wait

1223
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: for the phone to ring. You never know, Okay, you

1224
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: never know. Hold that line, right, Luke. I feel like

1225
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: I'm just talking in at a giant circle, just a

1226
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,760
Speaker 1: full circle of master for Turby speech.

1227
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:04,240
Speaker 2: Yes, perfect time to transition here. If we can. Uh. Okay,

1228
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 2: So those are our five topics. Let's go now to

1229
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 2: where IBC and I aren't asking each other questions, but

1230
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 2: where you, the viewer, the listener, get to ask us questions.

1231
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 2: It's time for dms from Dogs Pop Bop bop all right,

1232
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 2: BC up. First is from Zach Harkness. He asks, am

1233
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 2: I crazy to think that Garcia showed a level of

1234
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 2: hitable in that fight that guys like Tank, Haney and

1235
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:37,280
Speaker 2: Tao can absolutely exploit. We kind of covered it, but yeah, dude,

1236
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 2: I mean, my man's got some defensive issues to work out.

1237
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,280
Speaker 1: To be clear, Yeah, he has some of the cardinal

1238
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: sins that you don't want. He backs up in a

1239
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: straight line. His head is typically coming at you, you know,

1240
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: straight down Broadway and doesn't move enough, and he's walking

1241
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: toward you. He's constantly stalking you. Again. The problem is

1242
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: for all of these guys, yes on paper, Teo, Femo, Jervan,

1243
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 1: maybe even Devon, who I mean, we shouldn't sit here

1244
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 1: and crap on Devin Haating because he had one boring

1245
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: wide win over Eur york A Scamboa. The guy's got

1246
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: all the tools. Those guys should be able to I

1247
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: think the problem and the excitement is can they get

1248
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: to that without getting stopped themselves? Because I think we're

1249
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: content in this. Luke Ryan Garcia is a finisher. That

1250
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: body shot was beautiful and brutal. He seemed two rounds

1251
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: earlier to have Luke Campbell. Sorry, Luke Thomas, he would

1252
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: have had Luke Thomas on Queer Street. There he had

1253
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: Luke Campbell seemingly on the verge of going out in

1254
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: round five. I mean, the guy can frick in podge

1255
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: and when you have sublime speed mixed with accuracy, it

1256
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Look, when I picked Gervonte Davis to knock

1257
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: him out, You're damn right. I would what I also,

1258
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: if I'm Gravonte Davis's can't be prepared that you're gonna fight. Yes,

1259
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: it's going to be fun and it's going to be

1260
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: a fight. That's the gamble right now for Ryan Garcia.

1261
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: Will he stay on the path of being a gunslinger?

1262
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: I kind of hope that he does, because I think

1263
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: that's just the way he's wired. I think he's there's

1264
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: a little old school in that he I mean, look,

1265
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: he's not the guy that's gonna show up at the

1266
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: at the house party and ask for the girl's number, right, who,

1267
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: Ryan Garcia.

1268
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 2: No, I don't think he asks for numbers.

1269
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: No, you know he's gonna go into that party and

1270
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Speaker 1: just take. Okay, I mean he's taking. Look, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: go into your house and take. He's not He's not

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00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: you know, he's not discriminatory in that regard. So uh, yeah,

1273
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 1: you can knock this guy out if you're super early,

1274
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: walk through hell to get there. Let's find out. Let's

1275
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: make these fun fights.

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Speaker 2: I can't I gonna say, I don't have much to

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00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 2: add to it, but the fact that it adds to

1278
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 2: the intrigue of whether he can win is really interesting.

1279
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 2: You know, it's gonna make him more of a draw.

1280
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 2: I think is somewhat debatable. I think some of the

1281
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 2: things that make him a draw aren't necessarily related to

1282
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 2: his lack of defense. But if you are a viewer

1283
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 2: or you care about these kinds of things, the fact

1284
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 2: that he does have some defensive liabilities, as it stands,

1285
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 2: they make the prospect of him winning and losing a

1286
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 2: more precarious and as a consequence, be much more interesting.

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Speaker 1: And not just that, though it endears you to people

1288
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: when you show weakness when you are vulnerable. Why is

1289
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: Anthony Joshua a freaking megastar in England? Right? Yeah, He's

1290
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: got good looks, he can talk, he's homegrown guy, all

1291
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: that stuff. Look his biggest fights. The dude's gotta get

1292
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: up off the deck. The dude's got to go through

1293
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: hell to finish you. There's a relatability, there's a working

1294
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: class thing with that. On the surface, guys like us,

1295
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: we can't relate to Ryan Garcia. You watch that guy

1296
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 1: get off the canvas though, and have to fight his

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00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: way out of trouble. Then suddenly you're like, that's my guy.

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00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: That's my guy now. So it you know, the lack

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00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 1: of defense slash vulnerability can help you from a marketability standpoint,

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00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 1: it can't.

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Speaker 2: All right, from a verified viewer of ours from at

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Speaker 2: Ben Schnetzer. All due respect to Stylebender. I always love

1303
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 2: these intros. They're always like, look, I'm not racist, but

1304
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 2: it's like, if you say all due respect, that means

1305
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 2: some slanders headed his way. So okay, all due respect

1306
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 2: to Stylebender, but has he lost standing in Jones beef

1307
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 2: now that he is moving up to light heavyweight Basically

1308
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 2: as soon as John vacated. It pains me to say this,

1309
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:08,919
Speaker 2: but how is that not a bad look after all

1310
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 2: the trash he talks. I don't understand this argument at all.

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01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 2: John Jones has been up, Yeah, Hondsean. John's been competing

1312
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 2: in the UFC for what over ten years at this point. Okay,

1313
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 2: he just moved up. Now, they moved up at the

1314
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 2: same time. If anything, the level of willingness that Adasanya

1315
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 2: has to go up to light heavyweight much faster than

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Speaker 2: John had to go to heavyweight when there was Kane

1317
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 2: Velaskiez up there. And more to the point, like I listen,

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Speaker 2: We've all been over it a million times. John's doesn't

1319
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 2: love me, but I've been a huge fan of his

1320
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 2: career for a very very long time in terms of

1321
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 2: what he's been able to do. But the reality is this,

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01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 2: his number one nemesis had to come down a weight

1323
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 2: class to face him twice. Light heavyweight was not Cormier's

1324
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 2: natural weight class. He could compete well there, but that

1325
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 2: wasn't where he was best situated he was. We saw

1326
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 2: how much heavier handed he was at above two hundred

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01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 2: and five pounds. So let me get this straight. They

1328
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 2: go up at the same time at a Sonya goes

1329
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 2: up much quicker relative to his run, and the number

1330
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 2: one nemesis that John had had to come down away

1331
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 2: class to face him and Ata Sonia lose his face. Bullshit,

1332
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 2: he loses face? Not at all?

1333
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, a powerful statement driven.

1334
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 2: It's just an absurd argument. I don't understand it at all.

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Speaker 1: Let my cat much a verified viewer who sent that in? Luke, okay,

1336
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 1: what do you?

1337
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 2: I love the viewer. I understand a lot of people

1338
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 2: believe that, but it's just ridiculous. Y'all. Here's Mocho.

1339
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: Bro Hey, Moco in the house. Love that bugger. Look

1340
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 1: at look at the bow tie on that handsome devil.

1341
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 2: I know my wife put it on him. What's up, Mocho?

1342
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 2: You think I'm awesome? You think I'm awesome? Player a

1343
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 2: coolest shit A?

1344
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 1: Well, you got it. You got him gripped by the heartbag.

1345
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 1: He really can't do anything. Luke okay, but get those

1346
01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 1: yams off him. Let the guy breathe a little bit.

1347
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 2: Sorry about that?

1348
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: Go ahead, No, you know, I mean hard to argue

1349
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 1: what you said there, but I don't like though the

1350
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,439
Speaker 1: tone of you know, his biggest emphasis had to come

1351
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 1: down and wait, John had plenty of nemesis. Is through

1352
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame run at two o five that

1353
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 1: he defeated includive.

1354
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 2: Is the best one. He's the best light heavyweight ever.

1355
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: I'm just a spider of all time.

1356
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 2: Luke maybe that too, maybe, oh maybe, no, No, listen, I have,

1357
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 2: if anything, I have been generous about John's accolades, and

1358
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 2: people are like, oh, he did this in terms of

1359
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:31,439
Speaker 2: peds and blah blah. I don't give a fuck about

1360
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 2: any of that stuff. None of that matters to me.

1361
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 1: Booty calls in an Albuquerque intersection. I'm not judging.

