1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: you a Charlotte. This is a very very very exciting time, 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: you guys, because today we have an incredible I call 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: Arna Parker. 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: With a here are you as Charlotte? And we may cry. 6 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just going to tell you right now ocause 7 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: it might cry. Yes, because what happened was this. I 8 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: was at camp with my kids last week in Oregon, 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: h and I did know that our announcement was coming. 10 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: We had a little bit, a little bit of notice, yes, 11 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 1: and we hadn't all talked about it. 12 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: And I was in Oregon, and I thought, I need 13 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,319 Speaker 2: to call Nicole because I'll feel like you're my You're 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: my person. 15 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: You know. 16 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 2: And I was worried. 17 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: We had already scheduled this, and I didn't know if 18 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: you would want to come talk, if. 19 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: It would be too soon. 20 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: You know. 21 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: I just wanted to think about your feelings. 22 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: And so I tried to call you, and I thought 23 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: it was okay. So I went to the car to 24 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: call Nicole because I was at this camp full of 25 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: people and I was, you know, not, I don't know 26 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: these people, right, So I went to the camp at 27 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: the car and I called her, but I couldn't talk. 28 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: I thought I was fine, and then I just I 29 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: couldn't talk. So I was like, and so either the 30 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 1: voicemail didn't record this is what I'm hoping, or a 31 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: different Nicole from my past might have a sobbing, sobbing 32 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: phone call. I'm not sure which, because when I saw 33 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: the cold today, I said, I'm so sorry I left 34 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: you that message because then I. 35 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 3: Felt what message? Well, and she said what message? 36 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: So she didn't get it. 37 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 3: You guys get one single. 38 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: It was literally like an ugly cry sobbing situation because 39 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: you know, the feelings aren't really together yet. 40 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: I don't know how you're feeling. 41 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 3: Well, you know, I I got very attached to you 42 00:01:56,160 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 3: and to the show, and we were just getting started, 43 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 3: you and I and everything, and I just feel at 44 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 3: the same time grateful and sad because you're legendary and 45 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 3: the show was legendary, and I'm just grateful I got 46 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 3: to be a part of it and get to know you. 47 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you, for me were like the bright 48 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: light that came. 49 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: I mean, all of us have been together for so 50 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: long as you know, most of us, and then we 51 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: got you and Serena and do you remember our first 52 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: day of work? I do, because it was the first 53 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: day being back. Nicole had to come into Charlotte's apartment. 54 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: I was the first one up when we came back 55 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: after COVID obviously hadn't been together. So the thing that 56 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: is the silver lining to this whole thing is that 57 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: as much as the show is ending, they say, I'm 58 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: trying to believe them, I can't. I don't feel it 59 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: in my gut, but this is what they tell me, 60 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: So I'm trying to get with it. As you guys know, 61 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: this is obviously I never think it's over right. 62 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 2: This is just who I am. 63 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: But I'm trying. I'm trying. I'm trying to believe it. 64 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: But we're all still in each other's lives. So as 65 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: much as it's ending, like sometimes people say, oh, what 66 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: was it like to be all back together? Well, it's 67 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: of course unique with when you're on a set. You know, 68 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: it's a different situation on a set. 69 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 2: But it's not like I hadn't seen everybody, you know. 70 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: Of course I see everybody in different ways in different places, 71 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: not all together probably you know what I mean, or 72 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: not for eighteen hours, right, you know in heels, right, 73 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: in very high heels. But it and of course the 74 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: thing that I'm mostly I mean, I don't even know 75 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: what I'm mostly sad about, but the newness of having 76 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: you and so Rita join us and other people too, obviously, 77 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: but like substantially you and so Rita brought so much 78 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: and you just as an actress. 79 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I have so many different. 80 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: Memories, you know, if you havn't do really hard things 81 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: like remember that time we went down to that crazy 82 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: place downtown and you have to tell me that you 83 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: might be pregnant and you might not and you don't know. 84 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: And you've got your documentary do you remember this? 85 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: Yes, it's in the aisles of the high end grocery items. 86 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 3: Oh my, that's right. That was hard, man, that was 87 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 3: so hard. 88 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: And you nailed it. 89 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 2: But you never think you nail it. 90 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: Such a glorious. 