1362
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 2: I don't care. I don't care. I'm talking about what

1363
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 2: he can do. If he's a the best life heavyweight ever,

1364
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 2: be maybe your best fighter ever. Right, So there's that.

1365
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 2: But if we're just pointing out a willingness to accommodate

1366
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 2: the challenges that come with moving through weight classes, it's

1367
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 2: a big knock on John's career. He hasn't done it

1368
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 2: until he was in his mid thirties, and he's been

1369
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,479
Speaker 2: in the UFC since he was what twenty one years old.

1370
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just a I don't I don't understand

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01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 2: the argument at all.

1372
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you on that. Hey, uh, I don't know.

1373
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm maybe I'm high on the secondhand smoke of

1374
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:17,439
Speaker 1: your c KB cologne. But Atisanya could enter one day

1375
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 1: a John Jones super fight with the chance of being

1376
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: the goat if he beats him. That's wild to me

1377
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 1: that we're on that road.

1378
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not. It's it's imaginable at this point, and

1379
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 2: not just in this sort of a theoretical way, but

1380
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 2: like you can sort of plot it on a map

1381
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 2: a little bit. All right from Telvin, will you guys

1382
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 2: cover more Rise of I mean, I mean, listen, I

1383
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 2: was the one on the rundown.

1384
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: It's so overplayed. This is I don't hate.

1385
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 2: The listen listen. I've said it before, I'll say it again.

1386
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 2: I was the one who put the rising thing on there.

1387
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 2: I wanted to talk about a BC kind of poop

1388
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 2: poot it whatever, which to me is not the end

1389
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 2: of the world. It was some of the things that

1390
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 2: got BC in trouble. We've been over a million time.

1391
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna rehash it. By the way, if you

1392
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 2: missed Wednesday's episode and you did see BC talk about

1393
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 2: how he really felt about things after all the blow

1394
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 2: up and this is your first time back. You fucked up.

1395
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:10,479
Speaker 2: We don't have to go back over it again because

1396
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 2: you missed it. But okay, we will cover it. Yes,

1397
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 2: I will cover it to the extent that we've Listen,

1398
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 2: people make this argument like it's your job to cover it.

1399
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 2: No it is not. No, it is not showtime. And

1400
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 2: CBS could not give a fuck less if we covered

1401
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 2: rising to the extent we cover it, we cover because

1402
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,440
Speaker 2: we want to and because we think it is relevant.

1403
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 2: So BC, I think this is a fair way to

1404
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 2: answer it. Going forward, to the extent that we think

1405
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 2: it is relevant and Koji Horuguci is quite relevant, or

1406
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 2: to the extent we think it's interesting, we will cover it.

1407
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 2: If we don't, we won't. And that's true for basically anything.

1408
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's the one championship rule, right Well.

1409
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. It's like, oh, so we're gonna start

1410
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 2: covering fucking donk versus you know, you.

1411
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 1: Put at Vitor Belford against Roy Jones in an all

1412
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 1: steroid match. I probably Okay, until then, I'm not gonna

1413
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 1: go yet.

1414
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. I don't want to talk about Jake Paul,

1415
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 2: but sometimes I have to. I definitely don't give a

1416
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 2: fuck about Roy Jones fighting Mike Tyson in a you know,

1417
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 2: in a Patty Kake contest, which.

1418
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 1: Is what it most about, Risen. It was about your

1419
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 1: dumb ass, Luke.

1420
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were slandering me, right.

1421
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I got caught up in the wrong neighborhood

1422
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 1: slander in you. I love everybody. What the hell happened?

1423
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 2: Okay, but it's like, you know, it's your job, No,

1424
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 2: my job. I can tell you. I've looked at my

1425
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 2: contract doesn't say anything about rising In.

1426
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 1: There has a giant US credit for this show.

1427
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 2: Apparently. Yeah, it's just it's just it's eighteen pages, just

1428
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 2: says producer credit over and over again. And I signed that, bitch,

1429
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 2: I will cover any combat sport to the extent that

1430
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 2: I want to and to the extent that it is relevant.

1431
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 2: And rise In twenty six was both of those. But

1432
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 2: if it's not, if it's just a bunch of regional

1433
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 2: level fighters that I don't really care about, no, we

1434
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 2: are not going to cover it. And trust me, no

1435
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 2: one is going to get us in trouble for that.

1436
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 2: It'll be okay. So we'll see.

1437
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 1: Do you want to respond to Kayasaka's tweet.

1438
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 2: Now, what did he send another one?

1439
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 1: No, just the first one he told me.

1440
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 2: I already responded. I told him we were gonna do

1441
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 2: a nice recap, which we did, and uh, I wished him,

1442
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 2: you know all the best.

1443
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 1: Those guys are great, they put on great shows. It's

1444
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 1: the people like that wanted to hang me afterwards.

1445
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 2: Good god, Look yeah, well, I mean it was the

1446
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:25,439
Speaker 2: thing and then the the Mickey Rooney thing you were doing.

1447
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 2: You know, so all right, we've been over it. We're

1448
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 2: not gonna do it again, all right, at r V

1449
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:37,479
Speaker 2: dose ATC I'm sure I'm saying that all fucked up? BC.

1450
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 2: Do you have any thoughts on now that he died.

1451
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 2: I guess he died on Halloween, but he didn't announce

1452
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 2: it until New Year's Eve. The death of m F. Doom,

1453
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 2: the hip hop artist.

1454
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 1: I got more thoughts on Risen twenty six than I

1455
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 1: do this story.

1456
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 2: You don't know anything about MF. Doom.

1457
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 1: Really, I'm not well versed enough to give you a

1458
01:06:58,000 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 1: quality eulogy at the moment.

1459
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if I'm well versed enough to

1460
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 2: give you a quality eulogy either, but I'll try a

1461
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 2: little bit uh. MF. Doom was a guy who in

1462
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 2: the aughts nineties as well, but especially in the aughts,

1463
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 2: he was a rapper, not at first, but eventually he

1464
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 2: put on a Doctor Doom like mask, and you might

1465
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 2: be like, oh, is this some sort of slipknop gimmick. No,

1466
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 2: quite the opposite. I mean slipknot basically turned into like

1467
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 2: a metal band that they used the gimmick to get attention,

1468
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 2: and then they made metal that was extreme but palatable

1469
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 2: to a pretty wide audience. If you look at the

1470
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 2: way in which their music has changed, it would changed

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Speaker 2: to sort of a more mainstream kind of direction, least

1472
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Speaker 2: in so far as metal is concerned. MF. Doom is

1473
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 2: sort of the opposite. He was a rappers rapper, he

1474
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 2: was an artists artist. He made concept albums. He was

1475
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 2: always trying to do very interesting wordplay. He was the

1476
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 2: kind of guy that if you had a hip hop

1477
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 2: friend who was way too into hip hop, they all

1478
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 2: had a favorite MF. Doom song or bar or album.

1479
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 2: And in fact, this sort of magnum opus is Matt Villainy,

1480
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 2: which he had made with a famous producer, and that

1481
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 2: was the one time he'd never reached critical appeal. But

1482
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 2: the guy had an enormous amount of work that he

1483
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 2: had done that was just designed for people who liked

1484
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 2: hip hop. I would say, as an art forum, commercial

1485
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 2: appeal be damned. And so it was interesting when he

1486
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 2: passed away. It was quite sad because you know, MEBC,

1487
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 2: whether you like the music or not, I like artists

1488
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:24,520
Speaker 2: who are not compromising. That he was not a compromiser.

1489
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 2: He made art for art's sake that he wanted to make.

1490
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 2: It sounded like he wanted it to sound the whole

1491
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 2: nine yards. He also worked with zar Face, so shout

1492
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 2: shout out to Inspected Deck and Esoteric who make up Zarface.

1493
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 2: They did an album together with MF. Doom and he

1494
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 2: was exactly that way. So I don't know exactly what

1495
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 2: the cause of his death was only forty nine years old.

1496
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 2: His brother had died in ninety three when they were

1497
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 2: part of a hip hop group and the whole thing.

1498
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 2: So it's sort of a sad trajectory of it all.

1499
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:54,799
Speaker 2: But you want to talk about you know, every artist

1500
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 2: I could see who was into hip hop that has

1501
01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 2: any kind of name was shouting him out as a

1502
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:03,720
Speaker 2: very very very special talent. And that's exactly what he was.

1503
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I certainly remember the mask. It, you know,

1504
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:08,679
Speaker 1: had a life of its own. Look, I just wasn't

1505
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 1: that familiar with the catalog.

1506
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 2: So you know, I mean, I mean, he's not white.

1507
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 2: Why would you be. You know what I'm saying, it's

1508
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 2: not it's not really your thing. You know, that's that's

1509
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 2: We've come to expect that from you. It's okay.

1510
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,600
Speaker 1: So the thing is people are gonna believe you.

1511
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 2: Now. I know, I'm just I'm teasing. I'm not being serious,

1512
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 2: but it's fun to say that. Okay, at underscore Kate Law,

1513
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 2: That's what I'm gonna say. Forget New Year's resolutions? What

1514
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 2: are your New Year's threats? What is a New Year's threat?

1515
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 1: Is that a half field of McCoy type thing? I'm

1516
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 1: not We don't usually do that in Connecticut. We do

1517
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 1: make New Year, we make a threat to start the

1518
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 1: whole new year.

1519
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 2: Off, Luke, What is a threat? Like? I mean, I

1520
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 2: know what a threat is in a basic way, But

1521
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 2: what is a New Year's threat? Like this year I

1522
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:55,560
Speaker 2: promised to you know, fuck up Grandma's who get in

1523
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 2: front of me at the register and they write checks

1524
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 2: in the year twenty twenty one to pay for the grocery?

1525
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 2: Is that? What is that? What a threat with New

1526
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 2: Year's threat would be? Is that what he's talking about?

1527
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, I I don't know. We don't have

1528
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:10,639
Speaker 1: j By the way, it's a no Jay Monday, randomly, right,

1529
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 1: So shout out, there's a Gaff Pierre production. Shout out

1530
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 1: to Gaff, Gaff, have you ever heard of this New

1531
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:15,599
Speaker 1: Year's threats? Gas?

1532
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:17,679
Speaker 2: What do they mean by the question, Geff?

1533
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 1: Get all right? Geff is relaying to us he has

1534
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 1: no idea.

1535
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 2: All right, So who do we want to threat?

1536
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 1: In that regard? I threatened the viewers of this show

1537
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 1: to get our get us up over one hundred k okay,

1538
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 1: because then you're on the road to me getting an

1539
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 1: m K tat and this you know rocket ship. Look.

1540
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 1: I threatened to be welcoming of all mixed martial arts organizations?

1541
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 2: Is calendar year? All right?

1542
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 1: That's more of a resolution. Look, I threaten. You're asked,

1543
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 1: if you get too close to me, I get that thing.

1544
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:52,719
Speaker 1: You know, The thing is if I could just get

1545
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 1: below not just the jawbone, but that that uh, that

1546
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 1: that wizard sleeve you have there. If I could get

1547
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:03,879
Speaker 1: underneath that. I lock in that Adam's apple, Luke, Yeah.

1548
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 2: You don't know how to choke. Do you have a

1549
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:06,919
Speaker 2: new Year's resolution?

1550
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 1: I mean, we all want to get in shape, Luke.

1551
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 1: Is this the year? Yeah?

1552
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 2: It is?

1553
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 1: It is. It is the time. I plan to have

1554
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 1: better haircuts this year. I plan to get in great shampie.

1555
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 2: Right, you ready plan to get haircuts and be ready

1556
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 2: for the beach when it's cut them up season? Yeah?

1557
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:23,759
Speaker 1: Damn right? Okay, No, I have made a resolution myself

1558
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 1: regard I don't know, Luke, when will my old man

1559
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 1: basketball league pick up again? I mean the fall? Maybe? Maybe?

1560
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 1: Maybe if it does, Luke, I'm forty two years old.

1561
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 1: I got one more run in me. Okay. I'm no

1562
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 1: longer showing up at least just to you know, have

1563
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 1: an excuse to eat bad or just to say, man,

1564
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 1: I used to be quicker back in the day. There's

1565
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 1: a little bit left in this tank. I'm gonna pour

1566
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 1: it out all over that court, all right. I sometimes

1567
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 1: I show up just to get into a fight, just

1568
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:52,640
Speaker 1: to feel that energy. Now I'm here, I'm here to

1569
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 1: bring it.

1570
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 2: I'm here.

1571
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 1: I got one. It starts today, Okay, Yeah, you like.

1572
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 2: Are you like Seymour Hirsch And along came Polly, We're

1573
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 2: like Buck's and then it just fucking bricks the shit

1574
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:02,719
Speaker 2: out of the backboard.

1575
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm a little bit more of a I'm slippery,

1576
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'll sweat a lot, I'll

1577
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 1: get up underneath your shoulder. I'll get you in the air.

1578
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:10,679
Speaker 2: Luke.

1579
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 1: It's it's an a one waiting to happen.

1580
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:14,600
Speaker 2: Okay, So no, you're more like Seymour Hoffman, not on

1581
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:16,599
Speaker 2: the basketball court, but later when he was like, dude,

1582
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 2: I short it a little bit before.

1583
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 1: Never never, never trust the fart. Look I think you

1584
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 1: already know that. All right, Yes, thank you?

1585
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 2: All right, Well with that lovely intro, BC, it's time

1586
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 2: for your funny portion of the show. Take it over,

1587
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:30,639
Speaker 2: good sir.

1588
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is what we do. You know what we do.

1589
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 1: We ska with the globe, Luke, for the highs and lows,

1590
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 1: the good and bad and beyond in the world of

1591
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 1: combat sports and whatever else you got. Can we play

1592
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:45,599
Speaker 1: the opening intro gap it is? Have you seen this shit? Yes?

1593
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 1: And it starts in Japan, Luke. I wanted to shout

1594
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 1: out to fine people. Have Risen twenty six. Did you

1595
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 1: see the Kyoji Horigucci celebration after that first round knockout

1596
01:12:55,720 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 1: in the rematch against Asakura. They got the the hot hota,

1597
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 1: but they were popping some bubbly Look at the man

1598
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 1: size of this this bottle that they're about to Uh

1599
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 1: can we just push play? Can we here we go?

1600
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1601
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, look this is how men celebrate. I

1602
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 1: love this, you know what I'm saying.

1603
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:15,640
Speaker 2: Did you have champagne?

1604
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I had breakfast with Wimbledon there. I was

1605
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 1: watching this in my pjs. We yeah, broke out the

1606
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 1: mimosas with Jagucci. Is fantastic, love it.

1607
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 2: I actually don't believe you did that, but okay, all right.

1608
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 1: I like the celebration. We got confetti in there, he

1609
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 1: had a throne, he had I mean, the Risen tile

1610
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 1: is pretty badass too, so yeah.

1611
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 2: I mean also unlike unlike the UFC, uh, they let

1612
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:41,639
Speaker 2: the fighters have fun.

1613
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 1: They do they do, and he had a lot of

1614
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 1: it there. Uh. This wasn't the only though prominent nick

1615
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,679
Speaker 1: martial artists that jerked off a large bottle this week.

1616
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 1: Did you check out Brethren Israel Atasanya here down Under?

1617
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 2: Luke, I think I did see this? Yeah, lord?

1618
01:13:56,680 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right, all right, yeah, thank you, Peter North. Okay,

1619
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 1: that is well done there.

1620
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 2: What is the occasion here he's doing this?

1621
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, but he's very into it, Luke, He's

1622
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 1: very It was like what he did against the cage

1623
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 1: after he stopped Coast I remember that. Yeah, look at

1624
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 1: look at it.

1625
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:15,759
Speaker 2: He's got a white hype man in the back holding

1626
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 2: his belt for him. Yeah, jerk off is he?

1627
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Luke, let's go back to Risen twenty six. People

1628
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 1: think I hate j MMA, but how could I. Did

1629
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 1: you see this guy? This guy's freaking fantastic, Luke, Yeah, yes, right.

1630
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 2: So what is he doing? Like a nineteen forties kind

1631
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:36,719
Speaker 2: of take on things?

1632
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 1: I think it's Yeah, it's like a nineteen fifties diner waitress. Look,

1633
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 1: it's fantastic though, as like a western tie there with

1634
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:46,680
Speaker 1: the string. Yeah, that's great, that's great. What do you

1635
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 1: call that hair do? A pampador a weave?

1636
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:51,680
Speaker 2: So I don't know, I honestly could not tell you.

1637
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 1: All right, Luke, let's move on. Oh we got one more.

1638
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 1: Did you check out? Ren Hiromoto during the introduction was

1639
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 1: hold about our preview have risen twenty six before his fight,

1640
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:05,560
Speaker 1: and uh yeah that was Yeah.

1641
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 2: I saw some people sent that to you on social media.

1642
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was not kind, not kind, but a strong

1643
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 1: tac game from this fella. Nice entrance there. Speaking of entrances,

1644
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 1: your thoughts on King Rye Ryan Garcia going to the

1645
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:21,640
Speaker 1: bold level of coming out on a throne to the

1646
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 1: ring to face, Luke Campbell.