91 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 3: Because I you know, I need to tell the viewers 92 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 3: that the show that you love that I was blessed 93 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 3: enough to be a part of, though that writing is 94 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 3: pure drama that has to turn on a dime. Yeah, 95 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, I I could do stuff, but 96 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 3: this is a whole other beast. It's hard. It's hard, yeah, 97 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 3: and you guys have nailed it and cemented that lovely 98 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 3: frequency in stone and so, I mean, I remember the 99 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 3: first scene I shot. That was kind of but it 100 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 3: was the group scene, the lunch. Oh yeah, that was 101 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 3: my first day of my first feeling for you. 102 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: I felt for you, and I was. 103 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 3: Always a fan of the show, and I knew the 104 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 3: scope of your you know, the show's global phenomenon, you know. 105 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 3: And I'm standing and I'm getting touched up, and I'm 106 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 3: getting my wardrobe fidgeted with and secured. I'm wearing clothes 107 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 3: I don't even know how to say the names of 108 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 3: the designers I'm wearing. And we were shooting at the Whitney. Yes, 109 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 3: we were shooting at the Whitney with all the glass, 110 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 3: you know, clear glass windows, and I'm standing kind of away, 111 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 3: but but you three are at the table and the 112 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 3: people outside slowly realized through the glass what's happening. So 113 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 3: I turn around after getting makeup touched and there's massive, 114 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 3: massive amounts of people out and I'm like, today is today, 115 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 3: Welcome to the world of Sex and the City. They 116 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 3: were so excited to see you guys. 117 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 2: Oh that was sweet. 118 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: That was a good day. The thing that I remember 119 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: the most about that day. I had forgotten that day 120 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: for your part, and I had. 121 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 3: To ask you, guys, if I in the scene. I 122 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 3: had to ask if I could have a friendship day. 123 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 2: I know. 124 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 3: I was like, this can't be. I know, I know. 125 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: And my scene was that monologue about you, because I'm 126 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: basically telling the girls who you are before you enter, 127 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: and it's very long. It's like your credentials basically, right, 128 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: and they film and Sarah first over my shoulder. So 129 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: I've been doing this very very lengthy monologue for maybe 130 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: four hours, and then they turn around on me and 131 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: Michael Patrick says, you know, I need more energy, and 132 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, because also like it's kind 133 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,679 Speaker 1: of like you're building your legs back up, like because 134 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:01,239 Speaker 1: this particular job is so hard in terms of the dialogue. 135 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: In terms of the shoes, in terms of. 136 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: The stamina, and then and just like that, we often 137 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: go to work at four thirty in the morning for 138 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: whatever reason because we're in daylight. 139 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: So you're tired, you know. 140 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: And I've got that long monologue and Michael Patrick's like, 141 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: I need more energy, and I'm like, okay, you know, 142 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: what I'm trying to do more energy and then he's like, 143 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: I don't see it in your eyes. I'm like, well, 144 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: Michael Patrick, you might have seen it in my eyes 145 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: like six hours ago, of course, because it was you, 146 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: and I wanted I wanted. I mean, I'm introducing the 147 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: viewer to you as well as right, Carrie, Miranda, right, 148 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: So I wanted it to be and I hope I 149 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: hold it off. 150 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 151 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 3: She Now, I do remember you in. 152 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: Those outfits and they were like so like out of 153 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: the box, you know, like nothing else. 154 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 3: And I had to be I had to act like, oh, 155 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 3: this is normal, and. 156 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 2: How did you feel about that? 157 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: Well? I was. 158 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 3: I'm naturally a bit traumatic. So I can handle a caftan, 159 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 3: oh man whoever, giant necklace and two purses at the 160 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 3: same time because Molly would always give me a second bag. 161 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 2: I know, because she could never she had too much. 162 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: It was like an abundance of breeches. 163 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 3: I know. And so I felt great in the clothes. 164 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 3: It was more about you guys that I just was 165 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 3: so starstruck. You could say, oh, you have grown up. 166 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, for me. 167 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: One of my other really funny memories, which was more 168 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: recent when we bet went back to do this third season. 169 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 2: Our day in the park where we go to. 170 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: The baseball I don't know if that I feel like 171 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: that was my first day in the park. And you 172 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: have the longest, most beautiful legs ever created on a 173 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 1: human being, and I really really do not And I'm 174 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: wearing a pencil skirt, of course, with some kind of 175 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: lunatic high shoes, and we're trying to get over those 176 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: rickety bleachers and you reach back to take my hand, 177 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: which was so sweet. But you're moving at gazelle speed 178 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: and I'm moving at like I don't know. 179 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 2: Chihuahuas. 