1647
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 2: I mean, didn't Tyson Fury do this recently against Wilder like.

1648
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 1: Mayweather had done it a few times, like you know,

1649
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 1: way back in the past. It's yeah, let's I mean,

1650
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a it's a kind of move

1651
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 1: that you need to back up. He backed it up

1652
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 1: at least, right.

1653
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I mean, if you're gonna go and fight,

1654
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 2: if you're gonna come out this way, you gotta come

1655
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 2: out fighting like a maniac, which you didn't quite do

1656
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 2: it first but eventually did so. Yes.

1657
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:48,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, the keyword here might become talking about this celebration, Luke,

1658
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 1: this is where all the King Rai celebration stops and

1659
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 1: really the slander begins. I love the purity of his celebration,

1660
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 1: but what do you call this dance that him trainer

1661
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 1: Eddie Renault so in father Henry Head. Uh they they

1662
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 1: is that a love swing? Look because I called the

1663
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 1: love swing? What is this? Luke?

1664
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 2: These are not the porn sites that I frequent I

1665
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 2: don't know.

1666
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 1: By the way, did you see that that uh that

1667
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 1: SoundBite of Kate Abdo on the Design broadcast telling said

1668
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 1: that he's got a fantastic sperm.

1669
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 2: That was it's like your jizz is excellent, sir.

1670
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 1: Wo wow yeah wow, presented without comment.

1671
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 2: Wow?

1672
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:35,680
Speaker 1: Okay? Well? Uh speaking of producing new life though, can

1673
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 1: we shot out our MK brethren, the UFC Hall of

1674
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 1: Famer Rashad Evans. I'm the birth him and his wife

1675
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:44,759
Speaker 1: the birth of his son, Solaris Lance Evans. They're gonna

1676
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:48,599
Speaker 1: call him Saul, better call him Sol. A healthy baby

1677
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:51,720
Speaker 1: boy at eight pounds and ten ounces. Shout out to

1678
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 1: the Evans family down there in South Florida.

1679
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 2: Luke. You know, most babies when they're first, first firstborn,

1680
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 2: are not cute, but this one is.

1681
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh yeah, oh yeah, well well done. We're shot

1682
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 1: and company down there. Let's go on, Luke. You hear

1683
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 1: about the new BMX sport. It's called natural selection and

1684
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 1: this guy somehow survived. Oh my god, Luke, what are

1685
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:11,679
Speaker 1: we doing here?

1686
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 2: These are Do you know what they call these here?

1687
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 2: In DC? With these guys who do this? They call

1688
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:18,720
Speaker 2: them this In Baltimore two in Factors of documentary about it,

1689
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:22,680
Speaker 2: they call them twelve o'clock boys because they ride with

1690
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 2: the wheel up like it's twelve o'clock. You know.

1691
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna be calling

1692
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 1: them different things at the morgue, Luke, Okay, you know

1693
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 1: what I mean, They're gonna be calling them baseball glove

1694
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 1: suit after Wow, that is that is a tough way

1695
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 1: to live a life. But then again, you know I

1696
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:41,679
Speaker 1: did go to opening night of the movie The Program

1697
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 1: where they laid in the middle of the road.

1698
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 2: Remember that, Yes, of course I do. Yeah, that was.

1699
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 1: Do you ever try that?

1700
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:49,760
Speaker 2: No, I'm not an idiot.

1701
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:54,799
Speaker 1: Okay, Luke. Speaking of living on the edge, the Poor

1702
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 1: Parenting Hall of Fame has a new entrant for twenty

1703
01:17:57,920 --> 01:17:59,639
Speaker 1: twenty one. Check this guy out.

1704
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 2: Wow, Jesus Jesus Christ.

1705
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:05,639
Speaker 1: Is that a twelve o'clock guy?

1706
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 2: Luke? Wow, I don't even know what to say.

1707
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 1: That's great? All right, Well, Luke, how about we also

1708
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 1: induct this mom for pushing her daughter right in a

1709
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 1: direct path to hell. Luke, this is this?

1710
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 2: Could this family be more dubbed tea? Yeah, they got

1711
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 2: the daughter. They got the daughter careening into.

1712
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 1: Uh shirtless boy celebrating in You've.

1713
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:46,719
Speaker 2: Got two shirtless rug rats no shoes either, by the way,

1714
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:49,719
Speaker 2: running around. The only thing that makes them not dubb

1715
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 2: tea is that the grass is mode, you know, so

1716
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 2: they're a little bit better in that sense.

1717
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 1: But jees, going on at any backyard of my hometown, Luke,

1718
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 1: I can relate definitely, Luke, our tip on Tip touch

1719
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 1: of the Week, I want to sign you back a

1720
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 1: third time cekb's finest check it al out here with

1721
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:08,599
Speaker 1: this white guy.

1722
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:10,720
Speaker 2: All right, Luke, did you not put the tip on

1723
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:12,879
Speaker 2: tip that I sent you from real Madrid?

1724
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 1: No, it came just a bit too late, Luke. I'm

1725
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 1: so sorry. It's a coveted spots to get in and

1726
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 1: this countdown each week.

1727
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 2: But it was such a perfect video.

1728
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 1: And speaking of tips, Luke, I'd love to get you

1729
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 1: in a set of these. What do you think, Luke,

1730
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 1: just for a second, just to see how they clean?

1731
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 2: Why would you ever clean with your fucking fingers.

1732
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 1: I think it's a gag gift, Luke. All right, all right, hey,

1733
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:43,759
Speaker 1: let's celebrate guys like us, old guys wearing pajamas. Right.

1734
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 1: Let check out pajama pants. Dad drop in the hammer

1735
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 1: on his son's basketball game right here. This is fantastic. Yeah, yeah,

1736
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 1: in your face, disgrace. I love that, right.

1737
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 2: I like how the game is shirts versus skins, and

1738
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 2: its own skins playing.

1739
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 1: You got served? Yes, all right, uh, luc Check out

1740
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 1: this other middle ager delivering a facial on this eighth

1741
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 1: grader whose dad is this? This is great. I love

1742
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 1: being this dad right here. Oh, get off me.

1743
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:27,559
Speaker 2: Get off, Yes, dude, he sent him to weight watchers.

1744
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 2: God damn, God damn, and he has a victory lap afterwards. Well, Luke,

1745
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:38,760
Speaker 2: I want to talk about this for a second. Look

1746
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 2: at this dad, just dunking on a fucking eight foot

1747
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 2: rim like the piece of shit that he is. He

1748
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 2: sends Fatty to hell and then and then he keeps

1749
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:49,599
Speaker 2: his arm raised like he's Steph Curry after sixty two

1750
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 2: points against the fucking against the Portland Trailblazers. Worst of all,

1751
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 2: worst of all, Dad has the leg warmers on Dad

1752
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:00,720
Speaker 2: you're playing five year old kids. You don't need to

1753
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 2: keep your legs warm on an eight foot rim to

1754
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 2: play this coddler.

1755
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:06,680
Speaker 1: In this game, there's like two girls in it. This

1756
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 1: is great, Luke. But Luke, as we're finding out in

1757
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 1: this clip, not all white dad dunks should be celebrated.

1758
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:15,599
Speaker 1: Check out Sammy Hagar here in the outdoor court. Would

1759
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:17,880
Speaker 1: you leave the handicapped kid alone? I mean, what is

1760
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 1: going on here? Look? It gave him a tea bag?

1761
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 1: What are we doing here?

1762
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 2: I mean, has it he suffered enough? Has it he

1763
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:31,720
Speaker 2: suffered enough? On am?

1764
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 1: That's not That is not good. Alright, Hey, let's go

1765
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:36,639
Speaker 1: out of the outdoor trampoline. We always get some good stuff.

1766
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:40,559
Speaker 1: Luke jumping into twenty twenty one. Like this guy right

1767
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 1: here check this out.

1768
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 2: And the dog's like, okay, dude, what's up? Dude? Don't

1769
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 2: these guys know to do this with a trampoline you

1770
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 2: have to have another person on the trampoline and they

1771
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 2: have to slingshot you. When you do, you jump up

1772
01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:06,680
Speaker 2: and then they hit it right before you come down

1773
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:07,639
Speaker 2: and they send you flying.

1774
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, ain't you watch slam ball before? Come on?

1775
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 2: Right? Ah, this is me taking off in my career BC.

1776
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 2: Look at I'm gonna be an media guy.

1777
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I found your weightlifting future. Check out Toronto Argonaut's

1778
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:27,680
Speaker 1: CFL player Jake Reinhardt doing squats with a bucket of

1779
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 1: concrete in his front yard shirtless during the snow weather. Luke,

1780
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:31,880
Speaker 1: this is totally you.

1781
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:34,600
Speaker 2: Any reason why he's not squatting below parallel?

1782
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't, I don't speak jerk or what's

1783
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 1: the other one?

1784
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he least doesn't have a well I can't

1785
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 2: say what is normally called, but he doesn't have a

1786
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 2: pad for his shoulders because he has correctly racked the weight.

1787
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 2: So good job on that.

1788
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 1: Bit Nippoli out there though, for this, Luke, would you

1789
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:53,720
Speaker 1: do this in the winter as well? Like, like, do

1790
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 1: you do you get snow in DC? I don't know

1791
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 1: what your life.

1792
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 2: Is not like you guys in Connecticut, but we get snow. Yeah?

1793
01:22:59,240 --> 01:22:59,559
Speaker 2: All right?

1794
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 1: Would you do an outdoor workout in this weather?

1795
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 2: I mean for the gram? Sure?

1796
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:07,799
Speaker 1: Okay, okay? Will you will at any point in twenty

1797
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 1: twenty one you feel comfortable enough to take off the

1798
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 1: lifting shirt and post an IG video of you topless weightlifting?

1799
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:16,879
Speaker 2: Yeah? Maybe I'm all considerate.

1800
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I got those suns out guns out

1801
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 1: from Luke Thomas. Okay, speaking of weird training techniques, Luke,

1802
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:27,719
Speaker 1: this red hot heavy bag is fire right where it's good.

1803
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 1: What fight is this guy preparing for?

1804
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:33,759
Speaker 2: This guy like cheated on his wife, beat his kids,

1805
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 2: robbed a bank, and then got a diagnosis he has

1806
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 2: terminal cancer and he's like, I'm going to hell fuck it.

1807
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:40,679
Speaker 2: Just gonna get.

1808
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 1: Ready, Yeah, just get ready. It's probably like the last

1809
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:45,559
Speaker 1: week before jail on some d y where you like yeah,

1810
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:47,800
Speaker 1: just like yeah, yeah, I mean you gotta you gotta

1811
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:51,679
Speaker 1: prepare somehow. All right, Luke, here's a little teapot that's

1812
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:55,560
Speaker 1: shortened stout. There is the head and there is the

1813
01:23:55,560 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 1: the other head. Uh, which would you drink out of this? Luke?

1814
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 2: My man needs to see a urologist. Bad. He's peeing

1815
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 2: all over himself. The flow is not strong.

1816
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 1: Yeah alright, Uh, I want to see the worst backflip

1817
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 1: of tempo of all time. Luke, We're already off the rails.

1818
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:23,640
Speaker 1: Let's keep it going. Check out this party, oh parties overlook.

1819
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 2: You know what this is and here's yeah this is listen.

1820
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 2: Let me explain something to you. This is what you

1821
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 2: get for doing this in an above ground pool. Dub

1822
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 2: T boredis shit? O god, And look at that water, dude,

1823
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:39,879
Speaker 2: what is that water from? I mean, could it be greener? Honestly?

1824
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 2: Could you have more bacteria in there? This is work.

1825
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 2: This is where the coronavirus came from. Fuck woo Han China.

1826
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 2: It came from this above ground dub t pool.

1827
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:51,360
Speaker 1: That could be true. Hey, Luke, you know, anything can

1828
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:53,760
Speaker 1: happen in regional Mma. Check out our regional clip of

1829
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 1: the week. You never know. Somebody can come through the ground.

1830
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 1: You can see a double knockdown. Check out this battle.

1831
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:00,000
Speaker 1: This is great.

1832
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:04,560
Speaker 2: Oh double knockdown.

1833
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 1: Yes, into an arm bar, into the arm bar, hammer,

1834
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 1: fist finish. Shades of Mitrione Fador here.

1835
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 2: Right, dude, this is It's like Carlos Newton Matt Hughes,

1836
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:19,760
Speaker 2: only pathetic.

1837
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:24,720
Speaker 1: Yeah in fat, yeah and very fat. All right? Rolling on, Hey, Luke,

1838
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 1: Scorpion King. Auditions are going well for the remake. Uh first,

1839
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:33,640
Speaker 1: this guy smelling his own shoe before Uh yeah.

1840
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 2: My daughter does that. She thinks it's funny.

1841
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 1: Oh she doesn't do that, Luke, she won't. She won't

1842
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 1: walk off that guy will never.

1843
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 2: Is this is this the guy? Is this the guy

1844
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 2: that the Sammy Hagar dunked on? Just a few clips again?

1845
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 1: Well yeah, this was the before and that was the after. LuSE, Luke,

1846
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 1: Let's move on here. There's nothing worse than a self

1847
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 1: induced scorpion. I don't know if I can show these

1848
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 1: as many as I have on this because this is

1849
01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 1: pretty sad. Luke, I don't think these guys are walking

1850
01:25:59,240 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 1: away from this.

1851
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,639
Speaker 2: BC. I can't believe they're all white.

1852
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:07,760
Speaker 1: Oh god, we got we got one more for you.

1853
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:12,880
Speaker 1: Don't mix alcohol and scorpions, Luke. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,

1854
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 1: don't good park.

1855
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, someone needs to uh, someone needs to like

1856
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 2: photoshop Undertaker like on top of her, you know what

1857
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:27,560
Speaker 2: I mean, doing his thing. What was his special.

1858
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 1: Move called tombstone pipe?

1859
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, tombstone pile driver. That's right. Get one of those

1860
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 2: and just you know, like because otherwise, but you know what, dude,

1861
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 2: she's white. I mean, this is a this is a

1862
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 2: rite of passage that has to happen for young whites

1863
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:44,280
Speaker 2: in their twenties. They have to go and disfigure themselves

1864
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:48,759
Speaker 2: through modello lights and uh and and beast.

1865
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 1: Look you ever. You remember that eighties album called Diver

1866
01:26:53,120 --> 01:27:00,720
Speaker 1: Down from Van Halen vaguely Yes, girls, huge fan, Luke,

1867
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to, I mean, justn't get the the right.

1868
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 2: You know what. It's actually better than I thought it

1869
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 2: was gonna be. I thought it was gonna be like

1870
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:11,040
Speaker 2: a Greg lu Gain a situation where she hits her

1871
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:11,639
Speaker 2: head on the board.

1872
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:16,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that your score, Look, judge, Judge Thomas.

1873
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, I'm not gonna fat shame her

1874
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 2: ten out of ten. Fuck you.

1875
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:23,639
Speaker 1: I got one more for you, Luke. Check out what's

1876
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 1: going on in India these days.

1877
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:25,679
Speaker 2: Uh.

1878
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 1: So there's a guy who pulled over in the blue

1879
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 1: shirt there to take a whiz, right and uh and

1880
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:35,800
Speaker 1: I think he's now refreshing himself.

1881
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:44,240
Speaker 2: I you see, I'm gonna do this to you. I'm

1882
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:45,800
Speaker 2: gonna piss in my hand and then throw it in

1883
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:47,800
Speaker 2: your face. And I'm gonna tell you I'm refreshing you.

1884
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 1: Oh, I know. R Kelly's loving this. This guy has

1885
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:55,720
Speaker 1: no shame whatsoever, Luke, I don't know what is I mean,

1886
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 1: is there like a drought there and there's no bottle

1887
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 1: of water? I mean, yeah, put that thing away, all right? Hey,

1888
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 1: back at it. Let me get back in traffic there.

1889
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 2: Okay, good thing he didn't wash his hands too. That's nice.

1890
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:15,639
Speaker 1: That was supposed to be the end of the ship

1891
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 1: this week, but we've uh too bad. Jay's not here

1892
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 1: because check out what we found off MTV.

1893
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:24,760
Speaker 2: Luke, before you play this, hold on, set this up

1894
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 2: and are we able to hear the audio or not?

1895
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:28,720
Speaker 1: Gaff? Can you went?

1896
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:32,800
Speaker 2: All right? The guy, the guy in the middle is Jay,

1897
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:35,160
Speaker 2: not the not the former VJ and not the dude

1898
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:36,280
Speaker 2: on the right, but the one with the show.

1899
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 1: This is Prime J. This is J. Like show up

1900
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:41,600
Speaker 1: at Times Square for TRL and wait in line and

1901
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 1: hope to get on a game show at MTV Prime

1902
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:46,240
Speaker 1: like no escape Jay.

1903
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:48,599
Speaker 2: Right, Listen, you might want to get a blanket from

1904
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 2: all the douche chills you're about to get from watching this.