180 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 3: Please, there's something I don't know that I'm not I'm 181 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 3: not capable of keeping. 182 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: Up with you. 183 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: Oh my god, the stress, the stress. 184 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm going to rip the skirt in 185 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: ways that I'm not going to be interted. 186 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 2: You're so sweet, but. 187 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: This is how you feel the whole job, whether you've 188 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: been doing it, yes, one month or thirty years. 189 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 3: I really loved our scenes at the kids' school. 190 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Yes, the arbor. 191 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 3: School, Yes. And I just felt like and we had 192 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 3: insane props, bags and big bags, big bags, and always 193 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 3: some drama, always some drama. 194 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: I think I had to call Cynthia at one point 195 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: this season. I think I've talked about it on the 196 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: podcast because I we sometimes collaborate posts on Instagram, but 197 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: she has different followers than I have, you know, her fans, 198 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: my hands whatever, and her fans at one point took 199 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: me apart of one of our early episodes that I 200 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: was over the top and wacky, and I think it 201 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: might have been the one we're talking about, the college 202 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: prep episode. Yes, yes, And I had to call Cynthia 203 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: because I was like, well, I don't understand what was happening. 204 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 2: What's happening? 205 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: And I mean, this is how I feel a lot 206 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: in today's world. And she said, first of all, you 207 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: were absolutely doing the part that you were written. You 208 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: guys are Lucy at Ethel and you are supposed to 209 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: be You're supposed to lean into that because we know 210 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: where your storyline's are going for both of you, and 211 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: this was a setup for that. Because that's how Michael 212 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: Patrick thinks, that's how all of our writers think. They 213 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: have a long game, and not every episode it's going 214 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: to be clear what that long game is. You were 215 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: going to go to a deeper place. I was going 216 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: to go to a deeper place for my place. A 217 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: lot of it was rethinking what's important. And Charlotte's always 218 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: been the type of character where I get sucked into 219 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: the details, you know, the. 220 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 2: How do things look? How do things seem? 221 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: Are we doing everything we could possibly do? You know, 222 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: like that's a very Charlotte or kind of an idea. 223 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: And so in those episodes that you know, I'm I'm 224 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 1: stressing over, you know, will Lily. 225 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 2: Go to college? 226 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: Will it be the best college? This is a very 227 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: real and relatable. You have grown kids, you've probably. 228 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:12,599 Speaker 2: Been through this. 229 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, twenty Yeah. 230 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: It's incredible that you do that, but that you're there, 231 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: it's like amazing. 232 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 2: We'll get to that a second. 233 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 1: But anyway, I had to call something to get a 234 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: little pep talk to say, no, you guys are Lucy 235 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: and Ethel right now in the show, and that is 236 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: what was written and that is what you're. 237 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 2: Supposed to do. 238 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: And you cannot do Lucy and Ethel without. 239 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 2: Leaning into it. That's right, right, Yeah, And I just 240 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 2: want to thank. 241 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: You for being there with me, who are just the 242 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: best partner. I could have. 243 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 3: So much fun. I know, and it's hard. Some days 244 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 3: are easier, but for the most part it's hard. It 245 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 3: is hard, and you know, most people are like, what 246 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 3: are you doing next? I'm like, can I just process 247 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 3: this for a minute. 248 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 2: So it's a lot. 249 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: And Nicole just moved to New York, Yes, with her 250 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: beautiful husband, Boris, who we must talk about. 251 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, so like, how are you, how are you. 252 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 2: Feeling, how's Boris feeling? How's the family? 253 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 3: Well? I was, I'm from Baltimore and I'm I went 254 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 3: to NYU. I lived here for thirteen years, then I 255 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 3: got soul Food, where I met Boris. In two thousand 256 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 3: and we moved to LA and we were in Atlanta 257 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 3: for a minute, and then we moved to LA. And 258 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 3: but I was always a New Yorker. I was always 259 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 3: an East Coast girl. I'm a city kid. And so 260 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 3: it was so obvious, like my family was so exhausted 261 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 3: by me. They would be like, we know, mommy, you 262 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 3: want to live in New York theater and me your 263 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 3: friends and be a pedestrian, so ella, you gotta drive, 264 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 3: like they gave me the monologue almost like every week. 265 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 2: Wow. 266 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 3: And then one day this year Boris came in the bathroom. 