1905
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 1: All right, Dave Holmes, take it away.

1906
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:56,719
Speaker 2: What are you gonna perform for us? And it's gonna

1907
01:28:56,720 --> 01:28:58,479
Speaker 2: be me Jon.

1908
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 1: Let me hear you, guys, he's.

1909
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:05,879
Speaker 2: Gonna trying to act like sex symbol. Get up, yeah, let.

1910
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:14,240
Speaker 1: Go come on New York you might be let ba

1911
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:15,040
Speaker 1: let me.

1912
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:20,639
Speaker 2: See the mark up go.

1913
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:30,560
Speaker 1: I remember you don't name I din't do.

1914
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:35,680
Speaker 2: But that's why. Let's got me a little thing. I

1915
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:40,320
Speaker 2: do what Sha never sens enough for you.

1916
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 1: You don't want to lose me again, Let's go. I'm

1917
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 1: not like that. She'll be ready, dely what gets a dumb.

1918
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 2: Some lesty, why it's gonna be made.

1919
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:14,000
Speaker 1: Let's playing before going, he's gonna move on. I mean, look,

1920
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:18,160
Speaker 1: his pursuit of fame, not as you know, not what

1921
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:21,840
Speaker 1: he's grabbed. His pursuit of fame knows no limits.

1922
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:25,040
Speaker 2: Correct. You know, I've never wanted someone to get the coronavirus,

1923
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 2: and I'm not about to start. But if I did,

1924
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:30,840
Speaker 2: I think I know who I'd want to get it.

1925
01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 1: I was hoping you were gonna say, I never wanted

1926
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:37,840
Speaker 1: somebody to have their moment as much as I want

1927
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 1: jay er Own to have his right.

1928
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:41,639
Speaker 2: First of all, he's got jeans on that are from

1929
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 2: somebody who lost like one hundred pounds.

1930
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:45,800
Speaker 1: That was a style and you know it was ok.

1931
01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 2: And then his friend has cargo pants, which okay, I

1932
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:49,679
Speaker 2: wore cargo pants in the ats as well.

1933
01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:52,160
Speaker 1: I can't hate too much to a job interview once.

1934
01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:53,599
Speaker 1: That was probably not a good idea.

1935
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, cargo pants, what job will you fucking digging ditches?

1936
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:56,920
Speaker 2: What are you doing?

1937
01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:58,559
Speaker 1: I don't have to explain my life to you, but

1938
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:01,759
Speaker 1: uh yeah, so shout out to Jay. He went for it. Okay,

1939
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:03,400
Speaker 1: he went for it. They liked it. Well, look a

1940
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 1: look at you got a nine there right called a

1941
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 1: niner right now?

1942
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:09,479
Speaker 2: Was this before or after he allegedly knocked out Ryah Hall?

1943
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:12,760
Speaker 1: This was before? This was I think this is like

1944
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:16,320
Speaker 1: Rutgers Jay, right, you know, college graduate trying to you know,

1945
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:19,200
Speaker 1: like chasing the muff around, you know what I mean?

1946
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:21,800
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, that's prime j right there.

1947
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:23,960
Speaker 2: I mean, here's the thing, here's the truth about life.

1948
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:28,440
Speaker 2: I've done things equally embarrassing, but probably not on television

1949
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:31,280
Speaker 2: and probably not sober. So you know, I got a

1950
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:34,000
Speaker 2: little bit of wiggle room in terms of how culpable

1951
01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:36,960
Speaker 2: I am as a human being. Jasus jumps. I mean,

1952
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:39,200
Speaker 2: I mean, once more into the breach, dear friends. He

1953
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 2: just loves it.

1954
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:42,920
Speaker 1: He's gonna have a lot of explaining to do if

1955
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 1: he ever returns to the show.

1956
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 2: Wow, you think he banged that friend of his?

1957
01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:54,200
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be really mean, but the chemistry

1958
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:57,519
Speaker 1: between them was it was undeniable. I mean, it was

1959
01:31:57,600 --> 01:31:58,320
Speaker 1: you know it was.

1960
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I'm okay with you got you got to

1961
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:02,280
Speaker 2: live your life the way you want to live it.

1962
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, howd up?

1963
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:05,839
Speaker 1: And it just admitted already?

1964
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? Did they bang? Is the is the operative question? Oh?

1965
01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:10,200
Speaker 1: Wow? Yeah?

1966
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1967
01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:14,519
Speaker 1: He You know he's at Best Prime. Jay's a dime

1968
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:15,960
Speaker 1: store Timberlake.

1969
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 2: Right, uh, dime store. I'm not even sure. He's the

1970
01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:21,160
Speaker 2: trash on the curb.

1971
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:24,120
Speaker 1: Oh, come on, frosted tips. He he went for it.

1972
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:26,240
Speaker 1: You know he's in shape too. Shout out to j

1973
01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:29,320
Speaker 1: all right, odds and ends time. Hey, look, can we

1974
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:31,519
Speaker 1: got a welfare check on Mike Perry? I don't say

1975
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:34,920
Speaker 1: that laughing. Did you see the live Instagram story you

1976
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:38,320
Speaker 1: put out with the broken window and the cut ankle

1977
01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:39,479
Speaker 1: and the e R.

1978
01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:42,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he needs he needs help. I don't even know

1979
01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:44,240
Speaker 2: what the situation is. I hope he's okay. Obviously, he

1980
01:32:44,240 --> 01:32:48,599
Speaker 2: would never wish bad on him, but he's got issues, bro,

1981
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:51,800
Speaker 2: He's been had issues, but they're not getting any better

1982
01:32:52,040 --> 01:32:54,760
Speaker 2: that I can tell, unfortunately. So I hope he's okay.

1983
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:56,080
Speaker 2: It's all I can say. I hope he's okay.

1984
01:32:57,040 --> 01:32:59,760
Speaker 1: Uh my real me too, and look and and you know,

1985
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:05,479
Speaker 1: I just like by somebody like me who's been sent

1986
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:11,000
Speaker 1: to hell by Mike Perry but really enjoys the ridiculousness

1987
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:12,639
Speaker 1: of him to a limit, right to.

1988
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:15,160
Speaker 2: A degree, right, like y see, I don't.

1989
01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 1: It's like going to the zoo and like there's a

1990
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:19,559
Speaker 1: horrible thing. But it's like, you know, it's like going

1991
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:21,600
Speaker 1: to the zoo see the exotic peacock, and you know

1992
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:23,760
Speaker 1: you're like, I just gotta go up close and see it.

1993
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:27,880
Speaker 1: Am I am I enabling him?

1994
01:33:28,479 --> 01:33:32,080
Speaker 2: By by ian dude? No, No, of course you are.

1995
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:35,000
Speaker 2: Everyone is. You know, everyone is enabling him. Like if

1996
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:37,799
Speaker 2: there were real consequences for actions when he was dropping

1997
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:39,880
Speaker 2: the N word, they would have done something about it. Now, again,

1998
01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:41,880
Speaker 2: there might be some that to be too serious, but

1999
01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:45,160
Speaker 2: there might be some actual challenges related to independent contractors

2000
01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 2: and what you can do to them and not given

2001
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 2: everything else you're doing to them in terms of that

2002
01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:52,000
Speaker 2: being that versus an employee and some of the tension

2003
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:53,760
Speaker 2: that that creates. But you know when they let when

2004
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:55,640
Speaker 2: the leos, he just let him rock doing that, Like

2005
01:33:56,240 --> 01:33:59,320
Speaker 2: that's a That's not the only reason why this has happened. Now,

2006
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:01,360
Speaker 2: it's probably a many other things, but it was very

2007
01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:06,320
Speaker 2: emblematic of their You know, I don't think they want

2008
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:08,360
Speaker 2: bad things to happen to them, but are they going

2009
01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:12,080
Speaker 2: to take real steps to have a guy associated with

2010
01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 2: their brand have to account for his behavior. No, not

2011
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 2: in any kind of substance.

2012
01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:19,200
Speaker 1: Well, Paul Daly got let go pretty quick. Remember that.

2013
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:22,680
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean there are times consistent and times inconsistent,

2014
01:34:22,720 --> 01:34:27,000
Speaker 2: so we'll just to say they're always inconsistent. But uh, yeah, dude,

2015
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 2: if you let guys just do what they want to do,

2016
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:31,720
Speaker 2: and there's no one ever asking people to mind their

2017
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:35,000
Speaker 2: behavior or get help for things, you know where they

2018
01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:36,479
Speaker 2: might have submit, I mean that's really the issue. The

2019
01:34:36,479 --> 01:34:38,920
Speaker 2: issue is not to punish him so much as it

2020
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:41,879
Speaker 2: is to like, if he's doing things because he has issues,

2021
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:43,559
Speaker 2: then let's get to a position where we can help

2022
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:46,000
Speaker 2: him with his issues, and, by the way, to let

2023
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 2: USU off the hook a little bit. If that person

2024
01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:50,640
Speaker 2: doesn't want it, there's only there's nothing UFC can do.