267 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 3: I was brushing my teeth or something, and he goes, 268 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 3: you want to move It's time. Wow. But I had 269 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 3: to act very cool because I didn't know if I 270 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 3: my excitement was gonna like make him backspace, backpedal, I 271 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 3: don't know. So I was like, are you sure? 272 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 2: Wow? 273 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 3: Really I was very gentle. But we put our house 274 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 3: on the market, and I just you know, yes, the 275 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 3: show shoots here and I had an apartment here, but 276 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 3: I was doing it for my soul. Really, just not 277 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 3: even work, Like I just wanted this chapter of my 278 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 3: life to be in the city and or in New York. 279 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,119 Speaker 3: I mean, we found a house. I had to compromise 280 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 3: because I like the concrete jungle. But Boris is from 281 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 3: the Black Forest. He's from the woods, and so if 282 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 3: we were going to move to the East Coast, he 283 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 3: needed city adjacent. Hated trees. Yeah, we're right on the 284 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 3: Hudson River. Trees. It's beautiful. 285 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 2: And the dogs are thrilled. 286 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 3: The dogs are like, finally we're dogs like chasing squirrels. 287 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: Love it, yeah, love it, love. 288 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 2: It, love it. 289 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 3: They were very happy. 290 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: So it is feeding your soul in the way they gets. 291 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 3: Feeding my soul. Although like Chris Jackson, who lives up 292 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 3: there too. I would have made the forty five minute 293 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 3: trek to work every day. Wow, to be with you guys. 294 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, now, let's just talk about Chris Jackson for a second. 295 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to have to find a way to have 296 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: him on the podcast even though he was never in 297 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: Sexas City, but neither were you. But I can do 298 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: whatever I want, right, it's my podcast. Chris Jackson played 299 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: Nicole's husband as I hope you guys know, and just 300 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: like that, and he's an incredible actor. He was the 301 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: original George Washington in Hamilton, which my kids are like 302 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: fully obsessed with him. 303 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 3: Now everyone is obsessed with him, I know, but they. 304 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: Didn't know when they first came to set. They hadn't 305 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: had their Hamilton discovery moment. And now they're just in disbelief, like, Mommy, 306 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: you got to work with him. I'm like, yeah, I'm 307 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: pretty sure you guys met him, but he wasn't dressed. 308 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 2: He just didn't realize, you know what I mean. 309 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: So it's all very funny now, But you know what 310 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: a dream team you guys. I mean in my mind, 311 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say this. I don't know if it 312 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: can happen. I guess it probably can't, but like I 313 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: want to see your show. Oh wouldn't it be amazing. 314 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 3: I don't know how to make that happen. 315 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: But your whole family's existence I love so much. Wow, 316 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: everything about it, all of your children, when you guys 317 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: get dressed to go to the funeral of your father's character. 318 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 2: Just it's a whole world that I want to be in. 319 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 3: I was just talking about this and that the show, 320 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 3: the writer's Mpka really did a great job in that. 321 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 3: You know, they didn't slap spaghetti on the wall, they 322 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 3: didn't make the Black Family cookie cutter. They really fleshed 323 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 3: out everything, like you know, the art on the walls, 324 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 3: the coffee cups I drank out of, and you know, 325 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 3: you guys made Karen Pittman's character reel and my character 326 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 3: reel in a way that I was just I was 327 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 3: proud to be a part of, you know. And so 328 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 3: uh yeah, I don't know. You never know, you. 329 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 2: Never know anything, Yeah, right, you never know anything. 330 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 3: I'd have Billy d Williams play my father, I mean, 331 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 3: what a dream and Jennifer Lewis, Jennifer. 332 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: Lewis, it was incredible. 333 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 3: It's incredible. Yeah. 334 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. And also that was Susan you know, that was 335 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: Susan fails Hill who really had had those inspirations and 336 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: basically wrote that part for Jennifer Lewis and made it happen. 337 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 2: You know, she's the engine made. 338 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 3: Remember the table read. Oh my god, she threw down, 339 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 3: Like the whole house was like what Oh it was 340 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 3: incredible at the table I know. I wish people could 341 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 3: see them. 342 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: I agree, because they are a very old school thing. 343 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 2: They still do that. 344 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: Michael comes from that, you know, old old school sitcom 345 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: world where the table read was very important and if 346 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: if jokes didn't hit, they would get cut, which I 347 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: kept trying to explain to my pretend children, like please 348 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: act at the table read. 349 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 3: Because I want you to bring it, yes, say, but. 350 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: Their kids, and they don't. They're trying to be real 351 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: or whatever or quiet. I don't know what they were 352 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: trying to do subtle, but my mommy self was. 353 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 2: Like, guys, get louder, you know, hit it, hit it. 354 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: But because back in the olden days, as is kind 355 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 1: of obvious when you watch the old episodes. Mostly I 356 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: am just wowed by the old episodes because I never 357 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: rewatched till now, which is part of the fun of 358 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: the podcast. I would watch once when it would right 359 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: before we to air, they would give us a VHS 360 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: and then I hadn't watched in many years. There's a storyline, B, storyline, 361 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 1: C storylin D storyline D storyline. You probably don't get 362 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 1: much because there's just not time. 363 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 2: They're twenty two minutes. 