2025
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 2: Like they have to want that as well. But if

2026
01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:54,600
Speaker 2: you want to be in business with this guy, you

2027
01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:56,800
Speaker 2: might have to mandate some more some things I don't

2028
01:34:56,880 --> 01:34:58,720
Speaker 2: on a stricter basis is what I would say. So

2029
01:34:58,840 --> 01:34:59,439
Speaker 2: I hope he's okay.

2030
01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to see him end up in the

2031
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:03,120
Speaker 1: cage across from a war machine. You know. You know

2032
01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:05,639
Speaker 1: where I'm going with that, all right? My real odds

2033
01:35:05,680 --> 01:35:08,280
Speaker 1: and ends this week is just what Dezonne Boxing seems

2034
01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:10,400
Speaker 1: to have planned for early next year. We know Canelo

2035
01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:13,559
Speaker 1: is wants a busy schedule coming back against you know,

2036
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:16,519
Speaker 1: the mandatory in February, maybe Billy Joe Saunders in this

2037
01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:19,080
Speaker 1: in May, and then set up for a third fight,

2038
01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:21,879
Speaker 1: So that would take the idea of Triple G Canelo,

2039
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:25,720
Speaker 1: you know, being next off the front burner. So it

2040
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:28,439
Speaker 1: looks like, you know, all reports coming out. Mike Coppinger

2041
01:35:28,479 --> 01:35:29,880
Speaker 1: of the Athletics seems to be on top of this

2042
01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:33,240
Speaker 1: that the Zone could be angling Ganadi Glufkin in his

2043
01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:39,120
Speaker 1: IBF middleweight title in the direction of Haimi Mungia and Luke.

2044
01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:44,920
Speaker 1: This has all the makings to be your fight of

2045
01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:48,120
Speaker 1: the Year in twenty twenty one, a savage action brawl,

2046
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:51,519
Speaker 1: because look, here's the deal about Triple G. Like when

2047
01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:53,559
Speaker 1: he's at his prime, he was a destroyer. He not

2048
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:56,599
Speaker 1: only did have the ridiculous power, but the amateur craft

2049
01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:59,400
Speaker 1: behind it, cutting off the ring, all that he still

2050
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:02,559
Speaker 1: got that he's just a step slow, and his biggest

2051
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:04,280
Speaker 1: fights from here on out, I think are gonna They're

2052
01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:05,400
Speaker 1: gonna a lot of them are gonna be like the

2053
01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:08,640
Speaker 1: dear Vinchenko fight. They're gonna be absolute wars at a

2054
01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:12,040
Speaker 1: high skill level, but wars. You put him in there

2055
01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:13,800
Speaker 1: with a guy who does not take a step backward

2056
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:17,360
Speaker 1: and Jimi Mangia who's young, hungry and will fight to

2057
01:36:17,479 --> 01:36:22,040
Speaker 1: the finish regardless of consequences. This is this could be special,

2058
01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:25,200
Speaker 1: like this could be a tell your friend's special fight

2059
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:28,800
Speaker 1: that they're planning up for the first quarter a fight.

2060
01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:31,599
Speaker 1: Fans fight, hardcore fans fight. I'm ready. We should watch

2061
01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:33,639
Speaker 1: this together. We should get get your popcorn ready, let's

2062
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:34,080
Speaker 1: do this thing.

2063
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:37,160
Speaker 2: I had no ideas even being potentially considered. I gotta

2064
01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:40,040
Speaker 2: tell you, I'd say that is a hell of a fight.

2065
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:41,599
Speaker 2: If they make that one, I'd rather see that one

2066
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 2: than the third fight with Knelo, to be honest with you.

2067
01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:47,479
Speaker 2: It's much more. It's newer. Obviously, it's different, intriguing. I

2068
01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:50,080
Speaker 2: would love to see that. That'd be awesome for my

2069
01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:53,320
Speaker 2: odds and ends. March twentieth. It is I think either

2070
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:56,960
Speaker 2: announced or reported. It's something reported that Kevin Holland, who

2071
01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:58,960
Speaker 2: was not the Fighter of the year, but maybe you're

2072
01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:00,720
Speaker 2: a runner up or on a well mention, depending on

2073
01:37:00,760 --> 01:37:02,639
Speaker 2: how you wanted to rank. It. Certainly a guy who

2074
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:04,600
Speaker 2: did a lot with five wins in the course of

2075
01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:07,360
Speaker 2: like seven months or something. His next fight will be

2076
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:11,519
Speaker 2: in March, first quarter of twenty twenty one against Derek Brunson.

2077
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:14,040
Speaker 2: You gotta love this fight for a couple of reasons. One,

2078
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:17,960
Speaker 2: Derek Brunson is something of a hype killer. I mean,

2079
01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:20,639
Speaker 2: no one is talking about Edmund Schabasi and at all

2080
01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 2: after that loss to Derek Brunson. So that was a

2081
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 2: really big moment, not merely a negative way for Shabazi

2082
01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:29,080
Speaker 2: but in a very positive way for Brunson. Plus, it's

2083
01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:32,040
Speaker 2: very intriguing. It's sort of new, up, up and coming

2084
01:37:32,040 --> 01:37:34,720
Speaker 2: guy versus sort of older vet, but still as we

2085
01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:37,439
Speaker 2: saw against Shabazi and a very i would say, the

2086
01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:41,120
Speaker 2: best version of him that we've ever seen. Derek Brunson

2087
01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:42,880
Speaker 2: always had a ton of athletic talent and a ton

2088
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 2: of ability, but sometimes made weird decisions, like, for example,

2089
01:37:45,080 --> 01:37:47,719
Speaker 2: in the Whitaker fight, but he seems to have iron

2090
01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:49,680
Speaker 2: some of that out. That's a very tough test for

2091
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:52,680
Speaker 2: Kevin Holland Brunson. It's a great opportunity to pick up

2092
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:55,000
Speaker 2: some of that hype that Holland is rising with. And

2093
01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:58,280
Speaker 2: I love it. I love the matchmaking they've got. Current

2094
01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:01,519
Speaker 2: odds have Holland as a slight favorite. That could change

2095
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:04,639
Speaker 2: by fight time March twentieth, Brunson versus Holland. It's believed

2096
01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:07,559
Speaker 2: it's going to headline a UFC Fight Night card, so

2097
01:38:07,960 --> 01:38:09,920
Speaker 2: be on the lookout for that. Yeah, good stuff.

2098
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:12,439
Speaker 1: That's that's fireworks. That's badass. And you know if I

2099
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:14,960
Speaker 1: if I'm brunt and I keep the Cisco haircut. Seriously,

2100
01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:18,280
Speaker 1: it seems it changed him. It worked. I mean he's

2101
01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:20,560
Speaker 1: to what you're saying. He's taking his foot off the

2102
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:23,800
Speaker 1: guests just enough to bring in the right wrinkles and

2103
01:38:24,240 --> 01:38:26,679
Speaker 1: you know, train with the right people and really get

2104
01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:28,720
Speaker 1: down to things like game plans. He had been it

2105
01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:31,360
Speaker 1: seemed more of a reactor. Yeah, I mean you mentioned

2106
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:33,240
Speaker 1: the Winnaker fight. He just went balls out and tried

2107
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:36,479
Speaker 1: to win by first round KO and didn't care. This

2108
01:38:36,560 --> 01:38:38,519
Speaker 1: is the right test at the right time. Love it,

2109
01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:40,320
Speaker 1: love it, love it.

2110
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:42,760
Speaker 2: It's great? All right? Do you see any final thoughts

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Speaker 2: before we wrap up here?

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Speaker 1: Look, you know this is our first real show of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. We did a rock recap last Friday

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Speaker 1: on actual New Year's Day, but was pre recorded. Let's

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Speaker 1: do big things this year, Luke, what do you think

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Speaker 1: I mean? Look, twenty twenty was massive for the MK brand.

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Speaker 1: I think it exceeded the expectations that either of us

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Speaker 1: had originally. You know, you joined the team full time.

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Speaker 1: We expanded, We did a lot of cool stuff we did.

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Speaker 1: You know, we didn't get gone on the road much

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Speaker 1: because of Corona, but we did some cool stuff. We

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Speaker 1: did a damn donumentary. How do we top this in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one?