364 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: Right, So if you went to that read through and 365 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: didn't give it your all, you were probably on the 366 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: timing block. Yeah, or maybe they filmed it and then 367 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: it might get cut if it wasn't strong enough, But 368 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: most of the time they would not. 369 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 3: They would gauge it from the table read. Does this work? 370 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 3: Is it not landing? All that? 371 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 2: Right? 372 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 3: I remember the table reads being so powerful that I cried. 373 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 3: Oh me too. I would cry at the table read 374 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 3: while eating my little finger sandwich like yeah it was 375 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 3: rough sometimes, yeah, yeah, yeah, such good actors, I know. 376 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. And also the funny thing is that in the 377 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: olden days we were in a room like this size, 378 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: but do you remember how big our tables done? 379 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 3: Really lovely finger sandwiches? Sixty people. I was like, can 380 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 3: I take some of this home? Definitely? But also like 381 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 3: you're like at a theater. 382 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: I just like a theater performance in a weird way, 383 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: in a circle. 384 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, circular theater performance. I know, it's crazy to think about. 385 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 3: And everyone always asks me, what is Kristin? Like for real, 386 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 3: but what is esj What is Cynthia? 387 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 2: What do you say? 388 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 3: And I'm like, she is everything. She's so beautiful inside 389 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 3: and out, so funny, so sincere, and like one of 390 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 3: the through lines of the things I would I would 391 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 3: really feel about you three was that these are real women. 392 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 3: They have full lives, They don't have their head in 393 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 3: the sand. They know what's going on in the world. 394 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 3: They are humans to the fullest. Thank you, And I 395 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 3: was just I just fell in love even more thank you. 396 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I do think that's true. It's like 397 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 2: when you have had this. 398 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 1: Kind of weird level of success, which of course we're 399 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: so thankful for, but people really do think that we're 400 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: our characters and we're really not. 401 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 3: You know, do you think that? Yeah? I know it. 402 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 3: I mean we kind of are, but we kind of aren't. Like, 403 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 3: I mean weird, since the characters you know of your 404 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 3: real persons are there, but the facts of your real 405 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 3: life are so grounded and human and actual like lifing 406 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 3: is happening. 407 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: I think is happening, and that you fit right in obviously, 408 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 1: which is such a joy. But the funny thing too, 409 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: is like I've been on other sets back in the 410 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: day before we started, and it's not that those people 411 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: weren't real or weren't grounded, but like the things that 412 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: they would talk about at work would be like shopping 413 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: or golf, you know what I'm trying to say, working out, 414 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: like very active. 415 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 3: Like you said, we had to become a family really fast. Yeah, 416 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 3: and just what I loved about, you know, people talk 417 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 3: about being a grown up. It's like I love that 418 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 3: we're grown me too, know, like maybe when I was twenty, 419 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 3: I would have talked to you about what eyeshadow you 420 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 3: were wearing, But like we kind of do still talk 421 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 3: about I. 422 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: Mean, we might have that moment of the day, right, 423 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: you might have it today totally you are as you 424 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: were killing a baby. 425 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 3: So I was like, you don't understand. We have real 426 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 3: conversations about what's going on in the world, our kids, yeah, 427 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 3: our life, you know. Yeah, And it was very fulfilling 428 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 3: on screen and off. Oh yeah, that makes me so happy. 429 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: And that's the thing, like your post that you posted 430 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: was so sweet, and so many like Alexander Bellow, like 431 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: so many people have posted, and it is so deeply 432 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: satisfying to know that we did create a place where 433 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: people felt happy and welcome, because that is so important 434 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: to us, and so important to us when we were reconvening, 435 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: because we knew we wanted to expand the show, and 436 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: we knew that we needed to make it a place 437 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 1: for people to be who were new, and we knew 438 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: that was intimidating and weird to come into a show 439 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: that you've already watched, you know, like, yes, where would 440 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: you rank that in terms of like on your mind 441 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: when you came do you know what I'm saying? Like 442 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: it was a different show obviously, but yet kind of similar. 