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Speaker 2: On the MK side, I think one, we need to

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Speaker 2: hit one hundred K this year, which we will, but

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Speaker 2: we need to make sure it happens, and then anything

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Speaker 2: else beyond that for us our subs number one, number two.

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Speaker 2: I want to do more with showtime boxing and I

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Speaker 2: want to see what this show can do. You know,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how soon we're going to get on

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Speaker 2: the road. Your February twenty twenty one prediction BC was wrong,

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Speaker 2: but my prediction about you know, several years was also wrong.

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Speaker 2: And the good news is, I do think that we

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Speaker 2: might have crowds in the United States or North America

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Speaker 2: by the end of the year. I mean, certainly, that's

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Speaker 2: no guarantee. When I say crowds, I mean like not

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Speaker 2: the six thousand and a fifty thousand seeded venue, you know,

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Speaker 2: like reasonably full. We might have that by the end

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Speaker 2: the year. So I'm hoping that we get that and

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Speaker 2: that you and I can take the show and do

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Speaker 2: what it's actually supposed to do. The podcast is fun,

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Speaker 2: it's great, but the show is designed to be a

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Speaker 2: post fight show, live on location. It's designed to be

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Speaker 2: like a show that we can have people live attend.

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Speaker 2: It's supposed to be a lot of different things. We

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Speaker 2: just haven't been able to do that by virtue of

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Speaker 2: you know, the old COVID. So hopefully we can get

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Speaker 2: that under control enough to bring Morning Combat to bear

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Speaker 2: in the way that it's designed to be brought to bear.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully we'll get a new merch launch going. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: we can reach out to our international friends and outfit

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Speaker 1: them just the same. And look, we've you know, we've

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Speaker 1: left around and experimented with interviews, done some big stuff.

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Speaker 1: Got your interview with Poorier. I think twenty million people

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Speaker 1: have watched it by now.

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Speaker 2: Lou not quite almost three hundred k, but not quite.

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Speaker 1: So Yeah, let's get let's continue to push man, let's

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Speaker 1: continue to uh and let's do some fun stuff on

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Speaker 1: the side, like I don't think, you know, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't know I could. I could bury horror with

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Speaker 1: myself and the decision makers on this show all day.

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Speaker 1: Well I do it to the production staff. Depends on

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Speaker 1: the week and hour, but I will say, Luke that

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Speaker 1: you know, we've got a formula here that you can't reproduce.

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Speaker 1: So let's, you know, let's consummate together and reproduce plenty

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Speaker 1: great episodes.

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Speaker 2: All right. We will be like Jay and his friend

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Speaker 2: on stage at some MTV show that was short lived

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Speaker 2: and stupid, but we will make it even more worth

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Speaker 2: your while. Thanks everyone who's been here for since the beginning,

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Speaker 2: which was sway nineteen technically, but twenty twenty one I

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Speaker 2: think is going to be certainly the biggest year for

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Speaker 2: growth of the years that we've been doing this, which

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Speaker 2: is a year and a half to this point. By

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Speaker 2: the way, like the original the original Showtime deal that

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Speaker 2: I signed was supposed to expire. I mean, they may

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Speaker 2: have renewed it, but it was supposed to expire at

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Speaker 2: the end of this year, so like it was for

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Speaker 2: a year and a half that I had signed in

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Speaker 2: that time, the deal got overwritten by virtue of the

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Speaker 2: CBS deal that I signed, but it was supposed to

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Speaker 2: have ended effect of January first. Pretty amazing how far

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Speaker 2: we've come, considering like what a gamble that was at

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Speaker 2: the time. Dude, those are big gamble. We didn't know

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Speaker 2: what was going to happen. But here we are.

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Speaker 1: We were playing with house money to a degree. You were,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe you gambled a little bit more on

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Speaker 1: your future. But it's become it's become the foundation of

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Speaker 1: what we both do professionally now.

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Speaker 2: Luke, Okay, this is certainly has been and for some

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Speaker 2: reason the CBS is asking me to write even though

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Speaker 2: it's not in my contract, which I find a little

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Speaker 2: bit annoying. But uh, okay, we'll figure that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you can work that out offline, Lucy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just want to I just want to send

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Speaker 2: a comment because I know they're going to see it,

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Speaker 2: and I want to be, you know, a little bit

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Speaker 2: mean about it, but that's okay, all right. If you

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Speaker 2: want to try Showtime, we certainly encourage that showtime dot

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01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:39,600
Speaker 2: com thirty day free trial. If you like it, you

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Speaker 2: can keep it. If not, you can go to something

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Speaker 2: else with your lack of spending money that you have

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01:42:44,160 --> 01:42:45,920
Speaker 2: not used, because it would be free for thirty days.

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01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:48,240
Speaker 2: If you want to get some merch, you can go

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Speaker 2: to store dot show that's s h O dot com.

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01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:55,400
Speaker 2: You can get hats, shirts, mugs, tumblers, the whole nine

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Speaker 2: yards over there. It's nice quality stuff. We appreciate anyone

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Speaker 2: who purchases it. And oh we are all over social

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Speaker 2: Morning Combat is consistent everywhere. It's this Morning Combat no

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Speaker 2: matter where you go, YouTube, Insta, Twitter, and then of

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Speaker 2: course you can see me and Brian. We're also on

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Speaker 2: Twitter and Insta, but our names are slightly different in

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Speaker 2: each of those places, so take a screenshot, do take

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Speaker 2: a note, but please give us a follow just the same.

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Speaker 2: We usually get stuff wrong, sometimes spectacularly so. And we

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Speaker 2: also want your artist renderings for the show. One place

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Speaker 2: to do that Morningcombat at gmail dot com. Even if

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Speaker 2: you want to reach the show no matter what. This

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Speaker 2: is your official place. Morning Coombat at gmail dot com

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Speaker 2: is where you want to say. It says some of

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Speaker 2: your questions, but that's less what we want you to

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Speaker 2: do because it's probably an old graphic that they didn't update.

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Speaker 2: Good job LOLCA. All right, BC, Well the year.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you one question for the road, Yes,

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Speaker 1: what will be the biggest fight MMA or boxing or

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Speaker 1: a mixture of both that you and I know cover

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Speaker 1: this year that we you know because that's what Morning

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Speaker 1: Combat does. It sets you up for the big fights

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Speaker 1: to come. It breaks them down and recaps them. What

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Speaker 1: will be the biggest fight of.

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty one that we are on location for?

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, just in general, Just in general. That's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a big part of our programming. Don't tell

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Speaker 1: me it's going to be Floyd Logan, Paul, don't tell

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Speaker 1: me no. Will it be like Connor versus someone for the.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be It's going to be Connor.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Connor versus Manny Pakia in a boxing.

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Speaker 2: Ring something like that. Yeah, dude, it's gonna.

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Speaker 1: Be Connor versus Joshua Connor.

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Speaker 2: Was like not forgotten in twenty twenty one. He's too

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Speaker 2: big to be forgotten. But he didn't are twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, but he didn't have the year that he wanted,

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Speaker 2: like not even close. And I think he's itching to

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Speaker 2: have that year this year. So I think we're gonna

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Speaker 2: get a lot of Connor for better or for worse.

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Speaker 1: All Right, the schmoe breaking some UFC news the other day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Dana loves talking to people, you know, just

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Speaker 2: not people who ask questions about him in a way

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Speaker 2: he doesn't like. I guess I don't know. Uh. He

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Speaker 2: one time was booked on my show that you U

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Speaker 2: see booked in my show, and then like the day

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Speaker 2: of he canceled last minute. I was like, huh, I

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Speaker 2: wonder what that's all about.

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Speaker 1: All right, wait wait this was Dana White. Yeah yeah

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Speaker 1: when was this?

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Speaker 2: This is like three months before my serious XMM show

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Speaker 2: came to an end, so recently.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think I might have joined you there, Luke

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Speaker 1: on that side of the fence.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, well it's a good side to be, trust me.

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Speaker 1: Public ane me number one okay, Yeah, they love you.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: This is the face looking to bring down to mixed

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Speaker 1: martial arts for the face started in Japan and now

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it down in the States too. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's really an inside job for boxing to return to

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Speaker 1: prominence where it belongs.

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Speaker 2: That's what one of combat's all about, is ruining combat sports.

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Speaker 2: You understand that, all right. So for Malka, for Jay

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Speaker 2: who is in Abstentia for showtime, and everybody else involved.

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Speaker 2: That's Brian Campbell, I'm Luke Thomas. We're from CBS Sports.

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Speaker 2: Until next time, may all of your gains be loyal.