443 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 3: I was excited got it, you know, it was it 444 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 3: was half professional, half fangirl. That's good, you know, Like 445 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 3: I wanted to calm do my best. Yes, I felt 446 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 3: lucky and honored to be a part of it. But 447 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 3: I was also the first couple of episodes just a 448 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 3: little starstruck, you know. And I'm a grown up, seasoned 449 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 3: actor and I was still a little like, oh my god. 450 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 2: You didn't see it? You didn't seemen at all. You 451 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 2: were fun. You were fun right away, you know, as 452 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: was so Rita. 453 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 3: But the two of you are. 454 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 2: Like so chill, you know what I mean, you really are, 455 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 2: Like I felt like it was just seamless. 456 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 3: Wow, I did. 457 00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 2: I really did? I mean I did? I did? 458 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: You know, obviously the whole whole costume situation. 459 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: I was like, wow, whoa, what on earth? Oh my gosh, 460 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 2: she can pull this off? 461 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 1: And whoa, it's incredible. But you were just like a breeze, 462 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: you know, like the Valentino moment. I mean like they 463 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: showed me when the head piece arrived at. 464 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 3: Costume remember that day. Yeah, I was like, I was like, 465 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 3: people in the back, it is a full crate, a 466 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 3: full crate of this incredible. 467 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys have seen the image, but if not, 468 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: we'll put it on the social media. It's an incredible 469 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: headpiece that covered her face. 470 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 2: Okay. I was like, what it was. 471 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 3: Like silence of the lambs under there? Yeah, like full 472 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 3: the Philip trecy made. It was on the the you know, 473 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 3: in Rome, the fashion show in Rome. It was just premiered, right. 474 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 3: I was so scared. 475 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: I was like, don't mean nicole wear this, but did 476 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: you not only wear it, you like run down Fifth 477 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: Avenue in that thing. I mean, it was incredible. We 478 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: could not have cast you better ever, and our wildest dream. 479 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 2: You're just a dream Nicole, you really are. 480 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 3: I think it took like fifty years for me to 481 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 3: be who I was when I was like a little girl. 482 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 3: You know, my mom had bracelets and scars in the 483 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:23,199 Speaker 3: seventies and Diana Ross in mahogany outfits, and so I 484 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 3: would play in those clothes. But I also went to 485 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 3: a private school, so I wore uniforms my whole life, 486 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 3: like second to twelfth grade. And so here I was 487 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 3: as an adult, and so I played lawyers and I 488 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 3: was very cool together and I was like finally, oh 489 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 3: you know, I love it. 490 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: Oh there's no better place to play in our world. Yeah, 491 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: as the others. 492 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 3: Had, and you know the wardrobe also, Molly and Danny, 493 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 3: they did a lot of kind of feeling research, like 494 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 3: what they wanted to feel like, So the funerals, see 495 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 3: for example that you know it was Coreta Scott King 496 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 3: and Jackie o at their husband's funeral, doctor King's funeral, 497 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 3: and they really knew the historic power and a lot 498 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 3: of the clothes that I was wearing absolutely and were 499 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 3: very intentional about that, absolutely, and that just made me 500 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 3: even more comfortable. So when she had to be two bags, 501 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 3: I was like, I trust you, girl. I know Cleo 502 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 3: Patrick must have done. 503 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: This absolutely absolutely, and yes you should play. 504 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 2: Oh my god, what a great idea. We're never TD. 505 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 2: I know. 506 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 3: The creativity just starts to bowl. 507 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: I know. I love it all right, is there anything 508 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: else you want to talk about before we move on? 509 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: It's fun. 510 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 2: It's so much fun. You're just so easy and joyful. 511 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 2: I feel like you have just so much joy in 512 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 2: everything you do. 513 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:53,959 Speaker 3: Thank you. 514 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: I really do remember when we were running around doing. 515 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 1: That press, you just had so much joys. 516 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 3: I was exhausted like you were. Yeah, it was People 517 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 3: don't realize. It was like forty seven interviews in one day, and. 518 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 2: Like every four minutes, every four minutes, four minutes. 519 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 3: It's hard and in heels and lashes, and I would 520 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 3: look over at you and just be like, she's amazing. 521 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 2: And that's what I thought about you. You're amazing and 522 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 2: so incredibly chic. 523 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 3: Thank you. And for people who don't know, like it 524 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 3: takes a lot for Kristen to say that's enough, And 525 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 3: this girl would be like beat down, cannot even say 526 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 3: another word before she would say, can I just get 527 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 3: a glass of water? Just give me a minute? 528 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: That's true too. Every once in a while, I do 529 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 1: you have to remind myself that it's. 530 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 2: Okay, yes, ask for a break. 531 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, because I think we're both really good 532 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: girls as much as we're also grown women. 533 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 2: Yes, And I love that about you. 534 00:26:58,440 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: And I feel like that also was like kind of 535 00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: a really special meeting place for LTW and Charlotte, you know, 536 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: like we had that kind of similar DNA. 537 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, at the same time, we have to. 538 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: Be there for each other, Like it's okay to say 539 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: it's hard to climb these rafters or whatever the heck, Yeah, you. 540 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 2: Know what I mean. 541 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: It's okay to say that when you're getting up in 542 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: your extremely structured couture skirt at the funeral after sitting 543 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 1: on it for five hours or whatever it was, that 544 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 1: can we have a moment to fix ourselves? 545 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 3: Yes, you know what I mean. And you would just 546 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 3: get a little bite of a sandwich, can I be like, 547 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 3: what do you do? You would get your lash fixed? 548 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 3: Be like okay, now I'm ready. 549 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 2: It's so true. 550 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: It's true. 551 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 2: It's such an interesting thing. 552 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: And I think it's an interesting thing about being a 553 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 1: woman where you just feel like you're supposed to be 554 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: all put together at all times, no matter what you know, 555 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: and and that it's okay not to be you know. Yeah, 556 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: And I also think this. I saw this other thing 557 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 1: and I wanted to ask you your thoughts on it. 558 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: I was looking at the press about the end of 559 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: the show, which is quite interesting. 560 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 2: I know, right, so interesting, so. 561 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: Interesting, and I'm collecting some ideas of how to talk 562 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: about it on the podcast. 563 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:11,959 Speaker 2: Maybe some I have some experts on. 564 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: Someone wrote in The Atlantic a really interesting article about 565 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: the lack of true dialogue in our social media kind 566 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 1: of world that is more just like shouting at each 567 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: other and not actually deeply looking at something, which is interesting. 568 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: And also there's interesting thoughts and ideas about the parasocial 569 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 1: relationship that people have with actors and celebrities and the 570 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: projections and the amount of projection and kind of losing 571 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: the limits of you know. 572 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 3: And the safety of being able to project and have 573 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 3: no reciprocation. I can just throw right tomato sauce on 574 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 3: these people, right, whatever. 575 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: I'm feeling that day, right, because it literally took hours 576 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: of us saying that the show is ending for people 577 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: to be writing love letters to it, the people who 578 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: had previously been very angry or whatever perceived misstep we 579 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: had made in their mind or whatever. 580 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 2: It was really amazing. 581 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: So when I'm looking through the list of all the 582 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: different articles, I see this one and it says the 583 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: erasure of Charlotte Yorke And. 584 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, wait, what who who erased me? 585 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 3: What? 586 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 2: What? What? What? 587 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 3: What? 588 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: And I read the article and it was by kind 589 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: of a fashion magazine or digital magazine, I think, and 590 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: it basically said number one that when I started, this 591 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: is almost thirty years ago. When I started, I had 592 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: frills in my clothing and where were they? 593 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 2: Okay, that's thirty years ago. Do we not want to 594 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 2: change and grow a little bit? 595 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: Like Charlotte has stayed pretty. 596 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 2: True to her fashion sense, what is thirty years later. 597 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: I don't really think I need any more frills that 598 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: I already have. 599 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 3: People I have traverse the frill landscape right thoroughly right, And. 600 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: If I were wearing frills, I think they'd be complaining 601 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: about that. And then the second thing they complained about 602 00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: in this article involves you, which is why I wanted 603 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on it. Remember the scene where 604 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: we're walking, it was one of the last ones we filmed. 605 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: We're walking and talking about your flirtation at work. You're 606 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: flirting and you're kind of telling me about it because 607 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: you can't really talk about it. You're feeling a lot 608 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: of guilt even though you've done nothing with your flirtation 609 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: at work. But you're feeling bad because you have a 610 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: great marriage, right and you obviously your marriage is incredibly 611 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: important to you, and so you're talking to your friend 612 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: about your You know, I feel so uncomfortable about these 613 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: thoughts and dreams that I had. I think you had 614 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: a dream, right, So and I say something to you, like, 615 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: you know, you have a connection at work, and isn't 616 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: this what we want? 617 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 2: You're in a creative job and you have a creative 618 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 2: connection at work. 619 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: So the person writing this article was all upset. You know, 620 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: Charlotte Yorke would never say that. Charlotte Yorke would look 621 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: down on that. Charlotte Yorke would not be supporting that. 622 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: That's not Charlotte Yorke, right, like, very adamant and to me, 623 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: I think that's insane, because why wouldn't there be some 624 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: growth in Charlotte that she would be less judgmental than 625 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: she might have been thirty years ago. And also, you're 626 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: coming to me for you know, like reassurance and compassion 627 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: and empathy, not judgment. 628 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 2: Why would I judge you? 629 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: You're not going to do anything, and I know you're 630 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,959 Speaker 1: not going to do anything, So I'm trying to make 631 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: you feel better about your own thoughts. 632 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 2: Could you already feel so bad? 633 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, I thought that that was such good writing 634 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 3: because it showed that, like exactly what you said, that 635 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 3: these two women are actual friends in the sense that 636 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 3: they really care about the choices they're about to make. 637 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 3: And then for you to say that was kind of 638 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 3: like honoring the morality of Charlotte by putting this attraction 639 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 3: in perspective like this is just a creative space that 640 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 3: gets the feelings going, but it's just a creative space. 641 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 3: I thought that was like the most wholesome thing you 642 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 3: could say to your friend and bring all of that 643 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 3: fire down in your friend and don't ruin your marriage right, 644 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,719 Speaker 3: and don't overblow it right, and just isn't that crazy? 645 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 3: It's crazy? But I think when I hear that, you know, 646 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 3: I think it was more about the writer, right that, Right, that. 647 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: Doesn't seem like that at the time clickbait headline the 648 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: erasure of Charlotte Yorke And then you actually read it 649 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh what, I don't agree with anything. 650 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,239 Speaker 1: This person is saying, no offense to you, whoever you are. 651 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: I don't remember your name, but it just goes to 652 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: show that, like I feel like we're in the craziest time. 653 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: I know, behave myself behaved, Christen, it's a crazy time. 654 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: It's really just what I want to say, where like 655 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: it's like the forest or lost for the trees or 656 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: whatever that phrase is. 657 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 2: Yes, you can't see the forest for the tree. 658 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 3: You can't see the forest for there. 659 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 2: I feel like it's like that, do you know what 660 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 2: I mean? 661 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: Like the nit picking, nit picking, nip picking where you 662 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: don't even know the whole what's coming. 663 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 3: It reminds me of all of the family in a way. 664 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 3: Archie Bunker was representing a voice and they let him 665 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 3: say those things on the show, and then when the 666 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 3: Jeffersons were their neighbors before they had their spin off, 667 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 3: and every now and then Archie Bunker would have a 668 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 3: moment of kindness or clarity or open to thoughts, and 669 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 3: I read somewhere that people would get outraged that he 670 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 3: still wasn't like bam bam bam. And but what as 671 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 3: a kid watching that, I was like, I was warmed 672 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 3: by those moments, the complexity and the complexity of even 673 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 3: if my young brain couldn't process it, I was like, oh, right, 674 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 3: that's the right thing to say, you know, and childlike mine. 675 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 3: And that's how I felt about that scene. 676 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 677 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 3: And you know what a wonderful thing though that people 678 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 3: responded to that we didn't even realize was our scene 679 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 3: in the pool. Oh. I got hundreds and hundreds of 680 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 3: comments about every aspect of that scene, the silence between us, 681 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 3: the the fact, I mean people saw our race in 682 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 3: that scene, and that how simple two women can be friends, 683 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 3: and that all the differences in them, yeah don't matter 684 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 3: when friends are friends. Yeah, I got just expose A's 685 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 3: on it. 686 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 2: Amazing And it was just see that we. 687 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 3: Both were like, don't fill my butt totally and I'm 688 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 3: bathing it's a hundred up to our neck exactly. 689 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: That's beautiful. 690 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 3: Well, that's the power. 691 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: That's the power of film, I think, you know, and 692 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: sometimes we forget about the power and the little things. 693 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: That's that's really well put and I'm glad that you 694 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: got that. And I also it just gives me faith 695 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: in the human race, you know, that they. 696 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 2: Can see good things, you know, right, Yeah 697 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: You guys, this is so much fun that we're going 698 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: to have to have a part two, so join us 699 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: later in the week on are You a Charlotte